@talariaboys I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on one of these and am leaning towards the Talaria but really like the Pro SS 2.0. Does the frame on the Pro SS feel like it flexes much? I'm 225lbs and am worried about that. Also, I'm going to go for a fairly big power build. Do you feel like the Pro SS can handle much more power with the belt drive?
Here in UK its almost impossible to get a 79bike or the E-Bike Pro SS unless you are happy waiting 60-90 days. So for us guys over the pond it's the talaria sting R,or Apollo RFN Rally pro (which needs upgrading) which makes it more expensive than a Suron Ultra B. I would like to see the E-Bike Pro SS WITH UPGRADES against the Suron Ultra B Stock... so evens out the cost
I live in the Netherlands, and riding my Talaria Sting R for some two weeks now, for my great pleasure The Bike is slighty different than the US model. I do have a screen like the E-ride pro, and the headlight is the same as the one as shown loose of the bikes. Im 65 years. Great Vid!
Hey guys, I just want to say thank you 4 every thing you , every morning I wake up and have my coffee and watch you guys, I was recently homeless in downtown Chicago, and making the wrong decisions for 20 years, I just recently got my act together two years ago, I almost died, my relationship with my mom is real good right now. I’m an only child I’m 37 years old and so far behind in life saved up my little money I had and spent everything on an electric scooter and then five months ago I was hit by an Amazon truck and it was totaled and was not compensated for anything because it was my fault but I thought I had something because the driver left me there. Yeah that’s right he left me there/shit and run but he said that he didn’t know I hit him because it was cargo in the back bouncing around, which was a complete lie, anyways, I don’t have anything now I’m trying to save up for a bike, just want to say thank you guys I love you guys man
You don’t know me and I don’t know you, but I love that you’ve gotten out of homelessness. Wish you continued good fortune. I’m rooting for you my friend. ❤️
I grew up being used to have under 100 in my bank account, but as I started being able to save I realized I should never spend money on something that I can't afford to replace (unless it's fully insured). If you go this route again consider some form of insurance so you might not be totally SOL if something bad happens.
I Truly hope your channel blows up with subscribers. You guys are literally doing gods work. I so appreciate the hard work you guys put in. Learned so much from you guys. Keep it up boys!!!
Wow I feel like I got a PhD in e-bikes after this video. Very comprehensive. Good job! I just bought a Talaria Sting R today. I’m 52 years old, 6 feet and 78 kg. The bike fits me perfectly. They don’t sell erides where I live but it seems like the Talaria didn’t do so badly in this showdown. Thank you for your content ❤️🙏
Since the 79 bike comes with sotion can't this be pushed to like up to 20 kw? With just changing a controller? Others would cost way more with having to upgrade motor and battery
Eride pro ss has been 4900 and free shipping at several places for over a week now. Of course I order mine a week before that started. Also talaria is currently 4200 with free shipping. Doesn't change anything as far as your scoring goes but...
It’s always been $4900 but most places charge tax and shipping and the best we’ve seen is $4900 plus $250 shipping. Talaria is $4200 but charges tax so $4500 free shipping.
Yeah, I'm still seeing free shipping several places on the eride... I live in NH so I don't have to pay taxes...anyway. Great video. You guys definitely have the best ebike channel. Love listening while I'm at work. Keep it going with the pro ss videos.
If you live at Europe it costs 5600+shipping around 400€ so total 6000€, lmao i can get surron for 3990€.... so sad they have only this one reseller at ireland..
Check out the Reride R1. 72v 35ah, top speed 55, very similar to these bikes. And only $3500 when ordered directly from China. Comparible to the Falcon
You guys inspired me to start my RUclips channel, hope one day I can start to produce videos of a similar quality or at the very least to be as informative as your videos were for me! Thanks guys will always be a subscriber 😁
Great review. One addition for the future: stealthiness. In europe they don’t want you to ride in the woods. If it looks like a mountain bike no one will stop you. If you drive a KTM freeride it obviously looks like motocross which is not allowed.
Hey guys, I’ve had my mx4 for 6 months now. Just wondering, what maintenance do I need to do on it, and what products will I need? I just wanna keep it running like brand new, like oils, lubricants, greasing parts, etc. What will I need and what should I do? Also what first upgrades do you recommend. I've had a graphics kit and light bar, but that's it. I have noticed the braking performance is not very good. Might upgrade to Shimano H03C pads or the Hope Tech E4 brakes. Not sure, just need some advice on what I should do. I'm quite a light rider too; I'm 5ft 7 and 130 pounds. I'm only 15. Cheers
I've owned the Sting R for a year now and I thought this video was fair and took lots into consideration. There will be new ebikes coming out and they are only going to get faster with more range which is what we all want. Even with these results I'd still buy my String R
Love the content! I have a talaría sting Mx4 and I love it. Strictly ride on road, there isn’t much off road options in miami. Would be nice to see videos best way to set up your bike for on road use, how to install turn signal kit (would have helped me a lot! Tire options besides the over priced super moto tires etc.keep up the great work guys!
Should have included the Surron Ultra bee because by the time you add a battery and controller plus the upgrades you already did the price are very close. Just remove the decals from the ultra and it will look as stark as the smaller bikes.
@@Talariaboys While I agree it's in a different category due to weight power and size I think it should have still been included. It's not a whole lot more than these bikes and offers a lot of great upgrades where most people would want. Brake suspension and battery. So a lot of people are still looking at it as an option when also looking at this category. I'm currently looking for a bike and the Ultra is top of my list
Have you actually ridden any of these bikes and the ultra bee? There is actually a big difference in size and weight. This video was just about comparing these similar sized and priced bikes, that’s why the talaria xxx wasn’t in there either.
@@Talariaboys What I'm try to say is I wish you had included these other bikes like the XXX light bee mx3 and ultra. While they might have slight differences in size weight and power they all pretty much occupy the same area. It could be really cool to get a comparison between all the major models out right now. Ultra bee is a little heavy at 40lbs more than a mx4 but the increased battery capacity accounts for about half that. Ebmx 57ah would make the difference only roughly 22lbs more. Also the increase size is good for taller riders and more suspension travel. And most of all is barely more money than the eride. Cheapest eride I could find was only $150 less than the ultra overseas
a little late to the party but just picked up a mx4 sting, i cut the wire and straight into a wheelie! The power is all you need and make sure to get a helmet!
I like the Sutton ultra bee is that good bike , I subscribe to your channel this morning put out good videos , my Wait is 275 and I’m 6 feet or what should I get?
I am near 70 years and 5’5 160lb looking for a lighter bike than my 230lb Yamaha XT225 in rugged hills and sand . No need for super fast. Reliable,easy handling to keep me riding. Replacement battery cost /warranty are important. Any suggestions ? Seems the talaria would be best.
Im confused on the surron and e bike brand .e bike better out of the box. But does the upgrades in the surron account for wear and tear . Like if something breaks cant you upgrade anyways ..were as the ss u have to just find parts ?
Hey would you guys be able to get hold of a coafen f80 and later an fx and range test them etc. Theyre a lot more expensive so want to know if they're worth the money. Cheers!
@@Talariaboys Cool well hopefully you do it's only bike in this class that has a self heating / cooling system for the battery which is pretty interesting! They also do a 60AH battery which is huge for a factory bike. ( Default is 48Ah for the road version)
i weigh 300 pounds (gonna start losing weight) , would a sting r or pro ss be able to hold me? i would mainly just ride trails and open roads. not really interested in jumps and all those shenanigans. Thanks!
Stock suspension ranking of all 3 = junk. Great review. Eride pro maybe be one that sticks around, many bike have come and gone, they have a great chance of staying in the market. Good work guys
Another great video. I'm going to by thr talaria. I want a quiet smooth bike for hunting. Not to worried about massive power output. But I need ride hours
So much great info and videos from you guys! Thank you! I saw your ++/+ settings on your website. I wanted to know what Alex and Reeds weights were. I was trying to setup the pressures in my EXT Ferro Forks. I'm 180/185lbs. Just trying to find that sweet spot. Thanks!
Just got my eride pro yesterday and I love it. One thing I was questioning was the foot pegs because it looks like I should have another mount to the frame but I only got the pegs with the studs on it. Is that right?
There’s a plate with holes in it for adjustments that attaches to the frame then a piece that attaches to that and Then you attach your foot peg to that piece it’s kind of small you must be missing that piece because when I ordered new foot pegs it didn’t come with them. Foot peg bracket idk what it’s called
Great vid guys! In regards to the 79 Bike, just wanted to point out that if you live in California it only takes about 6 weeks to get it. Also, shouldn’t the fact that the Falcon M comes with a name brand Sotion motor have gotten at least an honorable mention?
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lol you don't know anything about branding and chit being made in china do you?
I'm getting E Ride SS Pro today!!!! I think I'll try using Zip Ties on front Fork since no protective rings on them... What type of pro tapers grips are those? How do you like the bike after having it awhile? I might use a smaller rear wheel. Might go 21 inches up front... Thaink that would be good upgrade? Think you!! Could go 19/21 or maybe 16/19? any thoughts would be appreciated! : )
Hey guys, love the channel! I have 1 question about the eride pross. I only weigh 165lbs & the rear suspension is so stiff! Maybe im missing something but I've done all i know to soften it up & it's still too stiff so do u know how i can make this softer? Any help would be great!
@@Talariaboys sure have, I have tried everything! Do u think I should contact eride pross or do you have any idea as to what is wrong? Thanks for responding 🫡
These bikes are better than surron. if you're interested in range, check out our range test videos. we hold full throttle in sport mode and eco mode until the batteries die.
Just got my e ride pro as about 5 days ago and that thing is insane, don’t let inexperience friends try it because shit happens and your left with a broken rear fender 😭. Love everything about the bike 10/10 would recommend to anybody. One thing that does bug me tho is that everytime I hit bumps it makes a sound like something is rattling in the bottom, couldn’t find a fix anywhere , TB if you guys can help me out that would be great thanks !
I’d probably just run the Shinko 241 tire! 19x2.75 front and rear, they will just use the stock tubes as well. tbelectricmoto.com/products/talaria-sting-r-mx4-part-2?_pos=1&_psq=241&_ss=e&_v=1.0
What's the best battery to buy for talaria mx3. Mostly street riding. 70% street 30% off road. Love range and a little power. What does the talaria boys suggest 💪👍💪👍
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So anyone can chime in on this question. I have a Talaria Sting mx3. Some upgrades, but stock 60v, 38ah battery and controller. Should I sell it for around $3k, and buy an e-ride or just do a battery upgrade on the one I have?
Lots of factors to decide man, do you want more power? Or more range? Or both? Buying a battery and controller will cost you over $3k so You'd cost more than a pro ss but would have more power than it. All depnds on what you want, if you want to keep it all simple Id sell and get a pro ss.
@@Talariaboys Yeah it's tough. I was sold on the e-ride until I saw your Torp controller review. Now I'm torn again 🤣 I guess it will just depend on how bad my buddy wants to buy mine
WHats good guys... thanks for putting out all this super useful contact. I was thinking of getting a E Ride because the weight limit is greater but after hearing your 250lbs rider comment and frame flex in the E Ride. I am a avid mountain biker who freerides as well. Having one of these to jump on, do drops and ride would be awesome. I'm a 250 lbs rider. Do you think the Tallaria would be better for me than the E RIde?
I would have to disagree with the suspension and would have gave it to the Eride based on its payload capacity alone (300lbs). The sting R is (220 lbs). An 80 lbs difference: wonder which fork setup would give out sooner based on that info. I feel like this was swept under the rug and should have been included in this segment. heavier duty suspension would be better for jumps, heavy riding, more airtime. and so on.
Now that we have more time on the E-Ride it absolutely has the worst fork we have every tested, we have blown out 3 of them in only a couple hundred miles. The talaria suspension is so much better and will easily handle a heavier rider better. The Talaria doesn't really have only a 220lb weight limit
I am currently in Mexico, i couldnt order the SS pro from here! So i just ordered yesterday the sting R from Alibaba, $3900 with shipping and tax included! Lets goo! ( It comes with mirrors and screen display too )
I watch all the videos guys, great job, I'm in Scottsdale AZ thinking about opening an E bike shop. I have a quick question I was goin to see if I could get answered, and I think this is probably a super common one that many have. 1. I bought the mx4 sting r. Right out the box it's running 53mph. I'm cruising my city roads (Scottsdale AZ) and people in Arizona (& U.S. in general) drive fast almost always 10 mph over. What is the cheapest and easiest thing to do to my bike that will gain it the ability to go 60mph, so that I can stop upsetting all the Jeff Gordon's on the road?? Please and thanks guys
If you're being honest there's no bike out of the box better than the eride pross 2.0! If you're talking about upgrading the Talaria may be for you but it's going to cost a lot to make it as good or slightly better than the epro... period. It's amazing as is and upgrades will be coming
@@jaws_drinks_water389 yeah that's only if you're unfortunate enough to live in the worst state in the U.S...Cali. For everyone else it costs $5,250! I really feel bad for regular ppl in Cali and the big Dem cities... the government has y'all locked up on taxes, regulations and immigrants. But that's another story all together. I hope you love whatever bike you have and stay safe 🤜🤛
@@ziphussle disagree ...Spent 3700 for the RFN with 43ah battery and the software upgrade on the controller is on $200...that puts me in under $4K , $800 cheaper than the E-Ride
Off topic but what size sprocket do you recommend for a 200lb guy on a MX3 I ride mostly back roads and the woods (Love your videos) you guys are part of the reason I got an e bike
I can tell you aren't seasoned dirt bike riders because you overlook the importance of a good well-dialed front & rear suspension. Too much emphasis on drag strip riding.
Front and rear suspension were categories… and drag racing was an entirely different category. We mentioned in the video that each of us spent hours on each bike on the trails pushing them to see what we liked best.
Good review but the whole speed thing is a bit biased towards the Eride, yes its faster but only in a short burst and top speed is relatively similar to the Sting R, its not as dominant as this review implies its grossly exaggerated due to it being a super short race where you can use the boost function which cant even be sustained
Have you actually ridden all three? The E-ride is actually way faster all the time, we have 425 miles on ours already. We also actually didn't even use the boost button in the drag races.
@@Talariaboys I've ridden the Eride and Sting R and truthfully didnt think it was a huge difference personally, especially over longer distances also I think reliability should have been a category too imo and Talaria is the only one which has a decent history the other two are too new to comment on in that regard, You could say theres a degree of personal opinion but imo the Sting is still top dog and would have been so even in your own review if that category had been included (which I think is a fair and reasonable category to have) but yeah like I said a good review anyway
Sup guys. Everyone else i look it says the 79 Falcon weighs 130lbs, here you say it weighs 143. Thats a pretty big difference. Is it really 143 pounds???
Love your videos but I don't think you gave the eride pro ss a fair review the upgrades that has already been done from factory is pretty impressive has any other company made as many upgrades as eride did I am byest just got the new eride pro ss ride hard and stay safe
Larger spring in front forks Larger back tire cutout on battery from 4o% to 25% I'm not sure is turbo button functional now or is it decorative I'm just going bye what I saw on surronster I would like to say thanks to all of you for your videos now there calling it pro ss 2.0 witch is what have its my first ebike I've been riding dirt bikes since the 70's not too mention how good it looks next to my Harley's
I was wondering if you guys were using the e pros turbo button in the drag races and if you were, how fast do you think it would be compared to the talaria without the turbo
No we did not use the turbo button, we have the latest controller tune on our bike like they come now which basically turns off the turbo button, it still does a tiny bit when you push it but we never use it honestly. It’s just fast
@@Talariaboys obviously you can and did but the Surron is still the best selling. I'd personally buy and E Ride Pro SS but it wasn't out when I purchased by Surron.
@@Talariaboys yeah, but that's one year and because the MX4 was just released. My buddy wanted an E bike and I told him to get an MX4. I'm not sticking up for the Surron. They've become lazy with the updates because they know they have had the lion's share of the market. That's now changing with everyone else stepping up to the plate. I wouldn't doubt it if the E Ride Pro SS sells more than Surron and the MX4 this year.
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congrats on launching your e-store! I wish I lived in the US... would bring my Talarias for you to upgrade :D
That's smart af. Good job boys
@talariaboys I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on one of these and am leaning towards the Talaria but really like the Pro SS 2.0. Does the frame on the Pro SS feel like it flexes much? I'm 225lbs and am worried about that. Also, I'm going to go for a fairly big power build. Do you feel like the Pro SS can handle much more power with the belt drive?
The talaria would be a better bike and definitely better for higher power, the pro ss definitely flex’s more than the talaria
Here in UK its almost impossible to get a 79bike or the E-Bike Pro SS unless you are happy waiting 60-90 days. So for us guys over the pond it's the talaria sting R,or Apollo RFN Rally pro (which needs upgrading) which makes it more expensive than a Suron Ultra B. I would like to see the E-Bike Pro SS WITH UPGRADES against the Suron Ultra B Stock... so evens out the cost
I live in the Netherlands, and riding my Talaria Sting R for some two weeks now, for my great pleasure The Bike is slighty different than the US model. I do have a screen like the E-ride pro, and the headlight is the same as the one as shown loose of the bikes. Im 65 years. Great Vid!
Nice!
Ik rij een Sting en heb vandaag de Sting R besteld. Hoe bevalt de R?
@@David_162_ uitstekend. Kan niet anders zeggen.
You ride road legal version?
@@MEtHODiOR Sure.
I agree, 100% on the suspension. I moved my MX4 suspension to my E-Ride Pro. the fact that I can air it up really helps
Hey guys, I just want to say thank you 4 every thing you , every morning I wake up and have my coffee and watch you guys, I was recently homeless in downtown Chicago, and making the wrong decisions for 20 years, I just recently got my act together two years ago, I almost died, my relationship with my mom is real good right now. I’m an only child I’m 37 years old and so far behind in life saved up my little money I had and spent everything on an electric scooter and then five months ago I was hit by an Amazon truck and it was totaled and was not compensated for anything because it was my fault but I thought I had something because the driver left me there. Yeah that’s right he left me there/shit and run but he said that he didn’t know I hit him because it was cargo in the back bouncing around, which was a complete lie, anyways, I don’t have anything now I’m trying to save up for a bike, just want to say thank you guys I love you guys man
Good for you man! Getting out of homelessness in Chicago ain’t easy!
you probably should of just ended it. no coming back after 20 years of wasting my tax dollars you leech.
You don’t know me and I don’t know you, but I love that you’ve gotten out of homelessness. Wish you continued good fortune. I’m rooting for you my friend. ❤️
I grew up being used to have under 100 in my bank account, but as I started being able to save I realized I should never spend money on something that I can't afford to replace (unless it's fully insured).
If you go this route again consider some form of insurance so you might not be totally SOL if something bad happens.
Thanks guys I’m trying to save up for a storm bee I guess, I dunno , where u guys located at. ?
Said it perfect no other channel is doing this!!!
Keep up the gr8 work
Thanks!
Just got my Eride Pro ss yesterday for my bday today. And man, that thing is scary. The power is legit insane. I havent even messed with sport mode 😂
Does the frame feel like it flexes much? I'm 225lbs and worried about that.
@@ryantower9303 im 175 and havent noticed that at all, but ive only ridden it the past 2 days tho soo.
@@ryantower9303maybe get a normal bike first
My wife is around your weight and said it’s fricking stable and she loves it and wants one lol
@@sgaf3077 after these past couple days, im loving the bike. Ive been riding it everyday lol
I Truly hope your channel blows up with subscribers. You guys are literally doing gods work. I so appreciate the hard work you guys put in. Learned so much from you guys. Keep it up boys!!!
Thanks! We really appreciate that
Funny. I didn't hear one mention of our Messiah or the good news.
Wow I feel like I got a PhD in e-bikes after this video. Very comprehensive. Good job! I just bought a Talaria Sting R today. I’m 52 years old, 6 feet and 78 kg. The bike fits me perfectly. They don’t sell erides where I live but it seems like the Talaria didn’t do so badly in this showdown. Thank you for your content ❤️🙏
Great to hear!
Since the 79 bike comes with sotion can't this be pushed to like up to 20 kw? With just changing a controller? Others would cost way more with having to upgrade motor and battery
potentially, but its definitely dependent on the battery, we will have a video putting a controller on the 79bike soon!
The battery degradation races were very informative!
The Talaria Boys are the go-to RUclips channel for all things e-moto!
Eride pro ss has been 4900 and free shipping at several places for over a week now.
Of course I order mine a week before that started.
Also talaria is currently 4200 with free shipping.
Doesn't change anything as far as your scoring goes but...
Is that a price drop or increase for the eridepro?
It’s always been $4900 but most places charge tax and shipping and the best we’ve seen is $4900 plus $250 shipping. Talaria is $4200 but charges tax so $4500 free shipping.
Yeah, I'm still seeing free shipping several places on the eride... I live in NH so I don't have to pay taxes...anyway.
Great video. You guys definitely have the best ebike channel.
Love listening while I'm at work.
Keep it going with the pro ss videos.
Had to edit that..
My original comment was supposed to say eride is currently available with free shipping several places.
If you live at Europe it costs 5600+shipping around 400€ so total 6000€, lmao
i can get surron for 3990€.... so sad they have only this one reseller at ireland..
I would just like to say that your guys dedication is AMAZING
Thanks for the support!
Check out the Reride R1. 72v 35ah, top speed 55, very similar to these bikes. And only $3500 when ordered directly from China. Comparible to the Falcon
We have been trying to get one to review
I respect the work and they actually do stuff that matters
Appreciate it!
You guys inspired me to start my RUclips channel, hope one day I can start to produce videos of a similar quality or at the very least to be as informative as your videos were for me! Thanks guys will always be a subscriber 😁
Great review. One addition for the future: stealthiness. In europe they don’t want you to ride in the woods. If it looks like a mountain bike no one will stop you. If you drive a KTM freeride it obviously looks like motocross which is not allowed.
Hey guys, I’ve had my mx4 for 6 months now. Just wondering, what maintenance do I need to do on it, and what products will I need? I just wanna keep it running like brand new, like oils, lubricants, greasing parts, etc. What will I need and what should I do?
Also what first upgrades do you recommend. I've had a graphics kit and light bar, but that's it. I have noticed the braking performance is not very good. Might upgrade to Shimano H03C pads or the Hope Tech E4 brakes. Not sure, just need some advice on what I should do. I'm quite a light rider too; I'm 5ft 7 and 130 pounds. I'm only 15. Cheers
Hey man!
send us an email we are happy to help!
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@@Talariaboys I have just sent you 2 emails 👍🏽
I've owned the Sting R for a year now and I thought this video was fair and took lots into consideration. There will be new ebikes coming out and they are only going to get faster with more range which is what we all want. Even with these results I'd still buy my String R
Good to know
Thanks for all your testing and data 🙏👍😎
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one of the good things about the pro ss is that it comes with decent pegs but that was ignored obviously because of leveling the playing field
the E-Ride pegs are slightly better than the other 2 but still not great in our opinion. they are slightly wider but still have no grip.
Congrats on the website!!!
Thank you!!
Love the content! I have a talaría sting Mx4 and I love it. Strictly ride on road, there isn’t much off road options in miami. Would be nice to see videos best way to set up your bike for on road use, how to install turn signal kit (would have helped me a lot! Tire options besides the over priced super moto tires etc.keep up the great work guys!
How does the SS stack up against the Surron?
ERide Pro SS all day baby!
It’s a beast!
@@Talariaboys IMO the aftermarket for ERide is gonna grow to be larger than surron eventually.
@@cingkole7893how the hell would that happen? Surron has a 6 year head-start.
@@mct8888 growth
@@mct8888 no one gives a fk about your dmb response
Should have included the Surron Ultra bee because by the time you add a battery and controller plus the upgrades you already did the price are very close. Just remove the decals from the ultra and it will look as stark as the smaller bikes.
It’s a totally different category of bike man, it’s significantly bigger and way heavier, that’s why it wasn’t compared.
@@Talariaboys How did I know you would say that and I don't agree. Not that much bigger with the same size wheels.
@@Talariaboys While I agree it's in a different category due to weight power and size I think it should have still been included. It's not a whole lot more than these bikes and offers a lot of great upgrades where most people would want. Brake suspension and battery. So a lot of people are still looking at it as an option when also looking at this category. I'm currently looking for a bike and the Ultra is top of my list
Have you actually ridden any of these bikes and the ultra bee? There is actually a big difference in size and weight.
This video was just about comparing these similar sized and priced bikes, that’s why the talaria xxx wasn’t in there either.
@@Talariaboys What I'm try to say is I wish you had included these other bikes like the XXX light bee mx3 and ultra. While they might have slight differences in size weight and power they all pretty much occupy the same area. It could be really cool to get a comparison between all the major models out right now. Ultra bee is a little heavy at 40lbs more than a mx4 but the increased battery capacity accounts for about half that. Ebmx 57ah would make the difference only roughly 22lbs more. Also the increase size is good for taller riders and more suspension travel. And most of all is barely more money than the eride. Cheapest eride I could find was only $150 less than the ultra overseas
a little late to the party but just picked up a mx4 sting, i cut the wire and straight into a wheelie! The power is all you need and make sure to get a helmet!
Nice!
Cut the wire?
Great review man appreciate the time and effort you put into this video !!!
thx 🙏
I like the Sutton ultra bee is that good bike , I subscribe to your channel this morning put out good videos , my Wait is 275 and I’m 6 feet or what should I get?
Yes the ultra bee would be great for you
The glazing is crazy
Glazing what bike exactly
I am near 70 years and 5’5 160lb looking for a lighter bike than my 230lb Yamaha XT225 in rugged hills and sand . No need for super fast. Reliable,easy handling to keep me riding. Replacement battery cost /warranty are important. Any suggestions ? Seems the talaria would be best.
yea talaria would be a great pick (mx4)
Im confused on the surron and e bike brand .e bike better out of the box. But does the upgrades in the surron account for wear and tear . Like if something breaks cant you upgrade anyways ..were as the ss u have to just find parts ?
Hey would you guys be able to get hold of a coafen f80 and later an fx and range test them etc.
Theyre a lot more expensive so want to know if they're worth the money.
Cheers!
Maybe in the future, but we don't have plans with that bike atm
@@Talariaboys Cool well hopefully you do it's only bike in this class that has a self heating / cooling system for the battery which is pretty interesting! They also do a 60AH battery which is huge for a factory bike. ( Default is 48Ah for the road version)
i weigh 300 pounds (gonna start losing weight) , would a sting r or pro ss be able to hold me? i would mainly just ride trails and open roads. not really interested in jumps and all those shenanigans. Thanks!
The sting R would definitely be a better option for you. It’s heavier and stronger. The suspension is also stronger
@@Talariaboysbesides the rear spring , any other upgrades you'd recommend for my weight?
@@Talariaboys Really? The Sting R is rated for 250lbs max rider weight, the Pro SS is rated for 300lbs..
Stock suspension ranking of all 3 = junk. Great review. Eride pro maybe be one that sticks around, many bike have come and gone, they have a great chance of staying in the market. Good work guys
The stock suspension on all these bikes is much better than the Surron and sting mx3 used to come with!
@@Talariaboys thats good for the ones not getting into the bike. Nice work guys
Another great video. I'm going to by thr talaria. I want a quiet smooth bike for hunting. Not to worried about massive power output. But I need ride hours
You'll love it!
Should I get xxx or eride pro s
So much great info and videos from you guys! Thank you! I saw your ++/+ settings on your website. I wanted to know what Alex and Reeds weights were. I was trying to setup the pressures in my EXT Ferro Forks. I'm 180/185lbs. Just trying to find that sweet spot. Thanks!
Alex weighs around 165 lbs and Reed weighs around 180lbs Alex likes the fork slightly stiffer and Reed likes it very plush
def getting tires and bars if i win that mx5
Are they street legal?
What’s a good super moto version of these? Just change the tires?
Not street legal, Just change the tires
Great work fellas!!
Much appreciated!
Which exact pillow top grips are those I can’t find the black ones
Where are you looking at them?
@@Talariaboys Amazon they only have the black grip then the inner part is gray.
I wish the pro SS came to the UK
Just got my eride pro yesterday and I love it. One thing I was questioning was the foot pegs because it looks like I should have another mount to the frame but I only got the pegs with the studs on it. Is that right?
What do you mean? Can you explain in more detail?
There’s a plate with holes in it for adjustments that attaches to the frame then a piece that attaches to that and Then you attach your foot peg to that piece it’s kind of small you must be missing that piece because when I ordered new foot pegs it didn’t come with them. Foot peg bracket idk what it’s called
Great vid guys! In regards to the 79 Bike, just wanted to point out that if you live in California it only takes about 6 weeks to get it. Also, shouldn’t the fact that the Falcon M comes with a name brand Sotion motor have gotten at least an honorable mention?
lol you don't know anything about branding and chit being made in china do you?
yes, we definitely should have gave the 79 bike an honorable mention for the sotion motor.
I'm getting E Ride SS Pro today!!!! I think I'll try using Zip Ties on front Fork since no protective rings on them... What type of pro tapers grips are those? How do you like the bike after having it awhile? I might use a smaller rear wheel. Might go 21 inches up front... Thaink that would be good upgrade? Think you!! Could go 19/21 or maybe 16/19? any thoughts would be appreciated! : )
Hey guys, love the channel! I have 1 question about the eride pross. I only weigh 165lbs & the rear suspension is so stiff! Maybe im missing something but I've done all i know to soften it up & it's still too stiff so do u know how i can make this softer? Any help would be great!
I'm surprised it feels really stiff for you, have you changed the preload and other settings?
@@Talariaboys sure have, I have tried everything! Do u think I should contact eride pross or do you have any idea as to what is wrong? Thanks for responding 🫡
can you cut the governor on the falcon
it doesn't come with a governor.
im 5' 5". is the talaria really that big? how would it be for me? have to flat foot one side only and both feet down would be tippy toeing?
You would still fit ok
Do you know what seats will fit on the Eride pro ss? I’m 6’3 220 and the stock one is just not comfortable
Not sure. I agree that seat is uncomfortable. Someone needs to come out with a better option.
Is the bike an OK height for you? I had original SURRON and sold as felt too small.
How did you NOT test range? And throw the surron in the mix too!?
These bikes are better than surron. if you're interested in range, check out our range test videos. we hold full throttle in sport mode and eco mode until the batteries die.
@@Talariaboys I’m not saying they aren’t: just would of been nice to include the OG with the most aftermarket support that’s all
Hey guys can you test out the new 2024 talaria R theres a new logo on the motor and stuff but I still don't know if it has fixes or power changes
It’s identical. No changes besides cosmetic.
@@Talariaboys My friend recently bought one but i felt that the eco was a lot stronger than the 2023
Past CRF250 trail rider doing research on this eMoto phenomenon. I like what I see and hoping you do a similar comparison with the new MX5.
Coming soon!
Just got my e ride pro as about 5 days ago and that thing is insane, don’t let inexperience friends try it because shit happens and your left with a broken rear fender 😭. Love everything about the bike 10/10 would recommend to anybody. One thing that does bug me tho is that everytime I hit bumps it makes a sound like something is rattling in the bottom, couldn’t find a fix anywhere , TB if you guys can help me out that would be great thanks !
185
@Talariaboys What bike stand is that in the middle that the Eride is on?
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-scissor-lift-stand-p
I'm new to this, what do you recommend for a street tire ?
What bike do you have? Do you want a 100% on road tire or more of a dual sport that works well all around?
@Talariaboys dual sport, I'd like to take it to work. My work is a 30-minute drive 15 miles on the road. Also I live in Clovis, California
I’d probably just run the Shinko 241 tire! 19x2.75 front and rear, they will just use the stock tubes as well. tbelectricmoto.com/products/talaria-sting-r-mx4-part-2?_pos=1&_psq=241&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Awesome video
At 6-4” Would I be too tall for the SS? If so is there something I could easily do to make it fit me?
You’d be a little big bit Lance is 6’3 and fits ok, you’d want a tall riser stem and bar and some good tires and pegs and you’d be fine!
@@Talariaboysthanks!
Rawrr Mantis 72 V. ...bigger chassis
Is it possible to upgrade the eride pro ss belt assembly to a gearbox? Possible to use Talaria parts? Thanks -Mike
not that I know of
Have you tried running the rear 19” tires on the front for a little more beef in the front? Like the Tusk for example?
You could do that if you wanted but the front tusk tire works great so we haven’t felt the need to
I just ordered some hand guards from you. Congrats on the new store.
How do you turn the lights on when they don't come with a switch?
Add a light switch tbelectricmoto.com/search?type=product&q=Light+switch
What's the best battery to buy for talaria mx3. Mostly street riding. 70% street 30% off road. Love range and a little power. What does the talaria boys suggest 💪👍💪👍
Do you have an upgraded controller or just stock?
@@Talariaboys I have the torp tc500 thanks to you guys
Where can i buy an Eride pro ss 2.0 ?? Not sure which website to use to purchase
Purchase the E-Ride Pro Here, It's the best deal we have found: ⬇️⬇️
$4899+$250 shipping = $5149
revrides.com/products/e-ride-pro-ss-2024-model?sca_ref=5922478.jegxmDeYAL&sca_source=Rev Rides
@@Talariaboys you guys have a new loyal Subscriber 🤟🏾🤟🏾
So anyone can chime in on this question. I have a Talaria Sting mx3. Some upgrades, but stock 60v, 38ah battery and controller. Should I sell it for around $3k, and buy an e-ride or just do a battery upgrade on the one I have?
Lots of factors to decide man, do you want more power? Or more range? Or both? Buying a battery and controller will cost you over $3k so You'd cost more than a pro ss but would have more power than it. All depnds on what you want, if you want to keep it all simple Id sell and get a pro ss.
@@Talariaboys Yeah it's tough. I was sold on the e-ride until I saw your Torp controller review. Now I'm torn again 🤣
I guess it will just depend on how bad my buddy wants to buy mine
Ya man, that Torp controller makes a much bigger difference on the mx4 battery though. The mx3 doesn’t change near as much.
can you ride these daily ?
absolutely!
Can you guys please make a video on maintenance for the E Ride Pro SS
We should, good idea
@@Talariaboys that would be sweeet!
WHats good guys... thanks for putting out all this super useful contact. I was thinking of getting a E Ride because the weight limit is greater but after hearing your 250lbs rider comment and frame flex in the E Ride. I am a avid mountain biker who freerides as well. Having one of these to jump on, do drops and ride would be awesome. I'm a 250 lbs rider. Do you think the Tallaria would be better for me than the E RIde?
Id personally take a Tallaria for the stronger frame and suspension. If you put a controller on, it'll have the same power as the Eride...
@@Talariaboys thanks so much
I would have to disagree with the suspension and would have gave it to the Eride based on its payload capacity alone (300lbs). The sting R is (220 lbs). An 80 lbs difference: wonder which fork setup would give out sooner based on that info. I feel like this was swept under the rug and should have been included in this segment. heavier duty suspension would be better for jumps, heavy riding, more airtime. and so on.
Now that we have more time on the E-Ride it absolutely has the worst fork we have every tested, we have blown out 3 of them in only a couple hundred miles. The talaria suspension is so much better and will easily handle a heavier rider better. The Talaria doesn't really have only a 220lb weight limit
I am currently in Mexico, i couldnt order the SS pro from here! So i just ordered yesterday the sting R from Alibaba, $3900 with shipping and tax included! Lets goo! ( It comes with mirrors and screen display too )
Congrats dude you will love it!
I watch all the videos guys, great job, I'm in Scottsdale AZ thinking about opening an E bike shop.
I have a quick question I was goin to see if I could get answered, and I think this is probably a super common one that many have.
1. I bought the mx4 sting r. Right out the box it's running 53mph. I'm cruising my city roads (Scottsdale AZ) and people in Arizona (& U.S. in general) drive fast almost always 10 mph over.
What is the cheapest and easiest thing to do to my bike that will gain it the ability to go 60mph, so that I can stop upsetting all the Jeff Gordon's on the road?? Please and thanks guys
Really to get this bike to go 60 mph your going to need a new controller and even a new battery.
@@Talariaboys If I get the torp 500 controller and throw it on my stock 60v 45ah (43.5ah) battery would that get me to 60mph?
If you're being honest there's no bike out of the box better than the eride pross 2.0! If you're talking about upgrading the Talaria may be for you but it's going to cost a lot to make it as good or slightly better than the epro... period. It's amazing as is and upgrades will be coming
Yea but with tax and shipping it cost $6800
@@jaws_drinks_water389 yeah that's only if you're unfortunate enough to live in the worst state in the U.S...Cali. For everyone else it costs $5,250! I really feel bad for regular ppl in Cali and the big Dem cities... the government has y'all locked up on taxes, regulations and immigrants. But that's another story all together. I hope you love whatever bike you have and stay safe 🤜🤛
No Rawrr Mantis?
Nope
Erode on top baby
you forgetting a verry capable bike - Apollo RFN Ares Rally pro. With new software is a beast, plus 43Ah battery
still spending $6k and another $3k to get the same as a $5k stock bike E ride 2.0 wins every time
Apollo is terrible quality
@@ziphussle disagree ...Spent 3700 for the RFN with 43ah battery and the software upgrade on the controller is on $200...that puts me in under $4K , $800 cheaper than the E-Ride
@@fallflightretrievers2578 the 2024 RFN is $4799 - $5300 plus tax and shipping… with a top speed of 46 mph cut it out
@@fallflightretrievers2578 and you still have to upgrade no matter what price but there is no bike on the internet for $3700
We need your opinion about the new Apollo RFN 2024 with 72v and 43ah
One day!
I would really like to see you review the Rerode R1, have you seen this new e moto?
Yea we are trying but can’t get ahold of the company
Based on the vid it looks like you’re in Utah. Where do you recommend riding?
yep we are in Utah, you should ride at the Delle, Knolls, Ben Lomond in Ogden, or if you like track ride at the Jordan River OHV
How do I get e ride pro to the netherlands?
🤷
Are they legal to ride in Sacramento?
No
Do a review on the goat motor's Dirt Goat. Looks pretty good. Wonder a professional's input like you.
I'll take a surron
Off topic but what size sprocket do you recommend for a 200lb guy on a MX3 I ride mostly back roads and the woods
(Love your videos) you guys are part of the reason I got an e bike
I’d go to maybe a 52 tooth. If you go to big you’ll lose a lot of top speed and make the throttle really jumpy
Best recommendation for 260 pound rider?
Talaria Sting! Has the sturdiest frame and suspension
@@Talariaboys thanks!
Big W review
Thanks!
how does surron not compete with these... i don't get it🤷♀
Any word on a Talaria MX5?
Not anytime soon
So the Ultra Bee is the winner?
Nope, we didn't have it in this comparison because its really in a whole different size class. Its 40-50lbs heavier and larger compared to these.
@@Talariaboys but is it better? At 6"2' and 240 thats what I"m thinking? Great comparo anyways.
Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
I can tell you aren't seasoned dirt bike riders because you overlook the importance of a good well-dialed front & rear suspension. Too much emphasis on drag strip riding.
Front and rear suspension were categories… and drag racing was an entirely different category. We mentioned in the video that each of us spent hours on each bike on the trails pushing them to see what we liked best.
I’m deciding which one to buy tbh
Nice! They are all good choices
get the sting r
Good review but the whole speed thing is a bit biased towards the Eride, yes its faster but only in a short burst and top speed is relatively similar to the Sting R, its not as dominant as this review implies its grossly exaggerated due to it being a super short race where you can use the boost function which cant even be sustained
Have you actually ridden all three? The E-ride is actually way faster all the time, we have 425 miles on ours already. We also actually didn't even use the boost button in the drag races.
@@Talariaboys I've ridden the Eride and Sting R and truthfully didnt think it was a huge difference personally, especially over longer distances also I think reliability should have been a category too imo and Talaria is the only one which has a decent history the other two are too new to comment on in that regard, You could say theres a degree of personal opinion but imo the Sting is still top dog and would have been so even in your own review if that category had been included (which I think is a fair and reasonable category to have) but yeah like I said a good review anyway
You should do the with the new rawrr mantis 72v and the new rawrr mantis x
Maybe one day.
I LIKE LANCES HAT! 😎
EBMX For the Win
you boys gonna get a stark varg?
Probably not, we aren’t good enough to really rip it haha! And we enjoy the small bike for what they are
@@Talariaboys I totally understand, I like the use of probably in there though
Sup guys. Everyone else i look it says the 79 Falcon weighs 130lbs, here you say it weighs 143. Thats a pretty big difference. Is it really 143 pounds???
Ya its really that heavy, its a pretty beefy frame and we have weighed it 3 times on 2 different scales and it just feels heavier anyway.
Love your videos but I don't think you gave the eride pro ss a fair review the upgrades that has already been done from factory is pretty impressive has any other company made as many upgrades as eride did I am byest just got the new eride pro ss ride hard and stay safe
What upgrades does it have over the talaria Besides the ones we mentioned?
Larger spring in front forks Larger back tire cutout on battery from 4o% to 25% I'm not sure is turbo button functional now or is it decorative I'm just going bye what I saw on surronster I would like to say thanks to all of you for your videos now there calling it pro ss 2.0 witch is what have its my first ebike I've been riding dirt bikes since the 70's not too mention how good it looks next to my Harley's
landmoto is the new king
Gotta admit the fun factor runs out rather quickly on these without gearing like dirtbikes
These bikes have tons of torque and go over 50 mph. They are just different than dirt bikes
I was wondering if you guys were using the e pros turbo button in the drag races and if you were, how fast do you think it would be compared to the talaria without the turbo
No we did not use the turbo button, we have the latest controller tune on our bike like they come now which basically turns off the turbo button, it still does a tiny bit when you push it but we never use it honestly. It’s just fast
You can't do this kind of comparison without the Surron.
Yes we can
@@Talariaboys obviously you can and did but the Surron is still the best selling. I'd personally buy and E Ride Pro SS but it wasn't out when I purchased by Surron.
Actually just so you know the Talaria Sting Mx4 outsold the surron lbx in 2023
The Surron LBX is more comparable to an MX3. Surron hasn’t really updated it for 5 years. It just can’t compete.
@@Talariaboys yeah, but that's one year and because the MX4 was just released. My buddy wanted an E bike and I told him to get an MX4. I'm not sticking up for the Surron. They've become lazy with the updates because they know they have had the lion's share of the market. That's now changing with everyone else stepping up to the plate. I wouldn't doubt it if the E Ride Pro SS sells more than Surron and the MX4 this year.