Still grateful they added Vayne into story mode, even if his encounter was kind of trivial lol. Just happy to hear his VA again and his conversation with Noctis is an interesting one, to say the least.
It is seriously weird to hear Vayne talk about "submitting to the gods", considering that pretty much most of FFXII's plot was consequence of him trying to free humanity from just that.
It's kind of twofold: on the one hand, he has been forced into this position and he KNOWS it. Hence why he's so resigned to fighting at first. Second: he's not on his own world. He has practically no attachment to this world or the conflict, so he is uninterested in really contributing to it. He's stayed consistent, it's just that he has almost no stake in what's going on.
I'm really glad they could get Elijah Alexander to reprise his role. He just knows how to make Vayne sound regal and imposing without sounding stereotypically evil
Agreed. I loved the way Elijah Alexander made the way Vayne sound ever since FFXII was out, and now that he's in Dissidia NT reprising his role, I'm immensely happy about that! Thanks Square, and Thank you Elijah lmao
Vayne probably understands that Noctis instead of changing his destiny given to him by the gods, is accepting of it because everyone he knows is depending on him. Its too bad that destiny will lead him to his death.
Wow, i know every hero(-ine) has him/her own reasons, intentions, motivations and relevance as a person and to the game's plot, but being and fighting together with the Hero/Warrior of Light must be some really impactating experience and an honor for one to have, as he was the first fantasy of all of them...
Because at the end of the day these supposed protagonists and villains are just "teaming up" for their freedom. They mostly gave up their personal grudges and look at the bigger picture at this point. Vayne is on a neutral stance despite being Spiritus's warrior and only picks fights at his own pleasure. He simply has no schemes in this game... but I do know he appeared on Opera Omnia's Season 2. We'll wait and see what he's up to there.
Xierra Marron You will be most satisfied with his role. *Spoiler Alert* He has significance to the plot and will make the plot more.. Interesting. Please be excited!
You can hear the thick sarcasm in his voice... He feigns enjoyment but beyond his noble pride his heart delivers another pace. One shortsighted of his hopes and wonders.
Love that they finally decided to add another villain, and I also love the conversations from the villains from Final Fantasy 12, they're always interesting
The other Season Pass characters, I bet, would be inserted into the plot as part of Squall+Lightning Encounters since they were never shown in the original plot to have encountered any villain on their way to their mission.
Vayne was one of the most unique villains, one of those villains with a goof cause, but the means which he goes about it is unethical. Also the fact he is of the monk or fighter class as a main antagonist on top of his role as a diplomatic leader is nice.
I'd have been much more interested in the story mode if we were able to play from the perspective of the likes of Vayne and Golbez, not just the 'heroes' of the Final Fantasy games.
Vayne would be interesting seeing as he is by many rights a heroic character too, but the type who believes ends justify the means. That's really the major reason he had an antagonistic role in 12 really, considering he was after the exact same thing as your group by the end.
Never a huge fan of FF12 or Vayne but I bought the DLC and he's not bad on first impression. I sense there's going to be a lot of frustration with players/teammates that don't recognize how dangerous his buffs are. On a side note, this world can have but one Emperor... and he is Emperor Mateus (you can have some cool banter between those two characters).
Gru They obviously didn't put much heart into this content. This is soley for monetization. Sometimes they care and sometimes they don't. They really didn't care here.
Sooo what gambit did Vayne pull? (Referring to one of the title cutscenes). The Vayne I know would be finding a way to get home and likely destroy the gods. Idk wtf he’s trying to achieve in this scene. I’m just gonna wait for Locke 😒
Awww. That's so cute. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😊😊😊😊😊💖💖💖💖💖. Seing a villain who respects others is just great. It may not impact the story, but it's nice to have a reflection of what we are fitting for. I also like the villan as he really smart and his playstle is unique. Thank you Square Inix to bring this moment for us. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😉😉😉😉😉
I hope that, when other characters are released, they include Vayne more. That's always a possibility. He's only the first DLC character. We don't know what's going to happen as the others are released.
Consider that this game probably take place after the end of each warrior game. I think this Vayne is the one after the end (or maybe resurrection if he's dead, I don't know) and sort of accepting god rule or at least question about his previous ambition. Did Vaan have any relation or interaction with Vayne in 12?
Trueblade Seeker Not particularly since Vaan is reduced to a background character he never spoke with him directly and I guess maybe they would be saving his interaction with a protagonist from XII for Larsa or Ashe
So we have Vayne. Who else will appear? Many want Caius (13) and Ardyn (15), which makes enough sense, FF1 creator wants Minwu (2), so that’s cool. Probably will get Yuna (10), Laguna (8), Tifa (7), Prishe (11), and Gilgamesh (5) at some point. I don’t know who I’d want, though. Perhaps Machina (Type-0), Eiko (9), Locke (6), and Seymour (10).
Ok. Now i see why they left the story map all wipy wopy. It just looked weird and didnt make any sense. But now i see why. Was also curious how added stories was going to work. So this answers 2 questions with one stone. And as for my personal opinion on what just went down. Eh..... Weak and poorly done. But..... I guess this is have to be expected with a huge roster. But still stinks. Still sucks.
Ya, I agree. They should've put plotholes for the new character to fill. And from that plotholes, one can make a huge story from it so that the new characters get their own role. This seems kinda... Forced... ._.
I do agree. The main issue is that it wasn't long enough. But actually, the Shinryu theme is carried over from the previous two games. So technically, this game wrapped up the other two. Just not in a satisfying way.
Trueblade Seeker I'm having the same issue. I see people that are on EU, JP, and Canada servers already have Vayne. I'm in the US and it's not showing up :(
Jonathan Irizarry sadly while the arcade is doing fenomenal the console is uhm well in danger I don't think they'll go till the 50 mark they wanted. after these 6 I see a veterans pass and them wrapping it up at 40. (6 for season 1 6 for season 2 plus the initial 28) and that's being generous.
Daryl We do know actually. SE said all Veterans will eventually return. But there are so many more Final Fantasy characters to choose from that all but one are on the back burner.
Moon Door. I am just waiting for tifa to buy this game. Though even if she mades it here, the game itself hasnt convinced me at all. Also, the game ia dying already, so this is making mE worrying for tifa's arrival. Until 2019? The game has not enough potential to survive that long.
They really butchered the writing for Vayne, you can tell that Elijah is really struggling to bring the character to life in spite of the generic dialogue and less-involving voice direction in comparison to the original FFXII. They made him sound like a boring, monotone anime villain banging on about why they fight rather than a tactical genius with an uncompromising force of will.
Warrior of Light: "Greetings.'
Cecil: "Greetings!"
Noctis: "So...what's up?"
I dunno, I found that kind of funny.
Yeah and the contrast of ages from past to modern!!😄
1987: "Greetings!"
1991: "Greetings!"
2016: "So... What's up?"
Evolution of Final Fantasy
My poor boy Noctis looking like he wandered into a cosplay conviction
"Hello, there. Let's fight."
*2 minutes later*
"We win. Goodbye."
It was a production of Team Ninja and Koei Tecno, yes the who make the Dead of Alive, this game can marry with Dead or Alive 6 and KISS!
Still grateful they added Vayne into story mode, even if his encounter was kind of trivial lol.
Just happy to hear his VA again and his conversation with Noctis is an interesting one, to say the least.
yea man, i thought they would just add him into the roster and be done with it lol
It is seriously weird to hear Vayne talk about "submitting to the gods", considering that pretty much most of FFXII's plot was consequence of him trying to free humanity from just that.
I mean looking at his situation here he pretty much has no choice but to submit. Like he said they're pawns called by the respective god.
Still, thats not like him. But considering it's SE, any consitency would be asked too much.
He did cooperate with a rogue God from his world though, so isn't he still technically submitting
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I think he'd rather submit to somewhat benevolent gods than be a pawn under Shinryu, who makes the Occuria look nice and reasonable...
It's kind of twofold: on the one hand, he has been forced into this position and he KNOWS it. Hence why he's so resigned to fighting at first.
Second: he's not on his own world. He has practically no attachment to this world or the conflict, so he is uninterested in really contributing to it.
He's stayed consistent, it's just that he has almost no stake in what's going on.
"The tyranny of the gods is ended. We are their puppets no more! The freedom for which we have longed is at hand!" -Vayne Solidor
I'm really glad they could get Elijah Alexander to reprise his role. He just knows how to make Vayne sound regal and imposing without sounding stereotypically evil
Agreed. I loved the way Elijah Alexander made the way Vayne sound ever since FFXII was out, and now that he's in Dissidia NT reprising his role, I'm immensely happy about that! Thanks Square, and Thank you Elijah lmao
How do you know this is Elijah Alexander?
zingodoom is he out already
Totally agree!
zingodoom 12 years and he can still capture the feeling of Vayne. Great voice actor
I love Noctis' dynamic. He's such a neutral mediator.
Boring character
Cecil: That gravitas is why YOU'RE our leader.
Noct: DUDE, I'm standing RIGHT HERE.
Ironically in terms of leadership and status, Cecil is the only one there who's a King, Noct is a goth prince and Warrior of Light is a....Warrior 😂
I love Lord Vayne. So happy they put him in before some of the more popular characters... but I still want Gabranth from FFXII T^T
OMG I HAVE MISSED THIS SHAKSPEAREAN WORDPLAY AND MASTERPIECE!!!!
I don't know why, but for some reason Vayne's voice reminds me of Adryn's voice.
Vayne probably understands that Noctis instead of changing his destiny given to him by the gods, is accepting of it because everyone he knows is depending on him.
Its too bad that destiny will lead him to his death.
It's too bad the alternate ending where he defies the gods is relegated forever only to a light novel
Wow, i know every hero(-ine) has him/her own reasons, intentions, motivations and relevance as a person and to the game's plot, but being and fighting together with the Hero/Warrior of Light must be some really impactating experience and an honor for one to have, as he was the first fantasy of all of them...
I'm not a fan of Vayne, but, it's kinda sad to see one main villain's role reduced into a...random encounter? Lol.
Because at the end of the day these supposed protagonists and villains are just "teaming up" for their freedom. They mostly gave up their personal grudges and look at the bigger picture at this point. Vayne is on a neutral stance despite being Spiritus's warrior and only picks fights at his own pleasure. He simply has no schemes in this game... but I do know he appeared on Opera Omnia's Season 2. We'll wait and see what he's up to there.
Xierra Marron You will be most satisfied with his role. *Spoiler Alert* He has significance to the plot and will make the plot more.. Interesting. Please be excited!
What makes you say that?
Meizuken he is trolling...
"A hound begging at emperor table. Would you serve another master, hound?"
You can hear the thick sarcasm in his voice...
He feigns enjoyment but beyond his noble pride his heart delivers another pace.
One shortsighted of his hopes and wonders.
Love that they finally decided to add another villain, and I also love the conversations from the villains from Final Fantasy 12, they're always interesting
Poor noctis he looked all confused
I'd really love to see Doctor Cid in this game... He was an extremelly cool (and funny) villain in FFXII, and I loved his crazy dialogues.
A TRIAL FOR ASHELIA B'NARGIN DALMASCA!!
The other Season Pass characters, I bet, would be inserted into the plot as part of Squall+Lightning Encounters since they were never shown in the original plot to have encountered any villain on their way to their mission.
ROCKheir YES. And hopefully a season pass that has something to do with Golbez and Cloud of Darkness too.
Maybe squall and lightning didnt have a battle yet and a DLC will tell that... maybe thats a FFVIII/FXIII characters confirmed as a DLC maybe
ROCKheir Agreed. We haven't see any stories details about them. Hopefully the next dlc focus about them. 😉Looking forward.
I was thinking the same thing you'd think those two would have a interaction atleast
Well it turns out Lighting and Squall end up meeting Lighting Returns era Snow on their path, so yes.
Vayne was one of the most unique villains, one of those villains with a goof cause, but the means which he goes about it is unethical. Also the fact he is of the monk or fighter class as a main antagonist on top of his role as a diplomatic leader is nice.
I'd have been much more interested in the story mode if we were able to play from the perspective of the likes of Vayne and Golbez, not just the 'heroes' of the Final Fantasy games.
Vayne would be interesting seeing as he is by many rights a heroic character too, but the type who believes ends justify the means. That's really the major reason he had an antagonistic role in 12 really, considering he was after the exact same thing as your group by the end.
I agree
Now all we need is Dr. Cid and my life will be complete lol
Maybe Vayne will have a better understanding of Ashe now that he has talked to Noctis.
So cool of them to get Eliah Alexander back to voice... like, a few lines for Vayne before he does nothing else.
What a waste of a fantastic villain.
Never a huge fan of FF12 or Vayne but I bought the DLC and he's not bad on first impression. I sense there's going to be a lot of frustration with players/teammates that don't recognize how dangerous his buffs are. On a side note, this world can have but one Emperor... and he is Emperor Mateus (you can have some cool banter between those two characters).
The cutscene is so short and really didn't have anything significant to the plot. I hope this doesn't become the trend
A2 Sqaure is a wild card, sometimes they care sometimes they don't. Mostly the latter
Robin ! Yea they dont care, yet continue to produce games for their loving fans.
Gru They obviously didn't put much heart into this content. This is soley for monetization. Sometimes they care and sometimes they don't. They really didn't care here.
Homer Chu yea I agree. That's why they continue to spend a fortune making games for ungrateful players. They obviously give no fucks.
We are customers afterall. We pay for the products don't we?
I can't believe Yuri's still voicing Cecil after all these years. That's some hardcore dedication in voice acting.
yes, money and contracts will do that.
Sooo what gambit did Vayne pull? (Referring to one of the title cutscenes). The Vayne I know would be finding a way to get home and likely destroy the gods. Idk wtf he’s trying to achieve in this scene.
I’m just gonna wait for Locke 😒
Awww. That's so cute. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😊😊😊😊😊💖💖💖💖💖.
Seing a villain who respects others is just great. It may not impact the story, but it's nice to have a reflection of what we are fitting for.
I also like the villan as he really smart and his playstle is unique. Thank you Square Inix to bring this moment for us. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😉😉😉😉😉
*Enix*
I couldn't help but think of Vayne Solidor during the final battle of Lightning Returns, so having her manikin in his party is utterly hysterical.
I hope that, when other characters are released, they include Vayne more. That's always a possibility. He's only the first DLC character. We don't know what's going to happen as the others are released.
Warrior of Light! You gorgeous! 💙
You know Lightning and Squall disappear and don't do anything. Did they really have to give this to Warrior and friends?
Noct is so done with this shit 😂
Noctis! You are gonna make me cry :(
The sad thing is, noctis isn't progressing by choice.
Vayne, Cid, Venat. Most effective team in ff history.
When i saw Vaynes gameplay, i thought he was Broly from dbz lol
Noctis’s innocense vs Vayne’s
It's weird that the cutscenes set the fight up to be a Core Battle, yet it's just a basic match instead.
I wonder if Vayne is starting to rethink his desicions based on what Noctis told him but why couldn't we get an encounter between Vayne and Vaan
Consider that this game probably take place after the end of each warrior game. I think this Vayne is the one after the end (or maybe resurrection if he's dead, I don't know) and sort of accepting god rule or at least question about his previous ambition.
Did Vaan have any relation or interaction with Vayne in 12?
Trueblade Seeker Not particularly since Vaan is reduced to a background character he never spoke with him directly and I guess maybe they would be saving his interaction with a protagonist from XII for Larsa or Ashe
@@truebladeseeker no. He interacts more with Ashe in the final battle.
Y’all Peep why it’s called “Vayne’s Gambit”?
vayne might talk like royallty, but Noctis has something Vayne never had. The heart of royalty.
Sparkledash1. about how they are talking( her bidding) and why lightning fight with the enemy?
Rather than a cutscene, it was more like random encounter...
I take it your main is Noctis?
So we have Vayne. Who else will appear? Many want Caius (13) and Ardyn (15), which makes enough sense, FF1 creator wants Minwu (2), so that’s cool. Probably will get Yuna (10), Laguna (8), Tifa (7), Prishe (11), and Gilgamesh (5) at some point.
I don’t know who I’d want, though. Perhaps Machina (Type-0), Eiko (9), Locke (6), and Seymour (10).
Gallant Blade I'd like to see one villain per hero(that doesn't have a counter part). That's why I wanna see Ardyn.
Vayne such classy boi
Ok. Now i see why they left the story map all wipy wopy. It just looked weird and didnt make any sense. But now i see why. Was also curious how added stories was going to work. So this answers 2 questions with one stone. And as for my personal opinion on what just went down. Eh..... Weak and poorly done. But..... I guess this is have to be expected with a huge roster. But still stinks. Still sucks.
Ya, I agree. They should've put plotholes for the new character to fill. And from that plotholes, one can make a huge story from it so that the new characters get their own role. This seems kinda... Forced... ._.
I do agree. The main issue is that it wasn't long enough. But actually, the Shinryu theme is carried over from the previous two games. So technically, this game wrapped up the other two. Just not in a satisfying way.
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Thanks!!
Noct!! ❤️
Vayne is locked for me even though I have the season pass
go to PSN page for Vayne character (individually) and you can download it for free
You mean the Playstation Store? I tried and nothing came up. Even tried going to the PS Store from Dissidia and nothing came up. Just a blank page
Maybe he's not here yet for global version? (Or wherever you are)
They are yet to announce it in twitter too.
Trueblade Seeker
I'm having the same issue. I see people that are on EU, JP, and Canada servers already have Vayne. I'm in the US and it's not showing up :(
??? just go to the psn store on the dissidia nt addon page. it will be there for free as long as you have the seasonpass
This game is starting to be like a comic book
That was Freaking Awsome i want wait to rebuy this game now
What is the music play when they're talking
Good that snow is in the story line 5 but bad he is villan
ahh i hope after all dlc character come out, they can redo the cutscene of all warrior of light vs warrior of chaos.
Not really a villain, not really a hero either.
I hope they keep adding way more to the story.
I cant wait to see Steyn teasing others
cant wait for all the characters. still hoping for zenos
Zenos who?
Arturo Gutierrez Zenos Yae Galvus is the most recent villain from Final Fantasy XIV.
Funny...two knights are with a prince
Yeah but where are my boys ace and ramza tho
Hmm... Interesting...
Where’s Zack
I'm still wondering, where is Tifa? I heard she will come in 2019! Like really?!?!
Well we’ll see. They said they want 50 characters at least and plan to bring all the Dissidia veterans back but it will take a while.
Jonathan Irizarry sadly while the arcade is doing fenomenal the console is uhm well in danger I don't think they'll go till the 50 mark they wanted. after these 6 I see a veterans pass and them wrapping it up at 40. (6 for season 1 6 for season 2 plus the initial 28) and that's being generous.
Daryl We do know actually. SE said all Veterans will eventually return. But there are so many more Final Fantasy characters to choose from that all but one are on the back burner.
With how many sales this game got I really doubt they will keep their promise of 50 characters
Moon Door. I am just waiting for tifa to buy this game. Though even if she mades it here, the game itself hasnt convinced me at all. Also, the game ia dying already, so this is making mE worrying for tifa's arrival. Until 2019? The game has not enough potential to survive that long.
i bought the season pass but vayne's costume is not free. why is that?
His first extra costrume is but his 2nd isnt
Nice work t
Not bad, but were a rapid scene
This game really wasn't even supposed to release on global.... so why do you guy's complain about extra contents.... play opera omina...
Wait... is that Wrathion?
He's out?
They really butchered the writing for Vayne, you can tell that Elijah is really struggling to bring the character to life in spite of the generic dialogue and less-involving voice direction in comparison to the original FFXII. They made him sound like a boring, monotone anime villain banging on about why they fight rather than a tactical genius with an uncompromising force of will.
Well that's was disappointing... Is this all the other characters are getting too?
Yall peep how much gil he has? Lol
afro knight None. No one has Gil here.
Caius would have been doper
What's wrong with English localisations of FF games? I mean, this one butchers Vayne characterisation beyond recognition...
1st
FIX THE STUPID SERVERS