Honestly that's not bad for a four year old battery considering you were in sport mode, running AC which is a huge draw on a battery and you weren't trying to hypermile. It could have gotten the 100 miles without AC I bet.... Not bad really especially for what you paid for it....the original owners? Well, too bad for them. .lol@the battery reading btw
The volt meter (the gauge on the right) is accurate but not especially linear, if you want to be precise you need to measure watt hours and know how many your pack's been charged to, in a word you need a Cycle Analyst.
@@jorgemendez4517 Like you said "any good electric vehicle", I don't expect any "good" 1st gen product from China, in fact I only expect it from a rebadged name brand and not from a start up.
@mipmipmipmipmip I would be more worried about the spline shaft for the motor and transmission getting stripped out it wouldn't be the first time it happened to a wheego
There is most likely a way to re-calibrate the charge-meter to get a more accurate reading. Next time you do a test, it might be handy to bring along a generator. ;-)
85 miles with AC on doing "normal" driving is actually pretty good -I'd have guessed 40-60 miles myself. And hey, I don't know any petrol cars that let you drive the extra few feet home after they've run out!
But at least with a gas powered car you can put in a gallon of gas and get to a gas station, you can't exactly put a gallon of electricity into an electric car.
Jeff DeWitt as he was hoping for the last few feet at the bottom of the hill, I was thinking about a tow truck or a trailer, but then I noticed all those houses he was parked in front of, each with electricity. "... Excuse me, I'm stranded at the end of your driveway... and I was hoping that I could borrow a cup of electricity..."
It's called coasting. I ran out of gas in my truck once, which was entirely my fault. I *had* enough to get home, but ran into a traffic nightmare a mile long, which idled all of that away. I made a B line straight for the closest gas station, ran out of gas about a hundred feet before I got there, my engine cut out and I managed to have enough momentum after shifting into neutral to coast into the gas station up to the nearest pump.
You mean, that a company which was specifically founded to build e-cars was completely unaware of the specs of their own battery? Sadly that sound reasonably.
I have a small EV like this and I have a 50 foot 14 gauge extension cord for the "just in case" moments like you had. I have had to use it once and thank goodness I was by a friends work to plug my car in to charge.
I honestly don't watch many car videos.Doing it day in and out at work 45+ hours a week and then my own RUclips channel. I really enjoyed this episode.
Amesie's Automotive Corner I enjoy your videos and your personality. Would love to sit down and have a coffee with you but you are all the way north and I’m all the way south
Amesie's Automotive Corner I enjoy your videos and your personality. Would love to sit down and have a coffee with you but you are all the way north and I’m all the way south
I normally watch the dudes in their Lambos like Vehicle Virgins or the Stradman but this deserves to have more subscribers its far more entertaining seeing the other side of motoring lool :D
@@nightmareinaction629 touche`..... ok, I suggest the battery meter is based on 0-3.5v per cell. The point is that it is a 0 to something scale and not an expanded scale meter.
It is very possible, but the battery pack in the Wheego is not a lithium-ion battery pack like the one in your cell phone or laptop PC. The Wheego Life, as its name implies, runs on a lithium iron phosphate battery pack.
It kinda makes sense why the battery indicator is inaccurate. There’s circuitry that keeps track of charge cycles, and a cycle is when the battery goes from 100% to 0% and then back to 100%. But when you go from 100% to 80% and back to 100% every time, it can cause the battery to recalibrate itself to show 0% as 80%. It’s the exact same thing that happens with phones. People charge them from 30% to 100% every night, and the battery starts to think that 0% is actually 30% and it’s why they die with charge left. It’s why you should fully charge and then discharge your phone every now and again, it can recalibrate the phone to actually know what 100% and 0% are. *Too bad you can’t fully discharge this car*
eBike rider here, the amperage meter is always the better "battery meter" in my opinion. I drive a 2500w bike and once it reaches 1500w it's time for me to hurry home bc it'll drop to 200w in about 15km lol
85-mile range is really good, especially with an air conditioner turned on. Sounds much better when you say 136 kM. I would be carrying a small (charged) Battery Pack inside the car, that charges from the Regen Braking, but cannot use the stored power without flicking a 'Reserve' Switch on the Dash.
My car in high school had a gas gauge about as accurate as that. It would go down normally for the first third or so of a tank, hang at about two-thirds full for a suspiciously long time, and then suddenly go "Oh, actually you're into the reserve now." It never quite stranded me, but it was not to be trusted.
A battery meter about as accurate as the one on my laptop. Part of me wonders if something overheated somewhere in the electrical system after all of that """high-speed""" driving, since it actually got you home after you let it sit for a while.
You'd probably eliminate most of the weight savings with those heavy batteries, even with the plastic body. Maybe if he could get some conventional lithium ions, like that one kind everyone uses for EV conversions. Could be worth it, though, if he could also transplant the regen brakes somehow; that's something off-the-shelf EV conversion kits don't have.
The Trabant had a top speed of about 70 mph and no creature comforts like an AC. I don't know if US stations sell pre-mixed 2 stroke fuel - otherwise you'd have to concoct that stuff yourself from regular fuel and oil. Which is a procedure as godawful as the car itself.
You deserve so many subscribers... Your videos are always entertaining, and informative. You should have millions of subscribers... You will someday. Mainly because you're awesome. Thanks!!!
I think you need to know that in China, Shuanghuan is the shittiest end of the stick The fact that this thing still runs is baffling. In 2019 chinese cars that are actually reliable are Lynk & Co WEY Changan Geely Rongwei Chery BYD Haval Wuling
"if you hit zero percent battery it automatically voids the warranty" *Look if my ShwongDong trashcan broke I can just go to the hardware store and buy a new, probably better Rubbermaid trashcan for less than $30*
I wonder why there aren't EPA estimated miles on EVs like internal combustion engines. I also wonder why my VW diesel engines got significantly GREATER mpg than the EPA estimates. We all know why... Or should. Record for it was 753 miles on a tank until I chickened out. That was 57 mpg and I think EPA highway was 42. 🤦
As a Smart Electric driver - 87ish freeway miles is actually impressive. My 2018 Smart ED couldn't do that, using about 15kW draw to maintain 60mph - I'd be lucky to get 60 miles. Since the Weego battery pack is 30kWh, is it almost double the 17.6kWh capacity I have in my car - not bad for the 2013! Smart cars are built for cities - not road trips :)
About 15 years ago I borrowed my Father-in-law's Aerostar van to move my wife and me into our first apartment. It went well, we had 1/3 tank when the car just died in the middle of no where. We called him up, since he was going to meet us anyways, he brings a jerry can, and then says, "oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, fuel gauge is broken and 1/4 means empty". Sounds like my father in law programmed the wheego fuel gauge :|
I feel like it's just a volt meter. 0% is 0V on that scale probably, like with the citicar, which goes to show how much they know about electronics over there XD
Some electric cars have low propulsion shutdownsand if you have one cell that dips below a certain current the propulsion unit will go into limp mode and eventually stopeven though the rest of your battery may still be fine it could be a single cell that is faulty
It may have more range than a Chinese knockoff smart - but in every other single discipline the Trabant is worse than any other object known to mankind (even, though only by a whisker, than a Renault 4).
What about the Ford Pinto? Ford decided that it was cheaper for them to pay life insurance for people who died in car fires than to put a shield on the gas tank to prevent fires.
Really not bad at all. Highway uses a hell of lot less power then city driving.. constant 30hp or so to hold highway speed. That figure can go from 30hp to over 200+ depending on what your doing (and driving) in town just to keep up
According to the specs on the Wikipedia page, the battery in this is 36s LiFePO4, 85v divided by 36 is 2.2v which is REALLY low for this battery chemistry, the usual low voltage cutoff is 2.6v!
My white lab coat seems to have gotten up and walked off on me, but I frequently run my ebike down to 3v / cell. 3 - 3.3v / cell is pretty typical for most lithium chemistries but LiFePO4 runs quite a bit lower. Regardless of chemistry there is no black and white threshold where degradation begins. Anytime you use your battery there will be some degradation, but not running it down to your low voltage cutoff (LVC) will go a long way to reduce it.
The odometer signal in a gas car is a pulse generated from the transmission and fed to the ECM.. In an electric car, pulses are counted from a circuit called a pulse width modulator, and in turn is compiled and displayed.
The 2 biggest issues with evs are that you never truly know your range and if you break down on the side of the road no one can bring you a can of electricity
I have an E Bike for years I suspect it is something to do with mass of amp and relative potential range. IE As my power is depleted IE further I ride less power there is for torque, And I wonder if that is why the gauge is meaningless or indeed technology allows more even draw on battery. But I am no technician, But love my E Bike.
Seems to me that with a double battery pack, the weego might actually drive at the promoted 35-75 miles range. But with the current pack, once voltage drops below a certain amount, it just doesn't have enough juice to push the vehicle.
Power required will increase at higher, but the amount of time that power is used will decrease. Traveling at 30MPH uses less energy than traveling at 60mph, but you'll be using energy for twice the amount of time in the same distance which will somewhat close the gap for the total energy consumption between the two different speeds. Correct me if I'm wrong. What I said may make no sense.
it is wrong with electric cars because they have a single speed 'gearbox', in an ice car that may be true because of the reduction gear. But you would travel way further at 30mph than you would at 60.
@Aging Wheels - It's wrong. As with all electric cars if you will go a lot further if you slow down. Btw I think 85 miles on highway is a good range for this little car.
Aging Wheels what you're saying is correct, however due to the fact that the relationship between required power and speed is indeed cubic, the time factor here won't matter nearly as much as you'd think
I did this in a new Leaf recently. It took F*^&% HOURS to run it flat, like an entire day driving doing 100 laps of the Huntingdon ring road. It made a fun video but I won't do it again.... You can find it in my videos if you want to see an idiot
You only ran it down to 80 volts, you shouldn't worry about damaging the battery unless you leave the lights on or the like and run it down to zero. I thought the percent meter might be based on watt hours, but it sounds like your battery has not lost much capacity since it was new, so no idea. Watch the pack voltage if you want to go for range again, it's definitely not linear but it's the best you'll get without installing a Cycle Analyst. I have no doubt you could get 150+ miles hypermiling. Of course, if you kept it under 30mph you could probably get 300! XP
My bike has 72v battery at full charge it’s 85v and cuts out at 60v, 60=0 for me, maybe you only get to work within 30 volts of full charge, would be good to get some more experience with voltage on some other lower power setups
Batteries are never 1:1 because the voltage doesn't drop off 1:1. It's weird but it's kinda intuitive. The voltage drops on a curve, so you lose % faster at lower % of charge, depending on how the meter is set up to read, and depending on the chemistry of the battery in general. Lead-acid batteries have a more linear curve, lithium batteries have a much sharper drop at the end and stay much flatter over a longer percent. This means effectively that if it's measuring finished voltage, then it's only going to drop 10% maybe for the first 50% of actual capacity it loses, since the overall voltage will still be close to the fully charged voltage. This is the same reason older electronics like phones used to have weird charging/discharging times also relative to charge %.
You picked a bad road in Illinois for a car with bad suspension. 255 in IL is just literally the worst road for potholes and bumps. I live in Herculaneum which is just down 55, so I travel on that a lot to get to 64. Man I hate it.
Most modern lithium batteries have it pre-wired into an internal controller to cut power before absolute zero is hit. It would be a MASSIVE design flaw that would nail the coffin even harder for this car brand had they used an unprotected Li-ion battery.
Part of the issue with the capacity meter might be the relatively flat voltage curve for the li fe battery. Li ion has a nice linear relationship between voltage and capacity. Weego probably used li ion chips thus leading to 70% = 0%
Hey I was born in st. Louis! We lived in st. Charles. Is the city still a seperate entity from the county? Most don't know that the city isnt apart of the actual county. Or it didn't used to be.
They do, which is highly amusing given they're meant to be green and eco-friendly, except for the dino-fuel engine they need to keep going and all the emissions & waste from the coal/gas/oil/nuclear power plants they're creating to charge overnight... :P
@twocvbloke Not that there's anything wrong with that. A large powerplant can still create energy more efficiently (citation needed) than a small one, such as what we use in most vehicles. Still, the modern gasoline engine isn't all that terrible either.
twocvbloke Refining fuel also takes electricity from dirty power. It takes around 5kWh to refine a gallon of fuel. An average electric car can go about 15 miles with 5kWh. Also, charging at night during low peak hours is just using electricity that would be wasted otherwise.
@twocvbloke They are more eco-friendly than fossil fuel vehicles. Not everyone uses fossil fuels for energy either - you assume people don't have solar, wind, nuclear, geothermal, or hydro. An EV uses about 0.2kwh per mile. A full battery is maybe 50kwh to charge. The EPA says 33.7kwh = 1 gallon of gas. You're using objectively less energy to run an EV than a fossil fuel car.
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Should have named the video, "How far can WHEEGO?"
That could be their marketing slogan.
The smaller channel's are always much more entertaining
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That's always true
@DiverseTurtle I love these videos they are so entertaining
Well it’s not really small anymore but it has always been entertaining
Your positivity for shitty cars are amazing
That 100 mile range was probably done on a dyno
He needs to another "micro mile" test now - drive like a saint with no air conditioning & everything off etc
In Eco mode with the AC off.
At 24.5 MPH
100 miles, 100 likes:)))
It was done on a train
T-shirts that say "WILDLY INACCURATE"
Honestly that's not bad for a four year old battery considering you were in sport mode, running AC which is a huge draw on a battery and you weren't trying to hypermile. It could have gotten the 100 miles without AC I bet.... Not bad really especially for what you paid for it....the original owners? Well, too bad for them. .lol@the battery reading btw
genesishep at four years you shouldn't lose more than 5% of the range in any good electric vehicle
The volt meter (the gauge on the right) is accurate but not especially linear, if you want to be precise you need to measure watt hours and know how many your pack's been charged to, in a word you need a Cycle Analyst.
@@jorgemendez4517 Like you said "any good electric vehicle", I don't expect any "good" 1st gen product from China, in fact I only expect it from a rebadged name brand and not from a start up.
@mipmipmipmipmip I would be more worried about the spline shaft for the motor and transmission getting stripped out it wouldn't be the first time it happened to a wheego
@mipmipmipmipmip you don't take trips in this car lmao
Sometimes your life runs out when you least expect it.
There is most likely a way to re-calibrate the charge-meter to get a more accurate reading.
Next time you do a test, it might be handy to bring along a generator. ;-)
85 miles with AC on doing "normal" driving is actually pretty good -I'd have guessed 40-60 miles myself. And hey, I don't know any petrol cars that let you drive the extra few feet home after they've run out!
But at least with a gas powered car you can put in a gallon of gas and get to a gas station, you can't exactly put a gallon of electricity into an electric car.
Jeff DeWitt as he was hoping for the last few feet at the bottom of the hill, I was thinking about a tow truck or a trailer, but then I noticed all those houses he was parked in front of, each with electricity. "... Excuse me, I'm stranded at the end of your driveway... and I was hoping that I could borrow a cup of electricity..."
It's called coasting.
I ran out of gas in my truck once, which was entirely my fault. I *had* enough to get home, but ran into a traffic nightmare a mile long, which idled all of that away. I made a B line straight for the closest gas station, ran out of gas about a hundred feet before I got there, my engine cut out and I managed to have enough momentum after shifting into neutral to coast into the gas station up to the nearest pump.
yeah but normal driving in a gas car is 400 miles :/
@@LavenderBluz only 400?? 600 at least.
Accually - it might be voltage. 75/30 = 2.5, 99/30 = 3.3, which is the range of empty to nominal battery voltage for a LiFePo
You mean, that a company which was specifically founded to build e-cars was completely unaware of the specs of their own battery? Sadly that sound reasonably.
makes sense how they say that going to 0% destroys the battery
I have a small EV like this and I have a 50 foot 14 gauge extension cord for the "just in case" moments like you had. I have had to use it once and thank goodness I was by a friends work to plug my car in to charge.
85 miles with AC on, sportmode and highway driving for a car that could do 100 miles, i'd say pretty good
I honestly don't watch many car videos.Doing it day in and out at work 45+ hours a week and then my own RUclips channel. I really enjoyed this episode.
Amesie's Automotive Corner I enjoy your videos and your personality. Would love to sit down and have a coffee with you but you are all the way north and I’m all the way south
Amesie's Automotive Corner I enjoy your videos and your personality. Would love to sit down and have a coffee with you but you are all the way north and I’m all the way south
I normally watch the dudes in their Lambos like Vehicle Virgins or the Stradman but this deserves to have more subscribers its far more entertaining seeing the other side of motoring lool :D
"Already at 98%"
**looks at phone battery**
*OH MY GOD*
Seems like the battery meter is based on 0 to 4.2v per cell and not 3.3v to 4.2v per cell.
it was actually configured incorrectly
they are lifepo4
@@nightmareinaction629 touche`..... ok, I suggest the battery meter is based on 0-3.5v per cell. The point is that it is a 0 to something scale and not an expanded scale meter.
It is very possible, but the battery pack in the Wheego is not a lithium-ion battery pack like the one in your cell phone or laptop PC. The Wheego Life, as its name implies, runs on a lithium iron phosphate battery pack.
How far could a wheego go if a wheego could go far?
Isaac Roder a wheego would go as far as a wheego could go if a wheego could go far
Or instead of wheego maybe call It WeDontGo :)
It kinda makes sense why the battery indicator is inaccurate. There’s circuitry that keeps track of charge cycles, and a cycle is when the battery goes from 100% to 0% and then back to 100%.
But when you go from 100% to 80% and back to 100% every time, it can cause the battery to recalibrate itself to show 0% as 80%.
It’s the exact same thing that happens with phones. People charge them from 30% to 100% every night, and the battery starts to think that 0% is actually 30% and it’s why they die with charge left.
It’s why you should fully charge and then discharge your phone every now and again, it can recalibrate the phone to actually know what 100% and 0% are.
*Too bad you can’t fully discharge this car*
eBike rider here, the amperage meter is always the better "battery meter" in my opinion. I drive a 2500w bike and once it reaches 1500w it's time for me to hurry home bc it'll drop to 200w in about 15km lol
85mi seems about right... with A/C, and on the interstate at max speed the entire time. Maybe the meter is showing voltage instead of percent???
85-mile range is really good, especially with an air conditioner turned on. Sounds much better when you say 136 kM. I would be carrying a small (charged) Battery Pack inside the car, that charges from the Regen Braking, but cannot use the stored power without flicking a 'Reserve' Switch on the Dash.
My car in high school had a gas gauge about as accurate as that. It would go down normally for the first third or so of a tank, hang at about two-thirds full for a suspiciously long time, and then suddenly go "Oh, actually you're into the reserve now." It never quite stranded me, but it was not to be trusted.
A battery meter about as accurate as the one on my laptop.
Part of me wonders if something overheated somewhere in the electrical system after all of that """high-speed""" driving, since it actually got you home after you let it sit for a while.
Swap the weego into the trabant. 300 miles with the weight savings and a top speed of atleast 90
You'd probably eliminate most of the weight savings with those heavy batteries, even with the plastic body. Maybe if he could get some conventional lithium ions, like that one kind everyone uses for EV conversions. Could be worth it, though, if he could also transplant the regen brakes somehow; that's something off-the-shelf EV conversion kits don't have.
The Trabant had a top speed of about 70 mph and no creature comforts like an AC.
I don't know if US stations sell pre-mixed 2 stroke fuel - otherwise you'd have to concoct that stuff yourself from regular fuel and oil.
Which is a procedure as godawful as the car itself.
I'm not sure id want to go 90 in a trabant. I'm not even sure id want to go 70
@@loganrogers9157 You should watch the video of a grandma doing 140km/h in a Trabant in Poland. Its a late Trabant 1.1L but still...
You don't need to go up the hill, you just need a really long extension cord. ;)
famous last words: "I don't know if it's a placebo or not but the car feels weaker than when I started, it's probably just in my head"
They see me rollin, they hating. Patrolling tryin to catch me ridin wheego.
You deserve so many subscribers... Your videos are always entertaining, and informative. You should have millions of subscribers... You will someday. Mainly because you're awesome. Thanks!!!
Huh, I drive through right where you started all the time, since I work up in Fenton lol.
So basically it'll do around 100 miles or 160 km city driving without AC? That's perfect for a daily commuter.
I think you need to know that in China, Shuanghuan is the shittiest end of the stick
The fact that this thing still runs is baffling.
In 2019 chinese cars that are actually reliable are Lynk & Co WEY Changan Geely Rongwei Chery BYD Haval Wuling
A good electric car can be run down to 0% as the battery control hardware will shutdown the car when the power gets low.
Say around 3.3v for each cell
But is it a good electric car? Do you REALLY want to risk it?
looks like this car considers 0.0v as 0% lmao!
Not bad I have an electric 2014 smart it was suppose to be able to go 90 miles brand new but since year two it says it's range is 68 miles.
awesome job! lovely material.
you are so natural, and real; thanks
"if you hit zero percent battery it automatically voids the warranty"
*Look if my ShwongDong trashcan broke I can just go to the hardware store and buy a new, probably better Rubbermaid trashcan for less than $30*
7:12 when someone insults your restored rally Trabant
I wonder why there aren't EPA estimated miles on EVs like internal combustion engines.
I also wonder why my VW diesel engines got significantly GREATER mpg than the EPA estimates.
We all know why... Or should.
Record for it was 753 miles on a tank until I chickened out. That was 57 mpg and I think EPA highway was 42. 🤦
As a Smart Electric driver - 87ish freeway miles is actually impressive. My 2018 Smart ED couldn't do that, using about 15kW draw to maintain 60mph - I'd be lucky to get 60 miles. Since the Weego battery pack is 30kWh, is it almost double the 17.6kWh capacity I have in my car - not bad for the 2013! Smart cars are built for cities - not road trips :)
The sun lighting at the end was the icing ot the cake. Man this video was fun :D
About 15 years ago I borrowed my Father-in-law's Aerostar van to move my wife and me into our first apartment. It went well, we had 1/3 tank when the car just died in the middle of no where. We called him up, since he was going to meet us anyways, he brings a jerry can, and then says, "oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, fuel gauge is broken and 1/4 means empty".
Sounds like my father in law programmed the wheego fuel gauge :|
I feel like it's just a volt meter. 0% is 0V on that scale probably, like with the citicar, which goes to show how much they know about electronics over there XD
Some electric cars have low propulsion shutdownsand if you have one cell that dips below a certain current the propulsion unit will go into limp mode and eventually stopeven though the rest of your battery may still be fine it could be a single cell that is faulty
You need some harbour freight solar panels.
Maybe it has a battery dip stick like the Trabant has one for gasoline. Well, Trabbi is much better than any electric vehicle.
It may have more range than a Chinese knockoff smart - but in every other single discipline the Trabant is worse than any other object known to mankind (even, though only by a whisker, than a Renault 4).
What about the Ford Pinto? Ford decided that it was cheaper for them to pay life insurance for people who died in car fires than to put a shield on the gas tank to prevent fires.
It’s crazy watching it 3 years later and just knowing where it all went wrong
Really not bad at all. Highway uses a hell of lot less power then city driving.. constant 30hp or so to hold highway speed. That figure can go from 30hp to over 200+ depending on what your doing (and driving) in town just to keep up
You certenly did not run the battery completly flat. Pack voltage was around 85V. That is low but not deadly low.
According to the specs on the Wikipedia page, the battery in this is 36s LiFePO4, 85v divided by 36 is 2.2v which is REALLY low for this battery chemistry, the usual low voltage cutoff is 2.6v!
I thought 3.3V per cell is the lowest before degradation occurs.
My white lab coat seems to have gotten up and walked off on me, but I frequently run my ebike down to 3v / cell. 3 - 3.3v / cell is pretty typical for most lithium chemistries but LiFePO4 runs quite a bit lower.
Regardless of chemistry there is no black and white threshold where degradation begins. Anytime you use your battery there will be some degradation, but not running it down to your low voltage cutoff (LVC) will go a long way to reduce it.
Maybe the odometer was disconnected for quite a while??? would explain a lot of things
Dan Myself in a modern car, the odometer reading doesn't come from the screen. It comes from the car computer and you can't disconnect that.
The odometer signal in a gas car is a pulse generated from the transmission and fed to the ECM.. In an electric car, pulses are counted from a circuit called a pulse width modulator, and in turn is compiled and displayed.
The 2 biggest issues with evs are that you never truly know your range and if you break down on the side of the road no one can bring you a can of electricity
I mean, you never know your range on a gas car either
I have an E Bike for years I suspect it is something to do with mass of amp and relative potential range. IE As my power is depleted IE further I ride less power there is for torque, And I wonder if that is why the gauge is meaningless or indeed technology allows more even draw on battery. But I am no technician, But love my E Bike.
Is this A-pillar-plastic really coming off the windshield? :)
10:20 it’s so tense! It’s like watching Sean Connery drive a humvee in a garage while being chased by Nic Cage!
You do EVERYTHING the hard way, guy.
It would have been a lot less funny if you didn't end so close to your house.
Seems to me that with a double battery pack, the weego might actually drive at the promoted 35-75 miles range.
But with the current pack, once voltage drops below a certain amount, it just doesn't have enough juice to push the vehicle.
If this was a sub $10,000 car this would be a good deal.
Hilarious video, love the way you review stuff.
Trying to get up thhe hill reminded of The Little Train "I think I can, I think I can!"
The title should just said,"How Far Can Whee-go Go On A Charge?".
Very much enjoy your vids bro. Each ep is like an ongoing saga of this hapless little car! Please keep making new ones. Likd n subd ;-)
I'm surprised it's still running. You bought a lemon and can't get over it lol
Glad you made it home, you remind me of Rodney( Genius character in the Star gate atlantis franchise)
Weego advertises a hundred miles at what speed? Using what accessories?
It's like the MPG figures on proper cars..... done on a test circuit with duct tape over the door gaps and that.
I love that car it's brilliant!! I want one.
Range is highly dependent on speed. As speed increases power needed increases by a CUBIC factor.
Power required will increase at higher, but the amount of time that power is used will decrease. Traveling at 30MPH uses less energy than traveling at 60mph, but you'll be using energy for twice the amount of time in the same distance which will somewhat close the gap for the total energy consumption between the two different speeds.
Correct me if I'm wrong. What I said may make no sense.
it is wrong with electric cars because they have a single speed 'gearbox', in an ice car that may be true because of the reduction gear. But you would travel way further at 30mph than you would at 60.
@Aging Wheels - It's wrong. As with all electric cars if you will go a lot further if you slow down. Btw I think 85 miles on highway is a good range for this little car.
Aging Wheels what you're saying is correct, however due to the fact that the relationship between required power and speed is indeed cubic, the time factor here won't matter nearly as much as you'd think
So in summary :
the slower you go➡ the further you go
Toyota calls this feature "crawling"
Those wheego beeps sound exactly like the electric stock-movers inside a Walmart
I did this in a new Leaf recently. It took F*^&% HOURS to run it flat, like an entire day driving doing 100 laps of the Huntingdon ring road.
It made a fun video but I won't do it again.... You can find it in my videos if you want to see an idiot
At least they offer the battery voltage gauge, which seems to be a far more accurate battery level indication than the % reading!
Sounds like it’s overheating!
I would have turned off the AC when it started struggling
You took it pretty well. Because I'd have gotten angry and kicked the car or something.
You only ran it down to 80 volts, you shouldn't worry about damaging the battery unless you leave the lights on or the like and run it down to zero.
I thought the percent meter might be based on watt hours, but it sounds like your battery has not lost much capacity since it was new, so no idea. Watch the pack voltage if you want to go for range again, it's definitely not linear but it's the best you'll get without installing a Cycle Analyst.
I have no doubt you could get 150+ miles hypermiling. Of course, if you kept it under 30mph you could probably get 300! XP
Thanks for this post! A load of laughs!
Yet another hilarious video.
Couldn't you just pick it up and carry it?
Really enjoyed this video! You need more subs and views!
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My bike has 72v battery at full charge it’s 85v and cuts out at 60v, 60=0 for me, maybe you only get to work within 30 volts of full charge, would be good to get some more experience with voltage on some other lower power setups
You are crazy and brave at the same time.
Driving this plastic deathtrap. :DDD
I think the Trabant is actually worse.
LMAO I think I saw you in the Wheego one time on 270
reminds me of my three wheeled electric truck that tended to run out of battery when I was about a mile from the house.
yo i live right next to you! proof: KSHE 95 isnt actually exactly 95.0 FM
Batteries are never 1:1 because the voltage doesn't drop off 1:1. It's weird but it's kinda intuitive. The voltage drops on a curve, so you lose % faster at lower % of charge, depending on how the meter is set up to read, and depending on the chemistry of the battery in general. Lead-acid batteries have a more linear curve, lithium batteries have a much sharper drop at the end and stay much flatter over a longer percent. This means effectively that if it's measuring finished voltage, then it's only going to drop 10% maybe for the first 50% of actual capacity it loses, since the overall voltage will still be close to the fully charged voltage. This is the same reason older electronics like phones used to have weird charging/discharging times also relative to charge %.
Quite sure you can run the battery flat as the BMS will stop it going to a voltage low enough to cause damage.
You picked a bad road in Illinois for a car with bad suspension. 255 in IL is just literally the worst road for potholes and bumps. I live in Herculaneum which is just down 55, so I travel on that a lot to get to 64. Man I hate it.
A man like you...needs a city car... remember those
Any competent company would have appropriate cutoffs so it never dies due to low voltage unless it sits unused for years.
Hell the little guy did real good
The best range is about 70 km/h then you might able. Max amp. = Ah, so you volts not slam down.
The rated mileage is mixed city and highway driving (just like gasoline cars mileage is mixed driving) Driving high way consumes lot more energy
The battery meter is just in Chinese units of measurement.
Most modern lithium batteries have it pre-wired into an internal controller to cut power before absolute zero is hit. It would be a MASSIVE design flaw that would nail the coffin even harder for this car brand had they used an unprotected Li-ion battery.
I would use one as a second car for sure,
could it be a battery plat due to never letting it go under 80%
I love your channel I didn’t know you live in Missouri too
Part of the issue with the capacity meter might be the relatively flat voltage curve for the li fe battery. Li ion has a nice linear relationship between voltage and capacity. Weego probably used li ion chips thus leading to 70% = 0%
Hey I was born in st. Louis! We lived in st. Charles. Is the city still a seperate entity from the county? Most don't know that the city isnt apart of the actual county. Or it didn't used to be.
Soooooo, best advice is to keep a nice Petrol powered generator in the back for when the batteries crap out? :P
Some such vehicles have this built in.
They do, which is highly amusing given they're meant to be green and eco-friendly, except for the dino-fuel engine they need to keep going and all the emissions & waste from the coal/gas/oil/nuclear power plants they're creating to charge overnight... :P
@twocvbloke
Not that there's anything wrong with that. A large powerplant can still create energy more efficiently (citation needed) than a small one, such as what we use in most vehicles. Still, the modern gasoline engine isn't all that terrible either.
twocvbloke Refining fuel also takes electricity from dirty power. It takes around 5kWh to refine a gallon of fuel. An average electric car can go about 15 miles with 5kWh. Also, charging at night during low peak hours is just using electricity that would be wasted otherwise.
@twocvbloke They are more eco-friendly than fossil fuel vehicles. Not everyone uses fossil fuels for energy either - you assume people don't have solar, wind, nuclear, geothermal, or hydro.
An EV uses about 0.2kwh per mile. A full battery is maybe 50kwh to charge. The EPA says 33.7kwh = 1 gallon of gas. You're using objectively less energy to run an EV than a fossil fuel car.
Do you like having permanent streaks in your windshield?