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"Serenity" Firefly Movie REACTION!!
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2018
- Eric Shane Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss Serenity the 2005 Firefly Movie.
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This movie is so perfect and yet so incomplete because of how detailed Joss Whedon's universe was. DAMN YOU FOX. DAMN YOU!
Quickest recap of the movie I've ever seen...
Yeah, I would have loved to have seen what this series would have been if Fox didn't screw it up and it was able to go for multiple seasons.
Read the novels! They're pretty good!
Chiwetel Ejiofor nails the "cool but terrifying" villain.
His demeanor and voice are so gentle, it adds so much to the horror by contrast
Wash's death increases the tension but it's main purpose in my view is in the next scene when everybody is getting wounded you think as the audience that anybody can die because they just killed Wash.
In the cinema I screamed "Simon!" when Simon got shot, people stared at me and I didn't even care.
That was Josh's purpose for killing Wash off. Said so in the commentary. He had to make it feel as if this was a last stand and everyone could end up dead.
It was hinting the Blakes7 ending. They knew the audience and gave then the break..
@@Lowlightt Agreed, but the other big reason they did that was for Zoë's character in the Last Stand scene.
The reason they did it was so there would be no question that this was the end of firefly.
"Mal's a very Han Solo-y kind of guy."
Actually Nathan Fillion mentions in an interview how much he liked Harrison Ford's acting, particularly in his willingness to take a punch for fight scenes. So he was very deliberate - in Serenity especially - for the full weight of fights to hit him. That's why you see him fully slamming his face onto the floor in his fight with the operative.
Gotta respect the willingness to take on some pain for a good show.
"Goin' on a year now, I ain't had nothing twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries!"
"Oh, GOD, Kaylee! I can't know that!"
"I could stand to hear a little more."
"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" Maybe the most impactful death scene of any character I know, both in how meaningful it was, and how unexpected. I legit had to pause the movie and rewind when I realized what had happened, because I felt almost in shock, I couldn't process the following scenes. God this series was so good.
I attended a Firefly panel at MegaCon a few years ago. Nathan Fillion, Summer Glau, Adam Baldwin, and Alan Tudyk were on the panel. Alan made a comment about the "leaf on the wind" line. He said "You know what's significant about a leaf drifting on the wind? It's already dead."
bigfatcarp93 people don’t like seeing their favorite characters die, so I’m not surprised people call it unnecessary. But him dying makes it so that when Simon gets shot later it really makes you worry if he’ll make it.
I hate how he died I understand why but I still hate it.
Joss loves the sudden unexpected death of a major character. He tries it in virtually every production he's a part of but I don't think any have been as impactful or well done as this one. Maybe because once you fall for one you're expecting it every single time, that's the trouble with a signature trope but in this instance it works perfectly. Everything changes, a sense of shock overcomes the audience mirroring the shock felt by the characters and suddenly the stakes are as real as they can get. You stop hoping for that standard Hollywood happy ending and just start hoping for survivors.
Second time I saw the movie in cinema I genuinely got shaky during the battle/crash leading to it
Missed showing one of the greatest villain lines.
"I'm a monster. What I do is evil, I have no illusions about that. But it must be done."
Like Mordo
I love that he's made peace that the sin-free world is a world he can't live in; he's a character just so focused on executing his plan for his greater good.
To me that’s the moment that makes him a truly terrifying villain. He’s a true believer. They’re the hardest ones to stop.
R.I.P. Ron Glass
Aw, damn, I didn't know Ron Glass had died. Another great, underappreciated actor lost. Very sad to hear. RIP, Shepherd.
Firefly...the best cast on the shortest show. Great reaction. I'm sorry it's over.
I saw "Serenity" when it premiered, and when Wash died, I spent about 3 minutes not being able to process what had just happened. I think the rest of the theater was the same, because it was very, very quiet for a while.
I saw the movie first and I fell in love with the characters and their chemistry, so I went and watched the series. And had that bittersweet feeling knowing there was no more. One of my all-time favorites.
Actor Ron Glass (Shepard Book) was on his deathbed (well the doctors didn't give him long even though he did defy expectations and live for a few more years past when they thought he would) when the film was in development. Which is why in his scenes he didn't really move around much. It was mostly just him standing and doing two-shots and not interacting with many other characters at the time. They wrote it to give the actor an exit, knowing if the movie did get them a second season they would be moving on without the Book character. Glass just couldn't do 14hr work days. The Wash death was more about just doing something to snap the audience into knowing that there were stakes in the film.. That it wasn't just side characters that were being written out. In my theater when Wash died the theater was dead silent aside from an audible gasp from the back. Whedon did such a great job in such a short time building a world that people connected with.
Fans of Josh Whedons work have learned the hard way that he will use his great character development to really fuck you up down the line by having horrible things happen to people you care about. I really hate and love Josh for that.
Fred T-T
If he was on his deathbed at the time, he definitely recovered. He just died a couple years ago and was still working/acting during/after Serenity for another 11 years up until his death.
Yes, RIP Joyce Summers :-(
"Mommy?"
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He played the doctor who brought Coulson back on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
The phrase used to put River to sleep is a an old Russian saying, literally "that is for chickens to laugh at", or more figuratively: "this is ridiculous".
That stare from Calvin at 8:24... goddamn
Calvin certainly understands the power of a knowing glance at the camera. It's one of those little details that I think makes Blind Wave a superior reaction channel.
He's probably having Red Wedding flashbacks (which is how I discovered this channel in the first place).
and @8:32 you can pinpoint the exact moment Eric's heart rips in half
I loved that the comics made Zoe have a bit of a happy ending by making her pregnant with Wash’s baby. That made me happy.
> Adam Baldwin is related to the Baldwin brothers. The connection goes back to the 1600s. So they're distant cousins. See Adam Baldwin IMDB bio.
> I love all the references of Firefly and Buffy in the TV series Castle. My favorite is a Halloween episode in which Nathan comes out dressed in his Firefly outfit. His daughter asks him what's supposed to be and he tells her, "I'm a Space Cowboy" and she replies, "That's so five years ago."
I loved the way Wash's death played out because the rapidness with which Zoe and the audience had to move on from such a beloved character's death made me feel like I was actually there. Like I had to internalize my grief (in the same way that Zoe had to) until there was time to experience it safely. I was shocked in the moment, but had to quickly move on from that shock to properly watch the rest of the movie, and when the funeral rolled around and I had the time to think about what had happened, all that suppressed emotion came back and I full on sobbed for Wash
"I am a leaf on the wind"
A leaf on the wind has fallen from its tree, and is already dead. It may not be what Joss intended, but when I head this interpretation it made that line so much more poignant for me.
Being part of the Bluegrass Browncoats (firefly fan club) and getting signatures to submit to get the movie made was so exhausting and yet was such a releif when the green light was lit.
Your fan club are Big Damn Heroes to all the Firefly fans who wanted more
On Reavers: the aggression response is amped up a thousandfold in them, which does not necessarily preclude thought, piloting skills, tactics, et cetera.
Little by little Calvin is going back to the way he looked when blindwave first started.
31:53 "My favorite episode has probably always been Out of Gas." I caught myself cheering YES! Bushwhacked was my favorite for many years for different reasons, and still holds a special place in my heart, but as time wears on I find myself putting Out of Gas in the DVD player more than the other episodes. It feels like the entire series encapsulated in one episode. It's the most feel good episode for me. It's the one with "The Button" in it. That episode is so filled with hope and good vibes even tho it's also pretty dark and suspenseful. Good choice, Aaron!
A kid in the theater when River closed the door leaving her with nothing but reavers, "Poor reavers."
Guys seriously, watch the Expanse, it is the best Mass Effect tv show ever.
YES! It's the perfect series for them.
Not to mention amos is basically a remix of the jane character, the morally gray big guy who just follows the captain
The Book version of him is, The show is much less obedient!
I keep asking them too! lol
OR Dark Matter , for that ,ahem, matter.. sort of a cross between Firefly and The Andromeda sorta.. but grittier.. with a very definite "jayne" character :)
If you are looking for something short, you should do Dollhouse. It's another Whedon show. Unfortunately, it only ran for two seasons, getting cancelled prematurely, too. But it has some REALLY cool concepts in it - as well as a lot of familiar Whedon contributors: Summer Glau, Alan Tudyk, Eliza Dushku, Felicia Day, etc.
Yeah, well worth the time. It was inconsistent at times (with a few cringe moments tossed in) but that's easy to overlook given the brilliant concept with a spectacular cast. Enver Gjokaj's casting was a stroke of genius. Kranz, too. There really wasn't a weak link on that front. I often think it failed because the concept is a little uncomfortable. What are the moral ramifications of giving up your autonomy willingly if you don't have any way of knowing what kind of abuse you'll be subjected to? How can that be legal? What societal constructs could possibly protect someone who is essentially stripped of the desire/ability to protect him/herself? It may have required more effort than most viewers care to invest.
I haven't read Shepard Book's comic yet either, but I had always pictured him as a past operative like the one in the movie Serenity. Or something similar where he was allowed to keep an Alliance identity/status. Good reaction guys and thank you!
I agree. I read the comic, but him being operative is more believeable. He just did change his fate from one to another!
Just an FYI for everyone, there is a new Firefly comic series starting in November and it is under the creative direction of Joss Whedon. The first arch will be back stories going deeper into each characters past previous to the tv series. Until we can convince Disney to give the show a second chance, this will probably be the closest we all get to new Firefly.
You need to watch the extras on the DVD(s) including the commentary with Whedon and the cast. The extras answer a lot of questions. Yes, they saved and faithfully resurrected the original sets. The ship/set was actually built in two parts - two 190 feet long interconnected sets - one the lower half and one the upper half. They did that at the very beginning of the series so they could capture the continuity of moving through the ship - and yes they did long handheld shots in the series too. The ship was actually conceived as 'the tenth character.' If you don't have the DVDs, the extras are pretty much all on you tube and are worth hunting up.
"When your enemy goes to ground, leave no ground to go to" my favorite line in this movie
"All he had to do was say the G***amn words!"
-Bucky/Winter Soldier
You guys should react to more Whedon shows, Dollhouse, Buffy, Angel. There are so many actors Joss uses in multiple tv shows and it's so cool seeing them all take on completely different roles.
Many directors have a "stable" of actors they like to work with. Just look at Tim Burton and Quentin Tarantino as well.
Angel is one of my FAVORITE shows of all time
I saw the movie before I saw the series. Went back and watched the series and to this day I think its still my favorite TV show ever. At worst, top 2 or 3. Also, the operative is probably my favorite movie villain.
I think that if the series hadn’t been cancelled we would have been the introduced to another member of the program. Also I think Mad Men would have been different because Saffron would have become a permanent cast member.
I saw the movie first while it was in theatres, then I saw the show a few years later. I've always loved the movie and felt like it was great as a standalone.
HAD to go on to Patreon for the full length. THANK YOU for doing this reaction, being yourselves, and this discussion! So much fun to watch!
Would have preferred a part 1 and a part 2 but this is still good, has there been a vote on what to watch next
EXPANSE! EXPANSE! EXPANSE! EXPANSE! EXPANSE! EXPANSE! EXPANSE! it's time guys!! I can't believe you haven't watched it yet!!
The CCP Virus is putting things into perspective in a 1930's way. Do I spend money on a streaming video service or on food/shelter/clothing?
Farscape could be a great option!
agreed and it lasted long enough to give material for quite a while :)
Oh, God! I loved that show.
Scorpy4life
That would be great follow up to #FireBi, it was also cancelled the same yr.
It takes most first season to find it’s groove and get good, but when it’s good, it’s GoT amazing.
Farscape is certainly good... but had they not watch it before? If they are doing older series, I would suggest Babylon 5 as well, if they are unfamiliar. It is one of the true classic with a long series spanning story-arc.
In case if someone does not know Russian. Simon said "eto kuram na smex". It means "chickens gonna laugh!".
And yeah "watch Chuck!" was on point!
Excellent reaction guys. Always love your discussions. I could see Calvin side-eyeing the camera during the "leaf on the wind" bit. And poor Aaron jumped. :( That is still one of the toughest death scenes. I do think you guys would love The Expanse. It's got mystery, political intrigue and plenty of action. It's also a short-ish series right now. BTW, since Eric wanted more of the Blue Hand guys, there is a comic series Serenity: Those Left Behind that tells the events between the series and the movie. Thanks for being one of my fave channels. You guys are awesome!
Should react to Con Man. It's basically a comedy about an actor from a show like Firefly, with some Firefly cast, doing the convention circuit.
Greatest television series ever made.
I didn't watch the series when it first aired, but when I watched the movie I had to go out and find it. I remember exactly when it was that I knew I loved this movie and it was dialog between Mal and Inara. "This isn't the war Mal." "You're telling me this because you think I don't know?" "I just want to know who I am dealing with. I've seen too many versions to be sure." "If I start fighting a war, I guarantee you're gonna see something new." After that line I was hooked.
"I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar." Still not over this.
Blue hands was only ONE of the contractors that was sent after River, not the authority that controlled her. This is handled in the comics too.
There are 4 comics and they can be summarised as
-The reason Book left Serenity (for punching Mal)
-The back history of Book
-The Back History of Zoe
-Funeral/back history of Wash
at the end when simon gets shot & starts his dialog; from shane to aaron it looks like they're trying so hard not to cry.
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar" I saw you looking this way Calvin!
I think it's more likely they based the pax on floride. It actually does have an effect on people but there isn't enough added to the water to make a big difference.
8:24 We see you Calvin
Yes, I was mostly watching Eric's reaction but I caught that too.
my BOOK theory is he was once a parliamentary agent.
Well you can still watch the video "Firefly References on Castle" ;)
Nathan Fillion can do no wrong.
He could do plenty wrong.............
..........But he could totally get away with it..!!
I adore this film! Watched it before I even knew there was a series!!
I read the *Shepherd Book* comic. I recommend leaving it all a mystery. Anything you could speculate on is going to be far better then what is presented. As with Boba Fett, and many other iconic characters, it is always best to leave it a mystery.
I agree! It is the only Firefly comic, where my own imagination was and still is much better!
The BBC series Blake's 7 (1978-1981) is a lot like I imagine the 'verse would be after the events of the film. Not as good as Joss would have written it, but still pretty good for the time it was made.
I thought Wash's death was so effective because it was so quick, sometimes in life and especially in battle deaths can happen so quickly. Ron Glass passed in late 2016 so less than two years ago, from respiratory failure. RIP.
It was revealed in later interviews that Inara was terminally ill which is why she decided to travel. In the episode where they ask how her Drs visit went and she says same as last year, it was implying that she was still dying. Also, the needle she gets out when the reavers were close was later explained to be a kind of rape punishment drug that would kill anyone who had sex with her.
aside from River Tam pwning in combat, and the falling on your sword scene (and any other good/cool scenes I'm forgeting, lol), my favorite scene was:
(sorry for not knowing their names that well)
the mercenary guy has his knee shattered from the harpoon shot through it
and the group of them just escaped with their lives from the reavers
Doctor guy to River Tam: "Are you alright?"
River Tam: "I think I swallowed a bug"
the mercenary guy: "hey, what about me, doc?"
This was one of the few times in my life where I laughed so hard that I nearly died... from River Tam's bug swallowing line, lol
You guys should watch a series called Farscape. It came out around the same time as Firefly and has a very similar feel to it. It would be a good time.
The comic is called "A Shepherd's Tale" and is written by Whedon's brother. It's phenomenal and doesn't exactly jump around in time. It moves backwards from his death, each scene being a key decision that shaped his life that would lead to the next.
I remember seeing the movie "first", and the whole while thinking, "Why does this look so familiar?" I didn't realize I had seen the pilot and then nothing else. The show was horribly marketed. Now I'm one of the inconsolable fans. Still at least they didn't have a chance to ruin the series. You never know what might have happened. Some of the things Joss says he was tossing around in the commentary could have been pretty bad/upsetting.
They might have hired D&D, and God only knows what would've happened. Somehow Mal would've taken up tapdancing, Inara would be Amish, and Jayne would enroll in finishing school.
Guys, you've gotta do a reaction to the bloopers for this movie, they are hilarious.
Blake's 7!
The Serenity set was two pices, an upper section and a lower section, there's a hidden cut when they go down the stairs to the guest quarters/living space/medbay. The set WAS mostly disassembled after the show and they had to rebuild it but they did have the two-part complete set for the show as well. I believe they do the same two-shot-with-hidden-cut in the very first episode (the original pilot)
This movie is something truly special, it is pretty much the best example of what can be done when you have a truly passionate fanbase. Just think about what this movie truly is. You have a show that really did not even get a full first season, it was aired in the wrong order and cancelled early. Then they somehow managed to convince a movie studio to pick up a full fledged movie on the big screen. While the movie does not tie up all the lose ends of the show, no way it could with how short the show was. But I think they did a truly amazing job and I really love the movie. And those comics they made are really good.
Boom! Comics has recently bought Firefly from Dark Horse and are actively expanding on the story. I highly recommend reading them if you enjoyed the Firefly series.
"how do reavers clean their spears?" "they put them through the wash", too soon?
In the comic Aaron was referencing, Book had infiltrated the Alliance military for the Browncoats
but he never was discovered. he simply retired after a massacre. he was a high ranking alliance official (general or something similar) and the independance could get all information he saw due to his recording eye mentioned in the vid. so they made a big ambush and many alliance people died. he retired after this and the alliance never knew what happened. they simply assumed he retired because he felt guilty about sending his men into their deaths, not that he was a big part of the trap himself.
It’s been a great journey through all of Firefly with you. Sad it’s over, and so glad you reacted to the movie!!
Sarah Conner Chronicles! Loved that show it had that guy from 90210. Serenity was brilliant will miss this all over again. Hopefully they'll do a reunion movie. Thanks lads much appreciated.
Both Wash and Book had other obligations so they wouldn't have been able to do future Firefly movies. That's why they killed them off. They were hoping to do a couple more movies after this one, but it didn't do well enough at the box office. Alan Tudyk has a series on Peacock called Resident Alien. I just finished watching the second season. You might like to check that out.
You guys should check out Jeremy Jahns review of Firefly and Serenity
Yeah... I need to watch this full movie again. Man, I miss seeing the Firefly cast together
Target the Reavers. Target the Reavers! Target every ship - SOMEBODY FIRE!
Even a stormtrooper could have hit a Reaver in that swarm!
I'm with you Shane! More than Firefly, TSCC hurts. I think it's because we at least got Serenity. That Sarah Connor Chronicles cliffhanger....ugh. One of my most memorable scenes from TV shows ever is the scene in TSCC is where the kid is reading The Wizard of Oz and they play his dialog over the scenes of John and Derek kill that one Terminator.
8:36. Whedon.
*Shakes fist*
WHEEEEDOOOOON!
And now, the "Cowboy Bebop" syndrome. (Zoidberg: I want more [Sardines]! Fry: There aren't any more. Zoidberg: MORE!)
The day this video was posted I had the chance to see Jewel Staite at a fan expo.
Holy shit, it’s been a long time since I’ve heard of The Cape. Wish it had kept going.
I believe Joss's brother wrote or is part of the Serenity comic books that flush out what could be considered the remaining story
shepard brook was a big time allience dude but he was secretly working for brown coats and when they lost the war he retiered and became shepard
This movies is FANTASTIC. It’s like the show but instead of being gold it’s platinum. That space battle was amazing
Fringe!!! I'd love to watch Eric and Calvin watch that show. Great cast, great story, it went sideways towards the end, but what a journey!
Start reading the comics, Eric. They're official.
Just finished rewatching Firefly alongside your reactions. It was such a fun experience. And I'm also all disappointed again. But overall I'm glad to have relived it. Eric had some great reactions, Calvin had some really good .. sort of sad glances at the camera. Loved the discussion.
For the scene after when book dies then Mal is taunted by the Operative is followed by one of the funniest outtakes in history when Nathan goes off script.
Calvin's knowing glare at 8:22 😁
How great you're watching this. . . just rewatched it myself a few days ago when I saw it was on Netflix. Such good stuff.
Still need you to watch the bloopers for this movie.....baby jesus.
The fact that Mal calls Simon and River "guests" on his boat rather than crew (in order to kickstart the plot) proves this takes place in an alternate universe (so Wash is still alive). You can't change my mind.
Actually, the Steady Cam One Take was actually two takes, there's a cut when the camera follows Mal while Simon is following him, then pans back to Simon and the cut is right there. They just didn't have a big enough set.
There was also the 10th anniversary sit down you guys should react to. It took place right before the 10th Anniversary SD Comic Con panel with most of the cast talks about some of the secrets and plots that was never shot.
Idk man, they changed the status quo of the characters' relationships in this. It's like they picked up from where the show left storywise, but with the development the characters had in the half of the season, not the ending. It's just weird to see Mal not caring so much about Simon and River in the beginning of the movie after we know what happened in Arial. I kinda get why this decision was made, but it just don't feel right to me honestly
I saw a website that had synopses of potential story lines for future seasons of Firefly. One plot was SO dark, I couldn't see it ever airing on TV at the time. The story had (I believe) Inara taking a drug that, among other side affects, could kill anyone she'd have sex with . Later on in that episode (or more likely as a continuing plot line later on in the season), she would be kidnapped by a small group of Reavers. When Mal and the crew come up with a plan to save her, they break onto the Reaver ship....only to find all the Reavers dead :(
Idk if they used that for the comics, or if I'm misstating some of the finer points, but it was a long time ago when I saw it.
Great reactions, guys! I enjoyed the ride :)
8:30 Calvin and Aaron both know exactly what is gonna happen next
The science ship where they find the recording on Miranda is marked C-57D, a reference to the starship in "Forbidden Planet".
I remember I picked this movie on a whim in Vegas at my brother/father's house. He knew Firefly but he did not know about this. At Wash's moment, I've never seen eyes go wider.
Hi, I just recently found your channel, and have been binge-watching. I've seen several RUclips channels now react to Firefly, and that's great, I love Firefly, everyone loves Firefly. But I have a suggestion for a show that I have never seen anyone react to on RUclips.
It shares some similarities with Firefly: they were both canceled stupidly by Fox after one season, and they are both scifi-westerns. The show is called The Adventures of Brisco County Jr, starring Bruce Campbell. It's not available on streaming, but the DVD is readily available on Amazon.
I'm suggesting it to you because you do a lot of tv shows, and maybe you can bring knowledge of this hidden gem to a wider audience.
I like how the laser thing that Simon used at the beginning was used in Agents of SHIELD. Joss must really like that weapon
Wanna catch up with Alliance...
Alien/Aliens...etc.
Ron Glass (Shepherd Book) was on Barney Miller with Max Gail.
Who was in D.C. Cab with Adam Baldwin (Jane).
Anyone know why there isn't a full-length of this up for patrons???