It is great to see you back Sam! We are all eager to get our Aptera. The early delays for Aptera were related to Covid, supply challenges, and funding. Funding remained the key constraint to production, but the combination of Accelerator funding and the upcoming U.S. Capital funding should put it over the top, and enable volume production to begin in 2025.
Unless you’re going through snow and have to forge 3 different tracks. But Aptera is really focused on efficiency, and it’s one of the things I really like about them.
Thanks for the video. It appears to me, that the project is massively underfunded. Development costs of new cars are typically in the billions. The crowdfunding total of something around 100 to 200 million USD is by far not sufficient to develop a new vehicle and create the production facilities. The YT videos of the production facilities also show that a lot of infrastructure to produce cars is not there. So in order to start the development of the production faciltiies Aptera needs to collect a couple of 100 millions USD. After that, they can start to build the factory, train and hire people, manage the business with all the suppliers, create a sales network etc. What I found out is that Aptera has 31 employees, net loss of 55 million USD (which is low when you start to develop a new car) and assets of a 37 million USD. So back to the question: When is Aptera going to deliver? Answer: T + 9 months. So when is T? Sometime in the future, when (or better if?) they have the funding. As of July 2024 Aptera doesn't know and hopes for the best. But Aptera is hoping to ship soon for years.
I do live in NM and all the angles are in fact perfect for sunlight. In fact, nearly all of the people who live in the southern half the US get enough sun to make solar not only worth it, but we could easily overproduce sunlight energy and sell it to the rest of the country and completely offset the cost of installing solar in the first place.
Great stat on how many miles Aptera can go on just the electricity it takes to REFINE a gallon of gas. Aptera should use that stat in their marketing. You explain things very well. And to think that the whole car ( Aptera) has about same drag as holding both your hands out the window REALLY is nuts to think about. I think you’re right about its probably going to consume much less at highway speeds. Does this mean we’ll see ALOT more people speeding in Apteras??? ;-) Also great explanation with the 1000mile variant doesn’t really make much sense. I’ve always thought the sweet spot is around 500miles myself,, but 400 is more than adequate for the vast majority. Personally I’d rather them take longer and get it totally right with the 1st vehicles right out of the gate.
RIGHT. Come to the market with a masterpiece, not a project car(which needs work the second you receive it). As an investor and reservation holder, I believe coming to the market with a finished product will be the best marketing strategy.
Your discussion of battery weight providing diminishing returns on range is why I really wish Aptera (or other) would build a truly modular battery system where you carry only what’s needed for current use case…. small/light config. for commuting & large/heavy but high capacity for road trips.
BSM to ensure level wear and the weight make that impractical. Even for Aptera for the 400 mile version the battery is ~570 lb. Nimbus One has this concept of removable batteries you can charge at home then cart down to the vehicle (apartments) but it is a short range low speed (50 mph/93 mile range) vehicle.
@@ccibinel Assuming BSM = battery system management and guessing "level wear" of batteries, correct? Would think software could assure balance/level wear.
@@gr8dvd meant bms - sorry typo. balacing wear when removing and adding modules is very tricky. also battery modules are heavy (like 70-100lb). If they optimize for easily removable batteries of 50lb or less that means no commodity 2170s. Taking a vehicle apart to remove them isnt trivial. In general not a great concept.
Thanks for the video. so many of the videos do not have a clue. I don't like the delays either , but progress is being made. I am thinking second quarter 2025. I am Investor as well as accelerator so Yes I want now, but I also want right. Go Aptera it will not be much longer now.
I am fairly certain it will be 2025 as we do not have 9 months left in 2024. I guess we will have to wait until they get funding to know for sure. Part of the issue is the large increase in reservations made them change the design significantly to bring in tech that simplifies the production process. I believe that we are near the end as it is more straightforward. About all they need is the funding and they have identified the vehicle to get that funding. I believe they have some equity investors from UAE and Saudi Arabia but could use more. Any funding needs not funding by equity will have to be covered by debt funding.
Aptera is definitely keeping lots of us on the edge of our seats! Obviously we want to see these on the road and in our driveways, but they're the ones doing the agonizingly hard work to actually get this done. They're learning as they go, and don't have the benefit of decades of experience in cranking out the same old automotive widgets by the millions.
I mean, Aptera having started just two years after Tesla was founded, their complete lack of experience manufacturing cars at this point is not a good excuse, in my opinion.
@@jamesengland7461 They deserve credit for going under the first time? Okay, so actually four years after Tesla, then in business for five, then it was a Chinese owned company that talked about making the car for three years, then back to the original guys for another five, so thirteen years and still working on the prototype. And you know what Elon Musk says about prototypes…he says they are easy, production is hard. So thirteen years on the easy part, and give them credit for lacking production experience?
Nice video Sam! Great pacing, and you managed to cover alot of ground. I can't wait till i receive my solar vehicle. The idea is totally worth the wait. But the problem with reliance so much on power to weight ratio efficiency, and aerodynamics/drag efficiency is as soon as there is some inefficiencies, eg a small dent or protruding rubber seal or something or an underperforming battery cell or few kgs too much load, the range is significantly affected. I guess it just means in time, if there are small imperfections of the vehicle, for long drives we may need more frequent recharging than i originally expected. But it's no deal breaker. As an everyday driver the solar recharge will help out so much. Hopefully with the soon to be announced inboard motor, the centre of mass closer to central axis may also increase some handling and with one motor instead of 3 hub motors to positively impact range and handling.
@@gr8dvd We know from their livesteam and earlier communications that the original in wheel motor (IWM) drivetrain is being a problem. Possibly Elaphe is having issues scaling. Chery is one potential supplier but we just dont know yet what the drivetrain/specs will be but Aptera has made some statements via the AOC discord which has lead the community in speculation of the possibilities. I see Aptera as an affordable electric sports car some i'm hoping performance is similar. Moving to induction motors with an e-axel config could result in even higher efficiency when IWM is sorted out for the rear.
@gr8dvd @ccibinel sorry guys, seems like my speculation about chery motors transmission system was wrong. New Drive train supplier and hopefully new specs will be announced in the July update.
@@DeSilver215 Vitesco Technologies just identified as the supplier of the on-board drivetrain per description in US Capital pitch by Aptera. Details purportedly to follow soon. (About drivetrain & hopefully $60M US-C deal.) I was pleasantly surprised by the DT decision given the high expectations of the highly touted in-wheel motors.
actually Aptera did not design their car "from the ground up" with solar panels in mind, because originally, the Aptera was designed to have a gasoline engine. The first iterations were part of the X-prize fuel efficiency competition (and the body was pretty much the same).
These new Aptera cars are legit, no scam, a real company, great leadership and a real plan and they will ship cars and sell some, but I have talked to over 100 people and while everyone thinks the "cars" are neat, but none said they'd buy one as they need their 3 row SUVs than can tow 10,000 lbs. Aptera will sell some in bigger metro areas like Miami, LA, Seattle, NYC, but they will likely sell good in other countries like the Philippines. I don't see them selling more than 10,000 a year in the USA and maybe 20,000 a year globally. Sadly once the early adopters buy one, the sales will "fizzle" out. I do hope they make it. People need to realize that they do not need to be driving around in a 5,500-lb Sequoia/Tahoe...We need to go to these Aptera "cars" to be honest and get off oil, people need to embrace this new approach to transportation.
@@gr8dvd On your topic - I don't understand your question, but I perceive the magic of RUclips is where you will get your answer - ask them. Good luck getting to communicate with them.
Sam Alexander, you have to try an electric scooter / moped! We got one, and we're absolutely loving it! Also, for a bit of extra fun, you should check out the Sur Ron Light Bee!
Just saw your vid. Thanks for the tech explanations. Question: why did they go front wheel drive and did they completely abandon rear wheel drive. I heard somewhere it is because of the projected ship date. Couldnt get parts made in time for rear wheel drive. Keep up with great vids. Moving sucks!
One thing you didn’t mention was about solar. Let’s say on average you only get 55% efficiency on solar putting 22 miles a day. You commute 30 miles a day for 150 miles over 5 days, but you charge 7 days at 22. This means you add 4 miles of battery if you only drive to work.
Just heard yesterday!! They are dropping the in wheel motors. What are they going to do now and how will it affect efficiency and performance? Will it be only a rear wheel or front wheel drive? This could change the whole ballgame.
They refuse to tell any customer what they are doing which to be blunt is ridiculous. Not even telling customers how many wheels are powered shows a new level of dishonesty. We were told in August 2023 by Sandy Munro they dropped hub motors and Aptera still has yet to come clean.
@@andromedach It is NOT a matter of dishonesty, it is a matter of standard business practice. Because there are multiple parties involved, Aptera is not at liberty to talk about it at this time. All parties involved must agree about going public with the information, and this is why Aptera's hands are tied right now. They have said that they will be able to talk about it soon, and a formal announcement will be made.
We won't know for sure if this is the case until the NDAs are expired, which is likely to be soon. There have been lots of comments before we actually know.
You gotta remember tesla barely turned the corner. Rivian they spent 10 years for scale development before they came out and said here we are is what we’re trying to accomplish and then it was what how how long did it take them after that before they actually put them on the road couple of years I think. So around 12 years from idea to first production. After I was around 20 years ago, didn’t have the tech didn’t have the money put it on the shelf. Their way ahead of the competition developmentally this time around. We’ll see I’m optimistic.
Would love to have Aptera solar panels on my Tesla Model Y. Having a massive glass panoramic roof in the Y has virtually no benefit for me as I can't see through it when I'm driving the car - only passengers in the back of the car get the benefit of the glass roof and I rarely have passengers in the back of my model Y. So I'd gladly trade not seeing out of my glass roof for an extra 20 miles of range from some Aptera solar panels.
Aptera’s best case 40 mile range is with roof, hood AND back-hatch clad in solar panels. You’d be luck to get 10-12 miles BUT still would be my preference and give me almost free ‘fuel’ given my low mileage.
Welcome to WA Sam! Hope you survived the recent heat well. Your incorrect on needing a motor cycle endorsement here. RCW 46.20.500 sec 6 "A person holding a valid driver's license may operate a motorcycle as defined under RCW 46.04.330(2) without a motorcycle endorsement." RCW 46.04.330 sec 2 "Rides on a seat in a partially or completely enclosed seating area that is equipped with safety belts and the motor vehicle is designed to be steered with a steering wheel." Checked and no bills in 2024 legislature related too these statutes. You will most likely have to pick up the Aptera at an Indian reservation, fortunately we have a few dozen on each side of the state. We don't need a helmet either, Montana did but still requires it for someone under 18 in it. [note- your not required to hold WA drivers license, any states will do. There may be a requirement to have one if you live here? Sometime in the last 3 years the legislature added the "partially" to fully enclosed. Probably to accommodate Morgan's.].
Good question, but it’s not an equivalent question since the solar panels (and car) are only once, where fuel needs to be made constantly for consumption. Initially, production of Aptera’s won’t be so carbon-neutral since it looks like the supply chain is designed for just getting the vehicle to market by any means, whereas a company like Tesla can manipulate the supply chain into being more efficient. On the other hand, since the car is designed to be so light and easy to manufacture, they are moving less than half the parts and half the mass of a normal sedan and far less than an SUV or truck, but far more than a motorcycle. So consider that in your “concerns”.
@@TheScottShepard "it’s not an equivalent question…" It IS… but you rightfully note the answer must include the 1-off build of solar panels vs. fuel production/needs over the 10y+ life of the solar panels.
@@gr8dvd not really. It depends on your goals. I want a car that needs nearly no maintenance. I don’t drive all that much. I appreciate a vehicle that is self-sufficient. I don’t want to plan my life around gas stations (or other infrastructure) and repair garages. If your goal is to produce a vehicle with minimal global destruction, then a minimalist philosophy is a great place to start. If you never use solar energy to charge your vehicle, then get yours with the minimum number of panels. You don’t need to cover it. It saves upfront cost that way too. They had earlier prototypes with gas engines, but electric is just so much better in almost every way, except initial cost and weight. When they has a chance to bring Aptera to market a second time, going EV was obvious.
@@TheScottShepard I was addressing the question of cost only (as in OP) not convenience. As a lifelong, unapologetic environmentalist I had same concern with trashing old, working home appliances (with govt. incentives) vs. new more efficiently operating appliances. Never calculated cost of manufacturing new often less durable units.
No, but it’s open source. All parts available, and most replacements are able to be done with simple hand tools. They are big supporters of the right to repair.
What are the 4 states that need motorcycle licenses? Slingshot says it is only needed in Massachusetts. Also wondering if this means that a person from out of state cant drive the vehicle through the effected states.
I would like to know more about investing in aptera. I tried to talk to them on their website and they kept telling me that I would get $100 towards the cost of a new car and wouldn't give me an answer what I would get for my investment. It sounded more like a donation than an investment. What am I missing?
An investment in Aptera is purchasing stock. However I believe crowdfunding has been closed down due to a deal signed with US Capital for large investments. If you are one of those with lots of cash lying around waiting for an investment, like a couple million or so, you might consider contacting US Capital. This deal with US Capital is expected to consist of debt and/or equity investments with a total sufficient to start manufacturing and achieve their break-even production rate.
Keep pushing for answers. You won't like what you hear. Listen carefully through the lens of them pursuing donations. Even the stock they sell to Fanboys has no equity.
I love the Aptera, except for the interior. If they want to really upgrade the interior, they need to take inspiration from the Devel Hypercar interior.
Aptera has never said they do. What they have said is that the vehicle has been designed to FMVSS Part 200 crash test standards, and Production Intent vehicles will be so tested by a third party when they are built and available for test, by a third party. Hey, I live in Lamoni, and placed the 42nd order. Let me know and I will show you mine when we take delivery.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I have caught both Chris and you lying, which are in various videos (including mine) and many comments. Their track record for tests displays a penchant for cheating, so don't rely on future tests being valid. If a third party does a test the results are not always valid because the third party has to be approved by the right authorities. If Aptera doesn't employ an approved authority you can bank on some cheating going on. A good example of cheating is the claims that the silly trike passed a Moose test, when they set up cones at Chuckwalla themselves and cheated on the placement and the speeds going through them.
Aptera needs to redo all their stats that you reported since their announcement of no longer using hub motors. Still an exciting vehicle but the weights have changed and it is no longer an all wheel drive vehicle. I’m hoping Chris Anthony addresses it in more detail about the onboard motor and why the change at next months update.
When did they announce this? If they make this kind of change, that a big one and now so many unknowns as they did all of their testing, specification certification with hub motors. It's almost like they need to start back over again.
So, if I live in a state that does not require a motorcycle license, can I drive through a state that does require it? Or is it like the helmet law, where you need to put on the helmet before you cross the border?
It is confusing. Officers will tell you you need to follow the law in their jurisdiction. I saw that where Nevada was citing motorcycles for splitting lanes even though they do it in Cali. RUclips commenters say you follow the law where you live. I don't have a lawyer, so I just do what I think the officers think since they're more likely to pull me over rather than RUclips commenters.
The 100kw 1000 mile version of the Aptera is more just marketing hype. I don’t expect many to sell. I expect a five seat stretched version will more likely come with a 100kw battery.
The three wheel design is to avoid restrictive car regulations. They can make the Aptera just as safe without doing so by archaic outdated regulations. All those obsolete regulations add hundreds of pounds to the weight of cars.
Good to see you are an investor and giving non bias coverage of Aptera. There are times when I listen to investors that they push a product as they want to see their stock price go up when the company goes public. So, asking the obvious questions but have a positive spin on the answer is what Aptera needs. So, just devote this channel to Aptera and get a plant tour and a drive in the latest one. Then come back and tell us how great it is. Only problem is, unless they do an IPO or the whale investors follow you for their financial advice, you are just preaching to the choir and looking to get subscribers. I know you'd never do that as you are a straight shooter. Looking forward to you and Chris doing an interview at the factory. I bet he will let you sit in the bink too.
What is Aptera doing about their motors? I didn't invest Aptera, even though I am a big fan of the car, because I couldn't get specs from Elaphe and they seemed unwilling to disclose basic information.
@@fjalics 4 cents a mile in something you can do the miles in, and 1.5 cents a mile that you can't do because it doesn't exist. I'll take the 4c and get places.
@@glennzajic7318 I get 4c a mile in, and it is worth it. But if you are meaning the other - my words are free to me. How much have you put in and what have you had in return over how many days? Give a current accounting; I am very interested.
I rather they get it right before launch than release a vehicle that is not ready. Aptera motors is showing what’s going on, step by step. All other vehicles manufacturers do not show anything to anyone. The reason is they set their own regulations on what technologies and designs are to be the next release. So if they are working on a vehicle, most likely is it a few years ahead of its launch date…..if at all. Honestly, I don’t think they even care about public opinions about any vehicle they make until it’s release. If we even hear about a new vehicle trials and tribulations, it’s almost always a leak from an employee or management with presets press release in mind. Aptera motors is showing everything from the bad to the great almost as it happens. We get to see why, what, when and where plans are currently at. Anyone with some video editing skills can easily put together an Aptera documentary just from all the RUclips videos alone. Can’t do that with ford, GM, etc. maybe only reviews after it’s been launched. Who knows what’s the next Honda sedan design from the ground up looks like from the start? The crazy part is that it is all documented, just behind close doors, away from public opinion and other manufacturers technology on building the next version.
First…. You don’t want the first cars off the line. Buy after they been out a couple years. Second…. Wanting something to work does not mean it will work. The Aptera will never work. Batteries are old news…. They don’t work.
I had an order for about 6 months. I was plenty ready to buy in 2024, but when they announced that the pilot package wouldn’t be available for the launch edition but “we could buy the hardware separately and install it later” that was a deal breaker. I absolutely required an autopilot style package. So I ended up buying a model Y. No regrets so far.
Aptera is almost here - it’s only been 17 years so it should be soon, maybe another 3 years or 5-10 more years. Invest all your savings now because this “motorcycle” will be here any day now.
Hey those discount codes that is for the apex v8 promo is actually just lying. They ur Description says 22% off its literally 4% off. It took off 3 and change off the order. Check that the promo is accurate cause your responsible for anything your partner lies about too
There are about 10 carbon fiber and SMC battery parts produced by CPC and Mitusbishi Chemical - far less than needed for other cars. There is also a battery pack, electric motors, solar panels, their controllers, and an AC system.
@@n.brucenelson5920 How do you know the motors are electric? They are at a stage where they claim the new drivetrain can't be described. In fact, this is a stage where there are no motors; they are pending.
@@aussieideasman8498 Perhaps you have forgotten that my wife and I have actually ridden in a prototype. Everything you post comes out of your imagination.
@@n.brucenelson5920 The topic in this thread is about the components. You hoping I have forgotten about your joyride is completely irrelevant. BTW - I have not forgotten, and have told you why it means nothing numerous times over, for which you have forgotten every instance. A production Aptera is still very much imaginary. Try to imagine the drivetrain after 4 years of being told what it was going to be? LoL. I eat clowns like you for breakfast.
Weight doesn't matter so much for EV as it does for combustion because of regen. Regen basically cancels out weight as the driver of range. Of course you can drive inefficiently in an EV. It matters when you go uphill,, but you gain that back when you come back down. 99% of the energy in an EV is used against air resistance.
@@smeschia True, but its small compared to air resistance. You are supposed to increase tyre pressure according to weight so that rolling resistance isn't significantly higher.
Having one less wheel to provide rolling resistance, cost to buy and replace is a big one, especially for those of us who live in snow country may need to buy two sets of tires to cover a years use.
@@n.brucenelson5920 If a wheel has, say, 500lbs on it the weight produces x resistance. If there are 4 wheels on a 2,000lb car the resistance is 4x. If you put three wheels on a 2,000lb car the resistance is still 4x, and not 3x like fools would calculate. This is because each wheel is loaded up by 667lbs, not 500lbs, and are each getting x + 1/3x resistance. Even one less bearing is a furphy because the bearings have to be stronger than those in the 4 wheels, and we even haven't discussed the downsides of ride and handling.
Three wheels with traction control is what is needed to make this car drive better than a volt. One wheel drive in the rear for efficiency and rear wheel regen can add control on ice snow and rain. This car should be all wheel driven only!
Theres a video of fambro in 2007 saying production will start next year! that was the first try they had, so you could say they have been saying for almost 20years ( with a bit of a break inbetween) that production will start next year. There is some argument that this will always be a prototype company, and that the business model will break down if they go into production. If you go by past performance its never going into production......the directors have done very well without going into production. The seem to have a very relaxed attitude towards production, well all I can say is happy 20th anniversary soon. Dont get me wrong, they have made some really nice prototypes, but telling investors production will start next year has raised them over a hundred million dollars, with no scrutiny of how that money is being spent. Its a no lose game for the directors, apart for their reputations and sense of morality. Who knows maybe i'm wrong, I really hope so. There are a few other issues i've been looking into, since no real world data has ever been supplied it remains to be seen if what they say is true. Napkin math falls down when you put in some real world data, not a hope in hell they will get the range and solar power they are saying. No chance whatsoever!
go to aptera on a sunny day and video the display screen showing the solar output data...... I can guarentee they will say something is not working or the data will be astoundingly bad, someone has to do it soon.
Sam I always appreciate your videos, but let's be honest, there is no market for Aptera, and no one will buy an Aptera at the Price of a 5 sentir Model 3.
You dont think its odd that they have never shown any real world solar data even though they have a display that shows it? Isn't it odd that there is no test drives showing the actual watthrs used per mile. In fact there is absolutely no real world data been shown in all the years aptera has existed. There is a very good reason for that. I have managed to get a bit of real world data from videos of people on test drives, where they accidentally record the display showing some data, it is not good!
How much did you invest if you dont mind me asking? The car is slippery, the directors are even more slippery. Your saying the aptera is more efficient than tesla etc, but the problem is there is no real world data ever shown. So you cant say that, your just repeating what the directors of aptera are saying. for example they did an abu dhabi test drive, the screen showed 5miles max range from solar in full sun in that location..........thats why they dont show the solar on the display.
Yeah, showing some bias. If Aptera was given a check for two billion dollars, I think they could start production in 2025, but if they were given that same check in 2019 or 2020, I don't think they would have had ANY chance to start production in 2021. So their hopefully in 2021 was just a lie.
Sam, you rival Tailosive for being a motormouth. Will that cause you to block me? We all SAY we eschew honesty, but most of us lie when we make that claim. Those who are really honest are found out by what they say about their topics, plus a key indicator is by whether they block those who disagree with them. Integrity goes hand in hand with honesty. If I determine you are a blocker, you can expect to be featured on my videos. Now I will put you to the test with some of the comments below.
@@Tneo7 Not blocked so far. Sam may be asleep or not able to see for a thousand reasons - we will see long-term. As for AOC, it's why I nicknamed that Steve the cretin, but he is not alone. While most other content creators on Aptera are obviously a few bricks short of a house, the cretin is smart enough to outpoint them all combined, but is just so unethical he lets his intelligence devise ways to fool the gullible. I have observed the ruse that he pretends something might be an issue, then spends his time playing it down. The other thing he does is 'baffle them with bull' (something I learned 50 years ago in the Army) - put up a lot of scientific articles, et al, which are mostly irrelevant to the issue.
WHAAAAAAT??? I was just thinking about you yesterday, and you're back! Great to see you making videos again!
I love Aptera as well.
It is great to see you back Sam! We are all eager to get our Aptera. The early delays for Aptera were related to Covid, supply challenges, and funding. Funding remained the key constraint to production, but the combination of Accelerator funding and the upcoming U.S. Capital funding should put it over the top, and enable volume production to begin in 2025.
So far no assurance of USCG or UAE funding.
You are a legend, Sam. The thought, research and logic, you put into vids is amazing. Love your work mate, cheers from Australia.
3 wheels is more efficient because rolling resistance. One less tire dragging in the ground, better aero and less rolling friction
Unless you’re going through snow and have to forge 3 different tracks.
But Aptera is really focused on efficiency, and it’s one of the things I really like about them.
Thanks to Sam for sharing your use experience with us! It's great to see that our vacuums are of great help in keeping your car clean!😊
Thanks for the video.
It appears to me, that the project is massively underfunded. Development costs of new cars are typically in the billions. The crowdfunding total of something around 100 to 200 million USD is by far not sufficient to develop a new vehicle and create the production facilities. The YT videos of the production facilities also show that a lot of infrastructure to produce cars is not there. So in order to start the development of the production faciltiies Aptera needs to collect a couple of 100 millions USD. After that, they can start to build the factory, train and hire people, manage the business with all the suppliers, create a sales network etc. What I found out is that Aptera has 31 employees, net loss of 55 million USD (which is low when you start to develop a new car) and assets of a 37 million USD.
So back to the question: When is Aptera going to deliver? Answer: T + 9 months. So when is T? Sometime in the future, when (or better if?) they have the funding. As of July 2024 Aptera doesn't know and hopes for the best. But Aptera is hoping to ship soon for years.
I do live in NM and all the angles are in fact perfect for sunlight. In fact, nearly all of the people who live in the southern half the US get enough sun to make solar not only worth it, but we could easily overproduce sunlight energy and sell it to the rest of the country and completely offset the cost of installing solar in the first place.
Thanks!
You bet!
Good work Sam, thank you!
Great stat on how many miles Aptera can go on just the electricity it takes to REFINE a gallon of gas. Aptera should use that stat in their marketing. You explain things very well. And to think that the whole car ( Aptera) has about same drag as holding both your hands out the window REALLY is nuts to think about. I think you’re right about its probably going to consume much less at highway speeds. Does this mean we’ll see ALOT more people speeding in Apteras??? ;-)
Also great explanation with the 1000mile variant doesn’t really make much sense.
I’ve always thought the sweet spot is around 500miles myself,, but 400 is more than adequate for the vast majority. Personally I’d rather them take longer and get it totally right with the 1st vehicles right out of the gate.
RIGHT. Come to the market with a masterpiece, not a project car(which needs work the second you receive it). As an investor and reservation holder, I believe coming to the market with a finished product will be the best marketing strategy.
Your discussion of battery weight providing diminishing returns on range is why I really wish Aptera (or other) would build a truly modular battery system where you carry only what’s needed for current use case…. small/light config. for commuting & large/heavy but high capacity for road trips.
Smart people do that with their gas tank.
BSM to ensure level wear and the weight make that impractical. Even for Aptera for the 400 mile version the battery is ~570 lb. Nimbus One has this concept of removable batteries you can charge at home then cart down to the vehicle (apartments) but it is a short range low speed (50 mph/93 mile range) vehicle.
@@ccibinel Assuming BSM = battery system management and guessing "level wear" of batteries, correct? Would think software could assure balance/level wear.
@@gr8dvd meant bms - sorry typo. balacing wear when removing and adding modules is very tricky. also battery modules are heavy (like 70-100lb). If they optimize for easily removable batteries of 50lb or less that means no commodity 2170s. Taking a vehicle apart to remove them isnt trivial. In general not a great concept.
Thanks for the video. so many of the videos do not have a clue. I don't like the delays either , but progress is being made. I am thinking second quarter 2025. I am Investor as well as accelerator so Yes I want now, but I also want right. Go Aptera it will not be much longer now.
I am fairly certain it will be 2025 as we do not have 9 months left in 2024. I guess we will have to wait until they get funding to know for sure. Part of the issue is the large increase in reservations made them change the design significantly to bring in tech that simplifies the production process. I believe that we are near the end as it is more straightforward. About all they need is the funding and they have identified the vehicle to get that funding. I believe they have some equity investors from UAE and Saudi Arabia but could use more. Any funding needs not funding by equity will have to be covered by debt funding.
Aptera is definitely keeping lots of us on the edge of our seats! Obviously we want to see these on the road and in our driveways, but they're the ones doing the agonizingly hard work to actually get this done. They're learning as they go, and don't have the benefit of decades of experience in cranking out the same old automotive widgets by the millions.
Or they are a slick Ponzi scheme. Don't rule out that possibility.
I mean, Aptera having started just two years after Tesla was founded, their complete lack of experience manufacturing cars at this point is not a good excuse, in my opinion.
@@tribalypredisposed OK, just completely ignore that this is the second company. They haven't been in continuous operation.
@@jamesengland7461 They deserve credit for going under the first time? Okay, so actually four years after Tesla, then in business for five, then it was a Chinese owned company that talked about making the car for three years, then back to the original guys for another five, so thirteen years and still working on the prototype. And you know what Elon Musk says about prototypes…he says they are easy, production is hard. So thirteen years on the easy part, and give them credit for lacking production experience?
Every point is very well argued.
Nice video Sam!
Great pacing, and you managed to cover alot of ground.
I can't wait till i receive my solar vehicle. The idea is totally worth the wait.
But the problem with reliance so much on power to weight ratio efficiency, and aerodynamics/drag efficiency is as soon as there is some inefficiencies, eg a small dent or protruding rubber seal or something or an underperforming battery cell or few kgs too much load, the range is significantly affected. I guess it just means in time, if there are small imperfections of the vehicle, for long drives we may need more frequent recharging than i originally expected. But it's no deal breaker. As an everyday driver the solar recharge will help out so much.
Hopefully with the soon to be announced inboard motor, the centre of mass closer to central axis may also increase some handling and with one motor instead of 3 hub motors to positively impact range and handling.
"chery motors transmission" I’ve seen speculation, but curious where you saw this?
@@gr8dvd We know from their livesteam and earlier communications that the original in wheel motor (IWM) drivetrain is being a problem. Possibly Elaphe is having issues scaling. Chery is one potential supplier but we just dont know yet what the drivetrain/specs will be but Aptera has made some statements via the AOC discord which has lead the community in speculation of the possibilities. I see Aptera as an affordable electric sports car some i'm hoping performance is similar. Moving to induction motors with an e-axel config could result in even higher efficiency when IWM is sorted out for the rear.
@gr8dvd @ccibinel sorry guys, seems like my speculation about chery motors transmission system was wrong. New Drive train supplier and hopefully new specs will be announced in the July update.
@@DeSilver215 Vitesco Technologies just identified as the supplier of the on-board drivetrain per description in US Capital pitch by Aptera. Details purportedly to follow soon. (About drivetrain & hopefully $60M US-C deal.) I was pleasantly surprised by the DT decision given the high expectations of the highly touted in-wheel motors.
actually Aptera did not design their car "from the ground up" with solar panels in mind, because originally, the Aptera was designed to have a gasoline engine. The first iterations were part of the X-prize fuel efficiency competition (and the body was pretty much the same).
It’s actually 2026 now for the Launch edition later if you’re getting different specs.
These new Aptera cars are legit, no scam, a real company, great leadership and a real plan and they will ship cars and sell some, but I have talked to over 100 people and while everyone thinks the "cars" are neat, but none said they'd buy one as they need their 3 row SUVs than can tow 10,000 lbs. Aptera will sell some in bigger metro areas like Miami, LA, Seattle, NYC, but they will likely sell good in other countries like the Philippines. I don't see them selling more than 10,000 a year in the USA and maybe 20,000 a year globally. Sadly once the early adopters buy one, the sales will "fizzle" out. I do hope they make it. People need to realize that they do not need to be driving around in a 5,500-lb Sequoia/Tahoe...We need to go to these Aptera "cars" to be honest and get off oil, people need to embrace this new approach to transportation.
Well, they have stated that estimated production of 10,000 a year for the first year with plans to ramp up to 20,000 a year, so it matches.
Sam this was a very balanced piece ,your honesty is unfortunately getting rare as many commentators are being bought out
Sam, you are a rare commenter who can speak honestly and unflatteringly about a company they have invested in.
Salute 🎉
He speaks about a company I and 99.9999% of the world have not invested in, to use a figure Steve Fambro recently quoted, lol.
@@aussieideasman8498 Off-Topic: How am I seeing your reply 2h BEFORE a 1 sentence comment w/no apparent edits?
@@gr8dvd On your topic - I don't understand your question, but I perceive the magic of RUclips is where you will get your answer - ask them. Good luck getting to communicate with them.
Sam Alexander, you have to try an electric scooter / moped! We got one, and we're absolutely loving it! Also, for a bit of extra fun, you should check out the Sur Ron Light Bee!
T+ 9 months meaning we have no idea
When T happens they will give us a solid delivery schedule.
@@williammann7247 but they don't know T
Quick correction - the Model S is the one with the drag coefficient of .208, the Model 3 has a drag coefficient of .219.
Just saw your vid. Thanks for the tech explanations. Question: why did they go front wheel drive and did they completely abandon rear wheel drive. I heard somewhere it is because of the projected ship date. Couldnt get parts made in time for rear wheel drive.
Keep up with great vids. Moving sucks!
good vid, its suprising how many vids there are about this thing but dont actually have this much info
Production will begin in 2021. Oh, wait, that’s what they said in 2020.
I really do hope they succeed, I really like that car.
They have succeeded in taking at least 50 million dollars since they said that.
One thing you didn’t mention was about solar. Let’s say on average you only get 55% efficiency on solar putting 22 miles a day. You commute 30 miles a day for 150 miles over 5 days, but you charge 7 days at 22. This means you add 4 miles of battery if you only drive to work.
I just put down a preorder today... still dont expect it until 2026+
Make that 2030 🤷🏻
Production of 10,000 a year. Preorders around 40,000. Yeah, 2030 would be a better guess.
Just heard yesterday!! They are dropping the in wheel motors. What are they going to do now and how will it affect efficiency and performance? Will it be only a rear wheel or front wheel drive? This could change the whole ballgame.
They refuse to tell any customer what they are doing which to be blunt is ridiculous. Not even telling customers how many wheels are powered shows a new level of dishonesty. We were told in August 2023 by Sandy Munro they dropped hub motors and Aptera still has yet to come clean.
@@andromedach It is NOT a matter of dishonesty, it is a matter of standard business practice. Because there are multiple parties involved, Aptera is not at liberty to talk about it at this time. All parties involved must agree about going public with the information, and this is why Aptera's hands are tied right now. They have said that they will be able to talk about it soon, and a formal announcement will be made.
We won't know for sure if this is the case until the NDAs are expired, which is likely to be soon. There have been lots of comments before we actually know.
Wheel mounted motors are a bad idea. They should have only the rear wheel powered. Which will improve the aerodynamics.
@@chrisdsouza8685 This issue has been studied for decades. There are tradeoffs, but bad idea? No, likely not.
You gotta remember tesla barely turned the corner. Rivian they spent 10 years for scale development before they came out and said here we are is what we’re trying to accomplish and then it was what how how long did it take them after that before they actually put them on the road couple of years I think. So around 12 years from idea to first production. After I was around 20 years ago, didn’t have the tech didn’t have the money put it on the shelf. Their way ahead of the competition developmentally this time around. We’ll see I’m optimistic.
Would love to have Aptera solar panels on my Tesla Model Y. Having a massive glass panoramic roof in the Y has virtually no benefit for me as I can't see through it when I'm driving the car - only passengers in the back of the car get the benefit of the glass roof and I rarely have passengers in the back of my model Y. So I'd gladly trade not seeing out of my glass roof for an extra 20 miles of range from some Aptera solar panels.
Aptera’s best case 40 mile range is with roof, hood AND back-hatch clad in solar panels. You’d be luck to get 10-12 miles BUT still would be my preference and give me almost free ‘fuel’ given my low mileage.
@@gr8dvd The roof of a Model Y is way bigger than an Aptera roof though.
Can we shipping the first cars „Lounch edition“ for the European market from Italy?
Welcome to WA Sam! Hope you survived the recent heat well.
Your incorrect on needing a motor cycle endorsement here. RCW 46.20.500 sec 6 "A person holding a valid driver's license may operate a motorcycle as defined under RCW 46.04.330(2) without a motorcycle endorsement." RCW 46.04.330 sec 2 "Rides on a seat in a partially or completely enclosed seating area that is equipped with safety belts and the motor vehicle is designed to be steered with a steering wheel." Checked and no bills in 2024 legislature related too these statutes. You will most likely have to pick up the Aptera at an Indian reservation, fortunately we have a few dozen on each side of the state. We don't need a helmet either, Montana did but still requires it for someone under 18 in it. [note- your not required to hold WA drivers license, any states will do. There may be a requirement to have one if you live here? Sometime in the last 3 years the legislature added the "partially" to fully enclosed. Probably to accommodate Morgan's.].
So you are claiming Sam was not being honest; will he fix this second blunder?
That's awesome to read the actual codes quoted. Thanks!
@ Sam Alexander,
On the same vein of argument, do you know how many kWh it takes to make the solar panels on the Aptera?
It's not only the panels - it's in making Aptera versus making cars in general. Why stop at just parts of the whole?
Good question, but it’s not an equivalent question since the solar panels (and car) are only once, where fuel needs to be made constantly for consumption.
Initially, production of Aptera’s won’t be so carbon-neutral since it looks like the supply chain is designed for just getting the vehicle to market by any means, whereas a company like Tesla can manipulate the supply chain into being more efficient.
On the other hand, since the car is designed to be so light and easy to manufacture, they are moving less than half the parts and half the mass of a normal sedan and far less than an SUV or truck, but far more than a motorcycle. So consider that in your “concerns”.
@@TheScottShepard "it’s not an equivalent question…" It IS… but you rightfully note the answer must include the 1-off build of solar panels vs. fuel production/needs over the 10y+ life of the solar panels.
@@gr8dvd not really. It depends on your goals. I want a car that needs nearly no maintenance. I don’t drive all that much. I appreciate a vehicle that is self-sufficient. I don’t want to plan my life around gas stations (or other infrastructure) and repair garages. If your goal is to produce a vehicle with minimal global destruction, then a minimalist philosophy is a great place to start. If you never use solar energy to charge your vehicle, then get yours with the minimum number of panels. You don’t need to cover it. It saves upfront cost that way too. They had earlier prototypes with gas engines, but electric is just so much better in almost every way, except initial cost and weight. When they has a chance to bring Aptera to market a second time, going EV was obvious.
@@TheScottShepard I was addressing the question of cost only (as in OP) not convenience. As a lifelong, unapologetic environmentalist I had same concern with trashing old, working home appliances (with govt. incentives) vs. new more efficiently operating appliances. Never calculated cost of manufacturing new often less durable units.
Has the company set up a Repair network set up for the cars?
No, but it’s open source. All parts available, and most replacements are able to be done with simple hand tools. They are big supporters of the right to repair.
What are the 4 states that need motorcycle licenses? Slingshot says it is only needed in Massachusetts. Also wondering if this means that a person from out of state cant drive the vehicle through the effected states.
I would like to know more about investing in aptera. I tried to talk to them on their website and they kept telling me that I would get $100 towards the cost of a new car and wouldn't give me an answer what I would get for my investment. It sounded more like a donation than an investment. What am I missing?
An investment in Aptera is purchasing stock. However I believe crowdfunding has been closed down due to a deal signed with US Capital for large investments. If you are one of those with lots of cash lying around waiting for an investment, like a couple million or so, you might consider contacting US Capital. This deal with US Capital is expected to consist of debt and/or equity investments with a total sufficient to start manufacturing and achieve their break-even production rate.
Keep pushing for answers. You won't like what you hear. Listen carefully through the lens of them pursuing donations. Even the stock they sell to Fanboys has no equity.
I love the Aptera, except for the interior.
If they want to really upgrade the interior, they need to take inspiration from the Devel Hypercar interior.
BUT . . . as a motorcycle they do NOT have to meet any NHTSA crash requirements.
never take anything Chris says are truth. He loves to make claims he never plans to see fulfilled.
Aptera has never said they do. What they have said is that the vehicle has been designed to FMVSS Part 200 crash test standards, and Production Intent vehicles will be so tested by a third party when they are built and available for test, by a third party.
Hey, I live in Lamoni, and placed the 42nd order. Let me know and I will show you mine when we take delivery.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I have caught both Chris and you lying, which are in various videos (including mine) and many comments. Their track record for tests displays a penchant for cheating, so don't rely on future tests being valid. If a third party does a test the results are not always valid because the third party has to be approved by the right authorities. If Aptera doesn't employ an approved authority you can bank on some cheating going on. A good example of cheating is the claims that the silly trike passed a Moose test, when they set up cones at Chuckwalla themselves and cheated on the placement and the speeds going through them.
@@n.brucenelson5920😂😂😂😂 take delivery 😂😂😂
Aptera needs to redo all their stats that you reported since their announcement of no longer using hub motors. Still an exciting vehicle but the weights have changed and it is no longer an all wheel drive vehicle. I’m hoping Chris Anthony addresses it in more detail about the onboard motor and why the change at next months update.
When did they announce this? If they make this kind of change, that a big one and now so many unknowns as they did all of their testing, specification certification with hub motors. It's almost like they need to start back over again.
great video --WB
So, if I live in a state that does not require a motorcycle license, can I drive through a state that does require it? Or is it like the helmet law, where you need to put on the helmet before you cross the border?
Aptera has claimed no helmets required in any state for adults. Sorry, I wish I could provide a link, but it was quite a while back
It is confusing. Officers will tell you you need to follow the law in their jurisdiction. I saw that where Nevada was citing motorcycles for splitting lanes even though they do it in Cali. RUclips commenters say you follow the law where you live. I don't have a lawyer, so I just do what I think the officers think since they're more likely to pull me over rather than RUclips commenters.
@@kimbowilco His question was not about Helmets. It takes good listening skills to follow Aptera nonsense.
The 100kw 1000 mile version of the Aptera is more just marketing hype. I don’t expect many to sell. I expect a five seat stretched version will more likely come with a 100kw battery.
The three wheel design is to avoid restrictive car regulations. They can make the Aptera just as safe without doing so by archaic outdated regulations. All those obsolete regulations add hundreds of pounds to the weight of cars.
Good to see you are an investor and giving non bias coverage of Aptera. There are times when I listen to investors that they push a product as they want to see their stock price go up when the company goes public. So, asking the obvious questions but have a positive spin on the answer is what Aptera needs. So, just devote this channel to Aptera and get a plant tour and a drive in the latest one. Then come back and tell us how great it is.
Only problem is, unless they do an IPO or the whale investors follow you for their financial advice, you are just preaching to the choir and looking to get subscribers. I know you'd never do that as you are a straight shooter. Looking forward to you and Chris doing an interview at the factory. I bet he will let you sit in the bink too.
What is Aptera doing about their motors? I didn't invest Aptera, even though I am a big fan of the car, because I couldn't get specs from Elaphe and they seemed unwilling to disclose basic information.
No IWM's. They knew that a year ago and wouldn't tell anyone.
Kicking the can down the road seems to be the way EV companies operate. 3 kwh in my area is like 45 cents .
So 4 cents a mile in a Model 3, and 1.5 cents a mile in an Aptera not counting any solar production, which is super cheap.
@@fjalics 4 cents a mile in something you can do the miles in, and 1.5 cents a mile that you can't do because it doesn't exist. I'll take the 4c and get places.
@@aussieideasman8498 What a novel way to get your 2 cents worth in.😉
@@glennzajic7318 I get 4c a mile in, and it is worth it. But if you are meaning the other - my words are free to me. How much have you put in and what have you had in return over how many days? Give a current accounting; I am very interested.
Great to see a new video from you Sam. Your hair is looking awesomely long. 😊
T is for Tesla. Tesla is the only viable, profitable electric car manufacturer that has motor production exceeding their own needs.
I rather they get it right before launch than release a vehicle that is not ready. Aptera motors is showing what’s going on, step by step. All other vehicles manufacturers do not show anything to anyone. The reason is they set their own regulations on what technologies and designs are to be the next release. So if they are working on a vehicle, most likely is it a few years ahead of its launch date…..if at all. Honestly, I don’t think they even care about public opinions about any vehicle they make until it’s release. If we even hear about a new vehicle trials and tribulations, it’s almost always a leak from an employee or management with presets press release in mind. Aptera motors is showing everything from the bad to the great almost as it happens. We get to see why, what, when and where plans are currently at. Anyone with some video editing skills can easily put together an Aptera documentary just from all the RUclips videos alone. Can’t do that with ford, GM, etc. maybe only reviews after it’s been launched. Who knows what’s the next Honda sedan design from the ground up looks like from the start? The crazy part is that it is all documented, just behind close doors, away from public opinion and other manufacturers technology on building the next version.
That's the BIG advantage to using CNG as a preferred fuel ! No refinement needed just 100% American natural gas :)
First…. You don’t want the first cars off the line. Buy after they been out a couple years. Second…. Wanting something to work does not mean it will work. The Aptera will never work. Batteries are old news…. They don’t work.
Don’t want to get Fiskered.
I had an order for about 6 months. I was plenty ready to buy in 2024, but when they announced that the pilot package wouldn’t be available for the launch edition but “we could buy the hardware separately and install it later” that was a deal breaker. I absolutely required an autopilot style package. So I ended up buying a model Y. No regrets so far.
bro you have some big teeth on ya
Aptera is almost here - it’s only been 17 years so it should be soon, maybe another 3 years or 5-10 more years. Invest all your savings now because this “motorcycle” will be here any day now.
Hey those discount codes that is for the apex v8 promo is actually just lying. They ur Description says 22% off its literally 4% off. It took off 3 and change off the order. Check that the promo is accurate cause your responsible for anything your partner lies about too
Not a good start for his total honesty claim, lol. Let's see what he does about rectifying the lie?
What are the components of the Aptera?
There are about 10 carbon fiber and SMC battery parts produced by CPC and Mitusbishi Chemical - far less than needed for other cars. There is also a battery pack, electric motors, solar panels, their controllers, and an AC system.
@@n.brucenelson5920 How do you know the motors are electric? They are at a stage where they claim the new drivetrain can't be described. In fact, this is a stage where there are no motors; they are pending.
@@aussieideasman8498 Perhaps you have forgotten that my wife and I have actually ridden in a prototype. Everything you post comes out of your imagination.
@@n.brucenelson5920 The topic in this thread is about the components. You hoping I have forgotten about your joyride is completely irrelevant. BTW - I have not forgotten, and have told you why it means nothing numerous times over, for which you have forgotten every instance. A production Aptera is still very much imaginary. Try to imagine the drivetrain after 4 years of being told what it was going to be? LoL. I eat clowns like you for breakfast.
@@aussieideasman8498 If they could make them run on hot air, you could drive for free.
Next video up, Canoo 😂
Weight doesn't matter so much for EV as it does for combustion because of regen. Regen basically cancels out weight as the driver of range. Of course you can drive inefficiently in an EV.
It matters when you go uphill,, but you gain that back when you come back down. 99% of the energy in an EV is used against air resistance.
Regenerative breaking cannot recover the energy lost to rolling resistance. Lower mass reduces rolling resistance.
@@smeschia True, but its small compared to air resistance. You are supposed to increase tyre pressure according to weight so that rolling resistance isn't significantly higher.
Why 3 wheels? Government regulatory compliance costs and then efficiency in that order.
@@Barskor1 25% better efficiency
Less rules as it's categorized as an autocycle
@@jamesengland7461 Yes it is a good deal better and the best part is no part after all.
Having one less wheel to provide rolling resistance, cost to buy and replace is a big one, especially for those of us who live in snow country may need to buy two sets of tires to cover a years use.
@@n.brucenelson5920 If a wheel has, say, 500lbs on it the weight produces x resistance. If there are 4 wheels on a 2,000lb car the resistance is 4x. If you put three wheels on a 2,000lb car the resistance is still 4x, and not 3x like fools would calculate. This is because each wheel is loaded up by 667lbs, not 500lbs, and are each getting x + 1/3x resistance. Even one less bearing is a furphy because the bearings have to be stronger than those in the 4 wheels, and we even haven't discussed the downsides of ride and handling.
Three wheels with traction control is what is needed to make this car drive better than a volt. One wheel drive in the rear for efficiency and rear wheel regen can add control on ice snow and rain. This car should be all wheel driven only!
FWD only. Suck it up.
Theres a video of fambro in 2007 saying production will start next year!
that was the first try they had, so you could say they have been saying for almost 20years ( with a bit of a break inbetween) that production will start next year.
There is some argument that this will always be a prototype company, and that the business model will break down if they go into production. If you go by past performance its never going into production......the directors have done very well without going into production. The seem to have a very relaxed attitude towards production, well all I can say is happy 20th anniversary soon.
Dont get me wrong, they have made some really nice prototypes, but telling investors production will start next year has raised them over a hundred million dollars, with no scrutiny of how that money is being spent. Its a no lose game for the directors, apart for their reputations and sense of morality.
Who knows maybe i'm wrong, I really hope so.
There are a few other issues i've been looking into, since no real world data has ever been supplied it remains to be seen if what they say is true. Napkin math falls down when you put in some real world data, not a hope in hell they will get the range and solar power they are saying. No chance whatsoever!
go to aptera on a sunny day and video the display screen showing the solar output data......
I can guarentee they will say something is not working or the data will be astoundingly bad,
someone has to do it soon.
Sam I always appreciate your videos, but let's be honest, there is no market for Aptera, and no one will buy an Aptera at the Price of a 5 sentir Model 3.
Same as Elio scam.
Just keep sending them money, and they'll keep lying.
You dont think its odd that they have never shown any real world solar data even though they have a display that shows it?
Isn't it odd that there is no test drives showing the actual watthrs used per mile.
In fact there is absolutely no real world data been shown in all the years aptera has existed.
There is a very good reason for that.
I have managed to get a bit of real world data from videos of people on test drives, where they accidentally record the display showing some data, it is not good!
How much did you invest if you dont mind me asking?
The car is slippery, the directors are even more slippery.
Your saying the aptera is more efficient than tesla etc, but the problem is there is no real world data ever shown. So you cant say that, your just repeating what the directors of aptera are saying.
for example they did an abu dhabi test drive, the screen showed 5miles max range from solar in full sun in that location..........thats why they dont show the solar on the display.
Yeah, showing some bias. If Aptera was given a check for two billion dollars, I think they could start production in 2025, but if they were given that same check in 2019 or 2020, I don't think they would have had ANY chance to start production in 2021. So their hopefully in 2021 was just a lie.
They promised to deliver 171 aptera in 2020 actually
@@shrimptopian3392 Again in 2022.
Guess what? It’s a lie today as well.
Sam, you rival Tailosive for being a motormouth. Will that cause you to block me? We all SAY we eschew honesty, but most of us lie when we make that claim. Those who are really honest are found out by what they say about their topics, plus a key indicator is by whether they block those who disagree with them. Integrity goes hand in hand with honesty. If I determine you are a blocker, you can expect to be featured on my videos. Now I will put you to the test with some of the comments below.
Your Not blocked can read your comments. I also got blocked by Steve the Cretens AOC Channel.
@@Tneo7 Not blocked so far. Sam may be asleep or not able to see for a thousand reasons - we will see long-term. As for AOC, it's why I nicknamed that Steve the cretin, but he is not alone. While most other content creators on Aptera are obviously a few bricks short of a house, the cretin is smart enough to outpoint them all combined, but is just so unethical he lets his intelligence devise ways to fool the gullible. I have observed the ruse that he pretends something might be an issue, then spends his time playing it down. The other thing he does is 'baffle them with bull' (something I learned 50 years ago in the Army) - put up a lot of scientific articles, et al, which are mostly irrelevant to the issue.
@@aussieideasman8498 you will, a always, wear out your welcome soon enough, as you're so keen to prove...
@@jamesengland7461 Inhospitable Yanks?
@@aussieideasman8498 Yankees are hospitable if you don't rile them.