Inexpensive MTB Drivetrain Upgrades with clutches Part 1 of 3: Microshift Advent 9
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2020
- While the mountain biking world continues to get bigger cassettes with more gears, you have to ask yourself do you need all those gears or could something simpler and cheaper work nearly as well or possibly better? I will do a simple test for 3 weeks on 3 1x9 or 1x8 drivetrains with clutches for less than $150 for derailleur, cassette, shifter, and chain. Links below where you can find these systems and also some tools that you may need if you are a DIY kind of guy (we may or may not receive some affiliate income if you choose to purchase from the links. We appreciate your support).
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Week 1: Microshift Advent 1x9
Microshift Advent 9 shifter (with bearing) - recommended over cheaper shifter
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Microshift Advent 9 Cassette (w/ alloy large cog) a bit lighter than non alloy
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Microshift Advent 9 rear derailleur w/ clutch (medium cage). Long cage available as well, but medium will work fine and not as long
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KMC X9.93 (9-speed chain used with this Advent system)
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Tools needed to for drivetrain surgery
Cassette lockring tool (to remove cassette)
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Chainwhip tool (to hold on to cassette while turning lockring tool counter clockwise)
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Cable cutters (to cut your gear cable housing and cable)
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Jagwire cable housing slick (the shifter will have the cable, you do need housing though unless reusing existing but make sure it's in good shape 1st)
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If you don't have a cassette and have a freewheel instead. Here is an optional one and also the tool to remove
Dimension 8-speed 11-34t freewheel
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Freewheel removal tool
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I installed the Advent 9spd group, on my hardtail and my full sush. Have always been a Shimano xt guy, until now. This microshift advent system is outstanding! In use for over 1 year, no problems, smooth shifting, no maintenance, no complaints. It's performance is much higher than the price might indicate. I enjoyed and appreciated your video. You seem to always put out some good stuff!
Hey thanks for the comment and insight! Nice you have it on both especially coming from XT. Glad to hear no problems so far. Yeah I have a feeling I’ll be installing it on more bikes soon, we will see how the other 2 perform. Thanks again and take care
Super detailed, nice job! Can't wait to see how our ADVENT compares to the other two groups!
Thanks! Yeah so far it has been my favorite, nice work! Though at a higher price point, the Advent X will be tested soon as well. I was going to order from QBP the other day and it sold out super quick so I think you guys have another winner with that one! Take care
Will the advent x ever be available again? I cannot find it available anywhere
@@potatothing3240 Yes, some inventory is going to arrive in November.
@@microSHIFTTECH oh nice thanks for telling me
@@potatothing3240 I had to purchase the shifter, cassette, and derailleur all from different websites. Look around and you can piece your set together. This was just three days ago.
Microshift Advent is a great 1x9 system. Great value and really decent
build quality. and this is from someone who runs a 1x11 Shimano SLX for my
1x - - Built a 1x9 for a friend's bike and it works really great; at a fraction of what I spent.
Would highly recommend.
Awesome! Thanks for the comment and sharing your experience
You’re channel is a hidden gem. Have a feeling it is going to blow up soon.
Hey thanks for that. Ha, who knows, but for now it has been fun when I can find the time and make some videos on things that may be able to help others. Appreciate the support and take care
I just binge watched all your past videos to keep myself sane during quarantine. Great channel, keep up the good work building bikes and saving turtles!
Haha! Thanks man. Glad you are staying sane! Ha, yeah that turtle had a death wish cruising around on the singletrack 😀
Can't wait for the next videos!
Keep up the videos my man. This is helping out a lot of people that are newer to MB and that don't have a lot of knowledge. I like watching the "MILLION" dollar bike videos but I like the down to earth videos that teach you stuff. Keep up the videos.
Thanks for your comment! Glad to hear and that is the main goal. Take care
Always informative and well done. Another great video
Thanks dude!
Keep it up. We need more affordable mountain bike component reviews. Good work!
Thanks for your comment and yes agreed 😀
Very good video and narrative!
Very helpful video. Nicely done!
Thanks man!
Loving this channel. My friend has the Axum and he was looking exactly at the BOX drivetrain. Now you are showing more options. Awesome.
Hey thanks! Oh cool, yeah I’ve seen some people doing some reviews on that bike, I haven’t had much time lately to investigate it bit it looks cool. Yeah if it has a freehub than it should work, freewheel than no go without a new hub or wheel.
Biking Roots Yeah that bike is really cool. It comes with an 8 speed cassette I hope is the normal free hub. He is going to change the breaks too. Man still deciding for the dropper post but it will come. Thanks for your videos I can’t wait for the coming ones.
I have the axum. Love it. Alot of bike for the money.
@@junboo8730 I have an Axum and a week or so ago I put this microshift drivetrain on it, went right on with no issues. The stock chainring is a decent enough narrow wide for the job too
I've been using the Advent since January 2020. It has been flawless the entire time and has survived some decent impacts without issue. I did lose the clutch switch cover in one of those crashes so its a bare metal post but still functions as it should. Quality drive train at a great price. I have a bike build coming up and it'll have the Microshift Advent X going on it most likely. If not, it'll be the Advent 9 spd.
Nice! Thanks for your comment and glad to hear that it has survived some impacts. Advent X looks sweet and put one on a build but never had a chance to properly ride with it since we sold the bike soon after. Advent X is also super hard to source right now from our distributor. Thanks again and take care
It worked great that's all I run on my bikes very good on trails
Nice! Thanks
Keep posting more content like this
Will do! Let me know if there’s any other type that would be useful for you. Thanks
I had freewheel but now I have the box components 8 speed, works perfectly
Awesome, glad you could upgrade and glad to hear you are having a good experience with it!
Nobody ever talks about the crankset issues. Thank you!
No problem! Let me know if you have any questions with it
Great video, man. I’ve been really considering the advent or the AdventX for my bobcat trail 3, but i’d would also a need the cranks as well. The only issue is that theey are not available in my country so I have to ship it. I’m looking forward to see those others drivetrains for more cheap but awsome options.
Thanks for the comment and sorry the parts are harder to find in your country. Since the video, Microshift also has an Acolyte option which is less than the Advent series but works well. Also, shimano has some affordable options as well that sometimes can get in that price range (if you can find them of course). Good luck with the search
Saving a turtle, totally worth a subscribe.
Haha, I come across a lot of critters these days (mostly snakes lately) but always enjoy saying hello to the turtles! Take care and thanks for the support!
Nice
I have a company renting out E-Mtb's. This groupset looks like gold for that purpose.
The 9-speed chains are very cheap and relatively strong (thicker)
It has plenty of range i could do with less with E-Mtb's.
And most important the clutch, Deore 9 speed that is one them now doesn't have a clutch. Which means the chain can quiet easily drop off at the front.
I will be sure to try to contact one of their reps. Seems like a very good option indeed.
Thanks for your comment and hope it helps. Yeah, that sounds like it could be a great option for you. Good luck!
Just install the Microshift Advent X on steel mountain bike frame and looking forward to riding with it. The only thing is I'll have to get used to the shifter with the push push shifting different than the Shimano
Oh awesome, that’s what I’m going to install on my Surly Karate Monkey build, just haven’t had time. Hope you like it!
@@BikingRoots After riding the Microshift Advent X for a few rides I have to say it is quite nice and very precise in shifting performance
Great vid.
Hope you can get a hold of the Advent X and compare with the Advent 😉
Thanks, yes have a couple sets that will be installed soon and tested. Stay tuned
@@BikingRoots cool. Looking forward to it.
Now Microshift Acolyte will work perfectly with Shimano and Microshift 9-11 speed shifters. No need to pay extra for the rear derailleur. Acolyte is just 15g heavier than Advent. Acolyte will run with 11-48T cassettes.
Really? You’ve tried it? I have not and didn’t think the pull ratio was the same. Also, I didn’t think the cage on acolyte or advent could go past 46t.
I have an old 1999 Yeti ARC XTR, trying to decide if it is worth upgrading the drivetrain to a 1x, a new suspension fork and a disc brakes (which I think would need new disc compatible wheels too?) or just buy a new bike. The bike has already been modified by me when I was younger so I am not worried about keeping the original specs of the bike. Still has all of the original 1999 XTR components but I swapped the fork for a rigid fork a while ago which I do not like.
Thanks for sharing. Hmm, I would say if you have an emotional attachment to the bike and just want to modernize it and don’t mind putting money into it that probably won’t come back when you sell it, then I would say go for it. Does it not have disc brakes now? If it doesn’t, then you may not be able to depending on the frame mounts. If you are talking a 1x conversion, new fork, brakes, etc that will transform the bike but also cost a good amount and parts are hard to find right now. A lot has changed in the biking world since 99 though and you cannot change the old school geometry and wheel size of the bike. I’d probably lean towards saving your money and using it towards an newer hardtail with an air fork or a full suspension bike if budget allows. Good luck
Marin hawk hill or Calibre bossnut which is better for the money
I'm not a creative person. The comments left by Branden Gandy,Gregory Novak, and Brent m sum up my feelings. You're a cool dude.
Ha, thanks
Did you get the trigger or the pro shifter? If you were to place it X7 and below or x9 and up where would the shifter fall in terms of actuation? The box shifters are super stiff!
I had the trigger though since then I’ve also tried the pro. I’m in between which is better for me. Depends on what style you are used to
My first Mtb Had this driveterrian and the derailleur after some time acts up and the jockey wheels get bad Quickley. Also the cassette is to little since I live in the bay area
Thanks. Uh oh... hmm hopefully it was an isolated problem. Yeah depending on where you live, you may need more range. The Advent X had 48t so that could be better for those in the steeper parts of the country
Thanks for the video! What action camera are you using?
Thanks for the comment and question. For now just use a gopro hero 7 black for POV riding footage (with special mount to a roost guard and external power bank) and a hero 8 black for vlogging (sometimes hooked to power bank too since gopros suck with battery life! Not perfect by any means but they work for now
hi I was wondering if you had enough range for both downhill trails and long uphill climbs
Depends where you live. For me, I’m not super fast so 11T low cog is fine with a 32 or 30T up front. As far as you low speed big cog, depends on your leg strength! When I was in Utah last fall, my 50T didn’t seem enough for some of those climbs! Around Houston, we rarely get out of 36T since we have short small climbs. 42 is plenty but they also have a 46T option with the advent now if you need more range. Also past that they have a 48T but only in the Advent X I believe
How about a sensah drivetrain. And can you do an episode on grips and another on saddles, would like to see wtb , ergon, specialized , terry and bike planet saddles. thanks
Thanks, wasn’t familiar with the sensah, looks cool. Thanks for the tips and ideas, hopefully I can do some soon. Take care
Steve at Hardtail Party swears by MicroShift. How does it compare to SRAM GX groupset? I know one is 10s and the other is eagle but how does the build quality, shift performance, and durability compare?
Thanks for the comment and question. My opinion would be that Advent X is more of an NX comparison based on the shift performance and quality. Not that the Advent X isn’t good but I just think they are in a different category (and price does reflect that). I can’t comment on long term Advent X since I just haven’t ridden one with it long enough to see but have heard good things. One thing I will note is that Eagle (or Shimano 12 speed) is great when it is setup properly but as soon as it stretches or you crash, it is very easily upset and your shifts go to garbage. This is due to the fact that there just isn’t much room for error in the spacing for a 12 speed. A little bit of movement can get it upset. I’d argue a 10 speed drivetrain is more forgiving and can handle more of a misalignment. So tough decision. Both good options, just weigh the pros and cons. Good luck!
Does this fit on a polygon heist 2? It is currently using a Shimano altus
Yes it should fit fine if you have a shimano HG freehub body (which it sounds like you do). You’d need to swap out the cassette, derailleur, shifter, and chain. Good luck!
I have a trek Marlin 7 (2020) and im interested in going to a 1x9. can you recommend a crankset that would be, compatible with the advent 9 and allow me to try an oval chain ring up front?
Hmm I think you have a square tapered bottom bracket so the cheapest and probably simplest option would be either a suntour xcm-t (then remove the rings) and install your 104bcd oval or round chainring. Also the sunrace fc-m80u has a chain ring with it that I think you could remove. Either one you are probably between $50-60
@@BikingRoots thanks for the reply, much appreciated. looks like both of those are in limited supply; still a good place to start.
Look into FSA cranks - the crank and their external bottom brackets
are inexpensive and a great upgrade if you are still running an internal
square-taper bottom bracket.
Would the box prime 9 be compatible with a SRAM 9 speed hub?
Should be if it is the normal shimano freehub body which it probably is. It isn’t compatible with sram xd driver.
Microshift now have 9 speed with a 11-46 tooth cassette should be awesome
Thanks! Yeah I saw that which is sweet and it works with the normal mid or long cage derailleur they have which is cool
where can you buy the 11-46 tooth cassette?
Hopefully you can him me out. I have 2x10 36x24 xt drivetrain on my full suspension. What would be the best setup for a 1x10? So can make it much more efficient climbing Thanks.
Thanks for the question. Microshift does have a 10 speed option now as well if you wanted to go that route. Up front you can probably remove the crank ring bolts since it is an XT then buy a raceface 32t or 30t ring or a generic brand as well. If you currently have a 10 speed system now you could keep the shifter and then upgrade the rear cassette to a 42t or 46t (shimano or sunrace could work) with an xt derailleur or something less expensive from Shimano with a clutch (slx, deore).
@@BikingRoots My bike is only 4 months old. So pretty much all the xt drivetrain is new. It is a 10 speed. I appreciate the help. 32 tooth 1x and 42 cassette.
I have this deraileur and have snapped 5 cables in 2 months at the rear deraileur. They rub while shifting fray and then snap there. Anyone experienced this with this deraileur? Suggestions?
Yikes, that’s not good. Haven’t heard of it happening. Sorry
The bikes I had as a kid didn't have different gears but I just got a new bike that has the microSHIFT Advent, 9-Speed shifters and I'm so confused. I just need someone to explain what the two levers do
The trigger or the button your pointer finger touches goes up in gear towards 9 (makes you go faster) by loosening the cable to allow the derailleur to move towards the smallest cog on the cassette. The thumb button tightens the cable moving the derailleur to the bigger rings making it easier to pedal
Biking Roots Thank you so much!
What wheel set did you use for your Iron horse
These were some inexpensive WTB wheels I got on Amazon before I opened my shop. They were like $130 for a set if I remember right. Don’t see them on there anymore unfortunately. They aren’t bad but not great either. Price was what I was more concerned about with these and I think they even came with some cheap tires.
I currently have an 8 speed cassette on the back. How do I determine if I can fit a 9 or 10 ?
8speed hub bodies happily take 9 or 10 speed cassettes.
Looks like the question was answered, sorry for the delay but yup you should be good to go!
Does anyone know where I can buy this in the uk
Just bought this on special offer from kids racing Ltd in the uk. Arrived in a couple of days - fitting to my retro gravel/mtb/thing once a few more parts arrive for the rebuild. Feels good quality stuff and the shop service has been excellent.
Sorry to say that getting rid of 21-29 speed. Bunk as hell. The big thing is people don't want to work to get speed anymore.
Isnt the freehub body 8 to 11 speed ?
I would say many are but some are weird and are only 7, others 8-10, others 11 and then also 12. It can get a bit confusing
Can you provide all the part numbers for the micro shift ?
Advent 9 42T cassette : CS-H093A 11-42
Advent 9 speed shifter (w/ bearing) : SL-M8195-R
Advent 9-speed derailleur w/ clutch (med cage) : RD-M619M
Good luck!
@@BikingRoots are you selling these parts at your shop?
I wish there was some budget 10, 9 or 8 speed cassettes for XD drivers with the smallest cog starting at 9 or 10 teeth.... If anybody knows one, please let me know :)
( I cant fit a bigger ring in the front)
Thanks for the comment and question. Yeah that would be nice. I don’t know of any budget ones. ethirteen I know as some 11 and 12 speed XD cassettes that are 9-46 and bigger but they are very light and not cheap. If I find any options I’ll let you know
How much does the microshift go for wholesale?
A little less than retail! There really isn’t much profit in drivetrains these days.
@@BikingRoots Do you have an email?
Wow. Timberlane got way cooler in the past 6 years.
Oh nice! I’ve only been riding it for almost 2 years so glad to know it is better than it was! Paul and Brett are the stewards and they rock!
Free bike please from ph here