Talaria R-MX Vs. Sur-ron X | Who is KING?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Comparing the New Talaria R-MX electric dirt bike to the king of the ebikes, The Su-ron X!
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Loved my Sur Ron X for the last year or two, but I ordered, from LUNA, a Talaria 3 days ago, and a few hours ago put the Sur Ron up for sale. You are spot on with your comments on range! It's even worse when riding an electric snowbike, worse as in estimating it I mean, as besides riding style the snow conditions change everything. When asked by non riders of e bikes, or snowbikes, I use time..... "longer than I want to ride."
the new IPM motor on talaria is more efficient so the range is going to be really good
Sold! I'll will be pulling the trigger on a Talaria R tommorrow from Luna. I can't friggin wait!
I don’t think surron will do too much with the light bee as far as power upgrades. Hopefully they improve things. But because they have the ultra bee, I don’t think they need to make the light be better to compete with the talaria. Light bee is great because it weighs less then talaria and the ultra bee is better because the platform is better overall for off road. The talaria falls in the middle of the light bee and ultra bee, almost like they each have their own class. Each bike rides and feel different, but you can use them all for the same thing
Good point
@@shockadellick talaria has mtn bike forks, shock, and brakes. Talaria will never compare to an ultra bee. Even if they put out similar power, the platform for off road is much better on the ultra bee.
@@shockadellick the platform of the talaria will always be smaller and less like a traditional dirt bike then the ultra. My statement is 100% true. Still mtn bike forks that you will bottom out like fox 40s. Try putting talaria factory forks on a yz85. You’d think the 30 million dollars in R&D on the surron would show that the belt is bad idea before they went into production. Ultra bee is going to out sell and out preform the new talaria all day
@@shockadellickno matter how much money you throw at a talaria it’ll never be as light as a light bee or have the traditional dirt bike like platform of the ultra bee. The talaria is in it’s own class in between the two with its own style. They shouldn’t be compared directly
@@Zackattack94
The Light Bee is more for urban dirt bike riding or mtb bike trails. The Talaria is wired more for off-road.
The great thing about both, they equally can be used as urban dirt bikes...and that's special in its own right.
The Talaria tracks truer running through the ruff than does the lighter weight Surron. The Ron feels more like a toy compared to the Sting due to deflection. The Ron needs more weight 4 off-road.
Still would takr a Surron all day for me, first off the battery is 40ah on 2023 models (atleast in the UK) so I have zero clues how 40ah to 45ah is 20% more range? Not withstanding the fact the talaria bike chasis is physically bigger, factually heavier and the battery same again. The surron is easier to manhandle over fences, fit through gaps etc as it's physically smaller and lighter which is why I would choose this - myself being 5'6, the surron is almost perfect size & weight whereas the talaria is too big/too heavy in direct comparison, if you were going for more motorcross style then your in ultra bee territory which unfortunately the talaria can not compete nor be comoared to.
Different horses for dofferent courses is the best way to sum it up.
Awesome video, thanks for the content
You sound like a cry baby
Luna is offering free shipping right now, at least to where I live and I'm no where close to CA. I added one to cart and checked shipping. Didn't pull the trigger though.
Ordred my talaria r mx4 all the Way to denmark fred shipping also. Trust me its worth it
Did same, ALMOST clicked after adding it to my cart, but chickened out. Went back a day later and clicked, and just put my Sur Ron up for sale locally.
Great job on the video! Thanks for making it.
Thoughts on trading up from the mx3 to the mx4?
I don't have any power mods, but I did cockpit changes, 54t sprocket, 100/90-19 out back, pegs, and brace.
TBH I was thinking 60v 60ah battery and controller and I'd be good for awhile. My future plans were to buy an ultra bee and use my current sting as a guest bike.
It's not that much Luna offers free shipping right now so the surron shipped to your door is exactly 4350 Same goes for the Talaria R it's 4500 shipped.
I was having a real hard time focusing on what you were saying, having to much fun watching your race lol.
Full race is here!
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*Would be nice see side by side size comparison*
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Perfect reply haha 😂
Do you even own the new Talaria R, since it isn't shown in the video? This feels more like a sponsored video from Luna.. could you please tell if this video is sponsored or not?
No, I'm not sponsored. And the town the Talaria Sting, not the R
Luna is shipping to us for free now I think
Cool thanks mate
I order it this mornings 😀 I have both now 😳😂
Idk if I was lucky or what but when I ordered my sting r it was a flat 4500 I figured the shipping was either included in the price or free 🤷🏾♂️
How is the suspension? What weight is it good for? What brand suspension is on them? Are they adjustable? Thanks
I cant decide over the sting r, lbx, and kuberg ranger they all look good any recommendations? I want to join the kids riding there bikes x
I heard Luna’s relationship with Surron has been terminated. They’ll sell out of their remaining stock but won’t be getting anymore in. Has anyone else heard anything about that?
I'm buying a Talaria to use as my new Pool service vehicle. I'm going to need to buy a back pack.
Did the same thing3day shipping bought it from racetrack for 70dollers to my door
Ty dude hI is helps so mcy
lunacycle is a 40 min drive from my house and i already msg them...
? does your battery from sting fit in the R....your next vid please
It should
I love my Talaria Sting that I bought 6 months ago. BUT I really wish I had the new Talaria R. Kinda bummed they just now decided to make it 8000 watts. Is there a really big difference in power between the old and new?
yeah i rode my friends mx4 the other day and it feels a lot more powerful than my slightly upgraded mx3, it also feels a lot more solid when riding.,
For the American consumers which do yall prefer?
Luna cycle or ampedbikes for purchasing surron/talaria.
As a Cali resident I prefer Amped because it was tax free and free shipping, 4500 otd on the R. If you're buying a Surron I'd go Amped unless you want color then Builtebikes is the way to go. I've heard of Luna doing some shady things like shipping RSTs after people specifically made sure they would be getting a different fork.
Wait Talaria is clear winner? But you never say why
Gear box over belt, IPM 8kw motor vs pdsm 6kw motor, 60v 45ah vs 60v 38ah battery, top speed of 50-55 vs top speed of 46-47 , wider tires …… talaria 👑
Oh and price of Surron is 4500 plus shipping and talaria is 4500 free shipping
The new Talaria XXX is only 3k and only 2 mph slower with the same monster battery. It's the clear choice...😮
But no rear linkage or gearbox , and not very capable for aftermarket battery. And now it’s 3500 or almost 3700 with offroad setup
@@F1ow3rzzk Thanks for the heads up...
@@richarddonegan4666 yea Luna upped the price on them after the first batch and they charge 300 shipping on the xxx for some reason and free shipping on the mx3/mx4
I want one and iam 55 , many reasons why nose
$4570 is what I paid flat out they didn’t charge me for the shipping for it I ordered it this morning
Ordered one today and same...free shipping.
How long dose the battery last? I’m thinking of getting one and using it to go hunting, to get deeper in the wilderness faster!! And if there a way to charge it with solar panels?
Cruising is about 40 miles. Riding it hard & fast knocks it down to about 20
@@electricisbetter yea I understand that but how long does a charge last? Let’s say I go 15 miles in the backcountry and don’t ride it for a couple days, and not charge it, will the charge hold or will it have to be recharged before riding it back to my truck ?
@@Terpedup925 Lol. Yes, it will hold a charge for a very long time. A few months
How tall are you?
im so conflicted SMH i am ordering one of these next month still dont know which. (never ridden dirt bikes like these so the power not so mvch of a concern to me) jvst want to have fvn
If you go new I say talaria r it does most of what my 11k surron does at less then half the cost. If you are really short the surron might fit you better though. Used get whatever is a good deal.
i am a new rider, i mean i never own anything like that. I am short to i've tried the talaria mx3 in a store and it was just a little big. The thing is there's a big difference in price between Talaria and Surron here, about 800$, the mx4 and surron are the same price. Obviously like you said the mx4 was the best choice but is it for a short and very beginner rider?
I would certainly say the mx4 is the better/more bang for you buck. But if it's too big for you the Sur-ron might suit you better. The Sur-ron isn't as good off road & It's slightly smaller. About 2inch
@@electricisbetter thank you!
How big is the Talaria R? I'm about 5.10 to 5.11. And thinking a out getting a new one.
I'm 6'1" for reference
damn im jealous of these prices. in the UK and in germany its close to 6000€
Then buy from Luna?
@@smokesomekeefelbandido2184 I need the L1E version that is road legal with all the paperwork
@@Robbe1912 i find it in uk for 4,5-5k euro.
@@smokesomekeefelbandido2184 "Standard R L1E bike will be £5000 or £5800 with Dorado Expert" got that info straight from the manufacturer. thats a 5700€-6600€
@@Robbe1912 whats the diff from a l1e to a R l1e?
Mate,give me advice please!What should i buy Talaria Sting R or Surron Ultra bee?They have similiar price
Give or take $2k. If you have the money, I'd say the Ultra bee. If you were asking the R or the Sur-ron X, the R would be way better.
@@electricisbetter Thanks for the respond!I have the money,today i sold my Surron X,and now im twisted which to choose,the new Talaria they said that it have better mottor,give opinion friend :)
@@lyubomiryordanov9246 np. It's different comparing the R to the Ultra bee, because the ultra Bee is just a better, more power bike. More expensive or course
Ultra Bee for trails/off road, Talaria for on road/trails
is there a better battery for talaria?
Yes
The UK surron runs at 6000w not 5000 and has a 60v 40ah out the box what difference does that make to the stats?
Interesting 🤔 this is the first I've heard of this
@electricisbetter it does seem odd you guys seem to be getting the 2022 mod still my 2023 runs at 54mph on the bike but 51 on my phone would love to see I video of them head to head 😁
Some of the 2022 sur rons have the 40ah battery with 21700 cells
I have one myself
Wow, never heard of these ebikes before. Will the cops harass you for registration and insurance? I just want to ride in the mountains.
yea police is made to fk up your fun time
Your surron information is wrong and outdated. We already have new Surron models with 40Ah batteries and 6000w output. I get that the talaria is still rated higher but its not the difference you are saying in your video.
If your talking stock bike to stock bike but no one keeps the bike stock… so nope to the R I think the R top speed is 48 maybe 😂
I keep my bike stock ?
R is 55 mph, quit bullshitting
Not even comparable. Sur Ron is lighter and that’s what I’m looking for
Can i have one
Yeah 4,500$$
I'm sure they'll sell you one
Where can you buy it
@@jasirkamouni4445 message the official importer of talarias in your country, thats what i did. have to wait for the l1e version until may though.
@@jasirkamouni4445 in USA luna cycles other wise just Google it bro lol
BORING!!!! WHERE ARE THE WHEELIES!!! GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT!!!!
Yawn
Have you heard anything about the cells used in the new 45ah pack. It must be new cells. I'm wondering how much power a bypassed 45ah pack can pull, maybe 10kw bypassed??? And will this new battery fit in the original talaria sting mx3?
As far as I know the battery dimensions are the same, so the new should fit in the old bike and the old battery should fit in the new one, as well. Not sure on what cells are being used
@@electricisbetter I've seen the old battery opened up it uses lg50 cells they're 5ah a peice and 21700 cells. It wouldn't be possible to add more cells and keep the battery the same size it has to have new cells. Just wondering what they are and how well they will perform once bypassed. Might end up being true that the mx3 uses better cells idk yet. Surrons new battery has more capacity but shittier cells