Pixar's Up was the closest we've gotten to showcasing companion love to children. Although the wife dies it showed the stages of love from new and exciting thru commitment and routine. Very wise girl.
"You can't marry a man you just met." "It doesn't matter! It's true love!" "Doesn't sound like true love." "We're only saying that love's a force that's powerful and strange. People make bad choices when they're mad or scared or stressed, but throw a little love that way and you'll bring out their best." "I don't know even what love is." "That's okay. I do! Love is putting someone else's needs before yours […]" "Love can thaw a frozen heart." A Disney film that teaches and explores the lines of what true love is and what it isn't.
I ended 3 relationships just because I thought that I don't love them anymore (it was actually no passion anymore as you said), I felt myself as a empty bottle no feelings & I thought if they were the correct persons it would always stay this flame in my heart, unfurtonatly I watched ur video just not, which means too late
I think her opinion it's accurate, but it shouldn't center on Disney. Disney was only created to teach kids magic, fantasy and innocence. There are other many examples that apply today, all the stories passed to the cinema, all the books. It's a different generation now and they are growing up with this an not Disney stories. Een Disney has change with stories like Bra
According to my grandparents love is " being there for someone in success and failure, never giving up on someone even if they are giving up on you, supporting their every dreams and goals, accepting everything about them." Now they have children who are successful,responsible and happily married with their partners ;and have grandchildrens who also are responsible and happy. They are married for 50 years.
I like what she's saying. She's not saying Disney dictates our views, but rather, that the models of relationship by today's standards have become even more skewed. She's also bringing to light the fact that, whether we know it or not, we are directly affected by what we see, especially from our childhood.
the tangy feeling which comes and goes away that you call love isn't love, it is an attraction. US people don't think deeply and just flow with their attraction.but in other countries like in Asia, people know to control attraction and find love(hence stable marriage)
She is extremely Brilliant..with her outward look of what love can bring in possibilities for a relationship or in a commitment such as marriage . she will End up genuinely happy with her one and only TRUE (Real ) Love. So will everyone else who Doesn't give up or like, most cases, get bored and selfishly leave thier "old" love that THEY irresponsibly promised to love always ..for "someONE" "new". Love is No lie
Guys. Listen to the whole message. The point was to critcal thinking about healthy love and the misconception people have sometimes. Disney is really great to show the one side of love but not the whole picture. In which she is trying to establish a common understanding that it is a part of the things we sometimes still live in from our childhood. In which, our expectations of unrealistic relationships doesn't mature begins to backfire. She is not dissing disney. She is just saying that some of us, including me, love Disney but there are things in life that separate reality and fantasy. And that there is a fine line because in both dimensions, because they somewhat cross each other but they are different.
The one Disney film that really gets companionate love is Up. Well, to me at least. It actually shows a couple going through so many stages in life, together, as best friends, even if their shared screen time in about 5 minutes.
This young woman did a great job speaking and her message was good. Of course you shouldn't try to understand the world based on cartoons, but that's what she was saying. She's not complaining, she's explaining. I want to add to what she said. Love is not a feeling, it's an action. It's a choice to put the other person's needs in front of your own. It's choosing to hope for their best, even when you disagree with them. That's why you can love someone whom you don't like.
I agree with her message here. Loving someone is about having a lifelong companion, someone you can be free to show your flaws with. Sure passion is a part of it but it should never be the main focus if you want a lasting relationship. Passion and that high-on-air feeling can't carry a relationship, it's hard work. At least that's my opinion, but I wouldn't really know. I've never been in a relationship!
uh there's some truth there esp w Disney and its false perceptions of LOVE etc .but honestly I think people first rush into marriage/ get married for the wrong reasons, and then don't want to take the time to FIX IT! Key concept being they don't want to take the time and effort to work out the relationship. We constantly have full plates and sometimes a marriage isn't worth putting onto that plate so to speak. To me love is constant, through highs and lows, it inspires me to be a better person.
It is charming to see that an opinion that some of us found at a young age (22-ish for myself), but some of us never do. Yes, she is young, yes she quotes some iffy sources, and yes she sounds like someone who memorized too much of her talk, but that doesn't change the fact that she is pretty on-mark with a lot of her points...the images at the end are contrived, but they still serve her overall message. Watch and maybe learn something :)
It's funny how alot of people make fun of the girl for how she presents it with Disney but it's sorta true when you realize young adult relationships, myself included, have shifted from a series of committed relationships that didn't work out to alot more noncommited "relationships" that are actually hooking up over and over.
The words she's looking for are commitment, effort and selflessness. Relationships based on 'you make me happy' or rather 'you have to make me happy' rely so much on the other fulfilling you...but what happens when both partners agree to work at thinking about the other more. A giving relationship on equal parts. I loved what she said about 'giving up'. If you give up, stop making an effort for each other, of course the relationship gets bland. I don't usually comment on youtube, due to the storms of insults that seem to follow the simplest of statements -_-'...well, here goes nothing.
Watching her reminds me of my forensics competition. It's something so distinguishable about people that do original oratory. An introduction that grabs people's attention. Change of voice to emphasize statements. Citation of psychology from ____ university. Gesticulations. Even having under ten minutes. Pretty well done.
She says that Disney doesn't teach companionship love. But I think the Carl and Ellie from Up perfectly exemplify all the qualities of companionship love that were talked about.
If a princess marries a prince and be happy after a tragic early life means possibilities. teaches you not to give up and stuff, not how you can proceed your life in an exact way and expect the outcome as the ending of a movie. It's up to you to choose the right motive and Disney makes other types of movies.
I can't believe there's people who actually liked this, she's saying that the real love is loving the routine, and learning to live with it. Real love is when you care so much you find a way to make the routine passionate, real love is never getting comfortable and always finding a way to surprise your mate. That's what real love is, It's when you care so much for a person no matter what you're going throw, you find a way to keep the passion alive. That, for me, is what real love is
Why do you always need to be surprised? Why is 'keeping the passion alive' the most important thing? Why not just always be there for someone? To support them in their hopes and dreams? To put them first? To know their secrets and trust them with yours? To protect them no matter what? Sure some excitement is great. Passion is great. But we can get that from a movie. What we can't get is someone to care about in the ways I listed above, or someone who will care about us.
+Sebastian van Praag Everything you've said just proves her point even more. Passion is probably only a small portion of lasting love in relationships. Crashes and burns, while 'companionship' takes it on a longer steady road. If the passion, or "thrill'' as some will call it, starts to die down, people start to lose hope. Then it proves that what you call 'love' is only on the surface, nothing rooted in kindness, loyalty, trust, care, etc. Your idea of real love will wane instantly without any thought of rekindling it.
The speach itself was quite interesting. I'd like to point one thing out though. My parents got divorced when I was 20, so two months ago. Sure it was hard to witness their divorce. But what was even harder was the time when they tried to stick together. When no one during dinner would say a word, and every minor joke turned into a fight. And when they fighted on christmas over the fact that my father still gave my mother a present. But I don't anyone was at fault. Divorces sure aren't easy, but sticking together for the sake of sticking together..My parents tried their best in their 35 years of marriage. But sometimes things just happen the way they do. And if people are happier after that, I think that'd be for the better.
And this is why mothers and fathers need to teach their kids how to distinguish fantasy and reality and not blame television, movies and cartoons. People don't work anymore to maintain relationships. Love is more than happiness. Love is work. There is a very immature outlook on love and marriage in todays society. It's sad. My parents have been happily married for over 3 decades, through some rough times and they bicker and fight and in the end they are each others rocks. Love is commitment.
You know, you people in the comments opposing her statement are already intelligent themselves. Don't expect everyone in the internet or watching whatever wouldn't have expectations after seeing such impossibly desirable things. Most people are gullible enough to hope and believe so people set expectations even far beyond their reach because of the influence of media and entertainment. Basically, this is her point. If you rely on these expectations, the it would lead to break ups. Instead, treat love to be an understanding of 2 people so that you could get through highs and lows of a relationship that it could lead to the "happily ever after."
" Marriage " is a celestial sacred commitment ,and love is a single component will spontaneously transform by time to a passionate bond ,combined with eagerness & faithfulness . Predominantly in Western World couples don't adhere that concept seriously ! but De facto treat it as a temporary relation built on sex ,lust and material desires. Hey people...! sometimes freewill choice is NOT that good for your kids.
There is so much more she could say about Disney besides "it's twisting our view on what love is"...so much more someone could talk about besides Disney, too...but oh well, she's 17.
O God a 17 year old talking about love and relationships. She does have some good points but they are under the shadow of her pushing for many very iffy points and several iffy sources. True disney does not continue on about what comes after except when you look at the parents. In the lion king Simba grows up and has to deal with a daughter. Who he is raising with Nala his wife. Whom he still loves yeah it is not the flashy passionate love of a new couple but it does show that they love each other. It is the "companion love that your talking about. If you want a lesson on love your not supost to look to disney. Those movies are for the kids and the adults having kids. She does have a point that most people don't know the different phases of love but you can''t blame that on Disney alone. The different phases of Love should be taught in health/sex ed in school but it is not. True companion love is where you want to end up but you can't complain that disney does not tell us about it or show it. All you have to do is look at the background characters to see it. The young main characters are the flashy love ones but the background characters often show us what we need to see.
You mean Pixar. Disney just puts its owner's label on it after the people at Pixar make the film entirely on their own. Give credit where credit is due.
I 80% agree. the problem is I've been watching guys an girls who stayed in a marriage because love is supposed to be for ever, who keep desperately trying to hold back to someone who is not worth it or doesn't feel the same way. or even worse... because can't stand the loneliness
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 1 Corinthians 13:4
to be fair, I think Disney and RomComs only show the passion because those movies do take place in the honeymoon phase, and there's only so much time to tell the story. One movie that did seem to do it is The Five Year Engagement (the Notebook did as well, but only in the later aspect that no one pays attention to where they're in the nursing home but I digress)
Why do we have to think that "that" person is the only one who understands you, or gets your jokes, your sense of humor, that listens to you? She continues thinking about Disney ideal of love. It is true love is not just butterflies, you have to keep on working on it everyday but believe me, love doesn't mean we have to focus in that only person or just wait to talk to that person. We can get a happy ending if we want it with ourselves. People leave, they vanish, one day they stop loving you or they just give up on the things that kept you together and you have just to be strong enough to discover that you are the true love of your life. The only one who should understand your own jokes, your own personality, who should accept you because of you. It doesn't matter what others think, say or do. Eventually you'll find somebody who you can share your life with, bit just share not giblet it to him or her. She's got good thoughts, but she still believes in the one. That idea is the worst idea of all the ideas related to love.
She's right, my ex told me that he was the only one trying in our relationship. When in reality, I'm can't always be there to make everything better and drop everything I'm holding just to be there for you. Just because I don't give you attention for 1 day doesn't mean I lost interest in you, you can't expect me to do all these things and to do them all at once. Passion is key in a relationship but you can't expect it to be all that's on my mind. Then I realized I'm a lesbian and I don't like dudes at all. First and last dude I'll ever date. So that's the other part of why we broke up and I'm glad and he's a dick anyway so I don't give a shit about him anymore.
Yes, rely on Disney to raise your children. There is no "10 years down the road" for Cinderella because Cinderella is a story that ends off at Happily Ever After. I'm glad people realize that's not realistic all the time, but that doesn't mean the cynicism regarding such fairytale endings is great either.
As a heterosexual man I know you want to know what men like me want. Obviously when we're young, it's really all about sex. But then later in life, we want a meaningful relationship and sex is irrelevant. An open and honest relationship is what we all need but not everyone has that luxury. We all should be open and honest in every relationship whether or not it involves intimacy. That type of relationship should be how it is for a business rapport, and every relationship we all have. Because we don't want to be betrayed, denigrated, lose respect, that is why we all should be honest and open; and not hide anything about ourselves. Once the truth comes out, then things would get ugly real quickly.
Well said. Love is not a feeling, it's a commitment. But using Disney, saying they're twisting our perspective and basically ruining relationships across America or the globe is a bit out of proportion. Disney teaches so much more than about love lives. They teach hard work and not giving up will pay off. Instead of losing hope and treating people like they treat you, you should hold on to the belief that things will get better because they will. Disney is more than just "I've married a prince". Sure the classics (Cinderella, Snow White and Sleeping Beauty) could have done better but they Cinderella teaches you kindness and not to give up. I think the things that surround young teens all the way to college graduate is what is what is wrong. Titanic, Notebook, all those chic flicks are the ones that do a bad job at showing what love really is. Because like I said, it's not a feeling, it's a commitment. And I think that what she said is true, but it's not Disney's fault.
I think the main problem with Disney is that we drown our kids in it every waking moment of their lives! Let’s keep the Disney movies (and all fiction) far and few in between, so that us humans can get back in touch with our real selves.
What she’s quoting are fairy tales...meant to be dramatic and romanticized. I don’t really meet people who honestly believe you can fall in love so easily. I don’t really think it’s Disney’s place to discuss elements of divorce. They’ve done the “after happily after after” and it didn’t go well
That's my thinking style. I don't know do we even buy into such cheesy, fairy tale like fantasies. Another thing that Disney and the stupid media doesn't tell us is the reality of life and love. That only God can plan your destiny, not you. You can't force someone to love you when you're friendzoned just for the mere sake of seeking validation from others. You''ve got to love and empower yourself first to see if that special someone deserves you or not. So it is time to put away The Notebook and look up to positive role models for a change. That is my motto.
this is not really about disney. also there is the movie frozen now, which is trying its hardest to overturn those norms created 20 years ago. they know they goofed and are trying to fix it.
Why is Disney in the title and Cinderella was 1955 Beauty and the Beast taught me that getting to know someone is how youre going to love UP had this love And Disney has changed 1955 was a different decade Disney taught me to have dreams because thats what Disney now focuses on Hopes and Dreams. My punctuation is horrible.
So, there is passionate and compassionate love.. Psychologist Elaine Hatfield has described two different types of love: compassionate love and passionate love. Compassionate love involves feelings of mutual respect, trust and affection, while passionate love involves intense feelings and sexual attraction. Seems like Disney do have the kinds which show trust/affection/respect.. (Btw, is it safe to assume that she is talking about "romantic love" only?)
She seems to understand love more than some adults do
Pixar's Up was the closest we've gotten to showcasing companion love to children. Although the wife dies it showed the stages of love from new and exciting thru commitment and routine. Very wise girl.
Don't even apologize for being 17. you are making a constructive argument. kudos girl!
"When does Ryan Gosling run after me and kiss me in the rain?"
Preach.
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I like her, and her opinions and her wordplay and word flow. She's cool.
Disney didn't teach me what love is....Disney taught me to "Let it Goooo!!"
"You can't marry a man you just met."
"It doesn't matter! It's true love!" "Doesn't sound like true love."
"We're only saying that love's a force that's powerful and strange. People make bad choices when they're mad or scared or stressed, but throw a little love that way and you'll bring out their best."
"I don't know even what love is." "That's okay. I do! Love is putting someone else's needs before yours […]"
"Love can thaw a frozen heart."
A Disney film that teaches and explores the lines of what true love is and what it isn't.
I ended 3 relationships just because I thought that I don't love them anymore (it was actually no passion anymore as you said), I felt myself as a empty bottle no feelings & I thought if they were the correct persons it would always stay this flame in my heart, unfurtonatly I watched ur video just not, which means too late
wow she is 17? damn i feel so dumb.. great speaker too. sigh.. what am i doing with my life..
your believeing words are not your form of coding
Jay R don't worry man. We all take life at our own pace
I think her opinion it's accurate, but it shouldn't center on Disney. Disney was only created to teach kids magic, fantasy and innocence. There are other many examples that apply today, all the stories passed to the cinema, all the books. It's a different generation now and they are growing up with this an not Disney stories. Een Disney has change with stories like Bra
preach. Society needs to think like her
According to my grandparents love is " being there for someone in success and failure, never giving up on someone even if they are giving up on you, supporting their every dreams and goals, accepting everything about them." Now they have children who are successful,responsible and happily married with their partners ;and have grandchildrens who also are responsible and happy. They are married for 50 years.
What a gifted speaker! She is definitely passionate about her topic. I look forward to what else this young woman brings in the future.
What a wise 17 year old. I hope my daughters aspire to think like this is the near future. To see reality.
I like what she's saying. She's not saying Disney dictates our views, but rather, that the models of relationship by today's standards have become even more skewed. She's also bringing to light the fact that, whether we know it or not, we are directly affected by what we see, especially from our childhood.
自分と同じ17歳の人がこれほどにもいいスピーチをしているのだから、スピーチの内容以前に自分もしっかりしようと思った。
the tangy feeling which comes and goes away that you call love isn't love, it is an attraction. US people don't think deeply and just flow with their attraction.but in other countries like in Asia, people know to control attraction and find love(hence stable marriage)
What a beautiful and truthful insight into relationships by a seventeen year old.
Her speech is great all the way to the end.
She is extremely Brilliant..with her outward look of what love can bring in possibilities for a relationship or in a commitment such as marriage . she will End up genuinely happy with her one and only TRUE (Real ) Love. So will everyone else who Doesn't give up or like, most cases, get bored and selfishly leave thier "old" love that THEY irresponsibly promised to love always ..for "someONE" "new". Love is No lie
As well as the content, her way to give the presentation is so attractive.
it is so charming to watch it and the words flow at this young age is great. She is 17 but so matured talk.
Guys. Listen to the whole message. The point was to critcal thinking about healthy love and the misconception people have sometimes. Disney is really great to show the one side of love but not the whole picture. In which she is trying to establish a common understanding that it is a part of the things we sometimes still live in from our childhood. In which, our expectations of unrealistic relationships doesn't mature begins to backfire. She is not dissing disney. She is just saying that some of us, including me, love Disney but there are things in life that separate reality and fantasy. And that there is a fine line because in both dimensions, because they somewhat cross each other but they are different.
The one Disney film that really gets companionate love is Up. Well, to me at least. It actually shows a couple going through so many stages in life, together, as best friends, even if their shared screen time in about 5 minutes.
This young woman did a great job speaking and her message was good.
Of course you shouldn't try to understand the world based on cartoons, but that's what she was saying. She's not complaining, she's explaining.
I want to add to what she said. Love is not a feeling, it's an action. It's a choice to put the other person's needs in front of your own. It's choosing to hope for their best, even when you disagree with them. That's why you can love someone whom you don't like.
she was absolutely great. very well spoken. this talk was wonderful.
I agree with her message here. Loving someone is about having a lifelong companion, someone you can be free to show your flaws with. Sure passion is a part of it but it should never be the main focus if you want a lasting relationship. Passion and that high-on-air feeling can't carry a relationship, it's hard work. At least that's my opinion, but I wouldn't really know. I've never been in a relationship!
They do teach us this it's called UP! I do agree with everything she is saying though. I just realized there is a disney movie that follows her ideas.
PIXAR movie
Wow! How can you have discovered what most of us only figure out after about 40 years of life?! Very heartfelt and very poignant. Excellent talk!
Amen girl ! That's what Disney and our folks around us should teach and show !
uh there's some truth there esp w Disney and its false perceptions of LOVE etc .but honestly I think people first rush into marriage/ get married for the wrong reasons, and then don't want to take the time to FIX IT! Key concept being they don't want to take the time and effort to work out the relationship. We constantly have full plates and sometimes a marriage isn't worth putting onto that plate so to speak.
To me love is constant, through highs and lows, it inspires me to be a better person.
She's an amazing speaker!! This is so true!
It is charming to see that an opinion that some of us found at a young age (22-ish for myself), but some of us never do. Yes, she is young, yes she quotes some iffy sources, and yes she sounds like someone who memorized too much of her talk, but that doesn't change the fact that she is pretty on-mark with a lot of her points...the images at the end are contrived, but they still serve her overall message. Watch and maybe learn something :)
I think love is when even if ur mad the person you still want to be with them, they are your best friend, and there isn't as much passion as love.
finally! I've been waiting a long time to hear a talk like this :) what a well spoken 17 year old
Great speech :)
It's funny how alot of people make fun of the girl for how she presents it with Disney but it's sorta true when you realize young adult relationships, myself included, have shifted from a series of committed relationships that didn't work out to alot more noncommited "relationships" that are actually hooking up over and over.
The words she's looking for are commitment, effort and selflessness. Relationships based on 'you make me happy' or rather 'you have to make me happy' rely so much on the other fulfilling you...but what happens when both partners agree to work at thinking about the other more. A giving relationship on equal parts. I loved what she said about 'giving up'. If you give up, stop making an effort for each other, of course the relationship gets bland. I don't usually comment on youtube, due to the storms of insults that seem to follow the simplest of statements -_-'...well, here goes nothing.
She's an amazing speaker. Captivating!
Watching her reminds me of my forensics competition. It's something so distinguishable about people that do original oratory. An introduction that grabs people's attention. Change of voice to emphasize statements. Citation of psychology from ____ university. Gesticulations. Even having under ten minutes.
Pretty well done.
Such an amazing speaker!
Brilliant talk.
She says that Disney doesn't teach companionship love. But I think the Carl and Ellie from Up perfectly exemplify all the qualities of companionship love that were talked about.
If a princess marries a prince and be happy after a tragic early life means possibilities. teaches you not to give up and stuff, not how you can proceed your life in an exact way and expect the outcome as the ending of a movie. It's up to you to choose the right motive and Disney makes other types of movies.
I can't believe there's people who actually liked this, she's saying that the real love is loving the routine, and learning to live with it. Real love is when you care so much you find a way to make the routine passionate, real love is never getting comfortable and always finding a way to surprise your mate. That's what real love is, It's when you care so much for a person no matter what you're going throw, you find a way to keep the passion alive. That, for me, is what real love is
Why do you always need to be surprised? Why is 'keeping the passion alive' the most important thing? Why not just always be there for someone? To support them in their hopes and dreams? To put them first? To know their secrets and trust them with yours? To protect them no matter what? Sure some excitement is great. Passion is great. But we can get that from a movie. What we can't get is someone to care about in the ways I listed above, or someone who will care about us.
+Sebastian van Praag Everything you've said just proves her point even more. Passion is probably only a small portion of lasting love in relationships. Crashes and burns, while 'companionship' takes it on a longer steady road. If the passion, or "thrill'' as some will call it, starts to die down, people start to lose hope. Then it proves that what you call 'love' is only on the surface, nothing rooted in kindness, loyalty, trust, care, etc. Your idea of real love will wane instantly without any thought of rekindling it.
This girl is wise beyond her years.
That was a good speech! Your pretty too!
this seriously made me cry
brava. such an insightful person
The speach itself was quite interesting. I'd like to point one thing out though. My parents got divorced when I was 20, so two months ago. Sure it was hard to witness their divorce. But what was even harder was the time when they tried to stick together. When no one during dinner would say a word, and every minor joke turned into a fight. And when they fighted on christmas over the fact that my father still gave my mother a present. But I don't anyone was at fault. Divorces sure aren't easy, but sticking together for the sake of sticking together..My parents tried their best in their 35 years of marriage. But sometimes things just happen the way they do. And if people are happier after that, I think that'd be for the better.
Love is such a complex subject matter.
wow this was amazing!!!
She is incredible !
Love this!!!
u a very right, Ms Kraus...you are beyond your age
MIND BLOWN!
Any one of you who dislikes this: listen to HER!!! she is amazing! if you disagree. You are blinded. Open your inner mind.
"Open your inner mind" ?
Yep!
(:
Do you have an outer mind too?
Yep! i choose to only post what my inner mind says.
its a cartoon people!!! its meant for kids, its suppose to have a happy ending so you honestly expect it to end with divorce and cheating OMFG!!!!
She's addressing society as a whole.
And this is why mothers and fathers need to teach their kids how to distinguish fantasy and reality and not blame television, movies and cartoons.
People don't work anymore to maintain relationships. Love is more than happiness. Love is work.
There is a very immature outlook on love and marriage in todays society. It's sad. My parents have been happily married for over 3 decades, through some rough times and they bicker and fight and in the end they are each others rocks. Love is commitment.
Thank you
I wanted this meseage‼︎
You know, you people in the comments opposing her statement are already intelligent themselves. Don't expect everyone in the internet or watching whatever wouldn't have expectations after seeing such impossibly desirable things. Most people are gullible enough to hope and believe so people set expectations even far beyond their reach because of the influence of media and entertainment. Basically, this is her point. If you rely on these expectations, the it would lead to break ups. Instead, treat love to be an understanding of 2 people so that you could get through highs and lows of a relationship that it could lead to the "happily ever after."
" Marriage " is a celestial sacred commitment ,and love is a single component will spontaneously transform by time to a passionate bond ,combined with eagerness & faithfulness .
Predominantly in Western World couples don't adhere that concept seriously ! but De facto treat it as a temporary relation built on sex ,lust and material desires.
Hey people...! sometimes freewill choice is NOT that good for your kids.
These are 8 minutes lots of people should listen to twice.
"Love is taking that dive and getting really comfortable and peeing in the pool."- Bo Burnham
There is so much more she could say about Disney besides "it's twisting our view on what love is"...so much more someone could talk about besides Disney, too...but oh well, she's 17.
The ted talk was specifically about love. Nothing more. Nothing less. You should have read the title of the video before clicking on it lmao.
O God a 17 year old talking about love and relationships. She does have some good points but they are under the shadow of her pushing for many very iffy points and several iffy sources. True disney does not continue on about what comes after except when you look at the parents. In the lion king Simba grows up and has to deal with a daughter. Who he is raising with Nala his wife. Whom he still loves yeah it is not the flashy passionate love of a new couple but it does show that they love each other. It is the "companion love that your talking about. If you want a lesson on love your not supost to look to disney. Those movies are for the kids and the adults having kids. She does have a point that most people don't know the different phases of love but you can''t blame that on Disney alone. The different phases of Love should be taught in health/sex ed in school but it is not. True companion love is where you want to end up but you can't complain that disney does not tell us about it or show it. All you have to do is look at the background characters to see it. The young main characters are the flashy love ones but the background characters often show us what we need to see.
Timothy Newell She was just using Disney as an introduction. Also, I think that the parents should be the ones to teach children about love.
Oh, to be a theatre kid again
she's a good speaker-->a passionate speaker
Agreed, but what she's saying isn't new info, I've been taught this since childhood. Love and passion aren't the same thing...
Disney apologized to us when they made "UP"
Right in the childhood
Disney's film "Up" portrays companion love very well :)
You mean Pixar. Disney just puts its owner's label on it after the people at Pixar make the film entirely on their own. Give credit where credit is due.
Does the movie "UP" count as companionate love?
It does.
OMG QUEEN SLAY!!!!!!
My grandparents haven't had sex since Nana got pregnant with Mom, but they still love each other despite that lack of passion.
so love isn't disney's cliches, it's yours
I 80% agree. the problem is I've been watching guys an girls who stayed in a marriage because love is supposed to be for ever, who keep desperately trying to hold back to someone who is not worth it or doesn't feel the same way. or even worse... because can't stand the loneliness
2018 inspiration 😳
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
1 Corinthians 13:4
awesome info to have at 14
to be fair, I think Disney and RomComs only show the passion because those movies do take place in the honeymoon phase, and there's only so much time to tell the story. One movie that did seem to do it is The Five Year Engagement (the Notebook did as well, but only in the later aspect that no one pays attention to where they're in the nursing home but I digress)
Who else thought she was wearing no pants at first?
Why do we have to think that "that" person is the only one who understands you, or gets your jokes, your sense of humor, that listens to you? She continues thinking about Disney ideal of love. It is true love is not just butterflies, you have to keep on working on it everyday but believe me, love doesn't mean we have to focus in that only person or just wait to talk to that person. We can get a happy ending if we want it with ourselves. People leave, they vanish, one day they stop loving you or they just give up on the things that kept you together and you have just to be strong enough to discover that you are the true love of your life. The only one who should understand your own jokes, your own personality, who should accept you because of you. It doesn't matter what others think, say or do. Eventually you'll find somebody who you can share your life with, bit just share not giblet it to him or her.
She's got good thoughts, but she still believes in the one. That idea is the worst idea of all the ideas related to love.
i have had the exact same line of tots and opinions!! WOW!!
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hehe...i type like that....somtimes...thaxx for correcting.. :)
goddamn, u should be a new disney princess
She's right, my ex told me that he was the only one trying in our relationship. When in reality, I'm can't always be there to make everything better and drop everything I'm holding just to be there for you. Just because I don't give you attention for 1 day doesn't mean I lost interest in you, you can't expect me to do all these things and to do them all at once. Passion is key in a relationship but you can't expect it to be all that's on my mind. Then I realized I'm a lesbian and I don't like dudes at all. First and last dude I'll ever date. So that's the other part of why we broke up and I'm glad and he's a dick anyway so I don't give a shit about him anymore.
Yes, rely on Disney to raise your children. There is no "10 years down the road" for Cinderella because Cinderella is a story that ends off at Happily Ever After. I'm glad people realize that's not realistic all the time, but that doesn't mean the cynicism regarding such fairytale endings is great either.
As a heterosexual man I know you want to know what men like me want. Obviously when we're young, it's really all about sex. But then later in life, we want a meaningful relationship and sex is irrelevant. An open and honest relationship is what we all need but not everyone has that luxury. We all should be open and honest in every relationship whether or not it involves intimacy. That type of relationship should be how it is for a business rapport, and every relationship we all have. Because we don't want to be betrayed, denigrated, lose respect, that is why we all should be honest and open; and not hide anything about ourselves. Once the truth comes out, then things would get ugly real quickly.
I didn’t pursue my crush because I didn’t think I liked him enough to be with him bc I wasn’t thinking about him like all the time
Well said. Love is not a feeling, it's a commitment.
But using Disney, saying they're twisting our perspective and basically ruining relationships across America or the globe is a bit out of proportion. Disney teaches so much more than about love lives. They teach hard work and not giving up will pay off. Instead of losing hope and treating people like they treat you, you should hold on to the belief that things will get better because they will. Disney is more than just "I've married a prince". Sure the classics (Cinderella, Snow White and Sleeping Beauty) could have done better but they Cinderella teaches you kindness and not to give up. I think the things that surround young teens all the way to college graduate is what is what is wrong. Titanic, Notebook, all those chic flicks are the ones that do a bad job at showing what love really is. Because like I said, it's not a feeling, it's a commitment. And I think that what she said is true, but it's not Disney's fault.
I think the main problem with Disney is that we drown our kids in it every waking moment of their lives! Let’s keep the Disney movies (and all fiction) far and few in between, so that us humans can get back in touch with our real selves.
What she’s quoting are fairy tales...meant to be dramatic and romanticized. I don’t really meet people who honestly believe you can fall in love so easily. I don’t really think it’s Disney’s place to discuss elements of divorce. They’ve done the “after happily after after” and it didn’t go well
That's my thinking style. I don't know do we even buy into such cheesy, fairy tale like fantasies. Another thing that Disney and the stupid media doesn't tell us is the reality of life and love. That only God can plan your destiny, not you. You can't force someone to love you when you're friendzoned just for the mere sake of seeking validation from others. You''ve got to love and empower yourself first to see if that special someone deserves you or not. So it is time to put away The Notebook and look up to positive role models for a change. That is my motto.
this is not really about disney. also there is the movie frozen now, which is trying its hardest to overturn those norms created 20 years ago. they know they goofed and are trying to fix it.
Sequential polygamy is somehow more morally acceptable than concurrent polygamy.
Why is Disney in the title and Cinderella was 1955 Beauty and the Beast taught me that getting to know someone is how youre going to love UP had this love And Disney has changed 1955 was a different decade Disney taught me to have dreams because thats what Disney now focuses on Hopes and Dreams. My punctuation is horrible.
thats a speak of heart !!! too much for a 17 ... clover girl !!!
So, there is passionate and compassionate love..
Psychologist Elaine Hatfield has described two different types of love: compassionate love and passionate love. Compassionate love involves feelings of mutual respect, trust and affection, while passionate love involves intense feelings and sexual attraction.
Seems like Disney do have the kinds which show trust/affection/respect..
(Btw, is it safe to assume that she is talking about "romantic love" only?)
God bless u dear
first chapter of pixar's up.
I'm gonna give her the happily ever after she needs
the problem is that you are trying to learn something FROM A DISNEY MOVIE... or tv or movies or ....
Exactly
It's purely for entertainment
Ty n.n
True; there's little to be gained from modern media. But stories are supposed to teach, to inspire, to illustrate cultural morals.