AXS on a budget. Works on every derailleur and any speed cassette. I’m surprised this hasn’t blown up and become the best selling bike product. How does it perform? How’s the build quality? How’s the durability? I’ve only seen Seth use it.
Thanks! Yeah I’m trying to put a little more effort into the editing. But really I want to get back to more trail ride videos. I have a cool idea for Buttermilk that I think people will dig.
@@downtoridemtb hahah - I love doing my ride videos but I want to do more Bike and product review videos… those get way more views… I have 5 weeks of awesome ride content already backlogged - I do have another bike review video on tap as well but want to do more
Great video! But I have the lowest cost wireless shifter… it’s called single speed LOL. But seriously I think my legs need a break so I’m going to order the AdventX.
I have the Paddle remote that replaced the remote you have there. This one was good, but the paddle remote has better ergonomics. it fits me much better at least. They released a new version few days ago. It's march 2023 now. it has a detachable battery and if you have to you can use AXS and DI2 battery.
Yeah the new shifted look a lot better. I eventually got tired of the slow double shifts and the added complication. I know the battery upgrade addresses the speed issue though.
@@downtoridemtb Shorter battery life, but it shifts fast enough. But I have spare batteries with me anyway, just in case I forget to charge. But I need this system to not be in pain, and fatigue. but with mechanical shifter I guess clutch can be turned to minimum, but despite that it still fatigues, but completely off and chain slaps horribly. I will likely continue using this system. But for some reason the motor died on two shifters, one is at Archer now for repair.The one I use now has been repaired. But at least warranty and customer support is great. I am willing to go trough that to have fatigue free and pain free shifting.
I was going to get this until I saw the Wheeltop EDS OX system which doesn't need a cable, it's much more sophisticated and allows for micro adjustments as well for a slightly higher price.
I watched a video with the owner and he said technically anything is possible ... I guess the programming is open source and it would just be a matter of programming a remote/shifter combo to to "pull, wait, release" to let the seat post drop or return.
Nice! Make sure to get their battery upgrade that recently came out. The slow double shift actually did annoy me after riding more and more. That should help though.
I’ve done some research and contacted them… You can also get some 14250 batteries and use two of those and one of the stock 14500s. Same length so you don’t need the other battery door. Don’t use four 14250s though, it is too much voltage and will fry the electronics.
Thanks! One big one… the slow double shifts became annoying to the point that I went back to cable actuated. We have a lot of quick ups and downs here which means a lot of shifting. For other types of riding this would probably be less of an issue. If you wind up getting one, definitely spring for the battery upgrade.
Make sure you get the battery upgrade. I did eventually get annoyed by the slow double/triple shifts and took it off my bike. We have a lot of quick ups and downs around here which means lots of shifting.
how does it behave when on standby compare to axs? I'm currently using gx axs and I hate tuning that damn thing :( but the overall operation is fluid, just a slight vibration the motor wakes up instantly
You ha d to actually turn it on. Kinda makes sense to me though because otherwise transporting the bike would constantly be turning it on. If you’re already on AXS then stick with it. I have since seen video comparisons and AXS is faster shifting.
It’s an upgrade if you already have the regular GX drivetrain. Meaning it doesn’t come with a cassette or chain. Personally I’ve gone back to cable shifting. I just really like the more natural, non-electronic aspect of mountain biking.
Haha, yeah super budget for me! This is the one they sent me, currently on sale for for $389: archercomponents.com/products/d1x-trail-mab It will work with Box 4 and basically any other drivetrain.
@@downtoridemtb lol that’s not budget for meeeee hahah maybe you can tell them you have a friend that one to test it as well and they send you another one. Lol take care my friend thank you for the video
It's cool but I'm pretty sure you could've used something like a Deore RD, which costs less (at least in Europe), and that might save a buck or two considering you could micro-adjust each gear with the d1x
Yeah you definitely can mix brands with this and even mix speeds. For example an 11 speed derailleur on a 10 speed cassette. As long as the max tooth size is compatible, the D1X will take care of the rest.
@@downtoridemtb Yeah, I'm building a d1x concept myself with some spare electronics I have, I like the idea to fix derailleur that don't shift well. 2 of mines act like if the hanger were bent, so fine-tuning the cable-pull for each gear sounds like a perfect way to fix those derailleurs.
AXS on a budget. Works on every derailleur and any speed cassette. I’m surprised this hasn’t blown up and become the best selling bike product. How does it perform? How’s the build quality? How’s the durability? I’ve only seen Seth use it.
Everything about it is great except the slow double shifts. Although they now have a higher voltage battery set that is supposed to speed it up.
Awesome vid - love some of the editing touches you’ve added - I may have to explore the wireless flow someday too!
Thanks! Yeah I’m trying to put a little more effort into the editing. But really I want to get back to more trail ride videos. I have a cool idea for Buttermilk that I think people will dig.
@@downtoridemtb hahah - I love doing my ride videos but I want to do more
Bike and product review videos… those get way more views… I have 5 weeks of awesome ride content already backlogged - I do have another bike review video on tap as well but want to do more
Great video! But I have the lowest cost wireless shifter… it’s called single speed LOL. But seriously I think my legs need a break so I’m going to order the AdventX.
Ha yeah that is the ULTIMATE wireless drivetrain! I can’t imagine having only one gear. I think you’ll like the Advent X
I have the Paddle remote that replaced the remote you have there. This one was good, but the paddle remote has better ergonomics. it fits me much better at least.
They released a new version few days ago. It's march 2023 now.
it has a detachable battery and if you have to you can use AXS and DI2 battery.
Yeah the new shifted look a lot better. I eventually got tired of the slow double shifts and the added complication. I know the battery upgrade addresses the speed issue though.
@@downtoridemtb Shorter battery life, but it shifts fast enough. But I have spare batteries with me anyway, just in case I forget to charge. But I need this system to not be in pain, and fatigue.
but with mechanical shifter I guess clutch can be turned to minimum, but despite that it still fatigues, but completely off and chain slaps horribly. I will likely continue using this system. But for some reason the motor died on two shifters, one is at Archer now for repair.The one I use now has been repaired. But at least warranty and customer support is great. I am willing to go trough that to have fatigue free and pain free shifting.
Good job 👏 I'll have to look into that D1X. I like...
Thanks. Yeah it’s definitely a nice thing to have. Necessary, not really. But neither are a lot of the bike parts we all buy.
I was going to get this until I saw the Wheeltop EDS OX system which doesn't need a cable, it's much more sophisticated and allows for micro adjustments as well for a slightly higher price.
I remember seeing that on Seth’s channel. It seems like a better system overall but I don’t think you can even buy it in the US.
Nice video! Very well explained!!! Thanks!
Thanks!
Awesome video 👍
Thanks!!!
Very cool, will this work with a sram NX derailleur and cassette and do they have a wireless set up for dropper posts?
It will work with NX and really any other drivetrain too. Nothing for a dropper though. Would be so cool if they did!
I watched a video with the owner and he said technically anything is possible ... I guess the programming is open source and it would just be a matter of programming a remote/shifter combo to to "pull, wait, release" to let the seat post drop or return.
Ill be getting this and pairings it with a 1x13 Sride
Nice! Make sure to get their battery upgrade that recently came out. The slow double shift actually did annoy me after riding more and more. That should help though.
@@downtoridemtb the beta round is sold out
Ill have to wait for a beta round two or official release.
I’ve done some research and contacted them… You can also get some 14250 batteries and use two of those and one of the stock 14500s. Same length so you don’t need the other battery door. Don’t use four 14250s though, it is too much voltage and will fry the electronics.
… oh but do so at your own risk. They said that would work but I have not tried it yet.
Loved the review. Any long term thoughts yet?
Thanks! One big one… the slow double shifts became annoying to the point that I went back to cable actuated. We have a lot of quick ups and downs here which means a lot of shifting. For other types of riding this would probably be less of an issue. If you wind up getting one, definitely spring for the battery upgrade.
Thanks so much for the info!
Glad to help!
Excellent video! After seeing this its time to buy.........
Make sure you get the battery upgrade. I did eventually get annoyed by the slow double/triple shifts and took it off my bike. We have a lot of quick ups and downs around here which means lots of shifting.
how does it behave when on standby compare to axs? I'm currently using gx axs and I hate tuning that damn thing :( but the overall operation is fluid, just a slight vibration the motor wakes up instantly
You ha d to actually turn it on. Kinda makes sense to me though because otherwise transporting the bike would constantly be turning it on. If you’re already on AXS then stick with it. I have since seen video comparisons and AXS is faster shifting.
@@downtoridemtb but the red batteries make it shift 50% faster. The new shifter will shift fast too. they released it few days ago.
Did you notice any noises coming from your bottom bracket by any chance?
I did recently deal with a creak that I traced to a slightly loose bottom bracket. Not the stock bottom bracket though.
@@downtoridemtb So just to clean the bottom bracket?
@@omeriluz9800 for me I just had to buy the right tool and use a torque wrench to tighten it to spec.
There's the GX AXS upgrade kit at 400€ on the web, does this still worth it?
It’s an upgrade if you already have the regular GX drivetrain. Meaning it doesn’t come with a cassette or chain. Personally I’ve gone back to cable shifting. I just really like the more natural, non-electronic aspect of mountain biking.
So you said budget but how much is budget since you got it for free!! Lol 😂 is there a link for it and will work with box 4 group set
Haha, yeah super budget for me! This is the one they sent me, currently on sale for for $389:
archercomponents.com/products/d1x-trail-mab
It will work with Box 4 and basically any other drivetrain.
@@downtoridemtb lol that’s not budget for meeeee hahah maybe you can tell them you have a friend that one to test it as well and they send you another one. Lol take care my friend thank you for the video
Yeah I hear you. I suppose it’s the most budget way to get into a premium item but yeah it’s not cheap.
Nice 🤘👍
Thanks 👊
It's cool but I'm pretty sure you could've used something like a Deore RD, which costs less (at least in Europe), and that might save a buck or two considering you could micro-adjust each gear with the d1x
Yeah you definitely can mix brands with this and even mix speeds. For example an 11 speed derailleur on a 10 speed cassette. As long as the max tooth size is compatible, the D1X will take care of the rest.
@@downtoridemtb Yeah, I'm building a d1x concept myself with some spare electronics I have, I like the idea to fix derailleur that don't shift well. 2 of mines act like if the hanger were bent, so fine-tuning the cable-pull for each gear sounds like a perfect way to fix those derailleurs.
That cool, I love the recycling of parts and keeping them out of the trash!
Sorry bro for watch late 😔😔😔😔
Thanks for watching!
AXS shifts fast. Archer shifts slow.
You are certainly not wrong, although they do have more powerful batteries which is supposed to speed it up.
Its cheaper but.... $449 dollars... erm yeah I'm okay. If it was more like 150 i'd be in, but I'm not sure if it's worth it
Yeah there are definitely better ways to spend that money. Thanks for watching.