The Story Behind Burning Spear & Horsemouth's Epic Four Decade Feud

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  • Опубликовано: 14 июл 2023
  • Winston Rodney and Leroy "Horsemouth" Wallace were best friends and colleagues for a decade until a quarrel and brawl four decades ago broke their bond. This video traces the story of the unfortunate clash.
    #burningspear #horsemouth #reggae #jamaica

Комментарии • 107

  • @CleanFabCollective
    @CleanFabCollective Год назад +26

    My love and admiration for these legends, would’ve never allowed me to think they were capable of “beefing”. Please Horsey and Spear make up!

  • @LadyLegz35
    @LadyLegz35 Год назад +14

    Burning Spear in concert was ace. Love Winston Rodney's voice, it's so iconic ❤💛💚

    • @LadyLegz35
      @LadyLegz35 Год назад

      Blessed love always 💖

  • @normanbrown9225
    @normanbrown9225 Год назад +2

    DRUMMER HORSEMOUTH Is One Of My FAVOURITE PEOPLE HE PLAYED DRUMS ON ONE OF MY BIGGEST HITS.
    BIGUP ALL REGGAE LOVERS.❤

  • @theredroadeast723
    @theredroadeast723 Год назад +5

    Wow. I never knew about this feud. It's such a shame that egos broke up such a great group. Burning Spear has always been one of my favorites. Hopefully they can bury the hatchet.

  • @mrsplanetmaster9
    @mrsplanetmaster9 Год назад +4

    R.A.S. truly teaches us the history of reggae ..saw BSpear at least 12 times..he is my all time FAV‼🌞🌿🌿🙋🏻‍♀

  • @RR-kb2ks
    @RR-kb2ks Год назад +6

    Unfortunately these things do happen in the music world, rock, reggae, soul, RnB jazz, pop, many stories. Horsemouth is a great drummer. I have Burning Spear's Marcus Garvey album spinning and playing in the background, a definite classic, a musical treat, one I never tire of - Psalm 87:7 'As well the singers as the players on instruments shall be there: all my springs are in thee'. 🙏💪

  • @knish72
    @knish72 Год назад +5

    I cherish this channel man

  • @marcofacen9564
    @marcofacen9564 3 месяца назад +1

    I could not agree more. While... yes... I have seen Burning Spear live. And everyone who knows his live performances knows that he can "leave the track and the situation" for a time. This can work perfectly, especially if Spear is playing Nyabinghi drums. But maybe it got out of limits for once. And, agreed again... Everyone that pays attention to Spears interviews knows that he stands firm on what ever position he takes.
    A shame it ended this way!
    So, Horsemouth and Spear, remember. There are many fights, but only one peace

  • @GreenLionEntertainment
    @GreenLionEntertainment Год назад +11

    It would be nice to see them work together, now that Spear came out of retirement. Life is too short to hold grudges. 💪🏿

  • @rusticization
    @rusticization Год назад +11

    Thank you so much for sharing this unfortunate animosity between these 2 great musicians.
    Every time I hear Burning Spear's albums such as MARCUS GARVEY and MAN IN THE HILLS, I am always captivated by Leroy "Horsemouth" Wallace's background drumming.

  • @pellecarlsson8408
    @pellecarlsson8408 Год назад +6

    Hossie is my man! Burning Spear done good since, but the albums up to social living is on another level.

    • @RR-kb2ks
      @RR-kb2ks Год назад +3

      Yep, but you stopped one album short - Hail H.I.M, the album immediately after Social Living is excellent too, just like the ones prior to it.

  • @scottyallen650
    @scottyallen650 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great documentary 4real 2023 🔥

  • @lekeitown
    @lekeitown 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for all your job!!

  • @teebee4564
    @teebee4564 Год назад +5

    This was so interesting

  • @michelrood2966
    @michelrood2966 Год назад +4

    Both were wrong, now both could make it right.. My guess is they both are hard heads, stubborn.

  • @juanrivera2841
    @juanrivera2841 10 месяцев назад +1

    YOUR RESEARCH IS ALWAYS ON POINT, GOOD WORK.
    VIRGIN ISLANDS PEACE ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

  • @djtricks1
    @djtricks1 Год назад +2

    Wow.. RAS..there's always drama..fortunately, i still luv Buring Spear ..especially cause it reminds me of my youth days ..tbh if you're an artist..just be solo..lol ,cause so many band's split up over.."whatever!!" (not all) but when the money starts rolling in ..the fun stops! ..& the ego's get bigger! Big Up Ras! 🌞🌴

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat Год назад

      It's supposed to be a spiritual thing not egotistical thing..render your heart..

  • @MsWildberry1
    @MsWildberry1 Год назад +3

    Hope they can move on and come back together from what appears to not be a valid enough reason to interfere with a once solid friendship. Much thanks Reggae Appreciation Society 🎼💫🎼

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia Год назад +2

    Always glad to see a new video from you, thanks as always! I've seen Burning Spear live, they put on an amazing show.

  • @HITILIT
    @HITILIT 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’d heard of this falling out from other content but had never heard a real complete story to help me understand the situation. I certainly have had my own falling outs with different people in my past and though I don’t concern myself with finding resolutions, I wonder if those two will or not. So much good detail in such a concise video. I never pass up a chance to watch your latest posts.

  • @carlosporras4951
    @carlosporras4951 Год назад +1

    Desdé Malaga 🇪🇦 con ❤ para mi entra en los tres mejores del reggae roots auténtico 🇯🇲💯

  • @joseywales802
    @joseywales802 Год назад +4

    Do a story on dirty harry would love to know what happened to him

  • @albertchigoche727
    @albertchigoche727 11 месяцев назад +2

    They were never true friends in the first place!!

  • @suzgojoe5607
    @suzgojoe5607 Год назад +1

    Truly these Greats should make up. We just love the

  • @dexocube
    @dexocube 11 месяцев назад +1

    Always sad to lose a friend.

  • @pauldefleuriot196
    @pauldefleuriot196 Год назад +1

    Black Soul on Live is untouchable genius by Mr. Winston Rodney

  • @fredericocr1
    @fredericocr1 Год назад +1

    It would be a nice gesture if Winston helped Horsemouth financially and make piece with him.

  • @supremegpc
    @supremegpc 7 месяцев назад

    W😮w one would never know by the movie Rockers that Spear and Horsey had beef 🥩

  • @fredericocr1
    @fredericocr1 Год назад

    Winston Rodney is my favourite artist of all time, from all types of art. But the art and the man are 2 different things.

  • @keezeeroots5997
    @keezeeroots5997 11 месяцев назад

    The first time I saw Burning Spear in concert was at the 10th Annual Reggae Sunsplash in Mo'Bay, Jamaica in 1987. Has anyone ever heard a live version of the song Mister Garvey?

  • @underflo43tky
    @underflo43tky Год назад +1

    marcus garvey / garveys ghost epic stuff

  • @normanbrown9225
    @normanbrown9225 Год назад +1

    EGO AND JEALOUSY CAN TEST ANY FRIENDSHIP.😢 BUT U GOTTA KNOW Ur SELF.

  • @tonypassos5941
    @tonypassos5941 Год назад +1

    Interesting history, I know that Burning Spear played with Monyaka in 1978 in USA tour, probably the beef between the two had already happen, and before this the two backing vocals let the group too, in 1977 for example on oficial album Live the drummer was Drummie Zeb Gaye from Aswad, but really I did not know about the struggle with Horsemouth, also I always wanted know who was the drummer in that legendary SS79 show that Bingy Bunny played guitar very young, if you know....Bless!

  • @MustangBoss1973
    @MustangBoss1973 Год назад +1

    Hello, another great video thank you.
    I was trying to look through the archives, have you done any videos on the Abyssinians?
    Regards
    Richard

    • @ReggaeAppreciationSociety
      @ReggaeAppreciationSociety  Год назад +1

      I haven't done one on the Abyssinians but it's an excellent suggestion. Will work on it

  • @O.G.SonnyBlaco
    @O.G.SonnyBlaco Год назад +1

    EXCELLENT WRK!!!

  • @jamesking4110
    @jamesking4110 Год назад +2

    How you can travel from town to country with food usualy the other way round.

    • @thenowchurch6419
      @thenowchurch6419 Год назад +1

      Sometimes in the country the crops nah harvest right but town will always have food a market.

  • @oliverfrancis8350
    @oliverfrancis8350 Год назад +1

    Them need to resolved this as Rasta MAN

  • @user-ii5dc6lr8c
    @user-ii5dc6lr8c 6 месяцев назад

    never run away, he sings.. but Spear leave out Jamaica and reach foreign long time...

  • @mathamatix582
    @mathamatix582 Год назад

    Im a huge Burning Spear fan but I haven't heard any good things about Burning Spear's character.

  • @thechief8694
    @thechief8694 Год назад +1

    Wow 😮

  • @thenowchurch6419
    @thenowchurch6419 Год назад +6

    There has to be more to the story.
    Horsey getting vex because Spear did not sing in rehearsal is not a viable reason to get so upset and Spear tearing up the man's boot is way too much.
    I suspect Horsey was maybe just a little jealous of Spear's success by that point and felt that he was not getting a fair share form Spear.
    Keep the videos coming star.

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat Год назад

      Or maybe spear was going on like this for a while and reach a point man had to draw him out. Either way it's speculations and if you don't know best you shut up

    • @thenowchurch6419
      @thenowchurch6419 Год назад +1

      @@nyakwarObat There is no law against speculating bro.
      Since when did you become a censor to tell people to shut up?

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat Год назад +1

      @@thenowchurch6419 I apologise for bruising your ego with reality. I will say it again, when you don't know something is best to admit you don't and 🤐. You can speculate all you want in your head if you love mental drama but don't vomit it unless you have facts.

    • @thenowchurch6419
      @thenowchurch6419 Год назад +1

      @@nyakwarObat Where did I claim or indicate I was spouting facts?
      Are you for real bro?
      The whole video and your comment is all speculation.
      Why is my comment any different?

    • @OloRishaCreole504
      @OloRishaCreole504 Год назад

      I hear more bad mind things against the star than horsemouth

  • @ggilestate
    @ggilestate Год назад +3

    Horse Mouth crossed the line two times by berating the star and then punching the star again! There is no coming back from that ever!

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat Год назад +2

      Calm yuself dung. You no know the whole story

    • @OloRishaCreole504
      @OloRishaCreole504 Год назад

      The star should teach everyone as a human being an not berating MAN..eventually u get fed up..lastly Horsemouth stated..the star tore 1 of his boots because he played with 1 only when on drum...no matter who u are..no man better than the next

    • @ggilestate
      @ggilestate Год назад +2

      @@OloRishaCreole504 It could have been a teachable moment for Horse Mouth to recognize that Spear was the star AND his boss whether he was his friend or not. Spear was too upset to teach him and reacted in anger which was wrong but Horse Mouth would have been fired either way!
      Tearing his boot was wrong but that was anger showing it’s ugly head. To your point that no man is better than no man’ that maybe true but what is also true is that in life there is a food chain and if a person doesn’t know their place on that chain they will get eaten! You simply don’t stop a star who is your boss mid song and being upset tell him how to perform!
      Burning Spear was on the top on the food chain as he still is today that’s why he is being celebrated as one of the greats! So to that point…..he IS better than Horse Mouth.
      Horse Mouth is no Sly Dunbar he is only a drummer. A person has to be humble in this business to survive.
      When Peter Tosh cursed off Sly Dunbar for rolling the drum while he was talking to the crowd Sly and Robbie fired Peter Tosh and left him! That’s a higher level of talent working as they were on top of the creative food chain as well as Peter! Respect

    • @ggilestate
      @ggilestate 11 месяцев назад

      @@nyakwarObat At the end of the day every man is equal in the eyes of God but in real life a star who is also your boss is always right. If yuh have a disagreement simply talk it out or leave.

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat 11 месяцев назад

      @@ggilestate a fuckery you a chat, you star bedazzled and dazed, you also sound like you love kiss arse. Don't matter if you a star, if you claim you a rasta and a defend righteousness you must be an example, not swell up your head with ego. A wah do some man yah

  • @haileselassie5735
    @haileselassie5735 Год назад

    Interesting

  • @ajibolaabiodun8725
    @ajibolaabiodun8725 Год назад +1

    Ease up Soldiers of his Majesty.Practice what you preach.

    • @thenowchurch6419
      @thenowchurch6419 Год назад +1

      Rasta should not be beefing with Rasta.

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat Год назад

      ​@@thenowchurch6419wait till your hear the black uhuru saga

    • @thenowchurch6419
      @thenowchurch6419 Год назад

      @@nyakwarObat I know about the Black Uhuru saga. Nuff chaos.

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat Год назад

      @@thenowchurch6419 man was lacking the steadfastness still. Spiritually, you can touch the twilight zone but maintain that touch is a different matter

    • @thenowchurch6419
      @thenowchurch6419 Год назад

      @@nyakwarObat True.

  • @ryanenglish964
    @ryanenglish964 Год назад

    Rockers my favorite movie of all time

  • @fredericocr1
    @fredericocr1 Год назад

    Imagine Horsemouth in Paris, in South Africa, in Montreaux....

  • @staminadon
    @staminadon Год назад +1

    Spear a warrior him not going to do that Ahope them can buried those bad vibes bun a spliff and hold a vibe

  • @jonathanbarnes7641
    @jonathanbarnes7641 Год назад

    Can you please do a video about Terror Fabulous he’s one of the best dancehall artists of all time and then his career took a nose dive by the late 90’s!

    • @jonathanbarnes7641
      @jonathanbarnes7641 Год назад

      He had a great run then just disappeared and went into seclusion. I hope he gets a second run eventually sometime soon fingers crossed 🤞🏾!

  • @hennyverheij5969
    @hennyverheij5969 Год назад

    It is a sad story really and i hope these two rastafarians are going to make it up 🖤💚💛❤🙏

  • @rohannestafari404
    @rohannestafari404 8 месяцев назад

    Both true Jamaican legends and true Rastaman. Nuff love and raspect, stop da arms house and fuckery

  • @felixmousandaji8936
    @felixmousandaji8936 Год назад

    i lyk the energy of horse mouth

  • @rommie4770
    @rommie4770 Год назад

    Jah nu dead ! Peace my brothers miss overstaying is the problem here. Peace my Afrikan brothers let’s burn this problem that divide us so peace can reign once more.✡️🙏🏿
    🔴🟡🟢

  • @robertmathurin739
    @robertmathurin739 Год назад

    Blessed Love,, Rastafari 🇱🇨👊🏼🇯🇲👍🏼♥️🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯☝🏻

  • @jimsliverootsculturemusic
    @jimsliverootsculturemusic Год назад

    It's time to let bygones be bygones.

  • @themadsamplist
    @themadsamplist Год назад +1

    I am the herb vendor

  • @jeffcee9457
    @jeffcee9457 Год назад

    I thing that Spare should send horse mouth a new pair of boots because he is on hard times now.

  • @AlainPierrelouis-lu2hh
    @AlainPierrelouis-lu2hh Год назад

    He always mentioned Marcus Garvey in his songs.Not HAILE SALASIE

  • @SPEAKYOURTRUTH77
    @SPEAKYOURTRUTH77 Год назад

    JAH Bless ❤💛💚🫡🌻🙏🏽

  • @ikhowaka1471
    @ikhowaka1471 Год назад +1

    Spear and horse for Jah's sake...let's get together and love one another .

  • @TheAnnaFisher
    @TheAnnaFisher Год назад

    Apprecialove, they are two of the most beautiful and talented individuals I have ever met. I love the solution, make them hemp or at least not off the back of an enslaved creature. 🫂❤️💛🖤💚🙏👏🥰🤣👑👑🎶🇯🇲⏳️✨️✨️🎤🪘🥁🥾👢🦬🐄🦁🦁🌎 #burningspear #horsemouthwallace #winstonrodney #leroywallace #epicreggaefeuds #reggaeappreciationsociety #reggaehistory #onelove

  • @stuckintha90s
    @stuckintha90s Год назад +1

    We still need to hear Burning Spear's own side of the story like the narrator said but truth is success can change ppl. Horsey shouldn't have done that though

  • @TheMightyKingzuru
    @TheMightyKingzuru Год назад

    Somehow, there was a chick involved.

  • @storytimewithunclekumaran5004
    @storytimewithunclekumaran5004 Год назад

    Mi beef long time .. Seen !!

  • @andreyviana504
    @andreyviana504 Год назад +2

    Evrrbody in reggae business know that is very hard to deal with Winston. He thinks he's the greatest one. He not only break up with Horsie but with all reggae musicians from J.A in the 80s.

    • @issavibez394
      @issavibez394 3 месяца назад

      Tell me why people dont like him whats so bad about him

    • @issavibez394
      @issavibez394 27 дней назад

      Why

    • @andreyviana504
      @andreyviana504 27 дней назад

      @@issavibez394 because he thinks that he is Mugabe

  • @staminadon
    @staminadon Год назад +1

    Milo and look rip 🪦 Winston alone left