Is It Possible To Fix Ryze? (How I Would Rework Him) | League of Legends
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Vars I think you should do a video on ability cooldown resets and how they differ from cooldown times. I think a easy example being something like irelia's Q.
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Support Nocturne. That sounds so interesting and so worrying at the same time.
What I'm imagining is that his ultimate is still the same but without the dash and a shorter cooldown. And then his Q now speeds other allies up as well. And his W can now be applied to allies like you would do with a Lulu shield. Idk if it'd be a good idea at all to do such a thing, or if it'd even slightly work. But that was what my mind made when he said support Nocturne lol
Nocturne’s ult can completely screw a team’s coordination, so it feels kinda support-y. Maybe if it was like a huge blast so that you couldn’t hit everyone at once during landing phase but u could in a team fight, and then he could let allies dash in with his Q
bruh, you can play support nocturne already lol
*nocturne ults*
*Sekiro Danger sound*
Paranoya and nightmare would be awesome on a support champion! I always thought that removing your enemies' vision feels more like support ability.
Ryze is easy to fix. Just give him an entirely different kit, class identity, and itemization path.
Basically just erase his existence then make a complete new champ and call him Ryze
@@MaidenlessScrub Hey I have seen this one.
@@MaidenlessScrub aartox players will relate
Call him Raayze an make him a Darkin
@@Kidwaizer ah yes the double A
One day Riot will update Ryze out of alpha and maybe finally we'll get a beta version of this very incomplete champion
Sigma all the way 🤣🤣🤣
People maybe don't have knowledge but rize is based on a hero from dota 1 called out world destroyer the hero main mechanic is scaling based on mana but the meme of the hero is the gets constantly rebalanced and is either useless or overpowered because they keep changing the hero around a lot, this still happens until today in dota 2 he went from a mid lane nuker into a support and now he is a insane carry that works based on a item , league developers just got inspiration from OD and went along with the meme, hope you learned something from this
You should make “why everyone shouldn’t play” and talk about why everyone plays popular champs then explain how to counter them and why they’re not necessarily the only choice. Like a lot of meta champs are only meta because so many people play them that they’re constantly finding the best kit for them, while other less played champs aren’t fully realized.
But dont the less played champs have a higher wr?
@@alex2005z yeah. because those who play them are good with those champions or even one tricks
@@maxhax367 thats my question. Why ask for a video on how to counter meta champs if they already dont do to well?
@@alex2005z They do well. That´s why they´re meta. But since they´re played more often, they have higher chances of losing. I gurantee you, if A.Sol suddenly got Yasuo´s playrate, his winrate would plummet easily 8% at the very least.
@@alex2005z You're kind of corelating things wrong: Win rate dosen't mean how effective a champ is, but how likely it is if any one person takes them into a game of equals, that they, using that given champ will get a win, if no one on their team feeds, griefs, or goes full moron.
Playrate being lower means the players use them less, winrate being lower in corelation with low playerate means the champ is weak. BUT a high winrate encompassed with a low playrate means that the champ is likely to be onetricked, and if there is a high play and winrate at play, that just means the champ is busted in a way, or has became a gimic win (no matter the outcome, if done well, will guarentee a win.)
Riot take notes
We're lacking our yearly ryze rework
Its ever other year ryze rework, so season 12 probably will have one
I need more of these, but like reworking champions with gameplays that are not fun to go against, i have a lot of ideas for a Yone rework that makes him finally fair
I feel like that doest go for all champs that are not fun to play against. For instance pantheon is supposed to be a lane bully and unfun againts on early game to compsensate for the fact he doesny scale
I usually just play yas against him
@@tolis19 except he’s really not unfun to play against tho since he has a clear weakness that you can exploit
@@ExiledSummoner pantheon is the biggest counter vs yas and yone
@@samseloo4962 true, Pantheon, Malphite, Riven are strong as well as anything that blocks AA's, like Shen, Jax and Teemo
As a Ryze main, I'm excited to open this xmas gift.
Do you remember times when you could build Rod of Ages on Ryze? Or when you got shield for landing abilities?
@@indrickboreale7381 Yes, I remember the RoA days, also, it wasn't by just landing spells, it was by doing 2 non-Q basic spells before Q.
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Well every employee at riot had their chance to rework ryze already, time to give vars a chance
just remove his ult as it currently is and turn it into a low cooldown combo ability. he feels far more appealing as a dedicated combo mage than a combo mage who can also teleport allied units. heck, they could return his shield on his R somehow and he'd feel better. they should double down on making him a hard to master combo mage who needs to learn specific combos for various situations. the best ryze players should be rewarded for knowing the various combos, like leblanc but more caster than assassin.
THAT WAS LITERALLY THE PREVIOUS RYZE XD
Ryze R just seems SO OUT OF PLACE for a MAGE to have.
Ryze R fits fits his lore. But previous Ryze R gave him spell vamp and cdr... Yeah they had to take that away
@@ogrynmod1765 Previous Ryze R gave him spell vamp and cdr. If we planned to made him a hard to master combo mage who needs to learn specific combos for various situations, we shouldn't make him a statchecking caster (assasin mage ?) or a drain mage, as we will back to that time where Conqueror was used on literally everything including mage/assasin, but this time only Ryze will be benefited.
@@IYPITWL He suggested changing R into a low cooldown combo ability that turn Ryze into a hard to master combo mage who needs to learn specific combos for various situations. Sure this time there will be no Omnivamp or even more ability haste as this ability itself have low cooldown.
I think a very important part of these videos going forward is taking into account the champions scaling and item builds. Often times their balancing issues come from the items they buy and how the abilities scale. In the case of Ryze for example his unique thing is scaling with mana which tends to be problematic historically, so you couldve mentioned what he builds now, Seraph/FH/Crown, etc and why it's problematic for an ap adc with crazy late game to essentially build like a bruiser, and mention how your rework would change their build, what you expect the champ to build or fix the issues of them still going for said builds.
I'm intrigued by this rework but considering how Riot designed most champions in recent years they would cut half of your ideas. It's just way too complicated. The biggest problem I see is that his abilities (mostly his Q) have multiple power stages and I cant see how opponents (especially those that have never (successfully) played this Ryze) have any idea what Ryze can do at any given moment. It's similar to Aphelios when his weapons werent shown on his health bar, but with no real way to fix it imo. Depending on his weapon choice Aphelios can only do so much stuff but it's clear for every player what that is before you have an encounter.
This Ryze version has 4 different outcomes alone on his Q:
- simple (AOE) damage without flux (aka tickling the opponent)
- increased (AOE) damage with flux
- empowered (AOE) damage with more speed, range and an execute
- empowered (super AOE) damage with more speed, range, execute and more damaging followup when flux was on the target
That's more or less 4 different scenarios when playing against Ryze that you have to consider. Does he deal little, moderate or high damage? Can I space properly or do I get hit by a longrange Q I wasnt prepared for? Can I tank the damage to go for a kill myself or do I die to the increased followup damage? Do I have to flash or Zonyas the Q because otherwise the damage spreads to my team? He keeps generating movementspeed on spellcasts but every time I see it the value of said increase differs.
I really like the concept of empowering abilities, but having 2 sources of empowerment in his Ult and Flux with different interactions between those gives too much variance to make any sense of this guy unless you are an OTP. It's even worse when you play against or with him and I dont see how UI is able to show you what Ryze is capable of before he can do it. Maybe he gets a 3rd ressource bar like Corki with 1 point for every 10 stacks of Arcane? Basically this version overcomplicates his kit and the only people understanding and utilizing it to a reasonable extent are high elo and pro players. In other words, this version brings us back to old problems (you remove his teleport ult to weaken him in proplay and give him an AOE root?).
The most important criticism aside, I dont understand why he needs 10 stacks for an empowered ability. The way I understand the rework it's about Ryze building up his own power spike window in the neutral game and then capitalizing on it. If that's the case how are you supposed to cast 10 spells before you can capitalize on it? It makes sense for laning phase and on sidelane but that destroys his teamfighting capabilities. The way I see it you want to have at least 10 stacks before you activate your Ult so you can cast your empowered Flux followed by Q for AOE or W for cc, but getting to those 10 stacks sounds very unreliable. I propose that you get 2 stacks on champion hit (maybe that was the idea from the start but I didnt get that from your explanation). Unless it's supposed to be "clunky" and Ryze isnt supposed to leave a lane and act as a splitpusher.
That being said, I appreciate the effort and encouragement to theorycraft in the comments. The AOE root sounds pretty cool and he retains his combo spellslinging identity and gains more depth. It's sad that I cant see a future where Ryze gets a similar treatment unless Riot treats him as a "proplay only champ".
Personally was thinking more of a Kayn Route and involving the World Runes and having him use it with 4 Diff stages in his Kit, Basically, have him do what he does now, but depending on what World Rune he has Changed his abilities in some manner
Maybe Buffing his Q but Nerfing his W, or Nerfing his Q and buffing the E in some shape or form
Making his W Omnivamp while Increasing the CD rate of his Q/E
Then depending on what World rune he uses Changes his Ultimate Completly but Does very little in the sense of what his ultimate does now, Yes it's a group teleport, but the range is very little compared to Twisted Fate
This was more my thought process it least
@@alsanthair7943 If you want to fulfill this world rune fantasy you can give him a tweak based on his keystone choice. It's a thematic fit, everyone can look it up at any time and the keystone choice should be able to synergize with the gameplay modification.
Just some ideas based on the current version:
Precision (Conqueror): consistent damage; reduce his Flux cooldown or reward his spellslinging nature
Domination (Electrocute/Dark Harvest): burst; increase the damage amplifier on Flux
Sorcery (Phase Rush/Comet): empowered abilities or resource manipulation; base W roots or he gains increased or different benefits from mana
Resolve (Graps/Aftershock): durability; give him his shield back
Inspiration (Spellbook/Glacial Augment): creative tools; gold effiency is a big theme in this tree so I guess Ryze could be able to either gain more gold in some way (budget TF passive) or spent his gold in another way (possibly his elixiers have increased/altered effects). I can also imagine that there is some synergy with active items (Stopwatch, Minion Demat., Timewarp Tonic) like increased movementspeed or mana gain. Inspiration compared to all other trees is all over the place so Ryze's interpretation of this tree being the most quircky seems like a fit, I can even see some shenanigans on summoners (like CD decrease on summoner spell cast).
If that would ever to be considered I'd streamline his Ult to a very basic ability with more deviations betweens his forms.
bro have you read akshan's kit?
they'd slap healing on this ryze's E and remove it a couple patches later lmao
@@peschionator7873 Wanst that timed changed though, thinking more like Kayn where once u hit lvl 6/13 or 15 mins in the game, its a permanent World Rune through the game
Thank you for the content Vars! I've been enjoying learning about league from you.
I need way more of these i really enjoy them keep up the great work!
Great video as always! Love the FE OST!
Yoooo I’ve been waiting for a series like this. Can you do shyvana next or put up a poll for the next champ
Merry Christmas Vars! Love your content 💙💙
Oh that soundeffect of pressing R with desperate power felt soo goood. I had immediatly the feeling, yess lets fight! They must have bring back that R. Awesome ult that never should have been deleted
Excited for this one considering the amount of time Ryze has been reworked
This video is the most waited video for me. KEEP UP MAN
Definitely keen for this topic to become a series!
this is an awesome series and id love to see more
i´d love to see more of this kind of videos
Can these channel get even better .... continue the series loved it
this video was reqlly good! i’d really like to see a video like that with aurelion sol, a lot of people, including me, seems to think that the only way to fix him is with a rework, your opinion on that interests me a lot
Ryze rework as christmas gift, clever Vars
This was super interesting!
I really hope this becomes a series for all the weird and unloved champions! ( Nocturn, Udyr, Azir, Aurelion etc. )
yeah, I had a Rework Idea for Nocturne way back in 2014.
I try to retell it here in another language, so it could get messy.
Q: It stays the same, just remove the Cast Time, so he don't have to stop
W: Increase the Passiv attackspeed a bit but change the effect when he blocks an Ability to Scare the Unit, who broke the shield.
E: This Spell becomes a SKill shot with higher range than actually. (Still has the effect that he gains Movementspeed when he moves towards scared enemys, but decrease the MS Bonus a bit)
Utimate: This Ability is kinda the same.
Decrease the Damage of the Jump as compare for the new Effect.
NEW: As long as Paranoia is active he gains the MS and Jumps to his target with every autoattack in a Range of 400.
Note: Yes my new Nocturne E works similar to the XinZhao W, but remember, that this idea is from 2014, many years before Xin became his actual W xD
Maybe this rework is obsolete now, because Nocturne is not a bad CHamp right now, but yeah back then I thought he really needed it.
I think for a ryze rework it should go for the cassio route. realy hammer home that one ability is essentialy all of his damage, put it on a low cooldown and make it play off of the other abilities in a more meaningfull way than: its now aoe. and give this man an ultimate that isn't a pro play only ability
YES!!!! Make it a seriessssss
I know nothing about ryze (and never bothered to learn given his reputation lol) but this was still so interesting to watch. Please keep it up!
I like this type of video quite a bit. It's fun thought food and hearing ideas. I have my own idea based off one of the elements you mentioned, mostly the combo system and making a new spell weaving. To me, Ryze's champion identity has always been "rapid fire abilities" and "scales with mana," and I think there is a happy way to improve his skill floor while also making him not an Akshan-esque encyclopedia, simple. Just make his kit function like the earliest iterations, where you just have to be concerned only about proper ability chaining but have a level 1 ultimate where a combo counter exists which empowers next ability and keep Ryze's passive a mana damage scaling one. The catch is that the ultimate passive for empowering each next ability will also be his limiter, making each successive ability cost more mana as it empowers it, and also providing buffs like Q increases MS more, W root changes from slow to .5 second root, 1 second, 1.5, then 2, and something for his E. This way Ryze's laning power and all-in potential goes up, however, he can't bully too much or overextend, his mana and CD management becomes skill expression. Further, you keep his identity as a late game DPS mage because his power spikes now scale directly off finishing mana items essentially and levels in his ultimate adding higher numbers to his empowered abilities. Every rework keeps stepping away from his mana scaling identity and embracing ability-chaining, but just making him scale more heavily off of mana and having him have to play around scaling costs alongside with his combos will keep him balanced while having the potential to combo a little and with decent damage early game but not be oppressive, while being strong once he scales. Keep the combos simple, the effects simple, but have his mana consumption become an extra important resource alongside comboing that he has to actively manage in order to create more skill expression. Starts off a bit like a burst mage like this to be viable, but transitions into a DPS mage over time.
My God this is the best Christmas gift
very excited for nocturne support rework vid whenever that comes out
I actually love Why everyone plays
If you want more ideas for variety content, another thing you could do is something similar to Carbot's Itdbecoolif series for HotS. He took characters from the original games and theory-crafted his own kits for them. Maybe you can do that but with some established Runeterra characters (I.E Silco), or even some of the cancelled champions (I.E Omen)?
I’m honestly all for bringing back why everyone plays, I think it may be more popular given that you’ve finally gotten pretty big
As a concept artist I love design and would like to ramble a little in this comment!
At heart of a design is the idea, the concept, the idea drives the subsequent decisions. Thus I don't quite care about numbers, mechanics, cool downs, all the mechanical work in the gameplay.
I believe Ryze was reworked a lot over his history first because he is one of the original characters made back in a time Riot was inexperienced, but also as said in the video he is a unique class of mage that is difficult to balance especially with the existing items back then. So low experience high challenge, old character, he went through many changes. That's not inherently wrong or bad.
However if he has gone through so many changes relatively recent in this 11 year history of the game, hard to balance between pro play and normal game play, then I believe something is amiss with his concept or idea behind all the choices. Regardless of what that may be exactly, I think if they wanted to rework Ryze yet again he should be more drastically reworked with meaningful changes and enhancements to his game play. Distinctive features as well. That whatever he is turned into, it is clear what he is doing what is he casting what effects is he granting, visual and mechanical gameplay. Now what I mean by the idea behind a design has to be more meaningful than the mechanics is that I believe the mechanics are just ways to execute an idea. For example, Ryze's identity should not be that he has a point and click root. His identity should be for example.... Close range spell slinging dps. A point and click root may or may not be part of that. That's a very simple example for discussion sake.
I'd say to also get rid of his ultimate and give him something individualistic. All those pro centric ally dependent ultimates are unappealing in normal game play and highly sought after in pro play. I think that is wrong to balance for pros only, because they are pros! They will be good no matter what they play. They are coordinated as a team, so obviously they love ally centric abilities and ultimates. Think of Shen ult, Galio ult, the whole of Kalista, all those champions went through many many changes, nerfs, adjustments, etc. Make a champion exist and function by themselves so 99% of the player base can play them, and let pros figure out their gameplay latter. It's okay they're pros. I'm sure they will be skilled if you gave them a bucket and a wooden stick.
So, I'd like to see Ryze function by himself, with clear and distinctive abilities, NOT three similar blue skill shots with no impact, perhaps to play more on the combo effects. If he combines two abilities one after the other, he gets a special effect that is visually interesting and meaningful, and that its clear for other player to see and go, "Ah he used his Q into W" or something like that.
Remember in your Mundo video, you touched upon the idea that Dr Mundo is SO similar to his old version that it addressed none of the problems of why he was uninteresting to play in the first place? If you want to solve a designers problem, you have to change things fundamentally sometimes.
Ma men reworked Ryze better in 15 minutes than riot ever did since Ryzes release.
I go this day main ryze. He has always been my favorite since season 5 and it’s so fun to just to constantly watch myself win lane just to lose to any other lane winning because my ratios are banned from being whipping and my
Hot being an escape instead of utility. Hell even with vamp ryze I remember win lane lose game being my motto for years lol
I've always thought Ryze should be a jungler. Think about it, he runs around the entirety of Runeterra looking for runes, why shouldn't he run across the entirety of Summoner's Rift jungling?
I remember seeing a post like this as to why ap skirmishers/bruisers will always have crappy itemization, because with ad champions on top of building raw ad, marksman build crit and attack speed, skirmishers build attack speed and hp/lifesteal, bruisers build hp (and lifesteal) and assassins build lethality (also some champs focus on cdr but idk where to put them). But ap doesn't interact with any other stat so if you make an item with ap, hp and damage over time _*cough* Liandry's Torment *cough*_, then Mages and assassins with probably make better use of it and it'll end up being op. So you have to make the items stats trash (S11 preseason demonic embrace and riftmaker) so those other champs don't want to build it
12:40 That Syndra that was able to stun Ryze with an EQ combo after her E was completely cast and the knockback went off, maximizing the cc. Damn... 😳
So you made him a carry karma? Not sure I like this personally, but this is really creative! Great Vid!
This will be a good one, wait what am I saying?! They're all Awesome!!!!
My take:
A big aspect that has effected Ryze especially recently was the changes to items. Rod of Ages was removed, the shield on Archangel's Staff was removed and then the mana effect was changed to grant CDR instead of AP. Without those items, Ryze's identity as a battlemage really suffers. You bring up that a core part of a lot of battlemages is their zoning tools, but even more than that, I'd say their identity is defensive tools that other mages largely lack. Anivia has her passive, Vlad has his healing and pool, Rumble has his shield (though he's arguably more of an AP Juggernaut since he doens't have ranged autos), Swain passive, Viktor Q, etc.
Ryze use to be extra problematic not just for his pro presence, but for having access to items and a base kit that both bolstered his defenses and damage. So his defensive tool was removed from his kit. But then the defensive aspects of items were also removed without compensation to him, leaving him even weaker, AKA the Riot special. So I would aim to first and foremost bring back some of his sustainability to put him more in line with other battlemages.
Passive:
Old: Ryze gains 5% bonus Mana per 100 bonus AP
NEW: Ryze gains charges by moving and casting spells. At 100 stacks, his next ability grants him a shield equal to 5% maximum mana and 40% AP and 40% decaying move speed for 2 seconds. In addition, he gains bonus AP equal to 2/3/4/5% Mana (at levels 1/6/11/16) and bonus Mana equal to 5/10/15/20% AP.
Q (Overload): Cooldown reset: Now requires two other abilities to be cast to reset Q cooldown (This replaces the movespeed bonus from expunging two runes)
W (Rune Prison): Flux bonus: Slow turns into a root -> Slow increased to 70%, decaying over a duration of 3 seconds, and grounds the target(s) for the duration. In addition, W will spread to other flux-marked targets.
E (Spell Flux): Removed: Automatic spread. Tooltip changed: Spell Flux causes the next spell Ryze casts on the target to spread to other nearby targets marked by spell flux and gain additional effects.
Flux bonus reverted: Spreads flux to other nearby targets.
Cooldown: 3.5/3.25/3/2.75/2.5s -> 1.5s
Mana cost: 40/55/70/85/100 mana -> 30/40/50/60/70 mana
Damage: 60/80/100/120/140 (+ 30% AP) (+ 2% bonus mana) -> 20/30/40/50/60 (+10% AP) (+1% bonus mana)
Ult: Removed: Area of effect. Ryze can now only teleport himself to an area.
Cast range: 1000 min - 3000 max -> 1000 min - 4000/5000/6000 max.
New!: After the first second of channeling, Ryze becomes untargettable while also being unable to attack, move, or use abilities. This effect lasts for an additional second upon teleporting to the new area. (Total channel time of 2 seconds unchanged)
I would like the current Ryze to have one more combo
Currently, he can either do altarnating combo (QEQWQ) for more DPS, or a condensed combo (QEWQ) for root + Movement Speed.
The third combo exists, not it's just a weak inbetween. You do QWEQ, for a movement speed, with a weaker CC but more dmg.
This combo is very clunky atm. It combines the effects of both of the combos (You're missing out on the dmg of one Q, but gaining movement speed) but it also puts you in an awkward position where you have to wait the longest out of all the combos to do EQ again.
So, my suggestion.
Split QEWQ and QWEQ to give different effects to Ryze.
Make one of the combos give you movement speed, and the other give him a shield (Like the one he had in the previous iteration)
i dont think ryze needs a lot of changes, current new items fixed a lot of ryze`s problems like spell vampirism. I also dont think he has a bad laning phase,similar to Viktor he has the capacity to bully the enemy with poke while putting the pressure on your opponent to do something to prevent your scaling,but is vulnerable to ganks and a single misstep can be a fatal difference. I believe it would be cool to make Ryze`s R like ezreal`s E that can be activated 3 times(like ahri but without the dash).
Please make a video like this on Rek'Sai.
I think Riot missed so much potential with her being the "Mother" of the void hoard, but not having any "minions" like Malzhahar and Yorick. It would be SO COOL if she used mini void monsters to farm, set out traps and gank. All the while having tunnels and other shenanigans. I think it would be much more interesting for her to be a late game macro-intensive controler. One ability I came up with would let her lay eggs to farm camps while she is ganking and then go back to get the gold (like ivern) or use them as a trap (like shaco box)
*SO MUCH POTENTIAL!*
Riot needs to hire this guy
I wanna hear and see your ideas on a Vladimir rework, i like your videos a lot and i would like to see what you think about him
I like that idea quite alot... maybe it has it's problems but it makes him back into 'mind your spell order' champion which was the reason I dropped him after minirework with shield removal
This would be a cool series.
You choosing a champ per episode and rework it a bit to make it more viable in todays scene.
You've done plenty of design insights by now, I'd love to hear YOUR own design or somewhat similar to this, new concept, new ideas on how champions should be changed so on and so forth.
Vars would love one of these for azir and kalista aswell
I haven't played with Ryze in ages so there may be something I'm not getting but, aren't Flux and Empowerment redundant? Both of them add an special effect to abilities and with Arcane stacks on top of it, he seems a bit overloaded for such a simple concept. Wouldn't it be possible to fuse 2 of these or maybe change his ult?
Let's goooooo finally
Feliz navidad vars
I would love to see a video like this on renekton
A cool idea that I have for adding to the rework would be to change one or more of his abilities to consume a percentage of his max mana, and the more mana consumed the harder it hits (like a built in old muramana but AP) that way he can make full use of the new items and runes, scale super hard into the late game while still doing respectable dmg early but can't just face roll the keyboard.
This is an old video but I wanted to weigh in as some item changes brought Ryze more in to the limelight. Fimbulwinter/Winter’s Approach, and the tank-mage hybrid build that resulted kinda felt like exactly what he needed. An item that supplies him with a healthy amount of both damage and survivability, and kind of solidifed his playstyle. He feels like this really unique, battlemage-y bruiser, who can be much more oppressive with a new capacity for risk taking. I don’t actually think current Ryze is in need of any huge changes anymore, except his ult is still……well, you know. But it’s so hard to change it without totally destroying his balance
Plz do more of this
I miss the old spread mechanic where if you git a target that was afflicted with flux it would spread out. Felt more like setting up wave and maintaining it so you could hit your E when the laner was close and collapse it much nore satisfying than what it is now.
I wish so badly that riot would steal your idea.
I think it would be cool to see Ryze as a spellcaster ADC like Ezreal. I think they essentially work as similar characters, where they try to chain their abilities to pump out massive burst damage, and seeing him reworked where he could play bot and mid lanes in a similar style would be an interesting concept.
Ryze has been through so much🥺
your ideal is cool and I can already see him oneshoting ppl in the laning phase.
GET THIS MAN ON THE DESIGN TEAM!
Please make more videos like this.
As a cassio one trick , I cant wait for you to talk about her 🐍🌸
Is that fire emblem awakening music? Insane.
I like these changes a lot. Promotes a ton of skill instead of bashing your face onto the keyboard for a free pentakill.
You should try to do Aurelion Sol next!
One main thing for Aurelion Sol that I would love to see is to somehow implement his URF mechanic where he gains an extra star every few levels [7, 13, 21 I believe]
you should do taliyah, azir, or neeko. i’d like to see how you’d fix them.
The madlad is doing the impossible.
Please do Aurelion Sol next, I actually thought about ideas about reworking him bc of this video
I would love to see your take on Rell
An idea i've seen thrown around sometimes is to rework Ashe's kit to make her an AD utility support like Senna, which as a support main I like very much, so maybe you could try doing a video about it if it peeks your interest!
*hears FE Awakening in the background*
_Ah, I see you're a man of culture_
I replayed the video twice but i cant really grasp how you get the empowered effect ? Is it every 3 unique casts ? Or is it on anything that is not overload, like it is at the moment ?
I think vars explained the issues with early game pretty well. Unless you have the ability to mange recourses very well (9 to 10 cs per minute) then it just feels as if your stuck at ever-frost boots damage for long into mid game. So by the time you have 4 items the game is at 35 min and is pretty much over.
As you keep saying Mage ADC, I just kept thinking about Twisted Fate cards
Passive could be that his autos are 100% magic damage regardless if he builds ap or ad and still apply on hit effects. The ap is converted to ad standars since he maily auto attacks.
My idea for a rework would be to have a single ability, maybe just his Q as a skill shot or point and click.
And his w and e be like Twisted Fate W, but with 2 options each instead of 3, for a total of 4, since he is a hibrid between adc and mage you have 2 build options, you can build like an adc with attack speed, crit, and damage to behave just like a normal adc, and his empowered AA (w and e) just cause minor effects, maybe pick between a slow and a blind for w, or lower MR or Armor on e. But if he builds ap, once the ryze gets certain ap thresholds, like Kai'sa, his w and e change, his blind or slow are now a nearsighted or a root, his Armor or MR lowering are now empowered and are aoe, and his ult could be a gate way, similar to a bard tunnel but that goes both ways and covers an area of the map and has a pretty big distance, the portal could last 5-7 secs. It would be mainly an auto attacker with uiltility spells that when building ap becomes more spell sentric with less auto attack power.
Who knows, maybe he will even become a viable adc, support or jg too depending completely on what build path he takes.
Very cool video!
I've been playing league since 2012 and I have never cared to learn how to play ryze correctly.
Everytime I get him in ARAM or I randomly play him in normals I just QWEQWEWQEQWEQR regardless of his current rework
so happy
I played Ryze once in ARAM. Realized that he's actually pretty strong unless you get kited by long range champs like Caitlyn. He's also easy because two thirds of his kit is point and click and he deletes thanks to the short E cooldown.
However, I still didn't like his playstyle. It just feels too easy.
you have to play perfectly to make it worth it over other battlemages
It’s incredible how he feels so easy yet is so complex at the same time. It’s like a lemon and most players are just hands while pros and ryze onetricks are like a squeezer. Weird comparison, but I feel it’s somewhat accurate
Every mage is just easy to play in aram, actually Ryze has increased damage dealt and reduced damage taken in aram
"ARAM"
Literally everything is easier in ARAM, because you are only worrying about one lane, and it's all team fights.
Those who think that ryze is an easy champion,im 100% sure that they play him with eqeqeq and if they remember that he has a w a slow a root a passive that gives him ms than he has to kite with abillites and using perfect tools lile everfrost and phaserush ...im not even gonna talk abouy hes 12 dps midgame combo thay only with pwrfect distance and timing you can achive...but yes such an easy champ eqeqeq ..
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Bruh this inspired me. If u can win with this we can win with anything
Your analysis in the first half was cool but it was hard to follow the proposed rework. Some basic animation would help a lot to illustrate your points
This idea is great, but I would expand on that. Instead of making his e a single target point and click, make it a skill shot, that still spreads the mark.
Also, as you said, he needs to be reworked to be more of a combo mage, so I would propose, not hte chain system, but an "order system" basically make it so that every 3rd or 4th ability that he has casted is empowered/changed.
Q would either pass through targets with bigger range or create an aoe explosion, that is a but weaker than his base hit q
W would root you target
E would strip your targets mr and do the aame thing for any target that it spread to, but in lower amounts
His ult needs to stay, cuz it kinda defines him in league, but his passive should be changed to "If Ryze hits 3 different abilities on an enemy champion he gets a burst of movement speed"
Keep his passive scaling with mana, but make it more linear, bump it in the early and nerf it in late.
And also he needs to keep the mechanic of reseting his abilities on cast, but I would make it so that his casted ability refunded a portion on his other 2 (but not fully), which will make you think about your rotations, similar to any other mmorpg mage
nice bro
we are waiting the noc video
Can you do a video on remove or rework abilities and passives? And why they were removed
Will like one of these for asol
A good Christmas present from vars
His kit is honestly really fun to pull off full combos with, it's just that his ultimate is a dud about 95% of the time and his core itemization has pretty much been entirely removed or the items were shifted away from ones that he really wanted to build. He's always been a mage that's based more on scaling into the mid-late game, but they removed Rod of Ages, and they completely changed seraph's embrace to give CDR with bonus mana instead of AP, and before that they changed seraph's to no longer give a shield anymore. IMO, Ryze is one of the most fun champions to play when you successfully pull him off, but in almost all the other scenarios his weak early and laning phase just makes you feel like shit cause you're either barely hanging on by a thread or you're just getting absolutely railed by champions with stronger early/laning phase as well as repeat jungle ganks.
If there's one thing I've learned from the Ryze subreddit, it's that everyone there is depressed.
Make champion concept. I used to do this in my mind for years. For example i tought of a champion with the ultimates of the enemy team before Riot. But that champion would have on E the ult of the enemy champion he killed most recently. If you make concepts for champ disign would be very cool.
A champion i would like to see is Nasus. Not just because nasus is a champion i like, but also because of the conflict the champion has in identity with lore vs gameplay and how one-dimensional he can feel. In lore nasus is a master tactician, knowing how to outsmart the enemies, but in-game you can either go q go brrr or e go brrrrr with AP. It would be an interesting idea to see how you would possibly reflect this feel of Master Tactician while still retaining his playstyle of late-game menace that can one-shot you.
My swain rework idea:
P:
Can onlt pull from ally cc after level 13
Change the 5 health to something more meaningfull, like 1 resistance per stack
Q:
Hitting 5 bolts gives 1 P stack
W:
Its nevermove and roots for 2s
Range scale with P
E:
Bird turret
Bird turret gains 2% slow per 1P stack, up to 50% slow
R:
Toggle
No build in regen
10%-30 passive omnivamp
What are your thoughts vars?
as ryze main he actualy thought of good rework that will improve his playstile .mechanic and higher his skill cealing
I feel like his ukt being a toggled amplifier that drains his mana would be interesting
This themes is a locked dount I've always had