Benjen Stark Knew The Truth About EVERYTHING? - Game of Thrones Season 8 (End Game Theory)
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2018
- Welcome back for another Game of Thrones video. Today I want to talk about our favorite uncle, Benjen Stark. He wasn't just a man of the Night's Watch. He was also the brother of Ned Stark and Lyanna Stark; two very important characters in this story. We meet Benjen Stark in the very first episode, when he arrives in Winterfell for King Robert's feast. When he gets there, he has a conversation with his nephew, Jon Snow, and Jon talks about joining the Night's Watch immediately. This conversation is the basis for one very popular theory, which is, did Benjen Stark know the truth about Jon Snow's parents? We are led to believe Ned Stark kept this secret his entire life, but could he have told his brother? I also want to talk about a few scenes with Benjen and Bran Stark. After Benjen saves Bran and Meera, he says a few interesting things that could reveal how much he really knew. We don't know what Benjen was doing during all those years he spent beyond the Wall. His men were found in the first season, so what could he have been doing that whole time? We know the children of the forest saved him, by plunging dragonglass into his chest, just like the Night King. When you combine that, with the fact that Benjen has Stark blood, or the blood of the First Men, this could have given him some very special abilities. Was Benjen Stark in constant contact with the children of the forest, or did he have his own access to the weirwood net? Let me know your thoughts or opinions on these topics. Thank you for watching the video!
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He knew the ending to season 8, that's why he killed himself.
Lmaoo ahahha
I'm dead lmao
Lol phucking mint 👌
Hahahaha
😂
Just realised how tragic Ned and Benjens lives really were
I know! Sucks grrm will never finish before his heart gives out. He's on borrowed time already
all their lives are tragic tbh
Oh no! That’s not good. I believe he needs to be a huge part of the spin offs or they’ll be awful. This show was so amazing. I feel like nothing competes with it
Ned was devastating
Shows you sometimes doing the right thing don't pay off
The way he talked to Jon... he DEFINITELY knows Jon truth.
This guy always shows up at the right time so I believe he knew everything and had his own access
To?
@@deborahstruve2901 the weirwood tree that Bran used
Who
Agree
Oh..i thought u gonna say "internet" :|
He wanted john to join the nights watch. That way he would be safe. Definitely his favorite nephew. No coincidence
Yeah being stabbed in the heart is really safe but I feel u
@@jinxflow8934 how else could “his watch end” at the wall, with honor, and eventually become the king in the north? His station was essential to defeating the night king, who would have overrun the wall and the watch, easily… I guess it depends on what is meant by “safe”
They could’ve made three full seasons with all these stories. God I’m still pissed
💯
2 years later I’m still morning the death of GOT
Y'all should check out some of those theoretical endings. That's how I've coped. Lol... There's also a kinda "hypothetical season 9" (which I've only got, like, 3 episodes into so far) that's shaping up pretty good as well. Just pretend that the last thing you hear is how it ended. ;-)
He looks at Jon like he’s his dead sisters kid too you can tell he doesn’t look at any of the other starks like he looks at Jon
"other starks" are his brothers kids, he should love them too.
only Caitlyn stark.
@@whoknows8636 but at that time Ned was alive, Lynna was not so it was more bittersweet to have a living reminder of a dead sibling but not be able to reveal it to him or anyone else
@@whoknows8636 Doesn't mean he doesn't. He was closest to Lyanna though.
More ironic how Jon is the most like Ned
I wish George could make books on every storyline, every history, every person :( this world he created is INCREDIBLE and I swear I want to learn the histories as if they were real
Facts. I want to read more about the First Men and the Children of the Forest.
Me tooooooooo
I want a series, movie or mini series
Robbert’’s Rebellion
The Kingswood Brotherhood
Aegon Targaryen’ Conquest
The Kinsguard ( Life of all popular and greatest kingsguard
The Greyjoy Rebellion
Doom of Valyria
The Long Night
Young Tywin and Ares ||
Oberyn’ Adventures
The most famous tourneys
Eddard Stari
I want him to finish the original 8 books first
I want to believe that it may have been real. If you want me to believe in dinosaurs which there his proof, then I believe it's possible there may have been dragons
Jon and Ben seem to have a different relationship compared to the other stark children I think he knew
Everyone had a different relationship because they thought he was a bastard. But I see what you mean though and I like to think he knew too
Yes, he seems to love on Jon more than the others. Says alot!
I think it had more so to being the least important son in their view. Benjen's brother was heir to Winterfell and his father was lord but they died and then his second oldest brother being lord of Winterfell. All these men who had a much greater relevancy may have been what lead him to join the Nightswatch because unless Ned dies, his name and ancestory means nothing. That's similar to Jon, although not being the youngest, he is absolutely the least relevant of what at the time seemed to be the Lord of Winterfell's son. He would likely never be Lord and he was also thought to be a bastard which packed more power to the punch probably. I think they both struggled with finding a place in their home where they seemed to have little purpose which is why they were eager to join the Nightswatch where they would have a greater importance.
@@ChrisM-dx8up love your response
Yeah, so because everybody seeing him as a bastard, Ben HAD to know. Through this he would be a fair ally to Jon.
Hate it when people say that John is only half a Stark. If that's the case, everyone else is half a Stark too since Catelyn has Tully blood and not Stark blood. So, John would be half Stark and half Targaryen and the others half Stark half Tully.
I agree with your opinion. Most people think this way because of conception. It is the lie to prevent the true Heir to the Iron Throne from joining the Night King and fulfiling his destiny at his side like the diciples of Jesus fulfiling theirs. When you have been resurrected from the dead in time to come. You will either serve Jesus like those who serve the Night King or try to join those who wont accept you because you have been resurrected and they believe what is dead stays dead. Where are you Jesus (or should i say where are you Night King).
Well, he is a Targaryen. The succession law in GoT and the middle ages is stronger by the father's bloodline. There are exceptions when some men would claim titles and lands from their mother's bloodline but when you send your daughter or sister to marry other clan she becomes part of it and her kids are seen as the other clan.
This is the way that I see it. When a child is born, naturally the child takes the last name of the father. So all the Ned's kids: Sansa, Arya, Bran, and etc are Starks because this is their father's last name. Jon Snow is a Stark on his mother's side but the birth name he was given was Aegon Targaryen, by the household name he is a Targaryen, yes a Stark on his mother's side but Jon will forever carry the household name Targaryen and not Stark. This is just my interpretation and the only reason how I can justify him saying Jon is half-Stark.
@@alexandrialundborg682 I completely understand your point, and accept it. However, all the other "Stark" kids only have 50% Stark blood. Besides, Jon has more Stark traits than he does Targaryen.
Noel & Jessica At this point it is not about traits, it’s the house name and the lineage he is carrying on which is Targaryen, not Stark.
7 months later and NONE OF THIS MATTERED🙃
People saying we are upset because we didn't get what we want! OR perhaps the years of plot wasted. Jons heritage meant nothing. Absolutely nothing. It was the biggest plot short of the 3 eyed raven/knight king. Not to mention the prince that was promised meant nothing. Gendrys plotline meant NOTHING.
Basically the biggest situations we followed for years meant NOTHING. pretty decent reason to be upset if you ask me.
@@sarah-annecarney7552 boo boo read the source material. You don't need endless cock jokes of the show to enjoy the real story.
@@Kryynism I have read the books so far. I see the novels and the show as completely separate entities. Plot lines are different from cock jokes. But you are entitled to your opinion.
It does if you just watched or are watching the show...many still do via streaming
@@acer4237 the show is a joke homie. Read the books.
Everyone knew everything. Only Jon snow knew nothing 😂
he must be Jon "doesn't" Snow
You know nothing Jon Snow
He did know some things. ;-)
@@briahnakidd1214 dragons mother body 😏
@@briahnakidd1214 Muh Queen and I dun won't it.
I think Ned did tell him, or maybe Lyanna told him herself about her secret relation with Raegar since they were so close. Either way, he knew and that explains why he loved Jon so much and also why he kinda put the idea in Jon's head to take the black, so he could be untouchable even to Robert if he ever found out about his true lineage.
From the very start of the season 1 i really felt the close relationship between jon and his uncle ben. I even thought that jon was ben's favorite nephew.
I agreed in your theory that Ben knew the truth about jon 😊
wow this is fkn spot on! thats exactly what happened! Bran was ready and waiting for the Night King in the end...
Exactlyyyyy
Its allmost as if the directors directed their own show!
And Arya was in the godswood waiting on an a frame ladder... so that's what littlefinger meant about ladders.
Wooow..maybe bcoz the script says exactly the same..? 🤔
Ned Stark's promise to his dying sister, Lyanna, was more than just about keeping Jon Snow a secret. It was also about protecting him (an even bigger responsibility). Westeros was an even more dangerous place at the time. Ned had to have known that if something happened to him, Jon would truly be alone and in danger. So he had to have told the only other person he completely and totally trusted - who he also knew loved his sister and family honor. He told his brother Ben. They were the only two remaining Stark men at the time, and he knew his promise would need to pass to his brother Ben (should Ned die). The only other person who would have known was Howland Reed, Ned's best friend who was with him at the Tower of Love. Howland Reed is the father of Jojen and Meera Reed, who had helped and saved Brandon get beyond the Wall and get to the Blood Raven. Do you think this was a coincidence? I think not. Not at all. Jojen had visions too, and I'm sure his father Howland Reed knew the meaning and importance of those visions (at least the Jon parts). So he must have told his kids that they needed to be ready for this Brandon Stark when the time came. I can't wait to see all these "unknowns" be unwrapped and finally answered. Which adds even more meaning to the phase "You know nothing, Jon Snow." It has much more significance and meaning, than just a quick witted, flirtatious phrase from a flaming ginger. Nice.
Precisely
Everything makes sense! Thanks for ur post :)
What an extraordinary read 👏
I agree with everything u said except the realm being an even more dangerous place when Lyana died bc well obv the fact that the WWs and whites are there now makes it quite a bit worse than it ever could have been in the past 1000 yrs
Heather R Hodge there was a huge war happening because she was meant to marry Robert. Any child that was Targaryen would of been killed the second they were found. So it was a lot more dangerous than it was after Roberts rebellion and before the WW came on the scene
the full quote is "blood of the covenant is thicker than water of the womb." meaning that the relationships we choose are more meaningful than those we are born into.
That’s not actually true, it is just something that started spreading on the internet and people believed it without actually looking it up. Blood is thicker than water is the correct saying
That is an opposite saying lol
The full quote is actually"Blood is thicker than water... But cum is thicker than blood"
Remember that when dealing in life, lol
6:40 that music (transition from baby jon to "king in the north!" jon gives me more chills than a week beyond the wall
I tried to line that up right lol
Same! I love that music
What song is it
Laurens Woodshop the stark theme
@@TalkingThrones u did great 💞
Ever hear of the Bael the Bard theory, that Rhaeghar and Lyanna were hiding in the crypts of Winterfell for a good amount of time and Benjien knew of it. They later end up in Dorne and this could explain how Benjien ended up at the wall, with Ned finding out that he knew and that it cost his brother and father their lives.
bengen knew about jon ned could always trust his blood
Thank you for shedding light on the beloved Uncle Ben. I’ve always wanted to hear more of his story on the show. I totally missed the scene of him explaining his survival! Great highlight.
Watching this has convinced me to go back and watch it all from the beginning again. I have a feeling there'll be a lot of dialogue and plot points I overlooked/misunderstood/ignored at the time, that will now make a lot more sense.
The whole series has been extremely underrated in recent years. The overall story, though rushed at points, remains rock solid and amazing.
That F Bomb was unexpected lol
Whoops lol
Lol “not classy” that’s a little silly but ok to each there own hahaha
@LindLTaylor X you're a square, and i'm writing down your name rn
lmao
I died laughing when I heard it!
Even if he knew about everything DnD just kinda forgot that they knew that he knew what they knew.
get the F over it. please.
Good point. I'm surprised that had not crossed my mind before. I totally agree , Benjan knew.
Which point?
It's no coincidence he always shows when needed North of the wall.
Yes, Benjan knew about Jon's mother. He probably knew about his sister's wedding because he was very close to her.
The question is what ultimate powers will Benjan have?
Katon gokukiya no jutsu
Your theory does make sense, why would Ben knew Bran vision about the Night King. So Ben must know everything including Jon true identity. Thumb up
I think this a credible theory. He seemed to know about Bran and Meera needing help, and Jon needing help...so it makes sense that he has connections with the Weirwood Net, Bran, and even the NK. I really hope we see him again( in the books if not the show).
How's that book coming? Is George on 10+ years of writers block still lol.
I think he knew. From everything you just pointed out, it just makes sense. He was close to Lyanna and I don't think Ned would have wanted Benjan living with the understanding that she was killed as consequence of rape. That's a sad memory.
Every stark is half Stark... Not only Jon. Arya, Sansa and others are half Tully. Even Ned is half Stark :D
But their last name is more than just "last name", Stark is something that you can't take just half of it. You are fully Stark or you are not Stark at all :D
Joffrey and his siblings are full Lannisters. Much like most targaryens.
Thats not how it works. There is no half this and half that.
You are what your father is. If your father is a Stark then you are a Stark, if your father is a Targaryan then you are Targaryan...
@@koklol2837 That's a rule and in terms of rules that's right, but when it comes to blood, then most targaryans are much more pure than starks of course. Most starks by now are like 1/200th part stark or so (over the generations)
Only Lanystars are full breed. If you know what i mean
That makes a lot of sense that Bengin knew a lot because he showed up right on time for Jon and Bran. He knew precisely where they were going to be and he saved them.
I've always wondered why Ned let his wife mistreat John i get he couldn't tell her the truth but i think he would have command her to respect John out of respect for his sister what do you think
Edward Adcock I think Catelyn's mistreatment of Jon, would be exactly what an observer would expect, if Jon were the product of infidelity. It thus provides excellent cover. And a bit of coldness and exclusion is better than being killed.
I totally agree
I can agree with that Jan i never looked at it as it's another way Ned protected John from everyone finding out his true parents thanks for your feedback
But why not tell his wife, she could have kept the secret right?
He was protecting them all, how much more convincing if Cat truly believed he was a bastard & was angry. If she knew - she would be kind to him - a woman of Cat's class wouldn't be kind to her husband's bastard if he was flaunted in her face. She even said, of course he should provide for the boy, but raise him in our home (not the exact words but you get the idea). Though you DO see - it seems in the North, more bastards raised & recognized by their fathers.... possibly Ned thinking it was more accepted in the North.. didn't realize Cat's reaction - it's not Jon's fault, she is very childish & cruel to treat a child badly because of her husband's mistakes. But this seems to be a good thing as it was a much more convincing (though sad for Jon & Cat - who both had to suffer) but kept them safe from King Robert"s wrath.
WILL WE EVER GET TO HEAR THE END OF TYRION'S JOKE.... I ONCE WALKED INTO A BROTHEL WITH A HONEYCOMB AND A JACKASS????
He was going to make sure he got some sweet a$$.
I always thought joke may be a foreshadowing that thought that even though the events are bittersweet (honeycombs are sweet, but a jackass in a bar has bitter results) for all the characters left alive, this story will have no end. Like Literally if GrrM doesn't stop the other projects to finish ADoS.
I found the rest of the joke on Instagram
Mentioned in the last episode of the series...still no conclusion!!!
From his statement to Jon in S1 when Jon made the request to join the night watch " you don't know what you will be giving up" it's obvious Ned had told him about Jon's true parentage.
Everyone knows everything, Jon Snow is the only one knowing nothing
Just wanted to thank you for keeping us all sitting on our nails till Season 8. Honestly thanks!! One day your last theory video is going to come out and then Season 8 will finally air. Man I can't wait!
I think he knew the whole time and I don’t think we have seen the last of him, if he’s like the knight king with dragon glass in his heart I don’t think it would be so easy to get rid of him.
I believe life goes on and history repeats itself, its just the cycle of life i guess and Benji Stark is the new Nights King i'm afraid, when the currant Nights King is dead, the long night ends. When Benji Stark transformation is completed, the children of the forest will set fourth in creating a new long night, WINTER IS COMING and will always come as long as the children can get their hands on Stark blood. The Children hates MAN and creating Nights King is the only way they can wage war. Hence why they saved Benji and left the rest for dead. This will always happen, think a little deeper, all Stark men are dead except Jon, Bran and Benji, We know that the currant Nights King is a Stark, Bran can't have babies, and Jon is about to restart the stark bloodline. They will kill the Nights King and then 100 generations later of Starks, Here comes BENJI
Best take on the show I’ve seen yet. Never put the pieces together as you have. Well done.
You mean crazy old Ben that lives over those dunes? Hrmmm
Haha 😄
Uncle Ben Jenobi
I love all the videos that you make of Game of Thrones. Can't wait for the next season to start. Its coming soon.
Baldomero D Morales I’m excited, but also sad. It’s the series finale. This has been the best show ever!!! I hate to see it end 😢
Your are the best. I'm always excited when that notification comes up. Thid theory really seems spot on...Love what you do!!!
Thank you very much. I'm glad you liked it.
He knew about Jon via Ned and knew about Bran via some form of communication with the Three-eyed Raven. There is absolutely nothing to suggest he has any of these powers himself.
Nobody:
Dragonglass: I GIVE THEM POWER
I love your video. I think you analyze the character in the narrative beautifully. I wanted to point out that I knew that cold hands would end up saving John snow. I predicted that. My friend had no idea who he was...but I knew. I was cheering him on the whole time! Anyways thanks for making a great video. It was very interesting! :)
Bejin knew about the magic at the wall and how white walkers can not pass. Bejin might also be a green seerer
Exactly what I was thinking. That dragonglass in the heart does some magical ish...
Why everybody didnt read any of books and have their own version of name writing?
@@DaemonBlackfyre2137 hahahahaha it's been bugging the hell out of me
Thank you for all the content. It is easier that way to handle the wait.
My pleasure, Mike! Thanks for watching them.
Very good video. I like the thinking of things out, especially the little hints and implied meaning of dialogue. Keep up the awesome work!
That intro gets me excited every time!!
As usual amazing thoughts , best story teller in the industry.....well done my friend, well done...
GREAT VIDEO TT!! He totally knew...in the 1st season clip..talking about going to wall, father no children...Bejin says "ah if you only knew what it meant" .. Which leads me to believe that he knew and knew how Jon's bloodline could impact everything... especially if he fathered a child. Just my thoughts...thanks again :)
Iam just wondering how are they gonna wrap all this questions in 6 episodes...
Exactly
They probably aren’t
Especially if my theory for the Iron Throne comes out to be true. I think it will be highly influenced by the Iron Bank and Golden Company (Bittersteel), maybe even the Faceless Men. We don't know much about any of the 3 and I don't think Bittersteel has been mentioned AT ALL so maybe he isn't even a part of the HBO series (~3-4 episodes to build and end his character arc?) even with his bloodlines. As for my opinion on these 3 entities playing a huge role, think of what clue we've been given. Two battle scenes left. Both HAVE to be against the Night King right? The big bad who has forced all enemies to come together to fight. He can't be finished in just one battle (although maybe Bran has a separate single combat in a different state or something with him and it's not a huge battle and doesn't count as the 2nd idk). But if this is the case, 2 battle against the Night King, we have assassinations and betrayals happening elsewhere. That leaves the Golden Company to betray and maybe the Faceless Men to assassinate whoever sits atop the throne in the dust and ending the series on a cliffhanger.
Maybe they will keep it super simple...
3*
I always wondered how he just happened to be in the right place to save Bran after Hold the Door, and again to save Jon from the white walkers after he was overrun beyond the wall…
Because he had visions too.
Too bad he didn't try and warn Jon about letting Daenerys ride her dragons over the wall.
Great stuff as always, man!
I have two brothers. Not to draw comparisons, but I'd definitely tell them if we had a secret nephew from a dead sister.
I love your intro with that classic, dramatic line spoken by Littlefinger!
Had never even thought about this. Great channel
He knew that having a CGI bear was more important to the writers than giving a proper send-off to his character.
Howland Reed knows the secret too. They better show him in season 8
He will, since the showrunners know the book readers will riot if he doesn't appear.
@@nickdentoom1173 It would be great if just one scene... Howland Reed walking in the Great Hall of Winterfell, followed by Ghost ;-) and just to save Ghost, they will then send him off with the Reeds to the Swamps.
if Howland doesn’t show up i lose all hope in everything i know
Wow you legit nailed this. It seems seamless what you’re proposing. Can’t wait for 4/2019!!
Dude I love u... And the way u keep ppl intrigued with ur vids is amazing...u never cease to impress me🤔
Great thoughts! So plausible. I just really hope that they clear this up a little in the final season. You are right that knowing Eddard, there is no way that he would not have told him brother and that's why he always kept a watchful eye out for John and how closer than to have him by your side at the wall.
And that’s why he went to the wall! I’ve been saying this since 99!
NICE
You've been following ASoIaF for 20 years? What a pain it must have been.
wasser30 to connect with Maester Aemon and keep him away from Robert?
Seriously? That must have been very aggravating.
Its been a long night for some...……………
Thanks for the review- so much to take in and analyze..
Love your videos from Canada!! Keeps the void filled and I love your insight!
I really liked this character! So glad I watched this...yes I think he knew and he cared for John especially. It also makes sense that he had access and was able to save both Brandon and John. I hope he reappears somehow.
😮🤔 Inever picked up on half of this in the series. Guess I wasn't paying close attention. Thanks for sharing. This information is really enlightening.
To be fair, this stuff is not picked up on from the show, but instead the books.
U can just tell the way he looks at Jon ...he knew
with great power, comes great responsibility
-uncle ben
I pretty much agree .... it always looked like he's just watching so whenever john or even bran with meera needed help he was ready to do it .. and as you said it's probably because he knew exactly how much of importance they'll become
Why they are important... the biggest question?
Why not danereys or his dragons?
Also, Rickon got the vision along with Bran that Ned was dead in the crypts, so there's a clear correlation between the younger Stark kids and visions.
So true Bran will be waiting ...
He is bait
Just a thought. Could they give Bran to the night king in exchange of sparing winterfell, and the people living in it? It worked with Craster didn’t it?
@@sumboi2321 Bran will live after Episode 3 so i guess there will be no trade :D
He is ready*.. maybe not as much bait as we think
This is the greatest show ever made. I’ll hate when it ends but please believe I’m preordering the complete box set and will binge watch it as often as possible.
Really interesting theory. The season just started and already people are hooked.
Just watched the show, I wish we had saw more of the Ned and Robert timeline, or even just more of them in general. I liked the dynamic those 2 had, the older, wise, deadly when need be, or atleast they once where.
This has been a fantastic video, Thank You. I am doing a bit of a catch up, love every video.
I watch your videos everyday. The best game of thrones channel on youtube hands down!
He definitely knew.. And it's very easily explained.. Brothers tell each other everything, it's a special bond
i feel like the stark are the most honorable family. The uncle knew the whole time. He protected john and there is a theory that the starks share blood with the ice walkers
i think the starks shares blood with the wildlings, and the white walkers are all crasters sons. so i think its true
Of course you feel this way, they were the protagonists
He knew what he needed to know then and he knows everything now. That’s how he shows up exactly when he’s needed
This video gave me goosebumps.. very well told, you was preaching the truth bro..
You are so smart!!! Everything you said makes perfect sense!!! I agree 💯😊✌
OMG! I wish i could kidnap you for a month to binge GOT DVDS with your explanations/versions after every episode...that would be epic!😉 You are Awsome!
Jennifer Baldini kidnapping is a felony
She's tryna smash, dude
Lolzzz
This is an excellent and insightful piece.
“Even tho Jon is only a half Stark” uhhh if he was full stark that would be a problem that would imply incest lol all Starks are half starks, The ones with the stark name we’re just born from a Stark male and Jon was born from a Stark female
While you might confide secrets with your spouse there are some things that you can't tell them. Siblings hold even more secrets with each other, when you trust them anyway.
Can we just take a moment to respect the character development in GOT though. Best series by far.
:')
Not anymore
Lmao say that again
@@skylana7463 lmao crazy how things change in a month.
Why does GOT make me so sad.
Thanks for this video . I love to watch it
Awesome video. And very, very well explained. It’s weir wood though, pronounced weer, not “wear” 😬👍🏻
Keep up the excellent work. I love this channel !
I agree that he knew, as others have said, he was close to Lyanna. It's too implausible that she didn't tell him what was going on. Or that perhaps she asked Ned to tell him when she was dying. I hope we see him again in the last season, he was a cool character.
dude seriously, these videos are the best!!!
Great video, thanks!! Uncle Ben....He definitely knew everything.
I think youare absolutely right about all of it.
What about Howland Reed? You mentioned in a previous video about "missing characters" that him and Ned were close, he was also there when Lyanna died, do you not think that he would know, and he could possibly be another person to confirm Jon's true history?
Such a great video never thought of it that way you definitely got my attention
Great job on all your videos!!! Cheers!!
never stop making these
Roger that
Howland Reed survived alongside Ned Stark when the Kings Guard along with "The Sword of the Morning" were dispatched and Ned went into the tower and found his sister and came back down with a newborn babe, right? He's gotta know the truth also, right?
Yes
Yes, Howland knows the truth also (I believe this is partially the reason why he doesn't come out off the Neck).
Jojen also knows because of his Green Dreams, but i think he has promised his father not to tell anybody (Not even Meera) and is the reason why Howland sent him and Meera to Winterfell.
That’s what I said as well ... so when does he come back and tell Jon
Isn't Howland Reed the guy who actually killed the guy in the Kings Guard that Ned got credit for and kind of got fame for killing him? If so then they probably had an understanding that they wouldn't tell each others secrets because Reed could have been killed for killing the Kings Guardsman the way he did, Reed struck him down from behind while he was engaged in a sword fight (an attack on the King's Guard is an attack on the king himself) but if Ned killed him during the sword fight it would have been fine because it was a face to face honourable fair fight. A man's Honor meant something during those times.
It also shows how easy it is for men to keep secrets from women.
Thanks for doing what you do!!