a couple things right off the bat, the framerate of this youtube video is 24, just right click and select "stats for nerds" to get the info. Another thing, If you're shooting at 24fps you want to set your shutter at 48, not 50. If you set it at 50, every 48 frames you will have a couple of half exposed frames, and you will have a ton of rolling shutter. If you camera only allows 50 shuter, shoot at 25fps.
What a fantastic and clear tutorial on the benefits of both 24fps and 60... You have a gift mate. Really excellent and easy to understand. Only watched this one episode...but have now subbed to the channel. Brilliant 🙌
Try shooting 60fps at 1/60th second shutter. You get the smoothness of 60fps plus close to motion blur of 24. (Actually, same motion blur as 30fps footage)
I am a content creator , photographer, videographer and a drone pilot from GHANA. I love your explanation and I have subscribed. Your presentation was great and helpful. Thank You
Thanks for the clear explination. I was looking for why my video editor (ClipChamp) was taking forever to load videos shot from my GoPro and loaded videos from my old digital camera real quick. Looking through the details the camera native fps was 30, gopro was set at 60. Looking at previous videos from my gopro after being run though ClipChamp they're all set at 30fps, must be converting it from 60 to 30 while loading so it takes forever. Everythings shot in 1080P and output the same so I knew it wasn't that. No point in filming 60 if the program converts to 30 and now I know the difference between the 2, I have no need for slow mo, so you my friend just saved me hours of waiting to edit my biking videos
Dude, really really awesome advice. Thank you! I finally understand the difference between 24 frames per second and 60 frames per second for cinematic. Ugh I wish I had known this sooner.
Hey I believe the "The eye sees at 24fps" fact is wrong or am I the one who didn't understood correctly? Also, thank you for the content. Looks great, specially the room set up and colors.
Here in the USA, I shoot 60p 60p on a 30p timeline. Because I am kind of a "Run & Gun" filmmaker, this gives me the option to use normal speed or slow it down 50%.
@@Yoko.Kurama compare a normal movie vs their bluray version, you could see that bluray is smooth like taken from a home video cam, because they double the frame rate and enhanced it, you could actually differentiate from your naked eye if it's 24fps or 60fps, since your normal view as a human is close to 24fps, that's why you see a blur effect when someone is fast. or maybe you just don't get the point between 60fps vs 24fps lol
WOW. Very helpful video Jayden. I've been shooting everything at 4K/60fps due to the simplicity of it. Now I actually know the difference and for what shots they should be used. Great informative video. Gave it a like and sub fosho. Thanks.
hey bro, nice work you are doing . i am wondering if you could make a video on how you plan you shots for example on what software you do it and the thought process ? ( excel or etc) it will be really helpful. thanks
thanks Jayden, you just gained another subscriber ! :) I got a question - I want to film real estate and make some of these "speed ramps" should I shoot in 24 or 60 ? I tried 60 and slow motion was great however speed ramp did look weird..
Thanks for the explanation Jayden! So you reckon that shooting 60fps and dragging into a 24fps timeline doesn't have the same cinematic quality as if you were to shoot at 24fps to being with, right? I wonder if there are any plugins for Premiere that can simulate the motion blur of 24fps on footage that was shot at 60fps (but placed on a 24fps timeline)?
You can play with shutter speed that brings in blur to every frame of 60p. If you do that, software can extract 24 frames for each second and present those. Convincingly. It's a good way to remove that soap-opera fluidity.
Jayden.....I Love You Matie.........only now that i undrstand...this meaning........you what....I get crazy.......on how to fix my camera nikon z5........every time I shut the movie....always slow motion........and I am very prostrated....but in your explanation....I am now clear and undrstand to adjust...my camera to correct fps.....thank you you again Mate......kind regards rikki here in Australia
As always, really good and useful stuff coming out of this channel. I was wondering, what's the name of the software you are using to create the shot list and details-the one you showed in your video?
'Every frame rate should be used as a tool to serve your purpose to tell your story in a particular video or "scene"....bingo. Movie makers know and live by this rule, from what I'm learning.
60fps all the time is less headache than combining different frame rates. Hopefully AI will make this process simpler to combine frame rates in the near future.
Wouldn’t it be better to use 30fps instead of 24fps if you want to combine it with 60fps clips? 60fps clips can drop into a 30fps timeline evenly. If you try to drop 60fps into a 24fps timeline, you’d get uneven dropped frames, which might be contributing to the jitteriness. I don’t really know, I just mess with video as a hobby. But it seems like 30fps and 60fps would be more compatible than 24fps.
Thank you for your video Jayden, it was very well made and very informative, what would you recommend for a music video? would 24FPS be a a good choice?
Usually young people like 60 fps more then 24, but just because it is feels like high tech new sheet. Anyway, the end of the day, 24 fps is feels much more natural and more easier to watch. For me 60 fps or higher is better at Cod or some games for sure. For movie? No way!
I think, to make cinematic videos, yes. 60fps for slowdown, 24 for crispines. But i tested about vloging, 24fps is badddd, very bad. I will stay on 60fps.
🤷🏽♂️ How bad ? ... Confusing 😅 There is a lot of factors: - First thing, there is capture framerate and timeline framerate, if you shoot 24fps on a 30fps or 60fps timeline, it could look very bad indeed xD Make sure to shoot your A-Roll in the same framerate than you edit and it should be mostly okay ;) - Framerate is connected to shutter speed... The standard motion blur that we are all use to love is 180° rule, so twice your framerate. 24fps - 1/50 shutter, 30fps - 1/60, 60fps - 1/120 etc If you are above, it's choppy, if you are under it's blurry... If you are in auto, probably your camera went above in daylight situations (use ND filter) or below in low light situation (adjust isos or add lights). But that's actually an advantage of 24fps, you can get more light in ;) - 30fps is traditionnaly used for documentary, maybe that's a sweet spot, because vlog don't really have to be cinematic, but at the end it depend the framerate you'll export on :/ The important rule here is, don't put videos that are shots in lower framerate than your edit ^^ If you shoot 30fps, fine, if your slowmo are multiples of 30 (60fps = 2 times, 120fps is 4 times) it's fine. But for sure 24 works if you do it properly ;)
Thank you so much for this. I've been shooting for a year now only on 120fps and 60fps. Just started trying out 24fps. So I can mix them all together. What program do you use to plan shoots. The one in the intro?
I shoot in 25fps for realtime because if you use 24fps you will get judder when watched on many devices that cannot display 24p natively and must use 3:2 pulldown. Video judder looks horrible, so I will do anything to avoid seeing this.
Thanks Chris!! Aren’t we all, but trust me once you shoot 24fps for vlogs etc it’ll be a game changer! Just make sure you’re using the 180* degree rule!
For the shutter speed can you go higher then double of the frames reason im asking is outside when is bright i have to go much higher to expose the image
You can go higher but you will loose motion blur and you'll get a more "staccato" effect for moving objects and subjects and could looks a bit stuttery. For a better understanding of this side effects try by yourself some tests clips at various shutter speeds. You can also have some flickering if you have artificial lighting in your scene if you go above the power line frequency in your area. Usually multiples of your powerline refresh rate are okay. I.e.: Europe has 50hz power lines. 1/50s and multiples of that (1/100s) should avoid flickering, but it really depends on what light you have in the frame, if its LED, sodium, halogen, and so on. To keep your shutter speed low as well as the aperture you can use ND filters to limit the light entering your lens.
Весьма странный вывод снимать всё в 24 к/с. В случае с кино этот выбор обоснован, поскольку это съёмка постановки актёрской игры и более высокий фреймрейт позволит нам увидеть больше чем нам позволено увидеть, тем самым разрушив иллюзию сказки. Блюр и вся эта мазня в движении как раз и создают нам ту самую магию кино. Но говорить о том, что 24 к/с дают нам наиболее реалистичную картинку -- неправильно! Эффект "каши" в которую превращается главный герой, быстро взбегающий по лестнице или машущий руками в драке, -- далёк от действительности! Как бы быстро ни двигался человек, наш глаз разглядит намного больше деталей чем камера снимающая его на 24 fps. Малая частота кадров и длинные выдержки нужны лишь для художественных целей, для всех остальных случаев это просто не нужно. Да, 60 к/с требуют больше места и мощность компьютера при монтаже, но разница в комфорте для глаз между 24 к/с и 60 к/с колоссальная! И она заметна не только в динамичных сюжетах, но и при сценах спокойных диалогов нескольких людей. А уж про съёмки панорам я и вовсе молчу, на 24 к/с это просто невозможно без желания вырвать себе глаза. Спасибо за внимание.
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a couple things right off the bat, the framerate of this youtube video is 24, just right click and select "stats for nerds" to get the info. Another thing, If you're shooting at 24fps you want to set your shutter at 48, not 50. If you set it at 50, every 48 frames you will have a couple of half exposed frames, and you will have a ton of rolling shutter. If you camera only allows 50 shuter, shoot at 25fps.
What a fantastic and clear tutorial on the benefits of both 24fps and 60...
You have a gift mate. Really excellent and easy to understand.
Only watched this one episode...but have now subbed to the channel.
Brilliant 🙌
I've often thought about 60fps in real time and then you'd have to shoot 120 fps and slow by 50% to get slow motion on that 60fps real time
Try shooting 60fps at 1/60th second shutter. You get the smoothness of 60fps plus close to motion blur of 24. (Actually, same motion blur as 30fps footage)
For me the answer to the question is often answered by, “how much light is there” and “how much data do I want to deal with”
I am a content creator , photographer, videographer and a drone pilot from GHANA. I love your explanation and I have subscribed. Your presentation was great and helpful. Thank You
Very helpful video, thanks. Which program are you using for making your schedule?
the b-roll and edits in this is too damn good OMFG
Thanks so much Whitney !! More to come for sure 🙏🏼
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Thanks for the clear explination. I was looking for why my video editor (ClipChamp) was taking forever to load videos shot from my GoPro and loaded videos from my old digital camera real quick. Looking through the details the camera native fps was 30, gopro was set at 60. Looking at previous videos from my gopro after being run though ClipChamp they're all set at 30fps, must be converting it from 60 to 30 while loading so it takes forever. Everythings shot in 1080P and output the same so I knew it wasn't that. No point in filming 60 if the program converts to 30 and now I know the difference between the 2, I have no need for slow mo, so you my friend just saved me hours of waiting to edit my biking videos
Dude, really really awesome advice. Thank you! I finally understand the difference between 24 frames per second and 60 frames per second for cinematic. Ugh I wish I had known this sooner.
24fps looks action packed and 60fps is for everything else
Knowledge with quality.. 🔥🔥🔥
Bro u answered all my questions.. tanks .. cheers from LA
This is by far the best explanation I've come across on RUclips. Clear and concise.
Thank you,
I love this video, thank you for posting it.
Great video Jayden, Thank you for the exposition. Is it possible for you to also share that shortlist template, I'd appreciate it
SUBSCRIBED! Love the aesthetic! Kudos!
Hey I believe the "The eye sees at 24fps" fact is wrong or am I the one who didn't understood correctly? Also, thank you for the content. Looks great, specially the room set up and colors.
Here in the USA, I shoot 60p 60p on a 30p timeline. Because I am kind of a "Run & Gun" filmmaker, this gives me the option to use normal speed or slow it down 50%.
So if you’re shooting at 60fps do you slow down in post or just create the sequence at 24fps?
60fps for real time looks so much smoother and detailed than 24fps.
24fps is like movies that you watch on your tv, 60fps are bluray versions.
@@Ric-lg6pg that's false. blu ray use low fps too... Blu ray is just a disc that has more storage than a DVD and uses higher resolution
@@Yoko.Kurama compare a normal movie vs their bluray version, you could see that bluray is smooth like taken from a home video cam, because they double the frame rate and enhanced it, you could actually differentiate from your naked eye if it's 24fps or 60fps, since your normal view as a human is close to 24fps, that's why you see a blur effect when someone is fast. or maybe you just don't get the point between 60fps vs 24fps lol
60fps is shit for cinematic experience
@@ashadowintime7305 not really. it’s just that our brain is used to 24 for cine
this guy knows what he's talking about, really professional, you just gained a subscriber
Love the information on this one!! 👏🏻
Thanks Priscilia! Looking forward to your new videos!
The explanation from your experience was very helpful. Happy New Year!
as easy as that...the most simple yet precise tutorial about frame rates....
Hey, quick question, what program are you using to plan out your shots?
It’s called Notion
Thank you bro, such an incredible tips!
WOW. Very helpful video Jayden. I've been shooting everything at 4K/60fps due to the simplicity of it. Now I actually know the difference and for what shots they should be used. Great informative video. Gave it a like and sub fosho. Thanks.
Mint video!! I was wondering what's that planner you use when entering framerates / shots etc?
Shooting at 60fps the putting it into a 24fps timeline, when its time to render it, what frame rate should it be exported too?
Amazing video. What software you use for your planning?
id like to know this too
Love the Video Jayden! Keep up the good work!
Thanks Jamie! 🙏🏼
But why do I have to have a 24 frame rate timeline to begin with? I can shoot 60 and have a 60 fps timeline? Then no jitter
The best video ever !
you have the gift to explain difficult things haha !!
congrats for the video.💛
Love the video mate! Myself starting to jump into video, this has been a big help!
Thanks Legend! Can’t wait to see what you do in the video world!! 🙏🏼
Very nicely put together video
hey bro, nice work you are doing . i am wondering if you could make a video on how you plan you shots for example on what software you do it and the thought process ? ( excel or etc) it will be really helpful. thanks
Super helpful video! What software are you using for your shotlists?
I use Notion!
I was looking for this comment :P
Wow, it does look more versatile than Taskade 🤔
"My computer turned off". Nice touch.
❤ Thank you
You just answered a bunch of questions for me ~ thanks!
Really good video, thanks
Awesome video! where do you plan your shots?
Notion!
The intro music is fantastic, can you please share the full track ?
Awesome video! Thanks!
After Life Records wallpaper looks so cool
Yeww! Thanks
Loving the new setup mate! Looks epic! Keep it coming 👌
Thanks Stevie! Always appreciate the support ❤️
very informative
Just getting started and im so glad i found your video! Nice Work!
Thank You for the thorough explanation.
thanks Jayden, you just gained another subscriber ! :) I got a question - I want to film real estate and make some of these "speed ramps" should I shoot in 24 or 60 ? I tried 60 and slow motion was great however speed ramp did look weird..
Great video thank you!
Thanks what an amazing video
Thank you 🙂 What software are you using to plan your work? Thank you so much! 🙏
That’s what I want to know !!!!!
Notion
Thanks for the video. Really helpful. Can you tell me what the planner is that you’re using in this video to plan your shots? Looks really handy.
I just instantly subscribed when you said you are from Australia 😅
Thanks man !! it was helpful
Thanks for the explanation Jayden!
So you reckon that shooting 60fps and dragging into a 24fps timeline doesn't have the same cinematic quality as if you were to shoot at 24fps to being with, right?
I wonder if there are any plugins for Premiere that can simulate the motion blur of 24fps on footage that was shot at 60fps (but placed on a 24fps timeline)?
You can play with shutter speed that brings in blur to every frame of 60p. If you do that, software can extract 24 frames for each second and present those. Convincingly. It's a good way to remove that soap-opera fluidity.
Fantastic video man! Would you recommend shooting slowmo one your camera or doing it all post production?
Jayden.....I Love You Matie.........only now that i undrstand...this meaning........you what....I get crazy.......on how to fix my camera nikon z5........every time I shut the movie....always slow motion........and I am very prostrated....but in your explanation....I am now clear and undrstand to adjust...my camera to correct fps.....thank you you again Mate......kind regards
rikki here in Australia
Bellissimo video, molto utile, ISCRITTO e lasciato like! Thank you man!
Unrelated question...what kind of spreadsheet / software were you using in 0:36?
What software was showing in the background
Notion
As always, really good and useful stuff coming out of this channel. I was wondering, what's the name of the software you are using to create the shot list and details-the one you showed in your video?
All our phones, tablets and monitors are 60 Hz so 30 or 60 fps is the way to go. 24 causes frame jumps visible as jitters.
Jayden whats the planning program you been using?
'Every frame rate should be used as a tool to serve your purpose to tell your story in a particular video or "scene"....bingo.
Movie makers know and live by this rule, from what I'm learning.
Interesting content buddy 😏👍🏽
But what if you're speeding it up? I get jerky pans when I speed up drone video ... or when I'm orbiting, etc.
Hey Jim nice video what you using for planning your shoots?
@Andrea Mangano thanks a lot ! :)
60fps all the time is less headache than combining different frame rates. Hopefully AI will make this process simpler to combine frame rates in the near future.
Wouldn’t it be better to use 30fps instead of 24fps if you want to combine it with 60fps clips? 60fps clips can drop into a 30fps timeline evenly. If you try to drop 60fps into a 24fps timeline, you’d get uneven dropped frames, which might be contributing to the jitteriness. I don’t really know, I just mess with video as a hobby. But it seems like 30fps and 60fps would be more compatible than 24fps.
Thank you for your video Jayden, it was very well made and very informative, what would you recommend for a music video? would 24FPS be a a good choice?
If you're shooting for live motion. Yes!
Usually young people like 60 fps more then 24, but just because it is feels like high tech new sheet. Anyway, the end of the day, 24 fps is feels much more natural and more easier to watch. For me 60 fps or higher is better at Cod or some games for sure. For movie? No way!
24fps helps also with low light conditions because it allows more light in vs 60
great content
Thank for the lesson ... please help how to edit those type of video bro ....
I thought in Australia 25fps was better because you use PAL
What software are you using to plan your shots? I saw it in some of the scenes.
Not sure, but it looks like it may be Notion with a template for planning video shots.
I think, to make cinematic videos, yes. 60fps for slowdown, 24 for crispines. But i tested about vloging, 24fps is badddd, very bad. I will stay on 60fps.
🤷🏽♂️ How bad ? ... Confusing 😅
There is a lot of factors:
- First thing, there is capture framerate and timeline framerate, if you shoot 24fps on a 30fps or 60fps timeline, it could look very bad indeed xD
Make sure to shoot your A-Roll in the same framerate than you edit and it should be mostly okay ;)
- Framerate is connected to shutter speed... The standard motion blur that we are all use to love is 180° rule, so twice your framerate. 24fps - 1/50 shutter, 30fps - 1/60, 60fps - 1/120 etc
If you are above, it's choppy, if you are under it's blurry...
If you are in auto, probably your camera went above in daylight situations (use ND filter) or below in low light situation (adjust isos or add lights). But that's actually an advantage of 24fps, you can get more light in ;)
- 30fps is traditionnaly used for documentary, maybe that's a sweet spot, because vlog don't really have to be cinematic, but at the end it depend the framerate you'll export on :/
The important rule here is, don't put videos that are shots in lower framerate than your edit ^^
If you shoot 30fps, fine, if your slowmo are multiples of 30 (60fps = 2 times, 120fps is 4 times) it's fine.
But for sure 24 works if you do it properly ;)
Have a look at this one if you didn't understand a thing of my previous comment ;)
ruclips.net/video/e6HZPmSlS5c/видео.html
@@TaoCovillaultAwesome explanation.
I will try this and get back if I have any questions. Thanks ❤
What software do you use to plan your shots out? I am just getting into content creation and this would help me out loads.
You sholud drop that Notion file as a template! I could use it haha
What Software did you use to list your shot list ?
Thanks
That’s what I want to know.
what was the shot list app you were using?
Thank you so much for this. I've been shooting for a year now only on 120fps and 60fps. Just started trying out 24fps. So I can mix them all together. What program do you use to plan shoots. The one in the intro?
Found it in the comments. Notion. Thank you again for this video.
Do you have a template of your shot list?
I use to use 30. But now it's 60 from now on. I want the option to slow down or speed up during editing. .
Nice wallpaper ! Afterlife record label 🔉
I shoot in 25fps for realtime because if you use 24fps you will get judder when watched on many devices that cannot display 24p natively and must use 3:2 pulldown. Video judder looks horrible, so I will do anything to avoid seeing this.
Thanks buddy!
Cool afterlife background
hey! what program are you using for your shot plan?
2:59 what program is that?
Super well put together dude! I am such a sucker for doing 60fps only but this has made me reconsider hahah solid video mate keep it up :)
Thanks Chris!! Aren’t we all, but trust me once you shoot 24fps for vlogs etc it’ll be a game changer! Just make sure you’re using the 180* degree rule!
I was told by adobe if I record at 24fps I should export at 59.94fps for better results
Thanks!
For the shutter speed can you go higher then double of the frames
reason im asking is outside when is bright i have to go much higher to expose the image
You can go higher but you will loose motion blur and you'll get a more "staccato" effect for moving objects and subjects and could looks a bit stuttery.
For a better understanding of this side effects try by yourself some tests clips at various shutter speeds.
You can also have some flickering if you have artificial lighting in your scene if you go above the power line frequency in your area.
Usually multiples of your powerline refresh rate are okay.
I.e.: Europe has 50hz power lines. 1/50s and multiples of that (1/100s) should avoid flickering, but it really depends on what light you have in the frame, if its LED, sodium, halogen, and so on.
To keep your shutter speed low as well as the aperture you can use ND filters to limit the light entering your lens.
Use an ND Filter! that will solve your problems
Thank you Jayden, May I please know which software you used for prep the Shotlist details in this video?
2:50 yeah because you did not use motion blur. You even mentioned the 180 shutter rule? That would be a 1/120 s shutter! I cant see that there!
Весьма странный вывод снимать всё в 24 к/с. В случае с кино этот выбор обоснован, поскольку это съёмка постановки актёрской игры и более высокий фреймрейт позволит нам увидеть больше чем нам позволено увидеть, тем самым разрушив иллюзию сказки. Блюр и вся эта мазня в движении как раз и создают нам ту самую магию кино. Но говорить о том, что 24 к/с дают нам наиболее реалистичную картинку -- неправильно! Эффект "каши" в которую превращается главный герой, быстро взбегающий по лестнице или машущий руками в драке, -- далёк от действительности! Как бы быстро ни двигался человек, наш глаз разглядит намного больше деталей чем камера снимающая его на 24 fps. Малая частота кадров и длинные выдержки нужны лишь для художественных целей, для всех остальных случаев это просто не нужно. Да, 60 к/с требуют больше места и мощность компьютера при монтаже, но разница в комфорте для глаз между 24 к/с и 60 к/с колоссальная! И она заметна не только в динамичных сюжетах, но и при сценах спокойных диалогов нескольких людей. А уж про съёмки панорам я и вовсе молчу, на 24 к/с это просто невозможно без желания вырвать себе глаза. Спасибо за внимание.
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