I can confirm this works IF you have the hair and it just doesn't properly grow on its own (just as you said). I'm 26 almost 27 and I have quite the big patch right on my chin, as well as smaller ones at the corners of my lips (where the mustache connects to the rest of the beard) and I've been using a derma roller for roughly a year now. The first few months I was slacking off a bit and only used it once in a while (like 2-3 times a month), but I noticed that suddenly some of the small white hair on these patches started to become black and thicker. After that I started using it way more regularly (~2 times a week) and my mustache now properly connects to the rest of the beard (still a little sparse but it does) and even the huge patch on my chin is now (again sparsly) covered by hair. The thing is, I've always knew that I had hair in these areas and the only problem was that they, for what ever reason, didn't want to become thicker and black. Also, my dad and my grandfathers all have bushy and full beards, so it is unlikely that it's a genetic problem. In my case it might just be a combination of malnutrition and being a late bloomer in terms of beard growth, but the derma roller definitely accelerates the process for which my body takes years.
My problem with these kinds of treatments is that the before/after pictures people show, usually are just the result of not shaving and growing it out. Their hair is usually noticeably longer in the "after." If the products work, they are not being advertised correctly.
Exactly. I'm using a 1.5 derma roller with minoxidil right now, and I have noticed SOME improvements after the 3rd week, but a true test would have been documenting my natural growth in 3 weeks before using any treatments, clean shave, and document 3 weeks of growth with the treatments.
192 0.5mm needle derma rollers are the way to go, if you combine that with Minoxidil, you would get a nice beard in a year/ year and a half (assuming you would have average genetics or a bit below that and not the 1% worst of genetics).
@@JoanFortnite-jh1oz No, that has more chances of side effects. I meant using both Minoxidil and dermarolling; after you dermaroll, you wait at least 24hours before you apply Minoxidil again.
you need to see this as a marathon, its a 1yr run. Do not expect to see the difference as it is so subtle but if you take a picture on 1st day and another after a year you will definitely see a difference, 5% is the minimum most ppl get, do not expect to get 25% without supplements like minoxidil.
@@mohannadali9662 yea i been derma rollin for almost 8 months its not magic but ppl do notice ans ask me if gotten implants... Im goin to add minoxidil to the mix soon.
8 months, awesome man! I'm on my 3rd week, twice a day on 5% minox. Its basically a compulsive habit now, but its hard to imagine doing this for 8 months even haha.
I had zero beard growth, but after rolling few times a week with 0.5mm needles i grew a rather patchy beard but these have gone away in 2 years. They do work!
The harsh reality is that everyone's beard has a different growth pattern and not all of us are meant to have a full beard without patches. My cheeks grow in a little sparse; noticeably enough to me that I try not to grow a long enough beard to really accentuate that weakness. That said, my soul patch area is super strong, which is where MOST guys struggle. There's not magic cure, outside of maybe a follicle transplant.
I'm pretty sure it just stimulates follicles you already have. Greg seems to not have follicles that high on his cheeks so it didn't do anything. For someone who does have follicles that are just dormant it theoretically would work.
When I was early to mid 40”s I tried Minoxidil+ a derma roller and noticed the aging appearance on my face SIGNIFICANTLY increased! I looked online and found other older guys noticed the same thing. I immediately stopped it and it took about a month to return to normal. Wish I knew about it in my 20’s and early 30’s but I would never try it again as a late 40’s guy. Just fyi.
This had absolutely zero affect on my patch. Albeit it’s only a small patch on my beard and after 3-4 months it’s done absolutely nothing. Not to say it doesn’t work on others but for me it’s been a fail
nah it works. if you look closely it’ll bring in looooads of vellus hairs, however they take anywhere between 3-12 months to turn terminal (the thicker hair we associate with beards)
Microneedling alone will do little for hair growth by itself. However in conjunction with minoxidil it will give you great results. I don’t understand why there’s such a stigma to use it. Minoxidil is truly the key for hair growth and finasteride is the key to prevent dhl/androgen sensitivity to the hair follicles I.e keeping existing hair. I guarantee you if you used minoxidil for 6 months and tapered off, you would see results. Pls Greg check out more plates more dates RUclips channel for more info
I believe it's because it's not medically approved for use on the face and there are negative side effects for some people and some of those side effects have been long-term for them :)
@@xikaryo6735 The more common being heart palpitations, puffiness in the face And more rare but still has occured for some people: Issues in the private area. People have said once they stopped using it, the symptoms stopped. But for some, some of the side effects have become long-term. A search online of the side effects will give you lot more information. Hope that helps :)
@@medorva Some people may have side effects but personally I've been using Minoxidil for 6 and a half months and I went from almost no facial hair to a full beard that may be a bit patchy but it's still a beard. And my journey isn't done, I can see more and more vellus hairs growing in and I'm going to go for the full 2 years.
Just started my beard journey and im 15 days in. I appear to have full coverage everywhere....... except the left side if the soul patch. The right side has almost complete coverage but the left side has a few hairs here and there and as the beard gets gradually thicker it becomes more obvious. Should i just wait or start derma rolling in this small area?
So I use to have a great beard and over time I found myself picking the hairs out with my fingers mainly on and under my chin so now there's less hair there and was wondering if I screwed up by pulling them or is there a way to grow some of them back?
Do you think that this derma roller can be used more like antiaging for the skin? to slow down wrinkles and get more blood to the forehead, for example
Yes, that's actually the main idea with microneedling. It makes your skin look younger and healthier by causing your body to make more collagen and elastin. A lot of beauty parlors use this procedure to slow down skin aging in women (and men ofc, it's just more common with women). When it comes to hair growth, that's a secondary use case and from what I've heard it hasn't been proven to work 100%. Still gonna try it tho 😂
@@pedjabun I have read that there are important recommendations, disinfect the object for 15 minutes and pay close attention to infections, coagulation problems, even a simple pimple .. etc.. it's not that Easy..
There are many reported favorable results from the use of a Derma Roller for skin. I know several people so it bi-annually. I have to say that my cheek skin are smoother and firmer.
Just to clarify because I know Greg had a slip up of saying do it once a week and then build up to once a week. Every other day is good about 3 times a week is the magic number. Also use a quality beard oil and rub it in after rolling
Did you have preexisting vellous hairs in the area? It won’t grow hair on an area where you have no existing baby hairs. I have a spot under my lip and it’s just our beard pattern. It’s not a “bald spot” just no hair follicles there
The question I have to the doctors that recommend to do once a week, have they experience to themselves to know for sure that doing once a week is the best? I can say that 99% of most doctors give their recommendation to the patient not by their own experience but by the FDA or a clinical trial that have not done a thorough research themselves. Each individual is very different, their skin is different. There are reports now show on youtube that minoxidil full grown hair will fall off if that person stop using the minoxidil, but a lot of users have reported that it is not true. with Microneedling, I had users who reportedly said that he is using twice a week and he sees awsome result. So I watch, I hear, and I like a scientist test it out 1st before I can say that using microneeling once a week is a must. Doctors are wrong most of the time,
I think age makes a difference. Beards are dependent on androgen. You need testosterone to convert the vellus hair to terminal. Unless you're on TRT the odds are your testosterone at 60+ isn't going to be the same as a 30 yr old. I don't know this for a fact.
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I can confirm this works IF you have the hair and it just doesn't properly grow on its own (just as you said). I'm 26 almost 27 and I have quite the big patch right on my chin, as well as smaller ones at the corners of my lips (where the mustache connects to the rest of the beard) and I've been using a derma roller for roughly a year now. The first few months I was slacking off a bit and only used it once in a while (like 2-3 times a month), but I noticed that suddenly some of the small white hair on these patches started to become black and thicker. After that I started using it way more regularly (~2 times a week) and my mustache now properly connects to the rest of the beard (still a little sparse but it does) and even the huge patch on my chin is now (again sparsly) covered by hair. The thing is, I've always knew that I had hair in these areas and the only problem was that they, for what ever reason, didn't want to become thicker and black. Also, my dad and my grandfathers all have bushy and full beards, so it is unlikely that it's a genetic problem. In my case it might just be a combination of malnutrition and being a late bloomer in terms of beard growth, but the derma roller definitely accelerates the process for which my body takes years.
What size needle did you start off with?
You using .5 or .25?
@Indian Psychonaut 0.5 is recommended
Give your beard more time. Greg said that his face was patchy up until his 50s!
@@Johonavich49 yes just wait literal decades
My problem with these kinds of treatments is that the before/after pictures people show, usually are just the result of not shaving and growing it out. Their hair is usually noticeably longer in the "after." If the products work, they are not being advertised correctly.
Exactly. I'm using a 1.5 derma roller with minoxidil right now, and I have noticed SOME improvements after the 3rd week, but a true test would have been documenting my natural growth in 3 weeks before using any treatments, clean shave, and document 3 weeks of growth with the treatments.
Not true. Look at the minoxbeards subreddit (it includes dermarolled beards)
Yes and no cause most couldn’t even grow them hairs that long to begin with
Now that is a champion beard he got going on, even captain birdseye is jealous
Minoxidil plus derma roller works like magic
192 0.5mm needle derma rollers are the way to go, if you combine that with Minoxidil, you would get a nice beard in a year/ year and a half (assuming you would have average genetics or a bit below that and not the 1% worst of genetics).
exactly, its pointless to do this for 6 months.
@@DAG_r8 Yup, unless you're a hyper responder to minoxidil, which is extremely rare. Or perhaps have a very strong starting point, but still.
@@vamheredur413 combine? Do you mean apply minoxidil right after dermarolling?
@@JoanFortnite-jh1oz No, that has more chances of side effects. I meant using both Minoxidil and dermarolling; after you dermaroll, you wait at least 24hours before you apply Minoxidil again.
you need to see this as a marathon, its a 1yr run. Do not expect to see the difference as it is so subtle but if you take a picture on 1st day and another after a year you will definitely see a difference, 5% is the minimum most ppl get, do not expect to get 25% without supplements like minoxidil.
I did both and I can very certainly say that it worked better than monoxidil, at least for me. I used 5 percent rogaine.
@@mohannadali9662 yea i been derma rollin for almost 8 months its not magic but ppl do notice ans ask me if gotten implants... Im goin to add minoxidil to the mix soon.
8 months, awesome man! I'm on my 3rd week, twice a day on 5% minox. Its basically a compulsive habit now, but its hard to imagine doing this for 8 months even haha.
I had zero beard growth, but after rolling few times a week with 0.5mm needles i grew a rather patchy beard but these have gone away in 2 years. They do work!
How many weeks before you saw results?
@@QuickCash711 significant effect at 4 weeks. But you gotta be consistent
@@DuDuWoWo ok thanks I’m doing it twice a week and this is my first week, will it also darken some of my hairs that are a lighter colour?
@@QuickCash711 so the needles stimulate the melanocytes, these give color to the hairs
@@DuDuWoWo ohhh thank yiu
The harsh reality is that everyone's beard has a different growth pattern and not all of us are meant to have a full beard without patches. My cheeks grow in a little sparse; noticeably enough to me that I try not to grow a long enough beard to really accentuate that weakness. That said, my soul patch area is super strong, which is where MOST guys struggle. There's not magic cure, outside of maybe a follicle transplant.
I'm pretty sure it just stimulates follicles you already have. Greg seems to not have follicles that high on his cheeks so it didn't do anything. For someone who does have follicles that are just dormant it theoretically would work.
There's a cool gentlemen swagger to this fellow right here. Beard is top notch
Try minoxidil
"...and you're thinking: 'I don't want fat hair ! I want more hair !' "
This man is a treasure 😂
When I was early to mid 40”s I tried Minoxidil+ a derma roller and noticed the aging appearance on my face SIGNIFICANTLY increased! I looked online and found other older guys noticed the same thing. I immediately stopped it and it took about a month to return to normal. Wish I knew about it in my 20’s and early 30’s but I would never try it again as a late 40’s guy. Just fyi.
derma roll + minoxidil is the key
The Dynamic Duo, No?
I'm going to give the derma roller a try on my head and face.
I'll give it some time and report back later.
so?
So?
Any updates?
Been 4 months, what's up?
This had absolutely zero affect on my patch. Albeit it’s only a small patch on my beard and after 3-4 months it’s done absolutely nothing. Not to say it doesn’t work on others but for me it’s been a fail
100% essential peppermint oil for me, thank you very much.
@@fatumsfaber8809 Oh bullshit...
I don't think it does anything
nah it works. if you look closely it’ll bring in looooads of vellus hairs, however they take anywhere between 3-12 months to turn terminal (the thicker hair we associate with beards)
4 months? Hahahah
Im surprised the dermaroller didnt take one look at Greg and surrender. It should know it has already been beat.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣nice
helpful Silver man 🌹
thank you so much 🌹
i have used this for about a month and there is a noticable difference
with serum?
White hair is super form
Mine literally just arrived and this came up in my recommended
This is exactly what I noticed It was making the hairs thicker
Some saying combining this with minoxidil.. how about also taking niacin at the same time? (For those who what it does… especially during a flush) ???
Microneedling alone will do little for hair growth by itself. However in conjunction with minoxidil it will give you great results. I don’t understand why there’s such a stigma to use it. Minoxidil is truly the key for hair growth and finasteride is the key to prevent dhl/androgen sensitivity to the hair follicles I.e keeping existing hair. I guarantee you if you used minoxidil for 6 months and tapered off, you would see results. Pls Greg check out more plates more dates RUclips channel for more info
I believe it's because it's not medically approved for use on the face and there are negative side effects for some people and some of those side effects have been long-term for them :)
@@medorva What side effects are those?
@@xikaryo6735 The more common being heart palpitations, puffiness in the face And more rare but still has occured for some people: Issues in the private area. People have said once they stopped using it, the symptoms stopped. But for some, some of the side effects have become long-term. A search online of the side effects will give you lot more information. Hope that helps :)
@@medorva Some people may have side effects but personally I've been using Minoxidil for 6 and a half months and I went from almost no facial hair to a full beard that may be a bit patchy but it's still a beard. And my journey isn't done, I can see more and more vellus hairs growing in and I'm going to go for the full 2 years.
I have not tried derma rolling. Sounds painful. Good video though Greg!
Stop being scared & man up. It doesn’t hurt at all🙄.
@@jaycarter990 alright
@@Johonavich49 Reply to this thread once you’ve tried it, I wanna know how it was for you🙏🏾.
@@Johonavich49Have you “manned up” Joseph?
@nehauon I haven't. Honesltly don't have funds for it. I just wear a baseball cap.
Wait he looks like senior Zac Efron
Just started my beard journey and im 15 days in. I appear to have full coverage everywhere....... except the left side if the soul patch. The right side has almost complete coverage but the left side has a few hairs here and there and as the beard gets gradually thicker it becomes more obvious. Should i just wait or start derma rolling in this small area?
How can I get in my country it's not available that type of dermaroller like you having
It's my dream to have a beard like yours
So I use to have a great beard and over time I found myself picking the hairs out with my fingers mainly on and under my chin so now there's less hair there and was wondering if I screwed up by pulling them or is there a way to grow some of them back?
I don’t think you can permanently remove hairs, no even with a laser. You’ll be alright
Than you think wrong my dumb goose
HOW CAN I GROW A BEARD UNDER THE LIP????I WANT A WELL CLOSED BEARD. I HAVE GENETICS BUT IN THAT AREA IT IS TAKEN TO GROW
Do you think that this derma roller can be used more like antiaging for the skin? to slow down wrinkles and get more blood to the forehead, for example
Yes, that's actually the main idea with microneedling. It makes your skin look younger and healthier by causing your body to make more collagen and elastin. A lot of beauty parlors use this procedure to slow down skin aging in women (and men ofc, it's just more common with women). When it comes to hair growth, that's a secondary use case and from what I've heard it hasn't been proven to work 100%. Still gonna try it tho 😂
@@pedjabun I have read that there are important recommendations, disinfect the object for 15 minutes and pay close attention to infections, coagulation problems, even a simple pimple .. etc.. it's not that Easy..
rose hip oil is what u wanna look into.
There are many reported favorable results from the use of a Derma Roller for skin. I know several people so it bi-annually. I have to say that my cheek skin
are smoother and firmer.
@@BerzinskyRules thank you, very kind
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Just to clarify because I know Greg had a slip up of saying do it once a week and then build up to once a week. Every other day is good about 3 times a week is the magic number. Also use a quality beard oil and rub it in after rolling
Beard oil is for healthy face skin not for beard follicles, healthier face skin will mean healthier beard later on
i m really wanna see Greg rocking a bald look with a beard
It looked awful lol. 😂 It didn’t even look realistic and wasn’t even the same colour as his skin. It was noticeably obvious he was wearing a bald cap.
If you wanna be bald, you might aswell shave your head for real.
Connor Simpson So then use the right color
Connor Simpson Then his hair would be gone
Be careful what you wish for. You want bald Greg, but they gave you bald Greg at home
That was funny he talking about snagging the hairs then it happened 🤣 I watched that partake ten time laughing
Why are you keeping the white ?
He bleached it, it's permanent, it'll be like a year until he's back to normal
I use derma roller with beard booster(liqid for beard) 3 weks every day and got good results i got a lot tinny white hair on cheks and around mouth
Fan of channel. Unfortunately, the derm roller doesn't work. Tried it for my below lip bald spot. All it does is irritate my skin.
Did you have preexisting vellous hairs in the area? It won’t grow hair on an area where you have no existing baby hairs. I have a spot under my lip and it’s just our beard pattern. It’s not a “bald spot” just no hair follicles there
u have no hair follicles below lip, my cheek grew hair after using derma roll plus minoxidil. I have beard but it sparsely
you said, clinical studies show results using micro needling but you found zero results after 6 months of actual use? 🤔
dermapen + minoxidil = effects
dermaroll + minoxidil = effect too
@@blightlight9906I think they’re synonymous friend
I think I have a scar on my chin were hair no longer grows, fricking sucks.
Jolly Santa❤
You ever going to grow your hair out again ???
The question I have to the doctors that recommend to do once a week, have they experience to themselves to know for sure that doing once a week is the best? I can say that 99% of most doctors give their recommendation to the patient not by their own experience but by the FDA or a clinical trial that have not done a thorough research themselves. Each individual is very different, their skin is different. There are reports now show on youtube that minoxidil full grown hair will fall off if that person stop using the minoxidil, but a lot of users have reported that it is not true. with Microneedling, I had users who reportedly said that he is using twice a week and he sees awsome result. So I watch, I hear, and I like a scientist test it out 1st before I can say that using microneeling once a week is a must. Doctors are wrong most of the time,
Hey bro
I think age makes a difference. Beards are dependent on androgen. You need testosterone to convert the vellus hair to terminal. Unless you're on TRT the odds are your testosterone at 60+ isn't going to be the same as a 30 yr old.
I don't know this for a fact.
So Santa is real 🎅
Ikr he looks like the santa from Christmas Chronicles
I was actually busy dermarolling before watching this video
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@Jebri Biovea dermarroller foligain
Hello stepdad..
I can be your stepdad🤷🏾♂️ijs I’m sexy enough.
I had no Idea the kfc guy is real
He is actually real lol, his name is Colonel Sandres
You looking sooo handsome, smart sugardaddy..💖
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This will cause infection in our skin.
That's why you sanitise it with 70%+ alcohol before and after use.
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I would not use it cause of the damage it can do!✌️
What damage? 🙄
Man, you're eyes surgery terrify me... Hope you'll get well soon :/
Scam you can either grow a beard or you can't.
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