Ford F150 Recirc/Fresh Air Door Repair - WITHOUT Removing the Dash!!

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • Today we're fixing a Ford F-150 Recirc/Fresh Air Door, WITHOUT removing the dash! This happens on tons of F-150s and Raptors, we believe it affects 2009-2014, sometimes to trucks with as few as 25,000 miles on them. The dealership will tell you that you have to pull the dash and remove the evaporator, necessitating a a/c service and taking over 10 hours to complete. The estimate we got from our local dealership was $1700. But we figured out how to fix it ourselves, WITHOUT REMOVING THE DASH! For only the cost of the new fresh air door! Not only will this video save you 7+ hours of time, it means you don't have to pull the dash and worry about breaking parts taking it all our or adding rattles when putting it back in. This is a great solution, and we bet even Ford dealership techs are going to start doing it this way! This is another Motors and Mischief World's First! So grab something delicious to drink, sit back, relax, and watch Uncle Jake show you how to save a ton of time and money fixing your Ford F0150 / Raptor recirc/Fresh air door repair - without removing the dash!!
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    For you guys who need it, Ford's part number is DL3Z*19A618*A
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  • @PBlrmkr
    @PBlrmkr 2 года назад +42

    SUCCESS on a 2013 F150 Platinum! Thank you for being a pioneer, figuring this out, and posting an awesome video and fix! Had this exact problem on my 2013 F150 last week and happened on this video while researching repair options. Your suggested repair process only took me about 2.5 hours with the benefit of your video and having the right tools (completed today, 29OCT21). That flex screwdriver is indeed a necessity, but a good tool to have nonetheless (and cheap at Lowe's...$14).
    I followed your instructions exactly, with three exceptions.
    1. The upper cage flange in an F150 is indeed a stud with a nut and not a screw, so the flange just needed to be popped off the stud when trying to spread the cage open. Not a huge issue as the plastic is flexible enough to clear the stud, allowing the cage to be split up and open about 1". My foam was fine after the repair.
    2. I used strong magnetic tools for everything and made a string follower on the tip of the flex driver to yank it into a vertical position remotely, which is almost a necessity with my huge hands.
    3. When reinstalling the new door, I quickly dipped the anchor end (not the actuator end) halfway in hot tap water immediately prior to wedging it in to allow for some flexibility. This trick worked wonders and made reinstalling the door a non -issue. The actuator end was fed in first and placed mostly in its hole, the cage was spread, and the warmed anchor end was quickly popped into the housing, locating itself almost immediately while allowing the actuator end to seat in its hole as the door angle changed. I warmed one half of the door part because when I extracted the old broken door, I noticed a small stress crack up top due to the cold and brittle plastic being flexed heavily on removal. The door was moved back and forth to ensure proper seating and sealing, and the cage was buttoned back up (5 separate screws and the stud nut).
    Honestly, following your video, the 'hardest' part of all of this is getting the blend door actuator dismounted and re-mounted. I know you left the forward screw half seated on yours, but I had to remove my actuator entirely to get access to that difficult screw on the corner of the cage. Again, not much room there to maneuver.
    I would say that airbag removal is absolutely necessary for visibility to the repair as well as certain tool access. I could not have done this with the airbag in. Scariest part of this fix was messing with that airbag.
    Still cannot believe this all worked as well as it did. I also cannot believe the cost and effort to get this done the official Ford way.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +6

      WOW! What a great comment! Thanks so much for all the awesome info, that will for sure help others who are doing this. We're gonna pin this comment we like it so much. So glad the video helped and thanks for taking the time to comment and help the community!!

    • @alb12345672
      @alb12345672 2 года назад

      This is a 20yo problem. 95+ explorers broke the same way. It was the blend door though. Some guys rigged up a hand lever :lol:

    • @thaddeustroyer
      @thaddeustroyer Год назад

      I just saw this... ame problem 🙄 ugh! Anyway thanks for this video and your efforts. I was thinking that if you were not able to get the door back in and you quit right at that spot in the repair, your air would have been fre-cycled air. Ha!🤣

    • @RetiredEE
      @RetiredEE Год назад +1

      @@MotorsandMischief if there was only a way to add a cabin air filter and keep all the dust out of the inside of the truck!

    • @jlopez8639
      @jlopez8639 10 месяцев назад

      what is the name of that housing unit because the same thing happened to my truck. I need to change out that flapper.

  • @yoster77
    @yoster77 3 месяца назад +3

    SOOOO happy to find this video. Mine just broke about 5 minutes ago and I've been holding on to this video in my 'saved' youtube list for a rainy day. That day has come! I'll report back once fixed! I'm going to try the flapper from the Dorman version... we'll see if I regret that!
    I'll be fixing it after an upcoming RV trip. In the meantime, I dropped the motor, removed the piece, reached up and manually put it in recirculation mode. As long as no one farts, we'll be good.

  • @Firesun07
    @Firesun07 2 года назад +4

    Hello!! I wanted to say "Thank you" for the Video!! and for all that have commented with tips and tricks.. I tackled this little endeavor this afternoon on a 2013 Ford 150 LXT FX4.. I had all the tools out and ready and started at 230pm.. I finished at 530pm all tools put away!!
    Notes: I removed the Airbag, Glove box and all the rest below.. Removed the 4 housing screws 2 keeping it together and 2 holding it to the blower housing in the back.. I did not have to remove or loosen the one in the front.. I took the Motor off as well, and only loosen the front of the motor.
    A Flex and solid Shaft extensions are a must for this made it much more bearable to get in to the very tight spaces..
    I also used a Trim remover to wedge in between the housing to pry apart, then used a C clamp to hold the Trim tool in the open position.. This is when you will need to flex the flap a bit to get the old one out.. This is not EASY and will take some convincing.. Really.... Once you get the old one out then you know the new one can go in right!!! :)
    I used PBlmkr suggestion, I had HOT tap water not boiling.. and let the whole thing sit in the water for about 5 min.. Also note it was 70 degrees outside today so I would not try this in the Cold or with cold plastic as you are taking a big chance it will crack on you when you have to flex it a bit to get it back in..
    I was able to get the new one in by wiggling it and really maneuvering it into the housing.
    Once you have the new flap in place and it move freely.. you can put the 4 screws back in, then replace the Airbag. Once AB is reinstalled and back on the dash you can reconnect the Battery. Test your motor and make sure it is working. The motor is Keyed so it can only go into the flap one way so this will take a bit of maneuvering until it is in place.. Leave the engine running as this puts tension on the housing so you can put the back screw back in and tighten up the front.. This was the one mistake I made and turned off the engine and the Motor fell out and had to redo this step as the tension is released.
    If anyone has this problem... FORD quoted me $1800 there was no room for anything other than that amount.. The part was $135.. it took me 3 hr with this video!! I count that as a HUGE WIN!!!
    Again Thank you for posting this!!!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      Man what a great comment! Thanks so much for posting the details to help out other viewers and we're so happy the video was helpful! That's awesome you got it done so fast, nice job!!!

  • @alamoretrieverclub2773
    @alamoretrieverclub2773 2 года назад +5

    I fixed mine today (2010 F150) that was broken for about 2 years. I'm in South Texas, so the early summer heat finally made me get off my butt and fix it! I went the Southern Engineering way - took off the blower motor, rotated the door to recirculate, then fashioned a piece of 1/2" x 1/2" wood dowel to jamb the door in permanent recirculate. Down here, I run the AC about 10 months out of the year, the rest of the time it's heat or windows down. I don't mind recirculate 100% of the time.
    I cannot believe Ford has not engineered a better fix for the door, either a better plastic, a metal connector (that will not break over time), or some type of "stop" for the actuator motor to minimize stress on the door.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      Right? Someone else posted that they use the same system on Explorers and other vehicles and its been breaking these parts for a loooooong tome. What the heck Ford? Anyway, good job and thanks for commenting!

    • @Bluezhealer
      @Bluezhealer 11 месяцев назад

      I might do the same Corpus Christi TX SUMMERS are brutally hot 🥵

    • @kurts2650
      @kurts2650 29 дней назад

      This is my plan. Here in Phoenix, if we want outside air, we use the windows. Will tackle it this weekend.

  • @robertcourtney6913
    @robertcourtney6913 3 года назад +5

    This is a heck of a solution, really nice job! I had this happen at 40k miles and Ford did the fix. We'll charitably say the dealership wasn't as careful with making sure everything in the dash was carefully removed without breakage and reinstalling properly as I would have liked. I still have rattles years later that I haven't been able to track down without removing the dash again. This is a way better way to go because you wont get your dash all messed up. Thanks guys!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  3 года назад +1

      Aww man that sucks. Yeah we had another viewer tell us that his broke at 25k, but that left him in warranty so that was good. But still, you make a good point about the dash maybe not ever being the same. Thanks for commenting!

  • @dndsam
    @dndsam 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for figuring this out! I just installed mine on a 2104 F150 FX4. I found using a 105 Degree 1/4 Inch Right Angle Drill Adapter Hex Shank Screwdriver Angled Bit Holder(Amazon) in conjunction with the flex tool you used helped get the screws out(and back in) easier that hold the housing in place, especially the back one closest to the firewall. I appreciate your pioneering efforts!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing the tools that worked for you, that's a big help to everyone that attempts this! And thanks so much for taking the time to comment!

  • @markveblungsnes
    @markveblungsnes 8 дней назад

    Just did this repair! Thanks for the good video. Took about 3 hours. I didn't remove the airbag.

  • @moderngunguy3666
    @moderngunguy3666 3 месяца назад +9

    Just close the door permanently and you won't even need to replace it just close the door and have it recirculate permanently

    • @vandriver83
      @vandriver83 12 дней назад +1

      I’m watching this just to see how to access the door so I can do just that.

  • @bosenterfitt759
    @bosenterfitt759 Год назад +1

    Dude, you are awesome! Your endeavors helped me save a lot of money. My dealer quoted me over $2,000 a couple years ago for this repair. I didn't complete it as fast as you, it took me a little over 4hrs, but it's done and it's so nice to have the ability to prevent those outside smells again in bumper to bumper traffic. I pray I never have to do it again, it's still not a super fun job, even with your great instructions. 👍🏼 up from me!

  • @paulrothaar9586
    @paulrothaar9586 Год назад +1

    So glad you posted this. I just ran into this exact problem today on my 2013 lariat. I thought maybe a twig or something got into the blower motor and was making a sound. Took it apart and found that exact Broken actuator piece. Looks like I’ll be spending a few hours trying this out in the very near future.

  • @nelliott500
    @nelliott500 Год назад

    Just pulled this same broken part out of the blower housing today and hopped on RUclips to see what's involved. Seeing the amount of work required, I can live with it for a while. Right now it's too hot to be doing it. Thanks for the video!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      Glad it was helpful and we don't blame you lol. Thanks for commenting!

    • @mattstone9866
      @mattstone9866 6 месяцев назад

      In the meantime you can just affix the broken flap with a screw and leave it in re-circ all the time. Worked for me with basic tools. @MotorsandMischief video helped me out big time!

  • @kevinmillar741
    @kevinmillar741 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video! Very informative! Huge headache of a problem but got it fixed. The part cost me $145 from the Ford dealer so basically saved $1,500.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +1

      That's awesome! So glad it helped, thanks for commenting!

  • @knd266
    @knd266 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have the same problem and I'm going to attempt it this coming spring. I wish you showed how to take out the air bag since I've never messed with one before. Thanks for the rest of the information though, it will defiantly come in handy when I attempt to do this myself.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  9 месяцев назад +1

      We hear ya, airbags are tricky and they can blow up lol. Check out a more detailed description at 4:00 minutes in this video. ruclips.net/video/L5-lesrpeHI/видео.html&ab_channel=MotorsandMischief

  • @shaun5r
    @shaun5r 9 месяцев назад +1

    SUCCESS on a 2011 F-150 Raptor! (But wow, what a 4-day struggle in the driveway, but that's DIY-life)
    1. I found six air inlet housing mounting screws to remove, instead of four in the video. Damn you, Ford! I had to sit down for an hour (with the wifey) and spatially work out how to get to the last screw directly behind the inlet cage. It was not possible to get to it via a bendy wrench or a lot of extensions. The only way I could reach the screw in the back was with a small Kobalt ratcheting wrench I had in a mini-toolkit. (That little kit has proven to work wonders on many projects. I highly recommend it for tight spaces). Anyway, I managed to figure out I could reach up into the cage, through where the fan motor/squirrel cage are mounted and get to the rear screw that way. Friggin' Genius.
    2. I removed just about everything, Carpet, seats, passenger airbag, console, Sony amp, EVERYTHING! The only way I could successfully reach up into the housing correctly was lying across the center console with my feet to the driver's side so I could lie on my back and jam my right arm into the housing to get the damn screw out. That mini ratchet made it happen. It also got many other tightly-seated HVAC screws out. One side is 1/4" and the other side is 8mm... The larger 8mm side is perfect for this project.
    3. That screw in the back did not go back in, along with another pesky one. Four screws is enough... give me a break! After screwing down the mounting screws, it didn't move from rocking it back and forth. It's in there good!
    4. Magnetic tools recommended as well. They help for guiding screws back to their mounting holes upon assembly. (And also if you happen to drop a screw... or all of them)
    I managed to get this project done and the center console blend door actuator replaced (Thanks to YT channel: FordTechMakuloco)
    Thanks again for the great video and enthusiasm to get this baby fixed!
    -- Below is the Kobalt toolkit that has paid for itself at least 10 times by now.
    www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-35-Piece-Standard-SAE-and-Metric-Polished-Chrome-Mechanics-Tool-Set/3387640 $19.98 in FL

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  5 месяцев назад

      Way to not give up! Great info and tool link. We should all get a trophy for this one lol 🏆

  • @hugoknight1
    @hugoknight1 Год назад

    You are AWESOME for posting this SUPER informative video! Not many people would help the Ford community with the level of detail that you provided. Just yesterday I started hearing a noise in the fan of my 2003 F150 that sounds like something has fallen into it. Gonna pull the blower motor fan assembly out and see if that's what is happening. If so, I am saving your video for sure!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      Man great comment, thank you so much! Glad it was helpful!

  • @mikepalmiter5296
    @mikepalmiter5296 2 года назад

    Every Ford truck and Explorer we have ever owned has had this problem. Thanks for the video

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      That's good info, it helps show this problem is for sure rampant. Thanks so much for commenting!

  • @andycardana2375
    @andycardana2375 2 года назад

    Success for a 2006 Charger too. Thank you. This saved a lot of time by just repacing the actuator, and recerculation door. Tip, 10mm deep socket on the top nut. They used lock tight, making it tougher. Went back together very nicely. Again, thanks.

  • @TRADERnel
    @TRADERnel 2 года назад +1

    Man I'm going to hate doing mine but I'm glad I don't have to take the dash out thanks for the good video

  • @timwilliams2643
    @timwilliams2643 2 года назад +3

    Great video! I decided to give it a try yesterday on my F150. Unfortunately, I decided to stop and I wanted to share why so those of you considering this can decide for yourselves. Based on the good suggestions from the video, I didn't really have much trouble getting all the bolts and screws out using a flexible driver, 1/4" ratchet with u-joint, and a couple of other tools. In the video Uncle Jake commented you might want to take out the airbag and I would strongly recommend that you do as the visibility it provides is pretty important. So, why didn't I succeed? A couple of reasons.
    First, at the top of the plastic assembly (the assembly he purchased), there wasn't a screw holding it in place. Instead it was a metal bracket with a bolt welded onto it. The bolt stuck through the hole in the top of the plastic assembly. I tried to push the bolt through the hole in the plastic assembly by deflecting the metal bracket (flexing the metal bracket but, not permanently bending it) but, it stopped moving with probably 1/4" of the bolt not through the plastic assembly. I looked closer and saw that when I pushed the bolt through the hole, it hit against another part and stopped moving. So, why is this important? If you purchased the new assembly as I did, look at the bottom of it and notice the lip on the bottom. You have to push the unit up the height of this lip before you can begin prying it apart. So, back to the metal tab and bolt. The bolt wouldn't allow me to push up on the assembly. However, even if there wasn't a bolt welded to the metal bracket and it instead used a screw like all the others, the bracket itself would prevent the required vertical movement. It looked to me like you would have to bend the tab and twist it out of the way to allow the vertical movement. My truck is not a Raptor, so this might be different on the regular F150s.
    Back to the vertical movement necessary to allow you to begin prying open the plastic assembly. You can only move 1/2 of the plastic assembly as described in the video - basically opening it like a clamshell. The other half of the assembly is still bolted/screwed in and won’t move. Also, keep in mind that the back of the assembly is still screwed in. So, if you are able to achieve the vertical movement to free the front of the clamshell to pry it open, the lip on backside of the clamshell will still be in the piece below. So, when you pry it open, it looks like you’ll be prying it open against the lip at the back.
    Finally, you have pry the clamshell open a fair amount. I didn’t measure how much I had to open the new assembly to remove the flap however, it was probably 1 1/2”. I tore the foam on the new assembly when I opened it up to remove the flap. When you’re doing it in the truck, keep in mind you have to move it up and then pry it open as well. When practicing, you only have to pry it open. So, now I have a new part with torn foam. Do, I replace it to be safe or have it installed anyway - TBD.
    The dealership said they were doing this on a truck now. They had a good suggestion - they are replacing all 3 actuators under the dash since they will have it out. $1750 including the 3 actuators and the new assembly. Lot of money to replace a simple plastic part!
    So, Uncle Jake rocks! He did accomplish a very impressive thing in my view. He might have additional input or suggestions on the issues I faced. Success on these type of projects depend on the details and knowing what you are going to face. If you’re like me, you have a limited time to spend. I wish everyone luck and success!!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +1

      Tim this is an awesome comment, and thanks so much for taking the time to reply. Thanks also for giving it a shot; we're sorry it didn't work out for you. What year F-150 do you have? We're still trying to document differences between the model years as well as between the F-150 and the Raptor. Uncle Jake did want to pass on to you that when he did his, he really had to crank on that part, as he says there is a lip there that he had to get over (he said to push down with your fingers and up with your thumb, if that makes any sense to you). He said "you can't be afraid to break the piece" and clarified that he doesn't feel like it will break, it's pretty tough plastic, but it *could* and, at least for him, he was going to replace it no matter what so if it did break he'd have to figure out another way. So not sure if that helps you or others who may be searching the comments but Uncle Jake does confirm it needs quite a lot of force to get it out. Keep us posted on how the repair goes with your rig and thanks again for commenting!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      Also, in thinking about this, if anyone does take it to the dealer/ pull the dash themselves, we'd recommend changing not just the actuators but the doors as well. Our actuator was working fine with the broken door.

    • @timwilliams2643
      @timwilliams2643 2 года назад +2

      @@MotorsandMischief My truck is a 2014.

    • @markdudley5656
      @markdudley5656 2 года назад +1

      Hello, I have a 2014 F-150, non-raptor version, too. I was able to get past the bracket problem after I noticed that the top of the metal bracket bolts on to the underside of the dash with just one nut. Because there's only one on each end of the metal bracket, it's not a permanent part of the dash. In fact, it could be removed if you could get to the top nut. However, that's not possible without taking the dash out, because it's blocked by the plastic tube that feeds the far right vent. Alternatively, I was able to push the stud with bracket through the hole and then swivel the entire bracket to the right, up and out of the way. Because there's only one nut holding the metal bracket at the top, you can swivel it with a little force.

  • @azengineer
    @azengineer 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the solution. I fixed mine today. A couple thoughts for the next folks. First I bought a 90 degree drive adaptor that really helped with a couple screws. Second I really had to pull hard on the housing. I ended up removing completely the screw towards the cowl behind the motor. This enabled me to open it further. I had to open it about 1.5”. Practicing with the new part really helped. Thanks again.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      That's awesome advice! We're really glad the video helped and thanks so much for commenting what you learned!

  • @andrewnewbold6451
    @andrewnewbold6451 2 года назад

    This video was super instructional and saved me some $$$. I just replaced my door today and it took some time and patience. I ended up using screwdrivers to pry the two halves of the housing apart. The back screws are the worst.
    Thanks guys for the informative video.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      That's awesome, so glad to hear it! And yeah the back screws are horrible, we're not sure how to do it without that tool but some viewers have figured out how, so its not mandatory but man it almost is. Thanks for commenting!

  • @slandberg1665
    @slandberg1665 3 года назад +2

    Wow !! Great job sir. You guys are very good at these projects.

  • @davidburns5370
    @davidburns5370 Год назад

    Don't have to say this was the most useful video I've seen in a very long time. And saved me a bunch of time and help me maximize my income on this repaired

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      Outstanding!! Thats what makes it worth it right there, thank you for letting us know!

  • @alangeorge2509
    @alangeorge2509 Год назад

    Just found out this is the same problem on my 2016 Lariat. Think we should all send the broken part to Ford! Thanks for the video.

  • @martyw2199
    @martyw2199 2 года назад +1

    This looks amazing! The recirc door on my 2014 F-150 broke and I have been looking for a fix like this. I am going to purchase the parts and give it a shot! Thank you for the video

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +1

      Awesome! Let us know how it goes. Thanks for commenting!

    • @martyw2199
      @martyw2199 2 года назад +1

      Worked! Lowe’s in WA doesn’t carry that tool but Amazon had an extension that was a must. You are a money saver. Took about 4-5 hours because, well, beer. Now please figure out how to replace the rear backup camera and get zoom working again without paying for a $300 Ford camera. Very happy subscriber.

  • @FordMustangGTRocks
    @FordMustangGTRocks Год назад

    hell yea brother! i dont want to take my whole dash apart in my raptor to fix this. YOU KNOW THE WAY!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад +1

      Hah! Thats exactly right about the whole dash, we find a better way!

  • @bkhammer3807
    @bkhammer3807 Год назад

    Exact same problem on my ‘14 F-150 XLT…. Great video and narrative. You guys ROCK!

  • @MrAWorthy1
    @MrAWorthy1 3 месяца назад

    Got this same issue on my 2013 3.5 EcoBoost. Gonna save this and show to my mechanic!

  • @roberthughes2296
    @roberthughes2296 Год назад

    Success! Thank you Sir! 2013 lariat Couldn't find the flex driver but a reversible ratchet 15° wrench worked inverted there was just enough to get 2 clicks out of the 72 tooth but it would have been so much easier with the flex screwdriver. That screwed was an hour out and 45 min back in.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      Man good job making it work anyway! That silly little flex driver is gold for this project but if anyone is doing it unexpectedly, good to know there's a ratchet combo that will work. Thanks for posting!

  • @marcbrunson6052
    @marcbrunson6052 Год назад

    thanks to your video i was able to track down this problem on my 1999,the flap had come loose and fallen down blocking the blower motor resulting in low air flow through the vents of course the local shop wanted 1500 to replace the evaporator

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      That's awesome! So glad we could help! Thanks for commenting

  • @maicodoug
    @maicodoug 13 дней назад

    The same exact thing happened to me with my 2013 FX4, 3 days after I had the whole dash removed to replace the evaporator core assembly, how could that have caused this recirc door to break the drive hub off. Meeting with the manager this morning and could use some opinions regarding what they owe me if anything. Thx for the great video!

  • @Pipe-Layer
    @Pipe-Layer Месяц назад

    Thank you greatly for this video. Exactly what I needed to do to my vehicle.

  • @shelby64289
    @shelby64289 Год назад

    Thank you sir. I was able to do mine in 2hrs after watching your vid. Wasn't easy and not fun.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад +1

      We can’t remember if that’s a new world speed record or not but it’s for sure up there, good job. Thanks for commenting!

  • @captainkurtm3494
    @captainkurtm3494 10 месяцев назад

    Very nice work around. Same problem with a 2014 F150 Raptor. We were driving down a dirt road and my GF said what is that noise? Is there someone in the forest driving a motorcycle we cant see. Nope it was that fresh air door that broke. I like the work around, now I just have to do it!! I will!! Thanks to your video. The plastic pieces nowadays, ugh.... I might try something different like somehow locking the door into the recirculation position and calling it a day. Either way, thank you for this video and all your other ones too.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for the kind comments, we really appreciate them! If you decide to lock it into recirc (as a bunch of viewers have said they're going to do), just remember a lot of manufacturers have the computer switch out of recirc after a while to get fresh air into the cabin. We have no idea how well sealed a typical F-150 is, but we can't afford to lose any viewers so please be careful!!

  • @ronbaker8774
    @ronbaker8774 2 года назад

    Very nice video and commentary. History made and now you can set up shop and fix these all day every day based on the number of people who have complained about the 'fan noise'.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      Haha right? And other viewers have noted that this goofy system is used in Explorers, Rangers and a bunch of other Ford vehicles. Crazy! Thanks for commenting!

  • @teslakontrol
    @teslakontrol Год назад

    I have a 2002 but I was able to get an idea of the fan and all from your video thank you very much

  • @mfrench7184
    @mfrench7184 2 года назад

    Thanks for the R&D. Excited to tackle this project. Good job.

  • @joshmunoz9492
    @joshmunoz9492 2 года назад

    Everyone should know before attempting this task, check you wiring diagrams in the section of the dash. There is a connection for the airbags and when disconnecting that harness you can potentially cause a electrical discharge and ignite that air bag. The emergency room is not fun. Thanks for the video bud. Helped me a bit.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for the comment. In case we weren't clear in the video, air bags can kill you if they go off next to your head. ALWAYS disconnect the battery and then give the capacitor time to discharge before messing with the airbag. Capacitors are designed to hold power long enough to fire the airbag in an accident if the crash severs the power supply before the airbags can go off, so typically they only hold a charge for about 30 seconds. Err on the side of extreme caution and let them sit for 10 minutes after the power is disconnected. Every manufacturer we're familiar with gives times less than 10 minutes, but check the manufacturer's recommendations on your own vehicle to be sure.

  • @chrislehmann6240
    @chrislehmann6240 5 месяцев назад +1

    Welp think im going to take a self tapping screw and put that POS blend door in recirculation position. Great Vid! 👍

  • @adamcompton567
    @adamcompton567 8 месяцев назад +1

    Very good video. Fixed mine today on my 09. I was wondering why my a/c wasnt working good this last summer. Also why air was coming through the vents when the controls were off. I just ran a screw through the door to lock it in the closed position. If i need fresh air ill roll the window down before i suffocate 😅

  • @ShutUpAndListenYouIdiot
    @ShutUpAndListenYouIdiot Год назад

    Great video! As this is a design problem, i choose to just unplug the actuator so it would quit running all the time on mine and leave it as is.

  • @Lg1969
    @Lg1969 Месяц назад

    Great video!!! So helpful without a doubt BUT can you LINK the part Recir/Fresh Air door or did you just get it from a dealership

  • @rodphend5908
    @rodphend5908 2 года назад

    Nice Job man !!! One step for man and one step for mankind !!!! You the man , thank you for making video ...

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      Hey thanks so much for commenting! We're really glad we could help!

  • @ecarlosg
    @ecarlosg 3 года назад +2

    JUST had that problem today!!. It seems straight forward :).. question about how to zero the actuator. I don't follow that part. can you elaborate some more?

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  3 года назад +1

      Haha great timing then! That's a great question and we can for sure elaborate. Jake simply meant that you need to make sure the motor is in the same position as the door. The easiest way to do that is disconnect the motor, put it in the closed (recirc) position using the switch on the dash, and then put the door in the closed (recirc) position and attach the motor (or put everything in the open (fresh) position, it doesn't matter, as long as the door and the motor are the same). The reason this is necessary is because you have no way of knowing which position the door broke in, so its easiest to just "reset" it by removing it, putting it into a known position and then matching the door to it. Good luck with when you do it and keep us posted!

  • @DoubleTap702
    @DoubleTap702 2 года назад +5

    I just have a feeling that if I attempt this I won’t get so lucky

  • @johnwhitaker2172
    @johnwhitaker2172 10 месяцев назад

    I've been listening to your video and watching it trying to figure out how to get the

  • @shaun5r
    @shaun5r 2 года назад

    My 2011 recirc button no worky. at around 128k.. just took the acuator off and found the broken door piece (which fell into the housing). This is my near future! Great video!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      Man that's awesome we could help, thanks so much for commenting! Good luck when you do yours and let us know how it goes!

    • @shaun5r
      @shaun5r 2 года назад

      @@MotorsandMischief Will do... currently locked the door into "summer recirc only" mode via painter's tape, and once it cools down here in FL ... NEW DOOR GOING IN!

  • @wildbrosNW
    @wildbrosNW 3 года назад +1

    Cool fix to a problem so many F-150 owners have. Take that Ford! lol

  • @EverythingAvron
    @EverythingAvron 2 года назад

    Perfect thank you my EcoBeast just did this exact thing! And I didn’t know what it was at first after digging under the dash I found that plastic nub in the blower motor just like this… and then I was like “Oh Sh*t” how in the world do I fix this? But @Motors and Mischief for the WIN!!! Thank you!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      That's awesome! So glad we could help, thanks for commenting!

  • @jaysson1151
    @jaysson1151 10 дней назад

    Could there be any electrical issues that could also cause the flap to stay in fresh air? My 2012 XLT is stuck in fresh air, the button lights up for recirc, and my fan doesn’t vibrate. It blows fine, it’s just stuck in fresh air.
    Or could it just be that the broken piece hasn’t fallen into the squirrel cage yet? I’m in southern Louisiana and I break a sweat just from walking out my front door to the truck!

  • @bernieslack7686
    @bernieslack7686 2 года назад

    THANKS A MILLION . JOB DONE IN AN HOUR !!!!!

  • @aevans1444
    @aevans1444 10 месяцев назад

    (ORIGINAL) I'm in the process of doing this repair on my 2014 F-150. I can't figure out how to open the 'cage' enough to get the door out. It moves freely upwards (compressing the foam), but I can't get the two half to separate enough to get the door out. Is there a trick? or just brute force...?
    EDIT: I got it done! I'll be honest, it was a pain in the butt. Yes, saved me a good bit of money. But ... it was frustrating. Total time ... maybe 4-5 hours with an overnight break.
    An important note - I did this when it was about 45 deg outside. This probably contributed to the frustration -- cold/dry hands, stiff parts, etc. I suggest doing this (as previously suggested) in a warm garage or in the summer.
    I followed the steps in the video and comments below, with a few key learnings:
    1) There are various wires/pins that I undid to make it easier to navigate. I did NOT remove the airbag, but I imagine it may have made a couple steps a bit easier had I done that.
    2) I removed 5 screws (the two visible screws connecting the two halves of the clamshell, and three around the bottom of clamshell connecting to the base). I couldn't find the suggested Kobalt tool in Canada, so I settled for a flexible extension on my 1/4" drive.
    3) I also removed the top nut (not a bolt) connecting the clamshell to a metal connecting flange. Loosening the second nut on the top of the flange makes it easier to get the bolt out of the top of the clamshell by swinging the flange out of the way.
    3) Getting the clamshell opened enough to get the old flap/door out was a major(!!) pain. I eventually used a tip from the comments: wedge a trim remover (about 3/8 thick by 1.5" wide) between the two halves through the glove box opening. Then, I attached vice grips at a 90-deg angle to serve as a handle. I twisted the trim remover 90-deg which pried the two halves apart. I then used a mini quik-grip clamp to hold the vice grips in place and prevent the trim puller from slipping out.
    4) Even so, the old door was a pain to get out. Once I got a good grip on the non-gear side, I pulled until ... and it broke. It came out pretty easy when 1/4 of it was busted off :)
    5) I used the hot water heating method to warm the new door before installing. Even so, it was a bit of a trick convincing it to go into the clamshell. It finally went, and after re-seating the clamshell, I had a problem: the new door wouldn't freely move back and forth. The two ends were seated correctly in their respective pivot points, but I figured the new door became disfigured from heating -> forcing into position -> cooling in the 45-deg weather. If I pulled down on the door from inside, it would move without catching on the inside of the cage. Letting go caused the door to catch.
    So ... I got the heat gun out and heated the door from underneath. After heating for a bit, I use vice grips to pull the door downward, effectively molding it back into its 'correct' shape (or at least one that allowed free movement).
    6) I put the actuator and fan back in place (no special actions done to reconfigure/cycle the motor). Then I buttoned everything back up, which proved difficult without a magnet -- but we got the job done.
    7) Fired up the truck - worked like a charm!
    As mentioned -- it was an exercise in frustration, but having saved money, I'm quite pleased!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  9 месяцев назад

      This is a great right up, thank you! Yes, we agree, the cold really makes it a lot harder. Doing it in the heat (or having a heat gun as as you and some other viewers have suggested) really makes a difference. Good job getting it done, 4-5 hours is still a respectable time! Thanks for the in-depth comments, they'll be really helpful to other viewers!

  • @daveemmett3999
    @daveemmett3999 Год назад +1

    I went even cheaper. In South Florida, you want that door closed all the time anyway, so after removing the blower, I used zip ties to secure the door into the circulate mode and just left the actuator off/unplugged.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      For sure! If you dont need to change between fresh and recycled its really not necessary unless the tab falls into the fan. If that happens, you can just drop the fan and clean it out. Thanks for posting a comment!

    • @Kk-iw4ck
      @Kk-iw4ck Год назад

      Does that signal a check engine light if you leave it unplugged ?

    • @daveemmett3999
      @daveemmett3999 Год назад

      @@Kk-iw4ck it hasn't so far. It may throw an error code that will show up on a scanner, but I'm not too worried about that.

    • @gamalielgarciasigala5177
      @gamalielgarciasigala5177 Год назад

      Will it still defrost the windshield unplugging and zip

    • @daveemmett3999
      @daveemmett3999 Год назад

      @@gamalielgarciasigala5177 I can't guarantee that since defrost isn't needed in South Florida. I wouldn't think that it would cause any problems in that area though. When I lived in cold climates, I used the defrost with the vent closed and it worked okay.

  • @1ceandfourall
    @1ceandfourall 2 года назад

    Great video, thanks for sharing. I think I will order up the part and go to Lowes for the Dec tool and hopefully will have the same success. Better than smelling exhaust all summer long! Thanks again.

  • @kirkmenier1612
    @kirkmenier1612 2 года назад +3

    Awesome video! I just took off the squirrel cage fan and removed the broken gear and reinstalled original fan. I prefer the recirculating position and don't want to spend extra $$ to replace door. Will it stay in the recirculating position if manually put in that position while reinstalling squirrel cage fan? TIA

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +3

      So glad it helped you! When we were messing with our door, it seems like it flopped around fairly easily without the gear on there. It *may* stay if you put it in recirc and then button it back up, but it might bounce open when you hit a bump, not sure. To be sure it stays closed you might want to tape it shut or something so it can't move. Warning, tho, some manufacturers, like Mercedes and some other Fords, will automatically limit the amount of recirc time and forces a switch to fresh air. We don't know if this is a safety item and we'd hate anyone to have an issue off of something we recommended, especially someone who liked one of our videos! So just keep that in mind if you decide to keep it closed.

    • @mrkellysalinas
      @mrkellysalinas 2 года назад +2

      There’s RUclips video where a guy shows how/what he did to keep the door in the recirc position. “2014 Ford F150 Air Recirculating issue” Basically, he used a very long extension on his screw gun, and coming in from the side of the dash, put a screw through the housing which kept the door from moving.

    • @kirkmenier1612
      @kirkmenier1612 2 года назад

      @@mrkellysalinas please post the link for easy access. TIA

    • @mrkellysalinas
      @mrkellysalinas 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/dFZ7iGWghiI/видео.html&feature=share

  • @appleSUX1
    @appleSUX1 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for this awesome video. My recirculating does not work on 2012 f150 fx4. I replaced the actuator, and it is still not working (it worked 2 times) after the replacement of a brand-new actuator, and then stopped. The flap door is perfectly fine and moves freely with NO broken parts. The recirculating button on the front control panel lights up when you push it, but I'm not sure if it actually works properly or not or sends proper voltage to the actuator. Right now the flap and actuator stuck on "Fresh Air" and will not go back to recirculating. Any suggestion how to check the connector power into the actuator pins with a meter when pushing the recirculation button? Another words what pin powers up when Circulation is on and what pins powers on when its on off position (5 wire pin connector that goes to the actuator, not sure what each wire/pin does and what voltage goes through each pin when its on or off position). Any help or sugestion, I greatly appreciate. I honestly think the actuator is not getting any power or gets some power but stops....not 100% sure tho.

  • @CarsandJoshee
    @CarsandJoshee 3 года назад +2

    Nice work! Do you have the part number for the new assembly?

  • @mgrantom
    @mgrantom 2 года назад +1

    Great video. Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if when 'spreading open' the housing, one of the small Air Wedge Bags would work. I have used them for other projects and they allow you to precisely spread an assembly open with a simple hand pump. You can purchase a set of 3 for around $20.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +1

      That's a really good idea! We're gonna order some up and do a video showing how the Air Wedge Bags can work. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for commenting!

    • @PBlrmkr
      @PBlrmkr 2 года назад +4

      For what it is worth, spreading the cage was not hard to do by hand or stressful on the part. If you remove the 5 screws and stud nut, it is pretty easy to separate. It doesn't spread immediately sideways...you need to pull while lifting to get the lip to pop up. Once mine was spread initially to remove the broken door, it stayed that way more or less until I closed it up again.

  • @kristopherhiser4967
    @kristopherhiser4967 12 дней назад

    I have a stuck recirculator actuator. Can I replace it without removing the dash?

  • @lyleswavel320
    @lyleswavel320 Год назад +1

    Wow, I think I'll leave mine in recirculation in cab max a/c for June through September and just open windows October through May, I'm not turning it off in cab circulation

  • @scottfischer2121
    @scottfischer2121 Год назад

    You the man, thanks so much for the video , very helpful

  • @charles17508
    @charles17508 2 года назад

    Very cool mine broke yesterday I don't care about recirculated air so I'm just gonna get that part out of fan and ford should step up and replace this part for free .

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      Right? Apparently it’s been going on for a long time. Ford must subscribe to If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! And if it is broke apparently don’t fix it either lol

  • @brodiebirkel
    @brodiebirkel 2 года назад +2

    Awesome work! I'm not ready to tackle this as so far I don't seem to mind fresh air all the time but I also haven't hit summer yet... One question I have though....
    When the part broke off and I pulled it out of the fan and replaced the fan the recirc motor seems to CONSTANTLY run even when the truck is turned off and key is out. Seems to be slowly draining the battery which is becoming a real problem in the winter. Would you think disconnecting the actuator motor would solve this so the motor just can't run? Did you notice if the wire harness to it was "easily" accessible while you were in there? Thank you for the great video!!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +3

      Interesting question! Since the computer is looking for a certain amount of resistance in that motor, it makes sense that it would run it until it found that resistance, unless Ford programmed it to stop trying after a certain amount of time (which would make sense, but, well, Ford). It certainly shouldn't be running after the key is turned off, but unplugging it won't hurt anything and will for sure keep it from hunting for the resistance value its looking for when the truck is on. We're not aware of any errors or codes that would bother you or interfere with normal function if that's unplugged. Uncle Jake does mention that connector in the video, we'll figure out what the time stamp is and edit this comment so you can find it easily. Thanks for commenting!

    • @brodiebirkel
      @brodiebirkel 2 года назад +3

      @@MotorsandMischief I got to it from underneath. Little red safety tab and then depress black tab and wiggle free. Not the easiest to get at but no removals needed beyond trim and glovebox. At this point with this 2013 I'm beyond wanting to do the full Uncle Jake fix. Just screwed it in the recirc position and voila. We'll see if unplugging it causes anything else to go wonky. I'll update if so. Thank you again!

    • @m.g.1784
      @m.g.1784 2 года назад +4

      @@brodiebirkel I am having the same thoughts. I have not had battery issues like Brodie, but I can hear the actuator running when you put the key on in the car and when leaving. I have a 2013 F-150 XLT 4x4. I have previously removed the broken plastic piece in the squirrel cage. But now thanks to the video and comments, I think I will disconnect the actuator and screw the door permanently in the recirculating position. If I want fresh air, I have 5 windows I can open.

    • @brodiebirkel
      @brodiebirkel 2 года назад +1

      @@m.g.1784 so I screwed mine open and I’m curious about it effects on my defrost in Wisconsin in January. When I have kids in the car we start to fog up even with the defrost running 🤦🏼‍♂️. I’ve since removed the screw I put in but can’t be sure the flap dropped back to vent. Time to take it apart again and test it out. It seems the only time recirc is used automatically by the truck is Max AC so shutting it for the winter may have been a mistake….
      On a positive note I got a new battery and my truck is starting in the cold again!!! I can’t be certain it was the constant cycle of the damper motor but it certainly can’t help matters.

    • @knd266
      @knd266 9 месяцев назад

      @@brodiebirkel how did you screw the door shut so it's in recirc? I don't think I want to go through the trouble of this even though its way easier than pulling the dash. I'm not pulling the dash unless I lose the evap or heater core, and with 237 on it I might toss the keys in it and call it a day.

  • @johnteal5014
    @johnteal5014 Год назад

    Wowza! You da man! I found you after replacing fan and finding this piece. I’m wondering if the recirculating door would be up or down for recirculating? I’m going to try and screw, wedge or just tape it for always recirculating. Thanks again one day when my son comes to visit we may tackle ur way.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      Really glad the video was helpful. We always recommending fixing it into the fresh air setting rather than the recirc because modern designers will turn off recirc after a certain amount of time to prevent asphyxiation. We don't know if this is strictly necessary or is just the lawyers being overly cautious but we like to err on the side of caution. Thanks for commenting!

  • @ASDonohoe
    @ASDonohoe Месяц назад

    Strange this thing snaps off because the servo motor should have a servo position sensor which should tell the controls to stop activating the servo motor past its locked position. Usually its angular displacement on a wheeled cog

  • @jlopez8639
    @jlopez8639 10 месяцев назад

    Do you have a video on how to remove the passenger airbag? I believe I know how just want to make sure.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  10 месяцев назад

      Check out our video on the SYNC upgrade for this truck, we give detailed instructions on pulling the airbag in that video (you can search the channel content for SYNC). We really need to make a standalone video from that footage but we haven’t yet. We’ll post here when we do. Thanks for the question!

  • @MaddSweetGT500
    @MaddSweetGT500 4 дня назад

    1700 parts and labor isn't that bad considering the part is about 1100 last u checked. But ... F the dealership... DIY all the way ... Good job on this

  • @gasparcervantes381
    @gasparcervantes381 Год назад

    Thank you sir for tich me this job u r the man have a good night.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      Happy to help. This was definitely worth passing onto others. Thank you for the comment, and have a good night!

  • @joeldoherty7100
    @joeldoherty7100 3 года назад +2

    World’s first!!

  • @tr5317
    @tr5317 2 месяца назад

    using your camera view up into the blower compartment, the exterior intake screen had all kinds of JUNK stuck in it. Would an air nozzle eject that debris back out the exterior intake?

    • @tr5317
      @tr5317 2 месяца назад +1

      I saw your video on how to clean this out.... thanks

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 месяца назад

      You are welcome! Mine sure needed it lol

  • @johnwhitaker2172
    @johnwhitaker2172 10 месяцев назад

    I have got everything tore apart but I'm trying to separate it to try to get the door off

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  10 месяцев назад

      Hi John, thats definitely one of the harder parts for sure. I will absolutely do me best to help. You have to spread apart the upper and lower halves enough to get that door, or flap, out. Its kind of hard to do, but you use a wedge to push it apart more, or one hand to pry it apart like I did. It did take some noticeable pressure to separate it enough to get out. If you have plastic scrapper, or wedge, or plastic upholstery tool that could definitely help.
      When you put the new one back in, some have reported soaking the new door or flap in hot water to make it more flexible. I think thats a very good idea for installing the new part. If I can help any further please let me know and very good luck!

  • @germanbuick
    @germanbuick 2 года назад

    success here too,
    Getting to the 2 screws on the front edge almost stopped the repair but I cheated by cutting out some of the grille to get to them through the fan hole,a hack I know, but its just pulling inside air into the fan. and there is a 10 mm nut on a strap on the top edge, so, 4 screws for the "clamshell",4 screws hold the assy. on top of the "fan box", and the 10 mm nut .sound right?

  • @bleujpbaby
    @bleujpbaby 11 месяцев назад

    Oh, you are my hero!!!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  11 месяцев назад

      Ah, shucks, your making us blush! Thanks @bleujpbaby!

  • @mfrench7184
    @mfrench7184 2 года назад

    SUCCESS! I GOT IT. I FREAKING WORKS!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      HAHA nice job!!!! Yeah it can for sure be tough to get it to go, but good job getting it done!

    • @mfrench7184
      @mfrench7184 2 года назад

      I needed that extra inch. I would move the housing to the right and it would stop solid. I rotated that actuator as much as I could. It never cleared for me. Once I got that actuator out of the picture no problem. Again thanks.

  • @willie2042
    @willie2042 Год назад

    Happy to have run into this video..I tried to get mine replaced but was unsuccessful to do because I couldn't get those 2 screws all the way in the back loose. How were you able to accomplish that as it seems almost impossible to reach them. Appreciate any more advice

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      For the screws on the back, Jake had to go with reaching up behind and going by feel. He says its actually not too difficult once you figure out how it has to go on. There is a shot that shows the piece out of the vehicle so you can see where those screws are, which should hopefully make it easier to go by feel. And of course the horizontal (back right) uses the flex tool we linked in the description; from what we can tell the job pretty much can't be done without it (also available at Lowes if you need it fast). Good luck!

  • @johnwhitaker2172
    @johnwhitaker2172 10 месяцев назад

    How did you get that door out of

  • @briangregus5225
    @briangregus5225 9 месяцев назад

    When you talk about the motor, just to be clear, are you speaking about the blend door actuator? In other words, would I need to replace the blend door actuator AND the door itself?
    In my case I have the broken piece in the squirrel cage... there is no mistaking that noise. But I also have a little noise that persists after the truck is off. I thought actuator hunting but all the examples have a clicking noise. This is more of buzzing. Another video claims it's the ecoboost vacuum pump failing. it's right against the firewall. I'll see if the actuator has a fuse I can pull. This video is a big deal BTW. Thank you for doing it.

    • @briangregus5225
      @briangregus5225 9 месяцев назад

      Oh, never mind. I see in another video. The housing for the flap has a female end for the actuator. That is what breaks off. Oh my sweet plastic nightmare.

    • @thailey3
      @thailey3 9 месяцев назад

      I recently removed the broken gear from the blower motor to fix the really loud noise. I left the recirculation door as it was and put everything back together. I now have a buzzing noise (like you said) that is present for the first few minutes of starting the truck and even after I turn off the truck. Did you figure out what this was?

    • @briangregus5225
      @briangregus5225 9 месяцев назад

      @@thailey3 I parked the truck for now. Monday I will decide the plan of attack (and see if parts are available). Everyplace was closed for the holiday.

    • @thailey3
      @thailey3 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@briangregus5225 I figured it out. The buzzing noise was the recirculation door actuator that was continuing to turn. I was able to unplug it by just reaching up from the bottom (next to the blower motor) with my left arm. To unplug it, you have to first pull out the red tang, then depress the flange on the connector with one finger, then pull out the connector. After unplugging, no more buzzing sounds! Note, I also took off the small side panel between the glove box/air bag and the passenger door so I could see what I was doing back there. Hope this helps someone.

    • @briangregus5225
      @briangregus5225 9 месяцев назад

      @@thailey3 That gives me a little happiness actually. Most of the noises people have posted related to the actuator is a ticking (from missing teeth). The only buzzing videos were related to the vacuum pump (which on the ecoboost is also responsible for braking assist if I am not mistaken). If you're getting a buzzing from it that is good news for me. If it's just the actuator... that at least has no safety concerns associated. I think I'll be doing the full fix, jamming a new blend gate in there.

  • @connermacbeth5244
    @connermacbeth5244 2 года назад

    You’re a lifesaver! I’m having difficulty getting the front right screw in front of the grate that you used the flexible attachment to get. I have the flex screwdriver but can’t get it. Did you go through the small gap between the door and the dash to get it?

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад

      What up Conner! I went in with my right arm through the little access between the door and dash, and my left arm going in through the opening behind the air bag. You could try tying a string onto the lower part by the socket and using it to "bow" the flexible attachment. Thats the hardest part, getting that to flex over the screw. If you made it this far you can totally get this last screw!

  • @ejcsds
    @ejcsds 5 месяцев назад

    I have watched this 10 million times and still dont know this: DID you unscrew the 2 screws on the back joint? I failed at this today, but I did not remove the front right side upper nut on the cage or loosen the 2 mentioned earlier.... Gonna try again tomorrow!
    3/17/24 SUCCESS! Key for me was removing the passenger seat and the removal of the stud bolt as mentioned above by PBlrmkr. I only had one bolt left, bet you can guess which it was! BTW I did not need to undo the 2 rear screws.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  4 месяца назад +1

      Holy smokes I just saw this. So glad you figured it out! Sorry I didnt see it when you first posted. Love that you found an answer from our community, thats awesome. We are all learning together on this one. Great work!

  • @user-np7xh5vd7g
    @user-np7xh5vd7g 10 месяцев назад

    You know your not the first I bet a thousand flat rate technicians have done this and got paid good that day 🤘

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  10 месяцев назад

      Probably. But we also get a lot of flat rate Ford techs thanking us for this video so hopefully it’s helping people.

  • @shatteredsoldier81
    @shatteredsoldier81 10 месяцев назад

    I’m about to try this

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  10 месяцев назад

      You got this shatteredsoldier81! Let us know how it goes.

  • @dillonsimpson2401
    @dillonsimpson2401 Год назад

    Great video. I appreciate your help. I am having trouble “zeroing out” the actuator motor, I can’t get the motor shaft to go in the grooves of the door on that side. Any suggestions or help?

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      Man that's irritating for you. No, ours just slid on with a minimum of fuss. Let us know if you figure it out!

  • @christopherlaut2950
    @christopherlaut2950 2 месяца назад

    this is awsome thanks man you are awsome

  • @briangregus5225
    @briangregus5225 7 месяцев назад

    After a delay I got to the attempt. All screws removed. I have the dreaded bracket some have mentioned (I cut the plastic free of it). Old door is out but the new door defies me. I need another 1/2" of space to get the darn thing in. This is with the cage spread 3.5", it wont go any farther. The issue is, even with the watermelon spread, the molded plastic circle underneath that marries to the fan wont let the end of the door slip by. How the heck did people do this? I've been at it for a few days.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  7 месяцев назад

      Ours was a fight but fit. We've heard other guys mention they heat the plastic up to get enough give. So far we've had plenty of people mention its been tough but no one wasn't able to eventually get it to go, so please keep us updated. Thanks for the question!

    • @briangregus5225
      @briangregus5225 7 месяцев назад

      @@MotorsandMischief Update! The watermelon needed to move up. The two vertical screws facing the front of the truck, loosened through the cage with an 8mm box wrench. The door went in, not a lot of force, no bending required. the watermelon went back together (I videoed the inside to check the seams). The door binds slightly on the left side. I noticed by comparing the video of the watermelon in the truck with the new part they are slightly different. On the top of the cage side with the new part there is a gap at the seam. There are no gaps with the truck watermelon. Will this make a difference? Unsure. I had to stop before attaching the actuator. The gear on the actuator is outside the range of the door. Is there a trick to reset the position? Or is it truck on and off until we get lucky? 🙂

  • @wademelancon7756
    @wademelancon7756 Год назад

    So what port needs to be changed? Is it the whole air duct or is it just the flap? And would you have the part number available? Thank you for this video.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад +1

      You can change just the flap. And the part number and a link to the part are posted in the description. Thanks so much for the question!

  • @lyleswavel320
    @lyleswavel320 Год назад +1

    Did you put new motor for door on old piece

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  11 месяцев назад +1

      Great question. The motor is not to difficult to change out, so if the part that inserts into the door looks good you are probably fine to use the old one, and it quits working its way easier to change than the door. Its also not a super expensive part, so it might be worth just swapping it for a new one.

  • @dkg407
    @dkg407 2 года назад

    Great video. Now I have to attempt it. How many hours did it take you?

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +1

      We did it in 4, but with the video thought we could do it in 3. A couple of viewers have said they did it in 2 and the world record is 1 hour following the video. Good luck and let us know how long it ends up taking. Thanks for the comment!

  • @DanielRamirez-dv5hm
    @DanielRamirez-dv5hm Год назад

    Hello,
    Thank you so much for your effort!
    Instead of doing all that can I just disconnect it? Is it possible or can I just take the fuse out? Thank in advance!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад +1

      You can definitely disconnect it! Just watch up to the point where I pull that motor out, just before I do that I disconnect it.
      Also, if you want you can decide what position you want to blend door to be in, recirc or fresh. You will have to remove the fan, hold the door in position, and drive a small screw threw the case and into the door. If you dont care that its fresh, just leave it as is.
      One other note, if you have anything that has broken loose and fallin into the fan, you can just take that out and clean the broken parts and you are good to go!

    • @DanielRamirez-dv5hm
      @DanielRamirez-dv5hm Год назад

      @@MotorsandMischief
      Thank you for replying back! My is not broken, I'm just want to disconnect before it breaks... Since I still have that options to keep it close, I just don't know where to disconnect it!?

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад +1

      Oh gotcha. The video will show you where the connector is, and we'd recommend disconnecting it when the door is open, allowing fresh air in. Some viewers have jammed it in the closed position, and this may be fine, but we do know some manufacturers force a switch to fresh air after a certain amount of time to prevent potential asphyxiation problems, so we'd err on the side of caution and go with the fresh air rather than the recycled. Good luck!

    • @DanielRamirez-dv5hm
      @DanielRamirez-dv5hm Год назад

      @@MotorsandMischief
      Thank you for taking the time to explain it!

  • @Kk-iw4ck
    @Kk-iw4ck Год назад +1

    Can I just tape it or glue it closed ?😅

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      The door is balanced to move easily so once the unit breaks, it doesn't want to stay put, even with tape. That said, you certainly can glue it open if you are determined. Like we've mentioned to other viewers, we recommend putting it in the fresh air position if you're going to lock it into one or the other; depending on how good your seals are, you can potential asphyxiate yourself if you leave it locked into recirc mode (or at least that's what Ford's lawyers think since the factory unit will turn off the recirc after a certain amount of time). Good luck!

  • @reubinthornton
    @reubinthornton Год назад

    Great video. I'm getting ready to tackle same project on 2014 Raptor. "Thought" WRT installing the door open or closed dependent of the Switch... What difference does it make? If I understand correctly, the door motor stops (open and closing) when it reaches preset tension controlled probably by a potentiometer. If I'm correct then it doesn't matter which position the door is installed in or which position the Recirculation switch is in? Does this make since?
    Also, does it make since that the door motor could be the root cause of the door spline breaking: e.g. if the motor doesn't turn off then will continually apply pressure to the spline... With this thought in mind, and assuming I successfully change out the door I'll check the motor operation before reinstalling the blower.
    One more question: from the video I see there are 4 screws (2 front/2 back) holding the housing together. Do/did you remove all 4 screws or just the 2 at the rear of the assembly?

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      We believe you're absolutely correct. In an abundance of caution we put it back the way it was as you saw us do in the video, but we think you're right on both counts: the motor just spins until it gets enough resistance so it doesn't matter where it is in the cycle and also, its probably putting too much force on that door and its what's causing this (very) common problem. Indexing the motor so it "knew" where the door was and then using a pre-determined arc (90 degrees or so) would eliminate the too much force problem but then would require the motor to be properly indexed to the door, something that is (probably) not necessary now and (probably) speeds assembly for Ford. Let us know what you find and thanks for the comment!

    • @reubinthornton
      @reubinthornton Год назад

      @@MotorsandMischief Can you answer my question WRT removing all 4 screws from the housing. I'm pretty sure I just have to remove the 2 clamshell screws on the rear side. BTW, I just picked up the housing from the Ford Dealer and removed the blend door. Upon inspecting door end where the motor attaches the splines will only align in one way. There's definitely no need to worry about the switch and/or door position when reinstalling the blend door motor (it only goes on one way.)

  • @2962Todd
    @2962Todd Год назад

    Great video! I have this issue on my 2014 F150. If the door motor uses press to stop it would it matter if you didn’t clock it?

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад +1

      Thank you! Based on the comment discussions here we’re of the opinion that no, you don’t need to clock it like we did. However, no one has reported back to confirm this yet so if you do it, let us know if it works. Thanks for the question!

    • @bosenterfitt759
      @bosenterfitt759 Год назад +1

      I didn't clock mine. It auto located once everything was reinstalled and I reconnected battery. Battery was disconnected for airbag removal.

  • @larrymercer4153
    @larrymercer4153 2 года назад

    I have a 2015 Ford F150 twin Turbo 3.5 my AC actuator's stop working how can I get them open without opening the hole taking the whole - off just to open them up or which ones are the ones that really go out instead of changing them all out and wasting money

  • @davidmendez3545
    @davidmendez3545 Год назад

    If resistance is what stops the gate motor, does it still need to be set at a certain starting/stopping point at installation of the new gate? 2013 F150

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      You are 100% correct! So no… it doesn’t. We weren’t positive when we filmed the video but have since confirmed it works exactly as you say. So it can safely just be stuffed in there and it will adjust itself. Thanks for the comment!

  • @thailey3
    @thailey3 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video! I recently removed the broken recirculation door gear from the blower motor and fixed the really loud noise. I left the recirculation door as it was and put everything back together. I now have a faint buzzing noise that is present for the first few minutes of starting the truck and again after I turn off the truck. Is this the recirculation door actuator that is still trying to open/close the recirculation door? If so, is there a way to unplug the recirculation door actuator or a fuse to disable it? Thank you for the help!

    • @thailey3
      @thailey3 9 месяцев назад

      I figured it out. The buzzing noise was the recirculation door actuator that was continuing to turn. I was able to unplug it by just reaching up from the bottom (next to the blower motor) with my left arm. To unplug it, you have to first pull out the red tang, then depress the flange on the connector with one finger, then pull out the connector. After unplugging, no more buzzing sounds! Note, I also took off the small side panel between the glove box/air bag and the passenger door so I could see what I was doing back there. Hope this helps someone.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  9 месяцев назад

      Great reply @thailey3 thanks! That buzzing is something I didnt think about, without resistance that gear will just keep turning for a period of time. Great input.

  • @curtisteeters6700
    @curtisteeters6700 10 месяцев назад

    When you showed th part that moves to recirculation (when we went up side down) wich position would be recirc and would it stay.
    ?

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  10 месяцев назад

      Hi Curtis! It falls down into the open position. So, if you wanted to be recirculated it would need to be in the up position. Unfortunately it wont stay up on its own, but some have used a small screw to hold it in the up position. Thats if the part I fixed is broken on the flap itself. If its the motor thats broke, its possible it might stay in the up position. Good luck and come back and tell us how it went!

  • @gabrielsanchez-wg7uj
    @gabrielsanchez-wg7uj Год назад

    So I just bought a newused 2014 F150 yesterday and noticed this problem today, I was like WTF? So I called the dealer and of course I bought as is. This noise only happens on high speed. Is it possible to just leave the damper on closed position and just have recirculating air? Not a big fan of fresh air coming into the cab. I live in Texas and its rarely has awesome weather. Its either hot or cold. Also is the damper forward or up to be in the recirculating air? Also thank you for an awesome video

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      Absolutely! You might need to put a screw through the box and into the door to hold it in place. Just use a really small one. For the sound, I would drop the blower down and see if you have pieces in the fan, thats probably making the noise. That where all the broken pieces go lol.

  • @KirkAlanMetal
    @KirkAlanMetal 2 года назад

    Thank You for this video!!!

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  2 года назад +1

      You are so welcome! Glad it helped and thanks for commenting!

  • @jnhook8086
    @jnhook8086 3 месяца назад

    was so freakin pissed to find out that I needed to do that much work and buy another part for this aside from the blower motor. Thanks for making a video on the steps. I found that broken piece in the blower motor just like you did in your video.. silly design

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  3 месяца назад

      We're convinced this situation is the result of a 100-year old grudge between Ford engineers and Ford technicians that started way back with a Model T when one of the mechanics compared the design of some component on the Model T unfavorably with the engineer's mother. And we all suffer for it.

  • @gfiuza13
    @gfiuza13 Год назад

    What about all the leafs and stuff that was behind the blower motor does that not affect how hard the ac blows?

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      It sure does, great question. We took that head on in this video on how to clean that out. ruclips.net/video/yj3Qv5QR-xQ/видео.html

  • @chujuy1
    @chujuy1 Год назад

    So I have a question, do I need to remove the green screws from the back that hold the assembly together? I know I have to remove the one that is towards the rear that bolts it down. Prepping to do this on a 2014 ford f150. So far I have all the screws out except for the two in the rear that hold the assembly together. Thanks.

    • @MotorsandMischief
      @MotorsandMischief  Год назад

      Sounds like you have it about ready! Take a look at 12:20, thats a great spot in the video to see what screws I take out and where they are at. You basically have to take out the screws on the right side, including two lower ones, so you can pull it apart. That spot in the video shows the locations. Good luck and tell us how it goes!!