The manager at my local GW store flat told me that. Paraphrasing: “combat patrols aren’t supposed to be used to start an army, they’re supposed to be used to play the combat patrol game. They should have useful units to add to an existing army but getting new players into the faction? that’s what Battleforces are supposed to be for.”
@@thefloatingcontinent9897 Then bring back the god damn start collecting boxes instead...also I honestly don't know anyone who plays the 'combat patrol game'. Everyone I've seen get into it with 10th just goes straight into a lower points cost regular 40k game. And now they're looking to try to push Combat Patrol into AoS...so I can't imagine they're very happy about it either.
@@luketfer yeah that would be pretty great. A start collecting, even at a higher price point, that gave customers a sizable and good variety of units would probably sell well and have similar profit margins.
@@luketfer I did play Combat Patrol once, I very much did not like it. I enjoy unit building and flexibility and the only major choices you can make in combat patrol are what enhancement you put on your character, and even then, there is one obviously bad choice and one good choice so you dont really choose.
My initial thoughts is that it isn't fantastic for a new player, significantly worse than the previous one, *but* it's pretty great for existing buyers of the previous combat patrol/battleforce to round out their collection.
I think it's fine for a new player, though it is a bit skewed, like the Ork Beast Snagga patrol. They're both good, it's just also they're both one specific aspect of the army rather than a varied starter platter.
I assume GW does factor in the previous boxes of the faction to determine new ones, y'know, just to make sure they aren't too samey. However, it is also GW, so I assume malicious cost saving measures on their part before I assume they are being considerate of long-term fans of a faction. I assume they aren't trying to round out peoples collections, they just needed different units from the previous patrol and wanted to put less value in it, which coincidentally rounds out the previous patrol.
one thing, not every combat patrol has had battle line units. The original space marine one for this edition is noticeably lacking in this and they gave you a stratagem to be able to sticky objectives.
Thank the gods I watched this video before the combat patrol came out. I was planning on getting it as I need the Jacakls and Ridgerunner, and figured 10 more ACOLYTE HYBRIDS won’t hurt. Now knowing there just hybrid metamorphs I’ll just buy the two kits I need. Thanks
They should be able to be built alternatively into the 10 acolytes no? And if you wanted to play an actually combat patrol I'm sure that proxying them wouldn't be too much work.
Ever since the 40k MTG decks came out, Atalan Jackal as a card has been finding its way into almost every red+green deck in my community. I'm actually really stoked that there's a discount box with them in it
As a new player to GSC, I think these boxes are great. I bought 2 of the last patrol boxsets and some genestealers, 1 squad of bikes. So this expands my army in different ways, more genestealers and aberrants to go that way, more trucks and bikes for mechanized list if it works out, more metamorphs or hybrids, more Neophytes if I need to, and ridgerunners. Saying that, I can see how some people who have been playing them longer may not enjoy the boxsets. You'll probably never have a better patrol boxset like last one, I do like how it's different options, so you have a chance to expand for cheaper. .....if you bought the old boxset of course.
I think one of the best parts of playing a human(and gsc) faction, is you've got lots of other armys to draw on. Guard, Sisters, ad mech, Imperial Agents and GSC can all kinda borrow bits and bobs from eachother. Just not quite as great as being an ork and being able to snag da good bitz from whoeva wez want to.
Yeah, I am excited for this combat patrol just because it has all other units that I already don't have. But as our teacher and preacher on four armed Emperor said... you don't really need two of those. Thankfully I listened to him and got two of old ones before they sold out (nabbed literally the last one that came in my country).
I bought three of the amazing 9th ed Combat Patrol. . . So I own no bikes and no snipers. . . So I will buy two of these 10th ed Combat Patrols, and the kill team for my warlord.
M y issue with Combat patrols is that thwyre removing transports from alot of them. EonsOfBattle said it in a video and i couldnt agree with it more "Transports are importants and good units but buying transports sucks because theyre not exciting". Him saying that mare me realize i never straight bought a single transport theyve all been from bigger boxes.
Yea, after having ran þe numbers myself during a lunch break, þe new boxes are… not great, but not þe absolute dog water people were claiming during þe stream. But I suppose anyþing would look awful compared to þe Hand of the Magus we’ve enjoyed for so long. Now I need to adjust my numbers from a while back, but safe to say þe value of þis new Combat Patrol is not getting better. Why þe Jackal is $45.00 is beyond me, but c’est la vie. Also, I already ran all þe numbers; I posted it in _your_ Discord server. I tried to save you so much time… or at least half an hour. 😅
Hachette's Combat Patrol Magazine has me worried at the moment. Between the test run and the actual product there were changes to at least Imperium and Stormbringer, small changes but changes. At least I hope that it really includes the old CPs and that the old ones weren't just a placeholder for the new ones. Because of those included, only the Space Marines and Tyranid CPs were already known in the new variant. For me: if old CPs, then hopefully a publication here in Germany (like Conquest, Imperium and Stormbringer - Mortal Realms was not published here) and then I have 2 subscriptions. If there is also the announced Premium content, then both subscriptions will also become Premium.
I managed to pick up one of the old Combat Patrol at the discounted price when they got discontinued, so I would very much like to get the Battleforce and new Combat Patrol to finish out a varied force of the army as a good starting point! Probably get more Neophytes over time. Good video!
1:20 "Every single Combat Patrol has had a Battleline unit included..." Combat Patrol: Space Marines has 2 Terminator leader characters, a 5-man Infernus Squad and a 5-man Terminator Squad; no Battleline units. Additionally, the Vanguard Spearhead set they rereleased afterwards has a Phobos Lieutenant, 10 Infiltrators, 3 Eliminators and 3 Suppressors; no Battleline units.
I keep forgetting the SM one because it is Leviathan but smaller. I know the Vanguard set has rules in White Dwarf but I don't think it got a Combat Patrol box release
@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Strike Team Solarien is a Phobos Librarian and the Vanguard Task Force box without eliminator. now they are out of stock
As someone who bought 3 of the old GSC combat patrol, I’m pretty stoked about the new one. We knew it was going to be bad but it could’ve been worse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
I just picked up the satanic broodsurge battle force at 182 USD on Amazon. I’m happy, it feels like a solid discount over buying separately at that price.
I usually purchase models through Amazon as it is cheaper but once I realized they were taking the previous combat patrol away, I ran to a local game store who was selling them full price and bought 2 of them at full GW price😭
Honestly all they needed to do for these CP was to just add in one extra unit to make up for what's being taken out (Sisters for example lost both a Rhino+PE without anything taking their place). As for anyone who'd bring up balance for the CP game mode, take a look at the Custodes box and their rules. Custodes are only able to use 40-50% of their box in CP mode, this means GW could give great value in the boxes, and then adjust the rules/ limit units in the game mode to balance.....but that doesn't maximize profit.
I like this new GSC combat patrol. I don’t get hung up on dissecting the rules and complaining about what doesn’t come in it. I go by the rule of cool. That’s all that matters to me. WH is supposed to fun not dissecting it to the point of taking all the fun out of it. My opinion.
HOW TO START GSC CHEAP: Ebay sometimes have listings for Deathwatch Overkill for $120-$150. These don't have the Space Marines and/or are partially built sometimes. The models are all push-fit mono-pose but you get everything you need to start an army.
I’m fine with GW changing combat patrol boxes into sets of models to be played against other Patrols but not fine with them refusing to change the price to match.
Honestly I think if you make a few armature with empty head and arm sockets you can have both Acolytes and Metamorphs which gives you more infantry more units and more points per dollar.
Oh boy, am I glad I grabbed 4 copies of the old Combat Patrol. I might end up grabbing one of the new Combat Patrol boxes since I don't have any bikes. Although. . . the new Battleforce is rather tempting🤔.
The third thing a CP box should do (and IMO most important) is be fun and effectove to play in actual games of combat patrol. I like to get CP boxes i know i'll never have the army for just for combat patrol game variety
The new Combat patrol looks like a alternative version of the old start collecting box, just swapping the iconward n' neo's for bikers and the alpha... that was £55 I bought 5 of them 😢 I also bought 2 of the old Combat patrol although the new patrol is OK, I doubt many will be buying multiple
Cutting out the literal backbone of the GSC faction entirely for what is supposed to essentially be a box made for people with little to no prior investment in a faction sure is a decision. It feels like someone with no understanding of the faction saw the early meta for GSC at the beginning of 10ed and said, "Yeah, that'll sell well".
Man... I feel like I'm gonna grab a couple Drukhari combat patrols ASAP - I don't play them yet, but I know I want to someday and the way these are going... eesh.
The GSC Combat Patrol isn't for starting players. It's for players that bought 3x the previous combat patrol but avoided the bikes and vehicles because of the price of that crap, so you can finally have them for something approaching a reasonable price. I wouldn't recommend GSC to starting players anymore.
The new character being included in the Battleforce is actually a significant drawback for me - and the reason I will not get it. I think the Benefictus sculpt is hideous, and I do NOT want the "official" GW model. Without it though, the Battleforces value drops off massively, and I am not interested too much in the rest of the stuff in it either. So, hard pass for me. Still a solid box for anybody starting out AND liking the big brain dude.
As a financial advisor I have to explain to people everyday that overinflated value is not a baseline that you should be using to make investment decisions. The last combat patrol was overvalued and underpriced. The new combat patrol was not going to allow that to become a trend. This doesn’t mean it’s bad at all. Also your bike proxy dude looks awesome.
Honestly that Magus model was a warcrime against the actual value of the box, nobody wants to buy that model without a Primus or Patriarch. Imagine if it actually had a good character it would be an autobuy.
I got this from my local shop but I'm just at a loss for my flavor of gcs I like the nomadic idea of rusted claw but I've always thought of my image of gsc is more like the hive cult genesteals need hive city's to make 5th and 6th generation brood cycles. I like infantry heavy fast moving urban fighting infantry but I don't know which detachment fits that aesthetic yet. I'll keep playing and see what kind of trouble I can cause for the imperium.
@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber I liked there rule and strategems most I also have a substantial guard collection so I will eventually try the brood but on paper does not look that great
well that look bad but i dont think can be worse than sister BF. A battleforce has 16 unit. A traitor SM BF that literally has demon primarch in still has more model in that box.
@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Yeah that's true, but I woul dhave preferred them to stay the same - or get additional boxes that could be used in the CP game mode :D The whole thing is a huge missed opportunity
Please make content on our girls im nervous, it's my first codex Change. XD Maybe deeper thoughts on the 5man repentia squads and 3 across from the last box. What will happen to my girls! Lmao
Combat patrols these days are more about balancing the 40K into game Combat Patrol than the actually selling introductions to a faction
The manager at my local GW store flat told me that. Paraphrasing: “combat patrols aren’t supposed to be used to start an army, they’re supposed to be used to play the combat patrol game. They should have useful units to add to an existing army but getting new players into the faction? that’s what Battleforces are supposed to be for.”
@@thefloatingcontinent9897 Then bring back the god damn start collecting boxes instead...also I honestly don't know anyone who plays the 'combat patrol game'. Everyone I've seen get into it with 10th just goes straight into a lower points cost regular 40k game. And now they're looking to try to push Combat Patrol into AoS...so I can't imagine they're very happy about it either.
@@thefloatingcontinent9897sad thing when the battleforce sells out in 2 minutes flat (the good ones), or is genuinely not good (sisters one)
@@luketfer yeah that would be pretty great. A start collecting, even at a higher price point, that gave customers a sizable and good variety of units would probably sell well and have similar profit margins.
@@luketfer I did play Combat Patrol once, I very much did not like it. I enjoy unit building and flexibility and the only major choices you can make in combat patrol are what enhancement you put on your character, and even then, there is one obviously bad choice and one good choice so you dont really choose.
Carmian: combat patrols have to do two things
Me: combat and patrol
Carmian: no
Ok, that made me laugh
underrated comment.
My initial thoughts is that it isn't fantastic for a new player, significantly worse than the previous one, *but* it's pretty great for existing buyers of the previous combat patrol/battleforce to round out their collection.
I think it's fine for a new player, though it is a bit skewed, like the Ork Beast Snagga patrol. They're both good, it's just also they're both one specific aspect of the army rather than a varied starter platter.
I assume GW does factor in the previous boxes of the faction to determine new ones, y'know, just to make sure they aren't too samey.
However, it is also GW, so I assume malicious cost saving measures on their part before I assume they are being considerate of long-term fans of a faction.
I assume they aren't trying to round out peoples collections, they just needed different units from the previous patrol and wanted to put less value in it, which coincidentally rounds out the previous patrol.
one thing, not every combat patrol has had battle line units. The original space marine one for this edition is noticeably lacking in this and they gave you a stratagem to be able to sticky objectives.
keep me correct!
Thank the gods I watched this video before the combat patrol came out. I was planning on getting it as I need the Jacakls and Ridgerunner, and figured 10 more ACOLYTE HYBRIDS won’t hurt. Now knowing there just hybrid metamorphs I’ll just buy the two kits I need. Thanks
They should be able to be built alternatively into the 10 acolytes no? And if you wanted to play an actually combat patrol I'm sure that proxying them wouldn't be too much work.
I mean, maybe the hybrids will be good in the new codex
@@AltinesI am from the future, they’re aight
Ever since the 40k MTG decks came out, Atalan Jackal as a card has been finding its way into almost every red+green deck in my community. I'm actually really stoked that there's a discount box with them in it
A great day when the true vampire lord posts!
All hail our vampire overlord!
As a new player to GSC, I think these boxes are great. I bought 2 of the last patrol boxsets and some genestealers, 1 squad of bikes. So this expands my army in different ways, more genestealers and aberrants to go that way, more trucks and bikes for mechanized list if it works out, more metamorphs or hybrids, more Neophytes if I need to, and ridgerunners. Saying that, I can see how some people who have been playing them longer may not enjoy the boxsets. You'll probably never have a better patrol boxset like last one, I do like how it's different options, so you have a chance to expand for cheaper. .....if you bought the old boxset of course.
That Jackal Alpha you made look great!
thank you!
The kit bashed Jackal looks great.
I think I'll steal that idea.
thanks!
I think one of the best parts of playing a human(and gsc) faction, is you've got lots of other armys to draw on. Guard, Sisters, ad mech, Imperial Agents and GSC can all kinda borrow bits and bobs from eachother.
Just not quite as great as being an ork and being able to snag da good bitz from whoeva wez want to.
Yeah, I am excited for this combat patrol just because it has all other units that I already don't have. But as our teacher and preacher on four armed Emperor said... you don't really need two of those. Thankfully I listened to him and got two of old ones before they sold out (nabbed literally the last one that came in my country).
I bought three of the amazing 9th ed Combat Patrol. . . So I own no bikes and no snipers. . . So I will buy two of these 10th ed Combat Patrols, and the kill team for my warlord.
If you just need the patriarch, magus, or primus, they also sell them as the broodcoven on their own. (The new kill team is pretty sweet though)
Me, who got the old CP before this, and is only looking to build 1000pts:
Wooohoooo!
M y issue with Combat patrols is that thwyre removing transports from alot of them. EonsOfBattle said it in a video and i couldnt agree with it more "Transports are importants and good units but buying transports sucks because theyre not exciting". Him saying that mare me realize i never straight bought a single transport theyve all been from bigger boxes.
Thats what makes the new Tau CP look great, got a transport included.
@B1-997 Agreed I'm glad they managed to keep one in their combat patrol
Personally I like the New one.
I have the Old one of course.
But! I think getting some of the 5 Model Packs at a discount is good!
I got the gsc shadow throne half, two old combat patrol and a boarding patrol. This new combat patrol almost completes my entire gsc range.
I'm glad that metamorphs may become battleline - finally, mine may see more play
Combat Patrol magazine gives every army one unit extra. For genestealer cult it is one box of jackals
Yea, after having ran þe numbers myself during a lunch break, þe new boxes are… not great, but not þe absolute dog water people were claiming during þe stream. But I suppose anyþing would look awful compared to þe Hand of the Magus we’ve enjoyed for so long.
Now I need to adjust my numbers from a while back, but safe to say þe value of þis new Combat Patrol is not getting better. Why þe Jackal is $45.00 is beyond me, but c’est la vie.
Also, I already ran all þe numbers; I posted it in _your_ Discord server. I tried to save you so much time… or at least half an hour. 😅
Everything is an improvement on the Dark Angel’s one where you get a character that can’t be attached to anything in the box
Hachette's Combat Patrol Magazine has me worried at the moment. Between the test run and the actual product there were changes to at least Imperium and Stormbringer, small changes but changes.
At least I hope that it really includes the old CPs and that the old ones weren't just a placeholder for the new ones. Because of those included, only the Space Marines and Tyranid CPs were already known in the new variant.
For me: if old CPs, then hopefully a publication here in Germany (like Conquest, Imperium and Stormbringer - Mortal Realms was not published here) and then I have 2 subscriptions. If there is also the announced Premium content, then both subscriptions will also become Premium.
I managed to pick up one of the old Combat Patrol at the discounted price when they got discontinued, so I would very much like to get the Battleforce and new Combat Patrol to finish out a varied force of the army as a good starting point! Probably get more Neophytes over time. Good video!
I want that combat patrol box since some of the vehicles are on my gene stealer cult list
1:20 "Every single Combat Patrol has had a Battleline unit included..."
Combat Patrol: Space Marines has 2 Terminator leader characters, a 5-man Infernus Squad and a 5-man Terminator Squad; no Battleline units.
Additionally, the Vanguard Spearhead set they rereleased afterwards has a Phobos Lieutenant, 10 Infiltrators, 3 Eliminators and 3 Suppressors; no Battleline units.
I keep forgetting the SM one because it is Leviathan but smaller.
I know the Vanguard set has rules in White Dwarf but I don't think it got a Combat Patrol box release
@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Strike Team Solarien is a Phobos Librarian and the Vanguard Task Force box without eliminator. now they are out of stock
As someone who bought 3 of the old GSC combat patrol, I’m pretty stoked about the new one. We knew it was going to be bad but it could’ve been worse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
I just picked up the satanic broodsurge battle force at 182 USD on Amazon. I’m happy, it feels like a solid discount over buying separately at that price.
I’m wanting gene Steelers, but I’m gonna spend the money and get the new one from the under hive
I usually purchase models through Amazon as it is cheaper but once I realized they were taking the previous combat patrol away, I ran to a local game store who was selling them full price and bought 2 of them at full GW price😭
I bought 3 when they were on sale on Amazon. . . I was so happy. . . I bought 6 of the thousands son ones too for I think $58 a peace.
@@LordFueFue you must love tzangors alot.
Honestly all they needed to do for these CP was to just add in one extra unit to make up for what's being taken out (Sisters for example lost both a Rhino+PE without anything taking their place).
As for anyone who'd bring up balance for the CP game mode, take a look at the Custodes box and their rules. Custodes are only able to use 40-50% of their box in CP mode, this means GW could give great value in the boxes, and then adjust the rules/ limit units in the game mode to balance.....but that doesn't maximize profit.
We get 2 trucks with the battleforce :)
I like this new GSC combat patrol. I don’t get hung up on dissecting the rules and complaining about what doesn’t come in it. I go by the rule of cool. That’s all that matters to me. WH is supposed to fun not dissecting it to the point of taking all the fun out of it. My opinion.
HOW TO START GSC CHEAP: Ebay sometimes have listings for Deathwatch Overkill for $120-$150. These don't have the Space Marines and/or are partially built sometimes. The models are all push-fit mono-pose but you get everything you need to start an army.
I’m fine with GW changing combat patrol boxes into sets of models to be played against other Patrols but not fine with them refusing to change the price to match.
Honestly I think if you make a few armature with empty head and arm sockets you can have both Acolytes and Metamorphs which gives you more infantry more units and more points per dollar.
Old Ork kits are the Goat of modeling kits. Could use ork boyz, lootas burners storm boyz heck even nobz kits works so well for bit bashing.
Oh boy, am I glad I grabbed 4 copies of the old Combat Patrol. I might end up grabbing one of the new Combat Patrol boxes since I don't have any bikes. Although. . . the new Battleforce is rather tempting🤔.
The third thing a CP box should do (and IMO most important) is be fun and effectove to play in actual games of combat patrol.
I like to get CP boxes i know i'll never have the army for just for combat patrol game variety
The new Combat patrol looks like a alternative version of the old start collecting box, just swapping the iconward n' neo's for bikers and the alpha... that was £55 I bought 5 of them 😢 I also bought 2 of the old Combat patrol although the new patrol is OK, I doubt many will be buying multiple
Cutting out the literal backbone of the GSC faction entirely for what is supposed to essentially be a box made for people with little to no prior investment in a faction sure is a decision. It feels like someone with no understanding of the faction saw the early meta for GSC at the beginning of 10ed and said, "Yeah, that'll sell well".
Man... I feel like I'm gonna grab a couple Drukhari combat patrols ASAP - I don't play them yet, but I know I want to someday and the way these are going... eesh.
Luckily picked up 3 of the old combat patrol, but been wanting bikes so 2 may be a reasonable value for filling the missing gaps
I literally went and bought the drukari combat patrol because I knew they eould screw up the 10th refresh
The GSC Combat Patrol isn't for starting players. It's for players that bought 3x the previous combat patrol but avoided the bikes and vehicles because of the price of that crap, so you can finally have them for something approaching a reasonable price. I wouldn't recommend GSC to starting players anymore.
Man am I sick of multi-part monopose. I lost it when I assembled Chaos Cultists and then Genestealer Neophyte Hybrids back to back.
Ooooo... based on what they have done will we get sticky from hybrids.
The new character being included in the Battleforce is actually a significant drawback for me - and the reason I will not get it. I think the Benefictus sculpt is hideous, and I do NOT want the "official" GW model. Without it though, the Battleforces value drops off massively, and I am not interested too much in the rest of the stuff in it either. So, hard pass for me.
Still a solid box for anybody starting out AND liking the big brain dude.
Why are the Genestealers so mining themed?
am glad i was able yo buy another old gsc combat patrol, but am glad the new one is basically a good amount of filler units for me
The thing is people who bought the old combat patrols~~ have something to buy…
The dwarves have multipart and you can pose the arms. They are from modern gw
That truck kinda looks cool…
well we dont know what the new codex do yet.
As a financial advisor I have to explain to people everyday that overinflated value is not a baseline that you should be using to make investment decisions.
The last combat patrol was overvalued and underpriced. The new combat patrol was not going to allow that to become a trend. This doesn’t mean it’s bad at all.
Also your bike proxy dude looks awesome.
Honestly that Magus model was a warcrime against the actual value of the box, nobody wants to buy that model without a Primus or Patriarch. Imagine if it actually had a good character it would be an autobuy.
Haven't seen that rule about transports. This edition really doesn't have any redeeming value, does it?
I got this from my local shop but I'm just at a loss for my flavor of gcs I like the nomadic idea of rusted claw but I've always thought of my image of gsc is more like the hive cult genesteals need hive city's to make 5th and 6th generation brood cycles. I like infantry heavy fast moving urban fighting infantry but I don't know which detachment fits that aesthetic yet. I'll keep playing and see what kind of trouble I can cause for the imperium.
I think a horde of fast moving infantry would be best suited by Xenocreed
@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber I liked there rule and strategems most I also have a substantial guard collection so I will eventually try the brood but on paper does not look that great
here for the sisters content but mannnnn what if GSC also 🤔
ah the Sisters to GSC - Von Carmian pipeline
well that look bad but i dont think can be worse than sister BF. A battleforce has 16 unit. A traitor SM BF that literally has demon primarch in still has more model in that box.
Both the GSC and Sisters Combat Patrol replacements have made me profoundly sad :(
thanks for commenting
I think we would have been very shocked if GW put out better Combat Patrols than we had
@@ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Yeah that's true, but I woul dhave preferred them to stay the same - or get additional boxes that could be used in the CP game mode :D The whole thing is a huge missed opportunity
I would like an army that is like this new Combat Patrol. I fast moving biker and vehicle army, but for geensellers this sucks.
No one is going around calling themselves a combat patrol player. These boxes are for the naive who don’t know about 40K points values and 3D printing
Please make content on our girls im nervous, it's my first codex Change. XD Maybe deeper thoughts on the 5man repentia squads and 3 across from the last box. What will happen to my girls! Lmao
I don't need the battle box. I don't need the battle box. I don't need the battle box. I don't nee-...
The old GSC was better then the new one by a mile.
I Crave Sisters of Battle content
Good video 🎉
probably not next video but the video after is the plan (leaks or sudden announcements notwithstanding)
I loke much of the music. Is there a source?
Most of the music is from Cat Records by Raelice
...For Necromunda
"its not as bad as you might think" yeah But its no where near as good as it was.
In case anyone doesn’t know, COMBAT PATROLS ARE NOT MULTI KITS. You can only build them one way
Most of them include multi part kits.
My box was. The old sisters patrol and the space marine one are monobuild
Transport have to units inside them at the start of the battle or they explode........ That is the dumbest thing i ever heard.
It's over