Hoi4 Alternate History: What if Germany Focused on Africa in WW2?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
  • The Germans knew that oil would be crucial to the war and that they would likely need to capture new sources for the war effort.
    The main oil-producing regions at the time that might be captured were the Caucasus region of southern Russia and the Middle East.
    The Germans committed hundreds of divisions in their attempts to take the Russian oil but mere fractions of this to the African front, which was less well defended. But what if they did?
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  • @AlienCookie360
    @AlienCookie360 Месяц назад +1160

    The Japanese emperor didn't want a war with America, so maybe something covering if the Emperor had more power and influence over the government

    • @Talking_Ben_nr_1
      @Talking_Ben_nr_1 Месяц назад +26

      He already did that one

    • @odin7024
      @odin7024 Месяц назад +42

      ​@@Talking_Ben_nr_1yes and no
      He did an want if Japan went north (soviet union) instead of south (allies)

    • @Talking_Ben_nr_1
      @Talking_Ben_nr_1 Месяц назад +12

      @@odin7024 but the vid (if this wins) will basicly be the same

    • @Njuregen
      @Njuregen Месяц назад +4

      Maybe means what if the Japanese stayed friendly with the USA and not attacked Russia either?

    • @Talking_Ben_nr_1
      @Talking_Ben_nr_1 Месяц назад +3

      @@Njuregen probably but isint that basicly what if Japan stayed neutral

  • @lampshadehitman6771
    @lampshadehitman6771 Месяц назад +486

    What if Hitler was overthrown in 1940-1942? (Operation Valkyrie or something similar with maybe rommel taking over)

    • @alfredovillalobos7481
      @alfredovillalobos7481 Месяц назад

      By whom? Pro-allied movements ? Pro-soviet movements? All the opposition to Hitler was immediatly sent to concentration camps. And most germans were brainwashed already into fascist ideas

    • @Irish_republican
      @Irish_republican Месяц назад +3

      This

    • @dvader2004
      @dvader2004 Месяц назад +1

      Don't think this is possible as if you would want to do this, you couldn't do any political focus till 1940

    • @glitchvlogs6597
      @glitchvlogs6597 Месяц назад +2

      I don't think this is really possible,

    • @lampshadehitman6771
      @lampshadehitman6771 Месяц назад

      @@glitchvlogs6597 worth a shot

  • @Defcon1OfficialYoutube-kn4lw
    @Defcon1OfficialYoutube-kn4lw Месяц назад +543

    What if the USA was actually neutral (doesn't send aid or lend-lease anywhere)

    • @Cotac_Rastic
      @Cotac_Rastic Месяц назад +21

      True isolationism lmao. Id argue it would have to be a republican victory in the first election at least.

    • @Blablatomatos
      @Blablatomatos Месяц назад +2

      this

    • @bradycollins
      @bradycollins Месяц назад

      @@Cotac_Rasticor communist.

    • @fletcherclausen4349
      @fletcherclausen4349 Месяц назад +13

      Really interesting scenario but I’m not sure how well Hoi4 would be able to simulate it. Arguably the most important thing American sent to our allies was food, with out which I think Britain being starved submission becomes very like. Russia was also highly dependent on US imports to make explosives
      Think Stakyui talked about this in a short before but I can’t find it

    • @Defcon1OfficialYoutube-kn4lw
      @Defcon1OfficialYoutube-kn4lw Месяц назад +1

      @@Blablatomatos Lol I put like 80 suggestions and this is the only 1 that stuck . . . . . .

  • @jacksondavis8940
    @jacksondavis8940 Месяц назад +722

    What if WW2 was a four way war (Axis, Allies, Comintern, Co-Prosperity Sphere)

    • @ODST_7773
      @ODST_7773 Месяц назад +7

      Yes

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen Месяц назад +13

      @@CatfoodChronicles6737 Japan was at war with the Soviet Union later in WW2.

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen Месяц назад

      @@CatfoodChronicles6737 Communist China might side with the Soviets. The Chinese Nationalists would most likely be on the side of the Western Allies.

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen Месяц назад

      ​@@CatfoodChronicles6737 The East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere was basically just Japan and a few puppet governments.

    • @alfredovillalobos7481
      @alfredovillalobos7481 Месяц назад +1

      Why would Japan declare on the Axis if they had a tripartite pact?

  • @darthgavel6766
    @darthgavel6766 Месяц назад +384

    What if India broke away from the British during WW2?

    • @icephoenix5466
      @icephoenix5466 Месяц назад +12

      fascist india would kinda be a thing, many volunteers also came from india for the axis

    • @arjunverma-2504
      @arjunverma-2504 Месяц назад +5

      Bose as leader maybe...

    • @The_Indo_Aryan
      @The_Indo_Aryan Месяц назад +3

      Bose and Savarkar as leaders.

    • @MahmudHasan-me9qe
      @MahmudHasan-me9qe Месяц назад +2

      ​@@The_Indo_Aryanwhy are we forgetting gandi and fazlul haq

  • @LeroyJenkins-qy7fr
    @LeroyJenkins-qy7fr Месяц назад +217

    What if Mexico went to war with America during WW1

    • @maxthetube8466
      @maxthetube8466 Месяц назад

      Nothing, they were in a civil war
      That’s just suicide
      Zimmerman telegram is interesting but also massively overrated and/or misunderstood

    • @alfredovillalobos7481
      @alfredovillalobos7481 Месяц назад +17

      They would’ve lost since Mexico just had their revolution. Overthrew Porfirio Diaz, then Madero got in power, 6 months into power he got double crossed and assassinated by military leader Huerra, then he got overthrown by revolutionaries (Pancho Villa, Venustiani Carranza & Emiliano Zapata) which then decided to go to war against eachother. And carranza ended up killing the other two to get all power to himself with aid from the United States.
      So, in what world would Carranza decide to go against USA, if the USA basically funded his movement to get him to power ? We would have to think further back to another president who would’ve been more likely to do so, like Diaz or Villa.
      Problem then is, mexico would probably go into civil war, so you’d need to find a president who is likely to go against USA desires AND can mantain stability in México. I can’t think if anyone alive during this time to do the job.
      So when Mexico declares and goes against USA, it would probably have more chances if it’s a surprise declaration and just moves in. Which would see some initial success since USA hadn’t mobilize. But would soon be pushed back to rio grande and into Mexico. Which would make Mexicans revolt and overthrow whoever was in power.

    • @LeroyJenkins-qy7fr
      @LeroyJenkins-qy7fr Месяц назад

      @@alfredovillalobos7481 yeah but it might have delayed the Americans arrival in Europe and they might have initially gained a small amount of land if they surprised America.

    • @johneisenberg7329
      @johneisenberg7329 8 дней назад

      Probably short term territory gains for Mexico at the start and delay US troop arrival into Europe possibly giving the Germans some more time for their major spring offensive and delay US support to Britian and France.
      Long term I would think the US could stabilize the front and push back Mexican forces from US territory and possibly into a counter-invasion into Mexico proper. This could lead to the US facing decent resistance but capitulating Mexico or Mexico seeing it would be a lost cause and then to negotiate a separate peace with the US and other allies if they joined to help the fight. Then the US would turn attention to Europe and send its main forces over but they might not need to at this point since Germany was starving and on the brink of revolution regardless.
      So probably was for the best for Mexico to not join but it’s just my opinion. Interesting scenario regardless

    • @johneisenberg7329
      @johneisenberg7329 8 дней назад

      To add on that. There would be no realistic way for Germany to send aid(in substantial numbers that would actually make a difference) to Mexico due to British Naval blockade/supremacy, and the major geographical distance between the two nations. As well as the US would most likely do a Naval Blockade of Mexico with their superior navy.
      On top of that if the war went bad for Mexico(which it most likely would) it could cause widespread unrest and riots in Mexico against the government potentially leading to a coup and/or civil war from anti-government forces. Making the situation for Mexico even worse.
      Even if we were to be very hypothetical and Generous to Mexico and say by some chance they pushed deep into the US taking back much of the border states and southern states they once had as territory, the vast border they would have to man and stretched supply lines would make it guaranteed that the offensive would halt at some point and be pushed back. As well as they would have taken significant casualties to get to this point.

  • @samueltrusik3251
    @samueltrusik3251 Месяц назад +204

    What if Finland joined the allies (Maybe after getting their help during the winter war?).

    • @CounterHot
      @CounterHot Месяц назад

      Finland actually joined Soviet Union war against Germans in 1944, but they didn't fight outside of their country

    • @Thebaconmurderer
      @Thebaconmurderer Месяц назад +1

      Wouldn't happen the Germans allowed the Allies to help Finland as long as they didn't attack German shipping for the Winter War. The Allies strictly didn't want to call a minor ceasefire with the Axis to only help the Finns (Also, it didn't help Sweden also would allow transportation through their country as to stay 100% neutral).
      Then the British in the interwar period seeing as they wouldn't be able to assist Finland and attack Germany at the same time decided to supply the Soviets.

  • @nickster5207
    @nickster5207 Месяц назад +124

    What if Imperial Russia made it out of WW1 intact.

  • @friendlyneighborhoodcommunist
    @friendlyneighborhoodcommunist Месяц назад +151

    what if the soviet didn't cooperate with the germans in 1939?

  • @arthurfisher582
    @arthurfisher582 Месяц назад +161

    Anarchists. Anarchists. Anarchists. I'm dying to hear what you think would happen if the Spanish anarchists could have won the war.

    • @privatecanook
      @privatecanook Месяц назад +12

      The problem is, paradox gets the Anarchist wrong. The Anarchists never rose up to fight. There were small protests and riots that were stamped out by the Republicans

    • @Imulti
      @Imulti Месяц назад +1

      ​​@@privatecanook they only considered declaring independence but never did and were on the side of the Republicans

    • @Cotac_Rastic
      @Cotac_Rastic Месяц назад +2

      ​@@privatecanook I mean pear harbour never happens either lmao

    • @privatecanook
      @privatecanook Месяц назад +4

      @@Cotac_Rastic Pear harbour?

    • @_unknown123.
      @_unknown123. Месяц назад

      That would be a paradox
      Anarchism in concept is those who oppose the concept of government that makes no sense if they create their own government
      That's like telling communists to create a free market

  • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
    @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 Месяц назад +47

    Attempt 3: (Using the Great War Redux again) What if Italy honored the Triple Alliance and eventually joined the Central Powers when WWI comes around?

    • @tuluppampam
      @tuluppampam Месяц назад

      I'm sorry but that's just impossibile.
      The Italians despised Austria Hungary, and Austria Hungary despised Italy.
      At best Italy would stay neutral, but there is no way that it would ever join the war on the side of the Central Powers.

  • @sirmcsquizzy
    @sirmcsquizzy Месяц назад +240

    What if Austria-Hungary reformed in 1936?

    • @arthurfisher582
      @arthurfisher582 Месяц назад +6

      Austria-Hungary seen here in their natural habitat of abandoning their artillery.

    • @privatecanook
      @privatecanook Месяц назад +1

      I’m pretty sure hes only doing possible outcomes

  • @les9870
    @les9870 Месяц назад +13

    My one disagreement with this is the Soviets. Stalin knew he would have to go to war with Germany but he didn't think it would come in 41. He was shocked that Germany invaded. I think that in this scenario he would still be shocked to be invaded in 42. Personally, I don't think the nine months Soviets had would have done anything. They would be no more prepared for war in early 42 than they were in mid 41. As to what affects that would do to the war I can't say for certain. I think the war would be extended even if it was the nine months of the later start. Sorry sometimes my history brain just takes over. From an entertainment purpose, I'm absolutely loving these videos.

  • @misza115
    @misza115 Месяц назад +32

    What if the allies actually opposed rhineland/anchluss/sudetenland etc?

    • @krisvangucht5884
      @krisvangucht5884 Месяц назад

      Would probably kick off the war early, I'm not sure if it would change the course of events much though - they'd just happen while officially at war instead. Though the Germans probably wouldn't fare quite as well early on if the war started before they were ready for it.

    • @Thebaconmurderer
      @Thebaconmurderer Месяц назад

      Hitler would have immediately stopped on any of them. He set in precedent that if they were to deny any of those he would concede.
      Also the first two were a guarantee that he wouldn't purse any further the Sudetenland might have been different though if the first two went through, but a very slim chance.
      Also with the Anchluss Mussolini had been very stigent on guaranteeing Austrias independence, but had no real support for it. Even when he requested help from the British and French they told him to pretty much go fuck himself because he invaded Ethiopia, and it wasn't like either of those countries hadn't been slaughtering and taking more control of land from their colonies at that time. They just didn't want Italy fully surroundin the area.

  • @El.fish.the.chocolate
    @El.fish.the.chocolate Месяц назад +49

    What if turkey aligned with the axis in ww2?

    • @alfredovillalobos7481
      @alfredovillalobos7481 Месяц назад +10

      It literally got explained in this video

    • @El.fish.the.chocolate
      @El.fish.the.chocolate Месяц назад

      @@alfredovillalobos7481 no, I mean if it was preparing for war much before, like in 1936 when the game start.
      So, you can actually become the fifth fascist nation the European continent and start to try and develope earlier.

  • @istvanmag4851
    @istvanmag4851 Месяц назад +21

    What if hungary declared independence before ww1(great war redux)

  • @Nooo00000OO-j
    @Nooo00000OO-j Месяц назад +32

    What if the Franco-British Union formed after the fall of France

  • @marceloforce002
    @marceloforce002 Месяц назад +9

    Video 20 of asking stakuyi to play as the Katzenartig Imperium in equestria at war
    It is an april fools collaboration between the devs from EaW and the devs from the stellaris mod Gigastructural Engineering, the nation is the kingdom of abyssinia, you play as Kaiser Kattail, who has just arrived from another reality and attempts to take over the world utilizing his knowledge of mechanized warfare and megastructures to give his empire a gigantic edge.
    (for his focus tree to show up, you have to enable it at the game rules menu at the bottom)

  • @vladimirhajs4106
    @vladimirhajs4106 Месяц назад +40

    What if Spain Joined Axis in WW2

    • @alfredovillalobos7481
      @alfredovillalobos7481 Месяц назад +5

      Spanish people would’ve revolted against Franco since they just had their civil war and the country was war thorn. Franco knew people would not follow him if he decided to join the war

    • @papalachappa674
      @papalachappa674 Месяц назад

      @@alfredovillalobos7481bro thinks he’s him

    • @calebwhitetheawoken
      @calebwhitetheawoken Месяц назад +3

      ​@@papalachappa674No bro knows history.

    • @papalachappa674
      @papalachappa674 Месяц назад

      @@calebwhitetheawoken so?

    • @papalachappa674
      @papalachappa674 Месяц назад

      @@calebwhitetheawoken bros out here answering questions like he’s him

  • @antoninlukas2331
    @antoninlukas2331 Месяц назад +17

    What if Czechoslovakia refused Munich.

    • @yeetsahoy7867
      @yeetsahoy7867 Месяц назад

      They couldn’t hope to beat Germany so it probably wouldn’t be too different from our time

    • @antoninlukas2331
      @antoninlukas2331 Месяц назад +1

      @@yeetsahoy7867 germany would be significantly weaker

  • @IsaacW-ds8om
    @IsaacW-ds8om Месяц назад +23

    I'm not sure if you've done this yet, but what if the Germans focused fully on Navy, and barely on ground forces

    • @krisvangucht5884
      @krisvangucht5884 Месяц назад +1

      They wouldn't exactly be able to conquer the mainland if their army was only about on par with say the Polish army at the time.

  • @givemeawand
    @givemeawand Месяц назад +11

    What if Sweden joined the Central Powers in World War I?

  • @andreashesseerichsen438
    @andreashesseerichsen438 Месяц назад +31

    What if denmark didn't fall in 6 hours to the germans, and maybe even was able to invade back?

    • @Historybreez
      @Historybreez Месяц назад +4

      Thats a good one. You Danish?

  • @TheRavenLord1
    @TheRavenLord1 Месяц назад +8

    Business Plot had been successful

  • @erikstigebrandt6046
    @erikstigebrandt6046 Месяц назад +8

    What if Sweden abandoned neutrality?

  • @LaydenWhalker
    @LaydenWhalker Месяц назад +12

    Dang made it here fast

  • @ankard4
    @ankard4 Месяц назад +14

    what if operation valkyrie was succesful

  • @LaydenWhalker
    @LaydenWhalker Месяц назад +61

    What if the USA Annexed Mexico Before WW2

    • @akosperjesi4384
      @akosperjesi4384 Месяц назад +5

      This is very not historical bro, why the USA do that?

    • @josesoria2072
      @josesoria2072 Месяц назад

      I agree with the one above but I'm still interested

    • @maxthetube8466
      @maxthetube8466 Месяц назад +2

      Would change literally nothing

    • @breaking-bad2
      @breaking-bad2 Месяц назад

      No beee watafak

    • @jcruz8458
      @jcruz8458 Месяц назад

      @@akosperjesi4384I mean it kinda is. But even by ww1 it’s too late for this idea. The biggest reason the USA didn’t annex all of Mexico after the Mexican-American war was because the USA didn’t want to take care and deal with a whole new Spanish/Mexican population that would have to be granted citizenship.

  • @ImJustAKwimpOfficial
    @ImJustAKwimpOfficial Месяц назад +8

    What if the Benelux was never dissolved?

  • @Talking_Ben_nr_1
    @Talking_Ben_nr_1 Месяц назад +9

    What if sweden kept finalnd and kept it until ww1 and then joined the central powers bc of their rivaly with russia

    • @olorin7611
      @olorin7611 Месяц назад +1

      Sweden would have had to win the Great Northern War then (like my comment?)

    • @Talking_Ben_nr_1
      @Talking_Ben_nr_1 Месяц назад

      @@olorin7611 nah im talking abt when they lost Finland during the napolenic war

  • @averybaumann
    @averybaumann 29 дней назад +1

    When the Italians attacked the British they had over half a million troops and 43? Trucks to supply them from Tunisia past Benazi.
    The Italian generals were screaming for vehicles to move supplies across the desert while mussilini was screaming for them to move faster while totally ignoring their request for trucks, they were not only short supplies but were unable to move thw supplies they had.

  • @TheBabytaz30
    @TheBabytaz30 Месяц назад +7

    (What if USA loss the revolutionary war)do pax Britannica

  • @lucabuchwald9744
    @lucabuchwald9744 Месяц назад +1

    My brother and I imagined a scenario where no one wins World War II.
    Everything is going exactly the same as in the current timeline, BUT the USSR achieves a surprising victory in Finland, giving Germany fear of war and thus avoiding Barbarossa (or so we think).
    On the other hand, Japan would not be so brave to attack Pearl Harbor or the Philippines because the US navy would be prepared for any war seeing what happened in Europe, this would mean that Japan would only concentrate on China.
    Returning to Europe, a kind of "tie" occurs between the United Kingdom and Germany, the bombing campaign goes on and on because neither side plans to give in, there is simply no room to discuss peace since Hitler, seeing his plan of obsolete destroying Stalin would have an even greater thirst for power, perhaps even attacking countries in the Middle East such as Turkey, Iraq and Iran in search of reaching the British Raj (a scenario perhaps similar to the one in this video).
    This came up when my brother asked me why so many people believe that Germany could have won the war.
    I answered that, the most Germany could obtain was a tie with the Allies as long as the United States did not join.
    What do you think?

  • @mrmeep4073
    @mrmeep4073 Месяц назад +9

    What if the battle of Kursk was won by the Germans?

  • @LegendaryMapping2009
    @LegendaryMapping2009 Месяц назад +5

    What if the Weimar Republic never fell?

  • @filce1232
    @filce1232 Месяц назад +3

    I don't really agree with the undermining of the loss of egypt of the British, they would have lost Malta, Cyprus and all of the mediterrenian would be on lockdown. Not to mention Iran also having many oil fields and a pro axis government, a lot of the lend lease to the soviets went through Iran, in this timeline it would have to go through Murmansk(very close to german positions) or through the eastern ports(very close to japan) in a way bigger scale. Also I don't think the germans would just let north Africa fall that easily with egypt under control. Egypt also provides with a lot of food which means troops and people don't starve.

    • @krisvangucht5884
      @krisvangucht5884 Месяц назад +2

      I agree, the importance of the Suez/Africa and further ramifications in places such as India is a bit understated in the video.

    • @JH4LL013
      @JH4LL013 Месяц назад

      @@krisvangucht5884 also I think it would be very likely that either Iran joins the axis or are invaded. Through Iran the Axis can attack India.

  • @freddyfazbear3472
    @freddyfazbear3472 Месяц назад +2

    What is operation overlord/d-day was a complete failure?

  • @ElectronicAnts
    @ElectronicAnts Месяц назад +8

    They lose 5 years earlier

  • @dominicanemperor28
    @dominicanemperor28 Месяц назад +2

    What if the Soviet’s didn’t collapse? As in, before 1991, they did something to prevent their collapse and make it to the 21st century - Use the Cold War mod
    Or, What if the German Revolution of 1918-1919 was a success - Use Great War Redux mod

  • @thomasshaw61
    @thomasshaw61 25 дней назад

    So awesome!Thanks for sharing!!I will have to get that,on my steam account,once I go back to work!

  • @eganburg
    @eganburg Месяц назад +3

    I would disagree with this. 85% oil of Soviet Union comes from Caucasus. If Turkey joined in and the Axis gets that territory, then it doesn't matter how much the US helps; they didn't have the resources to continue this war.

    • @krisvangucht5884
      @krisvangucht5884 Месяц назад +3

      Their oil stockpiles wouldn't disappear instantly and even low on fuel they still had a ton of manpower so it's still unlikely they'd suffer a total defeat. It'd probably go somewhat worse for them than it did in this video though yeah.

    • @ingratus8160
      @ingratus8160 4 дня назад

      @@krisvangucht5884 Unequipped and undersupplied manpower is useless.

  • @IvoryColonizer
    @IvoryColonizer Месяц назад +1

    Oil mean mobility. Mobility is something the Germans are good at. Soviet counterattacks are mauled and the Russians are bled white.

  • @Mrredsnake60
    @Mrredsnake60 Месяц назад +6

    What if Poland appeared for war in WW2?

  • @Flying_kiwiYT
    @Flying_kiwiYT Месяц назад +5

    What if Italy joined the allies in WW2

    • @Thebaconmurderer
      @Thebaconmurderer Месяц назад

      It was a very good possibility with Mussolini being very stigent on guaranteeing Austrian independence, but the British and French were passed because Italy took Ethiopia as a colony. Which the reason as to why they got passed off about it removed land passage between their own colonies. Britain was wanting to take Ethiopia through means of papers (there's a long list of colonies at the time that had been set as a precedent for whichever country wants to take them can either do it by warfare or tricking them into signing papers which Italy decided to do the first meanwhile Britain and France were both trying the second).
      Eventually when mussolini approached them they said nope, and all he could do was find a way to try and not be invaded at the earliest possibility. So he decided to join the Axis, and was presuming to start the war against the French and British in 1943 via the Pact of Steel. Which originally he only planned on invading Yugoslavia and Greece, with trying to convince the British to give up Malta and Cyprus and the French in giving up Tripoli.

  • @blakeherrin1315
    @blakeherrin1315 Месяц назад +4

    What if the south survived the civil war and was in ww1 and ww2

  • @JustifiedCrusader8975
    @JustifiedCrusader8975 Месяц назад +2

    What if the german navy beat the royal navy in every field subs, battleships, dreadnoughts, and aircraft carriers.

  • @Deutscheball
    @Deutscheball Месяц назад +3

    what if the kaiser was overthrown by democratic elements of the german government in 1910

  • @rossiie0440
    @rossiie0440 Месяц назад

    From what i read Germany last a lot of Fallschirmjäger when taking Cypress, so they were hesitant to risk them again to take Malta.

  • @Tokugawa__
    @Tokugawa__ Месяц назад +4

    Ok, nice but what if Mengkukuo went democratic?

    • @krisvangucht5884
      @krisvangucht5884 Месяц назад

      Weren't they a puppet government under Japanese control at the time? Did they even have the option to realistically embrace democracy?

  • @SantiagoLopez-us7oc
    @SantiagoLopez-us7oc Месяц назад +3

    What if USA joined Germany in WWI

  • @JahJah-CleverHandle
    @JahJah-CleverHandle Месяц назад +1

    I know it’s a bit of a departure from your usual content, but this is video *11* of asking Stakuyi to play *Frostpunk*, the moral-challenging society-survival city-builder game by 11 Bit, set in an alternate steampunk 1886 where an endless winter engulfs the planet and destroys civilisation.

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 23 дня назад +1

    Lore of Hoi4 Alternate History: What if Germany Focused on Africa in WW2? Momentum 100

  • @nighthaven5639
    @nighthaven5639 Месяц назад +6

    What if francisco franco actually joined the axis instead of japan, spain and italy could potentially clash over africa and maybe cause the axis to break up

  • @espiao7343
    @espiao7343 Месяц назад +1

    I think this timeline would be more realistic if instead of postponing Barbarossa (destroying the bolsheviks was central to natzie ideology), the germans do a much smaller 1942 offensive (fall blau) in order to divert resources to Afrika Korps. You also forgot that the major route of supplies for USSR was through Iran where an anglo-soviet invasion happened in august 1941. In this scenario Turkey doesn't even needs to join on the axis side because the germans can just get to Baku through Iran. The fascist Iraqi government I believe was a good call though.

  • @LastGoatKnight
    @LastGoatKnight Месяц назад +2

    What if Japan didn't enter the war and focused only on the USSR?
    Better yet, What if "Tora tora tora" aka the attack against Pearl harbor did work as they wanted it? (USA losing the majority if not all of its fleet and is forced to withdraw from the Pacific)

    • @maxthetube8466
      @maxthetube8466 Месяц назад +2

      He already did a video about Japan favoring the army and the kodoha faction
      So in combination with the second suggestion the soviets are supercharged in Asia as Japan weakens both itself in Siberia and the allies in south and East Asia

  • @Defcon1OfficialYoutube-kn4lw
    @Defcon1OfficialYoutube-kn4lw Месяц назад +2

    What if the Soviets invaded the Germans first (Germans don't invade in 1941)

  • @DerDenkende
    @DerDenkende Месяц назад +1

    I think it’s a lil illogical that the soviets could stand this good against Germany who have their biggest problem solved (lack of oil) and captured 80% of the Soviet oil fields + extra manpower from turkey and better equipment and development in war weapon technologies. Including the new super modern submarines of the Germans. Yes you could bring up the argument that the US would supplies them with oil and other scarce goods but with the new submarines they could hardly supply the soviets from the Atlantic site and Japan makes it hard for them to supply from pacific. Of course Soviet Union would have had more time for perpetration. Nevertheless, the advantages of the other side greatly outweigh those of the Russians. Just my opinion
    Still interesting scenario. Keep up the good content

  • @tanksoldier
    @tanksoldier Месяц назад +1

    What if, instead of driving for Moscow, Germany settled for the Caucasus? They would have had much less front to defend, would have had the oil they wanted and could have accomplished that before Russia fully mobilized, and they would have had short supply lines in the South from Turkey.

  • @secedenc5544
    @secedenc5544 Месяц назад +1

    Honestly Germany would’ve had a chance if they didn’t declare war on the US after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and Germany invaded the Soviet Union right as the winter was receding in early spring 1941.

  • @NegotiatorGladiarius
    @NegotiatorGladiarius Месяц назад +1

    TBH, given that AT LEAST since Mein Kampf he saw the USSR as the obvious needed expansion place and "judeo/bolshevism" as the end of wester civilization... and that most of those ideas, including the underlying eugenics and that empires crumble when they get too many barbarians, were not even his own, but passed for mainstream science at the time... and not just in Germany; in fact most were imported from the USA... I find this scenario somewhat improbable.
    Yeah, sad thing is, it wasn't those ideas that made National Socialism a fringe ideology. It was the other way around. It was actually seeing what the logical conclusion of those ideas is, when someone actually does something about it, instead of just hand wringing and whining about it, that made the world go, "eeeh... maybe that's a bad idea."
    Well... sorta... one way that this could have played out this way is if Halder actually told Hitler that, yeah, no, there's no way in hell they can get the strategic objectives in 4 months. Possibly with some help from Keitel and others. Then I suppose that Adolf might have looked for other targets. Or not.

  • @Defcon1OfficialYoutube-kn4lw
    @Defcon1OfficialYoutube-kn4lw Месяц назад +3

    What if sealion was successful

  • @AwayWithYouVileBeggar
    @AwayWithYouVileBeggar Месяц назад +2

    Thinking about interesting scenarios reminded me that during the interwar period Poland and Romania were very close and that resulted in a defensive alliance to deter people (The Soviets/Germany) from attacking. Historically Poland didn't call Romania against the Germans fearing the Soviets may join and sadly that's exactly what happened. But what if they did?
    What if Poland called Romania against the Germans?

    • @krisvangucht5884
      @krisvangucht5884 Месяц назад +1

      The Polish were too badly outmatched and the Romanians would likely not have fared much better than them against the Germans. The Hungarians might have gotten involved too making the situation potentially even worse.

    • @AwayWithYouVileBeggar
      @AwayWithYouVileBeggar Месяц назад +1

      @@krisvangucht5884 Yep but just like this episode it'll be interesting to see the narrative Stak will come up with.
      Perhaps the war won't be much different but the post war situation will.
      Maybe the Soviets won't be able to establish puppets in Eastern/Central Europe since both Poland and Romania would be in the Allies at this point.

  • @DuCk.ex3
    @DuCk.ex3 Месяц назад +1

    What if the Finland took the Soviet deal before the winter war ( the continuation war still happens)

  • @yololambodadololol4763
    @yololambodadololol4763 Месяц назад +2

    what if italy defended Austria in the anschluss (or just didn't sign the pact of steel)

  • @Chaoskiki923
    @Chaoskiki923 Месяц назад +2

    Day 25 of asking stakuyi to do the goddess viira path for barrad magroacy in equestria at war

  • @garrettvinson3376
    @garrettvinson3376 Месяц назад +1

    What if the colonizing countries in America swapped hemispheres? England setting up in South America while Spain and Portugal went to North America, for example?

  • @Alles_geht_den
    @Alles_geht_den Месяц назад

    Malta and the enemy fleets were also a huge problem, because they dunk the german convoys when they where shipes to libyen

  • @firesturmgaming
    @firesturmgaming Месяц назад +2

    What if the Kriegsmarine had gone the cruiser, destroyer doctrine instead of wasting their resources on battleships?

    • @krisvangucht5884
      @krisvangucht5884 Месяц назад

      They would have probably been better off focusing on submarines almost exclusively with just enough surface ships to prevent a naval landing on their coast. There was just no way for them to put enough resources into the naval game to beat the Royal Navy in a pitched naval battle, not with their plans (>>Barbarossa) - raiding with subs at least caused a good deal of economic damage to the British Empire while being a cheaper option than those overpriced Battleships. Of course, at that time the idea was to 'make one Huge ship that could defeat a large number of the British ships' Which would have been fine if it actually worked - Unlike us, they didn't have the power of hindsight.

  • @Giova21
    @Giova21 Месяц назад +2

    What if the London Pact of WW1 with Italy was respected?

  • @seargesoren9391
    @seargesoren9391 Месяц назад +3

    What if Germany became communist before ww2

  • @Dav950
    @Dav950 Месяц назад +1

    What if Hungary stayed neutral in the war? And maybe in the last couple of days of the war joined on the side of the USSR

  • @DanFuller-zu5le
    @DanFuller-zu5le 6 дней назад +1

    Hi I’m new to the game I was wondering if I should get the dlc packs what do they do and are they any good any advice please

  • @zegolden314
    @zegolden314 Месяц назад +1

    This was my video!

  • @waynevan7050
    @waynevan7050 Месяц назад +1

    How about this scenario, but Germany does not turn on the Soviet Union. In fact, after getting Turkey in their camp, they actually invite The Soviet Union to join the Axis, but this time seriously, unlike their toying with the idea in our timeline. Such a move, coupled with the lack of a Battle of Britain, leads to the possibility that the U.S. never declares war on Germany (or vice-versa) and there is then zero lend lease to the Soviets. Then, the Germans could focus the majority of their military production towards air power (say ME-262 mass production in 1943) and then turn towards England with everything they had.

  • @Jfk_rp
    @Jfk_rp Месяц назад +1

    3 minutes is wild

  • @tsamoka6496
    @tsamoka6496 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Stakuyi! If you think it'd be worth it, I think a playthrough of the Youjo Senki Redux mod would be fun to see. Please? It would really make my day. =^x^=

  • @benpierce3070
    @benpierce3070 Месяц назад +1

    Think my only issue with the play through would be Hitler expending units to still get the Caucasus, with Iraq in the fold they wouldn’t have needed the oil, so once they took Stalingrad, they’d make a B line to Moscow.

  • @keybladerift5295
    @keybladerift5295 Месяц назад

    Always love these!

  • @AOA9871
    @AOA9871 Месяц назад +2

    What if the Latin Entente formed in WW2?

  • @h.carson5414
    @h.carson5414 14 дней назад

    It always came back to dealing with Stalin. Adolf understood that and was committed to Barbarosa out of necessity. Time was not on the Germans' side.

  • @darrennpeagler47291
    @darrennpeagler47291 24 дня назад

    I do agree to an extent that the axis could've still lost. However, I can't help but note the lack of securing the Mediterranean more fully. In particular, by including Spain and coaxing them into attacking and securing Gibraltar and perhaps, by pressuring Vichy France, into securing the western coastal region of French West Africa. Who knows, perhaps they could put pressure against Allied possessions in Western africa in the Sahel region and west central Africa. Additionally, the Axis wouldn't have been focused on pressuring Turkey and Iraq. There was a third nation. That being Iran, known as Persia at the time. Iran was a major oil producing nation. In fact it was quite literally the prize in the middle east. Around this time Iran was producing more oil than Saudi Arabia, simply because the oil production in Saudi Arabia didn't grow until the 1950s, also because they had just discovered the tip of the iceberg in Saudi Arabia the rest had yet to be discovered and produced. Finally, by militarily supporting Iran, the Axis could've opened up another avenue of attack against the Soviet Union in central Asia, in particular modern Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan. Additionally if Germany truly wanted to work with Japan to achieve victory. By using Iran as a staging area, they could've attempted to conduct an Oriental strategy with Japan by coordinating offensives into India and the Indian ocean region. This most definitely would have stretched resources significantly, but, it could've seriously weakened the allies had the offensive succeeded. Who's to say. 🤷

  • @meowingtonvonmeow8868
    @meowingtonvonmeow8868 Месяц назад +1

    What if Stakuyi played East Coast Rebirth

  • @Ibishu200BXenjoyer
    @Ibishu200BXenjoyer Месяц назад +2

    the video is 21:37 long and only polish people will understand

  • @Master0of0Blades
    @Master0of0Blades Месяц назад +1

    What if the Turkish had made their own side and decided they wanted the Balkans, Poland and Germany Austria in a northward aggression on the philosophical side of the allies but not allied

  • @andersstaugaard9499
    @andersstaugaard9499 Месяц назад +1

    What if an united Scandinavia didn't join any sides, but went to war against Axis and Allies for world domination... Its ok to invite to own faction.

  • @liborcoufal1695
    @liborcoufal1695 Месяц назад +1

    What if little entante never broke up

  • @7__TTT__8
    @7__TTT__8 Месяц назад

    Video 5 of asking stakuyi to renew the Rome protocols

  • @stefotorpedo
    @stefotorpedo Месяц назад +1

    What if the Mongols didn't devastate Eastern/South-Eastern Europe, specifically Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria? As those three were (arguably) some of the more centralised european polities at the time, how would their uninterrupted development affect the course of European history ?

  • @AlexMitchell-ct8tt
    @AlexMitchell-ct8tt Месяц назад +2

    What if amercia stayed British but napoleon still rose to power

  • @josephmclaughlin8645
    @josephmclaughlin8645 Месяц назад +1

    What if a Jacobite Monarch Ascended the British throne? (Empire Mod)

  • @michaelvstemerman
    @michaelvstemerman Месяц назад +1

    What if Spain went Anarchist, likely through a merger of the CNT-FAI and POUM

    • @krisvangucht5884
      @krisvangucht5884 Месяц назад

      That wouldn't be an 'anarchist Spain'. that would be a bunch of anarchist dudes living in the territory where Spain used to be and being largely irrelevant to everyone else.

  • @mrfancygoat
    @mrfancygoat Месяц назад +1

    What if the comintern, axis, and allies were in a 3 way war?

  • @GamingTillLate
    @GamingTillLate Месяц назад +1

    What if Germany ignored Japan & kept a neutral stance with the US?

  • @ryano7340
    @ryano7340 Месяц назад

    It also needs to be mentioned that if Germany lasted another 4 to 5 months longer in the war, it would’ve been the first to receive a nuclear bomb, not Japan. There needs to be discussed on how that would’ve affected the German morale and affected Hitler personally.

  • @mikmic7437
    @mikmic7437 Месяц назад

    Day 15 of asking Stakuyi to continue playing Kaiserredux A to Z, so he can reach Malta and hopefully plays Mintoff

  • @henrywilson2136
    @henrywilson2136 Месяц назад +1

    What if Turkey joined the war earlier? Second poll to determine which way.

  • @th3grav3mak3rgaming8
    @th3grav3mak3rgaming8 Месяц назад

    It would be interesting to do a what if for a different times. For example one in ancient Japan.

  • @harryrobinson260
    @harryrobinson260 Месяц назад +1

    What if Spain joined the Central Powers in WW1?

  • @williamwigley2820
    @williamwigley2820 27 дней назад

    Though this is a fun scenario, the Germans could not have focused on anything other than the East because of a food shortage. Yes many other factors were at play but all of axis controlled Europe would have starved including German by spring of 1942. They needed the 1941 harvest in Ukraine just to feed themselves.

  • @JediSheng
    @JediSheng Месяц назад

    Not sure if you can do this one, but what if Napoleon had won (or at least lasted a few years longer) if nothing else, that would have a pretty big impact on North America, as WHEN the war with Napoleon ended allowed troops to be sent to aid Canada, which was currently involved in a war with the (Still fairly young) USA. Also if Napoleon had won, I could see him sending troops to aid America for potential future profit (and or if America won due to the war taking longer, them sending troops to aid the long time ally of France