Yes, You’ll Be Switching to 1x10 - microSHIFT Advent X
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- Опубликовано: 14 янв 2021
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Another great video! FYI the complete set is available from Universal Cycles in Portland OR, including the better aluminum cassette. Total cost with a KMC X10 chain was $179, incredible deal! And I have no affiliation with this shop, I live in NY. Keep these great videos coming, and sending prayers for you and your Mom.
Thanks for the heads up John! Thanks even more for praying for my mom. She had the best day ever since diagnosis yesterday! Prayer changes things!! 😃👍
Hey quick question. I’m having a difficult time finding tires for my Vassago. What are using for 29 x 2.8/3.0’s ?
@@johnsalvaggio the Maxxis Chronicle, DHF and DHR2 are still available in limited quantities in 29x3.0, but can be hard to find in stock at times. 29x2.8 Maxxis Rekons are available too, but I have never seen any local bike shop stock them. I mostly run 2.6 tires now because I can find them from a variety of manufacturers and continue to test various models.
I would love to try the Chronicles but can’t find them anywhere. I run Duroc 50’s so I think 2.6 are too narrow. I placed an order for Coronado tan wall 2.8’s, hopefully they roll nice.
Yes I got mine from them too (I am in Malaysia) superfast delivery. I am loving the AdventX too much...might get another one soon
Acolyte work with the 11-48T Advent X. Save some coin, pull ratios are the same. Acolyte weight is 392g
I've had an AdventX for over 2 months 😊 I love it compared to my original 14-28t cassette. With a 36t chainring, it will climb all hills, but you'll be coasting down steep hills. I wish they offered a 11-56t/500% range cassette with 5t between rings instead of 4t, 11-48t/400% range. Then, I'd use a 44t chainring and have all of the climbing gears and some downhill gears too.
Good choice! I’ve been loving mine. The cost, weight and performance make it a no brainer to me. Although I’ve never ridden the premium stuff to compare it to.
Great review! I just picked out this exact same set up for my “new to me” Giant Anthem X 29er.
nice i have 3 bikes that i put the advent 9 group set on all of them, they were all 3x and i have updated them to the 9speed 1x and have had no issues at all. one set was bashed by a rock and bent, I hand bent it back and used the shifter adjustment to get home, bent it back w/ needle nose plyers and it works flawlessly to this day.
Yep, same experience here with the Advent X 1x10. Even bent the derailleur hanger on my frame out of alignment and the derailleur is scratched, but still shifting GREAT!
Thanks for the comment!
-Nick 😃👍
It's almost 2023 and I'll be going 1x with the Advent X 👍
You’ll be glad you did!
Hey nice review.
Greeting from Indonesia, I just bought a marin larkspur 1 for my wife and it's come with advent x combine with 11-51T which I didn't really notice when decide to buy this bike.
Have tried the bike and I really like it!
I have two other bikes that using SLX 11sp (11-46) and Zee 10sp (11-36), the advent x feel more crisp and easier to shift.
I think It has the right amount of clutch strength.
Great video...everyone who's run SRAM SX has told me, 'toss the garbage Rear Mech and put on a GX...and the shifting issues are eliminated.' Run them in mud, snow, rain and the issues are gone.
Not just SX, but NX too. Also either of those cassettes are just a temporary solution until a few rides later. I really wish bike manufacturers wouldn’t cheap out and put those cassettes on 1500-2500 dollar bikes. It makes new riders discouraged right after they started enjoying riding their new bikes. Microshift Advent X would be way more encouraging for them, but alas, it isn’t packaged together with RS forks, truvativ bars and stems, and sram brakes. When a big bike company buys 100s of thousands of components at a time, they get a really good deal on buying them all from SRAM/RockShox, which is why you see those brands so often across a bike company’s lineup.
I agree with your perspective that microShift is a great option. I have a 1x11 Shimano shifter and derailer that I mixed with a SunRace 11-46 cassette and KMC 11SL chain. I also have the oval Wolfe Tooth 32 Oval ring. I’ve never had issues and rarely need to adjust. I use the high end Jagwire cable too.
I already went 1x10 on the "road" bike a couple years ago. 38t front, 11t-32t XT cassette, 105 shifters through a tanpan to a Zee RD, (essentially a short cage SLX.) I love it, and only lost three gears on the top that I don't really use anyway.
Funny you post this video. I just finally decided on a box three prime 9 over the advent x, figured I get 2 more teeth and one less gear. Nice comparison.
Great side by side comparison.
Between the upgrade of the Advent X groupset and Selle Atómica X saddle, the bike's pretty much dialed. Having a 28 by 48t bailout gear should save me Some bike pushing(?) and i don't miss the eleventh gear i had with my (discontinued) Box 1 11 spd group-set. No more clunky shifting and only a 46t out back; Box needs to stick to BMX if the truth be told... The shifting is awesome and quick. Chose the all-steel cluster for reasons of durability (90%of my bike is steel anyhow). Borrowing my friend's '86 Bridgestone MB-1 with the Brooks B20 saddle and Advent X group-set was such a horrible decision... ;)
You’re in good company Bart. :)
So far I love the Advent X. I swapped the SLX 11spd drivetrain on my Syncr. SLX is a great drivetrain and it took a hell of a beating. However, i thought that 46T was not enough for a rescue gear when i really needed it. So i went with the 11-48 Alloy cassette and it was just the extra power i needed with my 30t oval chainring. Aesthetically i think the old SLX 11spd cassette and derailleur is ugly. So not only did i save good weight and deliver more power, it looks better as well. I just hope it will last me in the long run. Like i said i mashed and bashed that SLX drivetrain and it was still chugging. Advent X still has its work cut out for it.
Well, after 6 months, I’m happy with Advent X. Would buy it again in a heartbeat. I’m sure you’ll like it as well. Thanks for the comment!
-Nick 😃👍
Thank you for this great video. I received the Advent X shifter yesterday. Waiting for the derailleur to arrive. I will have to order the cassette and chain next. I watched another RUclips video about an 11-speed chain hack - and a video about running an 11-50t cassette. They caused me to pause on ordering the Advent X cassette. But now I think I should just order the microSHIFT Advent X cassette.
By the way, I ordered the parts from Amazon. Thanks again.
Glad to help Tony!
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-Nick 😃👍
Get the derailleur yet?
I have Archer D1XTrail, so I can have stiffer clutch, cus I am not doing the work. but I I agree I would adjust clutch to be at that sweet spot where its working but light shift.
I've not tried Microshift. I have Box One X-Wide now, but first one the bushings wore out after few tens of km but Box sendt me a new RD.
A great groupset for a MTB and a gravel bike...
Wish the Centos brifters were available for the advent and advent x .....
I have a Garbaruk 11speed 11-50T on order. I will see how it performs.
I know some people snap teeth on Sram Eagle cassettes, even the gold ones.
Currently I am using SunRace MX80 11-50T, but I , warped cogs, bent teeth on smallest cogs. the issues got worse and after hundres of KM I got chewed up the ramps, teeth, got sharp edges, it all caused the chain to hesitate. I had to use a flat headed screw driver to bend the cogs and teeth. on the cogs at the spiders.
I was also rotating chains to reduce wear.
and used two adjustable wrenches to bend back the teeth on the smallest cogs.
I sold my 11-46T cassettes. but will I will see how the Garbaruk will perform. I hope it gets sent out soon.
My Box One X-Wide can only go to 50T, so can't get the Shimano 51T.
I just heard from my LBS that QBP now has inventory of all of the Advent X 10 speed parts except for the alloy cassettes. which may be as early as tomorrow.
I just got my 10 speed alloy cassette from QBP. Looking forward to building the bike soon.
Great video. Microshift certainly provide some great options. I kinda wish I'd plumped for 10 or 9 speed as my 11 speed often needs multiple shifts and it was a bit fussy on setup. I spent on a very nice light Garbaruk 10-46 cassette and Shimano SLX mechs.
I'm sure it'll never happen, but I reckon that a 9 or 10 speed cassette for the XD hub, with a 9 or a 10 sprocket, would *actually* be the perfect solution.
I agree. Will be nice to have more wide range, 9 and 10 speed, high end options. As more of us purchase the Advent X this year, I’m sure there will be other options soon.
Thanks for the comment!
-Nick 😃👍
I have Advent X on my new 29+ build. And I love it. More than the Eagle GX on my trail bike. The one thing I think you forgot to mention in the video is that you don't need a new wheel or hub. Sram you of course need to have XD. And Shimano 12spd requires their new Microspline. Advent X is compatible with good 'ol Shimano HG.
So true! Thanks for the comment Doug!
-Nick 😃👍
The problem with Sram is the names that American companies adopt, they are very strange!
Ex. X5 the consumer thinks there are 5 speeds, but the opposite is for 9S, and the X9 is for 10S, it's a mess.
In addition to the Binary Codes that Sram adopts XX and more X, and the 1 seems to order , ex I want a drive train Double Cheeseburger X XX1 and More XXXXXX11111.
Sram Hit the SX, NX and GX Gama 12s, later it returns to be that company with a bizarre creativity of names adopting Various X.
100%. The most bizarre naming system out there.
How many theets has the fronf chainring?
I have the older 1x9 advent and it was lightyears better than my old 3x7 shimano tourney. It is buttery smooth with satisfying clicks. I want to try the 10.
I prefer the Advent X over the Shimano XT 11 speed stuff and that is a big statement. Long term review is coming soon.
i have the advent 9 also, i love them. 2 with the trigger and 1 set has the trail type. they are smooth and shift flawlessly.
I just put mine on a 2021 schwinn axum took it out today love it so far.
in the shift test you showed it seems like the shifts are a little slower then the shimano stuf, is this also the case when shifting on the bike? Im riding a shimano m8000 xt setup that is now almost 4 years old with a 11-46 casset and if the clutch is ajusted properly it shifts as light as you want (you can find you own balance). where i live the microshift is at least as expensive as a slx setup with xt shifter, so not shore if im gonna try it out.
I just switched from the m8000 11spd XT. I like this more. The shifts feel a little less mushy, more like a high end sram shifter to me, and the derailleur seems to be shifting very quickly up the cassette, into a lower gear. When I set up my drivetrains for the first time with new cables (always using compressionless housing), I ensure the shifts up the cassette are faster than down the cassette since a) the cable will stretch very quickly as it settles in, and b) the shifts down the cassette, into a harder gear, are when I just want to go faster, not stay pedaling up a steep climb that snuck up on me, so fast shifting into a smaller cog is a nice to have instead of a need to have.
Thanks for the comment,
Nick
If only they made the Centos drop bar brifters for this groupset...
Looks like it's worth it to try the AdventX. I'm not a fan of unnecessary chain binding with the 12 speed options so having a 10 speed with that tooth range is better design mechanically. I've owned a few hard tail mountain bikes with high kilometers which I have years of long term time with each of them. I had Deore LX back in the late 1990s and Deore in the 2000s. Switched to SRAM X7 and SRAM X9 in 2012. The SRAM stuff never shifted as crisp and I replaced many parts. It had a SRAM crank and GXP bottom bracket and I broke the bolt that hold the crank arm to the bottom bracket on a few rides by trail riding hard. I had to keep spares bolts on me to not get stranded! When they broke you could see they were some kind of alloy light weight crap that needed to be designed a little better to be stronger. My Shimano bikes seemed way more durable although I still replaced parts but only when I did something like land the derailleur on a log and bend it badly. I wonder how microSHIFT will hold up after some years.
I have about 600mi on the Advent X so far and things are going great still.
@@RideAlongside Thanks for the reply. I do about 500 miles a season so that is great. I think I'll try AdventX for a season. The price is decent for that system.
You really get a lot for your money with the Advent X. I hope it causes Shimano to up their game with the lower cost groupsets. Thanks for the comments!
-Nick 😃👍
you sound like me with that breathing my friend - hope your health is okay stop the smoking if you do ;) GL
Will this 10-speed RD & cassette system compatible with a 2x chainring & FD system? Thanks in advance!
I would give it a try, but I think it was engineered for 1x chainring setups.
I do think you're wrong. I just put Advent 1x9 on my new build.
The drop bar brifters by microshift could be slightly better...
Otherwise microshift 9 and 10 speed advent and advent x impress...
I don't give a sh*t about the weight...
If people are that worried about weight they should be running top of the range stuff anyway....
I was thinking of the same thing the entire week: Advent X 11-48T cassette, M5100 RD and Zee shifter -- These are the only cheap and available stuff due to the parts shortage. It's hard to find the Microshift RD and Shifter for a good price these days. How does the cassette hold up in the long run? Thanks!!
19:00 to 19:23 Totally agree with you!
The cassette is holding up GREAT!
Thanks for the comment!
-Nick 😃👍
@@RideAlongside
Thanks for the feedback on the cassette, Nick! I was worried that it might not last like the other wide range cassettes reviewed on RUclips. Both you and Hardtail Party confirmed that it is indeed a good value for money cassette!
For sure. Keep in mind that mine is the very heavy version that is all steel. It’s my “training” cassette. I plan to get the light weight version with some aluminum cogs for events like racing, all day rides, and Bikepacking. Glad to help!
Hi so has the new Shimano 11-51 10 speed or the new Shimano 11-51 11 speed cassette turned up in the USA yet we have one of the new derailleurs which is in stock at my work place in New Zealand. But the cassettes are still to come. I have on my Ritchey Ultra Shimano XT 2×12 and love it, but thinking to take my GRX Di2 levers off my Gravel Bike (can not ride at this point in time because of an injury) and put them onto my Salsa Woodchipper drop handlebars that are on my Jones LWB Spaceframe bike and upgrade the XT 2×11 derailleurs to XT 2×11 Di2 derailleurs for a bit of fun? Keep up your great videos
Yes, the new Deore 11-51 is here. I highly considered it and put it on my spreadsheet that I showed in the later half of the video.
@@RideAlongside Hi sorry I did see you talking about the Deore 12 speed, but not the new 11 and 10 speed 11-50 and 51 cassette that are also available.
Welcome to the dark side. I love this drive train and have no complaints whatsoever
YEAH! 😃👍
I've been looking at Eagle NX and others. Still haven't decided. I can get Advent X with the partial aluminum cassette , a KMC X10 chain for $192+free shipping. Eagle NX is $255+shipping Any thoughts? Need something that'll take an old school hyperglide freehub. Honestly leaning towards giving the Microshift a try!
shifter SL-M9605-R - $31
derailleur RD-M6205AM - $71
alum spider cassette CS-G104 11-48T $60
X10 chain + quick link. $30
Update - It is up and running on Advent X-- so far so good!
Same here! Its great!!
I have 3 bikes - 1x10, 1x11, 1x12
For science, would you try to match the Deore 12 speed Derailleur with the AdventX shifter and cassette and see if they work?
No. The chain wouldn’t go through the derailleur
@@RideAlongside what about a 12 spd chain and the set up?
You had me on board until I got to the ~15-minute mark and I saw the "biopace" front chainring.
😂
Other models of oval aren’t so great, but the WolfTooth oval has actually made pedal strokes feel smoother.
@@RideAlongside If it keeps you pedaling onward, go for it! I'm an old bastard riding 2x8 or 2x9 on most of my bikes and still loving this combination after many years.... but nice comparison nonetheless.
how would this be on gravel bike on road
Probably wider range than is needed for most road riding. If many steep climbs or long days in the saddle are expected, like for touring, it may be a good option.
Como faço para comprar,moro no Brasil.
Just got my cassette waiting on the derailleur and crank
You’re gonna like it!
You mentioned the heavy steel cassette but never showed it. On the spreadsheet you must have listed the alloy version. Roughly 420 grams. That non-premium cassette is probably the biggest mystery you can address for those of us considering the Advent-x drivertain
I did mention the steel cassette weighing 600+ grams. Maybe you missed me speaking about it, but no worries. To be honest, it’s so heavy it’s not worth noting it’s exact weight, nor did microSHIFT list its weight on their site. The 420g for the Alloy carrier/larger cogs version is definitely worth mentioning however. It’s a contender in the wide range cassette show down and a big reason for me to switch to this Advent X grouppo. I am currently “off season training” with the steel version and can’t wait to run the alloy carrier version come spring/summer. Thanks for the comment!
-Nick 😃👍
Wow... look how quick the beard is coming back!!!! How's your mom????
Thanks for asking! She is doing better. Chemotherapy is done and now she has radiation every day for 6 weeks
@@RideAlongside great to hear!
12 speed chains are slow
Nope, I will still stay with my 12 speed
Great! If it works for you, stick with it.
I use 1 x 11 because I don't need a stupid dinner plate hanging off my rear wheel, more mass and such low range you might aswell walk... But 1x 10 is pushing it, 1 x 11 can be had cheap enough..if you want to save money just buy Shimano SLX
You may be surprised how this 10 speed system functions with 11-48t. I know I was pleasantly surprised. Last year, I ran 1x11 Shimano XT with 11-42t cassette and was totally content. I literally made the same comments you just did. I would take this over 11 speed XT however. Seriously. Long term review will come later, in spring or summer so stay tuned.
Thanks for the comment.
-Nick 😃👍
SRAM Eagle 50t, ftw
Not for me. Glad it works well for you though!
@@RideAlongside I just like the shifting precision of SRAM over Shimano. Never liked "squishy" shifting. SRAM shifts feel like racking the slide of a handgun. Crisp and mechanical.
Dang do you have covid?
Maybe. Why do you ask?