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[3.4] 7 Small Details You Might Miss in "Echoes of the Heart" Teaser (Genshin Impact)
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2023
- Analysis of "Echoes of the Heart" Story Teaser.
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Ping has Guizhong in her Adept Name: Streetward Rambler in Chinese (歌塵浪市) translates more literally to “Sing the Dust; Wander the City”. In Taoism a lifetime is called “a Dust” (一塵).
What mean of dust in Chinese ? Good or bad preference
@@ronnachaiaramraks3336 for me, dust in Chinese should mean neutral and can be use the describe how insignificant a thing is
@@fmwc2144 Thank you very much , it feel like in Buddhist teaching to let thing go nothing stand still , but Madame ping just kept this not let it go. Deep meanings
Wandering Dust Singer lmao
@@angela.luntian Your translation is more accurate,
Ge in here also includes meaning of lyrics, sound of instruments.
Dust in here also includes meaning of mortal world, city, life.
I really like how they made honkai like "let's make a sad story" and then on genshin "hey let's make another sad story but as the past"
Yeahh but...., archon quests also got more depressing with each update
or it's just the beginning of things to come
past stories in genshin are much more fun cuz we get to see an animation like this 🤌🏻❤️
@@kumorikaigarzlmlni7518 pal it’s only gonna get sadder from here on out I feel
YEP genshin is really like the first 3 years of honkai release, it's a set up for a more depressing story.
1:37 - This is fitting with the Jade Sword's flavor text. When Ghuizhong died, "black dust chocked the heavens and mountain splintered". And Rex Lapis called the Yakshas to avoid the miasma staining the air, but also allowing Ghuizhong's passing more peacefully.
Just on different note, there was a different version of the video earlier, which said that what the yaksha’s were containing was the entity that killed Quizhong. So, now I’m just confused on what/who made Quizhong die.
@@Spookypikachuu never is a strong word Hoyoverse probably has that story planned already but waiting for the perfect time to release it. Who knows might end up being tied with Zhongli's part 3 quest if he gets another or Xiao's part 2 since it's heavily connected to them
おそらく、Jade Cutterのフレーバーテキスト中の「erstwhile friends」という単語はAzdahaの事を指していると思われます。
@@Spookypikachuu its her own people. its on zhongli's story quest. her people kills guizhong because they hate weak gods or sumting like that, said some scholar that is studying it. but zhongli denies that scholar and corrected it, says, guizhong sacrifices herself so that her people wont be targeted anymore bcus of archon war
@@zollen_boyyy6419 uhh dude that was havria the goddess of salt not guizhong.
Streetward Rambler and Guizhong were very close. Another evidence of her grief is that she never played the melody for Guizhong again after she completed it, mentioning it that after the person most attuned to her soul died, noone else would ever understand it.
someone speculated the guizhong lullaby aka lover's oath is the same tune ping plays lol
The zither sound the same as i remember, but where are those who understand it.
The Chinese translation also uses a character that is used to refer to something that goes beyond platonic or romantic relationships, apparently something like soulmates. So yea they were closer than you can imagine haha
Streetward rambler is Madame Ping right?
@@matteotheodoreyugilombardi4325 yep!
This story might be based on an ancient Chinese tale "知音(Zhiyin)". Boya and Ziqi were close friends. Boya played his qin, and Ziqi always knew what Boya wanted to express through his sound. After Ziqi died, Boya broke his qin and said "Now, no one is enough to listen to my music." It is similar to how Ping stopped playing music because of Guizhong's death.
I'm quite sure that Zhiyin is indeed the term used in the Chinese text, because in the Korean translation also uses the same term.
You are right. When Cloud Retainer was quoting what Streetward Rambler had said about the melody she played only once, the Chinese text is “琴弦未斷,知音已逝 (Qin string yet to break; Zhiyin already gone)”, a poetic reference to the tale of Boya and Ziqi.
So what does Madame Ping play now? The pong?
On the part of the god's death, it also shows how much damage it cause even for a minor god in the story of the salt god where everyone in the vicinity was turn to salt statue when the god was killed.
her people couldn't take an L, so she showed them what they had left: salt
Meanwhile Chad consecrated beasts:- Everything that doesn't kill me makes me stronger😎
This is the same soulmate reference during archipelago with Xinyan and Kazuha. They understandstand each other and connected through music. Xinyan song she was working had blazing trails in its lyrics referencing the her island domain in archipelago last year. The collaboration name "Blaze Lilly's" reference to the sentient flower she met there. She was able to write it cause the people around her understood her soul. Just like Madame Ping until Guizhong died. As artist it's nice to share something with someone who understands you on a deeper level. If that person dies or betrays you that can strip you on a soul level cause attachment and trust is involved.That's why it's crazy how people got mad over the mentions of soulmate, or kindred spirits with these pairings. Both have a beautiful meaning, being an artist I understood what Hoyo was trying to convey with both stories. Unfortunately, All people really care about are just surface levels of shipping and fighting over "whose the best". Anyway, This was a great video analysis.
It's funny because the moment I finished watching the cutscene, I also could see real implications of kindred spirits and the soul of the company passing on.
But the second after that, I was sure someone would ship them to the bitter end. Not only that, I'm sure they'll also start shipping Ping with Cloud retainer because shipping communities bad apples seem to have a fetish on trauma bonding and angst
@@kurodo9926 preach!!
@@kurodo9926 💯
Well said! 👏
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1:28 even though rex lapis is facing backwards, i can already imagine him having a straight face but crying deep inside in that moment. It must be really painful to him to see his best friend died.
A great cutscene to present bits and pieces of history. Also, a reminder that it's from Cloud Retainer's POV, and it was focusing more on the impact of Guizhong's death on Ping. So no need to conclude the story and think that's all there to it. It makes some things clear, but still lefts a lot unanswered. Rex Lapis was always a judge in the quarrels of other Adepti because he is the prime Adeptus. Although it doesn't explain the forming of the GuiLi plains and the Pledge of Guizhong and Rex Lapis, I'm sure we'll see more of it in the future. After all, the cutscene wasn't about the GuiLi plains.
Yeah guizhong story from zhongli pov was so sad
Guili plains was former Guizhong's home, period
@@brezzendorf it was everyone's (i mean the adepti that followed zhong and gui and their people) home until the archon war drove them and thier people south
@@airmelted yeah it was their domain pre and during arch war
Morax assassinated Guizhong cuz she had gained forbidden knowledge.
Oh my God you’ve got such a sharp eye, I wasn’t even noticing anything else let alone the yakshas were there
It was kinda obv that there were there tho
They were the one people I noticed lmao i only noticed zhongli after that
At 0:32 you can see Zhongli and Guizhong wearing the same hairclip on their hair but with a different color. Guizhong’s is green and Zhongli’s is gold.
Almost every romance, if not all, of Genshin is pure head canons. Hoyo hasn't confirmed anything. Apart from that, this cutscene was heart-breaking. It was told from Cloud Retainer's pov so there are likely to be things unexplained
So far, from what we knows, each region(faction) have more than one god in the past. In Mondstadt, they have Andrius and Barbatos. In Liyue, they have Morax, Marchosias and Haagentus. In Inazuma, they have Ei and Makoto. In Sumeru they have Rukhadevata, Scarlet King and goddess of flower.
even more than that, they die a lot after war between god ( the principle force them to do so, as I remember) and only 7 gods survive to rule 7 nation. After ordering 7 gods to deal with Khaeriah the Principle fall asleep up to now ( 500 years pass from that event ).
In mondstadt they had the god of time istaroth and storms decarabian, 4 .
mondstadt had decarabian as well
@@tulayyildiz6993 Venti and Andrius are fighting against Decarabian so I didn't count him as the same camp. As for Istaroth, she also have relationship with Makoto from Inazuma and maybe with other god too so I didn't include her as from Mondstadt only
@@pyrite2060 I didn't count god that not on the same group. That's why I didn't include Decarabian in Mondstadt, Havria (she's not fighting against Morax and other but she's not in the same camp as them either) in Liyue and Orobashi from Inazuma.
three other things you may not have noticed: guizhong and zhongli have matching hair clips. Guizhong's is on the side of her head, while zhonglis is holding up his rat tail (?).
Guizhong and Ping are implied to parallel/reflect on venti and xiao, seeing as the endless suffering came out just before that cutscene. it's also said that venti visited an adeptus abode (assumably xiao) and ping asked tubby to create the mondstadt mansion for him. Considering the story regarding them and Dvorak, it's very likely that this was supposed to reflect on how history is repeating itself, hinting to another venti and xiao death flag. also xiao is now presumed to be older than venti due to the seal cutscene.
and lastly, the fact that zhongli has no lines in the cutscene at all. its about Guizhong's relationships, yet only cloud Retainer and ping speak about it. Its meant to once again represent his erosion and loss of loved one's, as he watches it go by again without saying a word.
@Aneki Ryota exactly.
Venti is a wind spirit so it's possible that he is older than xiao cause barbatos as we know was seeing around 2700 years ago so it's possible that actually venti is older but you could also be right
Venti is actually older. I don't know why people keeps mistake the fact that he is one of the originals archons. And was alive during the archon war while Xiao was created after the war.
venti might be younger, but barbstos obviously older than xiao mate
Venti never visited xiao because a) yaksha are no adepti (his whole chasm quest was about humans confusing him with), b) why would venti, they arent even friends (as you see from voice lines and upcoming lantern rite). Can be anyone, cloud retainer, ganyu, yanfei but likely zhongli since its only canon person venti meets private (several hoyo official arts). Its riddle for me how fandom Always interpretes xiao and venti being besties while they barely care (xiao cares for the music only, venti cares for everyone equally). Heck read faruzans vision Lore thats even almost venti shipping and people ignore that XD
I wonder if we'll see guizhong's sealed remnants sometime in the game?
"Memory of Dust" rerun? :D
@@DramaticCrossroad ohh that was a hint afterall...
Sealed Remnants? If you are talking about her descendants, I feared that her and Zhongli's people combined to form Guili Assembly.
But that meteor that Zhongli always throws to his enemies probably concealed her last conciousness for Zhongli if he managed to unlock it. So far, he hadn't any leads on how to solve it. Idk, he is wise and smart like Guizhong but even he can't solve it.
Ningguang ascend to 5 star, when?
Also the Bell that we see Guizhong make is the same bell we use in the Cleansing Ritual in Liyue's Archon quest.
Yes... that wasn't really hidden
It was mentioned in the gameplay tho
The story still feel its missing a lot. I believe their story doesnt end there yet. We still have to witness the birth of Liyue and the creation of Guili Assembly and most importantly, how Guizhong died... In the lore said that Zhongli and Guizhong were alone at her final moments.
One of the most popular theory is Guizhong was corrupted by black alchemy (Art of Khemia or probably something else that she wasnt supposed to see). Zhongli and Guizhong killing each other and the rest is history. The cutscene turned her into a petrified rock but in MoD description, Guizhong turned into finest dust. I believe there is something more that Cloud Retainer, Streetward Rambler and other adepti didnt know and Zhongli is probably the only one who knew the truth.
Archon War is a very mysterious event and anything could go wrong given that the Heavenly Principles and Celestia arent trustworthy.
Zhong li also said that are some Truths from different perspective. So I guess we will explore more of Guizhong and possibly with Zhong li in the future? I am looking forward to those.
The guizhong petrification couldve broken down to turn into dust. Id imagine she was sealed to disallow god residue from ruining the entire nation
So true. Not to mention she died in the sea of glaze lilies.
Wrong archons aren't trustworthy
You are eating out of the palm of there hand rn watch it take a 360
I don’t think so. Didn’t the war with kan happen only 500 years prior while the archon war happened thousands of years prior? Kan probably wasn’t even around yet.
Just some interesting trivia and lore coming out of this event and everyone seeing similarities between Guizhong and Ping as Sushang and Fuhua from Honkai.
In one of Sushang's moves in Honkai she says "万剑归终" "Wan Jian Gui Zhong" "10 Thousand Swords Return to the End". This is a reference to the most powerful Wuxia martial arts move "万佛朝宗" "Wan Fo Chao Zong" "Convergence of 10 Thousand Buddhas".
The interesting lore here is Wan Jian *Gui Zhong*/ 归终, Sushang straight up name dropping Guizhong. Gui Zhong is Ping's old rival in Genshin. If Ping derives from Fu Hua, then Guizhong being Sushang makes sense as Fuhua and Sushang are also rivals.
The final battle ground that Guizhong took part in flattened and turned a mountain range into the Guili Plains. Guizhong's death turned the mountain range into dust like how Havria turned everyone into salt.
Guili plains is named after Gui from Guizhong(Return to the End) and Li from Zhongli(Time Left), it means Return and Leave, the last place they met and left each other forever. The puzzle(meteor) is Guizhong's last gift to him and he remembers her with it.
Love the trivia, it feels like a extension of this video.
No, 万剑归宗 is not reference from other wuxia, its itself one powerful wuxia move..This is created long before Honkai
@@lolypoppp7 Wuxia is too vast, 万剑归宗 is from 风云, which is pretty new in the history of Wuxia.
Jin Yong is the grandfather of modern Wuxia and inspired everything that came after it, he created 万佛朝宗, 万剑归宗 itself is a reference to it.
This is very likely because it compliments word to word like a 对联.
@@anekiryota6049 Guili is a thematic name, where it's not named because the inhabitants in the universe knows about these characters, but a name in the universe that carries extra meaning for the audience.
Guili can be read in 2 ways, "Return and Leave" or "The place where Gui(Return) Left. It is thematically named for us to recognise as the place where Guizhong left and Zhongli last saw her.
I had discussions some where else and what's clear is that Guili Assembly was flattened in the area and mountains surrounding Guili was carved away within a blast radius as seen in the cinematic. How mountainous the region actually was is unknown, but there was a blast radius where everything was turned to dust.
Guizhong and Ping are stated in dialogue by Cloud Retainer as rivals at least in English. Guizhong and Ping had a friendly rivalry where they argued the meaning of music and along with Cloud Retainer their abilities in technology and combat.
@@anekiryota6049 Zhongli is not a new name. He literally said by himself that his name in mortal form goes by "Zhongli"
"They were more than two allied gods--they were best friends."
Ah yes. I remember the internet mockery of "they were best friends".
"They were good friends"
-People talking about canonically dating/married characters
@Aneki Ryota yes, you're absolutely right. Usually, hyv will state in canon with heterosexual couples such as King Deshret and the Goddess of Flowers being lovers, but bc of censorship and stuff, they can't do that with mlm/wlw couples (like the implied guizhong/madame ping)
@@castallyourspells I don't think they were hinting at anything for Guizhong and Ping. I definitely think they do do that, (like Beidou and Nigguangg) but specifically in this case this story felt more like a Xingqui and Chongyun case. It could be taken in a relationship kind of light but the the story itself really makes them feel simply like best friends.
Male friendship, they were best friends, mxm shippers be like no they are lovers.
Guizhong and Zhongli confirmed to be best friends, mxm be like yeah they are only friends.
@@lyarogers6101 I mean... read into it as you will. it IS canon that Ping and Guizhong are soulmates though (whether it be platonic or romantic) Also, while I don't ship Xingqiu and Chongyun, there is a lot of subtext between those two, so I respectfully disagree.
Idk if it's fitting to say Ping is the most affected by her death since Zhongli as a character was also greatly affected by how he changed and the great lengths he went to to understand humanity, they were both affected a great deal.
yeah, it is mentioned in one of the book (iirc) that Zhongli is the brawn to Guizhong's brain.
Venti also said that Morax is a muscle-head, meaning he's all about brute force.
But after Guizhong's death, Morax changed... he started to use his intellect more instead of just force.
And I guess that's how Zhongli manage to win the archon war, maybe if he only relies on his brutes he could've lost?
They downplaying Guili stuff cause Zhongli needs to be marketed as boyfriend to these crazy fans lmao
We don't know about Zhongli relationship with Guizong yet. We didn't see his pov about this. We know for sure they are close together. It's likely going to be another Story.
Ping and Guizhong had such a close relationship, I wish desperately for more crumbs of lore about them TwT
Cat probably repost the video to revise this part 1:28 about Guizhong's death
i can already imagine that ping and guizhong were like modren day girl best friends but in the past, it hurts seeing guizhong go. she took “the god of dust” too seriously..
Another one bites the dust🎵🎵🎵...
Sorry I couldn't let this opportunity go
aha…. girlbestfriends… just Gal Pals…
@@catboymiles7224 yes? just like me and my bestfriend
@@neillaallien4989 im being sarcastic. neilla allien i think guizhong and madame ping were lesbians
only thing i saw when i watched this teaser was how cloud retainer was extremely beautiful. but now i understand how madam ping was also really hot. thanks for showing me this detail catwithbluehat ☺
i think yall are misunderstanding something: this doesnt mean that zhongli and guizhong werent as close as we thought, it just means she was also close to the adepti. this cutscene is shown by the perspective of cloud retainer only, theres more to it than this.
People erasing Zhong li's lore with Guizhong like it doesn't exist anymore. It does matter. She matters to him, ping, and the other adepti.
@@jiro7990 Yepp. She matters to all of them. She was like the heart of their group.
3700 years has passed both Retainer and Ping still saddened by Guizhong's death then there's Zhongli having a tea party with other adeptus.
I wonder if hoyoverse would make a gameplay for the Archon War and the Cataclysm, like a DLC or maybe as another game. It would be cool to play as the First Descender, exploring around and meeting the original 7 archons. Then the Cataclysm will be the other sibling POV.
Just hoping they will add it in anime(and the past lore of every region)
That is the job of the genshin impact anime
I think he's having tea because he wanted an excuse to be out of Liyue Harbor.
Gosh you reminded me an idea of a dlc but we play as the traveler's sibling during before and after the catalysm
I wouldn't want to play another game of Genshin, heck I barely even have any time to even touch the commission.
Just a friendly reminder to everyone because I know how crazy some of you are when it comes to ships you can ship whoever you want for example I still like the zhongli and guzhong pairing but not that hard I just really like it and I'm pefectly cool if you guys have other pairings or opinions but just don't jam it into eachothers throat or judge them because in the end they are just fictional characters and if you let shipping get into your head you will only ruin the story and characters for yourself.
True, very true. Had this moment a little over a year ago until someone humbled me and i still find it funny how it went. "Oh right, they're pixels..." lol
I agree with this. I'm tired of people harping on me for my personal favorite shippings of Genshin characters. They're fictional, let me ship who I want. :/
I simply don't pair anyone at all. No headcanons, simply enjoy what they already provided for us.
Zhongli and ninnnguang, I don't know why I ship them.
ships are for nerds
While nothing implies that zhongli and guizhong had a closer relationship nothing implies otherwise either while streetward rambler was devasted I think it’s a strong statement to say she was the most affected
@@horizon146 damn you’re definitely a part of the genshin community you only read part of what I said and I’m literally quoting partially from the video
@@horizon146 you misread far more than just one letter, and instead of trying to clarify you tried to take a dig at me
@@horizon146 you’re comment literally quoted one part of mine and then you said “well fuck half the games lore i guess” implying that I’m ignoring gamelore when all I was trying to say was that while Nothing implies they were closer than friends there’s also nothing that implies that they weren’t closer than that either
Man this is why i can't let go of genshin the story is so GOOD. Geez
One little thing that got me curious is when we were talking to ganyu, and she asks " would it be possible to refill the land with the sea of glazelilies {or what ever the flower is colled,} if we water them enough and look after them, i find this interesting cos it could be als portrait as, could we revive the sea of flowers if we water them enough, or interestingly ( could we revive her if we tryed hard enough) idk its just something that imidiatly crossed my mind, afterall her sorce was sealed, who knows if it can be reused again, i mean raiden was able to create a living pupet, but i digress
Idk, but after see how similar sandrone with her..maybe...maybe...
If bringing a god back to life was possible, Raiden would've done it with Makoto, surely?
I think it's supposed to be symbolic; Guizhong loved Glaze Lilies and from what we know of her she loved humanity too. So replanting the glaze lilies in her memory and returning the land to what it was when she was around would honor her memory and show that her dream of a peaceful, prospering Liyue came true.
characters after they become old: OH NO HE- *transforms into npc*
Please this is mihoyo they will only ever tease relationships never confirm anything to avoid passing off fans and ships. That's why four acts in we still don't have a character who is married. Zhongli and Guizhong are "best friends" just like Beidou and Ninguangg are "best friends". And grief affects everyone differently. Zhongli threw himself into his work. Cloud retainer I guess became more reclusive. Madame ping went to live in the human society to understand guizhongs words. And she had her home in the guili assembly not the mountains and we know all adeptus even ping lived there. Zhongli on the other hand much like he protected liyue would also have been guili assembly protected since he was the brawn and guizhong was the brains. Highly likely they lived close or together...
they were allies co-rulers she was nothing as special as osial, cloud retainer, the yakshas etc his priority was for liyue
also hoyo is known to make tragic love stories so
i need another pov of her death and how they usually sees her, i cant really trust much if its still from one person pov. So im going to wait for Zhongli's pov about this.
of course, its also because i want to see their last scene, im curious about his reaction and what is it that killed Guizhong
we had an entire cinematic of her being petrified
@@marishkaaaa-r0p what i mean is, what's the cause of her death and morax's reaction. When cloud retainer arrived, she's already dead.
@@Auctor317 although that could be good i feel like those stuff wouldn’t be the stories priority we already know sbt guizhong enough to out her aside fontaine is coming up
@@marishkaaaa-r0p yeah, maybe hyv wont release anything about her anymore in-game
But who knows if she's going to appear in the anime before traveler's arrival, like in Archon war
same, it is said that the geo archon (who usually had an emotionless expression) broke in tears, so yeah I really want to see Zhongli's pov too :')
Manifesting for anemo cloud retainer (2nd tall female anemo maybe) cause her design is nice
I don't know why I find It weird but it's kinda strange that Rex Lapiz is shown without eyes in the flashbacks. And even in the scene where Guizhong is shown dead his face is not seen
and thats just a few minute cutscene, imagine what a two-hour long movie can do to our emotions❤
I love cloud retainer character development in this event
Remember when people were throwing fits saying how Guizhong and Ningguang will be the same person and how they're really simmilar and how Zhongli was so in love with Guizhong
then this? I'll be honest I like it more. Because if Guizhong was just like Ningguang it wouldn't have hit as hard because Ningguang is a character already alive and well that we know so it wouldn't hit hard at all for her past life to have died but she's fine.
the ARA ARA vibes of Cload retainer is so 🔥🔥🔥
I don't feel like this cutscene implied Zhongli and Guizhong were just friends/colleagues. It showed they cared deeply for one another. If anything, I feel like the position and state Guizhong is in could have implied Zhongli was hugging her before the end
Yeah, this is why i hate this channel tbh, I only watch it sometimes when im bored but i already unsubbed long ago. This guy is always pushing his opinions as facts, in a passive aggressive way, while trying to snuff out theories he "doesn't like". Like cool if he believes they were just friends, fine, but stop acting like its a fact just because he thinks it is. He did this with the slime theory too and look how wrong he was about that lol. There is so much evidence in the game (not headcannon) that suggested their relationship to be much more, and just because some researcher who was already misinterpreting archons says they were best friends, then all of a sudden, that evidence is now fake?
@@anheld8726 the slime theory was ridiculous
the position looked like she was literally just in a sitting position awaiting her death i see no room for zhongli to hug both had a great bond with one another some may call them best friends
@@marishkaaaa-r0p No it wasn't, there were people making ridiculous interpretations of the original slime theory; which he then took those ideas, blew them up to encapsulate the entire theory, then made a video bashing it so he could be right. Such pathetic behavior tbh. The original theory actually remains true and Sumeru's release proved this so idk what you're on.
@@anheld8726 it was literally ridiculous 😭
The new lore doesn't confirm ANYTHING about Guili's relationship. We see them both from Cloud Retainer's pov who was ridiculously reclusive even then.
I wonder if the place where they sealed Guizhong residue is the Chasm....
chasm was formed by zhongli and azhdaha fight which was after guizhongs death
I think Guizhong died in Guili Plain
@@pravindkumar8095 No. The Chasm already looked like that before the azhdaha fight. It was formed like that because of the Celestial nail sent there. The remnants of the azhdaha fight can be seen at the top of chasm to nantianmen and those huge unique rocks found in chasm.
@Aneki Ryota that sounds like one of the four shades of phanes
I saw in an Ashikai vid that she mentioned Cuijue Slope. You reach the middle there and there’s a gravestone and the sky blackens over as well where the nine pillars of peace are. I tried reading the gravestone in game but i couldn’t, not sure if it’s just phone things.
I saw someone's community post where they put Guizhong and Sandrone side by side. I hope it's a just a massive coincidence.
0:46 the lady on the right might be Cloud Retainer in human form because she kind of resembles Shenhe or at least the colours match
She *IS* Cloud Retainer in human form lol
She is
Yep thats her (I wish she's playable I would make her my main)
Guizhong seems like she is holding someone hands before her death..
Zhongli....
It was Zhongli as mentioned in the Primordial Winged Jade Spear
"At Liyue's foundation, monsters and gods still ruled the seas.
In fear the forebears lived, and fought the sea with all they could muster.
As spring turned to fall and back again for many an eon, a behemoth arose that dominated the seas. Even the Geo Archon's Geo Whale could not triumph against it.
The people of Liyue called it "Baqiu," a beast without rival even in the deepest depths of the ocean abyss. Its enormous waves would wash away entire settlements.
So the Geo Archon fashioned a black kite by hand with jade and stones.
The stone bird took to the unbound skies once forged. Into the heart of the ocean it dove, into the battlefield with the behemoth and the whale.
Into the depths of the sea the behemoth sank, there to stay forever.
Released from its thundering roars were the people of Liyue."
Now where the fuck is that hands-holding part as this is literally the entire description of that PJWS?
@@Tarutanya i dont think its from pjws, its another weap from the same series which i dont remember what's the name
all i remember is that its a green sword
@@Auctor317 the primordial jade cutter
- The lover thing is pure headcanon. Just like 99% ship in genshin. It's just pure player headcanon.
- This also confirms Ganyu is over 3700 years. Before this, we only knew she was more than 3000.
- That is the original yakshas. Xiao only joined Zhongli 2000 years ago, after Zhongli freed him from another god and gave him the name A̶l̶a̶t̶u̶s̶ 'Xiao'. Which is 1700 years after the god of dust died. I hope Xiao fan reads this before spreading lies.
Zhongli gave him the name “Xiao” btw
@@valhersa29 thanks for the correction
But there are 5 yakshas in the video. Who’s the last one? One who died before Xiao joined?
Xiao’s Wiki states he was freed by Zhongli during the Archon war. Guizhong’s death was during the Archon war. We don’t know which came first, and seeing this cutscene, I’m gonna assume Xiao joined the Yakshas before Guizhong died
Looking at the still images it is really resembling xiao. All the other yakshas are clearly drawn and visible to be recognised as well. So it might be thing that can be explained in future? A retcon or simply another adepti that look like Xiao. AHH so excited to know more.
@@zaraizara2794 xiao literally in the video wdym lol
Wow I wasn’t expecting a revision of the video. Cool that you put it in there xD have a great day!
So I now want a spin off game where we play in Teyvat during the Archon War. Maybe we can get a chance of playing with Makoto, the Yakshas, Ghizong, Ping and others.
Friendships don’t exist for the Genshin Impact fandom
You know what, I hope Genshin allows us to play death characters in the future. They rock, I mean personality wise. Their design was astonishing by the way.
Anyway, the story was "poignant"
I can easily imagine it. Make some kind of event where a character retells a story from way back. And we players experience it from the power of long gone hero.
I hope Madame Ping will use her old form so she can be playable in the future. She is a adepti and adepti can't getting old.
Genshin 2 will be the prequel, maybe. Or they will make it as the anime series. Who knows what hyv think right now.
I mean, they do that in Honkai, and I also want to play dead characters, I'd like to order 1 Guizhong.
they wont. they just put out the tragic stuff like with other games.
maybe it will be differnet for genshin but not historically
I like both Guili and Guiping
What I don't like: ppl throwing shades to each other over equally great ships
Solution: It's a poly
Yeah, instead of taking in the story, people fight over headcanons and ships.
Whichever way people interpret it is fine (i mean the CCP won't allow one to be more than a hint, but still)...
The passing of a dear friend is no less devastating as the passing of a dear lover.
@@DramaticCrossroad its Always fine with a good fandom. However genshin fandom is toxic af. Is it ship majority likes they act like if its canon, if its ship the majority doesnt like or care for with the same "hints" they are just friends
@@Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97 guizhong was said to get along with everyone...
That woman had a harem, confirmed. Love that for her.
I noticed Menogias and the pyro yaksha, but not Bosacius, Bonanus or Xiao.
Guizhong galaxy outfit make me wonder what is it exactly? What is the connection it has to her and were it merely a simple outfit idk but something must be going on with that galaxy pattern
I hope we get to see this in their upcoming anime, if the one ufotable adopt is the archon war arc.
Being a loving god is hard in teyvat, their death also means doom to their territory with the miasma and such. So far, only Zhongli is reponsible enough to clean up after other god's miasma. Raiden is the worse at cleaning, way too many island left fucked up cause she killed a god there. Venti didn't clean up after decarabian, but he does terraform his entire domain to be habitable.. nahida case, well not many god fought her...bit she can't clean up after scarlet king
Gotta give props to the scarlet king, he was the only one to have the foresight to clean up after himself.
Nahida hasn't had a chance but 100% she'd put everything into cleaning up god residue... she pit evrything into curing the corruption in Irminsul. She's a responsible god, despite her childish appearance.
Ei wasnt really the best tool in the shed after Makoto left and it wasnt Ei who killed Orobashi it was the Shogun. I think in the voicelines, the shogun was the one who claimed that she killed Oro
@@Orioncopes and ei left the country unwatched for hundreds of years and left a godslaying machine to potentially kill a god, leaving uncleaned residue.
@@Orioncopes Both Orobaxi and Kapatciri(the thuder bird) were killed by Ei... She created the Shogun after Makoto died 500 years ago, while she fought and killed those 2 gods shortly after Archon War ended which is 2000 years ago, and Makoto has officially become the Electro Archon of Inazuma...
Scene where true legends cried
I'm surprised Xiao was there when Guizhong died. I thought he was indeed over 2000 from his description, but not over 3000 (like saying you're over 20, i would assume you're still within 21-29, not in 30s or 40s, but that's probably just me lol), so i thought he never met Guizhong since he was born way after she died. And I couldnt really tell it's him, but looking again, that does look like his pose in yaksha cutscene, just lack the polearm ig. And a bit too tall than i thought lol. I wonder if he used to adore Guizhong too since she was quite a lovable person.
May I know where the 'Xiao born after Guizhong died' came from? Iirc, there is a story telling that he was a slave for an evil god before joining hands with Zhongli then helped him in archon war
@@ramyoen6131 Nah, i just assume he never met Guizhong because she died around 3700 years ago, while Xiao's was stated to be over 2000 (and I assumed he's still within 2000s). So there's a gap of 1700 years. He joined Zhongli & co in archon war (end around 2000 years ago), but no one can really tell how old he was at the time or how long he is with that evil god. You might want to check in Genshin wiki, there's a page that arrange Teyvat timeline including Liyue's history if that helps. Sorry for the long reply
@@yama8124 thanks for the answer. I saw someone else commented the exact same thing so I thought it was stated in game or something
It's possible she was petrified by Zhongli to slow down the residue
Then he formed the yakshas to clean the residue year's later
But idk I just hope we learn more lore from the past!
Still doesn't change that losing your best friend will scar for years, if not decades. And since we got weapon made in her memory. Safe to Say, Zhongli really do have some bitter sweet memories regarding Guizhong like Madam Ping.
2:22 didn’t she say that when they got their, all they arrived to was her lifeless body? I thought it was a side effect of her death. Given the scene, she was already petrified. But we don’t have exact timelines of events.
Yes, zhongli and guizhong are not lovers. Some people just likes to ship and add romance to anything. Theyre just partners wherein zhongli is brawns and guizhong is brains. They were a perfect duo that lead the first people of liyue. Guizhong's bestfriend is streetward rambler, as shown in the story.
More likely it was one sided. Zhongli was called by Venti as a Block head and Pre Archon war Zhongli was more harsh. Given that he was there mediator, he was likely more oblivious to emotions.
they werent even a popular ship lol leave the poor kids alone
The only person that ZhongLi can fall for is the traveller. Male.
Lmao dummy, ships are not always meant to be canon
For example, gojo X utahime isn't canon nor did it sail
But the ship is still fine wine
And like that, guili is also a fine ship, there is also a plain named after them
And no don't get started on me, I don't ship them and I am just neutral towards this ship
The problem with this fandom is they ship people like ganyu and keqing who have no reason to be shipped and shenlan who don't even know eachother lmao
And there is also another problem,
You and people like you, who find absolutely every ship wrong, even the ships that make sense
Seeing that Zhongli and Guizhong are frequently seen together by other adeptus and Guizhong changed a savage, ruthless Zhongli into a calm obe, it really does seem that they both loved each other, though it must be very one-sided and only Zhongli didn't realize until it was too late.
I like how they went ahead and finished the event story because tons of ppl showed the cutscene. Now you can say that isn't why they did it but every other lantern rite main quest was about 5 days, 3 parts not 2. Now yes I may still be wrong but hey uou never know.
There's a third part called "Epilogue"
Not sure if there's a 4th or 5th. But when I finished the 1st part, only the second part "appeared" and said it'd be unlocked after x hours....
then when part w was unlocked, part 3 appeared and said unlocked after x days.
So we'll have to wait and see if there's a part 4 and 5
We can't really say about Gui and Zhongli as this story was more about getting friends close together with music and her relationship with the adepti.
Last year we had the story of the yaksha
This year we have the view of the adepti
Maybe next year we will have Zhongli's personal sight of things.
it's been a long time since i last cried at genshin this much, such a beautiful and sad story it is. thanks for the video 💗
White Tassel being madame ping's polearm makes me love white tassel and madame ping even more 😭
My man is uploading videos like madman
Imagine still grieving after 3700 years.
i hope ping would use her younger form again in the future, she is so gorgeous
Something that does makes me wonder because she mentions adepti, so is she's an adepti or in this case human like shenhe, because i was wondering if she was able to stay young for so long maybe in the last scene is her becoming mortal by choice and that is why she's old.
@@akira8393 She's an adepti and she can change physical forms however she likes
@@akira8393 she choosed that form, it was mentioned in a dialog after we meet ping with ganyu and cloud retairner
@@crystalesia9372 wait you mean that there is a chance for a ping banner? Aw heck yeah!
@@akira8393 no there's not,or probably yes but i don't think so. In that cutscene say a adeptu become a mortal or something like that,i think that's means she become a mortal and now she's old. But let's not loose hope,maybe she will get one.
Ping decided to let her appearance to grow older after Guizhong's death. I really hope one day to see her young again, together with Guizhong alive. The Adeptis in the path were just so pretty and adorable.
Is that the bell Madam Ping mentioned during Serenitea Pot quest? That quest hits different now 😭
I'm asking the real question here now: Does Ganyu know that Zhongli is Rex Lapis? Cause her voiceline about Zhongli suggests that she doesn't know of his true identity yet in the latest Lantern Rite quest, Cloud Retainer openly speaks about Zhongli being Rex Lapis in front of her. And she doesn't seem fazed at all. Has anyone checked if her voiceline about him changed? I'm curious 🙌
Ah yes, the typical inconsistency of game interactions. I even have this question back when Ping and Zhongli had once an Interaction (somewhere like the past year's Lantern rite festival) where if Ping knows Zhongli's true identity or not because ping sounds like she does even if there's no past interactions to back it up.
Zhongli really is just an inconsistent character to portray, since he himself can't even tell if he wants to be truly hidden or not (this is a reference of him giving hints through dreams that he's still alive to major characters in the game in the Liyue Archon Quest)
It is not that Guanyu don't know the existence of Rex Lapis but Rex Lapis takes on many forms before, so she is not sure what his latest form is. She saw his previous form before he change to the current male human form.
That caught my attention as well. I always wondered if Ganyu knew, considering she's so devote to him. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I seem to recall a past interaction between Ganyu and Zhongli where it was apparent that she didn't know he is Rex Lapis. Or at least, she didn't treat him with the etiquette I'm sure she would've if she knew. But I could be wrong since I can't say where that interaction happened. Anyway, after this scene with Cloud Retainer, I'll be looking forward to see how Ganyu ad Zhongli's next interaction goes (I really hope for consistency)
@@pikarizardcharikachu2573 That is answered on this Lantern Rite. Cloud Retainer said that when Ping heard someone named Zhongli wanted to borrow her Cleansing Bell, she inmediately knew that it was Rex Lapis in disguise. The reason being that they know each other for so long, that they just instinctively recognize each other
Ganyu didn't work closely with Rex Lapis himself, and he had many forms, and she was grieving and overworking, so she saw him and didn't connect the dots.
Zhongli current attire isn't something he wore before retirement. It was a gift from the tailor, but he didn't use until much later. (The tailor is likely one of Hu Tao grandfathers), that's why it match Hu Tao perfectly.
Others didn't recognize Morax being alive until we asked about the cleansing bell. Ping understood, and told the others. Then one year later, Zhongli went to visit the Adepti in the next lantern rite. So it was crystal clear.
Ning learned the truth from the dream, and ordered closure of the case immediately.
Ganyu probably still out of the loop
Bro please make a video on 'WHY NO CRYO CATALYST?'.
So many mysteries. What of the Memory Dust weapon which was made by Guizhong and apparantly given to him in her dying moments. There's something sealed inside and Zhongli never was able to unlock it. He turned it into his burst tho lol. And what of Ningguang's vision which was originally a dead one that somehow got revived. hmmm
Probably their relationship goes like this:
Madame Ping like Guizhong → Guizhong like Morax → Morax stone man
On the contrary:
Deshret loves Flower God →Flower God likes Rukkhadevata → Rukkhadevata friend zone
Or maybe they were just best friends? I don't mind making theories about chars that ain't even real. But like, friendship can also be deep enough to cause such grief.
Personally I think that Ping, Guizhong and Zhongli were all friends but Ping and Gui had some friendly rivarly, and Gui’s death hit Ping the hardest
@@shreosheesarder6132 It's not theories tho. It was mentioned multiple times that Deshret was badly in-love to God of Flowers to the point he research about Forbidden Knowledge that destroy his nation. On the other hand God of Flowers create the Sabruez Festival for Rukkhadevata and always perform a dance in front of her.
As for Liyue grannies, there are hints out there scattered throughout the game.
@@dusksunsetio6042 As Zhongli put, different people will tell the stories differently. We haven't seen Guizhong death from Rex Lapis perspective, we did not know how he cope and how much it hit him.
Why the re-upload something go wrong!
Edit: i see you added the Yakshas and get petrification parts
when lady ping turned her head back and then animation transitioned to madame ping turned her head front somehow hits me hard
Another possibility from the statue of guizhong petrified is the same thing of what happen with the death of the salt god
Small correction, during the liyue archon quest, Ganyu states that the archon war ended 2,000 years ago instead of 3700 years ago. 3700 is how long it’s been since the city of liyue was founded
The Fall of the Guili Assembly occurs 3700 years ago, which is also stated to be when Guizhong died.
Source: Stone Tablet Compilations: Vol. I
What you claim 2000 years ago was when Archon War came to an end. It was a war that lasted for thousands of years.
@@CatWithBlueHat Oh, I didn’t realize the war lasted that long. I figured it lasted maybe a few centuries across all the nations of teyvat but 1700 is a long time
The war started and ended in different times in each nation.
For Sumuru, it never started. Deshret already decided to share his throne with the two other archons in his nation. There were no one fighting.
Then he followed his ambition which led first to GoF death, and then his own sacrifice. Which left Rukkhadevata alone, and in smaller form. So when war ended in all other nations and archons ascended to Celestia to receive the gnosis, Rukkhadevata took it.
Zhongli was the prime adeptus and was the one judging between them, and they were all together. But also war happened, and Zhongli got the highest kill count. But also the plague and famine and corruption took those on his side, so only him was left.
Ei on other hand murdered things with and without reason .. like "I deem the thunderbird too dangerous to live .. now you shall parish!"
@@nawawii3750 other adeptus still alive
Now the story has been completely unfolded.
Best friend or above: Zhongli and Guizhong's ship incoming 🚢❤
More than Best friends. Sadly it was likely one sided because pre Archon War Rex Lapis was less self aware of emotions and so a Block Head.
@@arnowisp6244 Right it was one sided all along. There's a hint that Guizhong had a crush on him but he's a stone hearted man so he wouldn't understand those feelings.
@@arnowisp6244 could be but we don't know Guizhong's side of the story, if she had feelings for Morax or not. But either way, Morax was definitely oblivious to anyone's feelings. No wonder Venti called him blockhead
Finally, Ningguang is Guizhong's reincarnation is over. I can finally breathe with relief.
they look a little bit similar and both are very smart and skilled women, but with this story it is pretty much confirmed that they are completely unrelated to each other so yeah, is over.
Now the birth of a new ship, PingxGuizhong
@@eightyeight2379 as we should
SHE BEAT THE ALLEGATIONSSSS
I never believed that Ningguang is Guizhong reincarnation... Cause if she really is, then the other gods who died should had been reincarnate as human as well... Like Decarabian, Istaroth, Chi, Makoto, Orobaxi, Kapatciri, Scarlet King, and Goddes of Flower...
Can we talk about how similar Guizhong looks to Sandrone? And that both of them seem to be masters of mechanical devices?
I think Sandrone is like resurrected or reborn Guizhong, but without memories
perhaps as part of a contract between the Fatui and Morax
This is very cool, but this is not happening.
While it sounds interesting, I don't think it is the case here.
@@eduardo_coimbra Yeah, I don't think this to be intentional or a setup for something. Still thought it was kinda interesting nevertheless.
@Teldarin Damn it, now you said it I wish very hard this to happen. It would be so cool if the Fatui somehow get her sealed body and used all her power.
Students of cloud retainer, ganyu and shenhe, dress like her(not showing a lot of skin)
. Students of ping, yaoyao yanfei and xiangling, dress like ping(showing a lot of skin).
yaoyao, yanfei and xiangling also have energetic personality similar to guizhong.
Some says Guizhong is one of the Fatui which is the Puppeteer.
Image Guizhong still alive and how far can Liyue develops under her guidance
1:38 when i first saw that, I unconsciously thought: "Madam Faruzan, whatcha doin' here?"
Slightly unrelated, but an adepti can take on many forms right? I'm not the brightest but Ganyu or Yanfei said Madame Ping "chose" to be an old lady; so she can go back to being a middle-aged looking woman? Thanks lol
Most likely, yes
I'm so used to the fanart of guizhong Never in my mind guizhong were this adorable .. thank you and fk you hoyovers. Btw i need that zhongli outfit 😭
Do you know what is written when the animation cuts to green when guizhong is petrified?
Also I don't think this teaser disproves or supports that they were lovers or not, still stays pretty open to interpretation
We need playable human form cloud retainer and madame ping please aaaa
That young ping to old ping scene hit the hardest knowing no matter how youthful our life's must be right now. One day we all will be the guests of wheelchair and then our graves 🥲
Bro the shippers are annoying af. Guili shippers are annoying when they said Guizhong is Zhongli's lover (though the unreleased Glaze Lily book is implying so). But the newly emerged Pinggui shippers are on a new level. I see them trashtalking guili because they get attention from the cutscene and saying that Guizhong didn't like Zhongli, like... bruh... we literally have the whole Guili Assembly lore talking about Zhongli and Guizhong led a country together and name the place after their names. I swear they only appear because Guizhong is paired with another girl not a man. Not even one day passed and shippers already ruin my enjoyment of her character
Lol. I still prefer Guizhong and Zhongli ship. Plus we shippers aren't that bad compared to when both are the same gender. Things get more vicious after that.
I completely understand you Bro since I feel the same frustration with their annoyance. I don't get where in the story says something about romance when the quest clearly stated that both Guizhong and Ping where friends AND rivals. It is also stated that both where competitive and would always argue about music and life, but even with that they manage to become good friends.
@@anekiryota6049 yeah, I'd like to know about it too
you do know zhongli stated books are over exaggerated events
also lets not act like yall didn’t wage war with zhongchi shippers u got what u payed for
I really want that white hoodie skin for Zhongli
Hoyoverse ALWAYS place these amazing love confessions in their games
" If saving you was a sin then I'll glady become a sinner"
Now " The One attunded to my soul is no longer here"
I cannot take it!😭
Personal note I think its mainly implied zhongli and guizhong were freinds or brother and sister, one sided love could be but eh comparisons to how hoyo wrote deshret and goddess of flowers story that actually showed one sided attraction i dont think thats the case coming from the game and books we've read. But this ship is adorable!
I'm assuming Madam Ping's old lady form is just some form of disguise. So it's possible they will actually make her young form playable, along with Cloud Retainer's human form.
Well... Ping offered Retainer that she could teach joung humans the Mechanical Arts in the harbor.
Maybe in the future she realdy thinks about and evend does it, so then it would make sense for her to stay in human form, to be playable for us.
Ping chose this form , that's her wish to get old in the city, and raise human and half Adepti students.
Her looking old is something that seem to be since Ghuizhong passing.
I would like to stand by my headcannon that Zhongli and Guizhong had a special relationship with each other.
I wouldn't say lovers. But the music, which was famously fan-titled by the community as "Guizhong's Lullaby", is officially titled by Hoyo-Mix as "Lover's Oath".
I dunno about you, but I sure as hell think that has got to have connection to the two whether it is true or not lmao.
Of course Mihoyo got to leave Her relationship very vague with Zhongli can't afford to hurt Sales on a Husbando or Waifu {Mihoyo can make Klees mom playable and leave her husband vague and make her a Uwu Travel character} to literally bot hurt sales
Inb4, Klee was adopted.
their relationship was vague since the beginning zhongli prioritised country so didn’t really mingle with the others as venti said he was abit of a blockhead
dude, Morax has good taste!
I’m early! Also holy wow I’m equal times stunned and surprised by guizhongs official design. She’s so PRETTY SJSJSJSN
The hydro yaksha drip is unbelievable 😨♥️💸💸💸
I always though Xiao was older than 2000 years and now its confirmed!
It make all Adepti we know over 3700 years old. Xiao and Ganyu are the youngest, and they are over 3700, so here you go.
Yanfei is the only younger one, because she said she was born in peace times.