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Thanks for the work you’ve put in to create this. The way the app/website calculates or displays flinch resistance seems to be backwards or displays as backwards. Adding flinch resistance attachments displays as taking more flinch or at least displays as a negative on the chart. Like a green -50% flinch displays as a red negative on flinch indicator as if I’d be taking more flinch
I've had a lot of fun with the cor-45 for a while now. Not only does it have great ttk, I think the real power lies in its speed and mobility. You move across the map so fast! Other bonuses are that you can use it while climbing up ladders to peak roof campers and shoot them and also use it underwater when needed.
I love to see how far you've come bro. Glad to see new things added to the site to keep it fresh! Heres to 2024 and hope you have a fantastic christmas dude!
Also worth mentioning the ISO 9mm has easier recoil than the Swarm. I really enjoy the ISO 9mm with the canted laser, built for movement. Really fun gun and the canted laser is easier in cqb than full ads for MnK.
@@jamesv6241 canted laser, collapsed stock, 50rnd mags, chewk angled grip, and the barrel which gives extra movement and damage range (can't remember the name). The hipfire is nothing special from memory but the canted laser makes up for it (imo). I wish there was a way to make tac stance the default for certain guns rather than full ads - I'd use that all the time on smgs if it was available tbh. Double clicking for tac stance is a pain. Might have to get a three clicker mouse just to use it lol.
Brilliant video. One of my favourite things about warzone when it first came out was geeking out at the stats and comparing notes with friends. You're keeping this side of warzone alive when other streamers are either moaning or trying to focus on pure entertainment. Others whoare doing meta videos are rushing them out for clickbait. This is considered and evidence-based. Love it, thanks man.
Been running the Cor for a while now. There is a muzzle that is currently not unlockable, but you can use it in private matches. Once it becomes available it makes it so much easier to use.
You are a treasure to the community. If I can make a request, the MTZ 762 has been great but even better in single fire used like a DMR. I think a comparo vid with other weapons in single fire might be informative. The tempest Torrent is slept on hard too.
I think we were in the same plunder game when you were testing stuff. I was so surprised when I saw your name in the public chat. Keepp up the amazing work!
Per your recommendations I'm mastered the shroud when it came out and it was well worth it. Looks like I'll be doing the same thing with the COR - love the high skill high reward guns. Thanks Tony.
Unbelievable! I subscribed to bronze about 12 hours ago. Used meta gen to find the best movement smg. Cor-45 came up and I thought sweet no one knows about this yet. I then go to sleep as I’m in Australia then wake up to find you put this video out 😂 I guess the secret is out now lol
Can’t speak for mouse and keyboard players, but for controller players, the no stock striker build’s movement is my go to. It also has more manageable recoil compared to the swarm so I can’t take on fights a little further away.
I'm on MnK and I've been running the Striker, no stock, movement hand-stop, long barrel, reflector optic, and 48rnd mag. The movement is amazing and the recoil is so minimal, I find it very consistent. With the long barrel it extends its first range to something like 17m. Up close, I use the movement to my advantage and at 10+ meters, it has good range and recoil for mid range engagements. I have another build for more recoil control at mid range as a sniper support as well.
Same it’s tied with the wasp 9 for my favorite smg currently. No stock long barrel is such a good combo you can do whatever you want with your other 3 attachments personally I put the 48rnd mag, the first suppressor with no cons, and the dr6 handstop for more movement speed. I have a feeling it will become even better in the future because these other guns will be receiving the inevitable nerfs soon but the striker will likely be untouched
I run the iso 9 mm and it’s a laserbeam up to 50 meters, spiral v3.5 flash hider,9 mm high grain rounds, 50 round drum, nydar model 2023 and the vlk laser ( necrotic blueprint )
In the "MetaGen Close Range" section of the video, it has the attachments listed for the guns, is there a 5th attachment that is unseen, maybe in a dropdown menu? Or do you leave a 5th attachment option for Optic of choice? Or do you just run them with 4 attachments? Thank you
Hey Tony, appreciate all your hardwork and efforts that you put into TGD and these videos. Been using the tool for a few years now! I noticed for your builds you only have 4 attachments, what's the 5th and last attachment you use for the COR and WSP Swarm?
Thank you for the hard work you do man. Not new around here, but recently purchased a membership. Having a good time messing around on TGD. Looking forward to checking out metagen. Happy holidays man!
i dont think his meta gen close range gives any ar's or any converstions kits outside pistol, smg, shotgun a consideration but i could be wrong, if it did the basp smg, or ram7 smg would atleast appear or the mcw jak kit
Bas-B is better. It not only kills faster, but the 640 ttk stretches to about 40 meters or so. The striker's damage drops off very heavily after 12-18 meters and beyond. Definitely not sniper support worthy.
This game was so much fun back in the day, before meta.. everyone just experimenting with guns and builds. Now it’s just meta meta builds.. everyone running the same build.
FACTS. i remember when games didnt have metas and you had to find what gun fit you beat and whip ass with it. Now everyone has to literally run the same 2 guns
There’s always been a meta in Warzone even from day 1, mp7 and rpg. The rpg getting nerfed to the ground after. The snakeshots, Grauzone, Kilo, Kar98 I mean it goes on and on. Even the same attachments, it’s the nature of FPS, no one wants to get melted by OP meta build.
I’ve been using the mcw with the kit and it as the same ttk as the swarm not only that it can shoot further and almost have the same mobility( only downside is the highest mag is 40)
I started to use that one yesterday as a sniper support. No one talks about it as of yet even though it has great TTK and 20m range before the first drop off.
@@Ali_new-kk9mc I'm on vacation right now, so I can't look it up, but I think it was Conversion Kit MK3 Reflector 40rd mag Bruen Heavy Support Grip T51R Billeted Brake Since the conversion kit has a lot of recoil and you're loosing one attachment for it, I would not run a suppressor. You need two attachments that add firing aiming stability. Another overlooked sniper support is the Taq Eradicator with the 45rd mag which gives it better sprint to fire time than most ARs (rest of the build dependent on how much recoil control you want to sacrifice for speed).
What’s crazy is my day one loadout on this new Warzone was the DG LMG with the Swarm after testing things out on the firing range. I enjoy the Bruen quite a lot too, but the best SMG is definitely the Swarm (Mac10). Haven’t got a chance to try that Cor yet.
Love your videos so do all the other creators! They all mention you in there videos. Could you do a video on Single fire weapons. Especially the sva545 in Single fire mode. Shoots fast and 2 bullets each time with the upgraded damage
There's actually a gun I believe is better than literally all the smg's right now. It's the MCW with the conversion kit. It kills faster than all of them until like 20m and the recoil is super easy to control.
Do you have any idea what happened to Symthic? I saw you were ingesting some data from there but now I assume you don't need to that it's publicised? I always combined the layout of Sym alongside the visual representations of recoil on TGD. I feel like your stat tables could be a different layout / colouring to be easier to read. Just my thoughts and in any evennt, I appreciate your work!
I asked the same thing. Maybe for Optic of choice? Or maybe there's an attachment in a dropdown menu that we can't see. or maybe it's just 4 attachments?
Damn it man. I just built the COR conversion like 2 days ago and haven't had a chance to use it yet outside of some testing in Plunder. It's absolutely disgusting. I was hoping to get some domination in before everyone found out.
Some feedback about metagen, I like the idea and the option of having it, but I don't like the concept of "YOUR" meta. I wanna know what THE meta is, so I can master the right thing. Love your content though and appreciate all you do!
I believe i have a really good core 45 set up. It's made for recoil control and ads speed Muzzle(bruen tri-port) under barrle (vx pineappl) mag 40rnd drum lazer (fjx diod-70) and ofcours the conversion kit
Hey bro, I thought your previous video said that the Amway is randomized starting at the outside, so is there really any way to master a weapon with random aim sway?
Epic work mate, I am slapping shipment lobbies just unlocking the parts for the meta. Dropped 55 kills on kill confirmed when fully built and the other teams best was 36 kills. Thank you.
When playing around with the best stat tool for ttk and dps I noticed the WSP-9 popped up a lot with a conversion kit. It doesnt come out of metagen though, so I shouldnt consider it?
Hey Tony! Would it be possible to throw a build that you love at metagen and have it spit out the weights that would get you that build? I'm not naive enough to think that it's that simple (i know inverse kinematics are a pain), but I'm a new premium subscriber and I find that Metagen for long range seems to like the Kimura vertical grip, but I prefer the Bruen Heavy (I get better accuracy in the firing range for the true TTK when swapping the bruen for the kimura). I tried playing with the weights but it never seemed to pick the Bruen Heavy. Also what does the Aim Sway weight take into account now that we have all different kinds of aim stability (firing, idle, walking, etc.)
For now, the best option would just be to weight horizontal recoil maximum - but I see even that doesn't get the Bruen Heavy Support to show up all the time. It is because it is trying to balance the actual characteristics of the recoil pattern, so if a weapon's recoil is straight vertical with no curviness, it doesn't see the need for horizontal reduction. I will be continuing to tune it and improve it down the line, but it will be a bit since I am home for the holidays right now
MetaGen is now released for Warzone 3! Thanks for watching!
Download the TGD apps: apps.apple.com/us/app/truegamedata/id6470393876 play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.truegamedata.app
Is the damage and the range profiles on the Lachman shroud different on single shot vs burst fire ?
how does the riveter with slugs compare? ;)
Thanks for the work you’ve put in to create this. The way the app/website calculates or displays flinch resistance seems to be backwards or displays as backwards. Adding flinch resistance attachments displays as taking more flinch or at least displays as a negative on the chart. Like a green -50% flinch displays as a red negative on flinch indicator as if I’d be taking more flinch
The technical term for the cor 45 "burst" is a binary trigger. It goes both ways lol
i cant access metagen, i have a bronze subscription.
I've had a lot of fun with the cor-45 for a while now. Not only does it have great ttk, I think the real power lies in its speed and mobility. You move across the map so fast! Other bonuses are that you can use it while climbing up ladders to peak roof campers and shoot them and also use it underwater when needed.
I love to see how far you've come bro. Glad to see new things added to the site to keep it fresh! Heres to 2024 and hope you have a fantastic christmas dude!
That cor conversion kit is called a "binary trigger" where the weapon fires once on the pull and once on the release
Thought my controller was broken first time i tried it
@@OrangeJuicePapi the homie is right tho it'll rip but it's tougher to use
more games need to have it, too damn cool
Double action
@@rickle6679 double action refers to a revolver in which the trigger both cocks and releases the hammer it's a totally different thing
Also worth mentioning the ISO 9mm has easier recoil than the Swarm.
I really enjoy the ISO 9mm with the canted laser, built for movement. Really fun gun and the canted laser is easier in cqb than full ads for MnK.
What's your full build? Is it better with hipfire than the swarm's hipfire build?
@@jamesv6241 canted laser, collapsed stock, 50rnd mags, chewk angled grip, and the barrel which gives extra movement and damage range (can't remember the name).
The hipfire is nothing special from memory but the canted laser makes up for it (imo). I wish there was a way to make tac stance the default for certain guns rather than full ads - I'd use that all the time on smgs if it was available tbh. Double clicking for tac stance is a pain. Might have to get a three clicker mouse just to use it lol.
Canted laser for smgs is so underrated for MnK, i dont know how people havent realized it lol, shit slaps
Brilliant video. One of my favourite things about warzone when it first came out was geeking out at the stats and comparing notes with friends. You're keeping this side of warzone alive when other streamers are either moaning or trying to focus on pure entertainment. Others whoare doing meta videos are rushing them out for clickbait. This is considered and evidence-based. Love it, thanks man.
Love the lil doggy cameo. Used to have a frenchie who looked almost identical!
I just don’t understand how they add over 100 guns in game but only a handful are actually viable.
i dont understand the WSP SWARM is missing an attachments on the sheet where he shows ? i guess is the barrel what barrel i ned to put ????????
Been running the Cor for a while now. There is a muzzle that is currently not unlockable, but you can use it in private matches. Once it becomes available it makes it so much easier to use.
What’s it called the muzzle
@@BeastyBx184 the muzzle puzzle
@@BeastyBx184muzzle-lini
Dog moment was the pure gem on this one. Everyone with a dog buddy will agree with me. Pure gold 💙🏅
You are a treasure to the community. If I can make a request, the MTZ 762 has been great but even better in single fire used like a DMR. I think a comparo vid with other weapons in single fire might be informative. The tempest Torrent is slept on hard too.
I think we were in the same plunder game when you were testing stuff. I was so surprised when I saw your name in the public chat. Keepp up the amazing work!
Per your recommendations I'm mastered the shroud when it came out and it was well worth it. Looks like I'll be doing the same thing with the COR - love the high skill high reward guns. Thanks Tony.
Unbelievable! I subscribed to bronze about 12 hours ago. Used meta gen to find the best movement smg. Cor-45 came up and I thought sweet no one knows about this yet. I then go to sleep as I’m in Australia then wake up to find you put this video out 😂
I guess the secret is out now lol
Can’t speak for mouse and keyboard players, but for controller players, the no stock striker build’s movement is my go to. It also has more manageable recoil compared to the swarm so I can’t take on fights a little further away.
I'm on MnK and I've been running the Striker, no stock, movement hand-stop, long barrel, reflector optic, and 48rnd mag. The movement is amazing and the recoil is so minimal, I find it very consistent. With the long barrel it extends its first range to something like 17m.
Up close, I use the movement to my advantage and at 10+ meters, it has good range and recoil for mid range engagements.
I have another build for more recoil control at mid range as a sniper support as well.
Same it’s tied with the wasp 9 for my favorite smg currently. No stock long barrel is such a good combo you can do whatever you want with your other 3 attachments personally I put the 48rnd mag, the first suppressor with no cons, and the dr6 handstop for more movement speed. I have a feeling it will become even better in the future because these other guns will be receiving the inevitable nerfs soon but the striker will likely be untouched
This is crazy the striker is so good
Awesome! MetaGen is back!
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays Tony Two Tones! Tony Guns! Love your work!!!!
BEEN using the cor45 and was hoping it stay under the radar forever lol
same lol
It will because it’s a skill based weapon…meaning most players hate tapping a trigger.
I run the iso 9 mm and it’s a laserbeam up to 50 meters, spiral v3.5 flash hider,9 mm high grain rounds, 50 round drum, nydar model 2023 and the vlk laser ( necrotic blueprint )
In the "MetaGen Close Range" section of the video, it has the attachments listed for the guns, is there a 5th attachment that is unseen, maybe in a dropdown menu? Or do you leave a 5th attachment option for Optic of choice? Or do you just run them with 4 attachments? Thank you
He's mentioned in other videos that the 5th is for an optic bc so many people use them.
Happy holidays Tony appreciate you for everything you do!
Hey Tony, appreciate all your hardwork and efforts that you put into TGD and these videos. Been using the tool for a few years now! I noticed for your builds you only have 4 attachments, what's the 5th and last attachment you use for the COR and WSP Swarm?
the 5th slot is saved for an optic
Thank you for the hard work you do man. Not new around here, but recently purchased a membership. Having a good time messing around on TGD. Looking forward to checking out metagen. Happy holidays man!
What about the MCW jack rippler conversion? Similar ttk but a lot more range, only limitation is the 40 round mag
And its not working 0:😂😂
Used this in the beginning of warzone. Solid sniper support
i dont think his meta gen close range gives any ar's or any converstions kits outside pistol, smg, shotgun a consideration but i could be wrong, if it did the basp smg, or ram7 smg would atleast appear or the mcw jak kit
This is what I run. Same ttk as the swarm but 20+ meters range. Aside from the mag it is significantly better in every way.
Makes the recoil too bad to be worth using imo
Loving metagen and the "realistic ttk tool". Really helping us understand whats going on.
Striker looking like really solid sniper support next to the Bas-B
Bas-B is better. It not only kills faster, but the 640 ttk stretches to about 40 meters or so. The striker's damage drops off very heavily after 12-18 meters and beyond. Definitely not sniper support worthy.
great video tony but hey you forgot the Riveter with incendiary rounds 😈🔥
I feel WSP9 is amazing. Got that Milano feeling
This game was so much fun back in the day, before meta.. everyone just experimenting with guns and builds. Now it’s just meta meta builds.. everyone running the same build.
FACTS. i remember when games didnt have metas and you had to find what gun fit you beat and whip ass with it. Now everyone has to literally run the same 2 guns
Guys like jgod did as much harm to the community as the hackers with their meta vids.
It's been like that since 2019 idk why you're surprised
It was always meta builds.
You just weren’t a player who was paying attention back then.
Welcome to gaming in the Information Age.
There’s always been a meta in Warzone even from day 1, mp7 and rpg. The rpg getting nerfed to the ground after. The snakeshots, Grauzone, Kilo, Kar98 I mean it goes on and on. Even the same attachments, it’s the nature of FPS, no one wants to get melted by OP meta build.
I’ve been using the mcw with the kit and it as the same ttk as the swarm not only that it can shoot further and almost have the same mobility( only downside is the highest mag is 40)
I started to use that one yesterday as a sniper support. No one talks about it as of yet even though it has great TTK and 20m range before the first drop off.
Class set up?
@@Ali_new-kk9mc I'm on vacation right now, so I can't look it up, but I think it was
Conversion Kit
MK3 Reflector
40rd mag
Bruen Heavy Support Grip
T51R Billeted Brake
Since the conversion kit has a lot of recoil and you're loosing one attachment for it, I would not run a suppressor. You need two attachments that add firing aiming stability.
Another overlooked sniper support is the Taq Eradicator with the 45rd mag which gives it better sprint to fire time than most ARs (rest of the build dependent on how much recoil control you want to sacrifice for speed).
Hectic video mate.
Enjoy your break.
Awesome! Cheers tony
The GOAT. been waiting for this one.
swarm is best smg for warzone imo, if your an above average player you can manage the recoil and get kills at range as well.
That Cor-45 mod is so fucking fun to use, I used it a lot and you really need to help out the vertical recoil.
damn that cor 45 ttk chart sheesh ive been sleeping
I'm surprised the Akimbo swarm hasn't taken over. It's the best SMG and you could have 2 at the same time lol.
Thanks man.great work
Thanks for the hard work.
What’s crazy is my day one loadout on this new Warzone was the DG LMG with the Swarm after testing things out on the firing range. I enjoy the Bruen quite a lot too, but the best SMG is definitely the Swarm (Mac10). Haven’t got a chance to try that Cor yet.
5:03 that’s called a binary trigger fires when the trigger is pulled and also fires when trigger is released
congrats on the release of meta gen u deserve all the success
aww the dog!!!!
Keep up the good work. Is MetaGen limited to only Warzone 3? Meaning...persons who still play DMZ would not be able to benefit from TGD again?
Ngl he is the GOAT of warzone meta
been using cor 45 since launch, with the kit it killls so fast and sicne it's a side arm, u move fast as well
Thank you!
Thanks for the good info
Where is the 5th attachment?
Thanks Tony….True Game Data for real
COR-45 and conversion kit… baby that’s all we need
We can go to the park, after dark, and kill some bots with ease....
I like the WSP Swarm with extended Barrel and Suppressor Combo..
Def been lost for what sniper support to use, so i cant wait for that!
Thanks, super useful.
Love your videos so do all the other creators! They all mention you in there videos. Could you do a video on Single fire weapons. Especially the sva545 in Single fire mode. Shoots fast and 2 bullets each time with the upgraded damage
Great vid as always
I dont doubt its a great video but you said this 1 minute after release and the video is 11.5 minutes long. No way you watched it lol
9:00 Since everyone is running High Alert, everyone always knows you're there.
So run cold blooded
Just a heads up, the COR45 conversion kit trigger is called a “binary trigger”
There's actually a gun I believe is better than literally all the smg's right now. It's the MCW with the conversion kit. It kills faster than all of them until like 20m and the recoil is super easy to control.
Do you have any idea what happened to Symthic? I saw you were ingesting some data from there but now I assume you don't need to that it's publicised? I always combined the layout of Sym alongside the visual representations of recoil on TGD. I feel like your stat tables could be a different layout / colouring to be easier to read. Just my thoughts and in any evennt, I appreciate your work!
Sym is still being worked on
So nice I want to like it twice.
u don have the range barrels on the swarm. it gets to like 8.9 meter before drop-off which is crucial.
thank you TGD
Lockwood 680 is so fun with tac stance
Wow Tony, using Penny for likes and comments... unbelievable! (I liked and commented :O)
Awesome work Tony. 👌🏼
Thanks Tony
Are you doing a video on the Revolver rifle aftermarket part? Curious how it is in wz
Why do some of these guns only have 4 attachments picked by metagen?
I asked the same thing. Maybe for Optic of choice? Or maybe there's an attachment in a dropdown menu that we can't see. or maybe it's just 4 attachments?
For the COR-45 and it's muzzle attachment, it's meant to read as the "XS" version of the Sonic Suppressor, correct?
Damn it man. I just built the COR conversion like 2 days ago and haven't had a chance to use it yet outside of some testing in Plunder. It's absolutely disgusting. I was hoping to get some domination in before everyone found out.
Penny is the real MVP
I using wsp swarm but i mist try cor45 😊 thx for your job ❤Can you show last attatchment for cor45😊
Some feedback about metagen, I like the idea and the option of having it, but I don't like the concept of "YOUR" meta. I wanna know what THE meta is, so I can master the right thing. Love your content though and appreciate all you do!
Hey TGD, why are there only 4 Attachments shown on every gun?
He leaves a spot for an Optic.
@@PatientW0lf Understandable, thanks!
I believe i have a really good core 45 set up. It's made for recoil control and ads speed Muzzle(bruen tri-port) under barrle (vx pineappl) mag 40rnd drum lazer (fjx diod-70) and ofcours the conversion kit
Hey bro, I thought your previous video said that the Amway is randomized starting at the outside, so is there really any way to master a weapon with random aim sway?
yeah that cor-45 conversion kit is almost unusable with its weird trigger response
Good job
Where is MCW Raven? One of the best close range TTK, better then WSP 9, or Straiker
Epic work mate, I am slapping shipment lobbies just unlocking the parts for the meta. Dropped 55 kills on kill confirmed when fully built and the other teams best was 36 kills. Thank you.
Have you looked at the Single-Fire MTZ 762 for close?
When playing around with the best stat tool for ttk and dps I noticed the WSP-9 popped up a lot with a conversion kit. It doesnt come out of metagen though, so I shouldnt consider it?
Penelopeeee ❤
Wsp9 is my favorite
Cor 45 conversion is called a binary trigger
Thanks
@TrueGameData Any specific reason why the WSP Swarm is using the DR6 Handstop? The XRK Edge is better in EVERY single aspect.
Seriously. Both attachment improve the same aspects, but the XRK is better in every single one.
Ads speed and sprint to fire
@@aisforashhh3462 the diference is ADS and StF is irrelevant, while everything else is almost twice as good. Look at the numbers.
The COR 45 trigger is called a binary trigger
What about a bas-b or ram 7 for close range? How do those ttks hold up against smgs
I have been using the cor45, in the past days and after this video, everyone will be using it, FFS!
Do you have any class setups for multiplayer or only warzone ?
There'a also a weird thing about the cor45, where the rof is slower when you sprint to fire, making it worse in some situations.
Are you sure? This is like unheard of lol
Says who?
just try shooting it out of a sprint, it has a slow start@@manishsuryapalam364
Does bro even understand basic game mechanics? Wat
He off the zaza. Dont listen to him
Is BAS-P no longer an option? Always had more range than the others at like 20m.
Should try to input a controller vs mouse n key board build
so that means the cor45 has a faster ttk with body shots over headshots?
GG Tony
Hey Tony! Would it be possible to throw a build that you love at metagen and have it spit out the weights that would get you that build? I'm not naive enough to think that it's that simple (i know inverse kinematics are a pain), but I'm a new premium subscriber and I find that Metagen for long range seems to like the Kimura vertical grip, but I prefer the Bruen Heavy (I get better accuracy in the firing range for the true TTK when swapping the bruen for the kimura). I tried playing with the weights but it never seemed to pick the Bruen Heavy.
Also what does the Aim Sway weight take into account now that we have all different kinds of aim stability (firing, idle, walking, etc.)
For now, the best option would just be to weight horizontal recoil maximum - but I see even that doesn't get the Bruen Heavy Support to show up all the time. It is because it is trying to balance the actual characteristics of the recoil pattern, so if a weapon's recoil is straight vertical with no curviness, it doesn't see the need for horizontal reduction. I will be continuing to tune it and improve it down the line, but it will be a bit since I am home for the holidays right now
it defaults to his weights