He went out for a "calming smoke" before calling emergency services, even though his sister was still moving during that phone call? Yeah, absolutely appalling. Glad he's behind bars.
Honestly since he's the murderer I don't understand why he would violently attack her so badly and not finish the job? It's risky isn't it? And he clearly wasn't in a rush.
@@feroxartem This is the first time I saw that video even though I was familiar with the case. He looks like he doesn't even understand the question! Even though it was one if my first questions when I first heard about the case. Horrible.
I'm a stoner medically, honestly I would never fucking harm my own family, and I dont like mine for many reasons (like addiction) but not enough to hurt them and leave them to fucking suffer for a "calming smoke"
11:30 "Had you ever thought of the possibility of consoling them in their death? ... they're dying... make if comfortable..." completely gets him unexpectedly and leaves him off balance. He is literally speechless.
Henri’s story is completely unbelievable. It’s absurd. His entire family was viciously attacked by a man with an axe, yet the attacker takes out a knife to (non-fatally) stab him? Nope.
"The blood was flowing down the stairs like a waterfall.".. The absolute most chilling sentence ive ever heard in 33 yrs of life. ...and this guy was sooooooo calm during the 911 call.
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. As far as the 911 call he almost sounded annoyed that he was being asked all these questions,... true sociopath,.. unable to relate to, or even fake genuine human emotion.
To be fair a lot of men go into shell shock and aren't able to show their emotions properly. It's not a negative statement about men just a factual one. I prefer to go off actual evidence and inconsistencies in interrogations rather than strange reactions to trauma as there are all types.
This is a stupid thing to think. I've been in shock. I was very calm and monotone while I was bleeding out in front of my baby sister after being hit by a car going 45 while I was crossing the street. I was hit so hard it knocked my boots and my pants of. Shock doesn't allow you to feel the damage, physical or emotional. It's survival. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm saying that's an ignorant reason to say someone is guilty of something.
@@elvinendalee Your point of view will get FAR MORE recognition and consideration if you don't begin with "this is a stupid thing to think". You lose all credibility and sound like a petulant child, try presenting your ideas without attacking other ideas.
Hey That Chapter.. Here’s an interesting fact.. I used to be Henri’s guitar teacher when he was in high school.. in Perth Australia.. I also taught one of his good school friends at the time.. hearing the news when this all came out was shocking.. having spent considerable time with him over a year or so.. you could never have guessed this was going to happen.. During that time he came across as a perfectly normal teen.. you can never really know a person..
Dazza 85 I used to live in a bad part of zagreb and there drugs where very very common we never even dared to go outside in the night or alone the school was bad and everybody had bad grades and I was also very sad and unmotivated even tho I loved school when before I immigrated to croatia thank god that I live far away from there and everything is going great this just shows how drugs have a worse affect than poverty in some places (not extreme poverty but poverty where people have food and a place to stay at but very hardly earn more money than what is considered minimum to survive
Hmmm, maybe, just maybe....he’s innocent. Have you looked past the headlines and rumors? If the media portrayal of a person doesn’t jive with the actual living, breathing person you knew, maybe...the media is wrong? There’s faaaaar more to the story than Mike gave. He gave a very brief and somewhat inaccurate synopsis of the case. Do a little digging.
Dazza 85 It was never, ever proven he was on drugs. His toxicology the day of the murders was negative, for everything. Including alcohol. The prosecution was never able to substantiate the rumor beyond some guy named “Mark” who lived in a shack and picked out his picture, after it had been in the news. That’s literally it. His medical history showed zero evidence of drug use. Pathetic how easy it is to convince the populace of a lie. It’s actually terrifying how easy it is. Next time you want to jump on the bandwagon, stop and think “what if this was me? What if this was a loved one?” Is this how you’d want to be treated? Think you’ll never, ever have trouble with the law? Yeah, well, literally everyone who finds themselves there never thought it could ever happen to them. Funny how something like “innocent until proven guilty” and “beyond a reasonable doubt” are completely thrown out the window...until it’s you on the receiving end.
You know what's so sad? Our Mike won't ever run out of cases to cover. There will always be murders to discuss and try to understand. I'm glad for Mike to have this fantastic channel and lots of cases to discuss, because he does it better than anyone else on here. But still sad to know there will always be plenty to choose from 😚
@@stungstung2424 Where is this interview? I’ve researched as much as I can about this case and have never seen a single interview with him. I’d like to see it as I’ve suspected he was innocent but perhaps this interview would change my mind.
@@genuineimitation8799 I'm glad you replied, I lost my comment and realised I was watching a dr Phil episode about another young boy who murdered his mum with a sledgehammer, when I wrote my comment here, I thought this was the same guy. Funny, that this guy seems to have the same split personality.
@@stungstung2424 I know exactly who you’re talking about. That case was a truly awful one. I remember he laughed when he remembered the sledgehammer coming down on her head 😳
@@genuineimitation8799 Love Each Day may have been mistaken about Henri but you should have seen him during trials, him and his girlfriend were living a regular life, you them happy, laughing, eating pizza, going out as though he hadn't just lost his entire family in thd most gruesome way... Google Henri van Brede and girlfriend in between trials
I’m surprised Henry hadn’t died of old age by the time the police got there at the speed that call operator was going. The creepy part is, if he’d tried to pin it on Marley’s boyfriend, he might have got away with it.
Nope. They checked security cameras and registry of the main gate so they knew of ever person who came and went for days. The perimeter fence/ boundary wall also had no alarms triggered before or after the time of the attack. Knowing how good some security estates are in South Africa will help you understand how difficult (but not impossible) it would be for an intruder to go unnoticed especially when thoroughly investigated. Other estates in SA... not so much.
Surprised you didn't mention that the 911 call took 30 mins, the woman was completely unable to locate the street and thought it was a prank call. The whole call was a weird train wreck, he was super calm and never got angry. Imagine trying to call a cab and explaining for 20 mins your whole neighborhood, then add on that oh yeah your entire family just got attacked
Oh-I thought she was keeping him on the line while sending police. Actually, at first I thought "This woman is an idiot," then decided to give her the benefit of the doubt.
I just can’t imagine how devastating it must to be to realize the person murdering you is your own immediate family...your own child, your own sibling. The confusion & emotional torment they must have felt in those short moments is too much...
Ugh. I can't even _imagine_ being woken up to realize my brother had attacked my parents & was coming at me with violent intent. You'd be so unable to comprehend what was happening, then feel crushing betrayal. It's honestly impressive the daughter managed to defend herself at all (it was probably instinctual at that point) I'm glad she can't remember it, for her sake.
What about when he was on the stand being asked why he didn't try to help or comfort them as they were dying? That was some shit acting if I ever saw any. BAD faker. lol
The prosecutor things that's what started the whole thing. That.henri killed his brother in a fit of rage and henri had to kill the whole family so there would be no witnesses
The dad was protecting the son, Rudy. The daughter likely survived bc she fought back and absorbed most of those blows with her hands while defending herself. Moral of the story: fight like your life depends on it.
Doesnt gace the raw trauma of the actual event (im sure still alot od truram) and also loaded with millions, atleast she sees somewhat of a silverlining in this situation
At the end when the judge was reading out the sentence, the guy that killed his family looked completely empty, his eyes were black and dead What a sad story
If you see the photos of him from when the murders happen to the day of sentencing, there is a marked difference in his appearance. He lost a fair amount of weight and his eyes become more sallow and dark. It’s like seeing the life drain out of him. People point to this as proof of his guilt, but I question: what would happen to you, if you were under such extreme duress as watching your whole family die, then looking at life in prison for something you didn’t do? What if...he IS innocent? The investigation was a joke. Only 35% of this alleged “fortress like fence” was actually covered by CCTV. They had had numerous robberies in that community in the months leading up to the murders. There was an alarm that went off the night of the murders, with the security dismissing it and resetting it. The family often kept the back door unlocked for the domestic staff. Moreover, the supposed drug abuse was NEVER proven. It all stems from some guy living in a shack that picked out Henri’s picture AFTER the murders were reported in the news. My point is, I don’t think his guilt was proven beyond a reasonable doubt. People point to his affect on the emergency call. Well, I know people like this, who keep a lot of emotion inside. Who act cool but are not inside. Not that they’re bottling things up, they’re just not hyper-emotional. Not everyone is the same. And I despise people who say “that’s not what I would do”. How do you know? I honestly have no idea how I’d react in such a situation. Some people emotionally shut down. I’ve heard from many survivors that they don’t have an emotional response until hours, sometimes days after. There’s a sense of it all being so unreal. I’m not saying he didn’t do it. But there’s a lot of unanswered questions and way too much conjecture to say he absolutely did.
@@genuineimitation8799 I've been in that position. I never murdered anyone or committed any serious crimes but over a decade ago I had to go before a judge guilty or not it's a scary experience.I was sentenced to 6 months for something I was innocent for & I felt panicked inside and felt faint but obviously had to hold it together in the courtroom. It truly is guilty until proven otherwise...
Free Range I’m sorry that happened to you. One thing I’ve discovered, and never really thought about before I started down this particular rabbit hole, is just how common stories like yours are. People convicted of heinous crimes and later exonerated by DNA evidence. Convictions that hinged on witness testimony that later turned out to have been coerced by police, and on and on. It’s frightening just how easy it is to be convicted of a crime with little evidence. You are right. It’s not the prosecution that needs to prove it’s case, it’s the defense that must prove their clients innocence.
For those saying "why didn't he finish her off" he no doubt believed he had. Why didn't the supposed attacker(s) finish him off? And leave him virtually unscathed? As for the drugs...he was arrested for it, it wasn't just a "rumour" Plenty of evidence pointing to his guilt
@@clarencetuurngait7628 While you are entitled to believe what you want, The FACT of the matter is there is ZERO proof of the existence of God and ZERO proof of the lack of existence of God and to claim either one way or the other as 100% true is foolish. One thing that is 100% true is that when you die you will either find out you were wrong.....or you will never know you were right.
@@Sickoflife look around you, look at yourself in the mirror and then tell me again theres no god. where did everything came from then? magically exploded into existence? nah, theres a creator and the bible explains everything perfectly fine in a rational and logical way. sure, you can chose to not believe it in the end, thats what its all about, the free will. thats why adam and eve got actually removed from eden, and thats whats started everything. but eh, most people prefer to not use their own mind and just feed on occult mainstream media
Black-outs...yea...on this one i needed it schissch what is wrong with people...I've done amphetamines....it just made me want to clean my house...my neighbors house.. then clean the street when i got thru with the immediate area....never did it make me wanna hurt anyone...{bad drugs...these days!}
That social worker literally said "I don't see any reason why he would do something like this, so he couldn't have done something like this" (18:22) Like, what? Was she expecting to talk to any murderer and go "You know? I really see where you were coming from. You had good reason to murder those people" Edit: After listening to what she said a couple more times, I think her second sentence was more that she couldn't imagine that he could do this, and not that she didn't believe he did it. But boy, those were some of the most convoluted sentences I have ever heard
@@rachelraquel758 I believe in cases where a person is/can be a risk to themselves or others, a social worker/therapist/whatever can disclose those details to the police. I would imagine that would also apply in cases of murder
She is also apparently completely ignorant about DRUGS. If one is addicted to something similar to METH, there's *no way* to know what they're capable of!
What got me was when she talked about "in my professional opinion....." The only professional opinion this stupid cow would be qualified to expound on, would be the emptying of septic tanks - with a bucket. What a cretin. She would rather believe that Van Breda's fictictious random "black guy in a ski mask" (how many black guys in S. Africa even own ski masks?) would behave with such bestiality - for no damn reason (nothing stolen), right?? AND leave behind a physically strong able bodied male eye witness - with barely a scratch on him? Right? I wanted to reach into my computer screen and slap HER upside the head with a goddamn axe myself.... Fucking retarded twat.
Lucky for her he didn't finish her off when he saw her moving. I wonder why... she could have been a witness. It's not like he knew she was going to lose her memory.
@@Neophema If it really was an attack caused by the effects of drugs on him, then reason is the last thing to consider. Who knows what went on in his brain after he came to himself and saw what he'd done.
I am from South Africa and I remember this case being on the news, even for our country this act of violence towards a family is extreme. Watched so many of your videos from all around the world and I think you did a good job explaining all the points of this one too. So shout out from SA.
@@cherricola8460 I don't think there will be, and I think that's for the best tbh. I'd love to hear if she's okay, but I also think she'd wanna put this behind her.
I'm making an educated guess that the only reason he used the axe and knife was because there were no guns available to him at the time. Since you live there I ask what are the laws regarding guns in SA?
It's tik not tick. I read that they didn't find any drugs in his system that night. I'm from South Africa and followed this case, perhaps the papers kept that part out because I wouldn't be surprised if he tikked before calling the police. Tik is a huge problem here, especially in Cape Town.
I thought same. Definitely has a meth face especially around his eyes. He's creepy for sure and his face looking stone during the verdicts was telling.
Not defending him, but some people “ shut down” during traumatic events and can be mistaken for emotionless. I find people that obviously fake emotions like that escort in Florida who tried to get her husband killed much creepier.
How can someone with so much in their pockets, have so little in their hearts? Maybe that's why I am poor...My heart takes up too much space! This is sad!
I think you're onto something. But it also might be and you have more brains in your head taking up space. I've had the displeasure of working with and knowing lots of rich people. They are often one of the following: incompetent, shallow, boring, heartless....if the elites ever get their Georgia guide stone wish of a half million people on this planet, of just them. This earth will be a literal heartless hell.
Wow just wow. A wild-eyed 'social worker' who cant tell the difference between a cold-blooded psychopath and an innocent person. I don't know how long this person has been qualified in social work, but I sincerely hope, that her career in this type of work is a short one. I have never seen anyone less suited to be in a 'caring' profession! .
I am from South Africa!!! Yay. The day they put the emergency call on the radio, everyone was like, this guy is guilty! What a prick! Do Oscar Pistorius please!
The Pistorius case was ludicrous. This judge , in the Van Breda murder case knew what he was doing and handled this dreadful case with dignity and intelligence. Cannot say the same for the female judge in the Pistorius case who handed out a farcical sentence initially and made the whole court system in SA a laughing stock.
I'm not a certified body language analyst, but when the judge reads out the punishment of three life sentences, it sure looks like Henri subconsciously nods in agreement or understanding each time.
"Body language analysis" is complete pseudoscience anyway. I don't see why you find it weird that he would nod. People usually nod along when they aren't speaking, to show that they are listening.
@@amityislandchum I'm not sure why you would disregard body language analysis. Sure, it's not an exact science because we are not inside the head of the individual being examined, but emotions and thought patterns really do manifest in one's body language. It's definitely important and hopefully one day it can be made more precise.
@@amityislandchum It's also not just about showing that they're listening. They're showing that they're actively engaged and either understand or agree with what's being said.
@@supaflyza there are so many accents in South Africa - the English accent (which sounds quite posh), the Afrikaans accent when speaking English (which I think is quite bad), the English accent of African native language speakers.
I couldn't imagine getting my head smashed in by a hatchet . I've got my thumb with a hammer and the pain is insane .. To be that cruel to your own family
It was scary to see Henri's eyes .....when he was laying in the ambulance his eyes looked like the life was gone from them and later video of him in the courtroom . He looked so blank and void of emotion .....so horrible . I am thankful his sister is alive and will keep my hopes up for her as she has a life and is still loved by many . I believe Henri is where he needs to stay .
When the judge was reading out his sentence one by one... he nodded with acknowledgement. He was 100% guilty and his body language revealed it.... so sad for their family.
Reminds me of the juror in the last case I watched that said she wouldn't be able to concentrate on the trial because the defendant was too good looking. These women so bowled over by a handsome face that they're blinded to anything else are really pathetic.
What makes you think you know him better than a professional working with him for months? The social worker is inept, yet you somehow think you know him better? Tell me, how many conversations have you had with him? The only fool here is you.
pastel stars right? Oh you need an ambulance? Your family was attacked? You need police. What’s that? They’re all dead? I’ve waited too long to contact emergency services because I’m a twat waffle? Whoopsie doo. Do you need an ambulance though?
Honestly tho, i bet that phonecall was really helpful in catching him, she stayed on the line as operators are supposed to. Help was probably underway the moment he said they needed an ambulance.
Anyone who gets charged with obstruction of justice should be fined the rough amount of money law enforcement had to put into chasing those fake leads.
The Shepp I understand. I used to live there. I’m speaking mostly, as an American, to our propensity to blame “some black guy” for a crime. An allegation made by the guilty party who is usually white.
Shout out from SA, this was an extreme case for the country, even with our high crime rate. Anothet super interesting and shocking case you can look into is the Griquatown murders where Don Steenkamp, aged 16, killed his family on Easter Weekend. Another crazy story.
Accidentally woke my hubby, trying not to laugh(to not wake him. Fail) 😅 Some are married to their work. This man was married to his wife 🤣 I'll see myself out.
I love his content, but it gets to my OCD when he can pronounce "th" sometimes, but other times he can't. I put it down to some underlying condition he has. There is another RUclipsr who does creepy scary videos. His content is really really good but I can't watch it because of his voice, it's really whiney and he draws his words out, just can't stand it. Couldnt think of his name so had to Google most annoying RUclipsrs he topped the list LOL Its "chills"
That social worker may as well have said, "I am unfit for my career." As a social worker, this woman scares me. I hope no one ever seeks her (dis)Services.
These Emergency number phone calls are hard to listen to sometimes. I just feel like if I was laying somewhere dying and my life depended on an ambulance responding quickly, I'd be screwed.
Skullface Studios I know right? Who wants to waste their dying breath playing 21 questions with an emergency phone operator telling you, you need police not an ambulance...ffs
@@frankboff1260 EMS is dispatched the second an address is given. You're kept on the line to either stay away from the crime scene, be calmed down, or kept alert if you are injured. Any pertinent information you may have is given to EMS while en route.
Dude, listen to a longer clip of the call, it is crazy. It’s like 30-45 minutes of the 911 operator saying “I can’t find de Zalze vineyards, I can’t find Stellanbosch, etc.” Van Breda keeps explaining where it is, used google maps to help her and she’s just like brain dead. That’s how I heard about this case because it was in a video for worst 911 calls ever.
Guillermo Not in SA, for this call at least, the rest of the hour long call is this 911 operator bitch telling him she can’t find the address so she can’t send the ambulance
@@guillermo3564 Usually this is the case. Just this one time, everything was handled in the worst possible way (someone else here is suggesting to listening to the longer version of the call - a bunch of idiots) Appalling.
Whaa'??! How could you fall in love with him - he is just as exciting as a wet sleeping bag during Winter, outside, on Greenland - she needs help then...
It seems universal that emergency call centres that field calls are all slow on the uptake. They all make people repeat things over and over, ask for the same info over and over, ask questions the caller may not have a clue about, and they all ask everyone to pretty much solve the crime before the police and ambulance get there. How many times did this guy request an ambulance? Sheesh.
avithemostill Maybe he’s telling the truth. Home invasions, where murder is THE only motive, are not in any way out of the ordinary for SA. It’s also not uncommon, at all, for the murder weapon to come from the home, but in Henri’s case, it was never proven. They had two witnesses that testified in this regard: Marli’s boyfriend who said he saw a black headed axe outside by their fire pit and the domestic worker that said she saw a similar one in the pantry. She stated, clearly, that she could not say it was THE SAME AXE, only that it looked similar. I wonder how many green headed (not black), wooden handled axes are in homes all across SA right now. Probably a lot. I could probably go to Home Depot right now and buy something similar. I also find it interesting that his father had over 25 businesses, dealing in hundreds of millions (if not billions) of dollars, his brother (Martin’s) said he was “going to change SA”. Well, perhaps there are those who don’t want SA to change, or to change the way Martin intended. There’s a ridiculous amount of corruption in both the SA government and police force. It’s going through massive issues right now, there are farm massacres constantly there. I think there’s a possibility the Van Breda’s were targeted. The estate was not anywhere near as “impenetrable” as the prosecution stated. The defense had very reasonable, if not compelling, testimony and evidence to the contrary. There’s a lot to this case that makes it not so cut and dry. Western justice relies on two absolutely crucial edicts, one: INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty (not guilty by the court of public opinion until proven innocent, an impossibility for anyone) and two: guilty beyond a REASONABLE doubt. In other words, the accused is innocent until and unless the state can PROVE GUILT beyond any reasonable doubt. I do not think the state of SA did this by any stretch. They never did state a motive. Never even brought it up. Why didn’t the state posit drug abuse? Because they couldn’t prove it. No evidence for it at all. Why didn’t they state money as a motivation? Because Henri wasn’t going to inherit that money anyway. This according to the family, family friends and the lawyer representing the estate. That money went into a trust. It wasn’t like he was magically going to get millions. Not at all. So, the fact that he was sober at the time of the murders (proven), he had no monetary motive (provable) and to this day has never said a negative thing about any of his family speaks volumes. He’s not psychopathic (proven) and has no history of violence. All this, plus so much more, leads me to believe he is likely innocent of this crime.
Idk why you didn’t report on the status of Marli. She is thriving and even graduated college soon after all this. She is as beautiful as ever and doing great in life.
It’s actually a Blessing in Disguise that Marli couldn’t remember anything . She didn’t need to know how terrifying that attack was. So that’s good she won’t have flashbacks. All she needs to know is her family was murdered & her brother is responsible. Spare her the cruel details . 😔
Would an innocent man stand emotionless and in silence while being told he was found guilty of killing 3 family members? It's so obvious. He has an aunt and a girlfriend who think he didn't do it. The credulity of some people is astonishing.
Yes normal people can become emotionally detached after trauma. It's normal. Also, the judge normally has already warned everyone not to have emotional outbursts before they start the sentencing.
@@Preservestlandry Agreed. Most people have never faced anything even close to this. I imagine, if he is innocent, it would seem like a waking nightmare. A genuine “cannot believe this is happening” kind of moment. Most people think they’d be the hero, they’d fight the intruder off, they’d scream, they’d do this, do that. When it comes down to it though, chances are you will freeze. It isn’t just fight or flight. It’s fight, flight and freeze, with freezing being far more common. They’re thinking of how they would respond while sitting in their living room, calm, in no danger. Your brain does NOT respond the same during trauma as it does when not under extreme stress. I’d say being sentenced to three life sentences plus 15 years is an extremely stressful event. It comes down to this: however you *think* you’d act in such an extreme situation is likely nothing like what you’d actually do. People know nothing about human behavior, much less seen someone in a traumatic situation or been through one themselves.
I listened to it on a podcast a while back. It was long as crap but crazy on both sides the 911 operator was horrible at her job and he’s horrible at acting. His new “gf” believes him though 🙄
Eammon Wright I think it’s the same one? I remember the call was really long and he kept giving idiotic answers . Like not saying where he lived or changing it etc like he was purposely stalling first responders.
While the judge was reading him his sentencing, it appeared to me that he was feeling a rather strong emotion internally leading up to and at the point his mother's name was read.
@D Zuke the dude was a meth head who killed his family with a hatchet. I think "spoiled brat" is way too simplistic and doesn't cover the full scope of fucked-up-ness going on with the guy.
D Zuke I don’t know when I see kids throwing a tantrum in the store I think “wow spoiled brat”. When I see a murderer I think of something a bit more extreme...
@D Zuke I don't no if its true but alway thought crystal meth made people horny....wow I was told wrong wtf lol..... *EDIT* I just thought that perhaps when they dont6have the drug then instead of being horny it could turn to murderous tendencies in a small percentage of people??
that kills me. 15 years for attempted murder. so because she survived, the punishment is so much less. YOU TRY to kill some one. it should be automatic life no parole.
I never understood this. Ever. The intention was exactly the same. The intention was to end a persons life. The intention is what the sentencing should be based on not the result of success or failure of the intention
Ain’t it funny that this “black man” came into a heavily secured neighborhood killed an entire family and forgot to kill one?....I’m no genius but why leave one dude alive when you just butchered the other 4? And then decide it to steal anything? And of course not to mention that none of the cameras, security or anyone else was able to capture or see the black man. I mean LOL!!! That place looked like a prison!. Nah, that POS got what he deserved.
He blamed it on a black guy because it might be quite plausible in SA. There's a massive anti white sentiment over there and all kinds of crazy race related crimes going on, especially at the time
@@cannedgoodness9633 No. That is factually incorrect. Those stories were made up my fascists and white supremacist farmers in south Africa to cater to the MAGA alt right bigots in the USA. Check out the video by the channel "Shaun" on this that debunks this dangerous and hate-fueled fake news.
NO signs of remorse, grief, anger, protests of innocence. The look on his face: Unmoving, poker-faced, cold. The face of someone who's guilty. Who knows what went on behind closed doors. The social worker probably fell under his spell.
I could not beilieve that she said "As a professional I can´t believe he did that". On what grounds is she stating that? I agree with you that this woman was manipulated by him
i do not advocate judging people by their outward appearance and manner of speaking, but i have to say it it glaringly obvious there is something off about that social worker, clearly not very intelligent. really disturbing
Or the face of someone who has lost everything in life and has nothing to lose anymore. Funny how these days facts don't matter and feelings seem to be everything.
@@nw6070 What i personally find more disturbing is that you think you know more about her while you didn't spend one single second with her than she knows about this guy while spending hours on end with him. It's scary because it shows how much humanity has degraded.
@@TheGalantir facts? What facts are you basing that off? The facts are he coldly killed his family for money to do drugs and has shown not an once remorse. He can't even bring himself to fake empathy for his family. If he truly was sad and felt that he "lost everything" than he would try to make amends to the only family he has left, his sister. Hell he even made sure to smoke and get high before calling any aid because he wanted to make sure they died and the only thing this man cares about is drugs. If he truly believed he has nothing to loose he wouldn't keep up this act that he's innocent. Genuinely just the actions of someone who lacks empathy and isn't able to think about anyone but himself and this half assed excuse is just an insult to the intelligence of everyone here
Mike, there's a perfect word you can use to get the various accents right for Afrikaners, Aussies & Kiwis: "aircraft". In South Africa it's like "EE-croff". AUS: "Eh-cruft" NZ: "ICK-reft" 😃👍
2:50 he sounds like Hugh Grant flirting in a romantic comedy on the 911 call. "Oh botha, it appears someone has murdered my entire family. Do be a dear and send the meat wagon. Pip pip cheerio." Like damn bro, you sound super calm about all this.
Or completely resigned to his fate. I’m sure they were aware of the potential sentence once the guilty verdict was handed down. It looks like he is just affirming what he knew was coming.
I started supporting you on Patreon because I get such a kick out of your incredible wit. The only tier available was $2 but I would much rather give 'tree' :)
I think he needs a theme song Sesame Street style about “tree, is my favourite number...” I take the content of this channel very seriously of course but a little of Mike’s wit helps the medicine go down 🤗
Henri has his social worker wrapped around his little finger. He had her sized up in an instant. I bet she feels that they connected on a meaningful level.
Another horrific murder in South Africa is "The griekwastad murders" They are making a movie of this true horror ... would be awesome if you could do a episode on this
I have been avoiding watching this video as it is too close to home- I am South African. It is horrific. A good summary of the case, thanks. Love your channel.
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I wasn't surprised at all to find out that an axe was involved with tree victims.
Ahaahahaha! Good one!👍😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂
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tree deaths, 4 victims.
It's called an accent lol
@@TheLooocie I should be alot of things...
The one, even remotely positive thing about this, is that his sister doesn’t remember the horrendous night that it happened. Poor girl.
wont one day it'll all come back to her though
@@mysupersecretprofilenoonek8640 not necessarily, it depends on her injury. I hope it doesn't to spare her the torment.
The less she remembers the safer she is .
@@johnk4396 yes, that was my exact point
@Chris Kibodeaux Amnesia is a real thing that happens
How ironic. A well secured house to keep out intruders... Sadly, the enemy was within all along. 😔
deep
Wrong
@@qudizzle1 Yeah, about as deep as a toilet bowl!
That's probably what tipped the police off because it was such a secured building
But you'd be surprised who the enemy was...
I love that Mike don’t always pin the camera on himself like a lot of true crime creators do, instead he gives us picture, footages in between.
Same, and I love how natural & comfortable he is as well. Really fun and easy to watch.
That’s exactly what I love so much about this channel
Between him and the operator I can’t tell who is higher.
Both on tik although they sound more like they are coming down. Sleep deprivation.
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True
Africa! some how this is how all our service workers, employed by government, sound.
She thought it was a prank at first cause it sounded like a laugh at the beginning of the call.
He went out for a "calming smoke" before calling emergency services, even though his sister was still moving during that phone call? Yeah, absolutely appalling. Glad he's behind bars.
Absolutely disgusting. Claiming in court "I couldn't help them"
Honestly since he's the murderer I don't understand why he would violently attack her so badly and not finish the job? It's risky isn't it? And he clearly wasn't in a rush.
@@feroxartem This is the first time I saw that video even though I was familiar with the case.
He looks like he doesn't even understand the question! Even though it was one if my first questions when I first heard about the case.
Horrible.
I'm a stoner medically, honestly I would never fucking harm my own family, and I dont like mine for many reasons (like addiction) but not enough to hurt them and leave them to fucking suffer for a "calming smoke"
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11:30 "Had you ever thought of the possibility of consoling them in their death? ... they're dying... make if comfortable..." completely gets him unexpectedly and leaves him off balance. He is literally speechless.
Yes he couldn't answer them
Henri’s story is completely unbelievable. It’s absurd. His entire family was viciously attacked by a man with an axe, yet the attacker takes out a knife to (non-fatally) stab him? Nope.
"The blood was flowing down the stairs like a waterfall.".. The absolute most chilling sentence ive ever heard in 33 yrs of life. ...and this guy was sooooooo calm during the 911 call.
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. As far as the 911 call he almost sounded annoyed that he was being asked all these questions,... true sociopath,.. unable to relate to, or even fake genuine human emotion.
To be fair, I do say it like I've just awoken to a house full of deadness and waterfall blood. :(
To be fair a lot of men go into shell shock and aren't able to show their emotions properly. It's not a negative statement about men just a factual one. I prefer to go off actual evidence and inconsistencies in interrogations rather than strange reactions to trauma as there are all types.
It's no use crying over spilt blood, as the saying goes
107 call
The 911 call had all the emotion of ordering a pizza....
Agreed....almost like Stephen Hawking ordering a pizza
The weirdest questions I've ever heard on a 911 call.
I disagree
This is a stupid thing to think. I've been in shock. I was very calm and monotone while I was bleeding out in front of my baby sister after being hit by a car going 45 while I was crossing the street. I was hit so hard it knocked my boots and my pants of. Shock doesn't allow you to feel the damage, physical or emotional. It's survival.
I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm saying that's an ignorant reason to say someone is guilty of something.
@@elvinendalee Your point of view will get FAR MORE recognition and consideration if you don't begin with "this is a stupid thing to think". You lose all credibility and sound like a petulant child, try presenting your ideas without attacking other ideas.
Hey That Chapter..
Here’s an interesting fact..
I used to be Henri’s guitar teacher when he was in high school.. in Perth Australia.. I also taught one of his good school friends at the time.. hearing the news when this all came out was shocking.. having spent considerable time with him over a year or so.. you could never have guessed this was going to happen..
During that time he came across as a perfectly normal teen.. you can never really know a person..
That's what drugs do to people! That's why you would think grown men who supposed to be responsible human beings would know that drugs are BAD!
Dazza 85 I used to live in a bad part of zagreb and there drugs where very very common we never even dared to go outside in the night or alone the school was bad and everybody had bad grades and I was also very sad and unmotivated even tho I loved school when before I immigrated to croatia thank god that I live far away from there and everything is going great this just shows how drugs have a worse affect than poverty in some places (not extreme poverty but poverty where people have food and a place to stay at but very hardly earn more money than what is considered minimum to survive
Thank you for basically adding nothing
Hmmm, maybe, just maybe....he’s innocent. Have you looked past the headlines and rumors? If the media portrayal of a person doesn’t jive with the actual living, breathing person you knew, maybe...the media is wrong? There’s faaaaar more to the story than Mike gave. He gave a very brief and somewhat inaccurate synopsis of the case. Do a little digging.
Dazza 85 It was never, ever proven he was on drugs. His toxicology the day of the murders was negative, for everything. Including alcohol. The prosecution was never able to substantiate the rumor beyond some guy named “Mark” who lived in a shack and picked out his picture, after it had been in the news. That’s literally it. His medical history showed zero evidence of drug use. Pathetic how easy it is to convince the populace of a lie. It’s actually terrifying how easy it is. Next time you want to jump on the bandwagon, stop and think “what if this was me? What if this was a loved one?” Is this how you’d want to be treated? Think you’ll never, ever have trouble with the law? Yeah, well, literally everyone who finds themselves there never thought it could ever happen to them. Funny how something like “innocent until proven guilty” and “beyond a reasonable doubt” are completely thrown out the window...until it’s you on the receiving end.
You know what's so sad? Our Mike won't ever run out of cases to cover. There will always be murders to discuss and try to understand. I'm glad for Mike to have this fantastic channel and lots of cases to discuss, because he does it better than anyone else on here.
But still sad to know there will always be plenty to choose from 😚
The good old "Masked man" usually of dark complexion and that uses household items after having done all the work to enter without trace.
Yeah that guy gets around a lot.
Because most times it actually works..
...and leaves with no money or valuables
Please don't call me racist. Oscar Pistorius used the black men defense as well.
@hailey gizella ya 5min in i was maybe feeling a little sry for him bc of his addiction then he dropped the black perpetrator defense -_-
The total lack of expression on his face as the judge reads his sentencing is absolutely chilling
You should watch him laugh in a later interview from jail yikes he's 😬 😳
@@stungstung2424 Where is this interview? I’ve researched as much as I can about this case and have never seen a single interview with him. I’d like to see it as I’ve suspected he was innocent but perhaps this interview would change my mind.
@@genuineimitation8799 I'm glad you replied, I lost my comment and realised I was watching a dr Phil episode about another young boy who murdered his mum with a sledgehammer, when I wrote my comment here, I thought this was the same guy. Funny, that this guy seems to have the same split personality.
@@stungstung2424 I know exactly who you’re talking about. That case was a truly awful one. I remember he laughed when he remembered the sledgehammer coming down on her head 😳
@@genuineimitation8799 Love Each Day may have been mistaken about Henri but you should have seen him during trials, him and his girlfriend were living a regular life, you them happy, laughing, eating pizza, going out as though he hadn't just lost his entire family in thd most gruesome way...
Google Henri van Brede and girlfriend in between trials
"Can you please just send an ambulance." _"And a Large Pizza, 2 Dozen Cookies, a 12 Pack of Coke, a Pony, a..."_
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Damn that sounds good. Especially the pony
And a big bag of "tik".
@@ravestationlive hah
Murder is hard ya work up an appetite
I’m surprised Henry hadn’t died of old age by the time the police got there at the speed that call operator was going.
The creepy part is, if he’d tried to pin it on Marley’s boyfriend, he might have got away with it.
Nope. They checked security cameras and registry of the main gate so they knew of ever person who came and went for days. The perimeter fence/ boundary wall also had no alarms triggered before or after the time of the attack. Knowing how good some security estates are in South Africa will help you understand how difficult (but not impossible) it would be for an intruder to go unnoticed especially when thoroughly investigated. Other estates in SA... not so much.
Omg I agree.
Surprised you didn't mention that the 911 call took 30 mins, the woman was completely unable to locate the street and thought it was a prank call. The whole call was a weird train wreck, he was super calm and never got angry. Imagine trying to call a cab and explaining for 20 mins your whole neighborhood, then add on that oh yeah your entire family just got attacked
Oh-I thought she was keeping him on the line while sending police. Actually, at first I thought "This woman is an idiot," then decided to give her the benefit of the doubt.
really? it was presented like he brought that up right away. what was shared was very frustrating from both sides 😩
I just can’t imagine how devastating it must to be to realize the person murdering you is your own immediate family...your own child, your own sibling. The confusion & emotional torment they must have felt in those short moments is too much...
Ugh. I can't even _imagine_ being woken up to realize my brother had attacked my parents & was coming at me with violent intent. You'd be so unable to comprehend what was happening, then feel crushing betrayal. It's honestly impressive the daughter managed to defend herself at all (it was probably instinctual at that point) I'm glad she can't remember it, for her sake.
Omg I couldn’t even imagine
What shocks me is that when a family member survives they are loyal to the killer!
And the worst part is, it's not even that uncommon.
Absolutely horrendous
That emergency phone call was the worst acting I have ever heard.
YES,I AGREE 😢😢😢👍🏼
Gumby. Watch Mike's vid on the Gumby cult. 😆
What about when he was on the stand being asked why he didn't try to help or comfort them as they were dying? That was some shit acting if I ever saw any. BAD faker. lol
You must not have seen the Prince Andrew interview. 🙄
@@VioletJoy I think he & Andrew went to the same acting coach. Ha. Pretty freaking bad!
Paramedic: 40 years career
Mike: turdy-nine
Paramedic: Well, actually...
Mike: turdy-nine
What gets me is the wounds on the dad, who died protecting his daughter from his son
That's probably what saved her IMO
Wasn't he protecting the son? Still a devoted moment from a desperate father. Anyway, so glad she survived. Still a shocking tragedy.
So heartbreaking
He was protecting his son Rudy, who was the first to be attacked.
The prosecutor things that's what started the whole thing. That.henri killed his brother in a fit of rage and henri had to kill the whole family so there would be no witnesses
The dad was protecting the son, Rudy. The daughter likely survived bc she fought back and absorbed most of those blows with her hands while defending herself. Moral of the story: fight like your life depends on it.
somewhat I am glad the girl can’t remember what happened, maybe she can live her life with less painful memories!
Doesnt gace the raw trauma of the actual event (im sure still alot od truram) and also loaded with millions, atleast she sees somewhat of a silverlining in this situation
@@coolumloxksmiths1901 bruh what?
NO I THINK NOT KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED IS UNBEARABLE
subwaysurfer she knows what happened, but can’t remember the details, and thanks god for that!
That is he kind of glass half full shit I need
"He was married to his wife...."
- How unorthodox.
yes, very. Not many people are married these days, to their wives or anyone else!
@@AwfulDog1
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Well ... he could be married to his husband... nowadays people can't be sure what "married" means
@Umer Tracker the hell does that mean?
@Umer Tracker oh, you mean you are? I can only agree.
The way dispatch said "Suspects still on scene?" was like "Do you wanna confess now orr...."
I feel bad for laughing
you can tell he's guilty just from his voice when he called the police.
When he asked for an amublance and explained and the operator was like, You need Police, then?
I was like....GUILTY!
suspect still there? ummmmmmmm
*_bossmanviking_*
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Sure, jan
He was stressed, he had fullon stuttering
At the end when the judge was reading out the sentence, the guy that killed his family looked completely empty, his eyes were black and dead
What a sad story
Just a curt nod after each “guilty”.
If you see the photos of him from when the murders happen to the day of sentencing, there is a marked difference in his appearance. He lost a fair amount of weight and his eyes become more sallow and dark. It’s like seeing the life drain out of him. People point to this as proof of his guilt, but I question: what would happen to you, if you were under such extreme duress as watching your whole family die, then looking at life in prison for something you didn’t do? What if...he IS innocent? The investigation was a joke. Only 35% of this alleged “fortress like fence” was actually covered by CCTV. They had had numerous robberies in that community in the months leading up to the murders. There was an alarm that went off the night of the murders, with the security dismissing it and resetting it. The family often kept the back door unlocked for the domestic staff. Moreover, the supposed drug abuse was NEVER proven. It all stems from some guy living in a shack that picked out Henri’s picture AFTER the murders were reported in the news. My point is, I don’t think his guilt was proven beyond a reasonable doubt. People point to his affect on the emergency call. Well, I know people like this, who keep a lot of emotion inside. Who act cool but are not inside. Not that they’re bottling things up, they’re just not hyper-emotional. Not everyone is the same. And I despise people who say “that’s not what I would do”. How do you know? I honestly have no idea how I’d react in such a situation. Some people emotionally shut down. I’ve heard from many survivors that they don’t have an emotional response until hours, sometimes days after. There’s a sense of it all being so unreal.
I’m not saying he didn’t do it. But there’s a lot of unanswered questions and way too much conjecture to say he absolutely did.
He was truly defeated, he held those tears back. This is by far my favorite episode. The judge spoke so well that his words really resonated
@@genuineimitation8799 I've been in that position. I never murdered anyone or committed any serious crimes but over a decade ago I had to go before a judge guilty or not it's a scary experience.I was sentenced to 6 months for something I was innocent for & I felt panicked inside and felt faint but obviously had to hold it together in the courtroom.
It truly is guilty until proven otherwise...
Free Range I’m sorry that happened to you. One thing I’ve discovered, and never really thought about before I started down this particular rabbit hole, is just how common stories like yours are. People convicted of heinous crimes and later exonerated by DNA evidence. Convictions that hinged on witness testimony that later turned out to have been coerced by police, and on and on. It’s frightening just how easy it is to be convicted of a crime with little evidence. You are right. It’s not the prosecution that needs to prove it’s case, it’s the defense that must prove their clients innocence.
Can we all just appreciate the time Mike posts videos? Always when I am eating lunch or on break. Perfect timing!!
Always tree o'clock! Hope your day's going well!
@@ThatChapter 😂😂😂❤❤👍
That Chapter I just got off of work but I feel
Right? Me too, so many times I sit down and Yay!! Another TC :)
For those saying "why didn't he finish her off" he no doubt believed he had. Why didn't the supposed attacker(s) finish him off? And leave him virtually unscathed? As for the drugs...he was arrested for it, it wasn't just a "rumour"
Plenty of evidence pointing to his guilt
so he didn't call the ambulance for 3 hours? how did his sister survive wow
GOD does the impossible"I'm no detective or police officer my common sense definitely guilty
@@takeshiacruz943 There never was a god, no god exist today and there will never be a god.
@@clarencetuurngait7628 While you are entitled to believe what you want, The FACT of the matter is there is ZERO proof of the existence of God and ZERO proof of the lack of existence of God and to claim either one way or the other as 100% true is foolish. One thing that is 100% true is that when you die you will either find out you were wrong.....or you will never know you were right.
AL there is proof everyday that there is no god. Just saying....😔
@@Sickoflife look around you, look at yourself in the mirror and then tell me again theres no god.
where did everything came from then? magically exploded into existence? nah, theres a creator and the bible explains everything perfectly fine in a rational and logical way. sure, you can chose to not believe it in the end, thats what its all about, the free will. thats why adam and eve got actually removed from eden, and thats whats started everything. but eh, most people prefer to not use their own mind and just feed on occult mainstream media
They tried to protect themselves from the cruel world outside, but the real threat was from within.
Frank Kang Poetically put.
Hey, WAIT A DAMN MINUTE!
You stole that from a fortune cookie I read the other day 🤨
Spills51 you read a fortune cookie about people being murdered?
@@aml72 No, my fortune cookie said "ByeJiggas your next baby momma"
Super deep, bro.
dude, the little blackouts and pauses, I love that you give people time to process, instead of yelling facts and playing jingles in my face :)
Black-outs...yea...on this one i needed it
schissch what is wrong with people...I've done amphetamines....it just made me want to clean my house...my neighbors house..
then clean the street when i got thru with the immediate area....never did it make me wanna hurt anyone...{bad drugs...these days!}
That social worker literally said "I don't see any reason why he would do something like this, so he couldn't have done something like this" (18:22)
Like, what? Was she expecting to talk to any murderer and go "You know? I really see where you were coming from. You had good reason to murder those people"
Edit: After listening to what she said a couple more times, I think her second sentence was more that she couldn't imagine that he could do this, and not that she didn't believe he did it.
But boy, those were some of the most convoluted sentences I have ever heard
Is she even suppose to be talking about a patient?
If she ever does say that...lock her up too.
@@rachelraquel758 I believe in cases where a person is/can be a risk to themselves or others, a social worker/therapist/whatever can disclose those details to the police. I would imagine that would also apply in cases of murder
She is also apparently completely ignorant about DRUGS. If one is addicted to something similar to METH, there's *no way* to know what they're capable of!
What got me was when she talked about "in my professional opinion....." The only professional opinion this stupid cow would be qualified to expound on, would be the emptying of septic tanks - with a bucket. What a cretin. She would rather believe that Van Breda's fictictious random "black guy in a ski mask" (how many black guys in S. Africa even own ski masks?) would behave with such bestiality - for no damn reason (nothing stolen), right?? AND leave behind a physically strong able bodied male eye witness - with barely a scratch on him? Right? I wanted to reach into my computer screen and slap HER upside the head with a goddamn axe myself.... Fucking retarded twat.
My sister is still alive and moving around but I need a “calming smoke” before I get help........yeah. THAT makes sense - IF YOU’RE A MURDERER! 😳😳😳
Lucky for her he didn't finish her off when he saw her moving. I wonder why... she could have been a witness. It's not like he knew she was going to lose her memory.
@@Neophema If it really was an attack caused by the effects of drugs on him, then reason is the last thing to consider. Who knows what went on in his brain after he came to himself and saw what he'd done.
I am from South Africa and I remember this case being on the news, even for our country this act of violence towards a family is extreme. Watched so many of your videos from all around the world and I think you did a good job explaining all the points of this one too. So shout out from SA.
I agree. How could we ever forget that case. I wish there was some update on Marli though.
@@cherricola8460 I don't think there will be, and I think that's for the best tbh. I'd love to hear if she's okay, but I also think she'd wanna put this behind her.
@ThomasAfrica I agree with you....I just wonder If she knew what happened! Wish her only love and strength going forever
I'm making an educated guess that the only reason he used the axe and knife was because there were no guns available to him at the time. Since you live there I ask what are the laws regarding guns in SA?
FYI the "calming smoke" was later admitted to be more tick, not weed.
Tic Tok
Ya don’t stop
Wth is tick?
@@bekahward8710 meth
@@bekahward8710 It just means meth in South africa
It's tik not tick. I read that they didn't find any drugs in his system that night.
I'm from South Africa and followed this case, perhaps the papers kept that part out because I wouldn't be surprised if he tikked before calling the police. Tik is a huge problem here, especially in Cape Town.
I live in Stellenbosch. It's so cool to hear you cover this South African case.
He hardly has any emotion. In the phone call. In his testimony. When he's hearing the verdict. It's so creepy
And he gets an girlfriend.
How will the boys ever compete?
@@jayw115 meanwhile I can't even get a text back smh
Psychopaths have no feelings.
I thought same. Definitely has a meth face especially around his eyes. He's creepy for sure and his face looking stone during the verdicts was telling.
Not defending him, but some people “ shut down” during traumatic events and can be mistaken for emotionless.
I find people that obviously fake emotions like that escort in Florida who tried to get her husband killed much creepier.
How can someone with so much in their pockets, have so little in their hearts? Maybe that's why I am poor...My heart takes up too much space! This is sad!
AHAHAH nice
SerialShagster some believe that ur caste switches upon death, the poor become rich and the rich become poor
Oooooor maybe you just can't start a business to make a lot of money
I think you're onto something. But it also might be and you have more brains in your head taking up space. I've had the displeasure of working with and knowing lots of rich people. They are often one of the following: incompetent, shallow, boring, heartless....if the elites ever get their Georgia guide stone wish of a half million people on this planet, of just them. This earth will be a literal heartless hell.
Your a women arnt you
"He was married to his wife"
You don't say?
Hahaha..😂😂😂
I was thinking that too
Some guys are I belive LOL
Haha
My dad was married to his wife before he met my mother. But after he got divorced and married my mother he was once again married to his wife.
Yikes, I thought we have escaped the eyes of the world. Hello from South Africa..
😂 Me to bra
Nah you blokes get this deadbeat, but you also get that mammoth-bollocked guy driving the armourcar through an ambush.
@@pcppbadminton Leo Prinsloo is badass Agent Smith..😎
Neks🤣🤣
@@tomscreativeselepe678 gosh now I have to go watch that one more time!!! 🇿🇦👊🏼
This ex Boyfriend must had a Heartattack hearing what happend
Not until police found his txt to her.
You can hear the pain/anger in the Judges voice as he sentences him.
Theres more remorse in strangers eyes than what he shows. Theres not a chance in hell he didnt do it.
A “starry night” tie??? Really??! Bit of a fun tie to be wearing to court
i didnt even notice that LMAOOOO
Wow just wow. A wild-eyed 'social worker' who cant tell the difference between a cold-blooded psychopath and an innocent person. I don't know how long this person has been qualified in social work, but I sincerely hope, that her career in this type of work is a short one. I have never seen anyone less suited to be in a 'caring' profession! .
South Africa is not exactly known for high standards
the eyes of this man are just dead
He's no man he's a monster pure evil!
They look sad to me.🥺😢
If his eyes look sad to you, they’re sad he got caught.
Do you mean the eyes themselves or what's around the eyes?
I am from South Africa!!! Yay. The day they put the emergency call on the radio, everyone was like, this guy is guilty! What a prick! Do Oscar Pistorius please!
Good call!
Angela Rivers tink tink murdered his wife
His story is less plausible than Pistorius
The Pistorius case was ludicrous. This judge , in the Van Breda murder case knew what he was doing and handled this dreadful case with dignity and intelligence. Cannot say the same for the female judge in the Pistorius case who handed out a farcical sentence initially and made the whole court system in SA a laughing stock.
I'm not a certified body language analyst, but when the judge reads out the punishment of three life sentences, it sure looks like Henri subconsciously nods in agreement or understanding each time.
Yes! I also saw that!
That definitely seemed really weird. To nod yes, along with a life sentence.
"Body language analysis" is complete pseudoscience anyway. I don't see why you find it weird that he would nod. People usually nod along when they aren't speaking, to show that they are listening.
@@amityislandchum I'm not sure why you would disregard body language analysis. Sure, it's not an exact science because we are not inside the head of the individual being examined, but emotions and thought patterns really do manifest in one's body language. It's definitely important and hopefully one day it can be made more precise.
@@amityislandchum It's also not just about showing that they're listening. They're showing that they're actively engaged and either understand or agree with what's being said.
The south African accent is the most unique in the world imo. It's hard to imitate. I wish Mike did more 😂
😂😂😂😂
11 official languages 😂😂😂
I'm South African and I think we have one of the worst accents in the world.
I really like listening to Trevor Noah speak.
@@supaflyza there are so many accents in South Africa - the English accent (which sounds quite posh), the Afrikaans accent when speaking English (which I think is quite bad), the English accent of African native language speakers.
I couldn't imagine getting my head smashed in by a hatchet . I've got my thumb with a hammer and the pain is insane .. To be that cruel to your own family
I have been on a "That Chapter" binge lately and these videos are only getting better with each upload! Keep up the great work Mike!
It was scary to see Henri's eyes .....when he was laying in the ambulance his eyes looked like the life was gone from them and later video of him in the courtroom . He looked so blank and void of emotion .....so horrible . I am thankful his sister is alive and will keep my hopes up for her as she has a life and is still loved by many . I believe Henri is where he needs to stay .
Dead eyes~ no emotion or feeling whatsoever~ scary as heck!
It’s so sad that sometimes members of your own family are incapable of love and would murder you if they could get away with it!
When the judge was reading out his sentence one by one... he nodded with acknowledgement. He was 100% guilty and his body language revealed it.... so sad for their family.
Yeah I noticed that. Very, very subtle nods, but they were there.
Exactly, if I had been accused of this I'd be in tears and shaking my head in disbelief.
@@roboCL0WN you're spot on and that's how a genuinely non-guilty person would react.
@lana lake that was something I noticed as well :) the world needs more like that.
Barely blinked. No high could top that feeling.
"As a professional I cant see it..." Then you need to find a new profession lady. Duh.
Jim L so true lolol
Exactly!!!
Reminds me of the juror in the last case I watched that said she wouldn't be able to concentrate on the trial because the defendant was too good looking. These women so bowled over by a handsome face that they're blinded to anything else are really pathetic.
She looks crazy herself
What makes you think you know him better than a professional working with him for months? The social worker is inept, yet you somehow think you know him better? Tell me, how many conversations have you had with him? The only fool here is you.
The 911 operator wasn’t doing anyone any favours
pastel stars
right? Oh you need an ambulance? Your family was attacked? You need police. What’s that? They’re all dead? I’ve waited too long to contact emergency services because I’m a twat waffle? Whoopsie doo. Do you need an ambulance though?
Honestly tho, i bet that phonecall was really helpful in catching him, she stayed on the line as operators are supposed to. Help was probably underway the moment he said they needed an ambulance.
@@LAKXx Lol then you don't know anything about South Africa, my ignorant friend
MrGpt2010 This happened in South Africa. She has a South African accent. In other words, normal for the region. Ain’t everyone American
yknow.
They still managed to save his sister tho
Anyone who gets charged with obstruction of justice should be fined the rough amount of money law enforcement had to put into chasing those fake leads.
Marley had a sliced jugular and survived for hours? That's kind of amazing.
all this wealth, opportunity in life and thats what he did..
Other rich brats have gone the same way. And then they stay at their uncle's until they go to the chookie.
They always lose consciousness at the most convenient time.
I'm South African and had a good laugh when you said "Lekker Bru". Nailed it!!
It’s "That Black Guy” again!
He must be exhausted because he seems to be everywhere! 🙄SMH
The Shepp
I understand. I used to live there. I’m speaking mostly, as an American, to our propensity to blame “some black guy” for a crime. An allegation made by the guilty party who is usually white.
Sometimes though a couple of Mexican looking dudes step in to share the workload 😉
They are
It’s always the same black guy, I think that’s the dude that kidnapped Susan Smiths children. He’s everywhere.
He gets around
Shout out from SA, this was an extreme case for the country, even with our high crime rate.
Anothet super interesting and shocking case you can look into is the Griquatown murders where Don Steenkamp, aged 16, killed his family on Easter Weekend. Another crazy story.
Yes, that's the one I also want to see.
Awe my bru, got to rep South Africa!
Mike should do a double feature with the one you suggested and one that happened in Fresno, California, also on Easter. Dana Ewell.
Awe ma se kind
Awe my people... South African reps..
I had to laugh when he said “he was married to his wife” ya don’t say?
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To be sure😂
Fat to Fierce also made me chuckle.
Hahaha.
Accidentally woke my hubby, trying not to laugh(to not wake him. Fail) 😅
Some are married to their work. This man was married to his wife 🤣 I'll see myself out.
You shouldn't be a social worker if you can't see he's a sociopath.
Look at her. She’s clearly batshit or just an idiot.
She has the IQ of a tennis match.
Crazy eyes 👀
Maybe he is but you can't tell from a 20 min video.
I confess. I watch these videos just to hear mike pronounce “three”.
Treeh...
Me too ha, i laughed when he said 'three' which sounded like 'tree' then he said 'chopped with an axe'.
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Tee Dee and “Turd” for Third lol
I love him so much❤️💕 lol
I love his content, but it gets to my OCD when he can pronounce "th" sometimes, but other times he can't.
I put it down to some underlying condition he has.
There is another RUclipsr who does creepy scary videos.
His content is really really good but I can't watch it because of his voice, it's really whiney and he draws his words out, just can't stand it.
Couldnt think of his name so had to Google most annoying RUclipsrs he topped the list LOL
Its "chills"
Motive isn't required to be established when determining someone's guilt because as in this case, the guilty party can be just batshit crazy.
"Are there any suspects on scene, Sir?"
Yes, MEEEE !!!
Lmfao
Ty for cracking me up
That social worker may as well have said, "I am unfit for my career." As a social worker, this woman scares me. I hope no one ever seeks her (dis)Services.
These Emergency number phone calls are hard to listen to sometimes. I just feel like if I was laying somewhere dying and my life depended on an ambulance responding quickly, I'd be screwed.
Skullface Studios I know right? Who wants to waste their dying breath playing 21 questions with an emergency phone operator telling you, you need police not an ambulance...ffs
@@frankboff1260 EMS is dispatched the second an address is given. You're kept on the line to either stay away from the crime scene, be calmed down, or kept alert if you are injured. Any pertinent information you may have is given to EMS while en route.
Dude, listen to a longer clip of the call, it is crazy. It’s like 30-45 minutes of the 911 operator saying “I can’t find de Zalze vineyards, I can’t find Stellanbosch, etc.” Van Breda keeps explaining where it is, used google maps to help her and she’s just like brain dead. That’s how I heard about this case because it was in a video for worst 911 calls ever.
Guillermo Not in SA, for this call at least, the rest of the hour long call is this 911 operator bitch telling him she can’t find the address so she can’t send the ambulance
@@guillermo3564 Usually this is the case. Just this one time, everything was handled in the worst possible way (someone else here is suggesting to listening to the longer version of the call - a bunch of idiots) Appalling.
The social worker most likely fell in love with him. If you can't see that he did it. She shouldn't be working for the government.
She looks crazy 🤪 herself
Whaa'??! How could you fall in love with him - he is just as exciting as a wet sleeping bag during Winter, outside, on Greenland - she needs help then...
@@dortesandal4303 exactly
@@jaynegs76 I rarely agree, very Happy we agree on this☀️, best wishes❤️
she's a member of Fat Lives Matter
Thats Judges speech was so profound. Yet that pos had no expression on his face, not tears in his eyes. Smh.
It seems universal that emergency call centres that field calls are all slow on the uptake. They all make people repeat things over and over, ask for the same info over and over, ask questions the caller may not have a clue about, and they all ask everyone to pretty much solve the crime before the police and ambulance get there. How many times did this guy request an ambulance? Sheesh.
Mike: "Heeeey you."
Me: "Hey Mike."
Outloud.
Every time.
🙋♂️😂
Your cats don’t say hi?
Every. Time.
Wow, how many times have you seen twenty one pilots?
Give mike a Merry Christmas by donating to his page💙🎄🎆💷🎄
He did it because his parents stopped giving him an allowance. His dad was a good man protecting his family
Literally none of that was proven. Total conjecture.
@@genuineimitation8799 that's all we have. Do you have a better explanation?
avithemostill Maybe he’s telling the truth. Home invasions, where murder is THE only motive, are not in any way out of the ordinary for SA. It’s also not uncommon, at all, for the murder weapon to come from the home, but in Henri’s case, it was never proven. They had two witnesses that testified in this regard: Marli’s boyfriend who said he saw a black headed axe outside by their fire pit and the domestic worker that said she saw a similar one in the pantry. She stated, clearly, that she could not say it was THE SAME AXE, only that it looked similar. I wonder how many green headed (not black), wooden handled axes are in homes all across SA right now. Probably a lot. I could probably go to Home Depot right now and buy something similar. I also find it interesting that his father had over 25 businesses, dealing in hundreds of millions (if not billions) of dollars, his brother (Martin’s) said he was “going to change SA”. Well, perhaps there are those who don’t want SA to change, or to change the way Martin intended. There’s a ridiculous amount of corruption in both the SA government and police force. It’s going through massive issues right now, there are farm massacres constantly there. I think there’s a possibility the Van Breda’s were targeted. The estate was not anywhere near as “impenetrable” as the prosecution stated. The defense had very reasonable, if not compelling, testimony and evidence to the contrary. There’s a lot to this case that makes it not so cut and dry. Western justice relies on two absolutely crucial edicts, one: INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty (not guilty by the court of public opinion until proven innocent, an impossibility for anyone) and two: guilty beyond a REASONABLE doubt. In other words, the accused is innocent until and unless the state can PROVE GUILT beyond any reasonable doubt. I do not think the state of SA did this by any stretch. They never did state a motive. Never even brought it up. Why didn’t the state posit drug abuse? Because they couldn’t prove it. No evidence for it at all. Why didn’t they state money as a motivation? Because Henri wasn’t going to inherit that money anyway. This according to the family, family friends and the lawyer representing the estate. That money went into a trust. It wasn’t like he was magically going to get millions. Not at all. So, the fact that he was sober at the time of the murders (proven), he had no monetary motive (provable) and to this day has never said a negative thing about any of his family speaks volumes. He’s not psychopathic (proven) and has no history of violence. All this, plus so much more, leads me to believe he is likely innocent of this crime.
Suuuuure
@@genuineimitation8799 I'm sure you'd leave your kids alone with him, right? 🙄
Idk why you didn’t report on the status of Marli. She is thriving and even graduated college soon after all this. She is as beautiful as ever and doing great in life.
That's a lot of beautiful.
Ahh nvm. It was the pose picture. Just googled her. She ok but not my cup of tea
I so hope this is true (no offense, but too lazy to Google myself and obviously not everything on the Internet is true).
@@Itried20takennames it's true! She isn't my cup of tea! ;)
@@atgblue1 who gaf.
It’s actually a Blessing in Disguise that Marli couldn’t remember anything . She didn’t need to know how terrifying that attack was. So that’s good she won’t have flashbacks. All she needs to know is her family was murdered & her brother is responsible. Spare her the cruel details . 😔
Would an innocent man stand emotionless and in silence while being told he was found guilty of killing 3 family members? It's so obvious. He has an aunt and a girlfriend who think he didn't do it. The credulity of some people is astonishing.
@NIKKIE NOVA Be upset
@NIKKIE NOVA upset and frustrated and probably in tears if he was innocent. But that's not the case with him.
@NIKKIE NOVA Plead his innocence while in tears of frustration would be a normal response of an innocent man.
Yes normal people can become emotionally detached after trauma. It's normal. Also, the judge normally has already warned everyone not to have emotional outbursts before they start the sentencing.
@@Preservestlandry Agreed. Most people have never faced anything even close to this. I imagine, if he is innocent, it would seem like a waking nightmare. A genuine “cannot believe this is happening” kind of moment. Most people think they’d be the hero, they’d fight the intruder off, they’d scream, they’d do this, do that. When it comes down to it though, chances are you will freeze. It isn’t just fight or flight. It’s fight, flight and freeze, with freezing being far more common. They’re thinking of how they would respond while sitting in their living room, calm, in no danger. Your brain does NOT respond the same during trauma as it does when not under extreme stress. I’d say being sentenced to three life sentences plus 15 years is an extremely stressful event.
It comes down to this: however you *think* you’d act in such an extreme situation is likely nothing like what you’d actually do. People know nothing about human behavior, much less seen someone in a traumatic situation or been through one themselves.
The emergency call, his acting is so bad!.
sounds like on drugs ...
@Eammon Wright wait? What? He actually said that? How did I miss that one lol.
@@babybluecheeks it's from Cable Guy lol
I listened to it on a podcast a while back. It was long as crap but crazy on both sides the 911 operator was horrible at her job and he’s horrible at acting.
His new “gf” believes him though 🙄
Eammon Wright I think it’s the same one? I remember the call was really long and he kept giving idiotic answers . Like not saying where he lived or changing it etc like he was purposely stalling first responders.
To the social-worker the the end: You cannot look for a motive or logic when youre dealing with a psychopathic drug addict who has harmed his family
That social worker had crazy eyes. I think she was probably in love with him or something
People like her are a huge danger to society, enablers to psychopaths
She had the hots for him.
While the judge was reading him his sentencing, it appeared to me that he was feeling a rather strong emotion internally leading up to and at the point his mother's name was read.
Another case of a spoiled brat, plain and simple.
@D Zuke the dude was a meth head who killed his family with a hatchet. I think "spoiled brat" is way too simplistic and doesn't cover the full scope of fucked-up-ness going on with the guy.
D Zuke I don’t know when I see kids throwing a tantrum in the store I think “wow spoiled brat”. When I see a murderer I think of something a bit more extreme...
Ok boomer. Or, like, maybe it was the meth he was smoking? Lol
@@kschutt9562 Taking an axe to your own parents and a sister. Maniac! 😳
@D Zuke I don't no if its true but alway thought crystal meth made people horny....wow I was told wrong wtf lol..... *EDIT* I just thought that perhaps when they dont6have the drug then instead of being horny it could turn to murderous tendencies in a small percentage of people??
that kills me. 15 years for attempted murder. so because she survived, the punishment is so much less. YOU TRY to kill some one. it should be automatic life no parole.
I never understood this. Ever. The intention was exactly the same. The intention was to end a persons life. The intention is what the sentencing should be based on not the result of success or failure of the intention
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@ARMY bts where are you from?
If you think that that's not enough you should watch more South African murder cases. You would be LIVID.
Welcome to South Africa, apparently I’m supposed to be proud 🧐
I count learning about family murders to my productive time.
Absolutely, never know when it'll come in handy
That Chapter 😂😂😂💖
1Schruller1 are you planning something? Lol!!!
I count learning about family murders as my PROTECTIVE time. Any time I think about trusting a man, I think again! It protects me!
Rest up because the Rhoden Family Massacre, will eventually bring the accused before a jury of their peers. Expect it to be a frenzy.
The look on his face when the verdict was read - that’s as guilty-looking as it gets.
Everyone's a body language expert now.
“were arrested for possession of the devil’s lettuce” he says as i look down at my bong
SAMEEE
Saaaame oops
Me too 🤣🤷🏻♀️ It’s recreationally legal in my state though.
I bet there's not meth in your bong tho, but there was in his. Big mistake
Lmao....I know right. Well mines a bowl not a bong...wish I still had my bong...may he rest in pieces 😩
Ain’t it funny that this “black man” came into a heavily secured neighborhood killed an entire family and forgot to kill one?....I’m no genius but why leave one dude alive when you just butchered the other 4? And then decide it to steal anything?
And of course not to mention that none of the cameras, security or anyone else was able to capture or see the black man. I mean LOL!!!
That place looked like a prison!.
Nah, that POS got what he deserved.
He blamed it on a black guy because it might be quite plausible in SA. There's a massive anti white sentiment over there and all kinds of crazy race related crimes going on, especially at the time
@@cannedgoodness9633 No. That is factually incorrect. Those stories were made up my fascists and white supremacist farmers in south Africa to cater to the MAGA alt right bigots in the USA.
Check out the video by the channel "Shaun" on this that debunks this dangerous and hate-fueled fake news.
@@ManiacalViolet There are police reports mate, I didn't just pull the idea out of my arse
Maybe they couldn't see the black man because all the lights were out :)
@@annnoel9819 My white friends have a similar affect when the sun is out.
NO signs of remorse, grief, anger, protests of innocence. The look on his face: Unmoving, poker-faced, cold. The face of someone who's guilty. Who knows what went on behind closed doors. The social worker probably fell under his spell.
I could not beilieve that she said "As a professional I can´t believe he did that". On what grounds is she stating that? I agree with you that this woman was manipulated by him
i do not advocate judging people by their outward appearance and manner of speaking, but i have to say it it glaringly obvious there is something off about that social worker, clearly not very intelligent. really disturbing
Or the face of someone who has lost everything in life and has nothing to lose anymore. Funny how these days facts don't matter and feelings seem to be everything.
@@nw6070 What i personally find more disturbing is that you think you know more about her while you didn't spend one single second with her than she knows about this guy while spending hours on end with him. It's scary because it shows how much humanity has degraded.
@@TheGalantir facts? What facts are you basing that off? The facts are he coldly killed his family for money to do drugs and has shown not an once remorse. He can't even bring himself to fake empathy for his family. If he truly was sad and felt that he "lost everything" than he would try to make amends to the only family he has left, his sister. Hell he even made sure to smoke and get high before calling any aid because he wanted to make sure they died and the only thing this man cares about is drugs. If he truly believed he has nothing to loose he wouldn't keep up this act that he's innocent. Genuinely just the actions of someone who lacks empathy and isn't able to think about anyone but himself and this half assed excuse is just an insult to the intelligence of everyone here
That 911 phone call reminds me of the Trevor Noah joke when people call the police in South Africa... no sense of emergency at all. Lol
He didn't even flinch when they told him he was found guilty! Yeah, he totally did it!! Omg!!
Mike, there's a perfect word you can use to get the various accents right for Afrikaners, Aussies & Kiwis: "aircraft". In South Africa it's like "EE-croff". AUS: "Eh-cruft" NZ: "ICK-reft" 😃👍
as a souf effrican i appreove. lol
2:50 he sounds like Hugh Grant flirting in a romantic comedy on the 911 call. "Oh botha, it appears someone has murdered my entire family. Do be a dear and send the meat wagon. Pip pip cheerio." Like damn bro, you sound super calm about all this.
@John D And you sound like your father.
Hugh Grant the famous South African actor? 😂
@@philwilson4167 Lmao, I JUST NOW rewatched this video and got what you were referencing. Oh lawdy, my bad.
Thank you for covering a case from my home country Mike and good job on the accent broer
He nodded his head each time that judge passed down his judgment. Certainly guilty ! What a sad sad story !
Or completely resigned to his fate. I’m sure they were aware of the potential sentence once the guilty verdict was handed down. It looks like he is just affirming what he knew was coming.
I started supporting you on Patreon because I get such a kick out of your incredible wit. The only tier available was $2 but I would much rather give 'tree' :)
Thank you!
I think he needs a theme song Sesame Street style about “tree, is my favourite number...”
I take the content of this channel very seriously of course but a little of Mike’s wit helps the medicine go down 🤗
This channel's level should definitely be $🌲, not $2!
If I could afford it I'd give tirty-tree!
😂😂😂😂
Did we just get a early presents?
Best of luck to you in the new year!
You too! But I'll see you before then ;)
Henri has his social worker wrapped around his little finger. He had her sized up in an instant. I bet she feels that they connected on a meaningful level.
.........Yeah......His attention is just what she needed. The 'Mardi Gras' earrings say it all.
Another horrific murder in South Africa is "The griekwastad murders"
They are making a movie of this true horror ... would be awesome if you could do a episode on this
Do a video on Peggy Lynn Johnson. The case was solved last month after she was unidentified since 1999.
Lol that "lekker broer " impression killed me. You're officially a fellow South African. 🤣🤣😂
I have been avoiding watching this video as it is too close to home- I am South African. It is horrific.
A good summary of the case, thanks.
Love your channel.