What's So Great About the M3 MacBook?
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- With Marques out this week, Andrew and David sit down to talk about everything from ChatGPT being added to Boston Dynamics robots to the new (and kind of confusing) Apple M3 laptop lineup! This episode a shorter one, but still a fun one. Hope you enjoy!
Edit: So for everyone commenting about David's frame rate we have an answer! Kind of. Dropping in the iPhone footage to the beginning threw off the settings, but only for David's angle. Sorry about that!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
02:34 Boston Dynamics Spot
07:30 EU vs Instagram
15:42 Honor 6
19:45 Trivia
20:16 Wix (Sponsored)
20:57 New M3 MacBook Pro
46:30 Trivia
46:54 Wix (Sponsored)
48:04 M3 iMac
51:49 Apple BTS
56:43 AI Executive Order
01:02:56 Trivia Answers
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New Honor 6: bit.ly/honorphone
Meta vs EU: bit.ly/metavseu
M1 Tweet Storm: bit.ly/M1TweetStorm
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first time since august 2019 that marques has missed an episode. wow. it took representing his nation to take the man out 💪🏽
He was just hiding from the GTR comments haha
One of the last episodes he missed too right?
He wasn’t here last week also….
@@paintpaintpaintco.6039 he was not in "How does AI actually work" but that was because it was completely hosted by David. he wasn't supposed to be part of that episode at all. he has never missed any episode till now. even when episodes were twice a month and even after the schedule became weekly. he's always been here.
@@NetvoTV "How does AI actually work" was hosted by David and it was not a regular episode and also not supposed to have Marques in it. he's not missed a regular episode ever before this.
With Marques out, this would have been the perfect episode to talk about classic gaming consoles 😂
lol yeah. NGL Marques knowing next to nothing about video games is the biggest let down. Idk why, but it just is for a tech tuber but fair play
i was not expecting david to not know what AF1s are💀
I vote for Ellis to do ad reads for all future episodes. Amazing job on the Wix ad.
💯
Came here to say exactly this - the man is a star! 💯
Same. Ellis doing the Wix ad break was incredible 💯
He did really great , thanks for your comment.
MacBook Airs and iMacs are always announced in June because they’re targeted to students who get them by September. MacBook Pros are usually announced in September/October because that’s when companies use up their budgets and determine what next year’s budgets will be.
OR…the real reason is to capture the holiday shopping season and round out their product sales portfolio.
Lol, the GTR acknowledgement from Marques was very wholesome!
you guys have officially become a part of my Friday routine 😂 even my neighbour knows i listen to waveform every friday (maybe cause i use his wifi )
bruh
LMAO
😂😂😂
Use a VPN.
Are you in a building or your neighbor has overkill fast wifi?
You guess it, guys! :) It's Friday, It's WVFRM notification, Its the weekend in the UK
That burn Ellis did at the end have me rolling on the ground 😂😂😂😂😂
David sounding like a boomer when talking about shoes. 😂
Black shoes...air forece 1s....does marques wear those.
Marques does not have black air force energy, and the fact that this was unintentionally implied makes that whole segment my favorite part of this episode.
I think it was a basketball shoe thing. They don't know what air force energy is, at least he didn't when he asked that question.
how fast Andrew does the outro will always be hilarious 😂
As a maxed out M1 Max power user (Commercial director who is frequently editing intensive footage), I still have no reason to upgrade. My machine is a beast for what I do, and I foresee it keeping up for years to come. It's great that Apple is improving on their silicon, but seriously, they made an incredible product out of the gate and there's little reason to upgrade if you already own a high end M1 device.
tru dat
I have a normal full M1 MBP and still no reason to update for my workflow without any planned obsolescence trickery.
You will soon. Your SSD TBW will eventually depleted, especially in heavy editing environment.
@@anita.b not having the ability to upgrade the ram or ssd is their trickery. And if somewhat 5 years later most M1 still alive, they will unleash second trick, which is software block. classic apple.
How much did you pay for it when you got it maxed out?
I could tell from David's intro that this was going to be a great episode!
Came here as a podcast listener just to say, “you fooled me!” I went back and listened to it after and it’s noticeably not Marquez. But there’s enough resemblance that my brain fell for it in the moment
I cannot believe David & I share the identical story of asking our moms to sign & mail a waiver to allow us to use Neopets 😂😂
🤝
I am totally with Adam.. The touch bar was awesome indeed.. Have it on my M1 Mackbook pro and i use it daily...
until it malfunctions and breaks
@@Shzl47 Sounds like "yeah smartphones are great until you break your screen"
Like okay what sort of a point is that
@@anita.b but breaking your screen is physical and you can fix. How do you fix the bugs (as a user) of that touch bar
@@anita.b I was talking about the touch bar bugging out and being unresponsive. What smartphone touch screen just stops working? And also, even if that happens, it's a straight-forward fix that most people understand.
David is such a Boomer 😂. Keep it up!
The intros are becoming my favorite part of the show! 😂
I always enjoy watching these. Great job guys!
I fully agree with Adam. The touchbar is really overhated. Most people hate it because others hate it
It was also very very undercooked. And had so many bugs that were barely fixed
Before i upgraded to M1 max, mine never had problems@@ru2225
I can't wait to get to the intro part of the episode. I literally only noticed the silver piece on the laces in like the final shot of him and thought I was seeing things or like there was no way he was wearing them so confirming that for me off the bat is spectacular
Another awsm ep, thanks ❤
Also, loved the Linus Penguin ref. Took me back to my college days and I actually drew a nifty little armored penguin for my dept head who was hardcore Linux 🖤
Missing Marques here... But you guys did good holding the fort ..😄
Love how auto correct / chat gpt corrected "Ok Cupid" to "Occupied"
The M3 caching thing is about the onchip memory not on the SoC that really fast memory is only a few megabytes big and has nothing todo with the amount of normal memory (8 to 128gig). The reuse of that smaller cache can have a huge effect on performance since any freed memory there will mean a thread doesn't need togo to normal memory.
Did Marques get new glasses? Something looks different about him today.
When David ask if Marques wore black air force ones was hilarious...lol
I actually laughed out loud when David said "I'm Marques" in the intro
I didn’t get fooled but I didn’t catch that David said I’m marques until he said and I’m David at the end
18:34 - any Apple device that has Face ID has a toggle for attention aware features. This basically uses the Face ID sensors to check if you’re looking at your device or not. If you are, the display won’t time out.
that's sounds like a very useful setting
18:35 For what it's worth the modern pixel phones do this too, you have a toggle in the display settings to keep the screen on if it recognises you're looking at it.
Same with Samsung 😄
Same with iPhone …
I think you guys need to build a master timeline for releases. But timelines are just something I love.
More David is always welcome
More Andrew is always welcome
Andrew and Ellis show would be fun!
18:50 Galaxy S4 also used eye tracking to pause videos when you looked away and resume when you looked back. super wild stuff.
Andrew missed a great opportunity to answer "The Honor System"
It’s fun that the episode is an hour long yet indicated as short in the description
Shorter=/=short. Relative vs absolute makes a huge difference in the comprehension ;)
0:10 Tim Cook with Black Airforces is CRAZY. Man woke up and chose violence lol
Sad Marques isn’t here goodluck to his game tho
Podcast for the drive home today! Yay
FINALLYYYYY! love you guys❤
Congrats to Marques! representing your country is amazing! :)
Representing us black
@@ANSIPHD it’s for team USA but I guess you’re not wrong
David doesn't have the same timbre as Marques but he has a similar cadence.
I’ve always speculated that to be it as well
When the cat’s away… 😅 I don’t think I previously appreciated the marshalling Marques does to keep it tight. A fun show though. Love that OK Cupid became “Occupied” on the title slide.
Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
Thank you Marques for acknowledging the GT-R 😂 When I heard your take I knew the comments would snap back. Maybe get the 2024 GT-R on Autofocus? 👀
Touchbar is def gonna be back with the redesign and function keys lol
Ooooo dark apple park!!!!
People exited at that would LOVE my bus route😂
The Pixels use the front camera to see if you're looking at the screen as well
I'm sure this isn't going to be a common sentiment but having an episode where David and Andrew have more space to talk is amazing. I like Marques a lot too but it's just a refreshing change for this week. :D
You’re welcome Marques.😘 Glad we could educate you on the GT-R.
David should use the 2 microphones to sell it.
I think the memory bandwidth change isn’t binning so much as they’re saving money reducing the transistors dedicated to the memory bus by maybe eliminating a controller or channel (3 controllers instead of 4). Probably all the devices with memory in multiples of 3 don’t need 4 controllers. Apple did the same with SSD controllers in the Studio iirc.
David is the one person from this podcast I can see myself hangout with. He's so cool. I could actually imagine a double date that consists of my girlfriend and I with his girlfriend and him.
What you all missed about the whole "Meta/Facebook paid free ads topic" was that's it's mainly about privacy due to privacy directives in the EU.
The whole spiele about it being about ads is the angle Meta wants us to focus on.
The free tier has ads, but also collects a LOT more of your data. You're prompted to accept this and can't use your account until you've made a choice, with the only other option being that you have to get the paid version.
Are they going to get review units early? I can’t remember if that’s just for the new iPhones or not
For that extra 200,
More screen + XDR 120 Hz ProMotion + 1600 Nit HDR MiniLED display + better speakers + fan + ports + powerful adapter
Ellis, this is the best you can get for $200
58:45 I think you’re referring to Backdoor attacks where images in the training dataset of ML models get injected with “triggers” which are just some type of small patch of pixels. The injected images are then intentionally mislabeled to cause the model to make invalid predictions for those types of images. Basically, it makes the model behave as normal unless the trigger is present which causes the image to be wrongly classified in the case of image classification. The same thing could probably be replicated for generative models like stable diffusion or even an LLM.
The thing is a malicious actor needs access to the dataset to leave the “Backdoor” open within the model, but that’s usually not the case with commercial AI models because a lot of safety nets are put in place to prevent these types of attacks from happening.
I’m with Adam on the older Pro touch bar, I feel like it had so much potential!
I believe that the dynamic catch will become important while using ray tracing.
I think it was because it was midnight in the UK which is supposed to be the time reference. That’s why the hour was wired in the states.
yeah, i tried the 60,90,120 hz test with my and my friends phones and yes you can tell the difference
Meta and EU: I really don't mind the ads on browsable platforms. The really annoying ads are the ones on video services like RUclips and Twitch, because they completely cut into your focus.
Here in Europe we also watch your show. This was the first Apple event I didn't watch PiP in a long while.
Not a B-mic in sight on the studio team! great job holding it down you guys while Marques was away. one of the funniest episodes in a minute 🩵💙
What is a b mic
When he said "good evening," I could feel nurds around the world cheeseing.
Regarding the time of the Apple event - don’t forget the UK and Europe! It was midnight for us, so any later would be way too late 🤣
I know it's kinda unrelated but I am thinking of buying new headphones that I want to use for both gaming and travel so basically general use and I am not sure what to go for, I was thinking maybe the XM4 or the QC35, can anyone help me and give me a couple recommendations for different price points? and things like that.
33:40 If the bus width is smaller it's probably just because the die is smaller. No one has tested the new macs so hard to say, but I would assume it's not going to impact performance basically at all.
I like that Apple’s progressing on the gaming front! I’d consider a MacBook as a viable gaming option once it has a display with low pixel response times.
Its theoretical at this point. Hasnt happened yet or might not.
I'm Marques, I'm David haha! :)
I knew a guy who was paralized once and he had a tablet he controlled 100% with his eyes. He was losing his ability to talk so this was an option that he was learning to use for when he couldnt use voice control. This was as far back as like 6-7 Years ago. Had it hooked up to a TV or projector even.
this introductory music is so fire ngl
Still rocking a late 2011 mbp. I will be updating to m3
I love David's jacket!! I want one, where is that from??
I'm still on an an intel based MacBook Pro. But I'm not entirely sure I'm gonna upgrade this time around... I'm curious how Intel's meteor lake CPUs are gonna turn out later in December.
You should really consider upgrading to the to the M1 MBP next December though, by then I would imagine the prices for them would even be lower and for the pure performance it will be worth it, even next year, which would make the M1 Pro,3 years old(?), it will be a powerful laptop rivaling the performance of a lot of the other stuff that is out there. But of course, if you don't need all of that performance, it's never worth it.
That Marques sound bite needs to be a permanent addition to the soundboard.
All I can say is that this is lining them up for a pretty big spring event tbh. There is still a bunch of Mac's that never got updated this year and they really never touched the iPad's this year with some of them really needing upgrades.
The Neopets thing reminded me so hard of Webkinz and how I definitely lied about my age, which in hindsight is probably weirder since it was a 35 year old playing online with stuffed animals
Just replayed the start and closed my eye. haha yeah I can actually hear how they sound a bit alike
Having the black model only on the higher end might be due to costs. I might be wrong but doin black anodized aluminum might be more expensive process. Next year will be on lower models. And also yes what you said... "Look I got money" lol
David not know if the Air Force 1 are popular or not is where I want to he in life!👏
HOLD UP! Not even 5 minutes in and now AI is being added to robots?? This came much sooner than I thought.
At times I be having this video on while folding clothes or whatever and hear Marques contradicting himself, check and then realised it was David
Greatest podcast opening I've seen. 😂
00:20 Poor Marques, already getting roasted 💥
1:05:27 David got absolutely obliterated 😢
Sad not to see Marques there but the "Oops" replacement is pretty good 😂
Maybe they are going the iPhone route, like for eg - Base Iphones on the last year's SOC's.
Similarly for base MacBook Air series, they might use last generation M2 still and maybe M3 MacBook Air comes out when M4 MacBook pros and Max come out, just a thought 😅
Watching from Bangladesh. Much Love.❤
Just started the episode... what's going on with the air con? David's sitting there in his coat while Andrew is wearing a T-shirt 😂😂
best tech podcast.
Speaking of people not buying M2 as much as M1 (Around minute 26:00)
I just switched to Mac, and found an amazing deal for an M2 Mac Mini with the full-size touchID keyboard, trackpad, and mouse. All black/dark versions, all current-gen, for $550!
Later learned, using a SMART reader, that the SSD only has 26 hours of power-on time! Meaning the whole system is practically brand new!
Seller said they thought they'd use it more, but they pretty much only used their iPad. It did have about 100 power-on events, according to the SMART data, but they BARELY used it. Gah I'm so happy with the luck I had in this find!
It's making me even happier with the switch from Windows xD
Bought the Mac on Tuesday last week. Finished installing Ventura after their delayed reset (Risky, but hey I knew where they lived I guess) that night. Once confirmed it wasn't locked or whatever, I set it up on my main monitor, and started taking apart my PC.
It's now Friday, and I've got it setup with a VESA mount on the back of my monitor. And my PC is in pieces, prepping for Craigslist listings xD
I already knew I was gonna like the trackpad, as I've used the 1st gen trackpad a few times on my brother in law's iMac. Gonna use it like 99% of the time x'D
The keyboard.. I'm trying it out. So far it's alright, but I hate not having easy features to orient myself on it. I've had numerous times where I go to type something, and my hands are off by one key to the left or right. Besides that, it's acceptable to me. I can type mostly without messing up (as in, the much lower travel compared to a mechanical keyboard. And the flat-ish nature of it)
I don't plan on ever using the magic mouse, but I'll hang onto it. Gonna sell it if I don't use it within the first few weeks.
Wait, what was that clip at the end of the episode?
Occupied instead of OKCupid is a beautiful typo.
where are chapter I can't see them in RUclips web app
Pixels have face orientation for auto rotation, which feels like a spin off of the keep awake feature
wave form, my Friday routine
oh stop copying comments
*Constructive Feedback*
Thanks for another waveform podcast team, held it together without your star player but still enjoyable!
For what it’s worth I love listening to the podcast about all the news happening in the tech world that I do not have the capacity to keep up with. But I have just noticed in the last few takes/weeks there have been some inaccuracy or lack of knowledge about what I would think is an obvious fact to you guys in this industry. Would love to see more takes and discussion where people are knowledgeable on the matter. Case example of the attention feature on pixel, Samsung and iPhone (still exists but was reported at “18:30” that its a past feature) and the discussion about cars and Nissan GTR last week.
You guys are awesome love listening to the banter. Let’s make sure we also ensure you cover your bases on knowledge before discussing to your million of viewers who may take your perspective as reality of the facts. Hope this helps and keep up the great work team! 🙌
Shout out to RDC 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🫡🫡🫡🫡 21:34