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0:00 Intro
0:30 Invincible
2:40 Plague of Undeath
7:04 Boat
8:30 Frostmourne
13:49 The Dark Prince
16:42 Kel'thuzad
20:47 Betrayers
24:18 Wrath
25:34 Stop Watching the Video
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This was amazing. 10/10.
Do you think think Arthas is into BSDM?
Arthas did nothing wrong
platinum is that Arthas Background downloadble?
i hate patrick seitz arthas, and the ai voice made my hatred grow higher than elves still breathing
Had no idea a French destroyer had such a key role in the lore
That looks like Bismarck
He dident even mention the Ikea destroyers :(
what a clever ad transition... 😂
The Jailer financed it.
@@zilvis1140 No it doesn't, its clearly a French Richelieu class battleship, which were superior to the bismarck in armor and firepower.
Babe wake up, new Platinum WOW video just dropped.
Thanks
Your a hero
yeess
arthas history: badassery, being alone when needing the help of those close to you, and actually betraying everyone once arthas gets a hold of an ounce of power.
arthas story on shadowlands: *HE GETS FUCKING DISENCHANTED*
No one can convince me that was written by some bitter idiot who hated the old WoW community.
35 anima token
shadowtrash lore is sheet
@@Yibgurman thats even worse than just dying and being forgotten.
The worst thing is
It's thanks to Uther, who was completely out of character and reconned to oblivion to fit shadowlands story
It’s fucking wild how Arthas, who explicitly had his soul wrenched away from him by Frostmourne, has his soul completely destroyed as punishment for the things his body did without it. I accepted the idea of Arthas’s soul being destroyed with Frostmourne, it felt like a bittersweet and tragic end that was ultimately brought on by his own recklessness and need for control. But then having his soul actually survive only to fucking fizzle out like a fart-cloud after being crafted into a Frostmourne clone that can’t even properly dominate Anduin’s will? With the last sentiment being “Hey, fuck that guy right?”
God damn, what a dogshit ending
Cata+ WoW lore is non-canon
Turned his soul in to a 35 anima globule and gave Sylvanas a shitty monologue as a send off. Writing done with a crayon and coloring outside of the lines.
omg do NOT get me fuckin started my dude, Im still mad about how they mishandled such an iconic character, it would have been the tits to see Anduin and Arthas trying to encourage each other or having some offhand comment from Arthas that he hasn't seen Anduin since he was a baby and how much he looks like his dad since they kind of grew up together for a while. a sort of halfish uncle kind of vibes with some slight mentorship since ya know...He was a PALADIN for fucks sakes,
not to mention the fact that Jaina and Uther never really got any closure either, Sylvannas was a bitch even before she was Undeaded and her whole thing of telling his soul remnant to fuck off was just NO. you had Uther and Jaina right fucking there, RIGHT THERE AND THEY SAY PISS ALL. Uther should be down there too rescuing souls with the other dark Kyrian since its his fault Arthas never really got proper judgement being he was just dumped right into the Maw.
its like new blizz writers like the lich king, or at least the idea of the lich king, but they have no fucking clue how to have used Arthas Properly. Arthas and the Lich King are not the same person.
the wasted potential is almost criminal, how sick could it have been of us helping restore his souls since he could have Easily known what the Jailer was planning to do instead of needing fucking Sylvannas since he was in there for what like 10 years or so?
like each covenant essentially shoving him into their form of wild seed and feeding him anima and dispelling his regrets and fears. like Imagine him seeing our characters and just being like Its you, you're the one that set me free. Like Vajsh remembers that we killed her and so did Kale'thas, but maybe Arthas sees us killing him more as a mercy.
Everthing he did wasent only "frostmourne" or Nerzul lol, not at the begining. Hes the best character in warcraft, but the shit he did should not have a redemption, I dont expect you ppl to listen to the "Sylvanas sound book" But if you do listen to it, you can clearly understand that arthas was already lost before he picked up the sword
@@dobbylollol I’m not trying to pretend Arthas was a good person, I played the WarCraft 3 campaign and Strathholme, betraying the mercenaries and his men, and claiming Frostmourne are all more than enough to damn him. But if we’re just gonna go “Oh, Sylvanus should be redeemed” when she was fully in control of herself for all of the worst stuff she did, it feels pretty fucking dirty to then turn around and fuck Arthas over this hard and pretend there’s any narrative justification.
Arthas honestly was just one of the absolute S-tier villains in WoW and I wish we could have someone of that caliber again.
Thrall could be that, kicking fox people out of the horde make war on the alliance and so on make the horde great again
How about the Bad cow man? He is pretty evil, looks like a frickin cow and he has been pulling the strings all along in the background from the cow dimension and it was all his plan or something idk i am just pulling this out of my nose but i dont think Blizzard is doing it anyhow differently right now.
You don’t. You think you do, but you don’t 🫠
Blizzard: hmm, interesting 🤔
Here’s Arthas as a wisp! Yay! Aren’t you all excited?
@@Gorre022😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The "oh I'm the villain now" feeling I'll never forget with Arthas.
Only to be followed up in the Expansion with "Oh yeah! I'm the Villain now!"
You mean in Warcraft 3? Yeah, it's fucking great. Just finished replaying the Reign of Chaos campaign yesterday.
Gonna do Frozen Throne soon.
@@thareus20 Seeing Arthas committing elf genocide across Quel'Thalas made me go "Wow" as a kid. Especially when he did his speech during the Sunwell mission while his undead minions continued massacring elves before reviving Kel'Thuzad as a Lich. It was a powerful moment in the most wrong way possible, and heck I enjoyed it as a kid. Real villain hours right there.
I remember playing my dad’s copy of reign of chaos after watching him play through. He was so disappointed to get the the undead campaign, he hates playing “The Bad Guys”. He never finished the last mission of the Undead campaign, like he didn’t have the heart to do it along with the difficulty. I picked it up after and loved every minute of the game that I acquired the expansion. Makes me want to load it up after a decade.
the true downfall of Arthas was the inexplicable writing.... to not only reveal that some uber mega guy was manipulating everything the whole time despite no actual evidence pointing to him absolutely reeking of "We needed to make an even bigger threat and got lazy and wanted to usurp the lore somehow" but Arthas gets caught up in it as well..... and that final line of "Begone and may you be forgotten" feels like almost a direct insult to the fanbase that likes him so much. Even if it wasn't meant to sound bad.
I'm not even someone who grew up with WoW or has played it(I just kinda dabble in the lore thanks to people like platnum wow.... and I'm angry at this.
Expansion's over buddy. Stop thinking about what they did to a beloved cornerstone of the franchise and just get excited for the next expansion alredy.
And the worst part is that Sylvannas was the one saying that. Uther and Jaina, the characters who know him best, just sat there and said nothing.
And Sylvannas got a redemption while Arthas is just branded a pure villain with no nuance.
I got into WoW lore recently as 2016 during Legion. Which should had been a true end.
"Begone and may you be forgotten" This line is ironic, considering that even today Blizzard continues to milk Arthas's popularity.
@filipvadas7602 Arthas in WC3 was a villain who had affable moments. It was fanon and the likes of Golden who tried to frame him as some tragic hero or whatever.
Forever upsetti spaghetti over the Shadowland's ending for Arthas. And not just because it's awful, not just because it undermines basically the entire plot.
But because Sylvanas is the only one to say a goddamn thing about it. Jaina, his former lover says nothing. Uther, his former mentor, says nothing. Just Sylvanas, who's had a revenge boner all her life says anything. We are ROBBED of an actual farewell to one of, if not the, best villains in Warcraft.
Incoming 'you're sexist and hate strong women' and 'you don't own WoW, they don't have to care about the old fans' comments ringing in my head if this was said on Twitter.😅
100% correct :(
@@luvhair255 Honestly, I think Plat hit it pretty well on the head, a GOOD portion of people really dislike this ending for Arthas so think I'd be in the clear.
Also Jaina's female anyway and she should've gotten to say something so doubly in the clear here.
I think Arthas himself ended just fine, but Sylvanas did NOT need to be the one to say the last word.
Not like Arthas had a soul to remember any of it regardless
"Begone and be forgotten" just sounds like a massive modern entertainment middle finger to fans who expect consistency more than flashy effects. Kinda like "let the past die, kill it if you have to".
"Forget what was, just consume what _is_ and get excited for what will be."
You just know this one is gonna blow up cause it's about Arthas.
Man... what I'd give for warcraft to have a antagonist/protagonist like this again
This one's also gonna blow up cuz it's been made by Platinum.
true arthas is one of the best wow villains in history
ALSO THE ONLY ONE TO CANONICALLY KILL OFF THE HERO'S/CHAMPIONS (aka us. if you beat the raid boss or saw it in a video you'll know what I mean)
@@shadowjoey No Argus did it aswell
I mean, it would be pretty hard for them to do it. They would need to create an enjoyable character who would have to be built up for YEARS to be able to pull it off.
Um, the Jailer! Duh 🤣
Crazy how Invincible died in a snowstorm and then there was never any snow in Lordaeron again.
you fool! dont you know zovaal labored for millennia to cause that snowstorm?! it's all according to plan! /s
IT WAS THE JAILER
Can't believe Arthas turned into 35 anima
I hope you will one day cover the story of Ner'zhul. Always wondered how Orc shaman from Draenor became set of badass looking armor and leader of the undead
I second this comment - Full story of Ner'zhul please!
Basically he betrayed the legion during the collapse of draenor. Took a portal that teleported him DIRECTLY to Kil'jaeden who proceeded to bitch slap him so hard he became nothing but a soul that was then bound to an armor
@@HioshimaFried There are plenty, but you will hate Arthas' story after that
nerzhul was the reason why draenor became what outland is today actually. There is alot of story to it ofc, mostly in the books (old ones ofc)
Quick answer, he made Kil'jaeden angry at him, and trying to flee to another world using the tome of Medivh wasn't enough to escape the Deceiver.
Yeah it was a time where being Archimonde or Kil'jaeden meant something.
My reaction after seeing the Helm of Domination turned into The Crown of Wills: "And me thinking watching Frostmourne being turned into the Blades of the Fallen Prince artifact weapon in Legion was a horrible downgrade...."
atleast the blades of the fallen prince were supposed to be a downgrade.the crown was supposed to be on par...smh
The warning was heeded. I applaud it's inclusion. I'm so glad nothing happened between the events of Battle for Azeroth and Dragonflight that might have ruined a perfectly good conclusion to an iconic storyline :3
The whole sentence Sylvanas delivers with "May the last whisper of your name fade, and be forgotten" feels incredible insulting, it feels like it was the writing team saying "fuck this character, we don't want anything to do with him and his legacy anymore". I cannot put into words how much that single sentence made me rage and it is also the sentence that made me swear to myself to never touch a Blizzard-Activision related product ever again. F them straight up.
Absolutely. The entirety of Shadowlands lore felt so meta aggressive towards the community. Like an abusive parent destroying your things out of pettiness.
@@heli0ns I think you nailed the word I am looking for when trying to describe the writers, "pettiness". I am by no expert, but I can only tell what I felt like when going through the story, and it felt like them trying to destroy something so that they could build something of their own upon the ashes.
Personally not a fan of that, and it is something I have started to feel/see in other media as well where they take established characters or stories and wreck them into the ground and remove everything that made it good.
@@TheMetalfreak360 This new writing team cannot create anything with merit, anything with quality. And they know this, so they are trying to take some solace in destroying the good work of other writers that were there before them.
Slyvanas was tortured by Arthas for entertainment I think out of everything her Hating th e guy is justified
@@Rirrys You are talking about the line I wrote in the main comment? Problem I have with that line is that it doesn't feel like it is coming from Sylvanas, but rather the writing team themselves.
Arthas, one of peoples favorite characters and one that was called to have a redemption arc one day. What a shame they turned him into a sword.
They turned him into a sword! Saddest shit I've ever seen
my man got disenchanted and monologues by sylvanus even tho uther and jaina stood nearby lmao
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What i don't understand is why the writers never used this as a golden opportunity to clarify the existence of 2 versions of Arthas, since Lich King Arthas was basically a soulless Arthas (at his own admission) who developed a will of his own and thus completely separate from the original Arthas who was trapped within Frostmourne.
@@joshuakim5240 You know, that sounds like an extremely interesting storyline and I would be very interested in that. What a shame that Shadowlands writers had their pencils up Sylvanas the entire expansion.
Wow that illidan vs arthas fight looked better than the one in reforged 23:01
it literally looked better in the OG wc3. Ive seen the refunded one bcs when i install the OG it automatically downgrades to refunded and the game went from 1.3gb data size to 32gb
@@semiramisubw4864 That's so sad to hear...You'd think they would've used their newer tech to make it better. F*ck Blizzard.
Warcraft 3 is such a beast of a game. So many iconic scenes from both RoC and Frozen Throne. Love it.
You should've mentioned that he helped with Invincibles birth, which led to the emotional connection he had to the horse.
he does show it though
He didn't say it but it was shown in the video. Invincible literally flew out of the womb into Arthas' face
He help making his horse...
He shows it tho, i didnt know anything and yet I still understood
The fact that you put in "all that work" to make Arthas and Illidan in WWE2K23, just for a mid-video skit, deserves applause. I could hear JR Screaming in the background "Oh my God that killed him!"
I was always disappointed with how they utilized Arthas post frozen throne. I used to think of all the places they could take his character like utilizing him as a wild card against the burning legion who would tip the scales against them but he just died off before he could do anything significant in the overall plot
Arthas story should end at Frozen Throne, but an enslaved mediocre paladin dominated the best shaman from Draenor, real Lich King with thousands armies, his absolute master, how lol ? Thanks Blizzard for shit plot
Tbh I expected Arthas to be ressed on the legion expansion to fight alongside Illidan against the legion. It would be cheesy but really epic
@@telikos85 A broken and tortured Ner'zhul, for ages by kil'jaeden, tho.
Thank the MMO format. You can't have characters or any large/lasting effects in the lore/world because everything must be the same lmao.
@@crysosisback7115 Not after the frozen throne lol but WOTLK said ''Nahhh your story ends here, and we don't give a fk about logic and storytalling"
It is also worth mentioning that Arthas saw how the plague of undeath worked when he saw one of the soldiers turn into a zombie just before the battle of Hearthglen began, something Uther and Jaina spared from witnessing. This terrifying and disgusting moment also led him to decide culling the city of Stratholme while Uther and Jaina doubted his decision.
It's still puzzles me why Jaina decided to just leave at that moment. They could really expand her lore later to explain that.
@@madzaisahave you not seen the cinematic in the game, there was no time she had to go to uther to warn him about the current impending attack and was being rushed by arthas to go
The Ashbringer's story is also highly relevant to Arthas's, and it makes his climactic death atop Icecrown even more epic. Forged by Magni Bronzebeard, Muradin's brother and king of Ironforge, it was infused with not only the Light, the magic that Arthas once wielded but ultimately lost faith in, but also Magni's own righteous fury for Arthas over the presumed death of his brother. It was like the Anti-Frostmourne, a holy weapon that burned any undead it touched to ash. Even when it was corrupted by Kel'thuzad and made a weapon of the Scourge, it eventually purified itself at Light's Hope Chapel so Tirion Fordring could bring it to Northrend, like the blade itself was determined to bring justice down upon Arthas. When it finally met Frostmourne in battle, it shattered the other blade just as Frostmourne once shattered Felo'melorn, the sword of king Anasterian Sunstrider.
Also, how fitting that Tirion Fordring, the only surviving member of the first 5 paladins of the Silver Hand, was there to deliver the final blow.
It's basically what Terenas told Arthas in the 3.3 announcement trailer.
"Can you feel it my son? Closing in, all around you. The Light's Justice has been awakened..."
Arthas was entirely correct in his conclusion from the DK starter storyline, that Tirion Fordring was a MASSIVE threat to him. Clearly, the Lich King's powers of prediction were onto something, but they weren't enough.
@@thareus20 Fitting indeed ! Arthas, during "the dream", was shown visions of the past (where Sindragosa fell in Northrend during the war of the ancients) but also the future, by Ner'zhul. He saw as far as Frostmourne colliding with a weapon of light which probably was why he feared Tirion. I think that Ner'zhul was only able to show him the past accurately because, well its the past, but as for the future of current events, I think he could only foresee the path if certain steps were taken. Unintentionally or perhaps just inevitably because he saw that vision, Arthas indeed took those steps. Thanks to both of you for your comments, certain lore in our beloved universe is just amazing.
@thareus20 Tirion dying was one of the better lore
Another interesting moment: I remember in BFA you could get traditional blood elf armor but before that you needed to finish the quest. You had been told by elves how horrible and bloody the Scourge invasion was. How many people they lost, how many good warriors died that day and you be like "yeah, I know, I was there, I did it (in Warcraft 3)"
The slight cameo peaking out during the replay of the culling for each actor really makes it
23:02 Better depiction of the fight than the one we have in Reforge
Therapist: "It's okay, Peter Griffin the Lightbringer doesn't exist. He can't hurt you."
Peter Griffin the Lightbringer: 4:39
I really hate how Arthas's story ends. That stupid Sylvannas gets a chance at redemption 'because she was under the influence of the jailer' but everybody still despises Arthas, who was also under the influence? And when the Jailers hold is finally released, instead of any kind of salvation, his very essence just crumbles away while people stand around hating him for everything he (Via the jailors actions btw) did as the Death Knight and Lich King with little consideration to how he was also a victim.
Sure, after his allies betrayed him and turned their backs on him when he was forced to purge a city to save the citizens souls from demonic corruption he got a lil angry, disobeyed ordered and refused to return from Northrend until he brought justice to the one who had caused such an atrocity. Would Frostmorne have been able to fully call out to him if Jaine and Uther had been there with him to support him? Was there any consideration for this in the cinematic of Judgement played for his end? No, it was just "You where a horrible, evil man whom we all chased and feared and this pitiful end is fitting."
Some might say that Anduin managed to break free of the Frostmourne he was forced to wield, but if you remember it took the help of two other spirits, his father and, for some reason, Saurfang. Arthas had his two helpers, up until the Culling when Jaina and Uther, who had both seen the soul-damning effects of being turned undead, Jaina personally with Arthas so she could have verified it Uther, and Uther who, as a paladin, would have a inate feel for the soul-corruption within the undead creatures he had fought previously. At the culling those two turned tail, became cowards and ran instead of doing the right thing and left Arthas alone, betrayed and bitter, angry that the ones he trusted and relied upon the most had gone the way they had, and it was that increasing bitterness that let Frostmourne claim him so easily. Anduin never really had to deal with that and had the sword forced upon him.
The fall of arthas is one of the greatest fantasy video game stories of the modern age.
what are the good ones in the old age?
Ultima 4,5,6 are pretty good.
fuqtard doesnt know what modern age means ahaha
The entire Erdrick Trilogy from Dragon Quest
Arthas is easily the most recognizable character. Loved every story beat in wc3 and wrath as a kid. Came back for wrath classic to kill his ass lmaoo
never played wotlk but went for classic.. until they introduced the botstopping WoW token. Adios WoW.
@@semiramisubw4864 skill issue
@@semiramisubw4864😢🎻✌️👋
Arthas did nothing wrong.
I always thought that the whole "there must always be a Lich King" thing was dumb. It undermines Arthas as a villain since it implies that he's actually keeping back his power for literally no reason and it undermines the player character's actions by making their hard-fought victory effectively pointless. And all so the Scourge can continue to be a marketable threat in future franchise iterations.
It was also dumb when they did it with the Overmind in Starcraft.
it came out of nowhere but it makes sense if you dont take it literally
there were still a lot of Undead in northrend and fighting them in battle would cost many more Lives and Years.
In Lore they only knew of the curse on the Sword and not the influence the Helm had i think, which luckily at that Point wasnt corrupted anymore Nerzhul and Arthas were gone.
i always fought the idea was Bolivar would slowly dissmantle the Scourge while he is the Lich king until its gone and then he would Kill himself or something his duty was done.
but then Zolval came into the Lore and was wispering into Bolivars ears and he became Grumpy and pissed until he got defeated by Silvanna
They could have had it told diffrently - for instance, Arthas was holding back on purpose, because he wanted not only to test the champions and gauge their worthiness to serve him, but also because deep in his psyche he resented his own fall. What he would seek to prove - to himself, first and foremost - is that what happened to him could have happened to anyone. The Joker and his "one bad day" schtick.
And honestly, the force feeding of stupid narratives began as early as Wrath. Starting with the fact that the Lich King did not kill Bolvar - the Forsaken blight did, and the dragons burned all that was left. How Bolvar ended up where he was is damn silly.
agreed. It seemed that the writers ran out of brain power at the end of Wotlk.
The Lich King controls all of the scourge which can kill all life on Earth. Without the Lich King they run rampant and kill everyone. There needs to be a Lich King to keep them in check, just not an evil one that wants to use them to end all life.
They went with the loose end option with Bolvar wearing the Helm of Domination rather than simply implying: “en so the combined forces of the Horde and Alliance drove the scourge from their lands, ending the undead threat once and for all.”
I really love the quirky little edits you put into your videos, the lore itself is interesting and your depiction is always top-notch :) keep it up
The day Plat uploads is ALWAYS a good day! Thank you for another banger
Don't forget this was somehow all part of the Jailor's master plan.
...somehow.
EDIT: I personally believe it was all to in order to watch that incredible wrestling match between Arthas & Illidan. Eternal imprisonment is probably very boring.
Nah. It was all for some middle aged hack writer to insert himself into the story and simp over a dead elf. Thats the real horror here
It would be like if someone wrote a sequel to Lord of the Rings and was like "AND THEN THERE WAS AN EVIL BIGGER VILLAIN THAN SAURON THAT NO ONE HAS HEARD OF! AND THE WAR OF THE RING WAS PART OF THEIR MASTER PLAN! MUAHAHAHAHAH!"
16:33 Spoken like a true Death Knight
Therapist: "Ai voiced Arthas isn't real and cannot hurt you"
Ai voiced Arthas: 6:35
let my burning hot, spilled coffee tell you how hilarious and ridiculous was that illidan vs arthas scene. Pure gold
Arthas killed countless innocents. Women, children, no one was spared. When he saw what Blizzard is up to these days he said "you monsters, how could you be so evil?!". And that's why his little soul spirit snuffed out in Shadowlands. He couldn't live with the depravity he has seen.
I absolultely love your Lore videos. Please never change, you make me laugh and you make it fun
28:48 "begone then.. maybe you be forgotten". WTF?! after all that! this goes against the plotline they set up in the beginning of the expansion even! uther went against the rules and fell to darkness and joined the faction of dark vengeance angels for a bit all because he couldnt forgive arthas and condemned him, and after all that, he has no agency or redemption and then they unsympathetically delete him from existence as an afterthought and say "i hope everyone forgets you". W T F bliz.
It felt so unwarranted that Arthas' heel turn was when he (rightly) wanted to purge Stratholme. He really lost it when he fired on deserters
Honestly, after Corona the entire thing can be seen in a different light for me. What would we have said if the leader of a nation had decided to kill entire cities because of it? It's a bit of a gray area given it was his first resort imo.
Not equivelant and they was all turning into zombies. Dreadlords and necromancers was stalking the streets amd there is no amd mever has been a cure
You can feel the writer's resentment in that last sylvanas line.
Great way of narrating through the lore. You had me immersed from second 0 to the end. Love the style of the videos.
4:37-This would have been a perfect cutaway for Family Guy like when that time when Peter failed to talked Arthas out of burning the city of Stratholme.
Its a miracle, bro has remembered the password after 2 months, im truly proud
Because of Uther and Jaina betraying him he started doubting himself which caused him to loose his light powers and since he had sacrificed so many other people he felt like it was only right to sacrifice himself to whatever curse.
"betrayal" is an interesting word to use.
@@fawnieee It may be the wrong world, but the more Uther and Jaina lore is expanded, the stranger their refusal to stay with Arthas is.
Loving this! Wanted to call it a night, but it looks like sleep has to wait a bit.
Was not ready for Tay Zondays incredible performance as Jaina Proudmoore
This is why im glad to have a replica of Frostmourne. Reminds me of the good times of warcraft lore
Imagine if Uther had actually stuck it out with Arthas at Stratholme. He would've been there to see the extent of damage the plague could do and also witness Mal'ganis' influence behind the scenes. The kingdom could've prepared better. Arthas could've had a beefier expedition with support from the Silver Hand and after absorbing Muradins forces they could have stood a much better chance against Mal'ganis. Arthas never would've been desperate enough to take Frostmourne.
No? Arthas fate was pretty much decided since he killed Kel'thuzad. The only one that could change his fate was himself, not any external factor. He was warned on multiple times the road he was taking, by Kelthu himself, Medith, Uther and Muradin.
Having more or less soldiers would not change a thing since his spiral towards a dark path was taken step by step slowly but surely by no one but himself.
@@leonitrox15 Its not so much the additional troops as it is the moral support.
If Arthas wasn't so isolated he would never have been desperate enough to act the way he did. Uther only undermines Arthas because he is ignorant of just how bad the situation is.
Things would play out very differently if Arthas wasn't by himself in Stratholme or had more support on Northrend.
Again and again, he never was alone to begin with, even if Uther or Jaina were not there literally, they cared deeply for him, is because his arrogance that he can't see that, and sees them as contrarians, when in fact they were just trying to protect him. The best path Arthas could had taken was give up Stratholme and gather as many forces as they could in the capital to resist the advance, look for alliances. But thats just my opinion.
Don't get me wrong, Death Knight Arthas is my favorite. But 85% of the fault is his, you could say the other 15% to both Uther and Jaina for not knowing how to approach him in a better way (probably).
To me his fate was pretty much decided when he first encountered KT.
Or at least once they saw the Dreadlord they could have killed him together in Stratholme.
This was awesome, thanks man 😊 I sincerely feel joy while watching your videos 😚
Great video. Thank you for your work, Platinum WoW.
Shadowlands would have gone a lot better if instead of focusing solely on Uther's redemption, if his redemption was tied up with TRUE forgiveness as he sought a way to free Arthas' soul. Arthas is so tied up with the core of the lore, that it would have been a nice touch if it was Arthas seeking forgiveness from all these souls he failed and murdered, maybe even another sweet father son moment as he begs his father for forgiveness. So much wasted potential
That Arthas vs Illidan fight was so epic, wow
This is the wildest Platinum WoW video I have seen yet. Now I see why you're hiatus was so long
i really like the editing xD good job!
Man, I was having a good day until I was reminded of Shadowlands lore.
Loved to see the return of hiring people to play characters. This is peak WoW.
Amazing video plat! Think we can all agree the shadowlands segment is in none of our head cannon
was a very good video and i thought on the end it comes the afterlife from uther in shadowlands XD i hope it comes soon too :D thumbs up! Good work
Shadowlands was created during the height of the era to take popular franchises and throw them in the garbage. The entire point of that expansion was the writers to feel good of "Oh look we can make a better story!" So they took the entire lore and pulled "Oh look we do it but better! See our stuff is better!" Hence why Arthas was targetted as the most biggest popular thing in Warcraft's franchise.
hehe, loved the intro, made me proud to be one of the few that actually knows the whole story. always loved the story of Arthas and how he was never truly evil (until he got corrupted). just misguided in his neverending quest to do his best, which lead to him making bad decisions to try and do right by his people. which allowed him to be corrupted.
a good example is when the light started leaving him. after the culling of stratholme, Arthas was conflicted about his actions, weakening his connection to the light. cause the light actually doesn't care what the fuck you do, it cares about only 1 thing: your conviction and that you truly believe you're doing the right thing. (ending in Arthas needing more power to avenge his people, using frostmourne, slowly getting corrupted by frostmourne.. yada yada , arthas becomes the lich king)
anyways awesome to see a good retelling of his story :p
Shadowlands isn't cannon as far as i'm concerned, feels like butthurt writers that hate that the whole playerbase still loved WotLK more than any shit they wrote, so they wanted to 'claim it' by pushing their stamp on it or something? destroying an awesome story by doing it... so hell no, shadowlands was a fever dream, not a canon part of the story for me.
I still don't understand why Blizz didn't choose this story for their first movie. like, sure, a lot of moving parts. but the current warcraft movie also started fairly randomly instead of being the start of it all (which might lead into a series of movies, which would've made a lot more hype). if they'd intended to pick a random interesting part of the warcraft universe to start their first movie, then the story of Arthas would've been crazy hyped and (as long as they'd keep it somewhat faithful to the real story) would up the hype for more movies.
hell they could do the star wars thing and make a few prequels to showcase the rest of the lore before the lich king xP
I’ve missed your videos! Always a great time!
What a great video. Just another masterpiece at your channels collection.
The wrestling match between Arthas and Illidan had me absolutely dieing hahah
My thought is that arthas might not have turned into the LK if Uther and jania would have supported him at Stratholme. If you think about it how would you know who was infected and wasn't. Can't really take a chance. The few outweigh the many.
He also might not have turned into the LK if Uther had just given him a good backhand with all his weight behind it, too.
@@TheShaofThirst yea cause that makes sense.
@@TheShaofThirst Right. Uther kind of just lets him do it. Because what? he is a Prince? Grab the kids ear and drag his ass back to dad and jail him for like ya know? trying to cull a whole city of innocent people? lmfaoo
Really enjoy your videos
just got off from nightshift and my weekend has started, i should be sleeping but platinum blesses my start to the weekend with this
Arthas' storyline is not only the best in WoW, but possibly one of the best in all of gaming. Nothing will come close anytime soon...
There's plenty of better stories out there, he's just fantasy darth Vader
@@JJJBunney001 He is iconic but I bet there are better characters with more complex stories. He's a badass and people will remember him as such.
i love him but surely there are dozens if not hundreds of better stories in video game
Arthas was born 6 years before the opening Dark Portal as in the Arthas book he’s 9 years old when the Alliance is formed which happens in Year 3 going into Year 4 meaning that he had to be born 6 years before the Opening of the Dark Portal
There’s a lot of weird continuity in the book itself when it comes to ages and world events which doesn’t line up with the timeline but this is all based on the WoWpedia Timeline which I trust as the main source when basing WoW game canon timescale and my own reading of the Warcraft books
Sorry don’t mean to sound obnoxious:’)))) just my inner nerd speaking out, I’m too passionate about the lore lol
Just dicovered this channel a while ago and I love it. Perfect to catch up with the older lore I dont know about.
I have a question , maybe someone can answer it. Why was Nerzhuls spirit in the Lich King armor?
Love your videos! Thank you!
Arthas ~ Abandoned by mentors and friends over a utilitarianism approach to a plague of undeath, isolating him, ensuring the dreadlord's grip on his mind. He had to do it all alone because others left him no choice, so power he craved for good reasons, but also vengeance. Uther sealed his fate twice. Failing to grasp the severity of the situation and the desperate measures needed to overcome it, he abandoned his apprentice to deal with it alone, ironically dying to him later as a long overdue consequence to that single moment, and then later condemning him in the afterlife, preventing any hope of redemption over actions that can be said to no longer be his own willfully committed acts, or his soul is so twisted, that only his worst attributes really remained, which can hardly be considered Arthas anymore, but just a husk made of his imperfections. He may as well have cemented Jaina's position on the issue by sticking stubbornly to a morality that would've doomed them all.
Uther is to blame.
Childish. Uther didnt told Arthas to cull Stratholme. Uther didnt told Arthas to betray his men at Northrend and to take up Frostmourne.
Arthas's actions were 100% his own and I dont like that youre tryung to shift agency and blame into somebody else. Thats the way Blizzard writers think, especially with how they mistreated characters like Sylvanas.
Almost all vids on Arthas are very serious and grim. You manage to make it interesting and worth investing in yet hillarious and light.
Heck yeah new platinum wow vid it’s already my favorite video and I haven’t seen it yet.
I hope Platinum WoW knows that we apreciate this work of his so much thank you for making amazing content to watch
Arthas worst crime was not killing his father, Uther or his people but turning Sylvanas into a banshee. He is responsible for the creation of the single worst character in the entire Warcraft universe.
worth for all that simp money o7
Only bad at Legion and beyond, before that she was great.
Quick note, according to the Rise of the Lich King novel, Uther actually was getting the upper hand in the fight between him and Arthas. Ner'zhul has to interfere personally, taking control of the body of Arthas through Frostmourne and strengthening him in order to turn the tables.
i love your videos! could you possibly make a video about Sylvanas story?
I know his story in and out and i watch your vid anyway, thats how awesome this Charakter and his Story is. And let us not forget who have put this vid together :p nice work, like always :D
I do wish Sylvanas had had more of a role in defeating the Litch King, but I am glad they never tried to correct that. A storyline that contrived some reason for her to meet him again would likely have been almost as forced as a storyline in which Sylvanas decided to work for the person who granted Arthas the power to enthrall her because that guy could predict the future. Good thing that didn't happen, and Sylvanas just retired in the Revenge of the Old Gods expansion.
What the actual fuck did they do Arthas in Shadowlands?Thank god I dident play it at all.They tured an badass villan in to a blue fart cloud.Also what is that french fries crown that was made from the iconic Helm of Domination.Its like they purposfully runied the Lich Kings legacy
I love your content man, please keep it up
The timing of this is amazing, I just finished the book, which I would recommend reading btw!!
Amazing video!
great video once again!
Platinum Wow truly is too good for warcraft
I would go as far as too say that Arthas is a character that rivals Darth vader. Both are fallen heroes who strayed from the light trying to do good, both betrayed their master, both regretted it in the end
I surmise Arthas was inspired by Anakin.
Legion: gave us more of Illidan, added context, gave him a worthy send off "for now".
Shadowlands: butchered Arthas
This was awesome😂I love the wrestling bit!
I’m a simple man. I see the story of Arthas Menethil, I weep for Lordaeron.
Arthas did nothing wrong. He made a decision only a king could make.
If you're talking about Stratholme then yes. It was the only solution
He did nothing wrong until he picked up frostmourne and his mind was totally corrupted and he turned into a murder machine.
Stratholme Uther was just being a pussy who couldn't make a difficult decision to end some lives that already lost save way more.
The hardest decisions require the strongest wills, so yeah
I wish the wow writters was brave enough to call out jaina and uther over their abandonment of Arthas and accept they was cowards at stratholme for running away.
There was more humans ways to achieve the same, I will say. But the important things are not really the actions, it was the mental state of Arthas.
YESSS! New content! ❤
18:58 Ah, who could forget the most poggers moment in Amani history.
If Arthus' horse is named Invincible, why can we see it?
Because Invincible and INVISIBLE are 2 completely different words.
Small correction on the Uther afterlife bit, the angels are actually explicitly not supposed to judge the souls they take, they just have to carry them to where they’d be judged. That’s why Uther breaking the rules was bad, even tho Arthas was likely gonna go to hell anyways it wasn’t Uther’s call to make
Edit: just wanted to add I don’t even necessarily hate the idea of how they sent off Arthas. It *could* have been a really nice meta moment where Arthas was literally milked dry to the point of being ruined, and it could have been a sign that they were going to be moving forward and not rehashing old ideas forever.
The issue is that it came at the tail end of an expansion who’s story was all over the place and felt abridged, resulting in this just feeling like they had no idea how to actually fit Arthas into the story and using this as a kind of cop-out to avoid undermining the character they kind of forced themselves to use.
I always thought he'd hit Vampireland, due to him avenging his own pride more than his people, and then sacrificing his humanity to enhance his ego.
the worst thing they did was having nobody except sylvanas say anything to him, who just ended up shit talking him, when her actions were 1. just as horrible and 2. uther and jaina had much more of an actual reason to say something but they said nothing.
@@lordstarscreamy329 that definitely also has to do with it
Uther I can kind of understand because he had an entire arc discussing his grief in the expansion, but it still would have been nice for him to get his chance to say “I’m sorry, I should have done more, as your mentor I owed you that much” in person (or as close to in person as he could get). Jains was baffling though, they grew up fairly close as the children of prominent leaders, and while Jaina *technically* had moments to deal with it in game, that was so long ago and she had been through so much since then. She really deserved a chance to express her thoughts one last time to her first love, and the man who shaped much of her life.
Arthas telling the paladin "Ligma balls" and blowing him up is the most accurate thing
Great stuff as always Platinum WoW!
You forget the part where they retconned the "Now... We are one!" scene in a book and instead had Arthas fight Ner'zhul in a mental battle for control of his body eventually destroying Ner'zhuls soul.
Why? I don't fucking know! Honestly just ruins one of the most iconic moments of Warcraft.