@esejoshrodz2271 pls explain how gallagher more sp postive than adventurine and u need a lot of skill points for firefly and due to fire weakness gallagher can brake and without him u could brake on first turn meaning firefly couldn't do break dmg he has a debuff to increase the dmg of break and don't talk to me about sustaining as there broking most of the time. Also gallagher bessoted completely nullifies firefly drain health mechanic whereas as if adventurine shield runs out she could get one shot as asventurine can't heal.For me gallagher can do 300k dmg contributing to the dmg 300k broken up basic ult enchanced basic so I confused how adventurine is better for break teams for you
Everyone keeps talking about how great it is that with Firefly you dont need to worry about crit stats at all for relics and how much easier it will make building her. Well, on her planar ornaments and relic set all i keep getting are crit substats. No Break Effect, no Speed, no attack, just lots and lots of crit stats and defense. People were delusional thinking that not needing crit stats would make farming relics any less tedious lol
@jamesrochester2459 not really, just attack boots is fine. Hypercarry dps have harmony buffers with advance forward and attackbuffs so they only need to focus on 2 stats
The only time my FX ever dies in high-conundrum level G&G or high-level Swarm Disaster. She completely survives MoC, Apoc. Shadow, etc. The trick? S5 Landau's Choice. With that level of damage mitigation she's pretty much impossible to kill. Not only that, she gets hit more, so her Ult comes up faster so she gets her healing stacks more often.
Well I E6 Gallagher due to pulling for Firefly. I just need to get her relics and I should be good since I have Fall of A Aeon LC maxed. On my F2P alt, I am skipping Firefly, but due to how strong Ruan Mei, I don't think I can skip her even if I have her on my main. However with the break meta and just how universal she is, I might just have to roll on her on my alt.
Idk what you mean powercreep jingliu is the one we should be talking about current moc past moc shows in prydwen dhil clears faster than acheron 😭even cn
The Gamurai wanted Acheron and Sam months ago got Acheron then wanted to save for Sam.. got Adventurine. 😅 Fast forward to Firefly reveal no longer wanted Sam as much so started pulling Boothill, saw you, Iyo & Moon stream that made me want Firefly again stopped pulling boothill a week ago now I have Firefly! 😎 shoutout to Iyo unfort that he couldn’t get her
Went in with 250 pulls + Guaranteed at 10 pity was hoping for at least E1S0 FF.... Walk away with E2S1 with 40+ pulls leftover nice. Any i have nothing to say about the list i basically agree with everything and Yo my boi Gallagher up there in the big leagues now lol.
Ruan Mei was ALWAYS T0. The people at Prydwen are just unnecessarily stubborn and half the time I feel they just place characters "just to have someone in this tier" or "to not offend anybody" instead of being a *meta-based* tier list like they claim. Did it seriously take them this many patches to see the writing on the wall?
@@MaineOneV1 She's been T0 (S+) since her release. Robin/Sparkle never matched (or exceeded) Mei's raw/unique value, therefore they *cannot* exist in the same tier as her. The fact you can put her on *literally every team comp, Ever,* should speak for itself, as that is immense and unmatched value. All this "break meta" did was widen that gap between her and the rest of the supports even further (to the point where prydwen literally cannot ignore it). This is how tier lists actually work, but Prydwen barely knows how to make a tier list.
He is the only reason my E0 DHIL is even playable and helps with getting the Aeon’s buff quicker. I also use him with Jing Liu compared so it really depends on your account
for me is much worse for people who pulled boothill thinking he was at same level with ruan mei and firefly... it is not even close... Luocha works for other older comps, but boothill wants the same team as firefly and he is much worse, and they are both new
Yeah but people would have time with the free team so they can save for upgrades isn't that obvious and that's is speculation rn we dont know 100 per cent sure
Idk how you can say FF doesnt need HMC. HMC is absolutely needed. Tier 0 with HMC 100%, but without? She feels terrible. BH feels a lot better without HMC than FF. FF is just nutty with HMC.
Fu Xuan can sustain enough it`s more of Aventurine can deal damage. It is still possible to die with Aventurine as well if you get unlucky especially in the new AS
The only thing I disagree with is Fu Xuan moving down. I just pulled her on her rerun and have no problem in MOC 11-12, Apocalyptic Shadows, and high level G&G. Shes by far my most useful character. I think Aventurine is VERY overrated gameplay wise, and kinda shit in terms of story/personality to top it off. Its sad to see people starting to downplay Fu Xuan
I agree she's being downplayed a bit much. Just because she doesn't have a special niche like a lot of the other sustains. The 12% crit rate is really nice, but it's not as "flashy" as Aventurine's follow ups, Huohuo's energy refill or Gallagher's 100k super break procs. I totally don't see Aventurine being alone in tier 0 tho, it makes no sense to me. Especially since Prydwen themselves have said "we don't rate sustains based on damage" and they're not allowed to have their signature lightcones. It does seem like they are given their best team tho (otherwise Gallagher doesn't go up in the tier list). I do feel like Prydwen has forgotten Gepard despite him being the ceiling for Acheron teams.
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It really does changed everything including my luck on relics from bad to worse.
FACTSSSS
Lol now that I want break effect the game wants to give me CR/CD. Which would be fine, except it's all on FF's artifacts.
@@erwintonel9030same for some reason all of my FF pieces have crit substats and all of my other relics have multiple break substats
30+ refills just to get like 3-4 ok relics lol
Gallagher the goat
YURR
For me Adv is better for her (for me)
@esejoshrodz2271 pls explain how gallagher more sp postive than adventurine and u need a lot of skill points for firefly and due to fire weakness gallagher can brake and without him u could brake on first turn meaning firefly couldn't do break dmg he has a debuff to increase the dmg of break and don't talk to me about sustaining as there broking most of the time. Also gallagher bessoted completely nullifies firefly drain health mechanic whereas as if adventurine shield runs out she could get one shot as asventurine can't heal.For me gallagher can do 300k dmg contributing to the dmg 300k broken up basic ult enchanced basic so I confused how adventurine is better for break teams for you
@@UltimatePollo3495 (for me) Is how I feel the gameplay is better whit adv for me
@@UltimatePollo3495he thinks if he says “for me” he can say something objectively wrong and still be valid.
Everyone keeps talking about how great it is that with Firefly you dont need to worry about crit stats at all for relics and how much easier it will make building her. Well, on her planar ornaments and relic set all i keep getting are crit substats. No Break Effect, no Speed, no attack, just lots and lots of crit stats and defense. People were delusional thinking that not needing crit stats would make farming relics any less tedious lol
There is no difference by going for crit/crit DMG and speed and break sub stats
They both a pain to grind
Crit-based characters also want ATK% and (usually) SPD, so Firefly is a little easier to farm a near-optimal set for.
Just not all that much easier.
@jamesrochester2459 not really, just attack boots is fine.
Hypercarry dps have harmony buffers with advance forward and attackbuffs so they only need to focus on 2 stats
The only time my FX ever dies in high-conundrum level G&G or high-level Swarm Disaster. She completely survives MoC, Apoc. Shadow, etc. The trick? S5 Landau's Choice. With that level of damage mitigation she's pretty much impossible to kill. Not only that, she gets hit more, so her Ult comes up faster so she gets her healing stacks more often.
Well I E6 Gallagher due to pulling for Firefly. I just need to get her relics and I should be good since I have Fall of A Aeon LC maxed.
On my F2P alt, I am skipping Firefly, but due to how strong Ruan Mei, I don't think I can skip her even if I have her on my main. However with the break meta and just how universal she is, I might just have to roll on her on my alt.
Even at E6, DHIL still need sp positive supports while Firefly completely solve her sp issue with just her E1. Cries in powercreeped E6 DHIL
Idk what you mean powercreep jingliu is the one we should be talking about current moc past moc shows in prydwen dhil clears faster than acheron 😭even cn
The Gamurai wanted Acheron and Sam months ago got Acheron then wanted to save for Sam.. got Adventurine. 😅 Fast forward to Firefly reveal no longer wanted Sam as much so started pulling Boothill, saw you, Iyo & Moon stream that made me want Firefly again stopped pulling boothill a week ago now I have Firefly! 😎 shoutout to Iyo unfort that he couldn’t get her
I don't agree with Pryd tirelist most of the time, but this one is right, and I like the placements of characters.
Good video 👍
When a game make their mc soo good,
Hits so good
I got her at 40 pulls so now I’m just waiting to see who I want to get next
Went in with 250 pulls + Guaranteed at 10 pity was hoping for at least E1S0 FF....
Walk away with E2S1 with 40+ pulls leftover nice.
Any i have nothing to say about the list i basically agree with everything and Yo my boi Gallagher up there in the big leagues now lol.
Ruan Mei was ALWAYS T0. The people at Prydwen are just unnecessarily stubborn and half the time I feel they just place characters "just to have someone in this tier" or "to not offend anybody" instead of being a *meta-based* tier list like they claim. Did it seriously take them this many patches to see the writing on the wall?
The break meta made her teir 0. Break meta just came out in 2.3
@@MaineOneV1 She's been T0 (S+) since her release. Robin/Sparkle never matched (or exceeded) Mei's raw/unique value, therefore they *cannot* exist in the same tier as her. The fact you can put her on *literally every team comp, Ever,* should speak for itself, as that is immense and unmatched value.
All this "break meta" did was widen that gap between her and the rest of the supports even further (to the point where prydwen literally cannot ignore it). This is how tier lists actually work, but Prydwen barely knows how to make a tier list.
Boothill really does have a few holes to be filled
Imagine having summoned for luocha in his re-run Lol
He is the only reason my E0 DHIL is even playable and helps with getting the Aeon’s buff quicker. I also use him with Jing Liu compared so it really depends on your account
for me is much worse for people who pulled boothill thinking he was at same level with ruan mei and firefly... it is not even close... Luocha works for other older comps, but boothill wants the same team as firefly and he is much worse, and they are both new
@@vkThor yeah, and the bad part about that is that by the time he released, it was already known that firefly would be break oriented too
glad my queen is still o top, the day will come tho i can feel it
Glad i got Firefly for just 21 pulls, her gameplay is fun af
people are saying how strong super break team is but wait till a limited super break support and a sustain comes out and power creep hmc and galla.
2 patches lol
@@bepo1702 at least cause new break support is unconfirmed for now.
@@kaseyatakahashi9753true though 2.5 seems for it
@@kaseyatakahashi9753 well apparently lingsha is just 5 star gallagher
Yeah but people would have time with the free team so they can save for upgrades isn't that obvious and that's is speculation rn we dont know 100 per cent sure
I finally cleared moc thanks to firefly no ruan mei but tingyun
The amount of copium butthurt fx mains in the comments lol 😂
Cope that she isn’t as valuable as HH,aventurine,
i disagree as break characters being specialist when there are the main dps yeah they are a little different but the end goal is the same
Idk how you can say FF doesnt need HMC. HMC is absolutely needed. Tier 0 with HMC 100%, but without? She feels terrible. BH feels a lot better without HMC than FF. FF is just nutty with HMC.
i dont know whos fuxuan is that my fuxuan isnt dying even once in moc but the rest are taking more dmg then heals
fr a well built fu Xuan is tanking almost every hit even with AOE she still eating the hits I still think she up there 🤷♂
@@Oppritewell she is up there, just not up up there
Fu Xuan can sustain enough it`s more of Aventurine can deal damage. It is still possible to die with Aventurine as well if you get unlucky especially in the new AS
agreed
"CHANGED EVERYTHING" cringe
NPC
The only thing I disagree with is Fu Xuan moving down. I just pulled her on her rerun and have no problem in MOC 11-12, Apocalyptic Shadows, and high level G&G. Shes by far my most useful character. I think Aventurine is VERY overrated gameplay wise, and kinda shit in terms of story/personality to top it off. Its sad to see people starting to downplay Fu Xuan
She doesn't provide enough damage
Hot take but Huo Huo is just as great as FuXuan
I agree she's being downplayed a bit much. Just because she doesn't have a special niche like a lot of the other sustains. The 12% crit rate is really nice, but it's not as "flashy" as Aventurine's follow ups, Huohuo's energy refill or Gallagher's 100k super break procs.
I totally don't see Aventurine being alone in tier 0 tho, it makes no sense to me. Especially since Prydwen themselves have said "we don't rate sustains based on damage" and they're not allowed to have their signature lightcones. It does seem like they are given their best team tho (otherwise Gallagher doesn't go up in the tier list). I do feel like Prydwen has forgotten Gepard despite him being the ceiling for Acheron teams.
you can stop the copium
@@bjornnilsson2941 they are given their best team or dhil would have never gone up
Ruan mei doesn't buff characters much compared to other Harmony but game mechanics buff her. Its fact , 😂
Ngl , break meta literally ruined hsr , like how hyperbloom ruined genshin 😂
its gonna get worse when 2 up coming characters come out lmao
why do you yell at me dude ????
E0S0
Firefly >> acheron