Hilleberg and Vern 2. If I had all of these tents I wouldn't sell any.................you can't make me! I've got your addiction, ha ha ha ha. I don't care.
The Nortent Vern 2 gets my respect for innovative design features, including the nose on the vestibules, the crossing pole and the side sleeping configuration. The Vern 2 has my vote!
Not sure where you camp but in scotland we have some extreme weather. After getting a tent flattend in 80mph winds, bought hillebergs including the Tarra, Soulo BL , Nallo and Nammatj. It is not the norm , but winds have been recorded in Scotland at 173mph on Cairngorm. With regard to tunnels, out of the ones I have had. The Hilleberg Tarra a hyrbid geodesic tunnel is the strongest but a pain due to the weight and bulk. The nammatj 2 would be my favourite for solo use in winter, the anjan 2 for the other 3 seasons.
Myself and partner were in the Vango 2 person tunnel tent (cant remember the Model) got caught in the rainstorm from hell. it was 150mm in 12 hours in Queensland Australia, we were bone dry for 2 days. And left to go to Cairns still dry. It was the Spirit 200+.
My son has the Nordisk Oppland 2 SI - cracking tent, I helped him seam seal it. If only you'd have included the Terra Nova Blizzard 2 in your review. I feel we should be supporting UK companies more.
I have a Nammatj 2. Awesome tent. It was hard to find one, i ended up getting it from Finland at a better price than a Soulo. Wouldn't change it for anything. Build quality, strength and peace of mind make it well worth the outlay. A tent that can go anywhere in any kind of weather. Considering a fjallraven Keb endurance atm. I don't see the point in "bargains" or compromise, i need a reliable tool i can depend on for the job! Not sure i'd buy any of the tents in the video, though i did consider the Hilleberg Kaitum at one point. Put off by it being red label. The Black label tents are so much higher spec, you get a lot of tent for the money.
Great to see someone settled in their tent choice. thanks for adding. Have you sen Tom Heaney's videos on the nammatj and his final choice? All the best , Dave.
@@Fellmandave1 Yes i have watched several of Tom Heaney's videos, it helped me decide on the Nammatj (his fave at the time). I love his extreme wind videos. I asked if he would do a more extended test with some of the tents like the samaya, i want to see them take a good beating in proper weather. Tom likes his light stuff, i went extreme elsewhere with my kit to counter the weight penalty.
Very thorough and informative video as usual Dave, thanks! A full 4 season Tindheim would be awesome, and basically the Nammatj 2 which I wish was just a bit longer and taller. To say most of those tents weigh in at around a Soulo they're definitely more tempting
As an alternative to the Sydvang Skaring 2P, I would definately urge prople to take a look at the Robens Voyager 2EX or Robens Pioneer 2EX - the Robens tents are also known to be extremely durable against strong wind. This was a great video, nice one!
@@Fellmandave1 I bought the Robens Starlight 2 first, and then later for the vestibule space got the Robens Voyager 2EX. They're very sturdy tents, great value for money.
@Fellmandave1 Not yet. I only finished seam sealing it a week or so ago. Recovering from possibly Lymes disease at the moment after a wild camp a few weeks ago 🤒
I have a Sydvang Skaring 2p but not ultra light like you have. Mostly I use this tent in winter time. It is heavy tent, but I don't have any problems with this tent in strong wind and heavy snow. The quality for that price is very good.
Enjoyable as always, Dave. I love my Vango F10 Xenon UL2, which is slightly on the heavier side for a solo camper, but the room it gives is great. I'm currently looking at modifying it a bit to try to increase the strength in windier conditions (coming to a RUclips channel near here soon!). All the very best.
Thank you A4A. Yes the Xenon is a great tent, just wish they had double guyed it and made the poles a bit less pencil like. But that all adds to the weight I guess. thanks for commenting and all the best to you too!
would love to see what you do to it. If I had the skills I would like to add a guy on each side panel (centre) and also a peg spot at the centre bottom of the side panels.
This is really helpful - thanks Dave. I have a Nallo 2GT for winter camping and a duplex Zip for backpacking. That said i cant believe how comfy the Nallo is and i am sorely tempted to use it more often!
If you give me the kaitum. That will make up for my ripped tent. Which is probably your fault. So that’s fair. Thanks. I’m very happy and excited about my new tent. 👌
More Oafness? My friend Andy who I loaned it from is a brooding ex military type who likes bivying, and 'blending in'. So if I gave you the Nammatj it's both of us bundled into the back of a van with a pillow case over our heads.
I have the Nordisk Oppland 2 LW. I wanted a tent of this type with an extended vestibule and this was the lightest tent of this type by far, hence it won out for me and I purchased it a few weeks ago. Only issue I have is with the poles as mine are nearly 200g heavier than I expected when compared to someone else with the same tent on you tube. I think this is because the poles are not made by DAC anymore but they have not updated the stats. I am still waiting to hear back from Nordisk on this matter.
I am only a few minutes into the video, but as an alternative to the «budget» Sydvang tent, may I suggest the Naturehike Opalus tent? A very nice tent for the price, with similar features as the Sydvang, who atleast here in Norway is considered as a budget option compared to the Fjallraven brand.
Yes I know sydvang do some cheaper tents but this silnylon one feels quite premium. But, that's slightly beside the point as it is the extended tunnel offering. Unfortunately I did not have an abisko! Thanks and enjoy the rest.😊
@@Fellmandave1 Thank you, I did enjoy the rest and of course as a Nortent fanboy I did also agree with your conclusion. 🙂 That being said, I do think the Sydvang is a very interesting tent that provides excellent value for money and quality wise probably more than good enough for most people. I have of course seen your videos, and have been very tempted to purchase it for myself.
Hey Fellman all your Tents are great and its quite an line up you got there..and you even went budget with the Vango.. Which is especially good as those tents are only discounted in price and certainly never on quality..I use the Vango Banshee 200 an excellent little tent that looks very good out there in fact I once got some positive feedback regards the kit and Tent from Police Officer's attending to some rowdy campers...Anyway I never follow aggressive parties out in the wild but some better advice is Vango if your on an budget as that brand does what it says on the tin and it don't cost an arm and an leg either but just be sure you don't hook up with aggressive parties cos you don't want to spoil that nice shiny new Vango do you?
Fellman I could not agree more as those who may wish to take up the pursuit cannot go wrong with Vango's excellent tents and highly competitive pricing...This brand has some name and Its great to hear you recommend them... I hope your advice regards all the tents you highlight here helps to make for an good and wise choice...Also got to admit its not so easy to get an good look around and into the best tents available on the market but your tour and inspection of the tents in this respect gave us an real feel to them and should be found for any deciding an purchase to be extremely helpful and insightful..Thanks again Fellman 😀
Glad you like it. Thanks for watching Tom and well done on keeping your attention span all the way through. You'll be pleased to see this had me loving a Hillie.
One thing to be aware of is different tent manufacturers price their products differently in different countries such as Msr are priced at a approximately the same value in most countries as depending on exchange rates whereas tents that are actually made in Europe vary greatly depending on local market prices. It should be noted that import duties now applied to imports from Europe to the uk can put as much as £200 on to the price of a tent, it’s actually considerably cheaper for me to buy a Hilleberg tent in Australia than the uk due to no import duties or tariffs being applied. Makes you wonder where all the uk tax ends up but that’s an another subject.
Definitely the Nortent as they don't rest on their laurels and actually listen to feedback. Along with real-world testing, like leaving a tent out in all weather for eight months.
Still have it Will, still love it, but too many tents, too little nights to use them. Storm star would still be a chouce for a night up high in a storm, but I am enjoying other options. i have yet to test the Ver's in strong winds so that is something I am keen to do. Thanks for commenting.
@Fellmandave1 yes I know the feeling. I have too many geodesic tents, including the storm star . Haven't tried the tunnel tents yet, maybe I'll start🤔🤣
Yeah... I have to agree... The Hilderberg is ridiculously overpriced and in all honesty too large for a single/couple backpacking, where weight to size ration is important... The MSR likewise... The Sydvang I'm neutral and Vango - always a popular brand with Scouts... Is an excellent budget tent, but with many rivals... So yes, I'd go for the Nortent Vern 2 of this batch. I like that extra diagnal tensioning pole and end 'snout' vents and the ease of ingress/egress both sides, where there is equaL cooking/doing stuff space at your elbows. I like the idea of brewing tea from my sleeping bag... It looks more aerodynamic that the others and would probably fair better in windy conditions. Nice tent.
Although I understand what 'footprint' means, I call a groundsheet a groundsheet.... As for lighting stoves in tent vestibules, - if they're as big as these featured, no problem. Just remember the laws of physics - and chemistry - that carbon monoxide and dioxide is the threat, not necessarilly the flame/heat of the stove itself. I've made loads of single mess hot meals in even the vestibule of my diminutive one person Ultimate Equipment backpacker ' Wind-sock' tunnel tent. Dogs? In a tent? In the inner tent? Inbetween sleeping humans? On yer bike! I don't do dogs, but if I did, it would sleep in the vestibule. Muddy - SHARP dog claws in a tent? LOL.
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Hilleberg and Vern 2. If I had all of these tents I wouldn't sell any.................you can't make me! I've got your addiction, ha ha ha ha. I don't care.
Fine choice. You can only keep them all if you have 9 kids.
Stuff that! I had to look 35 in the Navy.
The Nortent Vern 2 gets my respect for innovative design features, including the nose on the vestibules, the crossing pole and the side sleeping configuration. The Vern 2 has my vote!
It's discontinued, but an excellent tent. Nortent Ly2 out soon!
Not sure where you camp but in scotland we have some extreme weather. After getting a tent flattend in 80mph winds, bought hillebergs including the Tarra, Soulo BL , Nallo and Nammatj. It is not the norm , but winds have been recorded in Scotland at 173mph on Cairngorm.
With regard to tunnels, out of the ones I have had. The Hilleberg Tarra a hyrbid geodesic tunnel is the strongest but a pain due to the weight and bulk. The nammatj 2 would be my favourite for solo use in winter, the anjan 2 for the other 3 seasons.
Cheers DG, camp chiefly in northumberland but sometimes Scotland.
Myself and partner were in the Vango 2 person tunnel tent (cant remember the Model) got caught in the rainstorm from hell. it was 150mm in 12 hours in Queensland Australia, we were bone dry for 2 days. And left to go to Cairns still dry. It was the Spirit 200+.
Sounds fun!
My son has the Nordisk Oppland 2 SI - cracking tent, I helped him seam seal it. If only you'd have included the Terra Nova Blizzard 2 in your review. I feel we should be supporting UK companies more.
I did want that in and had contacted Terra Nova! No reply.
I have a Nammatj 2. Awesome tent. It was hard to find one, i ended up getting it from Finland at a better price than a Soulo. Wouldn't change it for anything. Build quality, strength and peace of mind make it well worth the outlay. A tent that can go anywhere in any kind of weather. Considering a fjallraven Keb endurance atm. I don't see the point in "bargains" or compromise, i need a reliable tool i can depend on for the job! Not sure i'd buy any of the tents in the video, though i did consider the Hilleberg Kaitum at one point. Put off by it being red label. The Black label tents are so much higher spec, you get a lot of tent for the money.
Great to see someone settled in their tent choice. thanks for adding. Have you sen Tom Heaney's videos on the nammatj and his final choice?
All the best , Dave.
@@Fellmandave1 Yes i have watched several of Tom Heaney's videos, it helped me decide on the Nammatj (his fave at the time). I love his extreme wind videos. I asked if he would do a more extended test with some of the tents like the samaya, i want to see them take a good beating in proper weather. Tom likes his light stuff, i went extreme elsewhere with my kit to counter the weight penalty.
I ‘d chose the Vern 2. A fresh and unique approach.
agreed
Very thorough and informative video as usual Dave, thanks!
A full 4 season Tindheim would be awesome, and basically the Nammatj 2 which I wish was just a bit longer and taller. To say most of those tents weigh in at around a Soulo they're definitely more tempting
Oooaye, the elusive perfect tent. Thanks for the support!
Great reviews - thanks!
I'd take the Vern 2, it's got a great feature set, good price and I really like the extra vestibule. Thanks again 👍
Thanks Andy, this has not had many views yet and took a lot of putting togther, so I appreciate the comment.
I've a few 4 season tents, I tend to use my fjallraven abisko endurance 2.
Very nice!
Proud owner of a Vern 2😊
Me too! Thanks for adding.
As an alternative to the Sydvang Skaring 2P, I would definately urge prople to take a look at the Robens Voyager 2EX or Robens Pioneer 2EX - the Robens tents are also known to be extremely durable against strong wind.
This was a great video, nice one!
Cheers buddy, yes, I thought about those Robens afterwards. Very cool tents .
@@Fellmandave1 I bought the Robens Starlight 2 first, and then later for the vestibule space got the Robens Voyager 2EX. They're very sturdy tents, great value for money.
Good review. I've the vern 1 and definitely found the weight Nortent quote is slightly under the actual weight.
Naughty tent manufacturers. How do you like the vern 1 Stephen? Had it in any strong wind yet?
@Fellmandave1 Not yet. I only finished seam sealing it a week or so ago. Recovering from possibly Lymes disease at the moment after a wild camp a few weeks ago 🤒
Jeez, get well soon Stephen, there but for the grace of god go I. @@stephenbell8815
I have a Sydvang Skaring 2p but not ultra light like you have.
Mostly I use this tent in winter time. It is heavy tent, but I don't have any problems with this tent in strong wind and heavy snow.
The quality for that price is very good.
Thanks for sharing! I am actually reluctantly selling mine.
Enjoyable as always, Dave. I love my Vango F10 Xenon UL2, which is slightly on the heavier side for a solo camper, but the room it gives is great. I'm currently looking at modifying it a bit to try to increase the strength in windier conditions (coming to a RUclips channel near here soon!). All the very best.
Thank you A4A. Yes the Xenon is a great tent, just wish they had double guyed it and made the poles a bit less pencil like. But that all adds to the weight I guess. thanks for commenting and all the best to you too!
would love to see what you do to it. If I had the skills I would like to add a guy on each side panel (centre) and also a peg spot at the centre bottom of the side panels.
This is really helpful - thanks Dave. I have a Nallo 2GT for winter camping and a duplex Zip for backpacking. That said i cant believe how comfy the Nallo is and i am sorely tempted to use it more often!
Just use the kit you enjoy David.Carrying it only makes you stronger! 😉 Thanks for commenting. D
Great effort Dave. Very thorough and very interesting. Id agree with the vern 2 overall 😊
Thank you for your appreciation. Most appreciated.
If you give me the kaitum. That will make up for my ripped tent. Which is probably your fault. So that’s fair.
Thanks.
I’m very happy and excited about my new tent. 👌
More Oafness? My friend Andy who I loaned it from is a brooding ex military type who likes bivying, and 'blending in'. So if I gave you the Nammatj it's both of us bundled into the back of a van with a pillow case over our heads.
@@Fellmandave1 no. I will give him my bivvi.
Winning
plenty choice of extra space for those long winter nights👍your catching up to andrew park🤔🤣
Oh yes, but Andrew does the right thing and sells his tents on. I cant bare to part with mine!
I have the Nordisk Oppland 2 LW. I wanted a tent of this type with an extended vestibule and this was the lightest tent of this type by far, hence it won out for me and I purchased it a few weeks ago.
Only issue I have is with the poles as mine are nearly 200g heavier than I expected when compared to someone else with the same tent on you tube. I think this is because the poles are not made by DAC anymore but they have not updated the stats. I am still waiting to hear back from Nordisk on this matter.
Not ideal. Thanks for the info and enjoy the Nordisk.
I am only a few minutes into the video, but as an alternative to the «budget» Sydvang tent, may I suggest the Naturehike Opalus tent? A very nice tent for the price, with similar features as the Sydvang, who atleast here in Norway is considered as a budget option compared to the Fjallraven brand.
Yes I know sydvang do some cheaper tents but this silnylon one feels quite premium. But, that's slightly beside the point as it is the extended tunnel offering. Unfortunately I did not have an abisko! Thanks and enjoy the rest.😊
@@Fellmandave1 Thank you, I did enjoy the rest and of course as a Nortent fanboy I did also agree with your conclusion. 🙂
That being said, I do think the Sydvang is a very interesting tent that provides excellent value for money and quality wise probably more than good enough for most people.
I have of course seen your videos, and have been very tempted to purchase it for myself.
Hey Fellman all your Tents are great and its quite an line up you got there..and you even went budget with the Vango.. Which is especially good as those tents are only discounted in price and certainly never on quality..I use the Vango Banshee 200 an excellent little tent that looks very good out there in fact I once got some positive feedback regards the kit and Tent from Police Officer's attending to some rowdy campers...Anyway I never follow aggressive parties out in the wild but some better advice is Vango if your on an budget as that brand does what it says on the tin and it don't cost an arm and an leg either but just be sure you don't hook up with aggressive parties cos you don't want to spoil that nice shiny new Vango do you?
Many of us hold vango in a special place in our camping hearts, me included.
Fellman I could not agree more as those who may wish to take up the pursuit cannot go wrong with Vango's excellent tents and highly competitive pricing...This brand has some name and Its great to hear you recommend them... I hope your advice regards all the tents you highlight here helps to make for an good and wise choice...Also got to admit its not so easy to get an good look around and into the best tents available on the market but your tour and inspection of the tents in this respect gave us an real feel to them and should be found for any deciding an purchase to be extremely helpful and insightful..Thanks again Fellman 😀
No worries!
You love the long videos... I dont.... great content though and sensible recommendations... best wishes Tom
Glad you like it. Thanks for watching Tom and well done on keeping your attention span all the way through. You'll be pleased to see this had me loving a Hillie.
One thing to be aware of is different tent manufacturers price their products differently in different countries such as Msr are priced at a approximately the same value in most countries as depending on exchange rates whereas tents that are actually made in Europe vary greatly depending on local market prices. It should be noted that import duties now applied to imports from Europe to the uk can put as much as £200 on to the price of a tent, it’s actually considerably cheaper for me to buy a Hilleberg tent in Australia than the uk due to no import duties or tariffs being applied.
Makes you wonder where all the uk tax ends up but that’s an another subject.
Just when you thought the choice was clear!
I missed the tent fish... 😂 thx for posting...
Tent fish only does overnighters.
Great Review Topman
Top comment!
@@Fellmandave1 what are your thoughts on the OEX Coyote 3 tent and for use by one thanks Richard
I would add Jack Wolfskin Gossamer 2 as a competent contender too
seems to have disappeared from jack Wolfskins site.
@@Fellmandave1 I think it is now called "Star Tunnel 2" for some bizarre reason.
Definitely the Nortent as they don't rest on their laurels and actually listen to feedback. Along with real-world testing, like leaving a tent out in all weather for eight months.
Yes that was excellent!
Hey chap..could you do lightweight vid? 😊
Not really my thing Jason.
Great review.😍
Cheers. Great channel name!
Nortent for me
Good choice!
Could I ask what fleece that was you were wearing Dave please?
Montane wolf Andy
Hi. Do still use the kuiu storm star ? Or are completely sold on the tunnel tent now?
Still have it Will, still love it, but too many tents, too little nights to use them. Storm star would still be a chouce for a night up high in a storm, but I am enjoying other options. i have yet to test the Ver's in strong winds so that is something I am keen to do. Thanks for commenting.
@Fellmandave1 yes I know the feeling. I have too many geodesic tents, including the storm star . Haven't tried the tunnel tents yet, maybe I'll start🤔🤣
@@willbrownless8739 favourites Will?
Whatever happened to the Nanok Domus tunnel tents?
Who?
I have a vango soul 200..no problems (yet)
Only paid 55 quid. Just can't justify much more..disability makes finding work extremely difficult
Always loved vangos
Hilliberg.
It's a great tent!
Yeah... I have to agree... The Hilderberg is ridiculously overpriced and in all honesty too large for a single/couple backpacking, where weight to size ration is important... The MSR likewise... The Sydvang I'm neutral and Vango - always a popular brand with Scouts... Is an excellent budget tent, but with many rivals... So yes, I'd go for the Nortent Vern 2 of this batch. I like that extra diagnal tensioning pole and end 'snout' vents and the ease of ingress/egress both sides, where there is equaL cooking/doing stuff space at your elbows. I like the idea of brewing tea from my sleeping bag... It looks more aerodynamic that the others and would probably fair better in windy conditions. Nice tent.
Thank you for adding your perspective. I am glad you agree!
Most tents are short for me! I’m 6’3”!
Awkward😄
I never cook inside a tent too dangerous - i cook outside with a windbreak as accidents happening
Thanks Tom, just needed to make it long as you have sooooo much to learn from me. Besides, there is nothing to do up your way is there? Cheers buddy.
Cheers Andy, risk and choice.
Although I understand what 'footprint' means, I call a groundsheet a groundsheet.... As for lighting stoves in tent vestibules, - if they're as big as these featured, no problem. Just remember the laws of physics - and chemistry - that carbon monoxide and dioxide is the threat, not necessarilly the flame/heat of the stove itself. I've made loads of single mess hot meals in even the vestibule of my diminutive one person Ultimate Equipment backpacker ' Wind-sock' tunnel tent.
Dogs? In a tent? In the inner tent? Inbetween sleeping humans? On yer bike! I don't do dogs, but if I did, it would sleep in the vestibule. Muddy - SHARP dog claws in a tent? LOL.
Good point on the CO . Well dogs, it's a dog thing...
OMG your poor grass...
Hahaha. It was a nightmare.
Hilleberg ..elitist prices
I guess in all markets there is a place for that sector.
Great choice of tents but I'll stick with my saitaris
Nice tent Michael, managed to use it in rough conditions at all?