2016 Personality Lecture 02: Introduction and Overview (Part 2)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Hi all: this is the second lecture in my University of Toronto Personality course, finishing the overview of what will be covered. Much of the content will be new (compared to 2015).
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I'm going through all his lectures right now and I just want to voice out my support to him and his family. No amount of heartless criticism will snuff out the light and hope that you have brought to countless people. God bless you Dr. Peterson and family.
revert to primordial soup well said, now more than ever. A great man trying to square higher thinking with the masses. I love this series of lectures and how he lays it out.
@@1970Jelly who was watching neon genesis ??
Amen 🙏🏽
"Jung is terrifying" - I love reading Jung! I go to sleep listening to his books.
Reminds me of the phrase "Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable."
Johnny Phonetits I live and breath for the uncomfortable and painful experiences that eventually lead to growth. His warnings are nothing to me.
Paul Purail your taking what he said literally. He actually means art figuratively. Art should be a way to communicate the emotions that are far to complicated for words. It’s not to say people can’t miss-interpret art but, art should be a way to show raw emotion in ways only the people who have experienced the emotional complexities the art is communicating. Or just best way to express our sad experiences or in other words pain so complicated. To truly appreciate certain art you need to have experienced the pain I order to understand the art and the kind of message the art is saying. Well that’s my short interpretation on “Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable
I love Jung too ☺️ where have you got hold of his audio books?
Jean Vandepoele Jung sends me to sleep too :P
@@_Cato_ well stated. You are a pretty smart person without a dont
Prof. Peterson, thank you. If anyone could understand the profound impact these lectures can have on an individual's life it's you.
Started watching all the videos of Dr. Peterson since December. I have limited my reading time so I can watch every single video to see what I can learn and I have watched every single one up to here and so I decided I was going to write a comment so I could keep record. Hi everyone 😊
This man has IQ in the top 10%
Did you make it through all his lectures? =D
I've just started the journey.
Did it change you?
Any tips?
Did you take notes during, after, watched vids twice etc.
I feel like if i write stuff down I'll miss just focusing on what he's saying. But then later it's hard to remember everything.
Did you find a resource online thar supports his lectures?
@@joeygurzynski7074 I think it took me 4 or 5 months, I filled a notebook with notes and since then started the path to reading a bunch of his recommendations. Have a few of them left but all of that time has been well worth it.
Roughly speaking, this is awesome
And thats that
I just bought the hardback edition of your book and it FELT GOOD. Thanks for sharing your lectures.
"You want to make them better, and better is not a scientific category."
A stunningly clear allegory of 90% of human problems.
ninjaassassin27 perhaps it is - if «better» constitutes the things that will raise your quality of life and those around you in a sustainable manner , and that that requires a collaboration with how we scientifically are constructed to thrive - there are things that objectively is bad and good for us, that corrolates with science .. ofc both simple and immensely complicated categories ..
His comment sections are one of the best I’ve ever seen so full of people with hope
Best wishes for you Dr. Peterson hope you get better
You have definitely touched me in a huge way and I can't thank you enough! I have a long way to go but working on it and feeling good about it.
He's saying that IQ is the greatest predictor of success, but in his new series he says it is the second, and conscientiousness is the greatest
Same same dude... you ever thought maybe ppl get new info, learn new things, update their opinions etc?
His ability to weave together different myths and mix in scientific findings, to make a coherent narrative (or a lecture) is astounding, and he throws in a bit of humour here and there which shows his mastery of the art. These students are so lucky to have JP as a professor.
Also that laugh 2:52, is definitely a Freudian slip 🤣
Sir you're giving me the taste for philosophy, a subject I dreaded at college and at the graduate school.
Knowledge is power 😎 Dr Peterson is on another level 👊
why do I always start watching your videos at like 6 am in the morning when I can't sleep again ?
That product placement at 46:00
Thanks for bringing us the message Jonah, I mean Jordon, I mean with respect and gratitude Professor J Peterson
thank you Dr. Peterson
Absolutely amazing this whole lecture is up on youtube. What a hero. Would be really interesting to see some of the conversations, surrounding objective and subjective reality, with the newer advancements in quantum mechanics.
In 2019 the wigner and wigners friend experiment was replicated using quantum mechanics and shown to be true. This suggests that perhaps there is no such thing as objective reality. Kinda scary to be honest 😂
shameless advertising at 45:59 :p
My high orderliness is much happier I am now watching these lectures in sequence, than my previous chaotic dabbling approach.
The man with 5% of his brain actually had much more than that, but it was compressed by fluid over time, *taking up* only about 10% of the space it normally would.
Could you provide a source, i'm lazy?
Incredible lecture
From what I understand re. the brain and conciousness is that the man with cerebral fluid in his skull still had the same brain mass it was just compressed and also birds have denser brains too so this answers this particular point.
I know this is from an older class.. but does anyone have access to the syllabus to follow along with the reading material for this class?
You might want to try his website : www. Jordan Peterson. Com
He said it in his 1st lecture
Can you show us your screen where you project diffferent images ?
I’m just curious (I hope you have time to think about it even if you don’t respond to it), is there even a single word in the English language that you don’t know? I wouldn’t assume that there is, you seem to know everything about everything. I certainly hope that you’re remembered like Jung and Nietzsche. I mean, you deserve it!
Well, I'm pretty sure nobody knows all words of a certain language 🤔
Those ideas that have us remind me of pendulums from books of V. Zeland '' Reality transurfing''.
Insightful
45:59 "Same great taste, zero sugar"
39:48 That liberals-conservatives depiction in business was spot on!
Thanks Dr. Peterson, love these lectures.
If the sub personalities are living entities and things that plan, can they be "tamed" or wrangled into submission as we mature or are we destined to be a slave to our passions?
Where can I find the picture described around 41:00? Thanks in advance!
44:44 Jordan- I wonder and anticipate if Northrop Frye will come up in these lectures. If I don't hear his name, I would have to assume it is only because you haven't read him. Regardless, I appreciate the uploaded videos and course material so thank you!
I would have the following Question to Prof. Peterson: we hear that brain size developed in reagrd to group size. Geoffrey Miller has the theory that brain size is an sexual ornament like the peacocks tail, as we use our brains for arts (music, painting, literature.....) which is not necessary to survive, so brain size would be more to outcompete male rivals than to interact with others......do we have to see this as two contradictionary theories??? Thanks in advance for clarification!
If Star Wars and Harry Potter are popular because they're updated mythology and people get immersed in that, then how the hell did so many idjits swallow that Twilight vampire garbage? Where was the allure in that or was it something pathological?
they also relate to Jungian archetypes.
At 46:00 anyone else though he was going to start advertising for Coke Zero lol
so in 7 billion population, there's 700 million people that cant do anything worthy.
I disagree with you in that you can't force yourself to do things you don't want to. You absolutely can if you have the self-discipline and the intrinsic motivation.
Danil Thorstensson it's not motivation that makes people do things they don't want to do. It's learned skills
I must comment on the dichotomy presented between Conservatives and Liberals. Asia is almost entirely conservative. Lee Yuan Kew in only a few decades built up Singapore from nothing into a major economic player, and a stunningly beautiful place. He is a conservative, but to perform his magic he worked very hard to build coalitions comprised of very different peoples....Chinese, Maylasian/Indonesian Muslims and Hindus while simultaneously reaching out to all the business and shipping communities of the world to convince them that Singapore is the place to be, at least on the way to some other place.
Somewhat similarly, in India, Manmohan Singh, a conservative (he's a Seikh), engineered India's turn from socialism/communism to socialism/capitalism, which he could only do through coalition building. As a result, about 300 million people have been lifted out of crushing poverty to middle class, and many formerly middle class people are now living quite comfortably.
It is often said that Asia copies while the West innovates. I think that is due to the retardation caused by colonialism. Asia today does innovate, Japan leading the way since the 1960s, and we owe the miraculous invention of the white led (which is technically blue) to Japan.
Meanwhile I have seen pics of tomato plants in India that outproduce those in the West by about 10 to 1....their all tomato and almost no plant! I've yet to see these in the USA.
Meanwhile, in the USA, the Longshoreman's Union has resisted implementation of robotic loading and unloading of containers.....as Ayn Rand pointed out in Atlas Shrugged, it is the Left, not the conservatives, that oppose innovation.
now there is one thing about the jonah story that people never mention ninava was the capital city of syria there were some wars other countries got conquered now the capital is damascus but in jonah's time the would fillet people alive so it was more of " yeah i don't want to go to the place where they torture people for fun "
You speak about so much that you make people ask multiple questions. How do people come to terms with abuse, physical or sexual or both? What is the answer to that?
Does anyone have the reading list for his module?
30:13 - 30:41 ba dum tsss
old enough to be written on sheep skin which is what Jewish torahs are traditionally written on and probably written on that before anyone invented forms of paper like papyrus. Can't imagine the discipline it takes to hand scribe that much wording on that kind of medium because if you make a mistake there's really no way to correct and skin is very expensive even more so three thousand years ago. I think they are still to this day hand copied on to sheep skin "sacrificial element" to it and most likely has to be done by kosher law with a rabbi overseeing and all the rest of the rules and regulations just to get the "paper".
That coke zero ad
He drinks Coca Cola Zero too, I am on the right path
You're like the Sapolsky of psychology haha
meaning you look in the same places as everyone else but seem to see a "better" picture
Im shocked by Peterson say that Haideger was "somewhat tangled up with nazis" this is lip sevice. here is what Herbert Marcuse wrote him in 1948: "Common sense ... refuses to view you as a philosopher, because philosophy and Nazism are irreconcilable" ...The philosopher of 1933-34 cannot be completely different than the one prior to 1933; all the less so, insofar as you expressed and grounded your enthusiastic justification of the Nazi state in philosophical terms." Heideger saw in Nazism "a spiritual renewal of life in its entirety," a "redemption of occidental Dasein from the dangers of communism"
Gertrud Himmelfarb "On Looking Into the Abyss: Untimely Thoughts on Culture and Society" critisizes Heidegger and his ideas and scholars who use his ideas
Man, that background noise is annoying as fuck. Why won't they just go outside?
not to mention Jews hated the Ninevites because the ninevites were pretty nasty to the Israelites so Jonah hated the idea of even trying to mention to them that they could be doomed he just wanted god to smote them and smile about it
well the story of Jonah(PBUH) is a miracle and miracles are super natural and is something that our mind can't grasp and is beyond our thinking. Jonah(PBUH) lived in the stomach that contains strong acid, poisonous gases and crush you with its strong muscles, that's why its a miracle and is worth mentioning to human beings in Bible and Quran.
Check out the you tube channel apostate prophet
The Quran has quite a different telling of the story. Look it up.
I must comment: It is too simplistic to say that people don't have political ideas, but ideas have them. Typically people adopt political ideas that represent gain and advantage to they themselves and the subgroup in which they commune. A great example of this egg before chicken situation are the communist revolutions in Russia and China. In both cases the populations were about 90% impoverished and over-taxed, abused, and caught up in wars waged by overly egotistical warlords. Those who supported the revolutions were those who expected gain if the revolution was successful. Yes, they would parrot common revolutionary phrases, but they all knew that such parroting was an act of taking a stand for that which they saw as gain for themselves and their subgroup. Of course at those times the subgroup was in the majority and the revolutions were successful. You can hardly blame the revolutionaries, though things did not turn out as rosy as they had hoped, but at least day to day existence was relieved of some burden and uncertainty as compared with the past.
Those opposed to communist revolutions were of course acting to protect their priveledge But in that group, and commenting from the outside, were those who extrapolated that "rule by the people" would be corrupt at best, and disasterous at worse, which is how communism turned out. In the case of those "extrapolators" we see persons whose politics was formed by an idea, based in history, regarding how things really are with humans.
But in any case the ideas of expected gain or loss and frank assessment of human behavior are the source of the choice of political stances.
Insightful
I didn't understand the significance of the story at the end.
yeah,life is nothing,that's true....unless you make something out of it so I would tell people that keep saying this "go do something useful"
I wonder if professor has a sponsorship with coca cola.
Excellently presented!
Love that quote: "You're brain doesn't let you do anything important"
"Fiction is a lie that tells the truth"
Your brain, not you're brain
@@comentario-ur8rd what if I am, in fact, brain?
46:10
Yes, professor. We do have the a version of the story of Jonah in the Quran, but in arabic his name is Yunus :)
Dr. David Wood is an American Christian Apologist who destroys Islam. He is very knowledgeable about the religion of submission and I've learnt a lot about Islam by watching his videos.
I use "Master Blaster" from Mad Max as a metaphor to describe the relationship between the conscious mind and the unconscious mind. Or maybe 4 midgets riding on each others shoulders under a raincoat would be better LOL
Did anyone find the reading list that accompanies these awesome lectures?
@Karen Larsson jordanbpeterson.com/great-books/
dont know if this was the things u were looking for
Rohit Tripathi thank you for posting the link 👍
I'm a mature undergraduate interested in personality and the self, and I have only watched the first two lectures so far, but these are the most exciting psychology lectures I have ever seen. Thank you!
One problem, that other commenters below have also noted, the links for the course reading outline on your site (and the Big 5 paper you linked below) do not work. Is there any chance that this could be looked at so that I may get the reading list?
Thanks again, for the amazing lectures.
Jon King same Iam also new to this
Did u find the reading list?
Thanks Prof. Peterson. I have 1 little question:
I am already watching "Maps of Meaning 2015" what will I miss if I don't go with 2016?
Well I got some tip for you. Leave it and get back to 2016/2017 or any newer 1-2 years later, and in meantime check other lectures. Seriously, you will probably get much more from this lecture if you will get back to it after some time, and btw you will check newer version. ;)
I'm a bit confused about how all personality traits are just factors of IQ. Or did I miss something?
@@ggrthemostgodless8713 hey, can u help me with how to read Nietzsche, and not just in a way where im just reading but can comprehend also.
@@ggrthemostgodless8713 every heard of a AUDIOBOOK?
In Soviet Russia ideas have you.
- Jung
"Engineers discovered intelligence" - 32:33. Thank you for confirming my engineer elitism.
engineers are useful while social scientists are ideologues
This guy makes me want to re-do my psych degrees altogether. The depths he goes to weren't as present in the courses I did 👀
Whats with all the "product placement" comments. Why does he HAVE to be promoting coke?
Im curious to know what the reading list for this class was please?
Did you ever find the reading list? I'm looking for it as well.
Yeah, just go to the website under "courses", and most of the books at least are listed under "Lecture Readings".
jordanbpeterson.com/classes/personality-and-its-transformations/
@@Angela-fv5pb thanks
That Jonah story would be hilarious if the whale threw him up on the shores of the city God told him to visit.
Kettle of fish lol
I found the Crumb documentary hard to watch, boring, a little racist and with little to learn from it. I enjoy JP lectures tremendously but I saw very little interesting to that documentary.
Well all things aside..
Jordan peterson is cute
I got this idea at many points in lecture 😂
Like how he would state a general opinion and would oppose it with such enthusiasm & eye roll
So like if the anger subpersonality gives access more or less to the memories of annoyances- can I reason that the anger subpersonality is the part of the psyche that 'has' (or at least has the access to) those memories?
@31:45 Which papers is he talking about by Swanson & Grey?
13:50 - “one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it” Master Oogway
Jordan Peterson "I had a really strange Professor."
Listening to JBP is a breath of fresh air.
"Fiction is a lie that can tell you the truth"
I have a question that might or might not be strictly related to this topic but the thing is I couldn't really find a place where to write it and it says: ¿Does dominance inside a couple or just between 2 people, not agressiveness, not histeria and definitely not violence but just the dominance attribute, does it originally belong to males or females? and ¿Why is that? I ask this because I see there are a lot of women these days that feel like hitting on men and asking them out and occupying a dominant role and I usually have problems with this kind of person because I'm somehow dominant too, so we collide and I want to know if I am the one who has a problem or they are, if this could be simplified or seen as a "problem" because it probably can't, maybe its more complex than that. Thanks in advance for the query. Love your lectures and debates, professor. Regards.
the idea of ideas have people not people have ideas has possessed me to think of past experiences and got me to write this boring cliche. Why did you do this to me!?!? Thank you Dr. Peterson. :)
the people of Nineveh are assyrian
The people of London are British, but they're also 'Londoners'.
I wonder if he is really obsessed with coke or just promoting there product.😂😂
The recitation of the Book of Jonah in this video is not accurate. Read it for yourself.
I suspect that before an idea has anyone, they choose to surrender to that idea.
The more I listen to Dr. Peterson, the more brilliant he seems. He truly stands on the back of giants.
Help. Please I'm able to see the 2015 episodes 7 and 8 Why? Thanks
Thank God for Jordan Peterson!
Prof, do you know a reliable online IQ test?
Nice little Coke zero plug, i love iiiiiiit.
I wanted to say that I'm NOT.
Keep posting! 👌👍👂
14:44 Note to self
Can any body clarify what is he talking about at 28:43 - it sounds like “edd”like structures of the brain... What “edd” is he talking about?
yusupovm-“Id” structures-as in Freud’s categories of the Id, Ego and the Super-ego.
3 ideologues don't like this video.
And Jordan Peterson, where do you thinking come from? You are also in the system, richt?
The view count from the first video dropped in half for the second video. As I work my way through all of these lectures (just an interested person, I’m not attending university) I’m going to look at the view count and question why so many people (presuming that is the case) lost interest.
Also you need to take in to account things such as the fact that this is just an intro to the class. This video is the second half of the intro. Basically he goes through what and who and why. Also most ppl might skip parts or videos to get to the "good stuff" or something specific Or time constraints, real life issues etc can also be factors.
what problem is this??* i feel i have died and have become a copy or
ego extension of my step mothers sister and her nephew-- i feel they r
in my head 24/7 like if my head is a house then they r the home
owner and i am just a pathetic tenant i cant get them outta my head
even if i was to choke to death -i like to say -when i was 9
years old this very step mothers nephew he tried to kill me by
hitting me on the head with a hammer- i suffered a terrible
concussion but i survived this attack any ways although with
sever amnesia and cognitive problems i got hospitalized for a
year -- after the hospital stay unfortunately -i was forced to
continue living with this guy in my step mothers household ---
amongst their family members this nephew as a result of his
attack on my life he had regained high statutes as a very
cool mighty ass kicker guy--- their relatives would belittle me and
tell me we got u this time for real did t we??they used to laugh at
me and at my father -- they used to call me their scared little shit
rat begging for my life which was true i did not care what was
expected of me i just did not wanna die -----this nephew on a daily
basis made me understand that he is not done with me but is
putting my murder only on hold and that i owe him my every breath
he demanded absolute obedient and ass kissing on my behalf
--the other time he heavy duty planed and plotted my murder is when i
was 19 year old how ever this time again i got lucky and i
survived his plan-- later i found out his plan had not gone through
due to some problems which had worked in my favor this is
years ago but now i always i feel no sense of identity what so
ever i feel this guy has swallowed my identity whole -- like
that movie scanner 2 brother fighting each other with their thoughts
and one of them over takes his twin brothers body while his own body
catches fire -- i feel this is exactly what has happened to me --
conquered and enslaved i am -- i deeply believe i am him not
me this is not a thought but a the kinda belief i cant shake off
Your story is pretty complicated and hard to read. I'd recommend seeing a social worker or your doctor, because they can ask questions and understand you better. They'll help you for sure.
There is a name for this condition and it applies to situations where people are held hostage in some way or kidnapped. I cant remember the name or word for it though. But the gist of it is that the victim begins to identify with the aggressors/perpetrators. It's either a kind of survival tactic, or a symptom of the kind of stress hostages undergo. Look into it. Certain medications may be helpful to cut loose that particular situation in your story and history, so you can get over it. Its also beneficial to figure out what things trigger that survival response in you. Talk to someone. Other people have this, too. You're not alone. You can begin, now that you're free of the situation, to cope with what you've been through. Good luck🙃