Speaker goes fully mental over Nadine Dorries lying investigation
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2022
- Speaker Lindsay Hoyle made a statement calling for an apology from SNP MP John Nicolson after he posted a video on Twitter questioning why the speaker chose not to suspend Nadine Dorries from the House for misleading a Select Committee.
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Yet Hoyle happily sat there without saying a word while Boris told lie after lie.
Indeed DNV. Hoyle is so embarrassing. He's the speaker of the house, but can't project himself properly, so often head down and mumbling into his notes. It's astonishing someone like that is given such a job...unless of course he's been chosen to ensure certain people can get away with things, his obvious weakness and incompetence cynically exploited.
@@starmersbarber He was drunk
@@starmersbarberand he STILL goes on about “do you want to go to the tea room” as if that’s going to scare anyone..🤷♂️
Didn't say much when Sunak uttered untruths about Starmer (PMQ's 6/11) concerning RAAC.
Lindsay Hoyle probably the most scared and gutless speaker ever seen in the house
He sold his integrity a long time ago.
Hoyle > Bercow
bercow ( in small print - because 🤫🤭 ) at least he was entertaining
He's absolutely pathetic
@@johnjones2375 says the one with no subscribers 🥱🥱🥱
Speaking of integrity in this house he’s about as much value as democracy in the PRC. I don’t recall Dorries ever being held to account for her deranged rants.
Douglas Ross just last week in the Commons accused Nicola Sturgeon of 'fibbing' and got away with it. In the Scottish Parliament he used the word 'lies'. So there is the equivalence to clarify the word fib, not too late to get him told Mr Speaker.
What a pointless joke of a man
Not one of them have integrity especially the Tory lying party
Nor Johnson.
@@carraw3501
Yes. I noticed that too. A wisnae best pleased.
Didn’t David Davis tell loads of brexit lies? So shouldn’t he be apologising for misleading the country?
Do you remember the 350 million a week bojo promised to the NHS if the people voted for brexit .... there is NO accountability in UK politics beyond anything that makes the parties themselves look bad.
Look up the investigations to drug abuse charges found in Parliament, there was a report that found traces of cocaine in most of the toilets in Parliament. One rule for the ones in charge another rule for the opposition then a completely different set for rules for everyone else.
Shouldn't the Idiots of Haltemprice and Howden who elected this liar carry some of the blame?
I'm sick of the way the knee-jerk Tory voters ignore their own culpability for this shambles of a "Government" they elected. When you put your mark on the ballot paper, you should be considering the person's integrity, not rubber stamping a bunch of criminals.
He’s still telling them.
No, no, Brexit is going really well. There are so many benefits to it that ministers don't have the time to list them all.
@@arthurpewtey maybe they could each list 6 benefits?
We know she lied to the committee.
Just like crooked Nicola did.
Yet when Johnson and his cabinet made statements to the press all this bag of jelly would say ‘I’m Disappointed’.
“Quivering bag of jelly” is its full title I think.
It’s only the Scottish so who cares 🙄
@@boxtradums0073 clearly the whole of England since they won't let us go 🤣🤣🤣
@@AidanMacgregor-Personal I was being sarcastic mate I’m an independence supporter 😉🏴
@@AidanMacgregor-Personal I'd vote for you to go and I'm English - not because I care about Scottish Independence - I just want shut of you whingers !
A Tory going on about “telling the truth”
Gosh, so much lack of self-awareness.
Except 'he's full on Labour always has been
"...but also we have a duty to tell the truth.." David Davis MP for Haltemprice and Howden, Conservative ...pity this Tory couldn't bring himself to tell the truth about this lying shambles of a government, pity he couldn't practice what he's preaching, eh
@@pistoleer3572 Lindsay - TORY LAP DOG - Hoyle is a CAREER POLITICIAN who followed in the footsteps of his father the Unelected Bureaucrat who was an elected MP in the 20th century !
@@pistoleer3572 it was Davies going on about "telling the truth" which isn't one of his own greatest skills.
@@pistoleer3572 it is clear that you misunderstood the point bud
It's amazing how accurate MP's can be with their answers when they're giving each other grief but when you ask them a straight question about something they did they become a human riddle.
That Hancock bloke admitted too doing it in a conversation on the jungle celebrity program..
A straight question like 'What is a woman'?
@@1chish Some people can't let identity politics go can they? What's your hang up? Do you need the MP you vote for to have the exact same idea about what a woman is? If so, WTF for? What's that got to do with poorly funded public services, exponentially growing wealth inequalities, "democratic" government in the pocket of entrenched wealth/power, rather than governing for the good of its citizens?
@@CCDR07 Calm down and thanks for the personal abuse ..... I do not do 'identity politics'. I leave that BS to the Liberal Left woke agenda writers in our society. Yopu know the same folks who drop the race card when in difficulties and think virtyue signalling is the same as rational argument. There was no 'identity politics' until they created it. Load of old bollocks.
HOWEVER: I was simply pointing out how some MPs cannot even answer that straightforward question. I know the answer and can accurately describe what a woman is having been married twice and I would expect the people making laws which will govern my life to be able to do the same. Not an unreasonable expectation.
As for the rest of your word salad I will give it the attention it deserves .... 🤐🤐
@@1chish The things I care about are whether my Mom can afford her healthcare and housing when she's old and can't manage on her own. I care whether people can get access to the justice system, e.g., father's who can't afford lawyers to defend themselves against false accusations of child abuse because legal aid has been grossly reduced over the last 14 years. I care about whether people can be seen in accident and emergecy when they've had accidents and are near death and don't have to wait 30 hours in an ambulance to be admitted. I care about whether people, myself included can afford to live as costs skyocket. What I don't care about is what you or anyone else thinks a "woman" is. As long as you're not persecuting or oppressing others, you can think woman come from the moon, have 3 breasts, and only eat cheese for all I care, but what I do care about is who people support politically and why.
I think your reply illustrates my point entirely. You chose to engage with identity politics here, you brought it up, and your reply clearly re-enforced the attitude that agreement on defining what a woman is more important for choosing leaders than what their approaches are to maintaining public services , protecting access to the law and the courts, tackling economic and social injustice, tackling the routes through which entrenched power/wealth subvert democratic government for their own ends, etc., etc.
Populist leaders now-adays thrive on identity politics and your attitude proves my point. Populists need divisive issues to raise the spectre of non-existent foes and fears to get people to flock to their banners regardless of what their true intentions are, whose pockets they are in, and their designs on power.... What is a woman? A schemer will always tell you what you want to hear. When in reality, the answer entirely depends on the context and why are you asking? Is it because you are defning who can and can't use a particular toilet? That's what it mainly comes down to politically isn't it? You are scared that sexual predators will abuse laws that let non-binary people use woman's loos? What a load of rubbish! 1. Any sexual predator, straight or not can dress up passably as a woman to hang out in their toilet block if they wanted to right now anyway. 2. The most recent national census indicated that about 0.1% of people identify as trans-gender males. That's less than 50,000 people in the entire country What proportion of them are going to be violent sexual predators? Regardless, It's going to be less than a drop in the bucket of annual rates of sexual violence against woman.
On the other hand the proportion of violent assaults against transgender people is like 1 in 2! Let em use the woman's loo if they want to and it provides them with some protection. It's a fantasy to think your protecting woman by insisting on defining what a woman is. Meanwhile, political elites (in the hands of oligarchs who's interests run in opposition to your own) will use these issue to exploit your support and your votes for self-serving ends that are actively damaging our social fabric (e.g., degrading public infrastructure and services, at the same time as tanking domestic production and skewing markets and hindering fair competition to the advantage of big business/multi-nationals, etc.).
"We have a duty to tell the truth," - how a Tory can say this is astonishing
They say it all through gritted teeth!
Ohh they always tell the truth, but they also always twist words and leave open statements. They never ever commit.
We will provide is a recent favourite....provide what...that they won't say. Inbred eugenicists, not all they think they are.
yeah its just tories lying isnt it lol
i can not fault your words you are Bang on
And they have to refer to MPs as 'Right Honorable' ... when many if not most of them (including a former PM and a few ministers as well) are ANYTHING BUT HONORABLE.
it's like legalease , the meaning you think is not what it means , it's like a code "Right Honorable" = "lying twat"
One wonders if using the term "Right Honorable" to relate to some MPs should be categorised as misleading the House.
No honour amongst any of them
"Honourable" means they're MPs, "Right" means they're in the Privy Council. There's a few others but you don't hear them much.
Very true, that's been pissing me off for years!
David "we didn't do any impact statements for Brexit on British business" Davis lecturing people on telling the truth is farcical. How he's still in the Commons is beyond me.
Poor speaker being held accountable for his actions, did he once demand an apology from Johnson for lying to the house? How many time have the Tory party gone over the speakers head and made announcements to the public before the house and what did the speaker do, have a little temper tantrum and then moved on.. he really is a joke at this point, a useless self centered joke.
He is a waste of a pair of underpants.
Bring back bercow. He would make the Tories life he'll.
@@jameswells9403 I miss him. He had intelligence, a powerful voice, a lexicon far larger than he needed for the job. He had the biggest testicles in the Commons, and a tough spine. He could but someone down with one sentence, and he didn't sulk.
Yes, bring him back.
@@Demun1649 He called on backbenchers when other speakers would not. He upheld democracy and did it with panache and elant.
@@jameswells9403 That he did, and did it very well indeed. If only ALL MP's were built to his standards, rather than having none at all.
Hoyle didn't need any help making himself unpopular with the people!
He's only out to make himself very popular with those who can give him that lordship.
So Dorries gets off Scot free, soon to be elevated to the HoL and out of harms way. What a complete joke our political class has become. What a disgrace to this once great nation. Shame on them all, the actors and the passive observers, who should of done something.
Shame on the people of the UK for letting it get this bad. But we wont do anything about it so it is going to get worse before it gets better.
The good thing coming out of poor Con MPS going to the HoP is that it triggers a by election. It'll eat into the Con majority quite quickly
Absolutely agree. She’s a disgrace.
Rebellion is what is required.
who should --of-- _have_ done something.
So when Boris Johnson trashes the integrity of Parliament, how robust is the Speaker on those occasions?
That you think this parliament has a shred of integrity is part of the problem.
Get him off
The biggest laugh in that is Lindsey Hoyle saying he's impartial 😂😂
He’s an English nationalist tramp.
The middle always gets hammered by the dogma of the Left and the laissez faire of the Right(ish).
@@abazely2743 How many people actually know which Party any speaker belongs to?
@@jonathanwetherell3609 High pitched voices indicate neutrality.
@@jonathanwetherell3609 Hoyle is probably one of the only one's that's well known to the public to be a conservative , I couldn't honestly tell you about the others 🤭
Just shows how rubbish our system is.
Destroy it.
Pretty impressive that he was able to stand for so long while obviously lacking a spine.
Such an awkward, uncomfortable and completely unsuitable individual. As you say, he might be able to actually stand up without a spine, but he seems unable to project himself properly as he speaks....which is weird for a speaker of the house!
@@starmersbarber He's not the only one - Sunak is so wooden that I keep looking for the strings.
You don't see the strings holding up the puppet; they use computers and AI to filter all that stuff out. :P
Seems to me Mr Speaker, you don’t need the honourable gentleman’s help in making you look bad…
Mr.Speaker...just get the pm to actually answer some questions, ffs, you Mr.Speaker are an embarrassment to the office you occupy.
What’s the point of the house speaker if he doesn’t do his bloody job
What exactly is his job though?
Dorris did mislead the select committee.
Why does the speaker's letters to an MP have to be secret? There's no state secrets in there or anything.
The fact that Hoyle gave more of a shit about this than the original misleading is very telling of his priorities and his alligences.
If the letter was not meant to be secret the whole letter should have been made public to show the true context not just bits to suit the SNP guy.
@@sychosid5119 If the whole letter was not meant to be secret, then the Speaker of the House should have bloody well published it himself for the public record in the first place. But he didn't - because he wanted it to be kept from us in its entirety.
@@MinesAGuinness Letters between mps and the speaker seem to always be private and not for publication,that said maybe the whole letter should be published in full rather than just edited bits, not sure a speaker sees that as their job though lol.
Hoyle's legacy as Speaker is protecting liars, and berating anyone who calls them out.
He’ll probably go down in history as the WORST speaker in the HOC.
Total nonsense. He is impartial - unlike the previous speaker.
@@overcompensation5354 Found the Tory.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 Once upon a time. Not now.
@@overcompensation5354 Have you evolved into being a libertarian, which is just another term for "a conservative who has abandoned ALL moral principles"?
Whitewash.
in dispair at this once great country has ended up with a dead head speaker & 650 brain no brain members of parliament .🙍🏻♂️
White and red wash
David Davis talking about telling the truth…. Didn’t you say after Brexit we’d hold all the cards and be in Germany making our own deals? You sir, are a liar
Hoyle can scarcely string two words together.
That’s so true!
He does come across as very incoherent and mumbling. He's certainly not the only person to be like this, but he's SPEAKER of the house in parliament. It's so ridiculously ironic!
He was as pissed as the maggot he is.
We should perhaps stop subsidising their drinking
@@michaelgeary3713
They shouldn’t be drinking on shift.
If he has been drinking, he wants sacking.
Never in a month of Sundays would Hoyle pass as impartial . He’s a Tory cheer leader Boris and his pals a never spoken anything truthful in parliament Hoyle was disappointed .Now sunak and his mates are at it . He starts attacking the opposition benches
The hypocrisy of calling each other, the "honorable members"
So it's OK to lie to select Committees but if you complain you are in trouble.
Our political system is not fit for purpose.
On the contrary, it is very fit for the purpose of representing and furthering the interests of a very small group of extremely rich people. 99.999% of the country don't count as we're not rich.
Well that depends what exactly the purpose is. If the purpose is to preserve elitism then I would say it couldn't be more fit for purpose.
I'm not sure that it even knows what its purpose is!
Our system is laughingly called a representative parliamentary democracy.With our outdated and flawed voting system,and the existence of an unelected House of Lords which is an anachronism that has blighted and polluted our political system for long enough,the description of our democracy has become a sick joke.
He sounds drunk
For a speaker for the house he does not read from a sheet very clearly. Surely it's in the title of the job, speaker of the house should speak clearly. He definitely is not impartial either
Hi Hayley how are you. Your comment is spot on. They are honourable members so that’s ok so 😂
Wish you a great day 😊🙏
Michael
Very disappointed in Hoyle I thought bring a Northerner he had a spine but he clearly has not or corrupted. He lets them get away with appauling behaviour like a pack of jackals.
Sadly honest northerners are a dying race up here now.
@@junglie
Sadly the British people are fast becoming a dying race. What has happened to our spirit.
@@susanstretton3062 broken by 12 years of Tory austerity and lies to the people of Britain. It is down to a lot of British people that they’re in this position though for actually voting them in again in 2019. It’s madness.
Our Parliament gets more like a soap opera daily. I'm always amazed that people still think that Government are there to serve them and their interests.
Well, it is if you are a CEO of a large company or a Banker.
I don't think anyone does now. They just like racist rhetoric so vote tory again and again
Did you vote?, did your friends vote? Did your family vote? Did your work colleagues vote? If not then you deserve no say.
@@marcuswardle3180 all those voting racist brexit and SNP and liberals and any other bs made up protest votes also. Hand the keys to the tories. And we all suffer. This k AF. Those that repeat "all parties are the same" who don't vote especially are responsible. Scum. It's over now the good ship brexit is here, country gets what it deserves
@@marcuswardle3180 Not really true Marcus. I want to see the UK rejoin the EU as a very necessary step to restoring the UK to the way it was evenin in 2016. Who should I vote for? If I decide that no party actually capable of of getting into office has that in its manifesto, who should I vote for?
I wonder what the result of a breathalyser would be?
God, but I wish that the entirety of the Johnson, Truss and Sunak administration had been overseen by Bercow. Hoyle is so weak-willed and biased it's laughable in its unsubtlety.
Bercow showed integrity in the role,so they got rid of him and childishly deprived him of the usual honours that go with fulfilling that service!
@@col4574 Bercow just loved the sound of his own voice and the power that he gained as Speaker. For such a small and insignificant man he was characteristically outspoken. Integrity is most certainly not the word I would use to describe any of his actions, nor would I use impartiality, for Bercow was so obviously, consistently and increasingly biased in favour of the Party that he joined when he crossed the House last year. Sadly, but only for him, such a move was his downfall in the eyes of both Tories and Labour for he is now effectively persona non grata after the sordid revelations of his period in High Office have been made public.
@@rarerufus8864 how did he not have integrity. He held the government accountable and made sure things ran orderly.
When you compare to Hoyle letting them get away with lies and sleaze, instead only getting upset at SNP members calling out that bad behaviour he is trying so hard to ignore.
If you think Bercow lacked integrity surely you must detest Hoyle?
@@rarerufus8864 So I'm sure you have equal distate for Patel, Williamson, Raab and by extension Sunak and Johnson
@@thekidd7 If the truth be known I rarely have anything positive to say about any politician. Unless they can prove to me otherwise I consider them all to be arrogant, self-opinionated, self-important and above all else chronically condescending. The proof of the pudding is in the state of our Country.
All I hear when Hoyle talks is "Wobble Wobble Wobble"
Not sure why.
Here’s your respect Hoyle 🖕🖕🖕
🤣 A very appropriate answer, Sir!
Second and third that
@@leannan070 I was being polite as well. 😇😂
@@killerfunghoul3948 here’s me being respectful to him (w⚓️, 💩head)
LOL 😂 as well, well said.
Is he always drunk or something, the speaker just slurs all the time
How does he go through life without having a spine
By not standing for anything. 😂
There's a Tory arm up his arse keeping him upright.
He's English backbone not normal with those Mongrels
Welsh Scots And of course us Irish are renowned for our determination courage and backbone 👏✊️👊🤛🤜✊️✊️
Pity hoyle didn't get so pissy with Boris.
David Davis talking about truth 🤣🤣🤣
This speaker shields tory lying constantly
somehow Hoyle calls himself impartial... shouldn't he be removed for lying to the house?
Just Stop Hoyle
The guy is spineless he shows himself up at every turn as a weak speaker.
Yet another example of the Speaker working for the Tory's. Bampot.
He's a Labour MP.
@@dlk1dlk1 No he is not. The speaker relinquishes his/her seat when they become the speaker. Hoyle is working for his peerage in the Lords.
@@dlk1dlk1What's your point? The very people now leading Labour shamelessly enabled this Tory shambles of a government. Being a Labour MP certainly is no longer inconsistent with being a Tory supporter.
@@MurphyOCP-001 doesn't he get that anyway?
@@MurphyOCP-001 he was prior to taking the position.
Go home Speaker! You're drunk!
Lindsey Hoyle has a very very dirty secret. 😳
They're just giving 🏴 more reasons to leave
Yep, they just kicked the issue down the road. More and more people will turn to independence because essentially their own voices are being ignored.
@@TKB11 for you maybe not for the Scottish it would seem
No it's not the SNP will claim the inevitable huge victory in the next general election will be a mandate for independence. Frankly without some huge political reform to correct our almost but not quite democracy I don't blame them.
@TKB Maybe, in a different universe, but not in this one.
@TKB no fan of the first speaker, personally I think she's more interested in devolution for personal power than for the people of Scotland but Labour have ignored Scotland too much in the past to regain the ground they have lost.
I think people got used to 10 years of a Speaker who could actually string a sentence together. I also think people are looking forward to having another one of those.
Bring back Betty.
I hope that on the day that Lindsay Hoyle enters the house of lords, is the very same day that Labour abolishes it.
Oh for a system that speaks clearly and unambiguously without waffle.
If an MP lies (or misleads unintentionally in which case they should apologise and clearly retract/correct their remarks without delay) they should be publicly shown to have done so and given sufficient punishment to stop them doing it again.
Distractions and diversion tactics should be slapped down as such - attention being given to the matter in hand.
But we are talking of an ideal system, not this broken system of twist-mouthed wormtongues and their gollum-like pursuit of self-interest.
Whenever I see or hear this man the words chocolate and teapot spring to mind.
Also, waste of space!
Can I add fireguard to your list to accompany chocolate Barry?
David Davis should have told the truth about Brexit so whatever he says should be ignored, and this speaker is so far up the Tory party's backside it's unbelievable.
Yawn
Strange, he is still a Labour Party member.
@@jonathanwetherell3609Why "strange"? StarmerLabour and the treachery of his fellow saboteurs enabled this Tory government. Why would they not also enable a Tory-leaning speaker?
@@jonathanwetherell3609
The fact he is looking forward to receiving a peerage and all the trappings that affords him in the near future from the current government says he has forgotten he is a Labour member.
The system is rotten.
chocolate teapot. tory stooge
Regardless of the SNP MP’s actions, I find it rather funny to her a current Tory MP whine on about telling the truth.
I knew the way this was going to go before I had even clicked the link. Depressing.
House chair is con
Tory and Truth in same sentence! Omg 😱🤣🤣
"It certainly put me in bad light with the people of this country..." Ah, and there's the rub.
Every day Hoyle is in parliament looks like his application for a wage packet and a seat in the House of Lords.
Cos it is
Won't do him much good if Labour can succeed in reforming the Lords.
@@rumourhats Let's be real here - Labour has no intention of doing that. If they did, it would have been done long ago.
Allegedly, the speaker is supposed to be wholly impartial, I don't see any signs of impartiality right now from him
EXACTLY
Hoyle calling himself impartial.
Hah hah. Pull the other one.
Hoyle is anything but an impartial speaker.
Wait, he said he was an impartial speaker?!
"I don't expect it to happen to an impartial speaker" nail on the head Lindsay, are you gaslighting Lindsay? yes you are.
The Tories love dishing it out but as soon as there's a tiny criticism of them, they go all thin-skinned and start quoting the rule book. Look at the attitude from the Tory benches today when Starmer was pointing out a few unsavoury facts about them.
Some of us aren't hypocrits, are we Hoyle... 🙄
Is there anyone in that room that knows the meaning of the word integrity.
Always interesting to see the variation in how hoyle reacts to members of different parties, while staying just within the bounds of his duties
Integrity in British politics is an oxymoron
A Tory arguing about standards of the house 😊
Is Hoyle drunk?.
No...that's just how he is.
No. Slow, incoherent and gabbling is him sober.
I believe they do swill down a lot of expensive brandy with those all expenses paid meals
Thought he'd be used to all the lies by now .
Let's get this straight shall we? The temper tantrums being displayed by puffed up twits should be directed at ministers of the crown who deliberately mislead committees, not at frustrated committee members who are ham strung by the Speaker's inability to pull his finger out.
He reads this as though he's never seen it before. Didn't he write himself?
The speaker is weak... John bercow would have done it better !!!
Hoyle - Apologise to me
SNP Guy - Naw ya Fanny
It's great being Scottish
Honour and integrity in parliament ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
SPEAKER RESIGN!!!!!
Its not that Hoyle is weak, he isn't quick enough on his feet, or have the intellect to understand what is going on around him. Bercow never got himself into a position that he couldn't dig himself out of.
He didn't manage to dig himself out of the bullying allegations, he was found to be a serial liar and bully and is banned from parliament for life, hardly someone you should be applauding.
Looking forward to that trip to the "upper" house,are we Hoyle?
'Its a big club and you and i are not in it!' George Carlin!
Listening to this speaker is like listening to a child in junior school reading for the first time.
I can't believe they can keep a straight face when using words like honourable, respect and integrity. Nobody in Britain believes in our politicians.
Upholding the double standard perfectly
She got a scolding that she didn't even hear.
Wow. That's accountability for politicians!
And how many of them have broken the rules and are still there?
these tories take the biscuit ffs
He is a confessional box now .
So easy to tell which side the Speaker's on.
I miss Bercow 😢
David Davis, didn't you mislead the public about Brexit?
Davis has some gall talking about telling the truth…
Lie is all the Tories do........
God only knows why MP’s need to be on Twitter in the first place. It hardly connects them with ALL of their constituents does it?
there are lots of things that are "not the way we do business in this house" that the Speaker has chosen to ignore
Both Davies and speaker .... one as useful as a chocolate fire guard and the other as an ash tray on a motorbike !!
I’m very anti Tory but I can’t take the speaker seriously when the only time he does anything is when it’s directed at him! Bring Back Berco!!!