I’m Not Upgrading to M2
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- New M2 Apple MacBooks are here and they're more powerful than the previous M1 version. Still, are they powerful enough to switch to? Spoiler alert: Marques doesn't think so. Besides that, he talks with Andrew and David about the Mac Mini too which is a sneaky great deal.
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🚨 *BREAKING NEWS:* Every tech RUclipsr ever discovers they don’t need the latest and greatest because it’s a minor spec bump.
They're Getting tired of apple fr
Breaking News: since when has this stopped them? They're minted.
There will always be someone getting their first MacBook, or wanting to upgrade from a 9 year old MacBook.
@@shudson489 EXACTLY.
Nobody should upgrade their Mac model every single year.
The usual blurb from all reviewers on RUclips.. "should you upgrade if you have (insert previous year model here)? No"
Honestly as an average user, I haven’t hit the limits of M1 MacBook Air yet. Had some heating instances/battery drain with M1 IPad Air but under some extreme circumstances. IE I use the M1 IPad Air as a main driver now. Like 10 apps open, 4 slide over apps and a RUclips video PiP -> no issues. Ironically the heating instances came from having a RUclips in PiP and using Apple Pencil in GoodNotes. Or heating up when playing Apple Music while marking up photos in the photos app. M1 in any form is pretty muscle for the average user.
I agree, and I'm a programmer. I've put the base M1 8gb air through a fair share of troubles, such as machine learning tasks, virtual machines, and iphone emulators, and it still seems to hold its own. I replaced the batterty and USB-C ports myself, and it'll work as well as I need it to for probably another year.
@@austin2150 Wait..what? You had to replace the battery and usb ports already?
Especially if you have 16GB instead of 8GB. 8GB is fine for most.
this justifies my need for a macbook pro 14" for watching youtube and light gaming 👍
Using my baseline Macbook Air for programming with 3 external Monitors connected to my docking station. I have several chrome tabs open, vscode other tools, running and building stuff and got no problems with the performance at all
The expectation that consumers should be looking to upgrading their computer every year is reinforced by tech RUclipsrs. People can get really upset by year spec bumps. I don’t get upset because I want to keep my computer for at least 5 years. If they increase the speed b y 20% year over year that is just fine for me.
Exactly. Most people upgrade like all 4-5 years and then they probably get the newest, so it makes sense for them to release every year something new that will last for 5 years again.
Exactly. I've had the M1 MacBook Pro 16in for a little over one month now and could easily upgrade to the M2, but I'm not interested since the M1 does exactly what I need it to do and it's not like I'm maximizing the performance out with the type of work I do. I learned a long time ago upgrading your devices every single year so you have the newest model is a big waste of money because it's never ending. Hell, I would still be using my 2019 MacBook Pro if my display worked and keyboard wasn't broken which is the reason for me getting the 2021 since it wouldn't have been worth it to put God knows how much money into fixing an uninsured 2019.
For my work, Graphic Design, I’ve been fine with a 6-7 year life cycle for my macs. If I were doing more gpu intensive work like video editing or 3d that life cycle would have been a bit shorter, but for my purposes 6-7 years is fine.
yup
In reality you should be able to use the M chip MacBooks for at least eight years minimum.
Was overdue for a laptop upgrade. I opted out and purchased the M1 MacBook Pro 14 inch instead of the M2. It was $400 off at Best Buy! Very happy with my decision.
Good deal
I’m doing this as well :)
I've been scouring for videos/comments describing this experience. I'm in this exact same situation where I need an upgrade period & just want to know whether it's worth spending extra for the M2 or save & get the M1. Because realistically I could get either but it may be unnecessary to get the M2.
Hello, I want to buy it too, the base model with 16gm ram etc. Do you think it suits me? I go to uni and need it for lots of research with lots of tabs open and I write a loth there. Maybe I also start with some 2D animations. Thanks!
I ended up buying the M1 Pro 14 & I recommend it for everything you've described. So far it's been reliable for everything uni related. @@waveril5167
I think they got the explanation of HDMI ARC a bit confused. From what I know. ARC stands for Audio Return Channel. This has been on HDMI and TVs for a while. I been using ARC since 2016. Not sure what version of HDMI was back then. But the purpose of ARC was to simplify HDMi connections by having all HDMI devices connected to TV and TV would be connected to Sound System via ARC HDMi port on TV to ARC port on HDMI ARC port (very useful on Sound Bars with few HMDI in ports). This mean all HDMi audio gets passed to the TV and the TV then passes it to the ARC port to Sound System The benefits are devices like DVD players or Streaming devices can be controlled by TV remote. Switching device being displayed can also be done by TV remote.
This is different than connecting all devices to Sound System and having the Video Passed to the TV . If the sound system is an older sound bar like mine. Its able to pass through 4K video but not HDR. Basically all of my HDR device MUST be connected directly to TV. All HDMI control and device switching is done via Sound System Remote for devices connected to Sound System not TV.
I believe eARC is Enhanced Audio Return Channel. It basically does everything ARC does but supports Audio formats that ARC doesn’t. eARC TVs support regular ARC mode on the eARC port and can be manually set eARC on or off. Off being old school ARC.
As a PhD in Computer Engineering, last year I acquired the 16 “ M1Max 32 GB for high performance computing on the go. I have no intention of upgrading my laptop until 3-4 years from now. This month I built a new pc to replace my 7 yr old pc. New pc specs: i9-13900k oc’ed to 5.8ghz, MSI z790 mobo, 32 GB DDR5 oc’ed to 6Ghz, 4GB internal nvme, cooler master H500p, RTX 4090 gpu, Corsair AIO (3 fans pulling cool air through the radiator on top), and 4 Noctura fans: 2 200mm front fans pulling air in from the front and 2 120mm fans pushing air out from the rear , W11, and a bluetooth keyboard and bluetooth mouse. I’m content with my stationary and portable gear for at least 4-5 years. I use both machines for productivity and gaming (pc mainly). As a side note, I turned my older pc into a server...
What’s on that server?
RTX 4090 gawdam
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@@Optimistas777 Cartoons...
@@KarlDag Cartoons...
Doesn't matter if this guy upgrades or not. He has it all 😂
Sweet sweet ad revenue
He has it given for free.
@@myp0h wow didn't know if you wouldn't have commented I would never know. Oh how on earth can you be repayed for this debt
@@myp0h well yes, but actually
@@myp0h I don't think Apple lets reviewers keep whatever they're getting for press. Marques can easily afford it no question but he doesn't seem like someone who's extremely wasteful with money or someone with a big ego
I have a base spec 14” MacBook Pro M1 Pro and I’m still blown away by how good it is. I have no intention of upgrading for at least a few years.
Facts
I have the base model too, and the same, but the mac studio m2 max is a monster, probably the 30 gpu cores and 32gb of ram makes a huge different.
For video creators, cameras in the past year haven’t changed too much. We aren’t seeing 8K60 and 6K120 being pushed at all in the market. Codecs have stayed relatively the same.
Honestly, the biggest bottleneck in camera files is having fast storage that is also large enough without breaking the bank.
Its because on many social media sites they might support high-end codecs but when the video is posted the video player limits the quality
Loved the banter and nerd talk between everyone on this episode!
I binged through so many podcast clips and decided on getting an M1 Air. Got it on sale for $690 thanks for all the help guys!
8gb ram?
The M2 is only worth it if you’re upgrading from the intel macs or older windows pc but 96gb of ram damn that’s a lot.
At that point save $100 and get M1
so if I have a 2018 mbp intel I should upgrade or should I keep it
@@jegardo11 depends on usage. Do you work or have classes or take coding and/or video/photo editing seriously?
@@jegardo11 upgrade💯
@@jegardo11 I took my Apple MacBook Pro 2018 15” with semi max specs into Apple, for repair for a battery, they couldn’t get into the backend diagnostic menu and also said my Mac needed more repairs. They told me 2 weeks, 2 weeks past and I called because I had no update. In the end they told me they broke it, I’m a coder and do a lot of 2D/3D work too. In the end 5 weeks past and they were honest and told me they broke it and it sat for 5 weeks doing nothing. So they’re upgrading me for free to a 16” MacBook Pro Max but they said like for like so it was 32GB etc of RAM.
I said if I could pay for upgrades so I would be spending £1200 for a top spec £5000 machine. I’m only sorry is projects converting to Intel to silicon but is this a good move worried I see a lot of negative news about M2s.
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I usually upgrade every 3 to 4. I currently have a 2021 iMac 27" 5k intel w/ Radeon card. I'll start looking to upgrade around M3 to M4. Hopefully by then they'll have released an "affordable" mini led (or oled) 120 hz monitor.
So actually ARC has existed forever, what is added with e-ARC is "enhanced” arc with higher bandwidth, which now allows those audio return channels to carry enhanced surround sound formats like DTS:X and Atmos as opposed to the old standard of 5.1 only, with arc
Thanks. I had ARC like on my old-ass 1080p Samsung panel, and was thinking I’m going nuts while they were claiming that this is hdmi 2.1 feature.
I saw a video where they discovered that the speakers in the M2 Pro 14 sound worse than the last gen model, don't know if that also applies to the 16 inch model. I hope that's just a software issue rather than a hidden downgrade, just like what they did with storage speeds. I don't understand why Apple can get 2 things right without completely ruining 1 again.
I saw videos which say the speakers are better
5:51 so this has actually existed for a while, like the better part of a decade while, in the form of standard ARC. eARC is exclusive to HDMI 2.1, yes but it effectively just adds a ton of bandwidth which can support any high end audio codec like Dolby Atmos, DTSX, etc. that requires the additional bandwidth to return audio to your external speakers.
I’m upgrading. But that’s only because I have finally lost my patience with the slow af rainbow wheel of death on my 2012 MBP.
That mispronunciation of "chassis" 😅
With my effect heavy editing the m1 max mac studio really comes to its limits, excited for the new m2 max
Marquez is so humble for his achievements. Good on you bro
I think that it was a decent bump but I have an M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16 and a base Mac Studio and these two machines meet my requirements. They both have enough RAM (32 GB), storage and far more CPU than I require. They are both a pleasure to use. Would M2 be nice? Sure. But I don't need them. 3 nm would be nice too but I don't think that I will need it. I could see using my current hardware for several years. I'm glad to see Apple adding features with every release, and, when there are enough of them, I'll upgrade.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the most important part of HDMI 2.1: it might not have _any_ of those capabilities, because the HDMI implementers decided that you don’t have to implement all of the 2.1 spec to be allowed to label something “2.1”.
I’m still rocking my mid 2012 MacBook Pro 😆😆
Normally I don't hit the limits of my 16GB M1 MacBook Pro. But for app development, when I have to implement UIs and check their compatibility for different screen sizes, my macbook cannot handle 4 simultaneous iOS simulators.
It's lacking RAM and CPU power for that. And now I'm also testing for android, so I would want my macbook to open 4 android emulators and 4 iOS simulator simultaneously.
I think RAM upgrade(new macbook with more ram) would do, but thinking about CPU upgrade too.
My 64GB RAM M1 Max still hasnt maxed out while I develop
We have had a similar experience doing SwiftUI work.
I don’t think the new MacBook will help much. Even on a M1 Ultra Mac Studio with 20 cores and 64gb of RAM it runs pretty badly with a handful of previews. I think the bottleneck might be in Xcode.
One way we sped things up was doing the UI dev work with hard coded values rather than using real data via our view model & and an observedObject. That made things much much faster.
Hope that helps!
@@jamieknight326 ohhh I forgot to mention that I use Flutter for app development. So I never really had proper exposure to xcode.
I’m upgrading from a 2015 MacBook Pro to the m2 pro. Excited.
how is it
@@samairamalik3404 This laptop kicks ass. Handles absolutely everything I throw at it. Currently got it hooked up to two 24" monitors. I use it every single day with programming, 3d rendering.
I'm still running on my 2019 Intel Macbook Pro, don't see a reason to upgrade unless my computer slows down or just stops working completely one day.
I also have the intel 2019 macbook pro, no problems with normal use such as browsing, but when it comes to editing videos it struggles for a bit. Also what I hate is it heats up faster and the battery just last 3 to 3.5 hours. Was beginning to think of buying the new mac mini then make my macbook pro to windows via bootcamp.
@@orenjiTK Exactly what I'm dealing with. It's so frustrating
I've used the m1 MacBook pro with 8 cpu and 8 GPU cores since launch. I don't think I'll be upgrading for a very long time.
No reason to for 99% of people. It’s an insanely nice machine
I still use the 2018 MacBook Pro 15, the thing gets loud and the chassis very hot and the keyboard was replaced twice.
I will never buy a MacBook again, I don't care that their chip is so great now, but why can the new MacBook pull 140W, while mine pulls 87W max. and cooling is so much worse on the old one? That doesn't even have to do anything with Intel, more power generates more heat.
I believe they deliberately crumbled the cooling on their Intel Macbooks and now the saviour-chips from Apple are here.
That combined with the shit keyboard that they used for several generations while promising every time that issues are now resolved will keep me from buying their Macbooks ever again.
When the keyboard program runs out I will have a 2000€ brick sitting here or I will have to go to some repair shops for a problem caused by Apple and I will not spend money on a Notebook where the keyboard will eventually fail again.
@@wtf17727 Copium
@@wtf17727 wow ive had none of those issues, been using Macs for a couple decades.
@@wtf17727 Chill, Apple doesn’t need your money lol long love the M1 chips
After working on Macs for 4 years finally have a decent Mac, used to have a cheap low end iMac, but never used it, was gifted a Mini and loving it
Some of these specs are so crazy. Nobody normal needs any of this. My wife recently upgraded to an M1 Macbook Pro for a good price, and given how fast it is, I doubt she'll need to replace it for a very long time.
My PC has 64 GB of RAM, 16 GB of which is being used up as a RAM Disk (for Chrome cache and speeding up lightroom). So really it's 48 GB. I've literally never seen less than 20 GB of free memory even photo and video editing. Most of the time I have 35+ free. 96 gigs of memory as a base option is just nuts.
HDMI 2.0 can handle up to 240 Hz when using 1080p resolution, 144 Hz when using 1440p resolution, and 60 Hz when using 4K resolution.
HDMI 2.1 cables can handle up to 120 Hz when using 4K resolution and 60 Hz when using 8K resolution. Lower resolutions than 4K can all handle up to 240 Hz when using an HDMI 2.1 cable.
Maybe they already have the face id hardware in this one but they'll introduce the feature with a software update 😂
it would be obvious if it did but it doesn’t 🤦
That's not fair to Windows... Check out the camera preview on the teams icon in Windows 11!
Incremental yearly hardware updates is such an e-waste problem
Neither did I. I got instead 16 inch m2 pro chip MacBook Pro with Touch ID and advise use thumb when doing it since everyone thumb print is different. Note avoid arcade from App Store high res. Games like tomb raider or 2k sports since they run battery done faster then it would if playing farming simulator game like township or game of solitaire. Above all 3rd party application games like Plarium play. Where you need 4k res and max frame and refresh rate you can do be sure connected to power source or have fully charged battery.
My M1 Mac Mini is still running my business lol… I might do some sort of M3 Max or something … but this thing is awesome.
(I have the 16 gb ram/256 ssd. I do app and web development)
ARC (audio return channel) supports the bi-directional audio, but only a lossy signal. EARC allows for a lossless signal.
loving the stereo chat, would love to see more of that from you
I like all the different brains in one video. Awesome!!!
🧠🧠🧠
i would like to see them all on a stick...will be wholesome
Macs are notorious for lasting several years to a decade on average. Nowadays, they're likely rated to last longer maybe given the advancement in tech over the years. 3 weeks ago, I upgraded from a 2015 Air to an M1 Pro MBP (massive upgrade indeed) and I do semi heavy work on it still having yet to come close to maxing out the chip's potential. If ultra tech savvy RUclipsrs said there's really just no need to jump for small spec bumps, that should say a lot. That's not even limited to Macs but applies to most tech in general. They said it best when they mentioned M2 is for those coming from much older devices, but really it just depends on which gives the better deal. In my case, Apple basically gave away the M1 MBP and I couldn't pass up.
I think incremental updates are not justified when the price to functionality ratio gets smaller each year. M5 will be a good one.
What the heck is the point of the notch without the Face Id????? It makes NO Sense!!
1:29 his witty little comment blew back in his face immediately
A week later: "Why I upgraded to M2" 😂
Marquez why the big boy mic ? I know those go for $1,000 but those $400 Shure work fine. Just a curiosity question
My house outlets are all white. A white charger helps it disappear and the dark color cable doesn’t show dirt. Works for me!
If and when a so called M4 comes out I'll be anticipating the M6 instead, because by then, the design might actually be pure minimalist design. Where I'll get all screen, without the noise of an unsightly notch with no functionality to justify its ginormous presence. I want to use superior external capture devices. I love four USB C ports, I really don't mind dongles. First world problems don't affect me like most people. I wanna use my wired headphones and wired speakers, I love options rather than restricted by unnecessary tech inside my ultra thin and light, desktops replacement. Why would I want so many ports and so much battery capacity if it's my desktop replacement? When I travel with it, I'm going to adjust my use according to need not as if I'm always gonna be using it out as though I'm at home.
I just want a beautiful design, like the current M2 Airs, but with all screen, no web cam no mic, no speakers. All keyboard like those big square arrow keys and shallow key travel, because i never eat or drink while working. I even Loved the touch bar, I have no desire for function keys, eww. I don't need face ID I don't need a fingerprint reader. I'm not CIA.
I want the future. I don't want tiny upgrades. Don't tease me don't patronize me. LoL ! Right ?
Might be a little late but I just picked up am M1 Pro 16" with 1TB of storage at Best Buy and I love it already. The M2 models ar like the polar opposite of what the M1 Pro/Max devices did. The M1 devices represented a massive shift in technology that turned a product that was unjustifiably expensive for what it brought to the table, finally giving it a reason to not only to exist, but to be probably the best option for many people. The M2 went back to a slight spec bump with a few new features. It came out as the economy was tanking, and it doesn't make the most sense for anybody but the most demanding of power users because you could (and still can) find the older model that isn't that much slower at a significantly reduced price, like the 14" base model for $1599, and the 16" base model for $1999.
I got the 14 inch M1 Pro MacBook Pro 16GB - 1TB and it's overkill for me. I just like the good screen, amazing speakers. I use it to do things like develop Roblox games using my iPad as a second screen to follow along tutorial videos. Love listening to music right out of the speakers. Light image creation with affinity designer. Great machine! Should easily last 5 years.
the only people who should realistically be upgrading to m2 are people who still have intel computers. heck, I’d even just tell them to get a cheaper M1 device just because the M1 chips are still really good today.
I currently have an M1 Macbook Pro (the 13” with a touchbar). I’m not upgrading until 2026 at the earliest. even still, I think I’ll be fine by then
Im so happy with my M1 mac mini. It does everything I need. So if you're still using a intel chip mac then the upgrade would be great for you. Or if you never owned a mac before. Other than that, M1 to M2 is not worth the upgrade. Unless you ran out of storage on your M1 and you want to trade up.
My Macbook Pro is 5 years old and is using the old Intel chipset. I'll be upgrading this year.
Got one M1 Pro 14’ 16gb ram for 400$ off from best buy a few weeks ago. Pretty happy about it. I code for work.
Is 16gb enough for you? I was thinking of getting 32gb ram.
@Nathaniel Walker Yeah I ended up getting a refurbished m1 pro 16" 1tb 16gb and no issues at all. 32gb is overkill for me and a very expensive upgrade.
@@andy5434 what kind of work do you do? I'm thinking about getting the same model.
i want the lighted apple logo back , would be dope. classic!
I believe the reason they dont do this was because of the lack of structural integrity that results when implementing this, from what I've seen/read/heard.
@@bigboiz7237 makes sense, but i still think if they wanted, they would it make happen. would' be dope the possibility to turn it on or off, i mean just like we can increase and decrease the screen light with the keyboard keys. something like that
@@bigboiz7237 And also, the display part of the laptop is _so_ thin, that you would end up seeing light coming straight through the middle of the display. I heard that that would be bad for color accuracy, which makes sense.
I currently have an M1 Pro Macbook Pro 14" (my first Mac!). I don't feel the need to update any time soon.
Just bought a Mac Mini with M2. I was using a 2018 MBP which worked great for light video creation until it died last week. I expect the new MM will last just fine for years to come.
The Eero Pro 6E is garbage. I bought a couple and had nothing but trouble for months. Returned it after going through troubleshooting for ages with them. I’m a technical user who has setup Wi-Fi dozens of times.
The best way I have found to check a video input fast on windows is the camera app.
I am using 2013 MacBook air just fine, replaced battery 2 years back that is it. LR use, Web browsing works absolutely fine!
I’m the director of engineering for a company building fraud screening tools.
We’re considering an upgrade from M1 Pro 16” MBP to M2 Pro 16” MBP for three reasons.
1. Our test suite is massive and a 20% increase has real world gains for developer productivity.
2. We’re doing more AI and GPU accelerated tools where we bottleneck on the memory bandwidth of the M1 Pro
3. The M1 Pro 16” MBP would be deployed within the company where the large screen comes in handy.
From a business perspective the 16” M1 chips paid back the investment against the Intel 16” pros in about 4 months.
I don’t think we’re likely to upgrade the M1 Ultra Mac Studios we use for CI / heavier dev tasks. It plenty fast. We’re interested in closing the gap between the two.
I hope it’s useful to share our context.
I have a personal 14” M1 Pro MBP which I mostly use for writing, building little iOS Apps and and playing cities skylines. It’s been brilliant. I won’t be upgrading to M2, however I am tempted to build a small form factor gaming rig this year. 😁
I have 4 laptops in this house right now. All are macs. 3 13in and 1 15 in. They are all 10 years old and still do the job I need them to do...
Regarding Windows Webcam --> Just pull the camera app out. Its fast and gives you a good view from your webcam. :)
In my area I can’t get a new M1 Pro 14inch model… only refurbished, just extra few hundreds more for m2 pros .
8k maybe silly - at least for now, but 4k 120hz isn't. Why would you want to work on a 60hz monitor when your iPhone and iPad can all do 120hz and you've spent way more time working on a monitor than on a mobile device.
I am nowhere near hitting the limits of my machine and my machine was very, very expensive. Plus I'm done with my CS Master this year (fingers crossed) so no student rate in the Apple Store anymore. I'm good, thanks Apple. Keep going though I'll be back in a few years for a new machine. Can't wait for what they come up with.
I did professional videography and photography using my M1 Pro MacBook w 16gb ram. It handled 4K 10 bit raw editing in Premiere like butter, without even heating up. Made the right decision not springing for a M1 Max
Same. We are in the same industry. I am nowhere the limit of my M1 Pro 16" with 16GB RAM. It still breezes through with anything that I dump on it. It's a beast and would probably last me for another 3-5 years.
I’m using base 14 inch M1 Pro and still having no issues at all. I’m not budging.
Have you tried 8K raw? I would love to know if it can handle it. I have a uni course that needs a laptop that can handle 8K raw video editing and I was looking at the m1 pro/max's and the m2 pro/max's but don't know whether the m1 pros can handle it :( Also hdmi 2.1 with 8k 60hz support on the m2 pro/max's would be cool but not necessary
@@JacobAU I’ve never tried it so I can’t say, I think that may be pushing it to the point of some stuttering especially with effects, color grade applied. But I would say do two things: maybe someone has tested it on RUclips, and take advantage of Apple’s 14 day return policy. Get one and test it out 👍🏽
I got a MacBook Pro 2015 and want to do some editing so I want to get a new MacBook should I get the new MacBook Pro with m2 max? Or is the m1 fine?
I always thought the let down for Mac was them cooking your lap, why they don't have better cooling with the aluminium chassis.
I use my mac mini M1 for professional colorgrading on davinci resolve and besides the export times being kinda high, the performance is great and i'm not planning on switching it. Even with 6k, 8k and 12k raw, the m1 handles super well on DR18
Do you have a 8gb or 16gb model?
@@hop9920 256gb/16gb ram
I’m recording music and use a ton of virtual instruments and plugins. Started hitting the limits of my M1 MacBook Air. Any suggestions for an upgrade. I don’t do any video editing just music recording with a lot of plugins and virtual instruments.
When it comes to the global chip shortage and running out of parts and stressful work conditions I always think:
Why do we need a new iPhone every year? Why do we need a new MacBook every year?
How much of the chip shortage would be alleviated if companies encouraged keeping devices for 4+ years? And didn’t entice with “GROUNDBREAKING FEATUERS” every year? (Which are often just minor spec bumps)
I completely agree. Lots of things would be better if we’d just slow down a bit. But then the profits would be much lower and I guess companies want to release new tech as fast as possible to remain competitive. It’s a bit sad to me.
Well, you see, there is this thing called capitalism so....
@@jrizmalj you’re right… the profit number would be lower… but so would costs?
I assume at the end of the day they only care about seeing the green line go up for their investors/shareholders
I’ve still got my 9” 2018 iPad Pro and is doing just fine. 64 gigs even.
as a Comic artist i use the M2 iPad more than anything; drawing on the M2 there is no comparison to anything else i’ve used. it is way ahead of the M1. it’s simply amazing.
I finally upgraded my 2018 MacBook Pro to a MacBook Pro M1 and 4 days later the M2 got released, took the M1 back and got the M2 for the same price…
I’m thinking of doing this too… I got the m1 on sale but now that the m2 is out….
That there is no Mac Pro on the M2* makes this chip sort of a stop gap and I expect some major design work being done with M3 to address short comings, the M series is still very weak compared to dedicate GPU solutions so either ramp that up or find a way to allow for offloading to one
Still have an intel macbook(bought in 2021), no plan on upgrading for years still. But I do think they should continue releasing new models yearly/bi-yearly
Is this like a podcast Marques is on all the time?
Waveform is his official podcast
I wish Apple would provide a version of the Macbook, that has the minimum processor (Like a base M1 or M2), and a larger screen, (like a 15"/16"). I would have loved something like a Macbook Air 15"/16". I'm a designer. The M1 chip is way more than good enough for most of the design work I do. So it would have been nice if I didnt have to have a more budget friendly large screen option.
please help, i'm deciding between:
- MBP M2 8 GB + 512 SSD
- MBP M2 16 GB + 256 SSD (+ external hard drive)
i'll mainly use it for note taking and video watching, some gaming from time to time (Sims 4, Minecraft, Stardew Valley). i'm switching from Windows (Lenovo Ideapad 5): i've never had a mac
The part, I am nervous about with the current generations of tech is.. if you have a M1 and don’t upgrade to M2 then they will either throttle you OR make the M1 artificially less stable in comparison. Ugh..I’m sure I’m wrong and hope I am.
Need to ask a question: I just ordered a 14” MacBook Pro M2 with upgraded ram 32 and hard drive to 1T. I’m a musician and need to have enough to run plug-ins and virtual instruments. The extra ports seem handy too. That said, is the Air enough? Any comments appreciated. Thx
Honestly feel if you have anything M1, there is no real value to upgrade to M2
If your still on Intel chips 100% must upgrade with HUGE differences even for casual users
I am upgrading from 2019 Intel to refurbished 2021 M1. I looked at the M2, but I can save $470 by not getting the latest model, and I honestly do not need the spec bump difference between M1 and M2. But the perf difference and battery life between Intel and M1 is absolutely worth it.
Omg the white usb port doesn’t match the space grey chassis. We are so fortunate to be alive in this time.
i currently use a 2017 i7 macbook air and it isnt bad at all. i mostly just send emails and browse.
Nice and good content as always!!! But despite from the topic you are talking about here... what I'm wondering all the time is, why are you guys waring headphones? I mean... you are sitting next to each other... what is the reason for this?
Please don’t repost cut previous episodes and post them again with different title. Pretty sure I heard this convo couple days ago
After watching all of the announcements about M2 Pro and Max it sounds like a solid improvement over M1 Pro and Max. There is nothing wrong with an iterative update to the product. That’s much better than stagnation. If you have an M1 Pro or Max, then it’s not worth upgrading. If you are using an intel powered Mac, then it is time to upgrade. If you bought a 16” Pro in 2019, buy an M2 16” MacBook Pro. You really should upgrade.
lmao everyone should just host the show
Regarding the colour matched magsafe cable, the white colour of the usb plug is intentional and by design. It matches the typical white colour of an Apple power adapter which the USB plug is inserted in.
Me either, I went from an intel mac to m1 MAX and it's great. I'll upgrade when it can do 5120x1440 at 120hz without colorwash and has face id
i’m definitely thinking about upgrading to either M1 or M2 pro because i’m still on an intel macbook pro.
Feel sorry for you but you will be amazed with how much better the M series is.
m1 pro still good enought
I have M1 MacBook Pro since launch, been 3 years now, and still runs like new
I'm on Intel MacBook too, but I got to use M1 Max Pro at work and it's a huge upgrade. Depending on what you normally do on your machine, you may not need to get an M2.
Or if you want an M2, perhaps check out the $599 M2 Mac mini? I'm considering getting it.
Has anyone notice slowdown with Photoshop and Premiere with the M1 recently? It’s becoming almost unusable
I have the studio ultra and it's great, but I feel like there's no point in an M2 Mac Pro, they should just wait for the M3, do the ultra thing at 3nm.
Any coffee recs Andrew?
Question is: do I get the M1 Pro or the m2 pro ? Currently I have neither….
My guess is Apple odd number M-series chip will be the big revisions and the even numbered versions with be the minor updates. The typically Apple user doesn't understand the chip world and things don't move as fast as the software world can. When designing and making chip mistakes are very expensive and time consuming to fix even chip manufacturing things go wrong and that why you hear about "binned" chips in computers. Designing and making chips is nothing like designing computers using 3rd party chips and developing software.
This is a great new channel. Love having all you guys together just chatting away. Almost like ASMR.
I literally watch these clips for the outro
I'm still using the 2014 13 inch MBP
If you waited to upgrade your Intel-based Macbook Pro now is the perfect time to buy Macbook Pro M2 Pro. Honestly you don't need Max chip! Just go for M2 Pro and you are good to go for next 5 years.
for me, m1 pro works miracles!
i am keeping my MacBook pro 16" M1 Pro for at least 4-5 years, then i will get M4 or M5, or whatever will be in the future..
unless....
i can sell my m1 pro laptop for a good price, add few hundred $ and get M2 :DD, or even M2 Max!!... jeezzz its tempting..