What is the Bible Fellowship Church?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • The Bible Fellowship Church has roots in the Mennonite tradition, but today they’ve landed somewhere else. Let’s discuss their history and theology.
    00:00 History of Bible Fellowship Church
    02:50 Core Theology
    03:18 Ordinances (Baptism & Lord’s Supper)
    03:42 Scripture / Creation
    04:34 Sin
    05:02 Atonement
    05:15 Election
    05:44 Salvation
    06:56 Limited Atonement
    07:27 Perseverance of the Saints
    07:42 Evangelism
    08:17 Sanctification / Charismatism
    08:32 Divine Healing
    08:57 Eschatology
    09:41 Sexuality / Family
    10:25 Divorce
    11:04 Life Issues
    11:45 Worship Style / Care of Body
    12:14 Alcohol / Tithing
    12:55 The Church / Polity
    13:45 Women in Ministry
    13:57 The Name / Statistics

Комментарии • 82

  • @justinhadley2583
    @justinhadley2583 2 года назад +17

    I go to an OPC church in a very BFC heavy area. We have an interesting relationship with each other. We tend to have people jump between the two or attend each other's events and programs. From what I am told it has also led to some interesting debates in the BFC about whether to require rebaptism for membership. My brother's father in law is a BFC pastor and their family had left an Evangelical Reformed Church to attend the BFC.
    Appreciate the video. I was a bit delighted to see such a local subject that has a soft spot in my heart makes it's way onto your channel.

    • @ReadyToHarvest
      @ReadyToHarvest  2 года назад +3

      Thanks for sharing! I enjoy making videos on some of the smaller and more obscure groups. I know that some people will be glad to see them.

    • @bfcdenomination
      @bfcdenomination Год назад +2

      You are right! That study is active right now. The study committee has been at work this year and we will hopefully hear their report at our conference in April!

  • @nathanelder5285
    @nathanelder5285 2 года назад +14

    Great videos, Joshua! I’ve learned a ton and I try to watch all of them. I was happy that you mentioned the small denomination of which I am a member, The Missionary Church. Bethel University in Mishawaka, Indiana is our college. One note- the Canada Missionary churches broke away in the late 80’s for legal reasons only- no doctrinal differences.

    • @ReadyToHarvest
      @ReadyToHarvest  2 года назад +5

      Thanks for commenting Nathan. I plan to make a video on the Missionary Church someday. I actually briefly considered jumping into it when making this video, but alas, not yet.

    • @Joeljdwatts
      @Joeljdwatts 2 года назад +1

      @@ReadyToHarvest agreed. I’d love to see on on the MCUSA and the EMC.

  • @JeffJacksonJr
    @JeffJacksonJr 2 года назад +5

    I am a regular attender (and soon to be a member) of a BFC church. This is great. I'll have to share this with my pastor.

  • @bfcdenomination
    @bfcdenomination Год назад +9

    Thank you so much for featuring our denomination on your channel! You did a great job with your research and presentation. Just one minor clarifications: Around the 6 minute mark you quote from a Bible Fellowship Church website in Texas. That church is not a part of our denomination. (Like you said, there are a lot of independent churches that use the name who are not connected.) You quote from them about Limited Atonement. There are some in our denomination who hold to Limited Atonement and others do not. Some say it is implied in our Articles of Faith and others say it is purposefully not spelled out. Otherwise, well done! Thank you so much for featuring us! We are small, but we are faithful to glorify God, worship Him together, and spread the gospel and plant new churches! If anyone has any questions, I'd be glad to answer them for you!

  • @JeffJacksonJr
    @JeffJacksonJr 2 года назад +4

    A few points of clarification and fun facts
    1) The source for the Limited Atonement section is not from a church in the BFC. It is a position we hold though, and I believe it is articulated in Article 11 in the Articles of Faith.
    2) There is a BFC in Mexico. There is also one church in New Mexico and another one in Florida. Other than that, the rest of the churches are in PA, NJ, DE, MD, and NY.
    3) Due to the spirited and lively worship style of these Mennonites who were voted out, they were called the "Jumping Mennonites".
    4) One of the key junctures of why the BFC went in a Reformed direction was the fairly new seminary that many pastors studied at: Westminster Seminary.
    5) Until about almost 50 years ago at BFC conferences, pastors would have to pack their belongings to be ready to be sent to a new location right after the conference.

    • @bfcdenomination
      @bfcdenomination Год назад

      Thank you for sharing those fun facts! And for shouting out our BFCs in Mexico! We are especially excited about the newest one in Tapachula! Do you attend a BFC?

    • @JeffJacksonJr
      @JeffJacksonJr Год назад

      @@bfcdenomination Matter of fact, I just became a member of a BFC Church

  • @brendaboykin3281
    @brendaboykin3281 2 года назад +2

    Thank you,Joshua 🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @ajits64
    @ajits64 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for another great, well presented, and informative video. I hope you will also present "The Reformed Mennonite Church" which was not mentioned here. (They also had a splinter group called United Mennonites.)

  • @nickthescienceguy7911
    @nickthescienceguy7911 2 года назад +5

    Hi Joshua, I know not what denominations this would consist of, but could you do a video on any Evangelical Arminian denominations that deny entire sanctification?
    Thank you so much for your time and effort into this channel! God Bless

  • @thetraditionalist
    @thetraditionalist 2 года назад +1

    another interesting denomination I ever heard

  • @hayleysutton6124
    @hayleysutton6124 2 года назад

    Great work, please consider making videos about the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches 🙏

  • @samuelaylmer804
    @samuelaylmer804 2 года назад

    Hi Joshua, since you do such good videos on different denominations, in which you detail lots of splits and mergers. It would be very interesting what denominations view on schism are, if this sort of information is available. It would be interesting to see how many churches condemn schism while actually being made from many schisms themselves.

  • @johnhedayat2444
    @johnhedayat2444 2 года назад +1

    Could you make a video about the Cumberland Presbyterian Church? It’s a small denomination mostly focused in the middle South area.

    • @ReadyToHarvest
      @ReadyToHarvest  8 месяцев назад

      Done. ruclips.net/video/9TxVfFPAAH0/видео.html

  • @mikezeke7041
    @mikezeke7041 2 года назад +5

    This is interesting

  • @sam.mead__
    @sam.mead__ Год назад

    Could you please do a video explaining what the difference is between Pentecostal, Charismatic and Evangelical? Or if a video already exists, could someone please direct me to it?

  • @Adamwrightjr
    @Adamwrightjr 2 года назад

    Hi, the Church of God (Cleveland, Tn) is currently having their general assembly and the last session is Friday, July 29th. Would you consider making a video that is an overview of updated COG doctrine and polity and maybe video highlights of the assembly/general council meetings? There has been a lot of hot, controversial questions like women in ministry, LGBTQ/pronouns, the gender identity/pronouns of God, and more.

  • @josiahroyer1062
    @josiahroyer1062 2 года назад +1

    I'd be curious to understand if this denomination tends to be dispensational. It would give a lot more context to their premil eschatology.

    • @bfcdenomination
      @bfcdenomination Год назад +1

      Good question! We do not take a stand on dispensationalism. Some of the pastors are and some are not. We really have a mix of those who hold to Dispensational Premil and others who are Historic Premillennial. Let us know if you have more questions!

    • @josiahroyer1062
      @josiahroyer1062 Год назад

      @@bfcdenomination interesting! Thanks!

  • @shamrock1961
    @shamrock1961 2 года назад +3

    So how much alcohol by volume was in the wine in Biblical times anyway? Sounds like hair splitting to me.

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 2 года назад +1

      Up to 20%, depending on type of wine. There's a reason drinking undiluted wine was considered barbaric by the Greeks.

  • @jesussaves2642
    @jesussaves2642 2 года назад +4

    Ever heard Eastern Protestant Churches? Or “Paleo-Orthodox”?

    • @slamdancer1720
      @slamdancer1720 2 года назад +1

      Eastern Rite Lutheranism sounds intriguing

    • @tonyu5985
      @tonyu5985 2 года назад +1

      Coptic Evangelical started by the Presbyterian of North America.

  • @lufknuht5960
    @lufknuht5960 Год назад

    Is there not a Fellowship Bible Church movement, begun in Dallas TX. I don't know how many churches are in that group.

  • @patcandelora8496
    @patcandelora8496 8 месяцев назад

    Is this the same group as the Canaan Christian fellowship?

  • @Hark1677
    @Hark1677 2 года назад +2

    How is their theology different, if it is at all, from Reformed Baptists?

    • @robertguidry2168
      @robertguidry2168 2 года назад

      Reformed baptists probably wouldn't be dispensation in eschatology.

    • @Hark1677
      @Hark1677 2 года назад

      @@robertguidry2168 Gotcha. Yes, the LBCF is Amil regarding eschatology. Dispensational Premil would be right out.

    • @robertguidry2168
      @robertguidry2168 2 года назад

      @@Hark1677 is classical premil a popular option as well? or are they stuanchly amil?

    • @Hark1677
      @Hark1677 2 года назад

      @@robertguidry2168The vast majority is Amil, but there are pockets of historical premil, like Spurgeon, and Postmil, Durbin and White. If you reference LBCF chapter 31, seems pretty Amil to me.

    • @bfcdenomination
      @bfcdenomination Год назад

      Regarding eschatology, the Bible Fellowship Church is premillennial, but we do not take a stand on dispensationalism. Some of our members hold to Dispensational Premillennialism and others hold to a Historic or Classic view. Let us know if you have other questions!

  • @davidsinclair47
    @davidsinclair47 2 года назад +2

    Again a lot of information in a short amount of time. A lot seems to correspond with Baptist and would be interested in a comparison. I feel that I would be comfortable in one of these churches.

    • @bfcdenomination
      @bfcdenomination Год назад

      If you have any questions, we'd be glad to answer! And if you live nearby, we'd love to have you visit to see us first hand!

    • @davidsinclair47
      @davidsinclair47 Год назад

      @@bfcdenomination
      Las Vegas, NV?

    • @ednamaurer697
      @ednamaurer697 2 месяца назад

      @@davidsinclair47 None

  • @americanswan
    @americanswan 2 года назад +1

    With maybe some cravats, their version of salvation seems very accurate.

    • @watcherwlc53
      @watcherwlc53 2 года назад +1

      Did you mean caveats? Cravats are old fashioned neckties.

  • @khawbungstorage7083
    @khawbungstorage7083 2 года назад +1

    🙏 view share the videos please we r from India northeast Reform church

  • @billyhw5492
    @billyhw5492 Год назад

    I also want to be a Swankite.

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 2 года назад +3

    0:16 How do you forbid people from praying together??
    6:25 Why do Calvinists need to recite a sinner's prayer, if God unchangeably chooses some to go to Heaven? (ISTM that Calvinism goes hand in glove with infant baptism.)

    • @Hark1677
      @Hark1677 2 года назад

      Read reformed confessions (WCF, LBCF…) Calvinists agree that you do need a conversion experience, when the sinner repents and believes in Christ.

    • @RonJohn63
      @RonJohn63 2 года назад

      @@Hark1677 what's the TL;DR version?

    • @WooperSlim
      @WooperSlim 2 года назад

      1. Really they are saying that his meetings were not sanctioned by the church. And you're right, you can't stop them, and that's why they formed a new church.
      2. After that, the video continues to explain their position on salvation.

    • @robertguidry2168
      @robertguidry2168 2 года назад

      No one needs to recite a sinners prayer to be saved. One needs to believe and proclaim Christ.

    • @Hark1677
      @Hark1677 2 года назад +1

      @@RonJohn63 God draws effectually the sinner to himself. The Holy Spirit opens his eyes to see his sin and need for a Savior. The sinner hears the Gospel and repents and believes, the Spirit regenerates him to new spiritual life and is converted.

  • @iulianpatrascu2998
    @iulianpatrascu2998 2 года назад +3

    Become Orthodox ☦️

  • @RepublicofE
    @RepublicofE 2 года назад +6

    "The verses that say Christ died for the whole world mean he died for the world in general, therefore the Bible teaches limited atonement."
    lol wut?

    • @Hark1677
      @Hark1677 2 года назад

      It works same way if you’re in a crowded restaurant with a party of 10 and say “let’s all go,” the whole restaurant doesn’t get up and leave.

    • @dman7668
      @dman7668 Год назад

      Yes Christ died for the world, but the idea that the whole world would benefit from it obviously is absurd lol.

  • @billmartin3561
    @billmartin3561 2 года назад +3

    The division in Christianity, with all of these denominations, is a big reason why people are leaving all churches in droves.