11:15 pretty sure this would've actually been 36 treasures since saw in half makes 2 docksides and delney doubles each dockside trigger, making 4 total dockside triggers.
There's nothing to do except scrap it or play it as a more midrange build. You could replace any of Dockside, Jeweled Lotus, and Mana Crypt with a copy of Orcish Lumberjack. What can also be done is play LED, Underworld Breach, and Razorkin Needlehead/Grapeshot. Wheel of Fortune is already in most lists
@@veldin4108 That's interesting. "Won't win" is definitely a commitment. I wouldn't tell the "can't win" lie, since it feels like splitting hairs. If someone else told it it would ruin their credibility for me. I think if I ever heard someon say they "can't win" and it was a major factor in my decisionmaking, I'd want them to show me their hand, or to promise not to win no matter what they draw. I don't play cEDH, though, only watch, so I am NOT an authority :D
The hand is a hidden information for a reason. I love playing coy or threatening everything based off of a tutor. Make sure to remind your opponents that it could be a bluff to mess with them.
That was an insane game, absolutely loved it! I'm currently rocking Toxrill and can't wait for my endless punishment deck to come in! Ob was my favorite up until the bans! But plenty of replacements for the fast mana ❤, thank you for all the inspiration I get for my decks
6:33 My opinion in Dylan's question: Definitely you can say that. Cards in hand that are not public information is by anyone's guess. I even lie about obviously tutoring cards that aren't in the deck. What I'm against at times is physically revealing cards that's not part of a spell or ability (even though the game says you can).
Honestly, Cam I think you need to put Etali back together simply because I enjoy how much you both say ‘it’s a chunky’. I definitely can’t be the only one!
Im considering cutting Gamble myself, it cleans up post breach lines but I usually went for it t1 for crypt 95% of the time, and didnt bother casting it later in the game and am also not too worried about my breach lines being less consistent without it.
10:07 when Katie slimes the Deathrite, and Sissy and Tyler’s creature, wouldn’t she get three slugs? Because they died from the slime counters…. Or am I missing something… I mean, uh asking for a friend 😂😂😂
hahaha this has been a great farwell tour to the banned cards. Every bit of commentary has got me cracking up. " I have a dismember... Defense grid - well shit wrong person. Tyler we're friends right?"
Judging for the Win is a great RUclips channel. Covers rulings from casual to pro tour rulings. Your hand is not public information so honesty does not apply the way other zones do.
Hi guys, I love your content and I really appreciate what you do for the community overall. I was wondering if, given you 1v1 comp players past, you were interested or had ever thought about the duel commander space. Thanks!
I love the art on the playmats in an artistic way, but is there a way to possibly make some where the 'fills' of all of the cartoons are just one single color, with the lines of the art in a slightly darker/lighter shade of that color, for gameplay purposes? It can be really hard to make out what's going on, visually, sometimes.
Hey @PlaytoWinMTG, do you mind updating the Etali decklist after the ban please!? I recently built this deck and would like to continue playing it. You guys are awesome!
I will admit, since the bans I'm now more envious of Proxy-Friendly cEDH tournaments since my LGS doesn't allow proxies in theirs. [And most likely never will since Wizards rules over EDH]
So if they didn't have any card left in their deck when etali effect trigger they didn't die? Then cam just pass the turn and they all ded cause can't draw? I'm not mtg player so i don't know how the deck out rule in this game, but i love your content ❤
Damn I wanna make a trip out of this and maybe win some games :0 Deck tech videos would be sick going over more confusing decks like Tayam. I want to play him but want to pilot it well
I can't blame Dylan for jamming RogSi now. Rog and Kinnan are the best things you can be doing in cEDH now, and it's not even close. They are leagues ahead of everything else.
Shoulda held the dismember just in case Cam had a dual caster twinflame setup or a dockside loop set up… weird to just discard a card to get rid of toxrill… idk how they didn’t read a treasonous ogre or Jeska’s will in Cam’s hand. That was my very first no duh thoughts.
The issue is breaking a deal. Like ill let your tutor resolve this if you tutor for a counterspell for x spell and you dont get one, but just randomly tutoring i dont feel you have any obligation to tell the truth there
Tournament question: is it correct to understand that literally showing your cards in hand to your opponents is not allowed? 7:22 situation in reference
There are no rules against revealing cards to either 1 person or everyone. The only issue is you are not required to, unless a card states to, so if you bluff and the call you out you dont have to show off the card.
@@TheHumbledEgo as @leadluigi points out, always always always targets are chosen when spells are cast. Once the other players know this, they then have a chance to respond while the original spell is on the stack. Once dockside was removed from this interaction, saw in half will no longer see its original target and it will essentially fizzle and won’t be able to do anything if there are no further actions taken
There is nothing in the rules that says you can't lie. If you do tho, I'm not playing with you anymore. I don't fuck with liars or people who want to play with their words. Those type of people always say the same thing when you call them out. "I didn't actually say that i wouldn't.... fill in the blank"
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Dylan trying to politic immediately followed up by Cam going “I’m gonna put a defense grid on the stack” is the funniest way for a cEDH game to end
"I'll letcha' know 🧍"
THAT'S A CHUNKY
We reach the end of an era 😔 I’ll miss the chunky
O7
THAT'S A CHUNKY
Thattttts a chunky
I'm glad you've enjoyed the Chunky proxy while it lasted
It’s done wonders for the community, im sure it’ll be back someday
I want a copy of that proxy. Love the Chunky
11:15
pretty sure this would've actually been 36 treasures since saw in half makes 2 docksides and delney doubles each dockside trigger, making 4 total dockside triggers.
You're just putting mathematical salt into the wounds man
The Dismember/Defence Grid bit was absolutely amazing. Favourite MTG channel by a mile.
Such a sick game. Cam ripping the perfect cards off everyone’s deck was *chef’s kiss*
I love how Katie is like “oh shit” after each crypt loss. I’ll miss that😢
Rest Easy Chunky, you’ll be missed King 👑
Pressing F for Etali in advance. It was a good run, folks. Dunno what to do with the deck :(
There's nothing to do except scrap it or play it as a more midrange build.
You could replace any of Dockside, Jeweled Lotus, and Mana Crypt with a copy of Orcish Lumberjack.
What can also be done is play LED, Underworld Breach, and Razorkin Needlehead/Grapeshot. Wheel of Fortune is already in most lists
@@khub5660 too bad we can only run one copy of lumberjack
@mrgrowlmon some lists I've seen don't run any lol, so I felt the need to mention that
Don't worry, soon we will get Jewelcrypt Extortionist, the Hullbreach Wisdom printed in next horizon set. Chunky will return
Idk, Cam barely used his Dockside this game, the deck can still do some work.
Best EDH channel going. Thank you to the whole Play to Win crew for consistently putting out great content.
I think the only thing you shouldn't lie about is making a deal and then just immediately going back on it.
Yea if you lie about hidden information, whatever. But if you lie about your future actions, what's the point of ever making a deal with you?
What's with something like "I can't win on my turn?" Compared to "I won't win on my turn" which I think counts as a commitment?
@@veldin4108 That's interesting. "Won't win" is definitely a commitment.
I wouldn't tell the "can't win" lie, since it feels like splitting hairs. If someone else told it it would ruin their credibility for me.
I think if I ever heard someon say they "can't win" and it was a major factor in my decisionmaking, I'd want them to show me their hand, or to promise not to win no matter what they draw.
I don't play cEDH, though, only watch, so I am NOT an authority :D
@@veldin4108Can't win is always a red flag for me, since depending on their draw, it might not be true once it reaches their first main.
10:12 No but this actually totally matters really randomly like when Toxy gets cloned, so its really good to bring up.
Love your inbetween commentaries so much!
Great vid. Havent even watched it yet. Great vid no notes. Thank y'all
Loved the politicing in this game and the table talk, fun watch!
Aw so sad to see Chunky go. Pour one out for our Gruul homie!
The Chunk will not be forgotten!
Love this channel. Positivity is a choice!
Etali for life!!!
NOOOO DONT GIVE UP ON MY BOY ETALI😭😭😭😭😭
I love this video and narration
RIP Chunky. Good job piloting him to some fun games, Cam! 😢
So glad to hear that Chunky is still possibly alive in the new post-ban meta! Best news all week!
The hand is a hidden information for a reason. I love playing coy or threatening everything based off of a tutor. Make sure to remind your opponents that it could be a bluff to mess with them.
That was an insane game, absolutely loved it! I'm currently rocking Toxrill and can't wait for my endless punishment deck to come in! Ob was my favorite up until the bans! But plenty of replacements for the fast mana ❤, thank you for all the inspiration I get for my decks
So stoked to see my boy tox get some play
Does anyone know the name of the music from the very beginning? Maybe there is a playlist, I really like the musical accompaniment in each video
Guys please don't change... Raining working monday with Coffee laughing my a off... :)
I think it's telling that everyone has a mana crypt on the field, but when Cam plays a 1 ring literally EVERYONE lets out an UGH
You guys calling it chunky is everything to me.
no one groaned when any of the banned cards came out, everyone did when the one ring. JUST SAYIN
This will be one of the most interesting weekends ever. I haven't felt this perplexed since Paradox banning
6:33
My opinion in Dylan's question:
Definitely you can say that. Cards in hand that are not public information is by anyone's guess. I even lie about obviously tutoring cards that aren't in the deck. What I'm against at times is physically revealing cards that's not part of a spell or ability (even though the game says you can).
we need to have a celebration for cam, he said elvish spirit guide this time 🎉
12:24 comedy galore
In the arms of the angels as JLo and crypt hit the battlefield
Rip Etali, long live Etali?
Love the games where the negotiating become more prominent
7:50 through all the bans I'm shocked they didn't ban Commercial District. That's time walk on a land!
Honestly, Cam I think you need to put Etali back together simply because I enjoy how much you both say ‘it’s a chunky’. I definitely can’t be the only one!
Im considering cutting Gamble myself, it cleans up post breach lines but I usually went for it t1 for crypt 95% of the time, and didnt bother casting it later in the game and am also not too worried about my breach lines being less consistent without it.
Food chain is better now with dockside out. So I think etali is still live. Plus it’s in red so there are a lot of ritual effects you have access to
The music of the tournament annoucement was way too dope!!!
Yall should plug what music youre using, particularly loves this episode
Gonna miss hearing “thaaaaaat’s a Chunky!”
10:07 when Katie slimes the Deathrite, and Sissy and Tyler’s creature, wouldn’t she get three slugs? Because they died from the slime counters…. Or am I missing something… I mean, uh asking for a friend 😂😂😂
…..never mind, she caught it 😂😂😂😂😂
Love the content! You guys are all awesome!!
Whats the song at the start of the video?
What a great game!! Love seeing toxrill
hahaha this has been a great farwell tour to the banned cards. Every bit of commentary has got me cracking up.
" I have a dismember... Defense grid - well shit wrong person. Tyler we're friends right?"
Judging for the Win is a great RUclips channel. Covers rulings from casual to pro tour rulings. Your hand is not public information so honesty does not apply the way other zones do.
RIP Chunky, you were a real one.
Hi guys, I love your content and I really appreciate what you do for the community overall. I was wondering if, given you 1v1 comp players past, you were interested or had ever thought about the duel commander space. Thanks!
I love the art on the playmats in an artistic way, but is there a way to possibly make some where the 'fills' of all of the cartoons are just one single color, with the lines of the art in a slightly darker/lighter shade of that color, for gameplay purposes? It can be really hard to make out what's going on, visually, sometimes.
Hey @PlaytoWinMTG, do you mind updating the Etali decklist after the ban please!? I recently built this deck and would like to continue playing it. You guys are awesome!
I have food chain in my Rocco deck but in like the 6 months I haven't drawn it once
Chunky forever!
Chunky-saurus is always a fun time
We love Chunky
I will admit, since the bans I'm now more envious of Proxy-Friendly cEDH tournaments since my LGS doesn't allow proxies in theirs. [And most likely never will since Wizards rules over EDH]
i will still play my chunky, love him to much
So if they didn't have any card left in their deck when etali effect trigger they didn't die? Then cam just pass the turn and they all ded cause can't draw?
I'm not mtg player so i don't know how the deck out rule in this game, but i love your content ❤
Damn I wanna make a trip out of this and maybe win some games :0
Deck tech videos would be sick going over more confusing decks like Tayam. I want to play him but want to pilot it well
Imagine the force draw on another players untap
I can see mana crypt coming back once they figure out the entire new points system.
THATS a Chunky
Mana crypt is so powerful they if there were 5 1 mana variants that made you discard a card youd play all of them
like just for the intro song
I can't blame Dylan for jamming RogSi now. Rog and Kinnan are the best things you can be doing in cEDH now, and it's not even close. They are leagues ahead of everything else.
❤️
Can we also get any rips for my favorite slug boy ;(
Rip chunky
I hope he comes back
if you can still play an etali turn 1 then the deck is still alive
Long live chunky!
CHUUUUUUUNKYYYYYYYY
6:35 I think as long as you are not making a deal lie as much as you want
Shoulda held the dismember just in case Cam had a dual caster twinflame setup or a dockside loop set up… weird to just discard a card to get rid of toxrill… idk how they didn’t read a treasonous ogre or Jeska’s will in Cam’s hand. That was my very first no duh thoughts.
The issue is breaking a deal. Like ill let your tutor resolve this if you tutor for a counterspell for x spell and you dont get one, but just randomly tutoring i dont feel you have any obligation to tell the truth there
Tournament question: is it correct to understand that literally showing your cards in hand to your opponents is not allowed? 7:22 situation in reference
There are no rules against revealing cards to either 1 person or everyone. The only issue is you are not required to, unless a card states to, so if you bluff and the call you out you dont have to show off the card.
RIP CHUNKY
My investment on “heads/tails” dice is in shambles. Oh wait I bought them for Pokémon.
Ify Nwadiwe on PtW when?
Couldn’t Tyler pick a different target with saw in half?
No, why do you think that?
@@derekstoll1282 well don’t you pick the target after the spell resolves?
@chrisfisette6613 no, target on cast, on resolution you check if the target is still valid, if not the spell fizzles
@@leadluigiI think we’ve been playing these types of things wrong at my LGs
@@TheHumbledEgo as @leadluigi points out, always always always targets are chosen when spells are cast. Once the other players know this, they then have a chance to respond while the original spell is on the stack. Once dockside was removed from this interaction, saw in half will no longer see its original target and it will essentially fizzle and won’t be able to do anything if there are no further actions taken
I’m sure mana crypt may be unbanned some day, for cedh decks or for 4 power decks on wotc banlists
Super minor point that didn’t matter at all but I probably wouldn’t give the battle to the player that is going to make 6 billion blockers
Ok, probably it's a last video I watched, before some cards came back
why the hell everytime I watch cedh games, they always have the fast mana or something that will fetch it on hand.
dylan what do you use to trim your marvelous mustache.
Dockside extortionist? Mana crypt. In my commander?
I need to specifically complain about Mana Crypt being banned because it makes the Zndrsplt in my Krark deck somewhat worse
Rip Chunky
Nooooo chunky was my favorite deck 😢😢
So long as bowmasters is in the format stax decks can’t challenge Rog Si 🤷♂️
Lately I’ve skipped watching any videos with pre banned cards but you guys are just so entertaining
JFC..is that what her twitch stream sounds like?
Food chain wins
Day 20 billion of asking cam to tell me where he gets the chunky tokens
When's the "that's a chunky" shirt?
Does "Korvold Main" now count as a "marginalized identity" ?
you guys have great teeth
There is nothing in the rules that says you can't lie. If you do tho, I'm not playing with you anymore. I don't fuck with liars or people who want to play with their words. Those type of people always say the same thing when you call them out. "I didn't actually say that i wouldn't.... fill in the blank"