@@NizzumnutsNo he didn't happen his 2nd in command happened Neil didn't plan to kill Joel off well at least not so early in the game but he went along with the idea.
I mean… she doesn’t need to say the exact words. Clearly, the framing of the scene was enough to make you think of the callback on your own. It’s good when media assumes their audience has a brain and wants to use it.
I wonder how many immune people there are cause she's immune cause her mom got infected while she was pregnant with Abby so theres no way that didn't happen to more than one person
when you’re at that level of rage and seeking revenge a lot of the time you can’t think that far unfortunately😭 a real shame bc it would have made a mad clip
@@theerealatm yeah the "Rattlers" work you down to nothing then kill you. I'd be surprised if they ever fed the slave's/prisoner's. Abby probably lasted longer than most because of the muscles
I love How people talk about how killing Abby would make a endless cycle of revenge when Ellie had already slaughtered every single person Abby knew and loved, even random people she would just cross paths with. Would literally be noone to avenge Abby anyways lmao. Yeah sure I am sure no family of the people she mercilessly killed will come after her. I am sure Abby wont go back for round 2 when she realises all her friends are dead.
@@schnitzelfritzel6287"Revenge bad! Forget about the 100+ people i've killed to reach Abby only to let her live in the end!" Such great writing... No wonder why Amy Hennig left. The writers at Naughty Dogs are too damn incompetent.
Because the Abby we see here is not the same Abby that scored a Birdie on Joel. Ellie should have killed her in Seattle during those 3 days, any time after that’s not worth it
She ruthlessly killed a random guy who did nothing to her and who gave her the information she wanted, but she would not kill Abby, the woman who tortured and murdered her father figure.
Uhm, if you actually watch the entire cutscene they first catch ellie in a trap then try to get her eaten by an infected because she is too slim to be of any use as a slave… She executed slavers you moron.
He attacked her and abby didnt Ellie was forcing herself and abby to fight. She didnt went to Santa Barbara for revenge but to stop her ptsd But you dont care. You stll be the whiny hater who refuse to let go ir listen and keep complaing untill your last fucking breath
@@TheMETALICA40What? Joel was a major plot point in TLOU2. He might be the most important character in both games. He’s had such a large effect on both the plot and the characters. Just because he dies doesn’t mean that they “want nothing to do with him.”
@@uhuhuh1966 Yeah, I realized that fact when I was talking to my friend. My friend and I were having a debate about TLOU 2 and he was like "Abby should've died" and I was like "Yeah, she would've been deserving of it, but then what would happen with Lev?" and he was like "Who cares?"... and then we proceeded to have a circular conversation that never got anywhere
@@KazeShikamaru Nah, when you go through an entire city basically just to kill one person, killing a shit ton of people no "it's deeper than that" should stop you from killing the mf you tried to find. But revenge bad amirite?
the fuckin slaver deserved to die. i think we he said “that’s where we keep em” ellie had already decided on what she was gonna do. can’t imagine what the guy was thinking in his last moments after being shot, though
If u think abt it, abby had the least kill count among joel and ellie basing off her not being the 1st game. Ofc that excluded the emotional factor of having her golf club joel
No, she killed a guy who caught her in a rope trap that gave her a huge wound in her side, then was planning to kill or capture her like he's done to countless other innocents until she turned the tables, then gave her info out of fear when he had no other options and was just trying to save his own skin. Then spared Abby, a girl who killed her father figure because he killed her literal father for planning to do something that Ellie admitted she wanted and never forgave Joel for before he died, but Abby then spared her and her uncle figure, then her friends were ALL murdered by Ellie and Tommy (putting the murdered loved ones tally at 9:1 heavily in favor of Abby being the more screwed over one [her dad, Jordan, Nick, Nora, Manny, Alice the dog, Owen, Mel, and Mel's baby), then in a showdown which Abby won she spared Ellie's preggo friend despite the fact that Ellie killed Abby's preggo friend AND her baby daddy, then demonstrated such a selfless passion for saving this little kid she loves so much, who Ellie threatened to kill if Abby didn't fight her, when all Abby wanted to do was walk away, then finally spared her when she realizes that vengeance won't fix anything and they've both killed almost everyone the other cares about but Abby has Lev and she has Dina and Lev will die if Abby dies and they just need to call it square and part ways forever or else the cycle of vengeance will never stop. For god's sake, Abby killed Dina's baby daddy and even SHE was begging Ellie to let it go. It took knowing that she COULD kill her to finally decide to spare her.
If you want the message of your video game to be that revenge isn't worth it and isn't okay, don't have your main character kill ruthlessly throughout the story only to hesitate when finally meeting the person that they had previously killed all those people to find...
@@leonardocoutomaciel4997 Right and it literally left him an emotionally broken and scarred man that regrets his decision to kill him because it brought him no solace nor peace to his life. He found that peace and solace thru *letting go* of what happened to him all those years ago and he realizes that is what he should've done when he went on his rampage.
@@ryikipierson4145 I have played rdr2. All four endings with different Arthurs all starting fresh near Valentine. All of the choices in rdr2 don’t matter that much. Just different outcomes of the same scenario. It would’ve been cool if we could press square or circle to choose. Tlou2 is a controversial masterpiece either way.
@@ryikipierson4145 Tbh I wish I could play rdr2 for the first time again. The first heist payout. The first gold bar. Not knowing which weapons are best. Arthur’s rampages when he realized he was gonna die. He was slaughtering men in the small coastal town with the female bartender. Many people tried to stop him but eventually they just started walking by and turning heads. Woman in Valentine dropped to her knees in the mud saying I killed her husband then I gave her $5 and got bad honor, that was hilarious. It’ll never be the same.. THE COON HAT STORY 🤣 Drunk guy coved in animal pelts in Valentine saloon, you know the one. He was being mean to everyone so I approached him. He got annoyed and stood up. He was sitting at a table by the wall. This man had too many this day and barely managed to get his fists up. Arthur cracked him in the jaw so hard that you could hear the punch land outside. Guy’s coon hat went flying straight up into the air. He was so drunk that he fell backwards but the wall caught him by his head. Then the coon hat comes down and cracks him in his forehead flooring him. Funniest thing I’ve seen in my entire life. Punchline is the bartender still serves Arthur right after the man dropped and I got a free coon hat which I’ll never use 😂
I don’t get why the game paints Ellie like a stone cold killer sometimes but then when she finds the person she’s been wanting to kill she then shows mercy 🤦🏻♂️
Because she is a stone cold killer at this point of game, she's completely obsessed with the idea of getting to Abby, with no regard to human life anymore, killing is just a tool. Ellie searches for Abby without knowing what she'll do to her when she finds her, you can see the hesitation in the scene where she packs the backpack in Jackson, she just wants the nightmares to end. I think there's two reasons why Ellie didn't kill Abby. One is that she saw herself and Joel in the bond that Abby and Lev have formed, I think she also felt disgusting by the fact that she threatened to kill Lev, a little kid. The second reason is that Abby didn't kill Ellie in Seattle day 3 when she had a chance and a good damn reason. I think that the fact that Ellie killed all of Abby's friends, including pregnant Mel, and the fact that Abby have beaten Ellie and Dina, but spared them, was on Ellie's mind all the time. In that sense sparing Abby wasn't an act of mercy, but an act of repaying a debt. Damn that's a long read.
@@boombox9509 TLOU2’s story is irredeemable drivel. If you believe that its story is innovative, bold, or risqué in anyway, you’re wrong. The narrative fails at every turn to convince us of or lead us to its message that revenge is bad. Crucial character development is missing, forgone in favor of unrelatable personality shifts among the leading characters that make no sense contextually. As a consequence, the story is deprived of meaningful conflict and motivation. It is fine to enjoy the game. It is even fine to praise the game for anything other than its writing. But to praise the writing of the narrative is simply incorrect and untenable. The story should be considered a failure of good fictional writing on 3 major accounts: (1) the fundamental premise of the plot is simply a rehashed, cliché tale that is as old as time, offering nothing new or interesting in terms of storytelling while failing to effectively convey a higher message or moral; (2) the writing fails to develop interesting or believable conflict that organically propel the plot forward; (3) and the writing fails to develop complex and nuanced characters that the audience can relate to due to its inability to construct believable character arcs.
@@ctacgidra Also crucial is that Ellie chases Abby to California not exactly for revenge but because she thinks its the only way she can make up for ignoring Joel all those years. In the water, she finally forgives Joel for lying and herself for mistreating him. Do I think the execution was perfect? No, but I think it was done okay and someone has to be actively bad faith to read the ending as just "revenge bad".
@@boombox9509I get what your saying but why was this game even made in the first place? 😂 Ellis goes through zero arc. She goes for revenge, spares the person, ends up miserable and depressed, just like she was at the start. This game was so dumb and was made completely out of order. In no universe should you be forced to watch your favorite character die in the BEGINNING OF THE GAME. And then play as the killer for 10-12 hours 😂. This game was awful
Ellie was lost at this point. She was in a mental war within herself due to unresolved guilt and PTSD from witnessing Joel's death. Even as she takes Abby down from the pillar she's not sure whether to let her go or not briefly. A flash of Joel's battered and bloody face makes her fight again. The memory of Joel playing his guitar and the unconditional love he had for her makes her let go.. ❤
Oh, my God this would have been the best scene for her to say Joel's line from the interrogation in the first one just alright I believe you then she just lights his ass up
also bc of the trauma and stuff she mentions in her journals that she cant eat so you just see her get progressively skinnier you can definitely see it in her face
I don't know, maybe I'm the only one on this, but I think they went a little too far with the "Weathered cold survivor" type with Ellie in the second game. She's basically a psychopath who kills because she can.
I agree. I didn't want to follow her on this path while playing this game, Like she gives Joel shit for what he did and tried to be better just to end up even worse by killing probably hundreds of Wolves and Scars for petty revenge.
@@Victor_Von-Doom_ogJoel only killed those who truly deserved it and Ellie in the second game would set someone on fire for looking at her wrong. I wish that tlou 2 never even came out because I’ve lost so much respect for Ellie.
i believe the point of the plot is showing a broken world with an endless cycle of death and cruelty. The way the world is portrayed in a grey picture is perfect... the set up with joel being ruthless turned back into a caring father when he meets ellie, same with abby she had love and a caring family but because of ruthless joel it made abby become ruthless ending in death. Same with ellie she was a funny loving young girl turned ruthless because of what abby did which all LEADS back to JOEL.. the links are just amazing and i will die on this hill the the last of us whole storyline is amazing.
Ellie kills many people who just wanted to live their lives and did nothing wrong but then went on to let Abby live even though she could’ve just mindlessly killed her like she does with everyone else
This game is goty lil bro😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
People that say “but she didn’t kill Abby” are missing the point imo. Why would she care about these guys? She knows nothing about them and therefore she has no attachment to sparing them. More importantly, she is still on her path of darkness and revenge at the point of this guy’s death. The whole point of her forgiving Abby is letting go and leaving that path. She could only do that with Abby because of their connection to both of their fathers deaths. By Abby letting go first and Elllie letting go last, they both leave that path of destruction. And if Ellie met this guy on the road now, she most likely wouldn’t kill him because of that lesson learned from choosing to love and forgive Joel for what happened and in the process forgiving Abby as well. Damn people really miss the point of the 2nd game but when you sit with it, phenomenal game and story. Now, I do understand the appeal of going all in into having Ellie kill Abby at the end and she loses everything and herself as a consequence of that. However, I think it’s happier and better to think she chose to learn how to forgive. That scene with Joel at the end is one of my favorite scenes of the franchise. It’s tragic but also beautiful and showed that in the end, Joel knew him and Ellie would be okay. “If the Lord gave me a second chance, I’d do it all over again” always gives me goosebumps. It was not as good as the first because the first is the magnum opus of storytelling in video games imo. There was no beating it. But they had a great story and beat the first in just about every other way(gameplay, graphics, mechanics, animations, audio and OST) deserved GOT and still sticks with me as one of my favorite games of all time.
Everyone complaining she didnt kill Abby.... THAT WAS THE POINT! SHE REALIZED SHE TOOK MORE THAN SHE LOST AND THAT SHE WAS ABOUT TO DO THE SAME THING ABBY DID TO HER TO LEV! She even references this in her song The Guardian written by real life artist shawn james "kill or be killed what a way to live and die I just cant see the cycle ever ending so ill become the bringer of death the lover of life the one who guards from the dark of the night ill be the hammer of war. Justice and mercy dont live side by side so in retribution ill abide."
@@byeah4823LMAO HOW?? because Joel died? How is that disrespectful? Would you say that the walking dead game is bad as well? Cause they killed off Lee at the end of the first season? Brain dead take. The game is great. Y’all people just can’t handle the fact joel was killed, which he deserved because he ruined the one Chance humanity had at a cure and then lied to ellie about it. Killed innocent people and expected no sort of revenge coming his way?
@@blairebaker7211 lee’s death was handled so much better than joel’s, and after joel’s death the game honestly felt like it was about abby rather than ellie
Every other voice actor: Uses different tones and accents to create unique voices Travis Willingham: "You see, I have this technique called Using My Voice-" I love Travis btw, it's just always funny to hear his iconic voice in every game he's in-
![Yeat & Quavo - 5BRAZY [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4XxnTAwyxus/mqdefault.jpg)
"Arms like mine"💀
She built like a wwe fighter
Damn... Just one look at the old man and I see Abby in him 😅
And she looks 43 😂
Edit: it's a joke 🤷
@@brandonoliver5304fr I hated playing as her her build was too manly
@@thegarfieldtaviuswell it’s a he that decided to become a she even though that’s such a stupid thing.
I love Ellie’s smirk when she realizes she got bit again
bro why the fuck is your pfp ronnie
Ya she's like
"Oh no
Anyways"
She's immune no?
@@captainstun2981ye
@@captainstun2981but she just wants to hide her immunity for good purposes
“Oh and by the way, I’m immune.”
*suppressed gunshot*
I was really hoping that was gonna happen during that cutseen
*gets knocked out by someone behind her as soon as she says it*
@@oreodealer6yearsago718frrr
No witnesses
She’s not tho
Was waiting for a callback to Joel’s “I believe him” with Ellie saying “I believe you” right before she kills this guy
the should've done it. Would've been dope
@@metalmarten3478more things could have been dope but drunkman happened...
@@NizzumnutsNo he didn't happen his 2nd in command happened Neil didn't plan to kill Joel off well at least not so early in the game but he went along with the idea.
@@inyourgrillbrunson9575
Who his 2nd in command? Lol
He flopped the writing so hard after competent people left
I mean… she doesn’t need to say the exact words. Clearly, the framing of the scene was enough to make you think of the callback on your own. It’s good when media assumes their audience has a brain and wants to use it.
The scariest part is no one knows Ellie is immune and walks around with bites
It makes me wonder if she could bite and infect other people
@@kyle3465She can’t, that’s not how it works
@@SiegwardofCatarina_ thats true since dina definitely would've turned by now
I wonder how many immune people there are cause she's immune cause her mom got infected while she was pregnant with Abby so theres no way that didn't happen to more than one person
@@kyle3465 she cant. She bite Abby in the teather and over a year later, Abby stills alive. Not to mention all the times she kisses Dina
I wish she told him she’s immune before shooting him just to fuck with him 😂
I want her to say that to him so bad man. and then showing her old bite.. that would be just perfectly punishment for that motherfucker
He wouldn't believe her anyways lol
@@Ugh718it wouldve been good comedic relief though lol
when you’re at that level of rage and seeking revenge a lot of the time you can’t think that far unfortunately😭 a real shame bc it would have made a mad clip
I just had a feeling ellie was gonna shoot him anyways
"I swear"
"It's alright, I beieve you"
wheres the fun in that
@@KingEproyojoel says this when he tortured 2 guys
@@rogerroger2377damn you beat me to it lol
But it’s not gonna save you
Didnt he say that to the other guy who told him he wont answer sh*t and joel said „thats alright I believe him“
“Arms like mine”
I love how everyone just collectively agrees that Abby is fucking jacked
There, you guys happy?
well, that just means they have eyesight
Was jacked
"agrees" like it's some kind of insight
She did atrophy bad... Hanging from a pole. @@ChiralityPracticality
@@theerealatm yeah the "Rattlers" work you down to nothing then kill you. I'd be surprised if they ever fed the slave's/prisoner's. Abby probably lasted longer than most because of the muscles
Bruh she kills everyone except Abby 😂
CaUsE ReVeNgE bAd!!! But yknow, only when it comes to the actual person who killed your father figure.
@@solvexisJoel did the same thing aswell as killing Abby's other friends and stuff.
That’s basically the point of whole plot
@@TheKRID54 Yea and it sucks
@@NexusOng17......... bro.....what?
She learned from Joel how to get answers:
If they swear, kill’em.
what if they swear on they mama?
They momma dead@@poopymaster_kingXxninjaXX69420
@@poopymaster_kingXxninjaXX69420death penalty
they would probably swear on their mama rather than die lmao 💀
What's the point of that
Well he lied
-she was on a pillar
-arms like noodles
Liar!
He was the one who caught abby, he probably hasnt seen her and lev after the catch, its been a month or so after all
@@Mr_van_Der_Linde this explanation is too good my brain can't handle it
@@mk_kyleq what I meant is that he probably hasnt seen abby and lev after the catch, and he is describing abby the way he remembers her
@@Mr_van_Der_Linde my brain better
Cool
lmao
Ellie took one look at the bite and didn't even care one bit lmao
Don't u mean...One BITE?
*_LMAO_*
@@Ugh718 didn't need to say "one bite" because the video already shows she got bit.
@@EyxhZ-_-bro...
@@EyxhZ-_- You're an Idjit. It was a pun. Bit? Bite? Get it? 🤦😂
I think u missed the joel bud @@EyxhZ-_-
She spares Abby but kills the guy who actually helps her 💀
woke writing :/
@@poopymaster_kingXxninjaXX69420 it doesn't mean anything
He’s a slaver…
@@poopymaster_kingXxninjaXX69420 what does that have to with woke?
Exactly
But she didn't kill Abby..
Ikr.. At that point just do it
No all this shit came from violence what's the point you'll just cause more death
Abby already suffered enough.
Such a garbage game
Yeah because revenge bad but Abby gets to have her revenge and that magically makes it ok
All this to spare Abby in the end 💀
I love How people talk about how killing Abby would make a endless cycle of revenge when Ellie had already slaughtered every single person Abby knew and loved, even random people she would just cross paths with. Would literally be noone to avenge Abby anyways lmao. Yeah sure I am sure no family of the people she mercilessly killed will come after her. I am sure Abby wont go back for round 2 when she realises all her friends are dead.
@@schnitzelfritzel6287😂😂that makes it funnier, she killed all of Abby’s friends but then couldn’t kill abby😂😂wow
@@schnitzelfritzel6287"Revenge bad! Forget about the 100+ people i've killed to reach Abby only to let her live in the end!"
Such great writing... No wonder why Amy Hennig left. The writers at Naughty Dogs are too damn incompetent.
Pfp?
@@killer_wasmad5721 u mad
"arms like mine". bro just wanted to gas himself up lmao
So she spares Abby but this dude gets axed zero hesitation -.-
Shit game shit writing
Because the Abby we see here is not the same Abby that scored a Birdie on Joel. Ellie should have killed her in Seattle during those 3 days, any time after that’s not worth it
@@outdoorscholar6016 so killing all those people on the way to kill Abby wasn’t worth it
There was no more reason to kill Abby. Ellie was doing this because she couldn't forget about Joel.
@@RealPointVPointEllie tried and failed. She looks like she forced herself to try again.
She ruthlessly killed a random guy who did nothing to her and who gave her the information she wanted, but she would not kill Abby, the woman who tortured and murdered her father figure.
And people still saying best game ever, what a piece of shi-
The worst game ever
Uhm, if you actually watch the entire cutscene they first catch ellie in a trap then try to get her eaten by an infected because she is too slim to be of any use as a slave…
She executed slavers you moron.
He attacked her and abby didnt
Ellie was forcing herself and abby to fight. She didnt went to Santa Barbara for revenge but to stop her ptsd
But you dont care. You stll be the whiny hater who refuse to let go ir listen and keep complaing untill your last fucking breath
Mf he was a slave owners and hung people to be eaten by zombies fym "didnt deserve it" goofy
Really said Abby had beefy arms straight up
Yeah, some tasty steroids for breakfast
Shit was a filet mignon on a silver platter.
Cause it’s a dude
@@mk6315 true
@@playtinumi3359just good genetics, tren hard and eat clen
It would have been cold asf if she would have said what joel said in pt 1 and been like "I believe you" after killing him.
They hate Joel now they want nothing to do with him.
@@TheMETALICA40the last of us 3 commencera par J.J et Tommy qui tue Abby et Lev 😂🔥
before*
@@TheMETALICA40What? Joel was a major plot point in TLOU2. He might be the most important character in both games. He’s had such a large effect on both the plot and the characters. Just because he dies doesn’t mean that they “want nothing to do with him.”
That wouldn't have been cool that would just be callback for callback sakes
Ngl she did him a favour 💀
That part what would he do if zombies come after she left😂
@@Twili8697 I'm African
@@Twili8697what
@@REALNPC999can’t leave loose ends to chance
@@Zwane_Asiphilenahh your monkey
"Let me kill all those people on the way to get revenge..... nvm revenge bad you can go ms she-hulk"
It’s all because of Lev, no one ever takes Lev into account
@@uhuhuh1966 it was just kill him, or let him in the rope.
@@uhuhuh1966 Yeah, I realized that fact when I was talking to my friend. My friend and I were having a debate about TLOU 2 and he was like "Abby should've died" and I was like "Yeah, she would've been deserving of it, but then what would happen with Lev?" and he was like "Who cares?"... and then we proceeded to have a circular conversation that never got anywhere
It's a little deeper than that.
@@KazeShikamaru Nah, when you go through an entire city basically just to kill one person, killing a shit ton of people no "it's deeper than that" should stop you from killing the mf you tried to find. But revenge bad amirite?
the fuckin slaver deserved to die. i think we he said “that’s where we keep em” ellie had already decided on what she was gonna do. can’t imagine what the guy was thinking in his last moments after being shot, though
So did abby
@@Slobbynobby and so did ellie
@@longfish5174 aye. Fuck em all, at this point I'm rooting for the zoms
If u think abt it, abby had the least kill count among joel and ellie basing off her not being the 1st game. Ofc that excluded the emotional factor of having her golf club joel
Nah. He noticed she has a bite and that's why she knew she had to put him down. The dialogue is there for a reason.
ellie : a bite , oh no , anyway i started blasting
Considering what that group did to people, he deserved it.
he deserved worse tbh
Abby deserved it too right?
@@REAPERthePRUSKIE so does Ellie 🤭
Pretty merciful, too, considering the wound and the fact that the freed prisoners wouldn't exactly treat him with kid gloves.
@@oxnerdno she has plot armor
Spares the one who killed her father figure ✅
Spare the one who helped her ❌
Makes so much sense. 10/10 story 🤥
He a colonist responsible for all the empty ketchup bottles in Wakanda refrigerators.
@@MajinLordVegeta 10/10 story? No bro, this story was just a basic revenge story, there’s not a 10 in any of that😭🤦
No, she killed a guy who caught her in a rope trap that gave her a huge wound in her side, then was planning to kill or capture her like he's done to countless other innocents until she turned the tables, then gave her info out of fear when he had no other options and was just trying to save his own skin. Then spared Abby, a girl who killed her father figure because he killed her literal father for planning to do something that Ellie admitted she wanted and never forgave Joel for before he died, but Abby then spared her and her uncle figure, then her friends were ALL murdered by Ellie and Tommy (putting the murdered loved ones tally at 9:1 heavily in favor of Abby being the more screwed over one [her dad, Jordan, Nick, Nora, Manny, Alice the dog, Owen, Mel, and Mel's baby), then in a showdown which Abby won she spared Ellie's preggo friend despite the fact that Ellie killed Abby's preggo friend AND her baby daddy, then demonstrated such a selfless passion for saving this little kid she loves so much, who Ellie threatened to kill if Abby didn't fight her, when all Abby wanted to do was walk away, then finally spared her when she realizes that vengeance won't fix anything and they've both killed almost everyone the other cares about but Abby has Lev and she has Dina and Lev will die if Abby dies and they just need to call it square and part ways forever or else the cycle of vengeance will never stop. For god's sake, Abby killed Dina's baby daddy and even SHE was begging Ellie to let it go. It took knowing that she COULD kill her to finally decide to spare her.
@@b3a147r/woosh
She reminded me of Joel in this scene.
Joel taught Ellie to never spare a person’s life
Is joel cuck enough to forgive his father’s murderer for literally stupidest reason imaginable?
@@roncalaguas7974Yet she killed everyone even a family except Abby lmao this game is trash
@R0ZUE I like the game and I'm sorry you thought it qas trash
@@R0ZUEif anything having that little flash back before dealing the final blow to abby should of made her wanna do it even more
Wow it's almost like she didn't go through an entire game killing everyone she meets
Bad writing
If you want the message of your video game to be that revenge isn't worth it and isn't okay, don't have your main character kill ruthlessly throughout the story only to hesitate when finally meeting the person that they had previously killed all those people to find...
I love tlou fans cause yall love krqtos but hate ellie even though they did the exact same shit
@@ydlkomorebe426 I didn't play god of war
@@ydlkomorebe426but Kratos finished his revenge, he killed the main revenge target, Zeus. Ellie on the other hand didn't
@@leonardocoutomaciel4997 Right and it literally left him an emotionally broken and scarred man that regrets his decision to kill him because it brought him no solace nor peace to his life.
He found that peace and solace thru *letting go* of what happened to him all those years ago and he realizes that is what he should've done when he went on his rampage.
@@SomethingWittyRW true, dumb take on my part now that you reminded me this
The thing this game really really needed was a choice..
You need it.
Go play rdr2
@@ryikipierson4145 I have played rdr2. All four endings with different Arthurs all starting fresh near Valentine. All of the choices in rdr2 don’t matter that much. Just different outcomes of the same scenario. It would’ve been cool if we could press square or circle to choose. Tlou2 is a controversial masterpiece either way.
@@ryikipierson4145 Tbh I wish I could play rdr2 for the first time again. The first heist payout. The first gold bar. Not knowing which weapons are best. Arthur’s rampages when he realized he was gonna die. He was slaughtering men in the small coastal town with the female bartender. Many people tried to stop him but eventually they just started walking by and turning heads. Woman in Valentine dropped to her knees in the mud saying I killed her husband then I gave her $5 and got bad honor, that was hilarious. It’ll never be the same..
THE COON HAT STORY 🤣
Drunk guy coved in animal pelts in Valentine saloon, you know the one. He was being mean to everyone so I approached him. He got annoyed and stood up. He was sitting at a table by the wall. This man had too many this day and barely managed to get his fists up. Arthur cracked him in the jaw so hard that you could hear the punch land outside. Guy’s coon hat went flying straight up into the air. He was so drunk that he fell backwards but the wall caught him by his head. Then the coon hat comes down and cracks him in his forehead flooring him. Funniest thing I’ve seen in my entire life. Punchline is the bartender still serves Arthur right after the man dropped and I got a free coon hat which I’ll never use 😂
wouldnt make sense if part 3 comes out
That was the slowest and quietest gunshot of all time
almost as if that is a silenced SMG in a video game (so it doesn't have to completely adhere to realism, and the gunshot can be quieter)
@@SidPhoenix2211and even then, a supressed 9x19mm is pretty damn quiet all things considered
No shit it had a silencer
Nah this was a joke why am I being chewed out
She reminded me Rick Grimes. "I lied"
nooooo never make that comparison again
One is a lesbian 12 year old and one is a badass sheriff
@@mvximus3188She’s 19…
@codywoodvine9724 who?
doesn't help@@codywoodvine9724
I don’t get why the game paints Ellie like a stone cold killer sometimes but then when she finds the person she’s been wanting to kill she then shows mercy 🤦🏻♂️
Because she is a stone cold killer at this point of game, she's completely obsessed with the idea of getting to Abby, with no regard to human life anymore, killing is just a tool. Ellie searches for Abby without knowing what she'll do to her when she finds her, you can see the hesitation in the scene where she packs the backpack in Jackson, she just wants the nightmares to end. I think there's two reasons why Ellie didn't kill Abby. One is that she saw herself and Joel in the bond that Abby and Lev have formed, I think she also felt disgusting by the fact that she threatened to kill Lev, a little kid. The second reason is that Abby didn't kill Ellie in Seattle day 3 when she had a chance and a good damn reason. I think that the fact that Ellie killed all of Abby's friends, including pregnant Mel, and the fact that Abby have beaten Ellie and Dina, but spared them, was on Ellie's mind all the time. In that sense sparing Abby wasn't an act of mercy, but an act of repaying a debt. Damn that's a long read.
@@boombox9509wow this is the best explanation I've heard so far
@@boombox9509 TLOU2’s story is irredeemable drivel. If you believe that its story is innovative, bold, or risqué in anyway, you’re wrong. The narrative fails at every turn to convince us of or lead us to its message that revenge is bad. Crucial character development is missing, forgone in favor of unrelatable personality shifts among the leading characters that make no sense contextually. As a consequence, the story is deprived of meaningful conflict and motivation. It is fine to enjoy the game. It is even fine to praise the game for anything other than its writing. But to praise the writing of the narrative is simply incorrect and untenable.
The story should be considered a failure of good fictional writing on 3 major accounts: (1) the fundamental premise of the plot is simply a rehashed, cliché tale that is as old as time, offering nothing new or interesting in terms of storytelling while failing to effectively convey a higher message or moral; (2) the writing fails to develop interesting or believable conflict that organically propel the plot forward; (3) and the writing fails to develop complex and nuanced characters that the audience can relate to due to its inability to construct believable character arcs.
@@ctacgidra Also crucial is that Ellie chases Abby to California not exactly for revenge but because she thinks its the only way she can make up for ignoring Joel all those years. In the water, she finally forgives Joel for lying and herself for mistreating him. Do I think the execution was perfect? No, but I think it was done okay and someone has to be actively bad faith to read the ending as just "revenge bad".
@@boombox9509I get what your saying but why was this game even made in the first place? 😂 Ellis goes through zero arc. She goes for revenge, spares the person, ends up miserable and depressed, just like she was at the start. This game was so dumb and was made completely out of order. In no universe should you be forced to watch your favorite character die in the BEGINNING OF THE GAME. And then play as the killer for 10-12 hours 😂. This game was awful
Ellie was lost at this point. She was in a mental war within herself due to unresolved guilt and PTSD from witnessing Joel's death.
Even as she takes Abby down from the pillar she's not sure whether to let her go or not briefly. A flash of Joel's battered and bloody face makes her fight again.
The memory of Joel playing his guitar and the unconditional love he had for her makes her let go.. ❤
Bro told her everything she needed to know before knowing she'd spare him💀
I was expecting her to say "By the way.. I'm immune." Before popping him. Woulda been perfect.
Would've been even worse.
That would be so damn petty just telling a dead man you could have been the hope of this world just to kill him in that same breath.
@@NexusOng17 exactly why it would have fit the moment. Dude was a literal slaver who more or less crucified people.
Thats would be some really shitty writing, it would fit with the game, not gonna lie
Little does he know she's immune
Oh, my God this would have been the best scene for her to say Joel's line from the interrogation in the first one just alright I believe you then she just lights his ass up
You can almost hear her say “I believe you” like Joel
I notice ellie started bulking up building muscle as the game went on. Its real subtle
also bc of the trauma and stuff she mentions in her journals that she cant eat so you just see her get progressively skinnier you can definitely see it in her face
She killed the guy that told her where Abby was but didn’t kill Abby
Because we needed part 3
@@Ihatecg that game got cancelled 😆😆😆
@@Ihatecgthe abby dlc got cancelled mid production 😆😆😆😆😆
@@fgc1850 it didn't
@@Ihatecg it did bro
playing this during a break up was the best idea ever
I can only imagine
It’s a horrible game I’m sorry bro
Travis willingham begging Ashley Johnson for mercy. Too funny 😂❤
I fucking love her subtle little smirk when he says “before that infection takes over” ellie is so incredibly based
And then they ruined the ending 😂
how? I’m curious
@@Lee-ew6prit’s a stupid ending it makes absolutely no sense that she lets her go lmao
@@provoked-_-as soon as i realised this i stoped playing it till the end
Scratch that, the whole story in the game was ruined.
Revenge is bad mmkay
i can't believe they killed fat geralt he's the best character
Ah an Efap fan. Hello
@@Chris-yz7cs hello
Dog the Bounty Hunter really turned into a snake after the Apocalypse😂
Ellie really pulled a "I believe him" act
"Arms like mine, looks like a pig.. squeals like one too?"
Bro I loved it when he hit the Asian kid and he sacked his head against the garage since we was so damn small Lmfao shit kills me bro got over killed
😂😂😂😂
The last of us 3 commencera par Tommy et J.J qui tue Lev et Abby 😂🔥
Hey man Lev is cool.
“Blonde? Arms like mine?” Crazy lol
I don't know, maybe I'm the only one on this, but I think they went a little too far with the "Weathered cold survivor" type with Ellie in the second game. She's basically a psychopath who kills because she can.
I always thought that Ellie was a mass murderer in her previous life 😅
I agree. I didn't want to follow her on this path while playing this game, Like she gives Joel shit for what he did and tried to be better just to end up even worse by killing probably hundreds of Wolves and Scars for petty revenge.
@@Victor_Von-Doom_ogJoel only killed those who truly deserved it and Ellie in the second game would set someone on fire for looking at her wrong. I wish that tlou 2 never even came out because I’ve lost so much respect for Ellie.
@@electrifiedpizza4078 "only those who truly deserved it" the tourists he came across as a hunter and the surgeon trying to save the world: 💀
@@somethingfunny208 Surgeon wouldn’t move, bro deserved it for sure
"arms like mine" 😂
Ellie>>
Ellie's smurk when she looks at her bite it's just precious
Lol he thought she was infected
Can you blame him?
She was
i believe the point of the plot is showing a broken world with an endless cycle of death and cruelty. The way the world is portrayed in a grey picture is perfect... the set up with joel being ruthless turned back into a caring father when he meets ellie, same with abby she had love and a caring family but because of ruthless joel it made abby become ruthless ending in death. Same with ellie she was a funny loving young girl turned ruthless because of what abby did which all LEADS back to JOEL.. the links are just amazing and i will die on this hill the the last of us whole storyline is amazing.
ellie is so girlboss
:l
Bro looks like a real person damn
Ellie definitely has Joel's resolve!
No Joel would NEVER forgive someone who killed his daughter
@@axelateon1384 she spared her, but I don't think she forgave her necessarily
Ellie kills many people who just wanted to live their lives and did nothing wrong but then went on to let Abby live even though she could’ve just mindlessly killed her like she does with everyone else
aww the poor slaver who just wanted to enslave people in peace :/
@@SidPhoenix2211 Poor slave man, that was heartbreaking :(
Screw all these last of us haters. This game was phenomenal
Last of Us characters trying not to kill their hostage after they tell them exactly what they want to know challenge. (Impossible)
She had to. He couldve killed her after she turned her back to walk away.
@@amayama623 I mean, bro was injured and disarmed. I doubt it
It was cool the first time, watching ellie repeating every joel scene is just lame, same with abby and lev
@@fgc1850fr
"You can get to her before that infection takes over."
Ellie : ingoring...
Love how Ellie kills hundreds of people just to spare the one person she wanted to kill most, Amazing.
This game was cringe.
Fr
This game is goty lil bro😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cuz YOU Rdr fan😂
@@byeah4823Lil bri😂😂😂
Another episode of Ellie kills everyone BUT the person she actually want to.
“I swear” what beautiful last words
The stupidest storyline I’ve ever played.
Kill anyone who stands on her way but not kill Abby because the revenge is wrong 😂😂😂 ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!
People that say “but she didn’t kill Abby” are missing the point imo. Why would she care about these guys? She knows nothing about them and therefore she has no attachment to sparing them. More importantly, she is still on her path of darkness and revenge at the point of this guy’s death. The whole point of her forgiving Abby is letting go and leaving that path. She could only do that with Abby because of their connection to both of their fathers deaths. By Abby letting go first and Elllie letting go last, they both leave that path of destruction. And if Ellie met this guy on the road now, she most likely wouldn’t kill him because of that lesson learned from choosing to love and forgive Joel for what happened and in the process forgiving Abby as well. Damn people really miss the point of the 2nd game but when you sit with it, phenomenal game and story. Now, I do understand the appeal of going all in into having Ellie kill Abby at the end and she loses everything and herself as a consequence of that. However, I think it’s happier and better to think she chose to learn how to forgive. That scene with Joel at the end is one of my favorite scenes of the franchise. It’s tragic but also beautiful and showed that in the end, Joel knew him and Ellie would be okay. “If the Lord gave me a second chance, I’d do it all over again” always gives me goosebumps. It was not as good as the first because the first is the magnum opus of storytelling in video games imo. There was no beating it. But they had a great story and beat the first in just about every other way(gameplay, graphics, mechanics, animations, audio and OST) deserved GOT and still sticks with me as one of my favorite games of all time.
Everyone complaining she didnt kill Abby.... THAT WAS THE POINT! SHE REALIZED SHE TOOK MORE THAN SHE LOST AND THAT SHE WAS ABOUT TO DO THE SAME THING ABBY DID TO HER TO LEV! She even references this in her song The Guardian written by real life artist shawn james "kill or be killed what a way to live and die I just cant see the cycle ever ending so ill become the bringer of death the lover of life the one who guards from the dark of the night ill be the hammer of war. Justice and mercy dont live side by side so in retribution ill abide."
Bruh the gasp of air that leaves is blow off head was the perfect touch
Anyone>ellie
Bruhhh
Ellie stans will find your location and fuck you up
Such a W opinion Ellie is fucking evil by the end of it all
@@JazzyJazz-hs3imnah Abby is shit
@@JazzyJazz-hs3imas she should 🙏🙏
This game sucked
Because u play it on ez mode
Worst game IVE ever played at least...
@@neymar1231Nope, because they completely disrespected the first one
@@byeah4823LMAO HOW?? because Joel died? How is that disrespectful? Would you say that the walking dead game is bad as well? Cause they killed off Lee at the end of the first season? Brain dead take. The game is great. Y’all people just can’t handle the fact joel was killed, which he deserved because he ruined the one Chance humanity had at a cure and then lied to ellie about it. Killed innocent people and expected no sort of revenge coming his way?
@@blairebaker7211 lee’s death was handled so much better than joel’s, and after joel’s death the game honestly felt like it was about abby rather than ellie
Ellie looked at that bite mark like "Damn, that's crazy..." 😂
"before that infection takes over" well.. he definitely wasn't a firefly
You had her at "Arms like mine"
“I’m immune assh*le” *shots fired*
The fact that this is Travis and Ashley doing this scene together is so funny😅
“I believe you, by my Gun doesn’t”
*BANG BANG*
I like the part where the guy almost gets bit by the Clicker and Ellie’s on the ground laughing at him.
Joel smiling down on her saying “that’s my girl”
Wow the poor Rattler thought she was gonna turn 😂
That smirk when she sees that she's bit- OOHH!!!
He didn’t even know she’s Immune she was smiling like what infection bro I’m good😂
How can she kill a helpless old man, but not her father figure's killer
Every other voice actor: Uses different tones and accents to create unique voices
Travis Willingham: "You see, I have this technique called Using My Voice-"
I love Travis btw, it's just always funny to hear his iconic voice in every game he's in-
Dude was so smart to leverage info to survive and then just gave it all away while on gunpoint lmao
I didn't think she would give mercy, but she did.
"... before you turn from that bite"
"Fun fact..."
Ellie is a true badass
"Youll just come after me" -joel
Fun fact: the gasp you hear after he’s shot is the sound you make when your brain is trying to save you before you die
Ellie, two shots to the head, three round burst to the chest. LOL
That sounded like the hitman suppressed pistol
Yes, it is Mrs. Elie
Elli: kills everyone, even innocent people. :/
Also Elli: forgiving Abby :)
“Arms like mine” just everyone knows how jacked she is
Bruh every game the charcters kills the guy who helped them
he's not scared because he's immune haha