With Episode 5 of Star Wars The Acolyte and recent interviews about Episode 6. It's time to admit, The Stranger isn't a Sith... #StarWars #Disney #TheAcolyte
Didnt Hedland say in an interview that she wanted to explore the Sith. And Dafne Keen/Jecki Lon said in another interview that the show is about how the Sith infiltrate the Jedi
Exploring the sith includes Exploring the dark side and non sith things The dark side itself doesn't have to be sith and may who use it are not It could be a story of how the sith use these events to infiltrate the Jedi order But not specifically that Qimir is a sith which I hope is the case because Qimir simple wanting to use the force the way he wants to is more interesting than him being a sith
We've seen the sith lord. Its the jedi who sol reports to. Shes the one who blocked the council from knowing about the incident. A sith being a member of the jedi order would be a great explanation of the jedis failure to detect them in this era.
@@gabrielchastain6091 exploring the sith doesn't mean exploring the dark side itself the sith is a very specific religion and specific group. Anybody saying sith referring to just the dark side of the force doesn't actually know star wars.
I think that he is potentially the Sith Apprentice to whomever the real Sith Lord is at this time. We know from the Plaugeis novel that its not impossible for a Sith to be grooming more than one Apprentice. Heck, Palpatine essentially does the same thing with Dooku and Anakin in the movies.
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@@gwilym1991 Then at that point he IS a Sith. If you train like one, use their teachings/holocrons and even allude to the comparison, you are in essense, a Sith at that point.
@@MythologyBeyond I'm sorry, but that is just completely wrong. That wouldn't make you a Sith, you'd basically be a pretender. The actual Sith are following the Rule of Two and the lineage that was started with Darth Bane. That is what the Sith are. Not just training and holocrons.
@@MythologyBeyondReasonable way to categorize, but he still wouldn't have to be a Banite Sith. I personally like a more restrictive definition for sith myself. Either way I hope he isn't really a Sith. Not all dark siders(with red light sabers) should be Sith, IMO. I'm fine if it eventually turns out the Banite Sith used him though.
@@unincognito3689If I go and attempt to rob a bank with the right tools, blueprints etc but I am inexperienced and unsuccessful at robbing the bank, does that make me any less of a bank robber? Sure “pretender”, but you’re still following many of the philosophies that the thing you’re “pretending to be” or mimicking abide by. If you pretend to be something long enough, you eventually become said thing.
To be fair Ventress had red sabers too and was no Sith. Also Maul kept using red sabers after he had been replaced and was no more Sith. And also .Kylo Ren.
There is no connection between the Dark Side and purple lightsabers in canon. Meanwhile, TONS of non-Sith Darksiders use red lightsabers. There is nothing about a red lightsaber that means they must be a Sith.
@@derkernspalter Ventress'es lightsabers given to her by Dooku as a "welcome" gift. Maul keep using the hilt of his org Lightsaber. And probably combined it with whatever left from Savage's(it was suppose to be bleed out ver of Ventress'es yellow lightsaber,but it retconned later). He later took down a İnquisitor and took his lightsaber. Kylo ren while bleed out his own khyber crystal. Palpatine was manuplating him,so it make sense how Kylo learned to do it.
I still don't know what the knights of Ren are. The movies didn't explain, and I'm not going to pick up every comic book out there to understand what the movies/TV shows do.
I don't think being a Sith and being the first Knight of Ren are mutually exclusive. The Stranger can be a Sith apprentice either trying to start his own thing, or trying to get an acolyte to overthrow his master, but he fails and decides to start his own thing anyway. This also doesn't break any Sith lineage, even in Legends Darth Tenebrous had a second unofficial apprentice.
@@johnhoran9840 Well, Maul was trying to rise in power in order to be a galactic threat,, thus Sidious went after him because he would be a challenger. If Maul just stayed content to live in hiding and laying low he would be beneath Sidious' attention at least until the Empire was formed and there was no bigger threat to deal with.
The simple fact is that he can be a sith deal with it, he said himself he is a sith Maybe it turns out he is a knight of ren but right now he absolutely can be and is a sith
i love how there are so many theories about the acolyte and its story, but you all seem to forget that the writers of this mess arent nearly as talented as to write such a good story, they just fk with the lore how they want
No, there have not been mistakes. Pablo and Filoni are flawless, and they have definitely never been corrected/educated by a voice actor from The Clone Wars.
I have a theory that pretty much says this exact. Tenebrous will learn he’s risking discovery and will cast him aside for Plagueis instead… then, Qimir will found the Knights of Ren
I made a theory using all the info we know so far, so here it is A recent interview with Lesley Headland says that there are two Sith in the show, Qimir obviously being one of them. While Tenebrous and Plagueis are around right now, there is a possibility that Qimir is the apprentice from before Plagueis, I’ll get back to that in a second. I believe it’s very possible that Tenebrous will learn of his apprentice risking discover and he’ll attack him, leaving him wounded. Qimir will then survive and then start the Knights of Ren. Coming back to the Tenebrous thing, in Legends, Tenebrous had an illegitimate apprentice named Darth Venamis who had he ability to *levitate* with the Force. I believe who we are seeing now is Darth Venamis. Qimir is Darth Venamis and is cast aside by Tenebrous. Venamis then starts his own dark side lineage, the Knights of Ren, he himself becoming the “First Ren” or “Ren Prime” or whatever you wanna call him. That then gets passed on to the Ren we see in the comics and then that is passed on to Kylo Ren A neat little poetic bit is the line of Tenebrous and Ren is reconnected after all those years. Venamis breaks off, the Tenebrous lineage continues until Vader, and in Sidious desperation of dying to Vader, he apprentices the current Ren, Kylo, via a Snoke clone. All those generations later, the Ren and the Sith reconnect in the sequel trilogy (I ain’t much a sequels fan but tbh, that’s kinda cool imo)
What doesn't make sense to me is why Venamis, a sith, would create a group of non sith warriors... Their effectiveness is minimal. When they encounter Vader and Sidious they are like pebbles.
@@lorpuz4664 most of my evidence is from stuff people behind the show have said. - There’s two Sith in the show - Headland is a fan of the EU (cannot say how true that is for sure but it seems important that she notes that) - Legends includes Darth Venamis, who eerily lines up with Qimir - Headland also says that the Kylo Ren motifs are intentional
I just went back and watched to double check (at 16:40 onwards in episode 5), and I'm pretty sure that the dialogue in the episode pretty explicitly points to him not being Sith. The exact quote is "I have no name, but the Jedi like you might call me... Sith." To me this means that from his point of view he is not Sith, and maybe even calls himself a Jedi of sorts but just a different kind to the mainstream order. If he actually was a Sith, he would be able to define himself as a Sith.
Yes. Teaching his apprentice the sith code repeatedly to the point she's annoyed just hearing the first line (Peace is a lie). That seams pretty Sith to me.
jea but the red light saber.. and im not saying its red so is he a sith, but the procedure to form a red crystal. i mean they confirmed in interviews that he is a sith, at this point we can only wait on the last episodes and hope they somehow make it right and dont break lore , which is almost an impossible task but im trying to enjoy the show and trying to be positive
@@robertkarp2070 the crystal is made out of a green/blue/yellow etc. , its filled with hatred of the user and the feelings in a ceremony and how it turns red eventually. without googling it thats what i remember
Correct me if im wrong but no canon sources state that Tenebrous was Plageous' master, so there is room for Qimir to be a sith without interrupting established lineage.
An Ideal reveal for me would be that Qimir is Plagueis's Apprentace, Plagueis either abandons him like Palpatine did Maul, or attempts to kill him and Qimir successfully gets away (fakes his death?) to go on to start the knights of Ren, I mean his character design is so similar! The helmet with the single arm gauntlet, the burns/scaring. Its just too good. The only problem? The time line is kinda fucked up. But I don't care, I like Qimir, and I don't want him dead, I want to see him in more stuff.
The sith are hidden, thought to be extinct. I think he thinks he's bringing back the sith as he's completely unaware, like everyone else, that they still exist
Kind of yes. He wants to be free but with his force abilities and strenght and the jedi are bound to something like theire rules so he is indeet a dark side user as the light side doesnt allow this freeness. Maby unknowingly he is bringing back dark side users and pumping up those numbers again.
He doesn't have yellow eyes and seems to restrict to be a Sith. My guess is that he's a potential apprentice to whoever the Master is at this point(hopes up for Plagueis). I'm pretty sure he is just another acolyte like Ventress was to Dooku.
What lore is this breaking people? We still don't know how the show ends. The existence of sith could still be kept under wraps. Whether by all witnesses dying or a jedi cover up. The point of Ki Mundi line in Phantom Menace is that he is wrong. The sith do exist. Y'all be falling to the darkside and letting the hate for the show blind you 🤨
I do think he is a sith and he knows the sith Code but I can't deny hearing Kylo Ren's theme at the end when kneels down next to Osha. I'm thinking Kylo Ren's theme is played because of something similiar going on. Anyways, Headland did say that it will be addressed. Also, Qimir sure looks a lot like that Guy who refers to himself as Ren in the Kylo ren comic book. Similar looking helmet, very muscular. We just have to wait and see.
I think it’s probably true he’s not a Sith but it is unwise to be clinging to the Legends versions of Plagueis and Tenebrous just because of scant references in Canon materials that seem to confirm it
If he does turn out to be connected to the Knights of Ren then despite the show itself being kind of mid(just my opinion) it does a FAR better job at handling them then the sequel trilogy ever did. Dear god they were wasted. Snokes bodyguards were more intimidating then them despite the fact their fight scene was pretty sloppy.
In the end, it's doesn't matter what sect he's part of. It's not like the Jedi and Sith have a monopoly on the Force. When I first started watching Star Wars in the late 70's it was understood that there were many groups of Force-users in the SW galaxy, not just these two. I'm glad recent stories are starting to reflect that again.
It doesn't matter whether he's a sith or not. He told Sol that the jedi might call him one. So unless Sol dies before relying this information to the council Ki Adi Mundi's line in episode 1 makes no sense
There is a possibility Sol turns and decides not to tell anyone. Or he just assumes (most likely correctly), that Qimir is not a Sith. A good thing about this show is that there are many possibilities for what could happen.
@Ghostdog111dd Yes, the show has many possibilities, but it's repeatedly failed on its execution. Good ideas are meaningless if they're executed poorly. Which is about the only thing this show is good at, wasting its own potential.
My guess is he is a sith aprentice trying to train an acolyte to kill the master, so probably he is going to die, likely with sol going down also and as he said, now that you know who I am, you all die. They could also show a known sith killing him with the jedi thinking otherwise. Please dont critique a series until the season finale
Let me give you the theory. By the end of this show whoever Qimir's master is (Darth Tenebris or Darth Plagueis) will banish him for risking their discovery and create the Knights of Ren. That's just my theory at least.
I'm willing to bet he is Darth Plagueis after tonight's episode. The timeline lines up too. I don't think he'll be found out by the Jedi Council so it'll all make sense in the canon of the sith not existing for 1000 years.
Hes a Sith Acolyte aka a "follower" of the Sith code, a fanatic. Hes not an actual sith or darth. Hes a force sensitive guy who must have founda holocron of some sort and became obsessed with the Sith order.
Imagine that, a star wars fan complaining about the cannon and lore being screwed over.... It's like watching me get angry at how Kurtzman ruined Star Trek and now Amazon ruined Lord of the Rings.
Hmmm……forgive my skepticism, This Stranger who calls himself Qimir and the Master is NOT a Sith AT ALL. Yes, he has the wardrobe and lightsaber color of the Sith. Yes, he fights like the Sith. However, this can be an imitation.
It would align with my headcanon. I think he is more of Dark Side fanboy (like Kylo Ren was Darth Vader fanboy) who wants to be Sith. Maybe he's ex-Padawan, that got too curious and edgy for Jedi's taste and got expelled for dabbling with Sith teachings. Now he is trying to implement what he knows, which is at best incomplete, into his own idea of Sith.
The fact that he uses cortosis and especially trakata, makes me personally think he’s a failed Sith Acolyte, too weak to be a proper apprentice. Yes, they confirm that he uses trakata, likely when he ☠️ Jecki, despite it not even really being anything close to what most would know as trakata. As for the cortosis, it’s an interesting can of worms unleashed in the SW canon. I personally like it, but the way he used it was just weird. He also kills all but one Jedi with a “Lasersword”, Aka a weapon. But I’m way over giving any of these writers any shred of credit.
I always assumed Kylo actually was sith because Palps became his master in TROS? And Snoke was just Palps in disguise (or something like that) so Snoke was kinda sith too.
Yeah even if Kylo didn't realize it. But also Sith Troopers, Sith Assassins all use the name sith. Ventress (I think) thought she would end up being a real Sith under Dooku. Savage probably the same thing though it was complicated by him also being a plant by the Nightsisters. Sideous accused Maul of being a rival, implying he was still an apprentice trying to be a master training a new apprentice (Savage). The whole thing is based on word games or ideals that were preached but conveniently ignored at times.
I mean if he uses the dark side and follows sith teachings. I would probably consider him a sith that doesnt follow the rule of 2. Then the problem arises from from who did he learn this from. Holocron? Failed acolyte (sith in training)? Him being a knight of ren also brings in other questions...
To be a Sith you have to be named as a Sith Apprentice by a Sith Master, who had previously been made a Sith Apprentice by his Sith Master, until he murdered the latter and automatically become one himself. But, he clearly has Sith-like powers, so he's Sith adjacent. Was he once a Sith apprentice but ultimately de-Sithed by his master, and if so why and by which master? Or was he a Sith acolyte, i.e. a Site Apprentice's apprentice, like Ventress or Opress, or a Sith Master's "reserve" Sith Apprentice candidate, like Dooku before Maul was taken out? I think he was rejected twice, once by the Jedi and again by the Sith. Guy's got issues.
Disney created TCW season 7 (I’m mostly talking about the final act), the first season of the mandalorian, and Andor. Imo, some of the best television out there. If they cared an enough about SW to fund and create those shows, why wouldn’t they care enough for their own canon?
I literally dont care. In return of the jedi, how can leia remember vividly of what her mother look like when she was just a baby? Continuity issues has always been a starwars thing. Hes a sith, deal with it. The dude even mentions the sith code
...We really need to find a way to benevolently repurpose Kylo Ren leitmotif for a far better character, even if it's one not from any Star Wars work... would be quite schway if it's used for a Dark Sided Jaden Korr iteration though in an Infinities/Visions/What If.../Elseworlds tale.
I hope this is what's gonna happen . . . Mei tricked Qimir into thinking she followed him, and really serves someone else. Hence the switch at the end. Qimir may even be aware of some of this to a limited degree. Mei is infiltrating the Jedi order now, and is part of something bigger. The dark sider directing things is still concealed.
The Knights of Ren aren’t just that group, they can shift and change and likely had different members throughout time. Kylo Ren wasn’t always the leader, there was someone before him known as Ren, who Ben Solo defeated and claimed the knights for himself
I think we as fans are getting a bit too in the weeds with the lore at times. Not saying that some of the fallacies in the show are enjoyable, but the more I think about some of the things going on in this show, the more I’m able to rationalize some oddities. I’m by no means a SW theory expert, but am a pretty big fan and have read some of the books and played quite a few of the games. To be fair, there are plenty of things I don’t even like in the original trilogy or the prequels, but yet I still love the universe. I watched Episodes 2/3/4 and I think 5 of the Acolyte last night all together and honestly it’s not that bad of a show with the exception of some cringe moments and some lore that makes you turn your head sideways at first. I’d give it like a 6/10. I think 13% rotten tomatoes score is dramatic and there is a lot of unnecessary whining over little things. After watching the first episode the night it came out and then not watching the show all these weeks until last night, I was listening to the internet criticism and believing most of it. But if you binge watch, then a lot of the silly stuff doesn’t bother you that much because you’re already into the next scene. I think having to wait a whole week for the next episode has the fan base criticizing and thinking about what they didn’t like for a whole week at a time. I have a feeling there are some people that would agree with me here. I don’t LOVE the show, but it’s more engaging than dumbass Book of Boba Fett… Key takeaways: -Choreography is damn good for the most part -I really don’t mind the whole diversity thing, it hasn’t detracted from the show in my opinion too much. Yeah the fat Jedi doesn’t make sense, but I’m just assuming his ass uses force speed to fight or something, idk. There are some weird ass Alien species that don’t look like they could move in a lightsaber fight, but here they are.. -A few key actors aren’t that great (Main actress when she’s playing Mae is annoying with her try-hard badass-ness, As Osha she’s alright but still has some moments where her acting feels off / The Green Jedi lady (Headlands’ Wife) fucking sucks honestly and that’s not even a personal thing, she just can’t act and she feels rigid and awkwardly placed in the show / I hated Yord at first because of his attitude, but the SW universe is massive and people IRL have different personalities, this character happens to be over the top proper all of the time / Sol and Jeckie’s acting is 👍/ Our Sith Lord acts a little maniacal (crazy / loony) and over dramatic sometimes, but I take it up as that just being a part of his character, it doesn’t detract too much notable moments that I thought were kind of cheesy were the times he snapped his head left when first fighting the Jedi for example / It didn’t make sense to me that the Witches aren’t really evil, but I guess they were just trying to find their own grotto in the galaxy to thrive in / The kid actresses in the first episode (Mae in particular) were Uber cheesy, but they actually did a decent job in the rest of the episodes. -Mother Anesaya was cheesy and over dramatic at times, and seeing her cry felt weird because once again I assumed they would all be evil, but it just seemed like they wanted their own little plot of dirt to settle on. -The whole “witches creating life” really pissed off the fan base, and especially because Plagueis / Tenebrous had been pursuing this for years and then some random witches did it all of a sudden, however, this group had the strength of multiple witches (yes they’re cheesy as fuck with the way they move their stupid hands and chant dumb shit) and all shared a common goal, In the Bane trilogy all of the Sith Lords created a huge spirit bomb that killed everyone on the planet they were on (including themselves because Bane tricked them), if a powerful group of people can wipe out that much life then is it not possible that a powerful group can pursue the opposite? I’m sure we could argue all damn day about this part.. and before anyone says “So Anakin isn’t the chosen one anymore?” Was he ever really the chosen one? Does the chosen one even exist? Because he didn’t bring balance to the force as far as I understand. The cycle continues, even after the goofy ending of Ep 9 with Rey and Ben Solo, eventually the cycle will start again, someone in the galaxy pursues the darkness and someone from the light will try to stop them, just like others in the last 10s of thousands of years.. -Yes Tenebrous and Plagueis are our known Sith Lords at this time (lore wise) so why is this other guy here? If he’s not associated with them then my only thought is who says there can’t be some other stray bullet Sith-like character out there? If anything he probably was already planned to be killed at some point if I had to make a guess and this whole arc comes to some conclusion and doesn’t interfere with TPM. -Ki Adi Mundi issue: Idk what to say about this one other than maybe we haven’t seen the part yet where this sub-council (the one that Headlands’s wife directs) comes to believe that Qimir and Mae weren’t actually Sith (assuming they die or at least Qimir Dies in the future) and this whole thing was just some chapter in the book. It’s clear that she doesn’t want the High Council to know about this in the first place. Final thoughts: This is one of the few times that a SW project has broken away from the Skywalker mould, and for that I’m appreciative because that shit gets old honestly. There were clearly some poor choices of wording in the interviews with Headland and some of the cast members, and of course you can’t ignore their horrible handling of the fans lack of interest in their show. So honestly it’s their fault to a large extent for the bad wrap (IMO at least) However, I think we jumped the gun in some ways before all the episodes in the first season aired (and I say that because it could get worse or it could get better, who knows) Doesn’t probably matter because they canceled this project already, and maybe that means we’ll get an even better Old Republic Era project or something in the future.
@@mandolorian9893 Because Wookieepedia literally has the date established at 3 ABY for Knights of Ren, and I ain’t wasting money just to dig through some Disney era comics that aren’t worth my time to see for myself. So until proven otherwise, I’m going with 3 ABY in Disney’s mess of a continuity
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Qimir: "The Jedi call me...Sith"
Sol: "That's impossible!"
Qimir: "Why?"
Sol: "Because the wrong music is playing!"
Qimir says that a Jedi like Sol might call him a Sith.
This show is so dammed stupid
Actually he is known as Smilo Ren
@pepelepew2690 Im Going with Darth Toofus
@@alexanderpetrow8668 🦷👀
Didnt Hedland say in an interview that she wanted to explore the Sith. And Dafne Keen/Jecki Lon said in another interview that the show is about how the Sith infiltrate the Jedi
Exploring the sith includes
Exploring the dark side and non sith things
The dark side itself doesn't have to be sith and may who use it are not
It could be a story of how the sith use these events to infiltrate the Jedi order
But not specifically that Qimir is a sith which I hope is the case because Qimir simple wanting to use the force the way he wants to is more interesting than him being a sith
We've seen the sith lord. Its the jedi who sol reports to. Shes the one who blocked the council from knowing about the incident. A sith being a member of the jedi order would be a great explanation of the jedis failure to detect them in this era.
@@gabrielchastain6091this is rapidly becoming a kingdom hearts the darkness tier gobbly gock terms
Why is anyone listening to what that evil old hag says?😂
@@gabrielchastain6091 exploring the sith doesn't mean exploring the dark side itself the sith is a very specific religion and specific group. Anybody saying sith referring to just the dark side of the force doesn't actually know star wars.
I think that he is potentially the Sith Apprentice to whomever the real Sith Lord is at this time. We know from the Plaugeis novel that its not impossible for a Sith to be grooming more than one Apprentice.
Heck, Palpatine essentially does the same thing with Dooku and Anakin in the movies.
What i think is that he is a candidate of some sort. Or is an apprentice training to overthrow their master.
I think he's Venamis, the illegitimate second apprentice of Tenebrous, with the "official" apprentice being Plagueis.
@@rawkmode6315 wasn't Venamis also Bith?
@@mitwhitgaming7722 Yes.
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I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.
God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins.
For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.
Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible.
The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".
LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
Dude's getting harder to understand.
falafel see, falafel do 🥙
Falafel in the show, so it's really diverce.
I heard it too hahahahahaha
He quoted the sith code...
Could have found a Sith Holocron or something.
@@gwilym1991 Then at that point he IS a Sith. If you train like one, use their teachings/holocrons and even allude to the comparison, you are in essense, a Sith at that point.
@@MythologyBeyond I'm sorry, but that is just completely wrong. That wouldn't make you a Sith, you'd basically be a pretender. The actual Sith are following the Rule of Two and the lineage that was started with Darth Bane. That is what the Sith are. Not just training and holocrons.
@@MythologyBeyondReasonable way to categorize, but he still wouldn't have to be a Banite Sith. I personally like a more restrictive definition for sith myself.
Either way I hope he isn't really a Sith. Not all dark siders(with red light sabers) should be Sith, IMO. I'm fine if it eventually turns out the Banite Sith used him though.
@@unincognito3689If I go and attempt to rob a bank with the right tools, blueprints etc but I am inexperienced and unsuccessful at robbing the bank, does that make me any less of a bank robber?
Sure “pretender”, but you’re still following many of the philosophies that the thing you’re “pretending to be” or mimicking abide by.
If you pretend to be something long enough, you eventually become said thing.
00:13 - Philofosy.... 😂
Headland confirmed it, he’s a sith
we will see.
You know,all of them can be avoided ıf they just gived him a purple lightsaber.
But then what would we have to get angry about?
@@mandolorian9893 forget getting angry,ı just want a good content like Badbatch and Andore.
To be fair Ventress had red sabers too and was no Sith. Also Maul kept using red sabers after he had been replaced and was no more Sith. And also .Kylo Ren.
There is no connection between the Dark Side and purple lightsabers in canon. Meanwhile, TONS of non-Sith Darksiders use red lightsabers. There is nothing about a red lightsaber that means they must be a Sith.
@@derkernspalter
Ventress'es lightsabers given to her by Dooku as a "welcome" gift.
Maul keep using the hilt of his org Lightsaber. And probably combined it with whatever left from Savage's(it was suppose to be bleed out ver of Ventress'es yellow lightsaber,but it retconned later). He later took down a İnquisitor and took his lightsaber.
Kylo ren while bleed out his own khyber crystal. Palpatine was manuplating him,so it make sense how Kylo learned to do it.
I miss the days where we just watched TV shows.
@@lustrazor44As well as more likely to rage bait. And exaggerate opinions about things in shows. At least from what I have seen.
@@Ghostdog111dd i agree. but a coin has two sides, this rage has an origin
@@reggaesurvivor251 That is true, you make a fair point.
Yes, it is now more entertaining to discuss a TV show than to watch it.
Master Sol is the Sith that infiltrated the Jedi Order
Except the actor said he was Sith in an interview. He also said it in the show.
Could be lying.
@@gwilym1991 Like a Sith.
Another actor said that Anakin destroyed the Death Star, so...
He said he has no name, but the Jedi might call him Sith.
@@Hooligoon78 True but the key word is "might".
I still don't know what the knights of Ren are. The movies didn't explain, and I'm not going to pick up every comic book out there to understand what the movies/TV shows do.
i help you. type in search bar "knights of ren" . your welcome
I don't think being a Sith and being the first Knight of Ren are mutually exclusive. The Stranger can be a Sith apprentice either trying to start his own thing, or trying to get an acolyte to overthrow his master, but he fails and decides to start his own thing anyway. This also doesn't break any Sith lineage, even in Legends Darth Tenebrous had a second unofficial apprentice.
It would take serious guts to leave your Sith Master and try to start your own thing. Look what Sidious did to Maul.
@@johnhoran9840 Well, Maul was trying to rise in power in order to be a galactic threat,, thus Sidious went after him because he would be a challenger. If Maul just stayed content to live in hiding and laying low he would be beneath Sidious' attention at least until the Empire was formed and there was no bigger threat to deal with.
@@tiagomoreira8905 True.
He literally is Smilo Ren you can’t make this shit up
The simple fact is that he can be a sith deal with it, he said himself he is a sith
Maybe it turns out he is a knight of ren but right now he absolutely can be and is a sith
i love how there are so many theories about the acolyte and its story, but you all seem to forget that the writers of this mess arent nearly as talented as to write such a good story, they just fk with the lore how they want
No, I heard that Dave Filoni was consulted with on the series.
The head writer is a huge nerd. Massive fan of EU and even Ran a Star Wars RPG at some point.
@@fragile4408 And called RD2D a fucking lesbian.
No, there have not been mistakes. Pablo and Filoni are flawless, and they have definitely never been corrected/educated by a voice actor from The Clone Wars.
@@bigt2079Said voice actor is a massive Star Wars nerd himself, though.
Except, Leslye refers to him as a Sith in interviews. And Qimir himself said the Jedi would call him Sith.
so just cuz kylo wasnt a sith means he isnt? who says he cant be both ren and sith?
I have a theory that pretty much says this exact. Tenebrous will learn he’s risking discovery and will cast him aside for Plagueis instead… then, Qimir will found the Knights of Ren
I made a theory using all the info we know so far, so here it is
A recent interview with Lesley Headland says that there are two Sith in the show, Qimir obviously being one of them. While Tenebrous and Plagueis are around right now, there is a possibility that Qimir is the apprentice from before Plagueis, I’ll get back to that in a second. I believe it’s very possible that Tenebrous will learn of his apprentice risking discover and he’ll attack him, leaving him wounded. Qimir will then survive and then start the Knights of Ren. Coming back to the Tenebrous thing, in Legends, Tenebrous had an illegitimate apprentice named Darth Venamis who had he ability to *levitate* with the Force. I believe who we are seeing now is Darth Venamis. Qimir is Darth Venamis and is cast aside by Tenebrous. Venamis then starts his own dark side lineage, the Knights of Ren, he himself becoming the “First Ren” or “Ren Prime” or whatever you wanna call him. That then gets passed on to the Ren we see in the comics and then that is passed on to Kylo Ren
A neat little poetic bit is the line of Tenebrous and Ren is reconnected after all those years. Venamis breaks off, the Tenebrous lineage continues until Vader, and in Sidious desperation of dying to Vader, he apprentices the current Ren, Kylo, via a Snoke clone. All those generations later, the Ren and the Sith reconnect in the sequel trilogy
(I ain’t much a sequels fan but tbh, that’s kinda cool imo)
This is actually legit af and would retcon some of the show's poor writing.
What doesn't make sense to me is why Venamis, a sith, would create a group of non sith warriors... Their effectiveness is minimal. When they encounter Vader and Sidious they are like pebbles.
@@ThatGuy-tx4vm one thing I know is Sith are very egotistical… he likely believed he could make a better “Sith order” than Tenebrous and Plagueis
This theory probably took You more time and effort than what they took on their original plan
@@lorpuz4664 most of my evidence is from stuff people behind the show have said.
- There’s two Sith in the show
- Headland is a fan of the EU (cannot say how true that is for sure but it seems important that she notes that)
- Legends includes Darth Venamis, who eerily lines up with Qimir
- Headland also says that the Kylo Ren motifs are intentional
I just went back and watched to double check (at 16:40 onwards in episode 5), and I'm pretty sure that the dialogue in the episode pretty explicitly points to him not being Sith. The exact quote is "I have no name, but the Jedi like you might call me... Sith." To me this means that from his point of view he is not Sith, and maybe even calls himself a Jedi of sorts but just a different kind to the mainstream order. If he actually was a Sith, he would be able to define himself as a Sith.
Atleast he is cooler than kylonren
Nah don’t diss ur grandson like that 😂
Adam Driver is Adam Driver. He cant beat him.
Idc my grandson sucked and is not canon
@@AnakinSkywalker-qe2rk ı was reffering the actor.
I wasn’t talking to U
Yes. Teaching his apprentice the sith code repeatedly to the point she's annoyed just hearing the first line (Peace is a lie). That seams pretty Sith to me.
If he looks like a Sith, behaves like a Sith, follows the Sith code, then he is a Sith.
He never admits to being a sith while he also shares sith beliefs, he just states that if the jedi were to label him they would call him a sith
Exactly. Its the "if you arent one of us you are one of them"
jea but the red light saber.. and im not saying its red so is he a sith, but the procedure to form a red crystal. i mean they confirmed in interviews that he is a sith, at this point we can only wait on the last episodes and hope they somehow make it right and dont break lore , which is almost an impossible task but im trying to enjoy the show and trying to be positive
@@reggaesurvivor251 I think red saber just signifies Dark Force User.
@@robertkarp2070 the crystal is made out of a green/blue/yellow etc. , its filled with hatred of the user and the feelings in a ceremony and how it turns red eventually. without googling it thats what i remember
in episode 6 qimir states he wants the rule of 2. He IS a sith, he said he was a sith, and he recites the sith code.
All I know is that the Stranger’s favorite team is the Jaguars.
Correct me if im wrong but no canon sources state that Tenebrous was Plageous' master, so there is room for Qimir to be a sith without interrupting established lineage.
An Ideal reveal for me would be that Qimir is Plagueis's Apprentace, Plagueis either abandons him like Palpatine did Maul, or attempts to kill him and Qimir successfully gets away (fakes his death?) to go on to start the knights of Ren, I mean his character design is so similar! The helmet with the single arm gauntlet, the burns/scaring. Its just too good. The only problem? The time line is kinda fucked up. But I don't care, I like Qimir, and I don't want him dead, I want to see him in more stuff.
The sith are hidden, thought to be extinct. I think he thinks he's bringing back the sith as he's completely unaware, like everyone else, that they still exist
Kind of yes. He wants to be free but with his force abilities and strenght and the jedi are bound to something like theire rules so he is indeet a dark side user as the light side doesnt allow this freeness. Maby unknowingly he is bringing back dark side users and pumping up those numbers again.
Was the music an audio clue for the first Ren, or the force dyad?
his lightsaber is high republic era design
Ezra found a cross guard lightsaber on Malachor 🤷🏻♂️
‼️⚠️Qimir is either a secret rival of Plageuis, vying for the place of master using an acolyte, a pretender, or a substitute for Darth Venomous.⚠️‼️
It could also being a sign that Osha and Mae are a dyad. We simply do not know yet, it doesn’t mean he’s a sith or isn’t.
Origin for the Knights of Ren? They don't show up until the Force Rebooted.
He doesn't have yellow eyes and seems to restrict to be a Sith. My guess is that he's a potential apprentice to whoever the Master is at this point(hopes up for Plagueis). I'm pretty sure he is just another acolyte like Ventress was to Dooku.
Unless they explain in Acolyre why jedi order wouldn't consider Qimir a sith it doesn't matter what the out of universe explenation is
What lore is this breaking people?
We still don't know how the show ends. The existence of sith could still be kept under wraps. Whether by all witnesses dying or a jedi cover up.
The point of Ki Mundi line in Phantom Menace is that he is wrong. The sith do exist.
Y'all be falling to the darkside and letting the hate for the show blind you 🤨
I didn't realise that mother fucking jason from The Good Place is Qimir
in that episode with the witches there is a cloaked figure unaccounted for he probably is the apprentice n that cloaked figure is the real sith lord
What if he's the first "Ren", a Sith who inspired a cult-like following over the next 200 years?
I do think he is a sith and he knows the sith Code but I can't deny hearing Kylo Ren's theme at the end when kneels down next to Osha. I'm thinking Kylo Ren's theme is played because of something similiar going on. Anyways, Headland did say that it will be addressed.
Also, Qimir sure looks a lot like that Guy who refers to himself as Ren in the Kylo ren comic book. Similar looking helmet, very muscular. We just have to wait and see.
I like this theory of Qimir being a Knight of Ren.
They literally named the show Acolyte so Qimir is an sith acolyte
They refer to him as a Sith in interviews so yeah…
I think it’s probably true he’s not a Sith but it is unwise to be clinging to the Legends versions of Plagueis and Tenebrous just because of scant references in Canon materials that seem to confirm it
If he does turn out to be connected to the Knights of Ren then despite the show itself being kind of mid(just my opinion) it does a FAR better job at handling them then the sequel trilogy ever did. Dear god they were wasted. Snokes bodyguards were more intimidating then them despite the fact their fight scene was pretty sloppy.
I mean, today he said power of two in ep 6... so i mean, he could still go either way, but I think that he will end up being sith.
In the end, it's doesn't matter what sect he's part of. It's not like the Jedi and Sith have a monopoly on the Force. When I first started watching Star Wars in the late 70's it was understood that there were many groups of Force-users in the SW galaxy, not just these two. I'm glad recent stories are starting to reflect that again.
He literally called himself a sith in the episode tho
It doesn't matter whether he's a sith or not. He told Sol that the jedi might call him one. So unless Sol dies before relying this information to the council Ki Adi Mundi's line in episode 1 makes no sense
There is a possibility Sol turns and decides not to tell anyone. Or he just assumes (most likely correctly), that Qimir is not a Sith.
A good thing about this show is that there are many possibilities for what could happen.
@Ghostdog111dd Yes, the show has many possibilities, but it's repeatedly failed on its execution. Good ideas are meaningless if they're executed poorly. Which is about the only thing this show is good at, wasting its own potential.
@@ssj2gogetto268 We should probably wait and see if they continue or if they execute them properly in the last episodes.
The knights of Ren were weak.. could barely even move a blade of grass with the force
My guess is he is a sith aprentice trying to train an acolyte to kill the master, so probably he is going to die, likely with sol going down also and as he said, now that you know who I am, you all die. They could also show a known sith killing him with the jedi thinking otherwise.
Please dont critique a series until the season finale
Let me give you the theory. By the end of this show whoever Qimir's master is (Darth Tenebris or Darth Plagueis) will banish him for risking their discovery and create the Knights of Ren. That's just my theory at least.
I'm willing to bet he is Darth Plagueis after tonight's episode. The timeline lines up too. I don't think he'll be found out by the Jedi Council so it'll all make sense in the canon of the sith not existing for 1000 years.
Hes a Sith Acolyte aka a "follower" of the Sith code, a fanatic. Hes not an actual sith or darth. Hes a force sensitive guy who must have founda holocron of some sort and became obsessed with the Sith order.
He literally can be a sith
Just ignore the Acoshyte.
nah im good thanks
exactly, Leslie was too busy feeding padowans to harvey
I’m a recent interview on Mary sue Lelasie refers to him as a sith
But he said he wants the power of two
Imagine that, a star wars fan complaining about the cannon and lore being screwed over.... It's like watching me get angry at how Kurtzman ruined Star Trek and now Amazon ruined Lord of the Rings.
Or his master abandoned him and he created the Knights of Ren
Wishful thinking, but semantics as far as cannon is concerned
That cave... It's where Darth Tenebrous Died???
Yes
Sith Acolyte not a Sith Lord
I think Qimir sais, "Jedi like you might call me a Sith" just to mess with Sol and get him mentally off balance.
Hmmm……forgive my skepticism, This Stranger who calls himself Qimir and the Master is NOT a Sith AT ALL. Yes, he has the wardrobe and lightsaber color of the Sith. Yes, he fights like the Sith. However, this can be an imitation.
I understood that reference.
2003 CW is still so fucking peak.
He's a Ren.
He's like a dark jedi maybe?
Or a ronin
No he's a Sith. Just not a Bainite one
He needs donkey doug and pillboy's help
you know, the actor has a name. Don't be afraid to use it: Jason Mendoza
It would align with my headcanon. I think he is more of Dark Side fanboy (like Kylo Ren was Darth Vader fanboy) who wants to be Sith. Maybe he's ex-Padawan, that got too curious and edgy for Jedi's taste and got expelled for dabbling with Sith teachings. Now he is trying to implement what he knows, which is at best incomplete, into his own idea of Sith.
why does he say "Kwimir" instead of "Qimir" like it is said in the show?
Because Charlie is a numpty.
Ooo! What if Qimir has a twin?!
He could
He headbutt a light saber he is sith
The fact that he uses cortosis and especially trakata, makes me personally think he’s a failed Sith Acolyte, too weak to be a proper apprentice.
Yes, they confirm that he uses trakata, likely when he ☠️ Jecki, despite it not even really being anything close to what most would know as trakata.
As for the cortosis, it’s an interesting can of worms unleashed in the SW canon.
I personally like it, but the way he used it was just weird.
He also kills all but one Jedi with a “Lasersword”, Aka a weapon.
But I’m way over giving any of these writers any shred of credit.
Then why did he say that he IS a Sith?????? This is so confusing wtf they don’t know what they’re talking about even in their own show…
He could be he could be one of the seven sith or acolytes I’m just saying what theory said
So is the show about the Sith or not?
I always assumed Kylo actually was sith because Palps became his master in TROS? And Snoke was just Palps in disguise (or something like that) so Snoke was kinda sith too.
No, just a dark sider… it’s not like Sidious has ever been against bending the Rule of Two
Yeah even if Kylo didn't realize it. But also Sith Troopers, Sith Assassins all use the name sith. Ventress (I think) thought she would end up being a real Sith under Dooku. Savage probably the same thing though it was complicated by him also being a plant by the Nightsisters. Sideous accused Maul of being a rival, implying he was still an apprentice trying to be a master training a new apprentice (Savage). The whole thing is based on word games or ideals that were preached but conveniently ignored at times.
You guys have to know the difference between a Sith and an darksider /assassin /acolyte for the Sith.
@@wishsuccess5995 He's trained as an apprentice by a sith lord (or two). For all intents and purposes he's as much of a sith as characters like Maul.
@@Juel92 so was Ventress but she wasn’t a Sith
He is one of the knight of ren
Sadly cant be, cause the Knights of Ren were founded 3 ABY
I mean if he uses the dark side and follows sith teachings. I would probably consider him a sith that doesnt follow the rule of 2.
Then the problem arises from from who did he learn this from. Holocron? Failed acolyte (sith in training)? Him being a knight of ren also brings in other questions...
It's a work of fiction. It can be what be whatever the writers want it to be.
It would be so lame if he isnt a sith
To be a Sith you have to be named as a Sith Apprentice by a Sith Master, who had previously been made a Sith Apprentice by his Sith Master, until he murdered the latter and automatically become one himself.
But, he clearly has Sith-like powers, so he's Sith adjacent. Was he once a Sith apprentice but ultimately de-Sithed by his master, and if so why and by which master? Or was he a Sith acolyte, i.e. a Site Apprentice's apprentice, like Ventress or Opress, or a Sith Master's "reserve" Sith Apprentice candidate, like Dooku before Maul was taken out? I think he was rejected twice, once by the Jedi and again by the Sith. Guy's got issues.
I figure he's a dark side user that found some old sith teachings, maybe even a holocron, and fancies himself a sith.
He doesn’t call himself a Sith
But here's the thing if he his a knight of ren who freaking cares? Like what are they even about? They didnt say in the movids so why care?
Why would you think Disney cares about canon, even their own canon?
DiSnEY bAD
Disney created TCW season 7 (I’m mostly talking about the final act), the first season of the mandalorian, and Andor. Imo, some of the best television out there. If they cared an enough about SW to fund and create those shows, why wouldn’t they care enough for their own canon?
I think the kylo ren theme was about osha and mae, the dyad like kylo and rey
i think qimir is sith
I literally dont care.
In return of the jedi, how can leia remember vividly of what her mother look like when she was just a baby?
Continuity issues has always been a starwars thing.
Hes a sith, deal with it.
The dude even mentions the sith code
hes a sith and a bad ass one, get over it
Well Kylo Ren was apprenticed to a Sith Lord through Snoke who was controlled by Sidious
Originally an apprentice of REN who worked for Snoke. Then Ben solo killed REN and became Kylo REN.
EcksClips is trying really hard to protect the show but he keeps somehow losing
...We really need to find a way to benevolently repurpose Kylo Ren leitmotif for a far better character, even if it's one not from any Star Wars work... would be quite schway if it's used for a Dark Sided Jaden Korr iteration though in an Infinities/Visions/What If.../Elseworlds tale.
I hope this is what's gonna happen . . . Mei tricked Qimir into thinking she followed him, and really serves someone else. Hence the switch at the end. Qimir may even be aware of some of this to a limited degree. Mei is infiltrating the Jedi order now, and is part of something bigger. The dark sider directing things is still concealed.
Only issue, kylo isn't even born yet so unless the knights are extremely old it dousnt make much sense to me
The Knights of Ren aren’t just that group, they can shift and change and likely had different members throughout time. Kylo Ren wasn’t always the leader, there was someone before him known as Ren, who Ben Solo defeated and claimed the knights for himself
I think we as fans are getting a bit too in the weeds with the lore at times. Not saying that some of the fallacies in the show are enjoyable, but the more I think about some of the things going on in this show, the more I’m able to rationalize some oddities. I’m by no means a SW theory expert, but am a pretty big fan and have read some of the books and played quite a few of the games.
To be fair, there are plenty of things I don’t even like in the original trilogy or the prequels, but yet I still love the universe. I watched Episodes 2/3/4 and I think 5 of the Acolyte last night all together and honestly it’s not that bad of a show with the exception of some cringe moments and some lore that makes you turn your head sideways at first. I’d give it like a 6/10. I think 13% rotten tomatoes score is dramatic and there is a lot of unnecessary whining over little things. After watching the first episode the night it came out and then not watching the show all these weeks until last night, I was listening to the internet criticism and believing most of it. But if you binge watch, then a lot of the silly stuff doesn’t bother you that much because you’re already into the next scene. I think having to wait a whole week for the next episode has the fan base criticizing and thinking about what they didn’t like for a whole week at a time. I have a feeling there are some people that would agree with me here. I don’t LOVE the show, but it’s more engaging than dumbass Book of Boba Fett…
Key takeaways:
-Choreography is damn good for the most part
-I really don’t mind the whole diversity thing, it hasn’t detracted from the show in my opinion too much. Yeah the fat Jedi doesn’t make sense, but I’m just assuming his ass uses force speed to fight or something, idk. There are some weird ass Alien species that don’t look like they could move in a lightsaber fight, but here they are..
-A few key actors aren’t that great (Main actress when she’s playing Mae is annoying with her try-hard badass-ness, As Osha she’s alright but still has some moments where her acting feels off / The Green Jedi lady (Headlands’ Wife) fucking sucks honestly and that’s not even a personal thing, she just can’t act and she feels rigid and awkwardly placed in the show / I hated Yord at first because of his attitude, but the SW universe is massive and people IRL have different personalities, this character happens to be over the top proper all of the time / Sol and Jeckie’s acting is 👍/ Our Sith Lord acts a little maniacal (crazy / loony) and over dramatic sometimes, but I take it up as that just being a part of his character, it doesn’t detract too much notable moments that I thought were kind of cheesy were the times he snapped his head left when first fighting the Jedi for example / It didn’t make sense to me that the Witches aren’t really evil, but I guess they were just trying to find their own grotto in the galaxy to thrive in / The kid actresses in the first episode (Mae in particular) were Uber cheesy, but they actually did a decent job in the rest of the episodes.
-Mother Anesaya was cheesy and over dramatic at times, and seeing her cry felt weird because once again I assumed they would all be evil, but it just seemed like they wanted their own little plot of dirt to settle on.
-The whole “witches creating life” really pissed off the fan base, and especially because Plagueis / Tenebrous had been pursuing this for years and then some random witches did it all of a sudden, however, this group had the strength of multiple witches (yes they’re cheesy as fuck with the way they move their stupid hands and chant dumb shit) and all shared a common goal, In the Bane trilogy all of the Sith Lords created a huge spirit bomb that killed everyone on the planet they were on (including themselves because Bane tricked them), if a powerful group of people can wipe out that much life then is it not possible that a powerful group can pursue the opposite? I’m sure we could argue all damn day about this part.. and before anyone says “So Anakin isn’t the chosen one anymore?” Was he ever really the chosen one? Does the chosen one even exist? Because he didn’t bring balance to the force as far as I understand. The cycle continues, even after the goofy ending of Ep 9 with Rey and Ben Solo, eventually the cycle will start again, someone in the galaxy pursues the darkness and someone from the light will try to stop them, just like others in the last 10s of thousands of years..
-Yes Tenebrous and Plagueis are our known Sith Lords at this time (lore wise) so why is this other guy here? If he’s not associated with them then my only thought is who says there can’t be some other stray bullet Sith-like character out there? If anything he probably was already planned to be killed at some point if I had to make a guess and this whole arc comes to some conclusion and doesn’t interfere with TPM.
-Ki Adi Mundi issue: Idk what to say about this one other than maybe we haven’t seen the part yet where this sub-council (the one that Headlands’s wife directs) comes to believe that Qimir and Mae weren’t actually Sith (assuming they die or at least Qimir Dies in the future) and this whole thing was just some chapter in the book. It’s clear that she doesn’t want the High Council to know about this in the first place.
Final thoughts:
This is one of the few times that a SW project has broken away from the Skywalker mould, and for that I’m appreciative because that shit gets old honestly. There were clearly some poor choices of wording in the interviews with Headland and some of the cast members, and of course you can’t ignore their horrible handling of the fans lack of interest in their show. So honestly it’s their fault to a large extent for the bad wrap (IMO at least) However, I think we jumped the gun in some ways before all the episodes in the first season aired (and I say that because it could get worse or it could get better, who knows)
Doesn’t probably matter because they canceled this project already, and maybe that means we’ll get an even better Old Republic Era project or something in the future.
Wait a minute, I thought the Knights of Ren weren’t established until 3 ABY, so Smylo over here can’t be one of them 🤨
Why did you think that?
As far as we know, the Imperial era is the earliest we’ve seen them… it is then ASSUMED to be their establishing year but it is truly not known
@@mandolorian9893
Because Wookieepedia literally has the date established at 3 ABY for Knights of Ren, and I ain’t wasting money just to dig through some Disney era comics that aren’t worth my time to see for myself.
So until proven otherwise, I’m going with 3 ABY in Disney’s mess of a continuity
He is not a sith, why? because of his eyes, literally sith eyes are orange yellowish eyes, you can see that in the obi wan series with darth vader
Palpatine? He looks at jedi all the time face to face w/o yellow eyes
@@Alex-vp4ky He has yellow orange eyes when he is in his true form
Yea I said the same thing
@@Alex-vp4kybecause Sidious used a force power/dark magic called “Force Mask”