Making Wooden Hinges with NO Specialty Tools - Joint of the Week

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025

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  • @jputman082297
    @jputman082297 5 лет назад +11

    Awesome Video! I have a tip for you. To eliminate the tedious rounding over the remainder of the hinge with the block plane, Stand the piece on end and run it through the round over bit using a fence on the router table. No need to worry about damaging the fingers, you haven't cut them yet. It perfectly rounds over the hinge

  • @adamwest3435
    @adamwest3435 5 лет назад +4

    Came here for joint of the week. Came out learning about a different joint of the week

  • @GODSWORDTANDP
    @GODSWORDTANDP 6 лет назад +22

    Hey, Jonathan, Great Job! Thanks for the tips. Here's one for you. You know how you say "stay safe", at the end? You need to stay safe too. You don't wear a respirator. I just got over a scare. I was told a few months ago that I had some inflammation in my lungs. I didn't used to wear a respirator all the time, but I am now. Aspiring woodworkers are watching you. I know you want to set a good example. I saw your tribute vid about you new baby, so you're a real man, who is caring. We don't mind seeing a mask on the face. Much rather see that, than hear you have lung issues. Justs saying. I'm waiting another3 months to see if everything clears up in my lungs. Good news, no cancer. Praise GOD! Just think about it

  • @rbarrows5814
    @rbarrows5814 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome. I. Am an amateur woodworker. After having to retire from law enforcement and the Army National Guard due to medical injuries, part of my therapy has been wood working. I am learning so much from your videos, thank you so very much Sir. You are an awesome teacher and a true artist.

    • @silvermediastudio
      @silvermediastudio 6 лет назад

      Are you linked up with Team RWB and DAV?

    • @rbarrows5814
      @rbarrows5814 6 лет назад

      800lb Gorilla I’m a life member of DAV. Not sure what RWB is.

    • @silvermediastudio
      @silvermediastudio 6 лет назад

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  • @carr869
    @carr869 Год назад

    Very nice. Thank you for taking the time to make and share this video with us. When I don’t have a project I can just make sets of these for later use. I like to keep busy out in the shop. Thanks again.

  • @brentnicol6391
    @brentnicol6391 6 лет назад +1

    I like it when people make mistakes because that is the way we all learn about not to do. Great job. I got some spare time now. Off to make a hinge joint. Thank you for sharing.

  • @davewalker8394
    @davewalker8394 3 года назад

    Love the 'Joint of the Week'. I really appreciate the mistakes or application reveals that did not do well. JTW is totally real.

  • @neilchristiansen1123
    @neilchristiansen1123 6 лет назад +9

    Very nicely done. I think you and I however have different definitions of what is a specialty tool. Someday I hope to have a shop full of those non specialty tools

    • @grimninja2004
      @grimninja2004 2 месяца назад

      you can cut it in sandwich layers, one with hole one without the "spacer" using a jigsaw or hand saw, drill the holes with hand drill in each of the 10 layers, then clamp the layers together using the holes to line up each side vertically while you glue and clamp it. the internal cutouts would be cleaner, you could alternate woods between layers, and all you need is sandpaper to smother the glued up lamination

  • @bcampb1979
    @bcampb1979 6 лет назад +4

    Great videos, keep up the excellent work.
    I really appreciate your honesty in acknowledging your mistakes.

  • @dpmakestuff
    @dpmakestuff 6 лет назад +6

    Daaaaaaamn! I’ve tried and failed at this. Glad to have a reference for next time. Thanks my dude!

  • @MauriceCalis
    @MauriceCalis 6 лет назад +6

    Your video production is great; editing, angles, audio; everything is spot on. I like how you rolled out the hi-end for the music right after 4:55 to hear you talking. Cool effect.

  • @weimingliang8877
    @weimingliang8877 5 лет назад

    Wow, that was amazing. I love it.

  • @luket1234
    @luket1234 3 года назад

    Nice vid, I like how you didn't use specialist tools just a table saw, cross cut sled, planer, drum sander, block plane drill press, router table, pricission, calipers and an angel grinder.

  • @wb_finewoodworking
    @wb_finewoodworking 6 лет назад +1

    The hing looks great. I like this method for making hinges. As always one thing I appreciate with your work is that you include the failures as well as the successes.

  • @jerrystark3587
    @jerrystark3587 5 лет назад

    Nice video.
    I have made hundreds of these wooden hinges to attach lids of wooden boxes. I offer several tips, FWTAW:
    (1) Quarter-sawn, tight-grained hardwood stock is preferable for wood hinges and, as always, accurate layout and squared stock are essential. All you really need are a table saw or router, a decent box-joint jig, a drill press, and the tools most woodworkers already have in their shop. (You can do this without a table saw, a router, or a drill press, but it will be slower and more tricky, with more trials and errors. DAMHIKT.)
    (2) When drilling the holes for the pins in the hinge stock at the drill press, consider drilling halfway in from each edge rather than all the way through from one edge. This reduces drifting and leaves any small errors of alignment hidden in the middle of the hinge. (This way, you don't have to buy long bits, either. They tend to drift more than shorter bits anyway.)
    (3) When rounding or shaping the hinges, use sanding blocks or sticks WITH the grain, not across it. You will get a lot less splintering and chipping using this method. One can make alignment jigs to round these hinges with everything from metal files, to sanding blocks,. to belt sanders. Easy to do. Just use the hinge pin material as a pivot rod between some properly-sized and shaped fence stock on a base plate of flat scrap and you will be good to go. Adapt as needed.
    (4) Consider putting a drop of CA glue on the ends of the hinge pins after their final fitting in the finished hinge. Otherwise, they have a tendency to work themselves out during regular use, such as on a jewelry box or cabinet door.
    Great video. Wooden hinges are interesting to make and they are attractive. People always do a double-take when they see them. Made properly, they are also quite strong and durable.
    Thanks.

    • @nedcramdon1306
      @nedcramdon1306 5 лет назад

      Thanks, that was helpful but I couldn't quite grasp # 3. The alignment jig part.

    • @jerrystark3587
      @jerrystark3587 5 лет назад

      @@nedcramdon1306 Good question. Thanks.
      If you drill a perpendicular hole for the wooden pin rod in a flat board and insert the rod in that hole, you can then insert hinges over that rod to keep them square as you sand, file, or run them against a disc sander -- especially the latter. Waxing the rod helps to prevent binding, too.
      I put a miter-slot runner on my jig to allow me to keep the jig block at a fixed distance from the disc sanding plate. This gave me more control over what can be a very a very aggressive sanding process.
      Again, this was helpful when I made a lot of hinges in batches.

  • @ladykenja2700
    @ladykenja2700 4 года назад

    - E X C E L L E N T E ! ! ! Artisan extraordinare ! ! !

  • @Zuaachen
    @Zuaachen 4 года назад +2

    Can you make a hinge without
    (1) a drill press
    (2) a router table
    (3) a table saw
    (4) a drum sander ?
    Using the plane to round the hinges is cool. So can you build the hinge with only a hand drill, a hand saw, a plane, chisels and sand paper?

  • @EricRoy85
    @EricRoy85 5 лет назад

    It would have been really nice to see you not give up on the stopped hinge. You had a great idea to recover from it but would have been nice to see if it would work. Just a thought. Thanks for sharing big guy

  • @Forrest_C
    @Forrest_C 6 лет назад +1

    Great looking joint! Always wanted to learn how to make one. Thanks for the video! 👍

  • @wintersnot
    @wintersnot 5 лет назад +1

    Thomas and Dale have a good idea. Cut box joint after rounding. and, use a bead bit for inside rounds. I'd also cut the brass longer and peen the ends. Nice hinge tho, thanks for sharing!

  • @Ricardofromage
    @Ricardofromage 4 года назад

    Stunning, went looking for a how to video, amd found you, and for exactly these contrasting colours. My client loves the look, can't wait to crack on with them for her Ash kichen units 😊 many thanks my good man !!!

  • @scottsimpey2965
    @scottsimpey2965 6 лет назад

    I made a door stop for my shop door that goes into our basement which I used a hinge joint for but I used hand tools to shape the hinge part and then used my bandsaw to cut the finger joints. I also turned a wooden pin for mine.

  • @elviecco1
    @elviecco1 5 лет назад

    sos un capo. Hago cosas en madera pero no tengo las maquinas que vos tenes. Si tengo herramientas, pero lo hago a nivel hobbysta. Saludos

  • @abdulraheemimthiyas8420
    @abdulraheemimthiyas8420 5 лет назад

    Very nice thanks .

  • @bearshield7138
    @bearshield7138 Месяц назад

    very cool

  • @jeffforbes3772
    @jeffforbes3772 6 лет назад

    cool video and dialogue. thanks for posting.

  • @MrLeer78
    @MrLeer78 3 года назад

    One saw. One chisel. One plane. Make your choices and let the challenge begin.

  • @BruceAUlrich
    @BruceAUlrich 6 лет назад

    Cool looking swivel joint!

  • @stevieswoodandthings3329
    @stevieswoodandthings3329 6 лет назад +25

    Nice joint. However not sure no speciality tools aren’t required... box joint jig and dado stacks aren’t in everybody’s locker. Struggle to find dado stacks in the uk as well! Nice hinge though.

    • @katzmosestools
      @katzmosestools  6 лет назад +4

      You can make a box joint jig with as little as a board screwed to your miter gauge in under 5 minutes. @makesomething just did a video. Thanks bud

    • @MsRmaclaren
      @MsRmaclaren 6 лет назад +1

      Incra box joint jig, router table and table saw that accepts a dado stack not in my tool box lol. Maybe if I win Jay Bates giveaway! Good information anyway for future reference.

    • @silvermediastudio
      @silvermediastudio 6 лет назад +4

      Anything you can do with a dado stack you can do with a chisel and a mallet. Just takes longer.

    • @JB-uc4zv
      @JB-uc4zv 5 лет назад

      @@silvermediastudio and more skill with a chisel and mallet than some people (like me) have. To be fair, it takes a certain level of skill with power tools as well. I'm pretty new at woodworking and probably don't have the skill yet to do this with power or hand tools, but I'm learning the power tools.

    • @738polarbear
      @738polarbear 5 лет назад

      Dado stacks are illegal in the EU ,you can doo it without though .

  • @billy19461
    @billy19461 6 лет назад

    Nice job!

  • @terryacton4957
    @terryacton4957 5 лет назад +2

    Great video! Would be cool to see you use that technique for a box lid. Would look pretty unique!

  • @secollectiv5086
    @secollectiv5086 6 лет назад

    Another sweet looking joint! Keep up the awesome work!

  • @johncannata4703
    @johncannata4703 6 лет назад

    Very nice!

  • @NathanWilsonZA
    @NathanWilsonZA 4 года назад

    Amazing! I'm a science teacher also teaching design; we're making a simple wooden drawing board.
    Would you have suggestions for how to attach different parts of the structure together using only wood, so that you have a fully-functional, portable drawing board? Your workshop and workmanship are simply amazing.

  • @russstaples6125
    @russstaples6125 6 лет назад

    Thank you for the awesome video. I've been trying to cut this joint entirely by hand 🤚. The use of the table saw box joint jig was my next move. Again 😊 thank you.

  • @ecaff9515
    @ecaff9515 6 лет назад

    Excellent video and process. Truly amazing and beautiful. Thanks for sharing.

  • @southernsawyers6543
    @southernsawyers6543 5 лет назад

    very nice ,great videos watching it again,just searching for some simple boxes to make with cedar,with no specialty tools,im in the sticks I mean no specialty tools at all lol,great tips an tricks im learning from your videos keep it up,

  • @hannodippenaar628
    @hannodippenaar628 6 лет назад

    Great video.

  • @laurac4562
    @laurac4562 Год назад

    excellent

  • @randywright7933
    @randywright7933 6 лет назад

    Very cool man. Thanks for sharing

  • @linuxjcajca7806
    @linuxjcajca7806 5 лет назад

    Good and beautiful job. Thanks for the video.

  • @josephkrug8579
    @josephkrug8579 11 месяцев назад

    A sad note, before trying this, do tests to make sure your drill press can actually drill properly vertical holes in the wood when it is sitting on the table/against the fence...I had an old ryobi 12" drill press from 2004 era...that was not drilling square to the table, and I was unable to adjust things so that it would do so. So I moved up to better floor standing drill press's that can drill vertical holes properly. So as with any precision project, make sure to test your tools first before running into issues/ruining a project due to the tool limitations.

  • @cthulpiss
    @cthulpiss 5 лет назад +115

    No speciality tools my ass :P Nice video, though.

    • @1972Russianwolf
      @1972Russianwolf 5 лет назад +4

      What did he use that you consider a specialty tool?

    • @DB-lk5tt
      @DB-lk5tt 5 лет назад +15

      Dado Stack. Not everyone can afford one, and in Europe you can’t even buy them.

    • @jim-zb2kb
      @jim-zb2kb 5 лет назад +6

      @@DB-lk5tt i need a dado stack, hope Britain leaves

    • @romulusclay6697
      @romulusclay6697 5 лет назад +2

      @@1972Russianwolf dado stack, incra box joint jig, $500 in 2 block planes

    • @RyanMonty
      @RyanMonty 5 лет назад +5

      @@DB-lk5tt You don't have to use a dado stack to do this. It makes it easier and quicker, but not necessary.
      So correct, no specialty tools.

  • @henrysiegertsz8204
    @henrysiegertsz8204 4 года назад

    Jonathan, a bullnose bit would have saved you half a dozen steps and eliminated the risk of breaking knuckles off, i.e., doing all the edge profiling before cutting the Box joints.
    Superb result nonetheless!

  • @tawfikben-gameia8620
    @tawfikben-gameia8620 5 лет назад

    It’s very perfect and nice job .

  • @michaell7877
    @michaell7877 4 года назад

    You might want to try Incra’s Hingecrafter machine.

  • @carlosgarzon6906
    @carlosgarzon6906 3 года назад

    gracias por el video esta super

  • @BradsWorkbench
    @BradsWorkbench 6 лет назад

    Always good to see a pro even admit defeat 👍🏼

  • @ValgniTehki
    @ValgniTehki 4 года назад

    This is cool, can't wait to attempt them. Can see a lot of tools being thrown and plenty of swearing.

  • @The_Joker_
    @The_Joker_ 3 года назад

    It all hinges on the craftsmanship.

  • @jjjerbear777
    @jjjerbear777 5 лет назад +5

    how about doing the box joints first ... then drill them while put together , then you will have perfect fit in the hinge ? :)

    • @thecardinalcrew8959
      @thecardinalcrew8959 4 года назад

      jjjerbear777 you’d have to have the round over done while the joint is together if you did it that way, but it could probably be done. Those ends would tear out quite a bit if the pieces were routed separately.

  • @rachidbensaid4665
    @rachidbensaid4665 3 года назад

    تحياتي لك من تطوان المغرب

  • @NickNolting
    @NickNolting 3 года назад

    Amazing work! You should hold lessons in your shop!

  • @JordanSmeltzer70
    @JordanSmeltzer70 2 года назад

    If you cut that to fit in nordlock washers, and inlaid a nut and bolt, could it be a tension locking hinge?

  • @diydad6723
    @diydad6723 6 лет назад

    Nice one john, i will try this joint for my wifes jewelery box

  • @papahajek5383
    @papahajek5383 5 лет назад +1

    Would it be possible to shape the rounded portion before cutting the box slots?

  • @zeronolife5060
    @zeronolife5060 5 лет назад

    Simple fix on the not breaking the joints, just do your hole first, then use the router to round all sides and the inside cuts, and then finish it with the box joint cuts.

  • @wwscott7595
    @wwscott7595 6 лет назад

    Hullo young man, what can I say. I think I was the only one asking for this joint and for you to do this and help me along with some Christmas project's for a charity close to my heart. The other thing is I think you need to have a word with your barber, he has only shaved one side of your head. Keep those arms flying BIG GUY.

    • @katzmosestools
      @katzmosestools  6 лет назад

      Cheers!

    • @wwscott7595
      @wwscott7595 6 лет назад

      I apologise for getting to personal regarding your hair style. I forget I was your age a one time and I liked to look good at times. Forget I even said it. Still feel very grateful you showed a good interpretation of this joint (should be careful with that word).

  • @artconnolly9519
    @artconnolly9519 5 лет назад

    I bought the bull nose bit off Ebay for cheap to do the entire curved edge of the hinges. $30 for three diff sizes.

  • @TheUrantia001
    @TheUrantia001 3 года назад

    a table saw is quite a specialised tool...as is a pillar drill and bench sander....

  • @l1verm0m
    @l1verm0m 6 лет назад

    Nice one Jonathan....

  • @rick91443
    @rick91443 6 лет назад

    Beyond my skill level(and would need to watch it several times at that,) but always great watching your work...cheers...rr Normandy

  • @patmos72
    @patmos72 6 лет назад

    Very nice hinge. Your videos are a pleasure to watch, like profesional tv production or better.

  • @lisajarvis3820
    @lisajarvis3820 2 года назад

    Can this same method be used to add hinges on resin book spine and both front/back cover boards? I want my hinges to be apart of the actual board covers and spine!!

  • @MultiTom1956
    @MultiTom1956 6 лет назад

    Looks beautiful 😊will try it out some day and thank you for your tutorial😊

  • @gianfds3177
    @gianfds3177 2 года назад

    Amazing good looking work! Any tip on how to prevent the pin from falling off? (apart friction)

  • @owenkingsr
    @owenkingsr 6 лет назад

    Cool vid bro

  • @johnbrown5075
    @johnbrown5075 4 года назад

    Can you show us how to attach this to a to cabinet door and how we would install it?

  • @timplumey-fl5xn
    @timplumey-fl5xn 9 месяцев назад

    Would you recommend a file instead of a block plane to round them off?

  • @robertgreen8416
    @robertgreen8416 Год назад +11

    The author does like to from scratch, ruclips.net/user/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO shaping and trimming wood from large blocks into fine finished products. As another reviewer mentioned, most projects require a lot of high-dollar equipment that most of us don’t have the room or budget for. But, knowing how to do these things, even if we won’t be able to practise the full stack project, is still great.

  • @ronaldmoorehouse1469
    @ronaldmoorehouse1469 5 лет назад

    How about making the edges round before you run them thru the box jig ?

  • @relicke
    @relicke 6 лет назад

    Honestly have no idea why or how you were in my recommended list. But I ended up watching you until 7 AM LOOOOOL why sleep.

  • @edwinjose28
    @edwinjose28 5 лет назад

    excelente, me gusto mucho. Gracias por sus consejos maestro.
    Saludos desde Mérida Venezuela

    • @katzmosestools
      @katzmosestools  5 лет назад

      Gracias mi amigo. Mi espanol es malo. Yo comprendo.

  • @connerreid3579
    @connerreid3579 5 лет назад

    Patton Oswalt's handy, tanned brother.

  • @grandmastermicochero
    @grandmastermicochero 2 месяца назад

    Hey Jon,, the drill press works great for making micro boxes but how do you drill the holes if you are making a larger box of say 12 to 14 inches and keeping them straight for your brass rod?

  • @IR.woodcrafts4830
    @IR.woodcrafts4830 6 лет назад

    Good job bro👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @boydmerriman
    @boydmerriman 5 лет назад +2

    Question: Would doing all the fragile work, sanding, rounding, drilling, etc. be done first and then cut the finger joints? That would eliminate any chance of breaking one off during the sanding or other work.

  • @stathisbikos6563
    @stathisbikos6563 5 лет назад

    First I gotta say, these are beautiful.
    second, If you meant to use this hinge design for a box lid, you could conceivably incorporate the hinge design in the full length of the lid and back pieces of the box, and not bother with halving the thickness of the boards as the hinge will never "close" more than 90 degrees anyway. My description is awefull but I hope the idea comes across.
    That might also be an idea for a video maybe? If I may dare make the suggestion.

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo 5 лет назад

    I would suggest a softer wood worked into the box joint gaps glued up with a low melting point wax that would later work as a lubricant surface. You can then mill the softer wood out and clean the wax down. Cardinal rule violated: crossgrain. You need a captive shaving knife (long straight handled drawknife looking thing with one end anchored to the bench with an eyelet lag). Little more skill, less router.

  • @walterrider9600
    @walterrider9600 6 лет назад

    thank you Katz . what a wonderful idea . i guess to keep the brass pin from coming out you would use a prick punch on one end with a back up punch on the other end ?

    • @root1657
      @root1657 6 лет назад +1

      Alternately you could have it built into the project in a way that there is no where for the pin to slide out over time, because it is blocked on both ends by other pieces of the project.

    • @walterrider9600
      @walterrider9600 6 лет назад +1

      @@root1657 thank you

  • @DeejayDebi
    @DeejayDebi 3 года назад

    Just curious ... couldn't you round over inside of the hinge before cutting the pins?

  • @tooljunkie555
    @tooljunkie555 6 лет назад +2

    Good stuff John! Nothing like a nice looking joint on Sunday morning. ;) how about a mitered sliding dovetail or a mitered dove tail..?

  • @douglasbrown3493
    @douglasbrown3493 3 года назад

    Late to the party, as normal. Can I adapt this to make a center keyed box joint with an 1/8 vertical pin? I think that would look cool. Thanks.

  • @jus6681
    @jus6681 6 лет назад +4

    Love it Jonathan! Maybe I missed it but did you mention how to secure the brass rod in place? Maybe a little epoxy in one of the end pieces?

  • @Gray-Wolf-Media
    @Gray-Wolf-Media 5 лет назад

    So this is just a question but couldn’t you have made a sanding block that matches the shape of radius of the hinge then just cut the sandpaper just proud of the radius?

  • @bsouza1675
    @bsouza1675 6 лет назад

    Dovetail joints using Lignum Vitae (Iron wood)

  • @carolewarner101
    @carolewarner101 5 лет назад

    Like the contrasting woods. Pretty!

  • @waron18
    @waron18 11 месяцев назад

    How much would you sell a fully wooden stop hinge for?

  • @zahidjavaid4819
    @zahidjavaid4819 4 года назад

    Do these hinges bear the load of doors on mounting them as you say these are very fragile??

  • @Evilsizer82
    @Evilsizer82 5 лет назад

    could this hinge be used to make one for a Murphy bed? would there be a better choice?

  • @benjaminshields9421
    @benjaminshields9421 5 лет назад +2

    My god you guys, some of you are complaining about the tools, but these are pretty basic.
    If you dont have a dado stack, just make multiple passes! It's not that hard yall.
    If you dont have a box joint jig, make one! That's the whole point of a jig- something you can just throw together.
    Someone even complained about the drill press. Cmon man! Just use your drill! You dont need a drill press to be careful.
    Seriously guys, if you expect "no specialty tools" to mean, "I only have a saw," you are sorely mistaken.

  • @greg6107
    @greg6107 4 года назад

    Really enjoyed video, they look so nice.

  • @chrisgriffith1573
    @chrisgriffith1573 4 года назад

    On wooden hinges, you need about quadruple the amount of wood surrounding the pin than that of a metal hinge, at the very least. My hinges have 1/4" pins and they run about a 1" radius of the pin. The grain just cannot support anything when it is that thin.

  • @GeorgeSA5
    @GeorgeSA5 6 лет назад

    What about sanding the back ends with a sanding block (which would be less aggressive) instead of using a block plane?
    Cool video thanks

    • @katzmosestools
      @katzmosestools  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks bud. Would take forever and be inaccurate

  • @Vman7757
    @Vman7757 6 лет назад

    That was cool. Maybe show earth magnet secret box hings.

  • @taraballew888
    @taraballew888 2 года назад

    Hi there! Im trying to make a fort out in the woods just out of boredom. I would like to add a door to the fort. Im only 16 so I dont have any tools at all except sand paper, a knife, an axe, nails and a hammer. Is there any way I can make a simple small henge with what tools I have?
    Tips and help from anyone would be so much appreciated 🙏

  • @jonwarren9979
    @jonwarren9979 6 лет назад

    Wow this is amazing. Id like to see these in an application. They look very difficult

    • @katzmosestools
      @katzmosestools  6 лет назад

      They were definitely a cause for slow and steady work hahaha

  • @MayTheLightBeWithYou
    @MayTheLightBeWithYou 5 лет назад

    Why not do the box joint cutting after all the shaping is done to 90% so that only the final bit of light sanding is required, that will stop the bits breaking

    • @katzmosestools
      @katzmosestools  5 лет назад

      Because one piece would be angled by 10-20 degrees when you cut them

  • @Just-ot4vy
    @Just-ot4vy 6 лет назад

    The best way to do this is to incorporate the hinge into your workpiece. This way you only have to do the initial round over. For stop hinges only round over one side. Plus you don't have a big bulky hinge on top of your piece.