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    Tommi's Splinter Twin Decklist:
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    4 Deceiver Exarch
    2 Snapcaster Mage
    2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
    2 Grim Lavamancer
    4 Pestermite
    1 Spellskite
    3 Spell Pierce
    2 Dispel
    4 Lightning Bolt
    1 Mizzium Skin
    4 Serum Visions
    1 Gitaxian Probe
    3 Sleight of Hand
    4 Splinter Twin
    4 Misty Rainforest
    3 Steam Vents
    2 Arid Mesa
    3 Sulfur Falls
    4 Scalding Tarn
    1 Stomping Ground
    2 Mountain
    4 Island
    Sideboard
    2 Relic of Progenitus
    1 Ancient Grudge
    1 Combust
    1 Vandalblast
    1 Dismember
    1 Surgical Extraction
    1 Spellskite
    2 Vendilion Clique
    1 Echoing Truth
    3 Blood Moon
    1 Mizzium Skin
    Mengu's Jund Decklist:
    tcgplayer.pxf....
    4 Bloodbraid Elf
    4 Dark Confidant
    4 Tarmogoyf
    4 Deathrite Shaman
    3 Terminate
    1 Abrupt Decay
    4 Lightning Bolt
    3 Lingering Souls
    2 Inquisition of Kozilek
    3 Thoughtseize
    1 Maelstrom Pulse
    3 Liliana of the Veil
    4 Blackcleave Cliffs
    4 Verdant Catacombs
    4 Marsh Flats
    1 Arid Mesa
    1 Stomping Ground
    1 Overgrown Tomb
    1 Godless Shrine
    1 Blood Crypt
    4 Raging Ravine
    1 Forest
    1 Swamp
    1 Plains
    Sideboard
    2 Anathemancer
    2 Slaughter Games
    1 Thoughtseize
    1 Golgari Charm
    2 Rakdos Charm
    1 Olivia Voldaren
    1 Batterskull
    2 Stony Silence
    2 Ancient Grudge
    1 Spellskite

Комментарии • 136

  • @geoffreybomber
    @geoffreybomber 2 месяца назад +265

    “White Jund” confirms that Jund is not so much a color identity but a state of mind.

    • @thiagomarquescn
      @thiagomarquescn 2 месяца назад +5

      Always been

    • @ClubbingSealCub
      @ClubbingSealCub 2 месяца назад +5

      just white em out

    • @MemeTeamSince-
      @MemeTeamSince- 2 месяца назад +9

      Similar to the best deck color name of all time “moist jund”

    • @TobyBW
      @TobyBW 2 месяца назад +3

      Although he did board out the white from the jund

    • @flosiporosi7827
      @flosiporosi7827 2 месяца назад +1

      MonoW Jund

  • @TheFallenSanctum
    @TheFallenSanctum 2 месяца назад +89

    tommy editing should be a mainstay in all paper play its such a nice quality of life update for viewers XD

  • @jwellington7960
    @jwellington7960 2 месяца назад +55

    The head of Liliana sticking out in the hand overview in the first sideboard game took me out 🤣😂

  • @chriswr_
    @chriswr_ 2 месяца назад +43

    tommy is seriously one of the best editors out of all the magic channels on youtube!

  • @smokyprogg
    @smokyprogg 2 месяца назад +47

    I'm a simple man: I see Splinter Twin paper gameplay video, I click video

  • @jacewilliamson4698
    @jacewilliamson4698 2 месяца назад +13

    I genuinely miss this era of Modern gameplay, all of the midrange and control decks had tons of fair interaction, nothing seemed too busted, skill expression was really high, every good deck was $1000 but once you had 4 of each fetch and shock, and some fastlands every deck was reasonably priced, plus jund was the "fancy pants rich mcgee" deck and its fine to have one of those in the meta, if its not T0. Huge throwback to this meta(even though I was 15 and playing off my dad's cards at the time), it was so much fun

  • @ferdyahern4355
    @ferdyahern4355 2 месяца назад +16

    Love this Chanel, the enthusiasm from mengu is un matched anywhere else on RUclips. Never stop mengu we love u!!

  • @123Perillo
    @123Perillo 2 месяца назад +19

    Just that Bob flip at the intro was worth the like

  • @henryelmhorst208
    @henryelmhorst208 2 месяца назад +25

    This makes me wish for an old school modern format ending at Journey into Nyx.

    • @Izelor
      @Izelor 2 месяца назад +4

      Most old players would argue that Magic has objectively become worse the last 10 years, which, coincidentaly, is the same period that EDH took over the game.

    • @reslime
      @reslime 2 месяца назад +1

      That was Modern's best period by far

    • @siosilvar
      @siosilvar 2 месяца назад

      That'd be great - I would miss some Tarkir cards that made it in before Eldrazi Winter, but it's nicely bounded by the 8th edition frame.

    • @SeleenShadowpaw
      @SeleenShadowpaw 2 месяца назад +1

      i think there are enough privately cultivated formats that you find one by now that ends at _any_ format.
      'everything new is terrible' isn't a rare idea, you'll just end up playing with the same three people that also think magic 'died' at the point that you do.
      And while all 'old' magic players claim it got worse in the last ten years, even older players claim it died with mirrodin. And people before that said it was onslaught.
      I would almost consider it's not the actual game quality that is really at fault here...

    • @Izelor
      @Izelor 2 месяца назад

      @@SeleenShadowpaw Mirrodin will always be the most broken block due to how powerful affinity was at the time. I don't think there has ever been a Standard deck after the dreaded Memory Jar that has been so game breaking.
      In addition, Mirrodin was the first block where the story left Dominaria and we started visiting planes that were not really connected to the story, not to mention that it was the starting point of the Modern format that a lot of people hate.
      What you can't deny is that WotC back in the day took way more creative approaches in every block in comparison to today where their usual approach is "create tokens, draw a card, double an effect, place a counter".

  • @bobbyfosher2783
    @bobbyfosher2783 2 месяца назад +4

    Tommy’s editing and the interactions between you two is why I love watching this channel over and over again

  • @darrok7
    @darrok7 2 месяца назад +11

    Mengu please do deck techs! I would love to see close ups of the cards (especially those old border!) & more context on how decks work for new players :)

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  2 месяца назад +6

      We got feedback at the beginning that we had too much air before starting the games. I posted the deck pics on RUclips community part of the channel and on twitter

    • @MrBigfatcookiemonste
      @MrBigfatcookiemonste 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MengusWorkshopmaybe show a short overview of the deck at the start, like they do during rcs on twitch (digital image of the deck)?

  • @caiodartdesign
    @caiodartdesign 2 месяца назад +14

    I love your videos, Mengu. One of the few Magic content creators I still watch.
    Btw, am I the only one who jumps the initial sneak peek? I feel like I am receiving spoilers from the videos LOL

    • @AndreaMengucci
      @AndreaMengucci 2 месяца назад +6

      The goal is to attract viewers without giving out too much. Did we succeed in that here?

    • @caiodartdesign
      @caiodartdesign 2 месяца назад +3

      @@AndreaMengucci That's for sure! No doubts. But I like to jump right into the video lol

    • @user-ud5tk4oc6r
      @user-ud5tk4oc6r 2 месяца назад

      @@AndreaMengucci In my opinion (not an editor, just a viewer), you could probably cut it shorter, like to 3-4 sentences and a cutaway shot. Sometimes the sneak peeks run several minutes, which makes them feel like regular gameplay instead of like teasers. But mostly I think it succeeds.

    • @AndreaMengucci
      @AndreaMengucci 2 месяца назад +1

      @@user-ud5tk4oc6r yeah now we’ll keep them shorter like this one

  • @Algernop_Krieger
    @Algernop_Krieger 2 месяца назад +4

    I really love these modern "time capsule" videos! More please!
    Also, a thought I had for a video idea: "What if it were unbanned". Each player gets to use one card from the list of banned modern cards and either slot it into an existing deck or build a new one around it. I think it might be a fun unhinged series in the "workshop" style.
    Keep the great content coming!

  • @Mallwan
    @Mallwan 2 месяца назад +2

    2014, from the banning of Deathrite Shaman and unbanning of Bitterblossom and Wild Nacatl to just before the Khans Block 2014 was the best modern format in my opinion. You could play so much fun decks and cards: Affinity, Faeries, BirthingPod Combo, Tron, Burn / Zoo, Splintertwin, Living End, Infect, Dath & Taxes and more. I wish this was an alternate format many pople played, just like "Edison" format in YuGiOh. It is also easy to distinguish, because in Khans Block, the card boarder changed again.

  • @zakalwe3
    @zakalwe3 2 месяца назад +9

    Loving the paper gameplay, nice work Mengu and Tommy!

  • @jacksonshatzer6075
    @jacksonshatzer6075 Месяц назад +2

    I couldn’t afford to play during this format; I was a poor college student at the time. It’s nice to see these cards in action during their prime. Thank you for sharing.

  • @8628416
    @8628416 2 месяца назад +2

    Great content. Love it! This is becoming one of my favorite MTG channels with LSV's cube content.

  • @int3r4ct
    @int3r4ct 2 месяца назад +8

    I remember Spellskite being an amazing sideboard card in the Splinter Twin days bc I was playing Affinity so it wasn’t even that bad of a card to just draw randomly after boarding.

  • @vacilusmaximuz
    @vacilusmaximuz 2 месяца назад +8

    Subscribed to keep Tommy employed.

  • @crystalcastles8856
    @crystalcastles8856 2 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for making the videos possible Tommy, I am always looking forward to the next one :D

  • @conyconychopper5375
    @conyconychopper5375 2 месяца назад +1

    thank you Tommy for the editing, it makes the videos much much more enjoyable, ask Meggu to pay you more money, you earn it

  • @GetMoneyMyrick
    @GetMoneyMyrick 2 месяца назад +2

    Thank you so much for making all of these classic games! Awesome work on the editing as always Tommy 🎉

  • @tyler2906
    @tyler2906 2 месяца назад +6

    Great video as always. Tommi does amazing work!

  • @nickraupp6104
    @nickraupp6104 2 месяца назад +1

    This was awesome! I bought into Twin two weeks before it was banned, hoping to make it my first real modern deck. Oh well! Love seeing it pop up in excellent content like this with one of my other favorite decks of all time.

  • @CheeseWedge056
    @CheeseWedge056 Месяц назад +1

    That first gane was a masterclass in exactly what got DRS banned

  • @mateusalves6455
    @mateusalves6455 2 месяца назад +2

    good job editing tommy i didnt knew u did the overlay manually. congrats

  • @matiasc003
    @matiasc003 2 месяца назад +1

    The card holder look to show the card being played is awesome!

  • @ameliakozlowska4577
    @ameliakozlowska4577 2 месяца назад +1

    Crazy video quality, and so nice now that both Mengu and Tom have such cool backgrounds 🎉

  • @thesleepinggloom2603
    @thesleepinggloom2603 2 месяца назад +1

    Your channel and card market are the only mtg gameplay I watch anymore. Thanks for putting out the best!
    Would be fun to see a throwback rematch of the 2012 players championship for modern. Eternal Command VS Jund!

  • @natankende4973
    @natankende4973 2 месяца назад +5

    Keep up the great work guys!!

  • @tbonetds
    @tbonetds 2 месяца назад +2

    Fantastic content as always, Mengu 👌🏻🇮🇹💪🏼

  • @LK90512
    @LK90512 2 месяца назад +1

    State diventando il mio canale preferito, grandissimi ragazzi!

  • @randpummill4441
    @randpummill4441 2 месяца назад +2

    12:12 Wow, never knew Gitaxian Probe was a better thoughtseize!

  • @Fizzlestumps
    @Fizzlestumps 2 месяца назад +1

    Really awesome video, these rematches are a ton of fun to watch!

  • @aidanm.655
    @aidanm.655 2 месяца назад +2

    Great match, loving the channel!

  • @pierpaologiamello
    @pierpaologiamello 2 месяца назад +1

    0:35 Splinter Twins is my best card , a piece of my Heart

  • @theducciozs3279
    @theducciozs3279 2 месяца назад +1

    Bravo Tommy, ottimo lavoro! Bel canale, vedere giocare le carte vere è per me mooolto più bello

  • @Panttz12
    @Panttz12 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the video Mengu!

  • @timfennis91
    @timfennis91 2 месяца назад +1

    You should make a video showing your card collection and how it's organized.

  • @Uzotrups
    @Uzotrups 2 месяца назад +7

    I think Bob and Bowmasters never met... Never been in the same room

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  2 месяца назад +6

      I once played them together in vintage! Ub lurrus

    • @alexherrington9142
      @alexherrington9142 2 месяца назад

      Out of curiosity, how did that go? Can't imagine well.

  • @alfredofranceschini5606
    @alfredofranceschini5606 2 месяца назад +2

    We want one match with Jund Cruise instead the confident 😂❤ That really was a good deck lul! 🎉

  • @martinneljestam1635
    @martinneljestam1635 2 месяца назад +3

    finally another video

    • @AndreaMengucci
      @AndreaMengucci 2 месяца назад +1

      And we got another one coming up on thursday with mh3 prerelease!

  • @Rueler18
    @Rueler18 Месяц назад +1

    Mengu tapping lands to the right and creatures to the left is why I have trust issues

  • @ZemanStudios
    @ZemanStudios 2 месяца назад +4

    You mentioned your bulk collection, and I was curious, how many copies of any given card do you keep before you say “that’s too many”?

  • @matichribar5823
    @matichribar5823 2 месяца назад +3

    Thanks for the video. 🎉

  • @giorgiodalmasso9288
    @giorgiodalmasso9288 2 месяца назад +1

    Token contest definitely is won by Mengu this time! 😂 So much fun!

  • @Keflus-sl8wb
    @Keflus-sl8wb 2 месяца назад +4

    We got mh3 before Splinter Twin's unban 😢

  • @aldeayeah
    @aldeayeah 2 месяца назад +1

    The existence of Splinter Twin made Jund and similar decks good. Honestly I found the ban to be such a baffling decision.

  • @Morancio
    @Morancio 2 месяца назад +1

    Hello Mengu, great video as always, i'd like to ask if it is in the channel's plans to make a discord/community? i feel that most viewers here are more interested in the 60-card side of Magic and (based on my personal experience) trying to jam some games through discord/spelltable can be hard

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  2 месяца назад

      Not at the moment. A lot of things going on and handling a discord isn’t free.

  • @orlandocuellar9441
    @orlandocuellar9441 2 месяца назад +1

    I got into modern way to late in life but the white jund looks so much fun to play

  • @Jongbelegen48plus
    @Jongbelegen48plus 2 месяца назад +2

    Hey mengu, you shoulld do jake vs calc finals of pro tour lord of the rings. Woulld love to see you pilot youre friends deck!

  • @kingjpbeats6832
    @kingjpbeats6832 2 месяца назад +2

    Yes, love it

  • @chr0606
    @chr0606 2 месяца назад +2

    At 20:40 you chose to generate. Would that not have tapped the creature? I think -1/-1 is the only real choice you should've made here?

  • @user-mf4sc8im8y
    @user-mf4sc8im8y 2 месяца назад +1

    Wonder were the blood moon on Tommy’s side board is . Used to be twins best answer against tron an twin and other decks with crazy mana bases

  • @luckilyduckily
    @luckilyduckily 2 месяца назад +3

    yipee! wahoo!

  • @matthewgrubb5708
    @matthewgrubb5708 2 месяца назад +1

    Had a rough day realizing I needed to sell a lot of cards including one of my oldest EDH decks to make rent this month. Thanks for the smiles today. It was needed. ❤

  • @giacomomantovani4485
    @giacomomantovani4485 2 месяца назад +1

    Super amusing!

  • @BushRat253
    @BushRat253 2 месяца назад +1

    You should do Splinter Twin with current cards vs. Rakdos Scam!

  • @SDWFjermex
    @SDWFjermex 2 месяца назад +1

    "Mengu has ALL THE CARDS" 😂🎉

  • @reecepruis6322
    @reecepruis6322 2 месяца назад +1

    I am here to leave a nice comment: This video was nice!

  • @hanspeter4845
    @hanspeter4845 2 месяца назад +2

    Love it

  • @odonipescara7488
    @odonipescara7488 2 месяца назад

    Gameplay Azorius Ghost x Mono Blue Mill ( Silverblack )
    ruclips.net/video/fKvBfnNu478/видео.htmlsi=v02M_nlMHgDIjCbr

  • @giacomoallovio7353
    @giacomoallovio7353 2 месяца назад +2

    hey mengu, make a video on how you store cards. i think we have all the same problem, too many cards!

  • @magerehenk7579
    @magerehenk7579 2 месяца назад +1

    What app do you use to get a Tommy to edit in those cards?

  • @enricomerlin4464
    @enricomerlin4464 2 месяца назад +1

    Jund è tipo il mio concetto di mazzo preferito "tribale carte forti"

  • @RedPandaStan
    @RedPandaStan 2 месяца назад +2

    i wanna see no banlist modern now! are holgaak and splintertwin and birthing pod good enough to compete w domain zoo or scam?

  • @MrCrazycarlwinter
    @MrCrazycarlwinter 2 месяца назад +1

    I love these retro matches.

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  2 месяца назад +1

      What s another one you suggest doing?

    • @MrCrazycarlwinter
      @MrCrazycarlwinter 2 месяца назад +1

      A buddy of mine built the decks piloted by Brian Davis and Bob Maher in the 1999 PT Chicago finals. Those are a blast to play and Im sure would be interesting to watch!​@MengusWorkshop

  • @andreadonelli3978
    @andreadonelli3978 2 месяца назад +1

    More like DRS defeats Splinter Twin. Mamma mia che bei match!❤❤

  • @user-xk5fs1zu3m
    @user-xk5fs1zu3m 2 месяца назад +1

    deathrite shaman is just WAY too good of a card, imagine it in yawgmoth right now. Murktide would be very very sad

  • @haha_Toast
    @haha_Toast 2 месяца назад +1

    Golgari charm buys more than one turn vs Twin on Exacrch, you can destroy target enchantment !

  • @user-fu7no1xu5b
    @user-fu7no1xu5b 2 месяца назад +1

    Now that I think of it, it probably wouldn't be too hard to create a program that you input the cards you want and it outputs an image like the one Tommy manually edits in. Then he could just screenshot that and add it to the editing software.
    Would you like me to create something like that for you and CardMarket? (Cause then i get more uploads since it's faster to edit)

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  2 месяца назад

      Problem is that new cards show up and go away turn after turn, i don t know how easy that is

  • @pierpaologiamello
    @pierpaologiamello 2 месяца назад +1

    1:58 certo che avevo anche jund

  • @powercornyxx3
    @powercornyxx3 2 месяца назад +1

    Leaving mandatory comment for the algorithm

  • @PlayAsDevil
    @PlayAsDevil 2 месяца назад +1

    regenerate should tap a creature or no?

  • @dangerdean9066
    @dangerdean9066 2 месяца назад +1

    2:30 Deadguy Ale?

  • @sluydfgsdjsnnnnnnnnn
    @sluydfgsdjsnnnnnnnnn 2 месяца назад +2

    Twin ban was the reason why i stopped play mtg

  • @larsegholmfischmann6594
    @larsegholmfischmann6594 2 месяца назад +1

    Ah, modern in the good old days. I had Batwing Brume as a SB card against Twin in my Esper Control Deck - they never saw it coming 😁. I don't see why Twin is still banned, and I don't even think it would be worth playing in the current meta.

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  2 месяца назад

      I just played that card today in Modern! Black Burn!

  • @valentinmanes9167
    @valentinmanes9167 2 месяца назад +1

    Mengu on fire against tommy haha. 2 wins in a row

  • @ironpig7747
    @ironpig7747 2 месяца назад +1

    what do you have keeping the life totals?

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  2 месяца назад

      Ultimate guard digital life pads

    • @ironpig7747
      @ironpig7747 2 месяца назад

      @@MengusWorkshop awesome ty! i think i may pick them up.

  • @cerocero2817
    @cerocero2817 2 месяца назад

    ¿At 6:00 couldn't Andrea have used shaman to deal 2 and the lightning bolt to win?

  • @ExtinctMorals
    @ExtinctMorals 2 месяца назад +1

    You’ve heard of modern. You’ve heard of premodern, now introducing, pre-modern modern 🔥

  • @miguelangelrodriguezdiaz7556
    @miguelangelrodriguezdiaz7556 2 месяца назад +1

    Top.

  • @vincent-antoinesoucy1872
    @vincent-antoinesoucy1872 2 месяца назад +1

    After premodern format, prehorizon modern as a format!

  • @myDarkAngelCry
    @myDarkAngelCry 2 месяца назад +1

    So epic

  • @enricovanzan769
    @enricovanzan769 2 месяца назад

    Ho do u double sleeve ur decks?

  • @pedronaranjito
    @pedronaranjito 2 месяца назад +1

    min 13 - That's not a Beta plains. Kappa

  • @waves-
    @waves- 2 месяца назад +1

    a nice comment

  • @darkinsanity98473
    @darkinsanity98473 2 месяца назад +1

    Why is it still banned along with many other cards that shouldn't be? Because the people who make those decisions are overly cautious morons. And I quit because of them, because I can't keep being disappointed when a ban ruins a deck I've heavily invested in and enjoy.

  • @MrKHall2002
    @MrKHall2002 2 месяца назад +1

    commenting

  • @kylegonewild
    @kylegonewild 2 месяца назад +1

    An excellent display of how boomer jund grinds out opponents by just not having many dead draws.

  • @konnerspears7964
    @konnerspears7964 2 месяца назад +4

    You guys should play competitive commander. I know Andrea has said he doesn't like commander because of politics, but if you play 1 v 1, politics isn't really a thing

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  2 месяца назад +1

      There s a lot of formats I enjoy and love to showcase

    • @JalebJay
      @JalebJay 2 месяца назад

      Any not just Canadian Highlander instead? Still 100 card singleton, no commanders, but copies of power.

  • @MeldrickCz
    @MeldrickCz 2 месяца назад +1

    Twin still banned, Jund out of style (if not from mind)for a long time...

  • @Jeskai
    @Jeskai 2 месяца назад +2

    1st

  • @delimann0
    @delimann0 2 месяца назад +1

    Jund !!!!