Jeez, as an old goth kid, the allusions to movies and goth cliches coupled with the solemn chanting made me really emotional in a good way. This is amazing.
@@loadeddice4696 I love youtube, someone left a comment six years ago on a fantastic song we all love, someone else commented FIVE years later and thanks to that I discovered a great band another year later. Thanks, the Sisters of Mercy are going on majority of my playlists now.
Are you saying that over-the-top goth isn't generally good? IDK, I guess maybe it says something about me that this is my favorite song on this album, haha.
@@ladyalfhildrforestofvioletmist I think your youtube name is more of a testament to your goth levels tbh (this is a friendly joke btw, I mean it in a good way!)
@@altoclef4989 Omigosh I'd never thought of my youtube name as goth before! Haha, it's just an overdramatic version of my first ever D&D character name. But thank you, it's kind of fun to be perceived as goth :) I do occasionally "dress goth" but it always feels performative when I do, but I certainly like the sound of the genre. Now I'm just thinking how Alfhildr the character would react to being called goth, haha. I mean she was a somewhat edgy chaotic neutral half-elf druid and she did try to feed a supposed ally to giant spiders once, but he was racist towards elves, so can you really blame her? Lol :)
I don't know much (read: anything at all) about Metal, but would it be the sort of thing to bring out his 'rage with the fierceness of a thousand suns' that, heck, has appeared even on his cover of Carole King's "One Fine Day?" Otherwise, Psalms 40:2, Craters of the Moon, See America Right, The Diaz Brothers, Werewolf Gimmick, Amy aka. Spent Gladiator 1, and so on...that sort of thing? I would be okay with that.
I love this album, the grimdark intro getting us into theme and then it hops into a soft jazzy tale of western Goth culture and it's upbringing It's such a fun listen through and through
No one knows where the lone wolf sleeps No one sees the hidden treasure in the castle keep (no, no no no) No one learns the secret name No one burns in the Absinthe flame (no, no no no) No one broke D B Cooper's fall No one hopes to hear the bag man call (no, no no no) Children piping in the main square But no one's dancing, no one's dancing down there (no, no no no.) The river goes where the water flows But no one knows when the Batcave closed The river goes where the water flows But no one knows when the Batcave closed No promise sweeter than a blood pact Nothing harder to go through with than a vanishing act No morning colder than the first frost No friends closer than the ones we've lost Nothing sharper than a serpent's tooth Nothing harder than the gospel truth Though you repent and don sackcloth and try to make nice You can't cross the same river twice The river goes where the water flows But no one knows when the Batcave closed The river goes where the water flows But no one knows when the Batcave closed There's a club where you'd like to go You could meet someone who's lost like you Revel in the darkness like a pair of open graves Fumble through the fog for a season or two No town more barren than our town No haven safer than the one they tore down No greater love than to lay my life down for a friend No sweeter pleasure than to see the credits clear through to the end No one knows where the lone wolf's gone No one sees it camped out right there on the front lawn We played for you but you would not sing No one was gonna get away with anything The river goes where the water flows But no one knows when the Batcave closed The river goes where the water flows But no one knows when the Batcave closed (please comment emendations where you spot them!)
@@Oh_I_Will You're right, I'm actually not really informed about modern songwriting. The comment above was about modern scene, of course :) I would appreciate any recommendations!
just saw them in Birmingham on Thursday, they were really good. and the drummer is like reallllly into it, I didn't realize how much work it is. needless to say I was sad they started the set with this song, I wanted it to be nearer to the end so I could anticipate it. My favorite song of theirs!
The Water in a River must always be different from when you last crossed it and so it is truly not the same river if you again cross it. The River is always changing.
No one knows if dirtier and downer we can go, no one knows if She Wants Revenge..but I do.. ...I dig this shit and all of it's influences and everything that will be influenced..BRING ON THE FUTURE of GOTH!!
J.J Jameson the line "there's a club where you'd like to go, you could meet someone who's lost like you" sounds like a reference to/paraphrase of how soon is now by the smiths, which says "there's a club if you'd like to go, you could meet someone who really loves you"
The river goes where the water flows: The way we become and the choices we make compound until it’s our new nature. No one knows when the bat cave closed: we learn danger and can act like we’re still there, even when we’re safe and there’s nothing to be running from.
i still enjoy this song and appreciate its rhetorical goals. however, i do not appreciate how language is devolving in 2024. its not going anywhere tho so i may as well strap in and suffer. if ur reading this from the future just know that there was resistance to the world you now live in.
It sounds great, but why is john so low in the mix? Wasn't sure if my speakers were screwed up at first, kind of hard to hear him over the instrumentals
001tarik1 i think the sounds separate out better heard out loud with good stereo...i think? familiarity with the lyrics helps pick his voice out better too. but yeah, likewise!
ok so just for the record if anyone is out there who needs to assemble a playlist to listen to for facial electrolysis and is wondering whether this is a good song to put on their playlist of songs to listen to while undergoing facial electrolysis, let me tell you: no. no it is not. i can confirm it is not a good song for that purpose. maybe go with This Year instead.
I want this song to open the new Robert Pattinson Batman movie. I don't give a shit if it's too on the nose and I have a feeling no one else would either.
I wish there was a version without the orchestral voices. They seem like they're off key EDIT: actually after a couple listens they've grown on me. Reminds me of Lovecraft in Brooklyn
i enjoy this song and appreciate its rhetorical goals. however, i do not appreciate how language is devolving in 2024. its not going anywhere tho so i may as well strap in and suffer. if ur reading this from the future just know that there was resistance to the world you now live in.
just to be clear, this is an immediate repost of a comment that i made earlier. i felt like this comment was important enough to be said twice. you may not cross the same river twice but i definitely made that fucking comment twice. anyways, good fortune in the wars to come.
This song is gonna come on while I'm driving and I'm gonna have to skip it cause this will literally make me start speeding lmao
Speed
You meant sleeping right?
Jeez, as an old goth kid, the allusions to movies and goth cliches coupled with the solemn chanting made me really emotional in a good way. This is amazing.
I really really really want them to make a whole album with this sound, I love Goths but this one song I need more of
Not especially the same sound, but the band Extra Life has a medieval punk sound to it.
Have you considered the Sisters of Mercy?
@@loadeddice4696 I love youtube, someone left a comment six years ago on a fantastic song we all love, someone else commented FIVE years later and thanks to that I discovered a great band another year later. Thanks, the Sisters of Mercy are going on majority of my playlists now.
@@loadeddice4696 Laughing Out Loud. You understand the concept of this album (which I love without irony)
jesus GOD this is so GOOD
hell yeah!
By the devil himself, you are right.
this is so over-the-top goth it becomes genuinely good
That's the point. They spend one song proving their goth-rock credentials, and then spend the rest of the album thoroughly deconstructing them.
Are you saying that over-the-top goth isn't generally good? IDK, I guess maybe it says something about me that this is my favorite song on this album, haha.
@@ladyalfhildrforestofvioletmist I think your youtube name is more of a testament to your goth levels tbh (this is a friendly joke btw, I mean it in a good way!)
@@altoclef4989 Omigosh I'd never thought of my youtube name as goth before! Haha, it's just an overdramatic version of my first ever D&D character name. But thank you, it's kind of fun to be perceived as goth :) I do occasionally "dress goth" but it always feels performative when I do, but I certainly like the sound of the genre.
Now I'm just thinking how Alfhildr the character would react to being called goth, haha. I mean she was a somewhat edgy chaotic neutral half-elf druid and she did try to feed a supposed ally to giant spiders once, but he was racist towards elves, so can you really blame her? Lol :)
even the over-the top cheesy lyrics fit. Yeah it could be silly but it all meant something to us. Makes me nostalgic as hell.
I am in love with this sound. Very different, yet I can still hear "The Mountain Goats" in it.
Kate Reynolds It's different but it doesn't feel out of place; maybe because each album usually has at least one song without guitar
The whole new record has no guitar on it!
this is a step toward the inevitable metal album JD will make at some point
Maybe 'The Best Ever Death Metal Band In Denton' was actually a glimpse into John's future
Joe Webb Nope. Glimpse into his past.
Hail Satan!
weird, because I hear that now that you say this, but my first thought was "man this is the closest to like Gospel that JD's ever gotten"
I don't know much (read: anything at all) about Metal, but would it be the sort of thing to bring out his 'rage with the fierceness of a thousand suns' that, heck, has appeared even on his cover of Carole King's "One Fine Day?" Otherwise, Psalms 40:2, Craters of the Moon, See America Right, The Diaz Brothers, Werewolf Gimmick, Amy aka. Spent Gladiator 1, and so on...that sort of thing? I would be okay with that.
i wish the whole album would be like this.......
I bought the album off of the strength of this track :(
My heart filled with a sick sort of joy at all of these minor chords. High praise.
I love this album, the grimdark intro getting us into theme
and then it hops into a soft jazzy tale of western Goth culture and it's upbringing
It's such a fun listen through and through
No one knows where the lone wolf sleeps
No one sees the hidden treasure in the castle keep (no, no no no)
No one learns the secret name
No one burns in the Absinthe flame (no, no no no)
No one broke D B Cooper's fall
No one hopes to hear the bag man call (no, no no no)
Children piping in the main square
But no one's dancing, no one's dancing down there (no, no no no.)
The river goes where the water flows
But no one knows when the Batcave closed
The river goes where the water flows
But no one knows when the Batcave closed
No promise sweeter than a blood pact
Nothing harder to go through with than a vanishing act
No morning colder than the first frost
No friends closer than the ones we've lost
Nothing sharper than a serpent's tooth
Nothing harder than the gospel truth
Though you repent and don sackcloth and try to make nice
You can't cross the same river twice
The river goes where the water flows
But no one knows when the Batcave closed
The river goes where the water flows
But no one knows when the Batcave closed
There's a club where you'd like to go
You could meet someone who's lost like you
Revel in the darkness like a pair of open graves
Fumble through the fog for a season or two
No town more barren than our town
No haven safer than the one they tore down
No greater love than to lay my life down for a friend
No sweeter pleasure than to see the credits clear through to the end
No one knows where the lone wolf's gone
No one sees it camped out right there on the front lawn
We played for you but you would not sing
No one was gonna get away with anything
The river goes where the water flows
But no one knows when the Batcave closed
The river goes where the water flows
But no one knows when the Batcave closed
(please comment emendations where you spot them!)
I think it's the Batcave rather than backend because it's referring to a club that influenced the goth scene
Rebecca Marshall i know nothing of goth (sub)culture. thank you!
No problem, I was going to add the lyrics below when I saw you'd already done it, anything to help.
Rebecca Marshall any suggestions for that section with the question marks? I'm still drawing a blank there :S
It's so hard to hear because of the interlocking vocals! Got nothing
John "Never Writes A Bad Song" Darnell
Darnell is a chump. I have done lot more, for lot less.
going to georgia tho < : /
Except for Athletes Foot but we don’t speak of that.
@@b.jamesfritzsche1151
I don't give a shit what John thinks of that song, it's a great song about a delusional man trying to impress someone
It’s Darnielle.
One of the hardest tracks of all time
on the verge of dropping the hardest edit to this
Do it
I believe The Mountain Goats is the best English-language band in terms of lyrics. This piece is absolute genius.
You don't listen to much...do ya
@@Oh_I_Will You're right, I'm actually not really informed about modern songwriting. The comment above was about modern scene, of course :)
I would appreciate any recommendations!
@@Divuar Try Shinedown
It's great to hear John shouting again. Going to see TMG in London on the 11th, last time was exceptional.
ok I didn't think I could admire John more than I already do... but that DB Cooper reference changed my mind
I'm so obsessed with this song.
I simply cannot stop listening to this
They opened with this in Seattle a few days ago. It was freaking amazing!
🧡 this vibe
Never heard this song before. It's great!
Probably my favorite song on the Goths album
I can't stop listening to this. It's so good!
just saw them in Birmingham on Thursday, they were really good. and the drummer is like reallllly into it, I didn't realize how much work it is. needless to say I was sad they started the set with this song, I wanted it to be nearer to the end so I could anticipate it. My favorite song of theirs!
I wish they had more songs like this
im diggin this
Hey man
Cyranek everyone is 😂
You are just everywhere
It always makes me happy when I see you on something sorta obscure I really like.
I'm high af right now and for some reason your comment filled me with joy,
Had to come here after being obsessed with the live solo version from 2019. That one is definitely faster and angrier sounding. Such a fun version.
can't wait for this to come out ....so goooooooooood
Such a good song.
One of the most interesting singles of 2017 so far!
The album art is a very powerful piece when viewed within context of the theme of the entire album.
what do you mean?
How has this been out for two hours and I'm only just listening to this
Mike Mckay how has this been out for months and I'm only just listening to it? O,.........,o
I'm listening in 2018, that's even worse. but I guess that there's a right time for everyone
Better late than never. But, of course, better soon than late.
Apparently none of you follow current, goings on, with them...or you would have heard it the day it was released
i LOVE this song. thank you KEXP!
Brilliant! So glad I chanced upon this.
With each new single I get more excited for this album. This is gonna be good.
i did it. i'm not sure whether or not i regret it yet.
The Water in a River must always be different from when you last crossed it and so it is truly not the same river if you again cross it. The River is always changing.
Wicked vibe 🤙
I squandered my youth at the Batcave.
omg hey there why hello there robin
So very excited by this.
They never stop. They never sleep.
goddammit... music of the year
this is so sick, I love it
No one knows if dirtier and downer we can go, no one knows if She Wants Revenge..but I do.. ...I dig this shit and all of it's influences and everything that will be influenced..BRING ON THE FUTURE of GOTH!!
Mike Loth "no one knows if she wants revenge" JOKE OF THE CENTURY
It was a "She want's Revenge" reference. this particular song reminds me of several songs by the band "She want's Revenge"
love the song
THIS IS LIT
Refreshingly good!
amazing
Reminded me of Sister of Mercy for some reason, very nice.
That was entirely deliberate. That album also includes a song titled "Andrew Eldritch is Moving Back to Leeds."
Always knew these guys were metal. Interesting to hear a more traditional song structure from them. Much better production.
Holy shit I can't wait to see this live.
Losing my shit at the Smiths reference, this is going to be one motherfucker of a song to see live
Purp Scurpington thought I was the only one who noticed!!
Purp Scurpington Pardon my ignorance,but what reference?
J.J Jameson the line "there's a club where you'd like to go, you could meet someone who's lost like you" sounds like a reference to/paraphrase of how soon is now by the smiths, which says "there's a club if you'd like to go, you could meet someone who really loves you"
Char I like the Smiths,but never noticed. Thanks,mate
Great song. Thxs.
God do I regret sleeping on this when it came out
It's like a reboot of In The Craters of the Moon. But better. Extremely better.
hey now, that song was fantastic.
Love at first listening
I am in god damn love
top stuff lads
Playing this song on vinyl at 33 rpm when it’s supposed to be played at 45 makes it sound soooo heavy
RMS MUSIC SOCIETY BEST SONGS OF 2017!
makes me think of 'Wolf in White Van' where hes talking about what if the wolf is out there in the back of some van somewhere,etc...
The river goes where the water flows: The way we become and the choices we make compound until it’s our new nature.
No one knows when the bat cave closed: we learn danger and can act like we’re still there, even when we’re safe and there’s nothing to be running from.
i first heard this on sirius XM and i was fucking amazed and entertained.
i still enjoy this song and appreciate its rhetorical goals. however, i do not appreciate how language is devolving in 2024. its not going anywhere tho so i may as well strap in and suffer. if ur reading this from the future just know that there was resistance to the world you now live in.
shoutout to my high school teacher who played this in class
This is fucking badass. Keep it up John!
Klawy kawałek.
woooooo
cool
This is a year late, but nice profile pic
There's a club where you'd like to go you could meet somebody who really loves you
The Smiths! I'm not the only one who thought that
i was looking for this comment
just realized he wrote wolf in white van and almost shat myself...read that book if you have not!
This song still destroys me when I hear it. It’s so good but it just aches.
Holy fuck, this is awesome! I'll definitely have to review this
The Album Surgeon ayyyy
I was here before a million views
Kind of reminds of Stabbed to death outside of San Juan. So good.
Swear I heard this in a dream before
Um, hell yes
Heavy
Is there an instrumental of this anywhere?
HOLY FUCKING SHIT 40000
It sounds great, but why is john so low in the mix? Wasn't sure if my speakers were screwed up at first, kind of hard to hear him over the instrumentals
001tarik1 i think the sounds separate out better heard out loud with good stereo...i think? familiarity with the lyrics helps pick his voice out better too. but yeah, likewise!
Its a normal trick to increase the perceived "size" of the song.
If you'd buy the album and listen in better sounding quality...u would be amazed at the difference...
Mountanthony Goatano
gladunny turnmeontudisno
internet's busiest melon head
At .75 speed, this gets spookier
William Smythe well, when you're right then you're right, and right here right now you're right
@@Andromansis how about now?
@@Bruh-ft2sh RUclips changed the sound encoding some time ago and now the magic is gone
is that GATED REVERB
I can say that it's definitely not ANY GUITARS
Can we get a musical or opera based on this
An "Oprah"...sounds like a Win-Free idea...
@@Oh_I_Will you know when you should proofread and then you dont
Sing this Corrosion!
0:37 no one broke DB Cooper's fall
I came here to listen this line
ok so just for the record if anyone is out there who needs to assemble a playlist to listen to for facial electrolysis and is wondering whether this is a good song to put on their playlist of songs to listen to while undergoing facial electrolysis, let me tell you: no. no it is not. i can confirm it is not a good song for that purpose. maybe go with This Year instead.
I want this song to open the new Robert Pattinson Batman movie. I don't give a shit if it's too on the nose and I have a feeling no one else would either.
epic af
🎵
I wish there was a version without the orchestral voices. They seem like they're off key
EDIT: actually after a couple listens they've grown on me. Reminds me of Lovecraft in Brooklyn
Goes pretty hard.
Especially lyrically.
Maybe I am Goth. lol.
John 3:16
🌹😎
0:56 no one knows where the bat cave closed...
I'm hearing a little Nick Cave in there somewhere.
A mix between The Mission and the Red Army Choir ?
"Uommene" remix by Franco Ricciardi has a similar sound... ("Gomorrah" soundtrack w/ Italian lyrics)
Running through Liurnia of the Lakes to this song
i enjoy this song and appreciate its rhetorical goals. however, i do not appreciate how language is devolving in 2024. its not going anywhere tho so i may as well strap in and suffer. if ur reading this from the future just know that there was resistance to the world you now live in.
just to be clear, this is an immediate repost of a comment that i made earlier. i felt like this comment was important enough to be said twice. you may not cross the same river twice but i definitely made that fucking comment twice.
anyways, good fortune in the wars to come.
take a drink every time someone sings no
tried that
died a little
weird over here