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- Sometimes a product exists because of a problem... how about we fix the problem instead of creating more cost to combat it?
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In case no one has warned you yet Jay, that glow in the dark filament will rapidly erode the nozzle on your printer if it's a standard brass or even worse copper. Hardened steel will last longer with it. Glow in the dark is VERY abrasive. Keep an eye on the nozzle (keep a spare new nozzle to check against), both the tip and the hole.
@suspicionofdeceit costs less in the long run to get a “heavy duty” nozzle then to keep replaces them every few weeks with a cheap one plus it really sucks for them to not work ruin a build or you don’t have a replacement nozzle and have to wait to get one
Learn from our mistakes
It should come with every card for free, what a bunch of bs
@suspicionofdeceit Jay's new to this and just how fast GITD filament will destroy a nozzle can come as a surprise even if you know it's abrasive compared to almost every other filament. Don't know if Jay is aware of it or not.
TBH i doute Jay reads comments for the Maker commuinty. there is one point he missed ...PLA is not the filament i woud go with. It Cheap but due to it's glass temp being near 60 C it could melt and be more bad then good. I would use PETG or ABS. PETG and ABS have a higher glass temp and would do a better job of standing up and would not break as easy too.
Why by a steel nozzle, when you can buy a ruby nozzle
I imagine it would also help if the card manufacturers extended the 2-slot cover to a 3-slot cover, since the card occupies three slots anyway.
Yep! I've always wanted wondered why these 3-4 slot cards still only have 2 slots.. gimme more ports while they're at it too haha, 2/8 slots being used on my case :p
This is a classic problem of companies creating an issue (ie GPU sag) and then selling a fix for it (ie a anti-sag bracket), when they could so easily build the extra reinforcement required into the card. Corporate greed at its finest 👍
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Especially since they essentially cut out that piece to shape the bracket anyway so they could have just left in more material and they'd operate at a less of a material loss.
Gotta love how the people that come up with these brackets don't take into account people who populate their other PCI slots.
I think the point is that with most PCI cards you should be able to install them first and then put this support bracket over them?
Ikr? Its my constant issue with these Companies. It drives me nutz...!
There are plenty of solutions that don't cover the slots, for the very minimal number of people that have more than the graphics card.
I don’t actually have an issue with this. If you’re never gonna have another card populating the other pcie slots, this product will cover up any wiring and empty slots at the bottom of the case. I definitely understand that it’s a very niche use case, but there are some that may be able to benefit from this. HOWEVER, price is a huge factor, and at $99, it’s way to expensive for a piece of acrylic and metal that light up.
Reminds me of something Apple published at the cost of a computer that was meant to do something similar as this but to the monitor..... 😂
@@hazel-vf7on The famous $999.99 monitor stand.
can easily find them that are less tacky looking and like $15-25 i have an EZ brand one from amazon works perfectly for my case
@@hazel-vf7on you mean like they don't give you a charger anymore either and force you to purchase one?
@@khaoticpenguin3945 Well not including chargers with every new device does make a lot of sense. Given how often people replace their devices, especially phones, it's very likely that they already own at least one charger, if not multiple ones. Excluding them from packaging saves most customers the cost of a charger that they already have, and it means one less electronic device that will end up as e-waste at the end of its life.
I don't know how Apple does it since they always do their own thing, but I'd be surprised if the charging port changes with every new iPhone. As far as I know they've been using lightning for a while. As for other brands, almost all of them use either micro-USB or USB-C for charging, both of which are so ubiquitous that most people already own many cables, and probably a few charging bricks.
Finally, even if you don't own a charger and have to buy one separately, it's not gonna cost you much more than if it was included with your device, because the price of the bundle would include the price of the charger.
Bad business idea: fixing it costs US money, selling them a fix costs THEM money - win for the card maker!!!! I still remember people having pride in their work!
The reasoning of that doesn't even make sense. A fix would cost like 1 dollar per card, which is irrelevant in the 200+ dollar price range. The problem isn't greed, they just don't care enough.
Never attribute to greed what you can attribute to incompetence
@@Reac2 They can save $1 (probably less) per card while at the same time making MORE money by selling an accessory. They know exactly what they're doing.
@@Hypnodog_ Yeah, I'm sure they did nothing for 10 years and just pushed out a fix now because reasons.
@@Reac2 It’s not about how much money they’re saving, it’s about having the ability to sell the customer a fix.
They won't change the design and tooling for the cards they're making for years. By the way, the margins on the cards is so low to AIBs that they resort to do stupid things like selling triple fans 3060s just to increase their margins.
If you 3dprint that bracket standing up instead of flat on the bed that'll also help with the "cracking youre getting" Its splitting on the layer lines so if you were to print it in a different orientation that would help that issue quite a bit. :)
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Takes quite a bit longer to print but yes. Or you can even print while they are at an angle 30-45 degrees.
@@thanos3814 to be honest, I'd argue that something that has that many emoji on it is usually fraudulent
@@tomppeli. He doesn't even use the official account😂
I think the word your looking for is "Cash Grab", they create the problem and then provide a solution for extra monetary compensation. Super happy to see you doing stuff with the 3d printer, can't wait for you to do more and maybe some 3d slicer tutorials and what not once your comfortable enough with the process.
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@@neosmith80 I think you could go outside and get some fresh air, You must be up late at night fixing everyones typos on the interwebz
@@neosmith80 tri ficsing mi taypos
Like apple with the lightning to 3.5mm adapter
I love how he can't bring himself to say "This is shit, don't buy, it's pointless and a money-grab"
Just goes to show how much they rely on brands to keep their business going. And how little criticism they can push out...
Instead of flatout saying "don't buy", he just goes around in circles to not call out bullshit
And this is one of the reasons why I use a horizontal cube case, I can see the face of the card without having to deal with sag and weird fixes and it can be even easier to maintain as I can take the whole mobo assembly out with a few screws
Same here. Rocking a Thermaltake core v21 and i love it
i have a inverted case, and this kind of dont create sag (because the pcb is now the stress holder and it is attached to the case i guess)
In the case of some of those cards, the PLA spacer appears to be in direct contact with a heatpipe. While one of those heatpipes will never reach nozzle temperature where PLA melts, it could potentially achieve the bed temp under load (depending on what that heatpipe goes to). This could cause the part to warp, or the heatpipe to embed in the part. This probably wouldn't be an issue on all cards, but could be for some. This could obviously be fixed by using a more temperature resistant plastic, or metal like you showed before with the case brackets. Great video!
I think there is room for a v3 design, where you cut the center out of a case bracket, and use it as a frame. Then make different thicknesses of plexi shims and edge light them. You could even laser etch logos or your name on the plexi for a custom illuminated label visible from the back of the case.
Nylon shims from home hardware store or even trim a piece of wood ?
Could print in PETG which has higher thermal limit and still easily printed on standard 3d printers and thats before getting into weird and wonderful exotic filaments :D
I might be okay with paying $10 or $15 for that off Amazon, given the lighting and "brand customization" that it comes with. $99 made me genuinely laugh as soon as my brain had time to verify that was really what was said.
Not being very interested in aesthetics I opted to daisy chain some zip ties to the top of my case and the bottom one just barely slides around the 8pin with the perfect amount of tension.
It's hobo but it works 🤷
I got a similar bracket off of amazon last week for $8. Granted it doesn't have rgb but it's also not $40 for the corsair one or worse $99 for this asus one.
Its ridiculous even if it were 2 dollars. Even if it came with the card for no extra money.
@@GhostShip94 I dunno, I wouldn't mind having it for my setup.
Asus tax bro
Jay: "Fix your GPU sag by using the PC slot covers."
Asus: "Holdera my Beer?!?!"
Holdera LMAOO
When he read that on the box I was thinking it was a knock off
just cut a pencil
@@NCXDesigns its spanish
Holdera is the new Asus Warzone map
What would be great if we as a community could compile the spacing size for each variation of card into one big spreadsheet so that we don't need to guess when trying to source and order the prints online.
Also cases and shops that will make em for us
Or just get an EVGA card
I use a stand thing I got from Amazon. It's just a metal cylinder thing with a top you can screw in to shorten or out to lengthen. It was like $10 or something. No complaints thus far, I've moved my PC around my desk while cleaning and it didn't fall over or anything. So it's doing its job well.
I love your solution, but please be careful putting pla directly up against the heatpipes, pla starts to get soft at ~60°C and depending on the gpu, cooler and case i don’t doubt that the heatpipe can reach that.
Supporting the shroud should ofc be just fine.
I was thinking the same thing. I love the 3d printed supporting "shunt" in idea but wonder if the shunt would melt from the heat. Actually I should change "wonder" to "expect".
@@phillipgerringer9822 If it's just against the shroud it really shouldn't, but directly against the heatpipe on hotter cards like (probably) 3080 upwards i'd seriously get worried about it starting to melt
@@phillipgerringer9822 I mean the idea is still sound, just PLA is a bad material choice for long term use here. There are filaments that have way higher melting points he could use for this instead that would solve this issue.
@@Mad-Lad-Chad That makes sense. I don't know much about filament except for what I've seen about people having problems making things that end up melting. Is there a filament that has a melting point that would exceed a GPU heat pipe? If there is then it seems this fix would be perfect for all situations.
@@phillipgerringer9822 I'm far from an expert (I'm a beginner, just have recently been diggin' into filament types) but ABS filament should work well.
Nothing is as easy to work with as PLA, since the low melting point is what makes PLA so easy to work with. ABS doesn't even begin to soften until 105 Celsius and doesn't melt until 220 - 230 Celsius. It can be printed on standard home 3d printers, though is a little more finicky and so requires a little more experience. But not much. It's a standard filament that is incredibly common to use.
Hey Jay what about making those edges and selling them on your mech store? I’d gladly buy an assortment of different thicknesses from you instead of supporting the GPU manufacturer by buying their support for a product they decided to design incorrectly.
Yes, no, maybe so?
i'll pay $20 if it has RGB.
@@ZeroB4NG I'll pay $30 if it doesn't!
@@reed-young ...one question that bugs me the entire time, Amazon now owns Stargate, does that make you an Amazon employee?
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What "entire time" do you mean, Zero?
It's cracking on a layer line. Printing that thicker may help, but I'd rotate it 90 degrees in the slicer (so it looks like the letter " L " if you look straight down on it on the build plate,) and print it like that. That will for sure solve the cracking problem. Turning up the hot end temperature a couple degrees might also help with layer adhesion, but that looks like a decent print. It's worth experimenting a bit, but first thing I'd try is to rotate it.
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The Lian Li Gb-001 is an interesting solution as it mounts to the motherboard stand offs and hides behind the video card.
And it is all metal. Too bad that kind of solution doesn't come with motherboards these days.
It’s also not $99
@@angelicsailor1st 99 DOLLARS?! I was looking at it for a second to hide my hard drive mount that's in an expansion slot, but that's like a 40 dollar at most deal, holy bajeezus.
E: I have the GB001 and am using it, and I would probably use it alongside this for extra support
@@jonathanstevens7004 A freaking case fan costs $10 on average, if not less.
@@Jay_the_Caffeinator The Fractal Torrent Compact (and I assume the Torrent as well) come with an anti-sag bracket.
The bracket I got for my 3070 ft3 ultra was just a piece of aluminum that screwed in to the case on the gpu mount. No RGB or access blocking acrylic, just a piece of metal.
My favourite anti sag thing is the Lian Li GB-001, that screws into the motherboard standoffs and holds the GPU up from behind, Like it because once the GPU is in you can't even see the bracket as it's between the GPU and the MoBo.
And its only like £10 as it's just a small piece of metal and a few screws
My motherboard has a heatspreader for the m.2 slot located on top of where the standoff is. Wish I could have taken advantage of this
Classic case of: Create a Problem, sell the solution
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Isn't this assuming that your PCI-E slots puts the card with exactly three expansion slots below it? What if I only have 2, or if I have 5 slots? Either way, potentially losing access to three expansion slots to do this makes this a bit of a nonstarter. That it costs $99 is crazy.
The real point is that card manufacturers could just fix the problem by reinforcing the brackets against the coolers.
@@rfrbz1269 more money to be made in creating a fix for their intentional bad design
already 5 seconds in and I'm having a mild panic attack moving the GPU like that lol
Right??? Rip pci-e slot
I don't think it is going to break the PCI slot instantaneously, but indeed it is not a good habit to show to less experienced viewers lol
I just resorted to tying a thin, black string around the power cables and then it goes up to the top of the case. I forget it's even there, it's so unnoticeable, and it basically cost nothing.
7.03 "this feels..." this feels like companies asked, how can we make the consumer pay for our mistakes? Instead of fixing the issues, they create another product for use to buy and fix the problem they caused.
I think this is brilliant. You should sell like a 4 pack with different sizes. Great video.
The files will be on the merch page for $5... FTW ( For The Win ... of course)
They could fix the sag, but instead they sell you a 100$ plastic holder...
Pretty soon cards will come with a little kickstand that folds out like a motorcycle.
Honestly your take on how to fix GPU sag is 100% better in both functionality and aesthetically better!
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Let's be real. this product is designed for the people who have more money than they have sense. People who have 3090 Strix cards (Myself included) are likely not too worried about a $100 price tag on something that's optional. It likely won't sell that many, but I can see how it'd be useful for some specific builds
As long as you have a solid card with good support and the case doesn't suck, and the card's backplate is solid, you don't need something like this
@@mikerzisu9508 this is not a need. It’s a want. An extra touch of ROG and I love it! 😆
@@frankspace34 I love it and hate it at the same time. It is big and excessive, but I do like the rog logo. If they made it in white I would consider getting it for my all white build
Seems more legit, than the "E-leach" holder with the 3090Ti . Thanks for the convenient fix idea with the multiple slots. That's why I love this channel. Cheers Jay.
I used one, directely disurbing the good "laminar" airflow, GPU temps 7 deg C jumped up. Than I take the sakking!
So does that mean, we'll have JTC branded GPU bracket supports in the future?
I'd buy one, it would look great.
I recently built a PC for my sister-in-law, and used your cover bracket stacking technique. As you mentioned, screwing them back in was impossible, so i cuit the L shapes off the end and electrical tape'd 2 extra cut ones to 1 normal. It was enough tick to support a TUF 3060 and the sag was gone!
It's very sad that these expensive GPUs are not built as well as they were two generations back.
@@wayland7150 my all-white asus dual 1070 oc even has gpu sag- and it's a twin fan cooler! this issue is the endpoint of the current era of gpu air cooler design
@@salmon_wine In those days they at least tried. The cards Jay was showing had the same physical strength as a network card.
@@wayland7150 I have this card in my personal gaming rig and it actually feels a lot sturdier than my ROG Strix RX 570 OC
@@wayland7150 then again... Asus ain't exactly kind to their AMD GPUs
Why not a wood dowel cut to size to support the card from underneath on the right side instead? You can color it to match the case color theme.
They sell an adjustable 'acro jack' for lots of money like that.
Or I heard for free get a stick, cut to length. Trouble is when I looked I just could not find a fully adjustable RGB stick in any popular online store. These so called 'sticks' are just a myth.
I bought an adjustable support post to put under the sagging corner for $8 on Amazon. Post is black, case is black, glass side panel is tinted, so it looks like it belongs there. It came with a red spacer if I needed it, which would have been fine since my MoBo has red accents anyway.
I remember one of your older anti gpu sag vids titled: How to fix video card sag FOR FREE! back in December 2017, it's a different method, using screws behind the motherboard tray and focusing on the top most finger of the gpu i/o plate.
I guess not all cases nowadays have access to that slit so this newer alternative using the shims may be more applicable to more people.
Not crazy about the idea of introducing a lateral load to the cooler that it's not meant to support by jamming shims in there.
The main issue is that the cards are getting longer and heavier, and the architecture they're plugging into was never designed to handle that sort of weight. It's a flat plane supported on two (more like 1 and 1/2) adjacent sides. It can't help but to sag unless you support the opposite corner. Stacking spacers under the rear case mount doesn't fix the sag, it just 'pre cocks' the board so it doesn't visually look like it's sagging when the case is standing up.
exactly. This is why the slot-bracket design is very ineffective versus the free standing gpu sag bracket which by far fixes the issue best. I paid $20 for a vertical argb gpu bracket from vetroo- and it's good enough at it's job that i initially had it set too high, and was bending the card in the opposite direction as the sag!
I don't think that's introducing a lateral load to the cooler by jamming shims in there. That lateral load already exists and the shims just slightly change the angle of it (by making the card perpendicular to the motherboard, instead of it sagging in a corner). So, as long as your case isn't being moved around, this would be fine since it removes the bend from the PCIe connector, which seems to be the most important part of removing sag (the metal reinforced PCIe connectors are definitely strong enough to handle this). Either way, I still have a metal bracket that supports the far corner of my 3080 from sagging, but I wouldn't be opposed to this solution.
This is awesome. I was actually thinking of making some printing prototypes and asking a friend to print them for a custom hard drive cage. I've expanded to the point where my little mid-tower is too small for all the crap I have running through it. Already have a network card running in my last slot and my 2nd will eventually have another gpu so I can do some pass through on Linux. I am lucky with the bracket on my 2070 because I don't seem to have any sag, but if I had to solve that issue then the massive wing wouldn't work with my setup anyway. I love these DIY fixes.
I like my gpu support bracket from Lian li. It just screws into two of the motherboard standoffs and has a little adjustable shelf. Works great, and barely noticeable.
I have it with 3080 aorus and it still sags a little
That works great... unless your motherboard armor covers up one of the holes you'd use for it. Thanks X570 Dark Hero + O11 D XL!
Shouldn't exist is the issue....
If you want a clever implementation of a GPU support, i recommend taking a look at "RTX 3080 Ti Vulcan OC-V"; I have one and i must say, it hold up quite well (it is a heavy card) and it's very simple to install/remove while also not blocking anything nor requiring any extra mount in the back (evenly distributes the weight of the card).
I route the PCI-E power cables above the card and taught so that it's helping to pull the card up, and I also think it looks better that way.
Up here has a magnetic support bar that is by far the best idea I've found. I've put this bracket in 3 different builds so I far
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I had got an arm like that one for my Asus 1080 TI and like a week later it slipped and broke 2 blades off the 3rd fan. Found out that a Bic lighter makes a much better GPU stand and it looks better.
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That is one thing I really like about AMD's 6000 series reference cards, they dont sag.
There is an even simpler solution to grphics card sagging: buy a case where the motherboard is installed horizontally.
I have a Cooler Master HAF XB EVO for some years now, and its working just fine.
I do have to admit that i have one, but not this exact one. It was $25, its made by cooler master, and it isn't ridiculously branded. Its also alot slimmer, cleaner, and doesn't block access to everything at the bottom.
I can see this as a viable way to fill out a larger case. If you have a mid tower case and an ITX or mini ATX board, that bar would be an alright option (a better option if it were around $50)
People like you are why our industries are going to shit.
STOP PICKING AT IT!!
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I avoided this by getting a vertical mount for my p400a case cause it was much cheaper and better looking than any of the budget braces.
my next pc im definitely doing vertical mount. but id also put it 90 degrees off next to the motherboard so you can see the chungus in all its glory
@@bradhaines3142 Or.. just get a case that doesn't have everything vertical like that, my case which is the best IMO, my MOBO sits nice and FLAT, like my desk, stupid design having boards sit the way they do
@@fastfed what case is that
Same. Bye sag.
If you're looking 3d hubs was where I purchased replacement L/R slider parts for my Beyerdynamic DT770's years ago. Worked out perfectly, back then you just upload, and select from people's stores, I picked somewhere nearly local so shipping was fast. $18 compared to the $40-45 shipped for Beyerdynamic's craptastic cracks in 1 year junk....literally found 3-4 models online because it's such a huge issue with those specific parts. Also since it was so small and I asked about plastics, they threw in some extras in a more flexible plastic to try out.
I bought something similar from UpHere and I didn't buy it to hold up the Graphics card. I bought it so I could cover up the fact that my Mobo was microATX in an ATX case.
I've seen this wingwall GPU holder go for 75 EUR here so it should come in at around 80 USD including taxes, probably cheaper as US sales tax is lower I think.
Still a lot of money but I guess people who buy this product are also getting it for the aesthetic and RGB. Funnily enough, my current RTX 3080 phantom has barely any sag (at least not noticeable by eye) and even my old Asus strix 1070 TI had quite some sag.
Still, the one from Cooler Master is like 35 bucks on Amazon. And it's vertical so you can put it on the end of the GPU, which lets you show off your additional expansion cards that Jay talked about if you want to or, given that I'm pretty sure it's a Corsair case, mount SATA SSDs on top of the PSU cage if you have a lot of lighting/fan controllers behind the motherboard tray and can't use the mounting options there.
not to mention the person who has a functional use for this on top of its aesthetic, can afford it as it helps HEAVY expensive cards
It exists purely to hurt your feelings.
06:40 got me thinking you were saying "wort wort wort".
Maybe this is a solution for people who already bought Strix cards that are suffering from dreaded GPU sag and Asus is like "here fren. Take dis. That'll be $100 btw"
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Be very careful with 3d printed stuff and GPUs. Those heatpipes can get really hot. You would need stuff that can handle the heat.
To add on to this: PLA will deform in a hot car (know from personal experience). I've switched to PETG seems to handle it better, but I don't have Florida/Texas heat.
16:24 another thing you can do in many places is go through your local library. I know at least where I live (I am in Canada, but I have to imagine they would do the same at libraries in the US), you can go to the local library and have them 3D print things for just the cost of the material. May have to wait a couple of days, but still, worth checking out if your local library offers that.
Super excited to see more printing, and your excitement. Link the stl, and know that most local libraries offer 3d printing services as well.
I'd assume you could lay the case on it's back, then install the GPU support on top of the backplane covers instead of removing them.
U can yes.
The rog one looks really cool I think. I could see myself using it purely for aesthetics if it cost like maybe 25 - 30 dollars tops. But that price is way off mark.
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Lian Li has a Gpu support that they include in the box with the o11 Evo. It mounts to the motherboard and works amazingly, you can also pick it up as a stand alone part
Lian li GB 001 ?
Works good with lian li cases, works with my lancool mesh 2 RGB, doesn't work though, with a corsair case cause of the included standoff screw threads being too thin to go inside the standoffs on corsair case
And i think the Lian Li option is $20 or less.
@@lagpi oh yea never thought about that issue, but if you have a case it works in. It's great and far better then most of these over priced gpu support bracket/stands lol
I have a stand that goes from the bottom of my case to the card. The nice thing is the stand is setup right in the same spot as the power connectors on the card so the cables are routed behind it.
Even using the free extra expansion slot covers.
1: Find out however many you need to prop the card.
2: Cut the screw tabs off all but one. Recommend taking a file afterwards to smooth the cut ends.
3: Super-glue/epoxy them all together with the tab being the "bottom"-most one.
4: Paint the thing so you don't have bare metal edges showing. Unless they're stainless/chromed.
I'll admit this is a champagne problem but...
I think this fixes the sag issue but it also fixes the empty space in a case issue and of course with an RGB.
$100 is excessive and I think $50 is a better price.
Yeah, this could actually be useful if you have a small mini-ITX or micro-ATX motherboard in an ATX case. It could hide the empty space below the motherboard.
There are cheaper brackets, ROG is just a brand.
A figurine is way more aesthetically pleasing and works better
I got my Aorus GPU holder for US$15. aRGB and everything.
You are the only pc youtubers I trust anymore! The only one to tell us the equipment we have just because something new comes out doesn't make ours bad. You aren't all about oh wait wait make sure you buy the 4000 as nothing else is good! It's literally like every youtuber doesn't even realize what they are doing. Thank god we have channels like yours!
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My "founders" Radeon 6800xt sits perfectly perpendicular in the case. Zero brackets. Why? The card is rigid all the way around.
Jay is 100% right that this issue is only a thing because AIBs are skipping some extremely important steps when designing the whole of a card.
I use a thin piece of aluminium tube as a leg supporting the right hand outer corner, works a treat and looks pretty good as well.
Change your print orientation instead. Print this on edge instead of flat. Then the layers will be horizontal and thus giving you more strength. Also, walls above infill.
"Doesn't this feel a little extra?" says the man that builds in gigantic cases with custom loops, a display for temps and fps and got a 3d printer to mod his case even more and has 2 custom painted Star wars themed modded pcs
I mean if he says it after all that then yea ..
It's amazing how something as simple as a reverse bracket could fix the problem, but RGB!!!. A company could fix the problem but I think a fear is that something so cheap wouldn't sell as much. I would buy that for any card that sagged and I have no intention of buying a strix card or any card over $330 and I'd rather not have to spend that much for a new gpu. My current card sags, but it's only not noticeable because it doesn't have a beefy cooler on it, and it's about seven years old.
he's a fraud
Also, if you rotate the model in slicing, you can avoid some of the separation issue by making the layer lines be along the length of the part instead of at the stress point (in this case, the angle).
Thin wood dowel. Colour it black with a felt pen. Place it between the card and the power supply enclosure. No more card sag, works perfect on my 3070 ti OC
I've got myself a Lian Li holder, it was 12,55€ and you can't really see it because it's sitting between the motherboard and the GPU. Mind your I/O that's between the standoffs (middle right and bottom right in a normal orientation), if the connector sticks out perpendicular to the motherboard plane, you won't be able to use it. So there is a way between the (almost) for-free and the really expensive and over-the-top solutuons like ROG bar.
“What’s your game” - the catch phrase so nice they said it twice
one of your best recent videos, keep the printing stuff coming. custom shit is awesome.
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One thing I find that helps with keeping clear acrylic, well, clear: put on a coat of automotive ceramic spray wax. It'll last for a while, especially in an indoor environment, gives great protection against light scratches, easy as hell to clean (water beads and slides right off), prevents dust from sticking, and it makes the surface super clear and super slick to the touch. They are relatively affordable and easy to apply as well. And they are safe on all surfaces, be it metal, plastic, rubber, glass, and silicon. I would still be wary of spraying directly onto any electronics, though.
I personally use Turtle Wax's Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Wax. I really love their tropical mango smell. I also tried out Meguiar's Ceramic Spray Wax. It's ok but the cotton candy sweet smell tends to be quite strong for me and the milky consistency makes it more prone to leaving a residue behind. You can still wipe it off with a damp microfiber towel but it can get rather annoying trying to chase them down.
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If you were to rotate it 90 degrees, it would be stronger at that point you mentioned it broke multiple times, but you would want to make sure that the thicknesses are a multiple of your nozzle diameter for the best print. For example, if you are using a .4mm nozzle, you could have one that is 3.6mm, 4mm, or 4.4mm thick for the best print.
Just got a XTX 7900 XT, it both had a full bracket and came with it's own support bracket. Very cool
Bought PNY Revel Epic-x XLR8 3070ti and it's rock stiff. I do not expect any sag issue over time. Top is made of solid aluminum plate.
Glad you (sort of) acknowledged the price of the printer as well as the material.
I have no issue with 3d printing as a hobby, or as a talking point for content etc. but I think some people genuinely think 3d printing is a cost effective solution to minor issues like this bracket or a doorstop or some other small item you would only ever need 1 or 2 of
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This is one of the coolest idea you came up with! It's cheep, invisible and costs only a few cents. Excellent work!
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The price of that thing is crazy, I paid 15 money units for the Deepcool ST500 ARGB that has way more adjustment, only takes up 2.X slots and holds more securely.
I don’t use a bracket, I have a column that I turned myself from brass and it holds the gpu on the edge. Looks very premium and clean.
If you do like me you will get better temps because a bracket will block the airflow of the gpu fans.
put my old 970 strix into my GFs computer and discovered it had really bad sag, so I machined a small aluminum rod and put sorbothane pads on both ends to reduce vibrations. The machined aluminum looks really nice, nicer than expected, with her RGB. Only problem now is she can't add any expansion cards.
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I just bought a cheap (think it was 6$) 3 piece metal assembly (2 rods 1 magnetic bottom part) with 2 adjustable screwable rubberized "holding" brackets on it and it works perfectly fine since.
🤔 I'd consider it if I had a different case. Only reason being is because the whole point of my PC is overly excessive for a gaming rig in a semi and it would potentially help stop the card from moving and destroying yet another pcie slot.
You also might be able to put a set screw through one of the brackets and hold it in place with a couple of jam nuts (kind of the same way you'd set the idle on a throttle body).
I've got a vertical pole thing with a magnet base and grips that slide up and down on it that supports mine. No slot-blocking, infinite height adjustment and fit.
It's called an upHere GPU Support.
Nice, but perhaps you could use the original riser plates (what are they called?) and place a thin metal sheet, or wood on to it (really, use could use anything that isn't brittle).
Then drill one or two small holes through and screw the spacer on to the riser plate. No need for a 3D printer, which most people don't have. Real simple, but I'll allow, not necessarily pretty, which in my instance I don't care about.... my case isn't see through and I'm not interested in internal bling.
Since I didn't have access to a 3d printer and I'm not about to buy something to fix a problem that should not have existed in the first place, I used a piece of 4mm foam core, which I cut to the specs and placed it properly. The idea came to me, after I've seen Jay's first video on this matter. Since I don't move the computer around, it holds in place without the need to being screwed, the weight of the GPU is more than enough to do that. Not to say, that it's extremely cheap and it offers more than enough strength for support.
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Someone out there will appreciate the additional RGB. And the more enclosed shroud may even help suction from the fans even further. It's just nice to see options for everyones preferences. I can tell you now the misses would love to have that under her 3080 for additional RGB for a sag fix. All in all thanks Jay for giving a new alternative to an underlying problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place.
I prefer the vertical rods that support the right side of the card from the bottom of the case, rather than something impractical like this that tries to extend from the left side, blocks access, and blocks airflow.
This is such a simple fix. It would be so easy for manufacturers to fix this engineering flaw. I love your videos like this.
Amazon has GPU spacers available for as little as $9 and it works great. Has a soft cushion for the card itself and a magnetic base to help keep it in place.
Yeah I’m confused. Obviously Jay has a more elegant solution if it’s refined, but why did he not mention those options? Are they bad/dangerous? Seems like the same idea as this $99 one except less fun (unless you get the ones that are like a little Pikachu holding it up or whatever)
pretty sure it's been suggested but maybe you should solve the snapping problem and then sell them. naturally $0.03 is a wee bit too cheap to bother shipping it so you should make a 10-pack (or 20) of various sizes. sell it for $10+ shipping. worst case they can also just be used as filler bits for when people inevitably lose those things from their case or like you showed they can be used as accent color inserts.
$99 is insane, I hope nobody pays that much for it...$25 tops....and I'd still wait for it to be on sale for less.
Yes! Jay, I want a set in different sizes with JTC logo on it...will show thru the back of the case!!!
I bought a little pillar that you put under the corner of the graphics card to keep it from sagging, pure chrome , fully adjustable and doesn't take a lot of room. $10 and works great
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Simple fix: Cut a stick to the right length and put it under the sagging end of the GPU to hold it up. Zero cost.
Other than using PLA on a location that might become a lot warmer than like 40-50 degree C, Jay's solution is 100 times better than what manufacturers come with. And should also cost next to nothing if they just fixed the issue in their designs to begin with.
Like building a car with a big Dodge Demon engine, and then use a drift shaft from a 90 HP civic and then wonder why things break.
I went from an Asus phoenix 3060v2 (single fan, small form factor) to an Evga 3080 ftw3 and this video helped so much, that card is a behemoth in comparison strangely enough the small 1/2 sized 3060 had excellent support at the rear as well as the side where it has a spot to attach directly to the board even though it is perfect at the back and not heavy enough to sag in the 1st place, wish all cards were like that or at least offered a version of it.
Excellent video, Jay, very informative. Thanks.
Hope you using hardened nozzles on your printers for the glow in the dark filament. That stuff is abrasive and eats through regular brass nozzles over time