To answer your question about Maria, she lives on the ARK because she basically has no immune system and can't risk living in an unsterilized environment.
wait, that means that the raid on the space station by the government would of introduce many germs to the space station, meaning that she was most likely dead even if she didnt get shot, meaning there no way for the dad to know if it was an accidental death or not, meaning his whole revenge thing is even more crazy
@@SuperMonaLisaBros No it is just uncle because if shadow were to be in a twisted way a great uncle then he in the same manner would be geralds sibling but that cant be it because gerald created shadow and unless you give me some B.S about the black arms no, just no.
I mean....to be fair the people have seen sonic transform in sa1 during the chaos attack. Quills are the same, different color yes. Probably mistaken for another transformation
No it’s people on earth: all you hedgehogs look the same I’m gonna go after the blue one even though it was the black hedgehog on the news but since we’re so dumb we’ll go after the black hedgehog
There's actually a potential sin I wanna bring up here; rewind to Gerald Robatnik's execution, he announces his entire plan for revenge before a shooting squad and not a singe one decided to think: "Maybe I should tell my superiors to investigate the Ark for ANYTHING he just said" sure he was a raving lunatic by the time they killed him, but given that he actually headed to the Project Shadow you'd think that'd warrent enough credibility to at least double check his threats...
ShadowBlade972 Something I should bring up for this is how did the footage of Gerald's execution get sent to the ARK and who sent it? It couldn't have been Gerald; he was dead. A G.U.N. soldier or the commander? So they just decided, "Who wants to see this footage, let's just send it to ARK so no one can find out what happened. Who cares what Gerald said? He was insane. It's not like anything he said is important. Let's just destroy his existence."? If that's the case, that's one irresponsible, naive and disorganised army.
He did say, "How did he program the ARK to reproduce this 50-year-old HD WMV file of his own execution?", but he assumes that it was Gerald who sent it, when he couldn't have because that very file showed him speaking his final words, thus, he was dead.
@Daniel von Strangle To be completely fair, I agree with some of these theories but as I was reading your points I came up with this: Maybe, the reason all of that was possible was because Shadow set it all up he did say he some how "reprogrammed" The ultimate life form which we assume to either mean Shadow or bio-lizard. Given Shadow was on earth it seemed more likely for it to be him. Also he was a "secret government project" few knew about so in reality it wouldn't be too hard to believe in his time off camera (which is quite a lot actually) he could have set all of this up. Also explains his change of heart near the end maybe it was temporary brain washing or something that caused him to want to go through with such a plan though that seems like a stretch. Anyhow that's my take on the whole execution projection and arc kamikaze thing.
11:05 the relation is that Shadow blames himself for Maria's death and he didn't want to be the one that caused another person's death. That's why he saved Rouge.
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So many people complain about Rouge saying "Five minutes is plenty" when mentioning the time limit of Security hall You do know Eggman told Shadow to set the BOMB for 15 minutes.....to BLOW UP the island..... If she took the 15 minutes to get the chaos emeralds, then she would have blown up with the island. 5 Minutes to get the emeralds, 10 minutes to meetup with Eggman/get the fuck off the island.
My only gripe with that sentiment is that she says “5 minutes should be plenty,” AFTER Eggman tells Shadow 15 minutes on the bomb. She doesn’t specify 5 minutes for the emeralds, she’s implying she only needs 5 minutes on the bomb’s timer.
@@chrismaystar3014 I'm 95% sure she's talking to herself for that line. She's not talking into her walkie-talkie that she has when she's locked in the vault.
+Dr. Cardus And talking about 'Fake X', Shadow saying "an Emerald that's fake" is an example of extremely poor translation/no-one looking over the translation to find oddities. "A fake Emerald" is so much better, in English, because the one used is so...roundabout, unnatural. Did an English team do the writing? Or did any natural English speakers read over the translations provided by Japanese writers? Doesn't seem like it.
+PokeMaster22222 In the final story, in the cutscene that plays after you defeat the Biolizard, once the lizard will use Chaos Control Shadow will say "Is that what...Chaos Control is?" which is ALSO a translation error (I don't remember now what he said in the japanese version though)
If anyone is wondering about the sin at 26:30, I have a guess about what sonic was mumbling about. If you play the final battle against the Final Hazard, there is a 5 min limit before you fail the battle. But if you play up to the 4 minute mark, Shadow will say something along the lines that he believes the ultimate lifeform is actually Sonic.
I heard that once, but if sonic is the ultimate life form then what exactly is shadow (though it's explained in his game it isn't here, plus how is shadow able to become super? He shouldn't be able to do thay
the part with Shadow seeing Maria and Rouge actually makes sense. He was sort of comparing the two, seeing Rouge as a girl in a dear-death situation that made her helpless, just like Maria
Wait a sec! In the prison scene, Amy says "You mean that black hedgehog?" If you could have clearly seen that he was in fact a black hedgehog, then how in the name of fuck did you confuse him for a bright blue hedgehog in the middle of broad day light?
You go from a giant lizard to a hedgehog cause Biolizard was based off of Chaos and Shadow was based off of the super hedgehog fighting him in the mural from Sonic Adventure. HOW DOES ANYONE NOT REALIZE THIS??
Well first Gerald made Shadow fifty years before the fight and 2. Why the hell would Gerald not give his grandson a spanking for trying to take over the world if he was still alive at that point and 2. Why the hell would Gerald care about or be in station square at the time
Holy shit...I always knew the 2nd fact...but the Biolizard thing just blew my mind! That means that...Shadow's fight with the thing is one hell of a symbolic parallel to Sonic's fight with Chaos!!!!
I always thought he said "created..." instead of "could he?". that would be more of a reference to how he thinks about shadows being as a whole and that shadow says that sonic might be the real ultimate life form(as shadow was based on super sonic, but the characters do not know that)
I agree. If the Master Emerald can turn the Chaos Emeralds into Super Emeralds, then there should be no problem for the Master Emerald to change it's size, like you said.
So Knuckles could just have it in his glove for all we know. It would be a smart move for protection as NO ONE WANTS TO SEE WHAT'S BENEATH A SONIC CHARACTER GLOVES. WE KNOW HOW IT IS AND HALF A GENERATION WAS TRAUMATIZED.
I just want to know why tf Knuckles can remove it from Angel Island. Isn't the entire point of the Master Emerald is that it sustains the island in the air? And yet he can somehow take it with him with no problem.
@@utopian4769 Until recently and Frontiers, lore hasn't been something SEGA cared about. They only started giving a shit in 2020 with the first Sonic movie
25:12 the first prototype was based on the perfect chaos mural found in the mystic ruins but it failed so the other option was the supersonic mural which is why shadow looks the way he does
Most of the sins seemed to involve: A) Not being able to hear anyone over the music. B) Everyone cutting eachother off before they finished their sentences. But seriously, how hard could it be to just turn the music down a bit?
Actually, After Perfect Chaos was defeated by Super Sonic, the Station Square government might have found one of the Emeralds after Sonic was done with them and rewarded it to Tails for stopping Eggman's nuke.
Nope, Knuckles has 6 when Chaos 6 is beaten, the 7th is actually mounted to the front of the plane Tails used to fly himself and Sonic onto the Egg Carrier which ends up crashing into the Mystic Ruins Forest when Big the Cat flies it from the Egg Carrier to the forest. So Station Square government never had a Chaos Emerald at all. Sega messed up the story and didn't notice it.
Oh, also maybe the reason Shadow fell and Sonic didn't was some DBZ stuff. Sonic has gone super before but this is Shadow's first time.Maybe Sonic's learned how to use his power more efficiently so he can last longer.
You do realized that the English Voice lines are in sync with the Japanese Voice lines and the Japanese Lines are shorter, which is why some English lines are interrupted or cut off.
Absolutely! I love this game to death but it's clear to me that the game has aged too much. I want this sound design cleaned up so people can truly appreciate the story as it was meant to. A graphical update would also be great as well. If only the original voices came back for the game however I think a good sound mixer would be enough
17:45 I saw that in the real time dub and was absolutely sure that, for some reason, this was edited into the footage. *Never would I have believed that this is in the original game, what the fuck*
I heard the Sonic/Shadow mix up explained like this: Sonic was the only anthropomorphic super powered hedgehog they knew about. And since Shadow had similar powers, and since Sonic could have gotten new shoes, changed his quill style, and painted himself new colors they figured it was Sonic. Why would he have changed his colors and looks, you ask? As a disguise or something... Idk. I still think the mix up is ridiculous, but that explanation made it seem a little more sensible.
Honestly I don't have a problem with this at all sonic 06 Amy confuses silver for sonic. She confuses the werehog for sonic (even though he technically was sonic) he'll tails even confuse classic sonic for modern sonic even though classic sonic is shorter and chubbier at least the sonic series is consistent with the confusion of other characters. Which makes this set of events less agregous. Also shadows initial concept was to literally be a reflection of sonic, and they were supposed to look pretty much exactley like eachother with the quills and everything you can even see in concept art in Google images if you want. That's why sonic and shadow say they look exactley alike. I'm assuming they changed the design so he can be more of his own character also be more appealing (cuz the old design kind of looked ugly) I think this change was smart at the sacrifice of it being odd. EVEN than though I still can buy this in every way, spiderman gets the black symbiote and everyone still recognizes him as spiderman albeit with a new costume. This could be similar to that.
when they were writing that part of the script, they were working with Terios - who looks a lot more like Sonic. they later switched the mirror character to Shadow, but they didn't think {or just didnt have the time} to change the plot to fit a character that looks different
Man, you forgot the greatest sin, the one I never understood. Just think... There are 7 Chaos Emeralds Shadow throws the first one, which he stole, at the Cannon Rouge suddenly appear with another one They steal 3 Emeralds from the Prison Island 1 + 1 + 3 = 5 They had 5 Emeralds But then, there seens to be only one left (the one with Tails). How did they get the sixth Emerald???
Eggman most likely had one already, he has a keen interest in them thanks to their "UNLIMITED POWER!".(Whoops, wrong quo-ah, who cares)Therefore, i'd make sense for him to have at least one.
The biggest problem I have with this game is the overpowered background music over the voice acting. Also, damn, this is the darkest Sonic game to date.
Seriously. I'm only an amateur at sound mixing, having only taken a course for a year, and I could probably do a better job with the audio levels than the people who made this game.
After rewatching this, I only now had realized something, if Tails was smart enough to create the weaker version of the Chaos Emeralds, why hasn't he made more in the event they need it? Now you could argue that they are too weak to go super, but I'll argue that if Tails at least made 1 Sonic could use Chaos Control to solve some issues, this also goes for Shadow in the event they don't/can't find the chaos emeralds, like in Sonic Forces where if they had these fake emeralds, they could have fooled Eggman, which to quote Tails "Even a machine can't tell the difference" and the only reason Eggman knew it was a fake was because Tails slipped up. Plus they have enough energy to counter the actual emeralds. Also they are strong enough to be used multiple times as soon with Sonic, even after Chaos control it clearly isn't shattered or broken. TL;DR, Why doesn't Tails just make more fake emeralds so that they have more access to Chaos based moves? IT is made clear all you need to do is see the damn move as sonic preforms Chaos Control only seeing it once or twice. Plus this could work as an alternate power source of Tails' invention Literally the main characters would only benefit from making fake emeralds more often. What if they need a real emerald to make a copy? Go find the emerald? I mean they've found them plenty of times so just find one
You know... that's pretty smart observation! This would cut sonic games in half! I think the only excuse I can think is hard to mass produce them or in some moment Tails forgot the plants of making one but either way would still get a pretty good advantage but...How Tails created these fake emeralds? I don't know much about Sonic but I know that the emeralds are ancient artifacts of imesurable power soo how he got the technology to do and...why didn't the guverment thought on thet?...WHAT ARE THE RULES GOD DAMNIT
@@Breakaway-ic5gj But isn't this the only time in the games Tails makes a fake one? If he was doing this years, then it would make sense for Eggman to create a emerald detector to find out which one is fake. And okay, fair it probably took him a large chunk of time to create one. But my counter point is- It wouldn't/shouldn't stop him from making a set, it isn't like Eggman is attacking them every moment, even with the timeline being- no so straight forward the games do have down time between them. However I'm not sure it ultimately matters, it would probably be out of character for most of them to use chaos attacks the same way Shadow does, there have been plenty of chances for Sonic to use Chaos Control and such but never chose to do it, in the case against SA 2 Shadow in his boss fight, one could argue Sonic is being pushed to his limit and only then justifies the use of Chaos Control, which would (kinda?) explain why Super sonic is usually never considered (this last one is brought to you by- me, making an excuse for the writers to not mention the chaos or master emerald)
Shadow’s inhibitor rings limited his power, but when he took them off, he used more power than it should’ve, and he was weak when he fell back down, meaning he couldn’t fly back up.
@@ink_snow7334 Yeah, but then again SA2 was made before Sonic X I believe and some people only consider it an adaptation and not the actual events, so take that how they will.
Dude, this series is awesome. It'd be such a shame if you stopped doing it. I'll even wait 6 months for the next video to come out, take all the time you need, just please don't stop ;_;
-10 sins because of Escape from the City -10 more sins for the rest of the music -20 sins for the entire Chao garden +10 sins for Tails/Robotnik stages and hearing BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEP from shooting the whole time +10 sins for the entire existence of Knuckles/Rouge stages +5 sins for camera +1000 sins for Omochao
@@noahgaming8833 raptor thinks shadow only using his super form once led to his death, Sonic on the other hand lived while falling from space when first going super aswell
To highlight the dialogue issues: One, characters interrupt each other constantly because this game was made with Japanese dialogue in mind; listening to the Japanese actors makes the conversations flow more smoothly and is also why something like Maria is spelled, “Ma-Ri-A.” is used instead of “M-a-r-I-a” since the former is how you do so in Japanese Katakana. And two, barely hearing the characters at all is due to the music drowning out the character voices and this is most apparent in the HD version of SA2 Battle. While the original Dreamcast and even the GameCube versions still have this problem, it’s not nearly as bad and I recommend the GameCube version since its controller just feels so natural for it; though the HD version can also be modded to have a certain randomizer, so yeah.
The best part of SA2: Rolling around at the speed of sound Got places to go, gotta follow my rainbow Can't stick around, have to keep movin' on Guess what lies ahead, only one way to find out Must keep on movin' ahead No time for guessin', follow my plan instead Trusting in what you can't see Take my lead, I'll set you free Follow me - set me free - trust me And we will escape from the city I'll make it through, follow - Follow me - set me free - trust me And we will escape from the city I'll make it through, prove it to you Follow me Danger is lurking around every turn Trust your feelings, gotta live and learn I know with some luck that I'll make it through Got no other options, only one things to do I don't care what lies ahead No time for guessin', follow my plan instead Find that next stage no matter what that may be Take my lead, I'll set you free Follow me - set me free - trust me And we will escape from the city I'll make it through, follow - Follow me - set me free - trust me And we will escape from the city I'll make it through, prove it to you Follow me Follow me I'll make it through, Oh, yeah.
The reason Sonic didn't die but Shadow did is because Shadow put all of his effort and energy into stopping it, whereas Sonic couldn't be assed saving anyone and only went about half power. Shadow done all the work and died as a result. Heck, Sonic even lets go when Shadow goes all out, just like "eh, he's tryharding now so I'll just leave it to him." And didn't Shadow take off his Inhibiter Rings? That's probably how Sonic got them but not Shadow. Also, We have seen Sonic fall from space and land face-first into the ground without so much of a bruise, are we really supposed to believe Shadow would die from that fall when he's actually *stronger* than Sonic?!
+Darth Dood I thought he did die? He Just got replaced by a variety of clones and robots which is why He has no memory at then start of every game because hes actually a different Shadow replica... although it is implied that one of them might be the real Shadow
Actually, it's because they never re-synched the acting for the English dub. The back and forth translation IS responsible for stuff like Shadow shouting "Is that what Chaos Control is!?" instead of "Was that Chaos Control!?" and all of the Japanese shouting being carried over into English like Sonic shouting "Teriah", Eggman using "Yosh" and Knuckles using "Oraoraora"
18:40 *Rouge’s* theme plays when it’s focused on *Shadow* And they cut each other off when Tails hits the space ship of because let’s face it, we all do that, right?
21:17 does that make Eggman and Maria related? And why doesn't the Professor care about Eggman as much as he does Maria? AND WHY DOESN'T *SEGA* MAKE A ORIGIN STORY ABOUT EGGMAN?! And what about Maria? We barley know anything about her, accept the fact she died on the Ark and she couldn't got to Earth because of her disease. But she still needs and origin story. The Gamers/Viewers still have questions like "who are Maria's and Eggman's parents?" "How did Maria get her disease?'' "Why did Eggman become evil and why does he hate Sonic so much?" The comics gave us most of these anwsers but those were told in a different story. in the comics Maria sacrificed herself for shadow, We got the origins of sonic and Eggman, and how they became who they are now. But the games expects us to know the origins of these characters. Some of these gamers/viewers don't know crap of these character Origins. I bet *SEGA* knows either. They just *ASSUMED* we knew and just mae the games without any backstory or a prolouge.
Well to be fair.. this is the 2ND adventure (title wise) half of your questions such as why is eggman evil and hates sonic is not something people would be asking in the 2ND Installment. As for Maria. I see her as a prop, Her excisitense alone was merely for shadows origin...and I think Gerald was staying in the arc wit Maria while eggman lived on earth
Man if your story doesn't tell or show a thing on the actual media and instead show on another media soo the story has bad telling, the one line ONE line who shows a little of Eggman past is past Eggman on Generations saying "I should stayed on college to teaching" (something like that) and even then we can't actually tell if is actually veridic because might just be a thrown away joke
Eggman wanted to build an amusement park and Sonic stops him. He tries again and his plan fails... Again, that is why Eggman hates sonic. Also Maria was most likely born with the disease.
Shadow: is that what chaos control is? I remember reading online somewhere that line was just a bad translation and Shadow was supposed to say "Was that chaos control?", which makes a lot more sense than his original line (since he was asking if the Biolizard had just used chaos control).
Man, I forgot how often the voice syncs screw up in SA2B. Kudos for getting the cutscenes in chronological order. Also, strike for you Tails. You saw a news broadcast about a secret military base. Not so secret then, is it?
I always wondered how Gerald went from a giant lizard to a small hedgehog too until I thought about it. Gerald researched the ancient echidna tribe so he likely saw the mural of Perfect Chaos in the Lost World of Mystic Ruins so he made Artificial Chaos and eventually used Perfect Chaos as the basis of the Biolizard. When the prototype proved to be a flop he used the mural of Super Sonic located in the Hidden Palace as the basis for Shadow.
Hey Shadow, instead of wasting, like 5 mins fighting sonic... How about just telling him that your colleague is trapped in a prison cell with a chaos emerald on this island... THAT IS RIGGED WITH EXPLOSIVES!
For Sin #162 and #163, that is actually one of Shadow's inhibitor rings, and when he removes them, he is granted extreme power, but much shorter stamina. When Shadow fell to Earth, Sonic most likely found the ring and gave to Rouge as a gift to remember Shadow. And the reason that Sonic survived and Shadow didn't is because Sonic didn't use all of his remaining energy (damn main character immunity. xD). And like I said before, Sonic didn't fall because Shadow removed the inhibitor rings, which means more power but less stamina.
DiamondJoyride im not trying to be an as*hole but i said the exact same stuff. its right under this comment. XD (or its under this comment from what i see)
4:34 Shadow, please don't interrupt Sonic. Also, I can't hear you! Isn't that basically every cutscene in that game? I love the story of that game, but everyone cutting each other off and loud music playing in the background makes it hard to follow.
That thing about the Echidna Tribe - It's supposedly called the Knuckles Tribe (coincidence, right?) and had been gone for 4000 years according to a dead echidna named Tikal. Knuckles is one of the few descendants.
Corobby I find that it also works oit in some cutscenes, usually in something like Sonic Vs. Shadow where Sonic is just very pissed about there being an imposter.
No, Dimm, most older forms of Japanese are more long-winded, but modern Japanese is riddled with so many abbreviations and colloquialisms that it does end up being faster than English pretty often.
+ivaldi13 That's pretty interesting. I always thought that since Japanese is less meaning-dense than English, it would hardly be faster, but the former does use a lot of omissions.
Other than chucking Sonic out into space and letting him crash into the earth. Seriously, if Shadow fell unconscious upon impact in his Super form, Sonic should've died.
+MrCStache Yeah, I just still find it kind of stupid....Specifically with Sonic, considering that Shadow was rescued by one of Eggman's robots while just coming out of his Super form...And Sonic is apparently a f*cking Kryptonian.
***** Either that or the laws of physics in Sonic's universe are bullsh- *realizes that Sonic and Eggman can breathe in space, the Lost Hex actually exists, there is literally a creature that could erase time and space at will and Chaos Emeralds....Just anything involving the Chaos Emeralds, and the Emeralds in general* .....I....I'll just stop....F*cking Sonic, f*cking hedgehogs, f*cking Eggman, all the f*cking sh*t.......
32 - Why of course the japanese says "Hedgehog impostor". 73 - Why is everyone misunderstanding what she said? 5 MINUTES enough to get the Chaos Emeralds, no "Set the bomb in 5 minutes". Or else, whats the point of having a 10 minute White Jungle later? (Or should I said, 10 minutes in cutscene here: 10:19) 74 - I think they would not consider that a better option. If they knew she works undercover for Eggman, hanging over the Emeralds are not the best choice. 158 - Fap fap?
This was my favorite game when I was younger and my first GameCube game alongside Animal Crossing. Played it again recently in 2014. Never gets old to me.
3:53 The “What?” scene is my favorite because I saw an edit where Shadow says “I’m making f*cking mac and cheese, and no one can stop me!” while the chaos emeralds is replaced by a box of Kraft mac and cheese, and it is the funniest thing ever.
SmearyPage 10 months late, but this has to be said. That is DEFINITELY not the only thing wrong with this game. This game was awful in almost every aspect it presented. And people only like it for nostalgia reasons. Any other reason other than legitimately liking a terrible game is just moot.
which is only a problem in the English versions of the game, the sound mixing is just fine in the Japanese version (They made the cutscenes, the team in San Francisco made the gameplay)
yeah you have a point but it was the second good 3d sonic game in the series. They wanted to get some stuff across. I sure they didn't do this on purpose
To answer your question about Maria, she lives on the ARK because she basically has no immune system and can't risk living in an unsterilized environment.
@GGR Makes yes
wait, that means that the raid on the space station by the government would of introduce many germs to the space station, meaning that she was most likely dead even if she didnt get shot, meaning there no way for the dad to know if it was an accidental death or not, meaning his whole revenge thing is even more crazy
@@LUNA-zn7ep I think it was revealed in the manual in SA2
@@dancorps1388 except for, you know, the bullet hole
@@seg_fault884 Well, that's why he said ""even *IF* she didn't get shot""
Technically, shadow is Eggman's uncle in some twisted way.
Great Uncle.
@@SuperMonaLisaBros No it is just uncle because if shadow were to be in a twisted way a great uncle then he in the same manner would be geralds sibling but that cant be it because gerald created shadow and unless you give me some B.S about the black arms no, just no.
You are the eye opener
So what would that make black doom?
@A lonely artist Don't give deviantart any ideas!
the "Amy rose is here" that increases the counter killed me XD
Best reason lf the world for the sin counter
And the big delay between never fear, and Amy rose is here.
As it should
i don’t care how ridiculous and flawed this game is, you will find me dead before i stop crying at Sonic saying “Sayonara, Shadow the Hedgehog”
Hutch2Much it was a very sad moment :(
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT THIS GAME?
Every bit of the ending had me in a waterfall, even the dumb part where tails replied to Eggman's deep moment with "idk, but we all did it together"
But how did sonic even KNOW ABOUT THAT QUOTE FROM MARIA
I know right somehow I can't help but shed a tear during the finale
People in Sonic Universe: I don't know, you hedgehogs all look the same to me
But they can tell the difference to Amy and Sonic
Kirby and Dedede That's the funny part. So I'm guessing it's just "I can't tell the difference between hedgehogs if the same gender."
I mean....to be fair the people have seen sonic transform in sa1 during the chaos attack. Quills are the same, different color yes. Probably mistaken for another transformation
@@HealingVoice39 I can tell the difference between sonic, Shadow and silver.
No it’s people on earth: all you hedgehogs look the same I’m gonna go after the blue one even though it was the black hedgehog on the news but since we’re so dumb we’ll go after the black hedgehog
There's actually a potential sin I wanna bring up here; rewind to Gerald Robatnik's execution, he announces his entire plan for revenge before a shooting squad and not a singe one decided to think: "Maybe I should tell my superiors to investigate the Ark for ANYTHING he just said" sure he was a raving lunatic by the time they killed him, but given that he actually headed to the Project Shadow you'd think that'd warrent enough credibility to at least double check his threats...
ShadowBlade972 Something I should bring up for this is how did the footage of Gerald's execution get sent to the ARK and who sent it? It couldn't have been Gerald; he was dead. A G.U.N. soldier or the commander? So they just decided, "Who wants to see this footage, let's just send it to ARK so no one can find out what happened. Who cares what Gerald said? He was insane. It's not like anything he said is important. Let's just destroy his existence."? If that's the case, that's one irresponsible, naive and disorganised army.
Sonic Parks I’m pretty sure Charriii mentioned that. But yeah, those are good point.
He did say, "How did he program the ARK to reproduce this 50-year-old HD WMV file of his own execution?", but he assumes that it was Gerald who sent it, when he couldn't have because that very file showed him speaking his final words, thus, he was dead.
So are you shad. Or are you Blaze
@Daniel von Strangle To be completely fair, I agree with some of these theories but as I was reading your points I came up with this: Maybe, the reason all of that was possible was because Shadow set it all up he did say he some how "reprogrammed" The ultimate life form which we assume to either mean Shadow or bio-lizard. Given Shadow was on earth it seemed more likely for it to be him. Also he was a "secret government project" few knew about so in reality it wouldn't be too hard to believe in his time off camera (which is quite a lot actually) he could have set all of this up. Also explains his change of heart near the end maybe it was temporary brain washing or something that caused him to want to go through with such a plan though that seems like a stretch. Anyhow that's my take on the whole execution projection and arc kamikaze thing.
11:05 the relation is that Shadow blames himself for Maria's death and he didn't want to be the one that caused another person's death. That's why he saved Rouge.
Shadow just doesn’t want to see someone he cares about die again
5:58 *Chariii5:* Physics? What are those?
*Shadow:* Exactly!
[ding]
Good one
lol God Christ Jesus bless you all
i pray you all can have a wonderful relationship with God full of love joy and happiness:" )
@@joshd1071 thank you
8:41 Charriii clearly says "what are those black lines on Amy's shoes" but the subtitles read boots. *Ding*
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More like 8:42
Monster man would be good at CinemaSins.
The black lines are a error.
I guess he was correcting himself.
So many people complain about Rouge saying "Five minutes is plenty" when mentioning the time limit of Security hall
You do know Eggman told Shadow to set the BOMB for 15 minutes.....to BLOW UP the island.....
If she took the 15 minutes to get the chaos emeralds, then she would have blown up with the island.
5 Minutes to get the emeralds, 10 minutes to meetup with Eggman/get the fuck off the island.
DING
My only gripe with that sentiment is that she says “5 minutes should be plenty,” AFTER Eggman tells Shadow 15 minutes on the bomb. She doesn’t specify 5 minutes for the emeralds, she’s implying she only needs 5 minutes on the bomb’s timer.
@@chrismaystar3014 I'm 95% sure she's talking to herself for that line. She's not talking into her walkie-talkie that she has when she's locked in the vault.
Anafyral Weyferling Good point. No one responds to her statement.
Yeah, that works
Thank you! I don't know why people have such a hard time understanding this!
Well, if you think about it "Fake Hedgehog" is appropriate since Shadow is supposed to be an artificial life form.
But then again, no way Sonic could've known that he was an artificial life form, he just thought he was an imposter so....Still a sin.
+Dr. Cardus
And talking about 'Fake X', Shadow saying "an Emerald that's fake" is an example of extremely poor translation/no-one looking over the translation to find oddities. "A fake Emerald" is so much better, in English, because the one used is so...roundabout, unnatural.
Did an English team do the writing? Or did any natural English speakers read over the translations provided by Japanese writers? Doesn't seem like it.
+PokeMaster22222 In the final story, in the cutscene that plays after you defeat the Biolizard, once the lizard will use Chaos Control Shadow will say "Is that what...Chaos Control is?" which is ALSO a translation error (I don't remember now what he said in the japanese version though)
+Dr. Cardus That's what I was thinking too!
+Dr. Cardus In Sonic adventure 2 shadow is alive, due to fans loving him SEGA had to think of a way to bring him back.
I died in every "I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
Same.
Charriii: What's impossible? That someone other than Sonic defies you, or that there's another male hedgehog besides Sonic?
Me: ...Yes.
Remember Amy?
@@remixchildamy is a female hedgehog not a male hedgehog like he specified
Silver exists too
@@Gorilla-r4g i mean mephiles
Ah yeah silver was in sonic adventure 1
Just saying, that Shadow voice at the beginning was spot on. XD
Arianne Frampton In SA2 it's pretty cool if you can sound like Shadow, but in any other game you just deepen your voice and you're like "IEM SHADO"
+periquete I was expecting this to be top comment! Nice one, man!
Yep. Amazing.
you should hear mine it's closer to the ones in the games
+trenthedgehog1671 Quit bragging
If anyone is wondering about the sin at 26:30, I have a guess about what sonic was mumbling about. If you play the final battle against the Final Hazard, there is a 5 min limit before you fail the battle. But if you play up to the 4 minute mark, Shadow will say something along the lines that he believes the ultimate lifeform is actually Sonic.
This is kinda the equivalent to like Vegeta Saying Goku is the best in the buu arc. Well that’s how I see it.
Oh wow...
I heard that once, but if sonic is the ultimate life form then what exactly is shadow (though it's explained in his game it isn't here, plus how is shadow able to become super? He shouldn't be able to do thay
No he didnt
"Could he... the ultimate life form?"
Is what Sonic said.
the part with Shadow seeing Maria and Rouge actually makes sense. He was sort of comparing the two, seeing Rouge as a girl in a dear-death situation that made her helpless, just like Maria
Wait a sec!
In the prison scene, Amy says "You mean that black hedgehog?"
If you could have clearly seen that he was in fact a black hedgehog, then how in the name of fuck did you confuse him for a bright blue hedgehog in the middle of broad day light?
You know YOUR FUCKING RIGHT
In a comic Amy says that the sun's light was in her face.
But the comics is not relevant with the game
Ghostx2xelite but they tried to explain how amy confused shadow with sonic
But that doesn't matter because it's not apart of the games
according to Geralds calculations, you could watch this video perfectly in the 27 minutes, 53 seconds left until ark crashes
wow just noticed that haha
Zeddy I know you're not named Nebby but your picture is Nebby so get in the bag???
Zeddy I see u watch Chad BOP IT
Dude really?
Zeddy one second after this video is over
You go from a giant lizard to a hedgehog cause Biolizard was based off of Chaos and Shadow was based off of the super hedgehog fighting him in the mural from Sonic Adventure. HOW DOES ANYONE NOT REALIZE THIS??
Well first Gerald made Shadow fifty years before the fight and 2. Why the hell would Gerald not give his grandson a spanking for trying to take over the world if he was still alive at that point and 2. Why the hell would Gerald care about or be in station square at the time
Ghostx2xelite Yeah, because Shadow was made before the ancients made that mural.
What fucking moral
Ghostx2xelite The mural seen in Sonic Adventure depicting perfect chaos fighting a super hedgehog?
Holy shit...I always knew the 2nd fact...but the Biolizard thing just blew my mind! That means that...Shadow's fight with the thing is one hell of a symbolic parallel to Sonic's fight with Chaos!!!!
27:24 Sonic was wondering if Shadow died. He said in quote: "Could he... the ultimate life form?"
I always thought he said "created..." instead of "could he?". that would be more of a reference to how he thinks about shadows being as a whole and that shadow says that sonic might be the real ultimate life form(as shadow was based on super sonic, but the characters do not know that)
@@lpfan4491 e
All I heard when I first played the game was "Ultimate"
@@lpfan4491 yea I did too but u can clearly hear could he
@@elibonham4388Innit
GAMING SIN TALLY: 168
SENTENCE: *REVENGE*
"wait. revenge? revenge for what?" DING
169 Sins den
kosobay lol DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING
kosobay lol DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
EarnhardtCountry so 227 sins?
Will whydoineedalastname
......For killing Maria...?
According to Sonic Lore, The Master Emerald can change size.
I agree. If the Master Emerald can turn the Chaos Emeralds into Super Emeralds, then there should be no problem for the Master Emerald to change it's size, like you said.
So Knuckles could just have it in his glove for all we know.
It would be a smart move for protection as NO ONE WANTS TO SEE WHAT'S BENEATH A SONIC CHARACTER GLOVES. WE KNOW HOW IT IS AND HALF A GENERATION WAS TRAUMATIZED.
@@conic2721 to
I just want to know why tf Knuckles can remove it from Angel Island. Isn't the entire point of the Master Emerald is that it sustains the island in the air? And yet he can somehow take it with him with no problem.
@@utopian4769 Until recently and Frontiers, lore hasn't been something SEGA cared about. They only started giving a shit in 2020 with the first Sonic movie
11:06 - The relation is that Shadow doesn't want to lose anyone as he lost Maria. Duh.
and explosion
Captain Fire How is that a hater? He was just answering Charriii’s question.
But he doesn’t even care about Rouge
@@riahlexington It just reminded him of someone he couldn't save
Everyone in the sonic universe: *Looks at shadow* OMG ITS SONIC!
Sonic: wtf?...
Well in the famous words of plagg kwami of destruction. People are blind! 😂🤭
25:12 the first prototype was based on the perfect chaos mural found in the mystic ruins but it failed so the other option was the supersonic mural which is why shadow looks the way he does
Why they didn't kill that creature?
Most of the sins seemed to involve:
A) Not being able to hear anyone over the music.
B) Everyone cutting eachother off before they finished their sentences.
But seriously, how hard could it be to just turn the music down a bit?
Cough cough still can't can't hear the voices cough wheeze
Yep
I couldn't hear the voices even if with music down :/
Sorry what did you say? I can't hear you over the music
Actually, After Perfect Chaos was defeated by Super Sonic, the Station Square government might have found one of the Emeralds after Sonic was done with them and rewarded it to Tails for stopping Eggman's nuke.
Also, in the background of the scene with Knuckles and Rouge almost falling in the lava, in the background, BIG THE CAT!!!
Actually, he can be seen in almost every level and by him I mean BIIIIIG THEEEE CAAAAAAAAAAAA-
Nope, Knuckles has 6 when Chaos 6 is beaten, the 7th is actually mounted to the front of the plane Tails used to fly himself and Sonic onto the Egg Carrier which ends up crashing into the Mystic Ruins Forest when Big the Cat flies it from the Egg Carrier to the forest. So Station Square government never had a Chaos Emerald at all. Sega messed up the story and didn't notice it.
Oh, also maybe the reason Shadow fell and Sonic didn't was some DBZ stuff. Sonic has gone super before but this is Shadow's first time.Maybe Sonic's learned how to use his power more efficiently so he can last longer.
That would imply that Sonic kept the Emeralds in his possession to use them for that purpose which without another source cannot be proven.
Normal Universe: *all hedgehogs are unique from one another*
Sonic Universe: *it's normal for Amy to be mistaken for silver*
You do realized that the English Voice lines are in sync with the Japanese Voice lines and the Japanese Lines are shorter, which is why some English lines are interrupted or cut off.
Aren't dipshit
They kinda are.
Either way does it matter this video isn't suppose to explain why things are happening
That actually explains a lot
but why is the music significantly louder than the dialogue?
Anybody think SEGA should remake SA 1 & 2?
Definitely. I know there's the HD remakes, but I want a full-on remaster of this game and adventure 1.
+MetalSonicReject There's a lot of things that SEGA should be doing rn...
+Dear Sega Probably, but I think this would make them more successful.
Absolutely! I love this game to death but it's clear to me that the game has aged too much. I want this sound design cleaned up so people can truly appreciate the story as it was meant to. A graphical update would also be great as well. If only the original voices came back for the game however I think a good sound mixer would be enough
+Joseph Franc well Sega needs better voice actors and writers because "you're" was used incorrectly and bothered the cap out of me.
17:45 I saw that in the real time dub and was absolutely sure that, for some reason, this was edited into the footage. *Never would I have believed that this is in the original game, what the fuck*
I haven't seen the dub version nor the original version once before.
I laughed. xD
Maria... *Explosion*
I heard the Sonic/Shadow mix up explained like this: Sonic was the only anthropomorphic super powered hedgehog they knew about. And since Shadow had similar powers, and since Sonic could have gotten new shoes, changed his quill style, and painted himself new colors they figured it was Sonic. Why would he have changed his colors and looks, you ask? As a disguise or something... Idk. I still think the mix up is ridiculous, but that explanation made it seem a little more sensible.
Honestly I don't have a problem with this at all sonic 06 Amy confuses silver for sonic. She confuses the werehog for sonic (even though he technically was sonic) he'll tails even confuse classic sonic for modern sonic even though classic sonic is shorter and chubbier at least the sonic series is consistent with the confusion of other characters. Which makes this set of events less agregous. Also shadows initial concept was to literally be a reflection of sonic, and they were supposed to look pretty much exactley like eachother with the quills and everything you can even see in concept art in Google images if you want. That's why sonic and shadow say they look exactley alike. I'm assuming they changed the design so he can be more of his own character also be more appealing (cuz the old design kind of looked ugly) I think this change was smart at the sacrifice of it being odd.
EVEN than though I still can buy this in every way, spiderman gets the black symbiote and everyone still recognizes him as spiderman albeit with a new costume. This could be similar to that.
when they were writing that part of the script, they were working with Terios - who looks a lot more like Sonic. they later switched the mirror character to Shadow, but they didn't think {or just didnt have the time} to change the plot to fit a character that looks different
Man, you forgot the greatest sin, the one I never understood. Just think...
There are 7 Chaos Emeralds
Shadow throws the first one, which he stole, at the Cannon
Rouge suddenly appear with another one
They steal 3 Emeralds from the Prison Island
1 + 1 + 3 = 5
They had 5 Emeralds
But then, there seens to be only one left (the one with Tails). How did they get the sixth Emerald???
I think Eggman had one at the begening.
Eggman had one to unlock Shadow's Capsule, which is separate from the one Shadow stole from the bank.
Caio Leite eggman put the one he had from the beginning off screen.
Eggman most likely had one already, he has a keen interest in them thanks to their "UNLIMITED POWER!".(Whoops, wrong quo-ah, who cares)Therefore, i'd make sense for him to have at least one.
magic?
The biggest problem I have with this game is the overpowered background music over the voice acting. Also, damn, this is the darkest Sonic game to date.
***** "Darkest Sonic GAME"
TheWraithOfMooCow Nvm, I misread your comment. IGNORE ME!!!
I dunno, just the overall tone of Gerald Robotnik sentencing the whole world to death in the end scenes gives me the creeps. xP
semaseri x ...How?
TheWraithOfMooCow you got to see what would happen should Sonic fail to stop Eggman, it gives a strong feeling of hopelessness
did the people who made this game not realize that the music for the cutscenes is TOO FREAKING LOUD!
Seriously. I'm only an amateur at sound mixing, having only taken a course for a year, and I could probably do a better job with the audio levels than the people who made this game.
maybe the ones who did the audio were newbies too...
+Tailz A I sincerely hope so, as that's the only reasonable excuse I can think of for the music being too loud, besides incompetence.
+AdmiralOctopus I'm pretty sure it's because this game was really rushed, AND it's a port form the dreamcast.
Falco Tier One '06 was rushed, yet the sound mixing is perfectly fine. Same goes for Rise of Lyric.
After rewatching this, I only now had realized something, if Tails was smart enough to create the weaker version of the Chaos Emeralds, why hasn't he made more in the event they need it? Now you could argue that they are too weak to go super, but I'll argue that if Tails at least made 1 Sonic could use Chaos Control to solve some issues, this also goes for Shadow in the event they don't/can't find the chaos emeralds, like in Sonic Forces where if they had these fake emeralds, they could have fooled Eggman, which to quote Tails "Even a machine can't tell the difference" and the only reason Eggman knew it was a fake was because Tails slipped up. Plus they have enough energy to counter the actual emeralds. Also they are strong enough to be used multiple times as soon with Sonic, even after Chaos control it clearly isn't shattered or broken.
TL;DR, Why doesn't Tails just make more fake emeralds so that they have more access to Chaos based moves? IT is made clear all you need to do is see the damn move as sonic preforms Chaos Control only seeing it once or twice. Plus this could work as an alternate power source of Tails' invention
Literally the main characters would only benefit from making fake emeralds more often.
What if they need a real emerald to make a copy? Go find the emerald? I mean they've found them plenty of times so just find one
You know... that's pretty smart observation! This would cut sonic games in half! I think the only excuse I can think is hard to mass produce them or in some moment Tails forgot the plants of making one but either way would still get a pretty good advantage but...How Tails created these fake emeralds? I don't know much about Sonic but I know that the emeralds are ancient artifacts of imesurable power soo how he got the technology to do and...why didn't the guverment thought on thet?...WHAT ARE THE RULES GOD DAMNIT
@@Eric-py8yy it didn’t really matter, eggman knew it was a fake
Because it's probably really hard to make and Eggman developed something to detect the fakes probably
@@Breakaway-ic5gj But isn't this the only time in the games Tails makes a fake one? If he was doing this years, then it would make sense for Eggman to create a emerald detector to find out which one is fake.
And okay, fair it probably took him a large chunk of time to create one. But my counter point is- It wouldn't/shouldn't stop him from making a set, it isn't like Eggman is attacking them every moment, even with the timeline being- no so straight forward the games do have down time between them.
However I'm not sure it ultimately matters, it would probably be out of character for most of them to use chaos attacks the same way Shadow does, there have been plenty of chances for Sonic to use Chaos Control and such but never chose to do it, in the case against SA 2 Shadow in his boss fight, one could argue Sonic is being pushed to his limit and only then justifies the use of Chaos Control, which would (kinda?) explain why Super sonic is usually never considered (this last one is brought to you by- me, making an excuse for the writers to not mention the chaos or master emerald)
Shadow’s inhibitor rings limited his power, but when he took them off, he used more power than it should’ve, and he was weak when he fell back down, meaning he couldn’t fly back up.
Perfect Sonic but he didnt take them of
@@akeemtaylor8375 in Sonic x he does
He’s basically sinning the audience for assuming shadow was dead
@@ink_snow7334 Yeah, but then again SA2 was made before Sonic X I believe and some people only consider it an adaptation and not the actual events, so take that how they will.
Dude, this series is awesome. It'd be such a shame if you stopped doing it. I'll even wait 6 months for the next video to come out, take all the time you need, just please don't stop ;_;
Thanks so much for your patience! It does take quite a while for a one-man band to make these, especially when he also wants to make other videos.
Charriii5
please tell me you're finding a way to do a EWW Sonic 06 cutscenes!
Lonestar327 Probably not.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
Klu
-10 sins because of Escape from the City
-10 more sins for the rest of the music
-20 sins for the entire Chao garden
+10 sins for Tails/Robotnik stages and hearing BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEP from shooting the whole time
+10 sins for the entire existence of Knuckles/Rouge stages
+5 sins for camera
+1000 sins for Omochao
God dammit maths
Trillyana I LOVED THE KNUCKLES/ROUGE STAGES. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!
1,153 sins....wow...
Trillyana
Omochao is worth more
Have you ever played Sonic The Hedgehog Omochao Edition?
If not you have to
Trillyana - 10000 for being able to beat the shit out of Omochao
26:27 i think its because sonic is more experienced in using his super form after all this is shadow's first time using it so it makes sense
still a no, in sonic 2 he was fine after leaving the exploded death egg
@@Glitchy588Live what?
@@noahgaming8833 raptor thinks shadow only using his super form once led to his death,
Sonic on the other hand lived while falling from space when first going super aswell
@@Glitchy588Live that’s why they made shadow the hedgehog
@@noahgaming8833 what?
Eggman's noise around 11:50 left me in tears XD
Um... Is the voice actor ok? Yeah... Let's just keep that take.
@@dragonempress8367 someone got paid for that
"Well it seems shadow was enjoying the moment" 😂😂😂😂😂
8:42 Charriii5 says "What are those black stripes on Amy's shoes?" but the subtitles say "What are those black stripes on Amy's boots?"
DING
12:10 I'm gonna go higher! I'M PISSING ON THE MOON!!!
And fuck Obama
HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA
I PISSED ON THE MOON
You have 23 hours before the piss drrroplets hits the plucking earth, now get out of my plucking earth before i piss on you too!
Lol. That freaking fandub
G. Robotnik says that the Ark will crash into the earth in 27:53. This video is 27:53 seconds long. Clever...
lol i thougt i was the only one to have find it
no its not but
no it's 27:51, close but not yet
To highlight the dialogue issues: One, characters interrupt each other constantly because this game was made with Japanese dialogue in mind; listening to the Japanese actors makes the conversations flow more smoothly and is also why something like Maria is spelled, “Ma-Ri-A.” is used instead of “M-a-r-I-a” since the former is how you do so in Japanese Katakana. And two, barely hearing the characters at all is due to the music drowning out the character voices and this is most apparent in the HD version of SA2 Battle. While the original Dreamcast and even the GameCube versions still have this problem, it’s not nearly as bad and I recommend the GameCube version since its controller just feels so natural for it; though the HD version can also be modded to have a certain randomizer, so yeah.
12:10
*Insert obligatory: "HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA, I PISSED ON THE MOON YOU IDIOT!" comment here*
YOU HAVE TWENTY THREE HOURS BEFORE THE PISS DRRRROPLETS HIT THE FUCKING EARTH! NOW GET OUT OF MY FUCKING SIGHT BEFORE I PISS ON YOU TWO!
"FUCK YOU MOON YOU NEVER HAD THE CHEESE I WANTED!!!!"
I would have said that charriii missed out on an amazing joke, but then I remembered that this video predates the real-time Fandub by 4 years
I like how everytime i watch these cutscenes i forget its not the fandub and expect them to say the lines.
The best part of SA2:
Rolling around at the speed of sound
Got places to go, gotta follow my rainbow
Can't stick around, have to keep movin' on
Guess what lies ahead, only one way to find out
Must keep on movin' ahead
No time for guessin', follow my plan instead
Trusting in what you can't see
Take my lead, I'll set you free
Follow me - set me free - trust me
And we will escape from the city
I'll make it through, follow -
Follow me - set me free - trust me
And we will escape from the city
I'll make it through, prove it to you
Follow me
Danger is lurking around every turn
Trust your feelings, gotta live and learn
I know with some luck that I'll make it through
Got no other options, only one things to do
I don't care what lies ahead
No time for guessin', follow my plan instead
Find that next stage no matter what that may be
Take my lead, I'll set you free
Follow me - set me free - trust me
And we will escape from the city
I'll make it through, follow -
Follow me - set me free - trust me
And we will escape from the city
I'll make it through, prove it to you
Follow me
Follow me
I'll make it through,
Oh, yeah.
Connor Monie no actually the best part of SA2 is Live and Learn
I actually liked Classic Sonic's version of it more then modern, thanks.
Sad
“FOLLOW MY RAINBOW”
Sonic
Is there anything
Anything at all
That you need to tell us
what about chao garden
The reason Sonic didn't die but Shadow did is because Shadow put all of his effort and energy into stopping it, whereas Sonic couldn't be assed saving anyone and only went about half power. Shadow done all the work and died as a result. Heck, Sonic even lets go when Shadow goes all out, just like "eh, he's tryharding now so I'll just leave it to him." And didn't Shadow take off his Inhibiter Rings? That's probably how Sonic got them but not Shadow. Also, We have seen Sonic fall from space and land face-first into the ground without so much of a bruise, are we really supposed to believe Shadow would die from that fall when he's actually *stronger* than Sonic?!
So, long story short: Sonic is a dick to Shadow. *ding*
shadow didnt die
+Darth Dood I thought he did die? He Just got replaced by a variety of clones and robots which is why He has no memory at then start of every game because hes actually a different Shadow replica... although it is implied that one of them might be the real Shadow
Clara Pagett how can a robot die?
Darth Dood
I'm not sure i understand what you are questioning?
if Eggman blew up the moon, science wouldn't allow the Earth to keep on trucking as it had, either...
12:01 *I've come to make an announcement: Shadow the Hedgehog is a bi-*
Ble
The fucking subtitle font is in COMIC SAAAANS
Hue hue hue hue
nyeh heh heh!
+Necrmancer Castle Crashers (The Necromancer) lol
+PixelatedKnux nyeh heh heh
+PixelatedKnux UMG KNACKLES JAMACKLES
Fun fact: this game was translated from English to Japanese, then back to English. That's why the cutscenes desync all the time.
No wonder why their voice acting is shit. :D
well duh... i didnt know people didnt knew that.
+Soshi Tamashi You're stupid it doesn't have anything to do with voice acting it's lip syncing
Actually, it's because they never re-synched the acting for the English dub. The back and forth translation IS responsible for stuff like Shadow shouting "Is that what Chaos Control is!?" instead of "Was that Chaos Control!?" and all of the Japanese shouting being carried over into English like Sonic shouting "Teriah", Eggman using "Yosh" and Knuckles using "Oraoraora"
@@soulless9081 Okay, that's got nothing to do with lip-syncing.
+Charriii5 I read that Sonic is able to perform Chaos Control because he's been exposed to their usable energy forces for so long.
Buts that fake emerald with no choas energy
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*Rouge’s* theme plays when it’s focused on *Shadow*
And they cut each other off when Tails hits the space ship of because let’s face it, we all do that, right?
MISSING SIN: Tails heard about a top-secret base.......... ON TV! Let that sink in. Top-secret base, shown on TV......
I really miss This version of Shadow, especially his voice it was so good
I liked his brittish accent and his DC model...
@@TahirTheMan English accent*.
21:17 does that make Eggman and Maria related? And why doesn't the Professor care about Eggman as much as he does Maria? AND WHY DOESN'T *SEGA* MAKE A ORIGIN STORY ABOUT EGGMAN?! And what about Maria? We barley know anything about her, accept the fact she died on the Ark and she couldn't got to Earth because of her disease. But she still needs and origin story. The Gamers/Viewers still have questions like "who are Maria's and Eggman's parents?" "How did Maria get her disease?'' "Why did Eggman become evil and why does he hate Sonic so much?" The comics gave us most of these anwsers but those were told in a different story. in the comics Maria sacrificed herself for shadow, We got the origins of sonic and Eggman, and how they became who they are now. But the games expects us to know the origins of these characters. Some of these gamers/viewers don't know crap of these character Origins. I bet *SEGA* knows either. They just *ASSUMED* we knew and just mae the games without any backstory or a prolouge.
Related? Yes.
Well to be fair.. this is the 2ND adventure (title wise) half of your questions such as why is eggman evil and hates sonic is not something people would be asking in the 2ND Installment. As for Maria. I see her as a prop, Her excisitense alone was merely for shadows origin...and I think Gerald was staying in the arc wit Maria while eggman lived on earth
I mean Sonic fucks up Eggman Plan since Sonic 1
So that's that
Also yeah sega Will never explain US After Shadow the hedgehog
Man if your story doesn't tell or show a thing on the actual media and instead show on another media soo the story has bad telling, the one line ONE line who shows a little of Eggman past is past Eggman on Generations saying "I should stayed on college to teaching" (something like that) and even then we can't actually tell if is actually veridic because might just be a thrown away joke
Eggman wanted to build an amusement park and Sonic stops him. He tries again and his plan fails... Again, that is why Eggman hates sonic. Also Maria was most likely born with the disease.
Shadow: is that what chaos control is? I remember reading online somewhere that line was just a bad translation and Shadow was supposed to say "Was that chaos control?", which makes a lot more sense than his original line (since he was asking if the Biolizard had just used chaos control).
Dr. Ehgman: don't mind me just having a stroke
Shadow and Rouge: Dafuq
Ehgman
*eHgMaN*
Ehgman
Man, I forgot how often the voice syncs screw up in SA2B. Kudos for getting the cutscenes in chronological order.
Also, strike for you Tails. You saw a news broadcast about a secret military base. Not so secret then, is it?
I always wondered how Gerald went from a giant lizard to a small hedgehog too until I thought about it. Gerald researched the ancient echidna tribe so he likely saw the mural of Perfect Chaos in the Lost World of Mystic Ruins so he made Artificial Chaos and eventually used Perfect Chaos as the basis of the Biolizard. When the prototype proved to be a flop he used the mural of Super Sonic located in the Hidden Palace as the basis for Shadow.
Hey Shadow, instead of wasting, like 5 mins fighting sonic... How about just telling him that your colleague is trapped in a prison cell with a chaos emerald on this island... THAT IS RIGGED WITH EXPLOSIVES!
11:39 Why are Shadow's upgrades showing on a flashback ?
Phantom ruby XD
@@1989BluePhantom *Another Ding*
Thanks, Danilo, can't unsee it now.
Same question I had in SADX why did tails keep the rythm badge
@@benholmes1399 because for the flash backs they use the models (with the upgrades if you have them) it also happens with amy's cd flash back in sa1
For Sin #162 and #163, that is actually one of Shadow's inhibitor rings, and when he removes them, he is granted extreme power, but much shorter stamina. When Shadow fell to Earth, Sonic most likely found the ring and gave to Rouge as a gift to remember Shadow. And the reason that Sonic survived and Shadow didn't is because Sonic didn't use all of his remaining energy (damn main character immunity. xD). And like I said before, Sonic didn't fall because Shadow removed the inhibitor rings, which means more power but less stamina.
I know you fro unknown from M.E knuckles theme lol
shiet dey found me
DiamondJoyride im not trying to be an as*hole but i said the exact same stuff. its right under this comment. XD (or its under this comment from what i see)
Oh. I actually didn't notice that. xD
eh sh*t happens XD
Eggman somehow manages to get smarter, and dumber, at the same time.
4:34 Shadow, please don't interrupt Sonic. Also, I can't hear you!
Isn't that basically every cutscene in that game? I love the story of that game, but everyone cutting each other off and loud music playing in the background makes it hard to follow.
Youre not good enough to be my f- I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS!
7:33 I love how he speaks at the same time as the music xD
are you AB-SO-LUTE-LY SURE
brilliant
Well Belive What You Wat You Want To B.E.L.I.V.E
what the hell sonic
Kyurem The Glaciomancer LOL
Kyurem The Glaciomancer
xD lol I Just regonized
My favorite part:
17:00 "You can fly, dumbass!"
16:58 What was that sound from Rouge when she tripped(Note: Its before the recycled scream)?!
That thing about the Echidna Tribe - It's supposedly called the Knuckles Tribe (coincidence, right?) and had been gone for 4000 years according to a dead echidna named Tikal. Knuckles is one of the few descendants.
Sophie J do you kno de wae, my brotha!!!
Take it away Ross. Y o u ‘ r e is you are! Y o u r is your! I died
Just so you guys know, Sonic and the crew keep interrupting each other so they could talk at the same moment as in the japanese version of the game.
Corobby I find that it also works oit in some cutscenes, usually in something like Sonic Vs. Shadow where Sonic is just very pissed about there being an imposter.
But Japanese is much more long-winded than English.
No, Dimm, most older forms of Japanese are more long-winded, but modern Japanese is riddled with so many abbreviations and colloquialisms that it does end up being faster than English pretty often.
+ivaldi13 That's pretty interesting. I always thought that since Japanese is less meaning-dense than English, it would hardly be faster, but the former does use a lot of omissions.
You: Hehe, discount coca cola
Sonic: WHAT?!?!
You: What? sonic, I can't hear you
17:12
Who Rouge is talking to? None other than the stupid cat himself!
BIG THE CAT!!!
You can't call someone who can pilot vehicles without prior experience stupid. Time to get medieval on your ass.
25:20 that is a mistranslation he is supposed to say "That was chaos control!"
Btw u forgot to add the Sin of Rouge saying "I'm trapped in this locked safe with A chaos emerald" she has three
TERIAAAAA!!!
Also, this is the closest in sonic history that Eggman has gotten to killing sonic.
Other than chucking Sonic out into space and letting him crash into the earth. Seriously, if Shadow fell unconscious upon impact in his Super form, Sonic should've died.
+MrCStache or it was one of the many other shadows seen in Sonic heroes.
+MrCStache Yeah, I just still find it kind of stupid....Specifically with Sonic, considering that Shadow was rescued by one of Eggman's robots while just coming out of his Super form...And Sonic is apparently a f*cking Kryptonian.
***** Either that or the laws of physics in Sonic's universe are bullsh- *realizes that Sonic and Eggman can breathe in space, the Lost Hex actually exists, there is literally a creature that could erase time and space at will and Chaos Emeralds....Just anything involving the Chaos Emeralds, and the Emeralds in general* .....I....I'll just stop....F*cking Sonic, f*cking hedgehogs, f*cking Eggman, all the f*cking sh*t.......
Oh
TERIAAAAAAA!
25:33 I'm not the only one that Sees Shadow turn his head around like a owl right-
probably one of the perks that comes with being the ultimate life form
Holy chaos 0-o
"2:22 Woah, & Knuckles activated Moon Jump Code." *_LMAO_*
A running gag here is that the music is louder than the voices.
Edit: Yeah, no duh, younger me. Lol
Wow... Um, Shadow the Hedgehog had less sins
its just for fun not to be taken seriously
fewer*
Not anymore!
a part of it comes from the horrid localisation sa2 has
But you have to play the game over and over so you have to sin over and over
5:51 sin the fact: “discount Death Star”
The discount Death Star is the Death Egg, not Ark
Shadow? Was that _YOU_ narrating that intro?
wHat joke
YES!!!! but 1 year older
32 - Why of course the japanese says "Hedgehog impostor".
73 - Why is everyone misunderstanding what she said? 5 MINUTES enough to get the Chaos Emeralds, no "Set the bomb in 5 minutes". Or else, whats the point of having a 10 minute White Jungle later? (Or should I said, 10 minutes in cutscene here: 10:19)
74 - I think they would not consider that a better option. If they knew she works undercover for Eggman, hanging over the Emeralds are not the best choice.
158 - Fap fap?
“At that point you should call him an imposter”
He just predicted among us
Impostor is a normal word
Any character: "long time no see"
*Adds a point to the game sin counter*
+Bulba Soul Oh my... I JUST realized that. XD Totally intentional.
Wait There is one sin you missed. In 8:20, If you pause, You can see that there is a glitch with Amy's eyes....she has two pupils in one eye....wtf...
Can you do Luigi's mansion?
Do Sonic 06, not for the glitches, that would take 3 separate videos
XD OH KNUCKLES JUST ACTIVATED THE MOON JUMP CODE
Can you please do an everything wrong with conkers bad fur day
15:15 as a line from the Snapcube Hero Story Real Time Fandub goes, "WHAT!? WHAT!? WH-WHY IS NASA THERE!?"
"IM SO CONFUSED!!!"
1 Sin should be: "Broken Subtitles" Just saying
TheLPNiklas COMIC SANS
aaaaaaaand?
Emulator issue.
This was my favorite game when I was younger and my first GameCube game alongside Animal Crossing. Played it again recently in 2014. Never gets old to me.
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my opinion to how funny those parts were.
25:10
Your profile pic is so cute!
Sonic yelled kuu which is moon in Estonian and Finnish.
*"Kuu~"*
Universal Cerberus Kuu is actually "month" in Estonian
However, it does mean moon in Finnish.
@@AzaleusMSM this explains a lot in the warriors terminology. they do call months moons
@@daybreaklol wth is this ulukai bs?
Sonic survived because he has more experience with chaos emeralds.
See that a possible theory hope they don't ruin it
semaseri x Well.. in the reveal of this game Shadow was called... Evil Sonic!
that would make alot more sense
+3rd Way no he's not remember sonic 3 and knuckles
3:53 The “What?” scene is my favorite because I saw an edit where Shadow says “I’m making f*cking mac and cheese, and no one can stop me!” while the chaos emeralds is replaced by a box of Kraft mac and cheese, and it is the funniest thing ever.
Chariii5: Discount Coca-Cola
Sonic: What?
Sonic's head turned so perfectly when he said " that's racist"
The only thing wrong about this game is the fact that the music drowns out the dialogue
SmearyPage 10 months late, but this has to be said. That is DEFINITELY not the only thing wrong with this game. This game was awful in almost every aspect it presented. And people only like it for nostalgia reasons. Any other reason other than legitimately liking a terrible game is just moot.
I genuinely like the Adventure games, yet not for nostalgia reasons. I just find it fun, even with its issues.
which is only a problem in the English versions of the game, the sound mixing is just fine in the Japanese version (They made the cutscenes, the team in San Francisco made the gameplay)
yeah you have a point but it was the second good 3d sonic game in the series. They wanted to get some stuff across. I sure they didn't do this on purpose
Besides the dated graphics
i only bought the game back then for the chao. that was it
I bought this piece of shit a mouth ago for Da chaos to
Buba saaame I just got it a few weeks ago for the chao
._.
6:21 hahahahahahahahahaa you fool I have 70 alternate accounts