No investor or brand is going to be interested in them. They are a liability. They have made bad choices and unfortunately consequences sometimes hurt.
Well only if the company doesn’t like money. The girls fan base isn’t wavering. They won a bunch of top award this year and remain super popular. In fact this situation has brought them more fans. Companies just want to make money! If the fan base is their then there will be endorsements
@@jameshii3807 You know the awards mean nothing right? The votes are preposterous. I saw 1 commenter say they had 500 emails for voting. And bunnies had to collab with another fandom to try to win one of them, which they did not. I’m not sure what you are looking at or watching but brand recognition has dropped tremendously in the past few months. Koreans really turned against them after the National Assembly debacle. Have you per chance watched the Korean attny’s on channels? It’s not bad it’s dismal. No shade to you.
Will take years and slot money.the thing is there not trustable. Advertisers stocks money agents All that Will not trust these girls do not flake out on them so this could be very uphill battle for them even become popular again.
So what your saying is the bullying should continue so future artists know that even if they’re mistreated they should just accept it! WOW that’s terrible
@ no they should settle in close door or let the court decide with proof and facts..not in front of assembly/ media or being disrespectful to their boss or other artists.its bad business so investors don’t want to deal with this kind of people .. who will be accused next??the driver ?stylist?writer?the doorman?Dior executive for not providing a large room?or MAMA producers bc the stage was slippery?in that case the whole industry should shut down.its sad but the reality is NJ has been blacklisted.
Oh my god these girls were given everything penthouse apartments brand new clothes Money And they do not act like they've ever been bullied they look like to the bully I've been bullied him alive right now people have been bullied in life they do not look like new jeans Abuse is shown When that little That little girl was laughing at the national assembly like it was a joke
It's funny because they said that they have been "bullied & mistreated" since debut. If it was indeed true, how come MAMA ROACH didn't do anything about it since she was their CEO! By trying to paint ADOR as the villain, they are inadvertently also implicating their so called "mother."
Who want to work with someone that can hold a press conference to terminate contract like cancelling a subscription 👀. This group carries too much drama with them, especially Mhj. Many companies would have to reconsider before working with them due to their current images
They have not ended their contract until a court says it is or Ador agrees to the termination. So don't spread false news. No one can just say it is over without agreement.
@@btsv2455 yes because they've been told to go back to Ador as they are not released from their contract and are engaging in contract tampering, which has pretty harsh penalties according to Korean lawyers. No I don't live under a rock but are you a 12 year old that you do not understand how legal contracts work?
@@lizbailey7748 how funny the kids knows what a contract is?. Lol. Are you sure you do, because how s and db y'all the Bunnies are ,clearly it doesn't seems like it. You keep arguing that the contract is terminated while it still valid so db of y'all. Sure ,sure what ever kid.
@@lizbailey7748 how do you think it works if the Stp Kids thinks it just some pieces of paper to dispose when they feel like it?. Please enlightened me. 😑
@@lizbailey7748 so you do admit the contract is still valid, while the entitle Brts doesn't?. Lol isn't this new, the Bunnies admit the contract is still valid.
Contracts are two-way. From what I can see, Ador doesn't seem to be a safe and creative environment and in fact, quite hostile to their one and only group. I wouldn't want to be there. NJ seems to have kept their end of the bargain, creating very distinct music and making Ador/Hybe a lot of money. On top of that, Ador and people who support them want NJ to forever have a master/peon relationship? Equal respect seems fair, but I suppose, to a lot of people that's laughable. I support NJ, from an American's pov. It's just one pov.
From my pov Ador CEO had tried hard to connect with and accommodate the girls and provide a good schedule for their progress, but they only want MHJ. Strangely when given the opportunity to produce for them she said no, even though in her words they are talentless, fat, lazy and nothing without her. Go figure, they never gave anyone else a chance because they bought into MHJ narrative. So basically she created the music not them. Equal respect is good but they are a very new group who needs to earn that, and the way they treat people they never will.
@@lizbailey7748 I think you are very welcome to your conclusions. But I believe there is a a lot of he said she said, and we really don't know for sure. If you sense the girls don't treat people well, you have more knowledge about them than me. I do agree MHJ is a huge contributor to NJ's success (look at what she arranged in Japan in the middle of the nonsense -- brilliant marketing to work with Yoasobi (sp?) and such, filling domes(!) and having her girls sing nostalgic Japanese songs to nail both Japanese and Koreans' hearts, somehow feeling the zeitgeist to maximize her girls' value. No wonder they want to work with MHJ only and think of the new CEO as Hybe's puppet. One thing (among many I can cite as well), but one anecdote about the fat man persistently ignoring Hani... Ah, even in a paternalistic society (or, especially in one) where elders are held in great regard and younger folk must give the elders great respect, a powerful male upper manager (ultimate CEO in this case) totally ignoring you connotes a strong, strong message. Perhaps that message was really aimed at MHJ but I can't blame the girls for not wanting to work for him, no way in -hell- heck. But yes, let's see how it plays out. There's a term called economic populism, a tendency for individuals to support policies that appear to favor "free enterprise" or "hard work" but actually benefit large corporations, and I believe Koreans are particularly susceptible to that given how powerful the chaebols and other corporations are. (Not saying you are one of them, or that you are Korean even).
@@tripicus of course we are all welcome to our own opinions. No I am not Korean, I am Australian which is why I took an initial interest in NJ and Stray Kidz. The more I have read of this situation and watched their broadcasts and interviews the more I feel these girls are following a strategy from MHJ. I believe most if not all incidents they have mentioned are either totally fabricated or grossly exaggerated. I base this on the lack of concrete evidence they have provided and their behaviour, which I judge based on over 40 years of teaching girls their age. Of course I may be totally wrong but I feel they have been planning this behaviour from the very start and it wasn't based in a need to escape Ador/Hybe but in the desire to damage them as much as possible - for many possible reasons. Even their current behaviour seems designed to either make Ador give up and let them leave because they are so toxic, or reduce the value of the company so that the penalties they would pay are much less. We may never know the whole truth and I think only the courts will decide. We will have to wait and see. You seem to reflect their lack of respect in calling BSH "the fat man", very disappointing. I have also read reports that yes the Japanese strategy was good in terms of content but the Tokyo Dome did not sell out and they lost money on that tour. Perhaps the translations I read were incorrect but most were confirmed by a Korean friend.
@@lizbailey7748 I appreciate your pov. I don't know the details of what's going on, just what I learn from youtube. I guess everything will play out. Some of the girls have reached their twenties but they started as teens and MHJ molded them and they found success. I do think you were somewhat contradictory when you said NJ was basically MHJ leading them well, and then describe their recent Japan experience as quite bad. It seemed pretty astute but I admit she is not that easy to like, even to me, especially in Korea where strong, opinionated women are frowned upon. And "fat man" was unnecessarily pejorative, which makes my other words have less weight.
Whos going to manage them ?? While they are still under contractual obligation to adore, they can't work with anybody else !! unless they can prove breach of trust or adore, realises them, from their contract. They can say goodbye to their brand deals aswell beacuse the contracts are with adore not nj members !!
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The brands made the contracts and partnerships with ADOR, not NewJean members themselves.
These girls blacklisted themselves.
Let’s not give these girls attention if they even manage to re debut because I’m done
No investor or brand is going to be interested in them. They are a liability. They have made bad choices and unfortunately consequences sometimes hurt.
Well only if the company doesn’t like money. The girls fan base isn’t wavering. They won a bunch of top award this year and remain super popular. In fact this situation has brought them more fans. Companies just want to make money! If the fan base is their then there will be endorsements
@@jameshii3807 You know the awards mean nothing right? The votes are preposterous. I saw 1 commenter say they had 500 emails for voting. And bunnies had to collab with another fandom to try to win one of them, which they did not. I’m not sure what you are looking at or watching but brand recognition has dropped tremendously in the past few months. Koreans really turned against them after the National Assembly debacle. Have you per chance watched the Korean attny’s on channels? It’s not bad it’s dismal. No shade to you.
@g2231-v2p ahh yes, because you represent every investor and brand outlet globally and are speaking on their behalves
@@jameshii3807 have you seen the December brand rankings, NJ not in top 30. I think they've signed their death warrant for their future.
They think they’re going to keep all the luxury brand partnerships.
They can get them when they switch to their new group name. They are super popular among fans, companies will make a lot of money
@ they proved that they can’t be trusted. Contracts mean nothing to them.
Will take years and slot money.the thing is there not trustable. Advertisers stocks money agents All that Will not trust these girls do not flake out on them so this could be very uphill battle for them even become popular again.
They cant ador will sue@jameshii3807
I think China and Vietnam would want them. That’s why they are very arrogant. They could probably get more money, that’s why.
MHJ and NJ have to be blacklisted by the industry to set the example to anyone who wants to run away from their contract or steal their company
So what your saying is the bullying should continue so future artists know that even if they’re mistreated they should just accept it! WOW that’s terrible
@@jameshii3807 bullying ?! mistreated ?! where is your proof ???
@ no they should settle in close door or let the court decide with proof and facts..not in front of assembly/ media or being disrespectful to their boss or other artists.its bad business so investors don’t want to deal with this kind of people .. who will be accused next??the driver ?stylist?writer?the doorman?Dior executive for not providing a large room?or MAMA producers bc the stage was slippery?in that case the whole industry should shut down.its sad but the reality is NJ has been blacklisted.
Oh my god these girls were given everything penthouse apartments brand new clothes Money And they do not act like they've ever been bullied they look like to the bully I've been bullied him alive right now people have been bullied in life they do not look like new jeans Abuse is shown When that little That little girl was laughing at the national assembly like it was a joke
It's funny because they said that they have been "bullied & mistreated" since debut. If it was indeed true, how come MAMA ROACH didn't do anything about it since she was their CEO!
By trying to paint ADOR as the villain, they are inadvertently also implicating their so called "mother."
Who want to work with someone that can hold a press conference to terminate contract like cancelling a subscription 👀. This group carries too much drama with them, especially Mhj. Many companies would have to reconsider before working with them due to their current images
And they hurt a lot of artists and scandalous
They have not ended their contract until a court says it is or Ador agrees to the termination. So don't spread false news. No one can just say it is over without agreement.
It not false new. You living under a rock or something?. Go and do some research. the girls are getting blacklisted from the kpop industry. Lol
@@btsv2455 yes because they've been told to go back to Ador as they are not released from their contract and are engaging in contract tampering, which has pretty harsh penalties according to Korean lawyers. No I don't live under a rock but are you a 12 year old that you do not understand how legal contracts work?
@@lizbailey7748 how funny the kids knows what a contract is?. Lol. Are you sure you do, because how s and db y'all the Bunnies are ,clearly it doesn't seems like it. You keep arguing that the contract is terminated while it still valid so db of y'all. Sure ,sure what ever kid.
@@lizbailey7748 how do you think it works if the Stp Kids thinks it just some pieces of paper to dispose when they feel like it?. Please enlightened me. 😑
@@lizbailey7748 so you do admit the contract is still valid, while the entitle Brts doesn't?. Lol isn't this new, the Bunnies admit the contract is still valid.
Contracts are two-way. From what I can see, Ador doesn't seem to be a safe and creative environment and in fact, quite hostile to their one and only group. I wouldn't want to be there. NJ seems to have kept their end of the bargain, creating very distinct music and making Ador/Hybe a lot of money. On top of that, Ador and people who support them want NJ to forever have a master/peon relationship? Equal respect seems fair, but I suppose, to a lot of people that's laughable. I support NJ, from an American's pov. It's just one pov.
From my pov Ador CEO had tried hard to connect with and accommodate the girls and provide a good schedule for their progress, but they only want MHJ. Strangely when given the opportunity to produce for them she said no, even though in her words they are talentless, fat, lazy and nothing without her. Go figure, they never gave anyone else a chance because they bought into MHJ narrative. So basically she created the music not them. Equal respect is good but they are a very new group who needs to earn that, and the way they treat people they never will.
@@lizbailey7748 I think you are very welcome to your conclusions. But I believe there is a a lot of he said she said, and we really don't know for sure. If you sense the girls don't treat people well, you have more knowledge about them than me. I do agree MHJ is a huge contributor to NJ's success (look at what she arranged in Japan in the middle of the nonsense -- brilliant marketing to work with Yoasobi (sp?) and such, filling domes(!) and having her girls sing nostalgic Japanese songs to nail both Japanese and Koreans' hearts, somehow feeling the zeitgeist to maximize her girls' value. No wonder they want to work with MHJ only and think of the new CEO as Hybe's puppet. One thing (among many I can cite as well), but one anecdote about the fat man persistently ignoring Hani... Ah, even in a paternalistic society (or, especially in one) where elders are held in great regard and younger folk must give the elders great respect, a powerful male upper manager (ultimate CEO in this case) totally ignoring you connotes a strong, strong message. Perhaps that message was really aimed at MHJ but I can't blame the girls for not wanting to work for him, no way in -hell- heck. But yes, let's see how it plays out. There's a term called economic populism, a tendency for individuals to support policies that appear to favor "free enterprise" or "hard work" but actually benefit large corporations, and I believe Koreans are particularly susceptible to that given how powerful the chaebols and other corporations are. (Not saying you are one of them, or that you are Korean even).
@@tripicus of course we are all welcome to our own opinions. No I am not Korean, I am Australian which is why I took an initial interest in NJ and Stray Kidz. The more I have read of this situation and watched their broadcasts and interviews the more I feel these girls are following a strategy from MHJ. I believe most if not all incidents they have mentioned are either totally fabricated or grossly exaggerated. I base this on the lack of concrete evidence they have provided and their behaviour, which I judge based on over 40 years of teaching girls their age. Of course I may be totally wrong but I feel they have been planning this behaviour from the very start and it wasn't based in a need to escape Ador/Hybe but in the desire to damage them as much as possible - for many possible reasons. Even their current behaviour seems designed to either make Ador give up and let them leave because they are so toxic, or reduce the value of the company so that the penalties they would pay are much less. We may never know the whole truth and I think only the courts will decide. We will have to wait and see. You seem to reflect their lack of respect in calling BSH "the fat man", very disappointing. I have also read reports that yes the Japanese strategy was good in terms of content but the Tokyo Dome did not sell out and they lost money on that tour. Perhaps the translations I read were incorrect but most were confirmed by a Korean friend.
@@lizbailey7748well said. 👍
@@lizbailey7748 I appreciate your pov. I don't know the details of what's going on, just what I learn from youtube. I guess everything will play out. Some of the girls have reached their twenties but they started as teens and MHJ molded them and they found success. I do think you were somewhat contradictory when you said NJ was basically MHJ leading them well, and then describe their recent Japan experience as quite bad. It seemed pretty astute but I admit she is not that easy to like, even to me, especially in Korea where strong, opinionated women are frowned upon. And "fat man" was unnecessarily pejorative, which makes my other words have less weight.
I support the girls. They can get new things as their new group under new management
Who's gonna manage them They're blacklisted If you owned a company would you hire them
@@cathydimaria6454exactly. The Bunnies will hire them for sure 😂
Whos going to manage them ?? While they are still under contractual obligation to adore, they can't work with anybody else !! unless they can prove breach of trust or adore, realises them, from their contract. They can say goodbye to their brand deals aswell beacuse the contracts are with adore not nj members !!