At 6:08, he begins into the Peter Principle. Who hasn't had a mgr that destroyed a part of a company? If you haven't, consider yourself lucky. I have, & it literally happens like Peterson says...destruction of people's careers first & if left unchecked by the directors, utter failure of the dept as the rest leave, to be replaced by less qualified yes men so the failing mgr can feel superior to his underlings.
@@protogionlastname6003 I'm low in this too and i like what is pointed out about setting a goal that you can work towards. Some notes i took regarding this: Conscientiousness * Set up valuable goals or motivations structure for yourself. * Do micro decisions to take you towards that goal. - If a goal is good health, does eating sugar make you healthy, if no, then don’t, if yes. Then do it. Other things can be, how do you learn on a topic? How to build a tool you want to use? - Doing nothing is easier, question is what to do towards your goal. - This improves positive emotions towards your goal * Make a schedule, don’t treat it as a prison! * Take the responsibility to handle your schedule or micro decisions towards your goal. * Who do you want to be? What do you want to do? * Easy to not specify what you want, because it sets you up for failure. And no one wants to fail. * Negotiate with yourself, no need to be a tyrant to yourself. Something is better than nothing. - But not doing anything is failing all the time. Willful blindness. My own rule of thumb summary: Do something in smalls steps towards your goal, try to schedule it if possible. Exclude or include with simpler logic towards your goal. Taking responsibility towards your goal, small or big is a reward in itself, but you can always have a carrot in the end in extra. Practice makes master.
@@protogionlastname6003 Jordan has said somewhere that if you're interested enough (specifically for high openness/creative people) you'd still succeed with low conscientiousness. Examples were comedians and rock stars/ probably just entertainers in general. Their careers and lifestyle aren't really suited for conscientious people because of the variety
Dr.Peterson, I recently went through a journey into the underworld and managed to slay the dragon and come out with the gold. I have newfound confidence in myself, reignited my passion towards my work, and sorted out my immediate and long term future goals. My room is cleaner than ever and I couldn't have done it without the framework you provided through your lectures online. Thank you for all your hard work
Here is a pretty detailed outline of this lecture: 0:00 Introduction 3:17 Ethical perspective on hiring. 6:00 Failure rate among managers is high. 7:32 Biases in interviews. 8:45 Binomial effect size display. 12:58 Walter Mischell 14:28 Measuring productivity is a problem. 17:51 Applying lab measures in a real world. 18:43 Probability of a company using a productivity test is inversely proportional to its accuracy. 19:10 Criticism of Myers-Briggs test. 19:40 Problems with the tests that work. Percentiles and percentages. 23:58 Introducing a product to a big company. 25:15 Typical duration in a position in a big company is 4 years. 26:00 Publishing a book. 26:40 Entrepreneurship. 29:37 When making decisions, people do not think about succeeding, they think about failing. Primary goal is to be invisible and left alone. 30:18 Zebra story. 34:56 People don't want happiness. They want not being hurt. 35:54 Price's law. 38:11 Variation in productivity is a function of the job complexity. 39:30 Economics of effective testing. 40:47 Galton board visualisation. Heroic normal distribution :) 42:40 Genetic vs societal differences. 44:17 Gender differences are largest in Scandinavia. 44:50 Pareto distribution. Simulation of a trading game. 47:00 Next lecture. Why productivity is not normaly distributed ? 48:30 Zero is a qualitatively different number. 50:24 Simulation again. 52:13 Is Pareto distribution a consequence of production being measured and social ? 53:39 Reinforcing feedback loop. 54:03 Example of the feedback: loosing a job. 55:34 Is problem inside or outside you ? 58:16 Social proof. People don't want to get in trouble for their decisions. 1:01:35 Income inequality. 1:02:50 Computers are intelligence and conscientiousness multipliers. 1:03:32 Silicon Valley. 1:04:48 Predictors of real life success. IQ. 1:05:54 Best cure against decreasing IQ - physical exercise, both aerobic and anaerobic. 1:06:47 Industriousness. Micro habits. Goals. 1:10:24 Where to look for worthwhile things ? 1:11:55 People don't want to specify conditions of failure. 1:12:57 Schedule. Make it so it's not a prison. Ratio of responsibility vs reward. 1:16:40 Worth of time. 1:18:07 Negotiation - don't walk away resentful and angry, walk away thrilled. 1:21:01 People who whine about being alive are dangerous to themselves and other people. 1:21:29 Social networking. 1:22:41 Who's a friend ? a) you can tell them bad news; b) you can tell them good news. 1:25:23 Skills. 1:25:44 Talking to someone who is supervising you. Don't be a problem to people who give you money. 1:26:42 Should you take an opportunity ? Take it if you can learn something that's applicable to other opportunities. 1:27:57 Wealth is something you have when all your money is taken away.
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29:00 gets interesting. Watch it again People want to be invisible and want to not fail 34:00 people don’t want to be happy. They want to not be unhappy (anxious or in pain) 53:30 depressive spiral triggered by being fired 59:00 i don’t want the best for the company I want to make a decision Thant don’t get me into trouble 1:04:00 what you can do to be successful 💙 1:07:30 sources of motivation according to personalities
The thing i really appreciate about this man as an educator is that he’s the only one I’ve ever seen to not just teach from a PowerPoint or whatever is going to be exactly on an exam. He engages the students, trying to teach them actual stuff that is going to be useful not just in the course but in their careers and in life.
"Develop your skills...because wealth constitutes what you have when they take all your money away." Wow! Stunningly profound. This is one of truest statements you will ever hear in your life. There are a billion places on the internet which will give you information, some of it true, but much of it false or useless. Listening to Jordan Peterson is one of the infinitesimally few places you can gain useful and executable knowledge and wisdom. And it costs you nothing more than your time and attention.
Because he tells the hard cold truth and stick to it. This is why more people love him than the haters. Postmodernists leftists and feminists hate him.
Hellion Shark That’s up to u. Who cares ..? Lol Anyway Peterson is a salvation. I’ll always thank him for opening our eyes on ur threat. And we are billions worldwide.
@@pickywolf2728 as long as he helps :) they really demonse him more than he deserves. You don't have to agree with everything a person says I think. It dosen't make them a bad person.
The last 40 minutes of this video are absolutely mind blowing! Even when I thought his lectures cannot get any better! Thank you Dr. Peterson for sharing your knowledge with us.
- People don't want to be happy, they want to be not in pain - People want to remain in the herd, outside becomes bait for predators - Price's Law - The square root of the number of people operating in a productive domain produces half the output (follows Pareto distribution) - Income is naturally a positive feedback loop (Matthew Principle) - Match the career you pursue to your temperament, rather than trying to adjust the latter. To be successful - IQ - aerobic and anaerobic - Conscientiousness (orderliness + industriousness) - Create goals that you actually want and a place you want to stay away from. Who are you trying to be? - Specify conditions for failure - Family, friends, educational, time outside work - Micro-processes - Schedule - negotiate with yourself (you are an employee and a boss) - Stop wasting time - Leaving a conversation resentful means you still had something to say - Surround yourself with people you want to be - maintain relationships - Learn skills - public speaking, coding - Every time you are offered an opportunity to learn take it
I've watched as much of his content as I've been able to and read his first book. His authenticity is undeniable. We're lucky to be alive in a time where a man with such impeccable articulation of life's most difficult scenarios and ALSO an antidote to self destruction is available for free. I appreciate you Dr. Peterson. From my heart, Thank You.
They very likely are, as the minimum value is zero and zero is where any comment starts, so it's very likely to stay there and get no bumpup, unless it's very relevant (mainly creative, attribute that is distributed in a Pareto fashion, AFAIU).
For my own reference- This is the best lecture in the whole playlist. 7:44 Binomial Effect size display 18:56 The Myer-Briggs personality test has no predictive utility with regards to performance prediction. 27:3527:49 "They're not gonna buy anything unless they are on fire & you're selling water." 35:52 Price's law (Pareto principle), Square root law. 36:09 IQ (intelligence) is normally distributed. Same for Conscientiousness. 36:19 But productivity & also creative output are distributed on the Pareto distribution. Most of the activity/production happens at the extremes of the normal dist curve. 47:54 36:40 ***** 38:11 ******* 52:1453:35 ******** 57:09 ****************** 58:39 Social proof is like the end all be all of sales. (Social proof is like outsourcing the analysis of a thing to the market itself)******** 1:02:49 Computational devices are an intelligence & conscientiousness multiplier (leverage) ********* 1:02:57 1:03:33 Effectiveness of a place like Silicon Valley. 1:04:59 All Predictors of Performance 1:07:18 The future authoring program does more of a situational analysis than a psychological analysis. 1:15:53 "It's like you're a bad employee and a worse boss". 1:22:26 Power through social capital. 1:26:09 Don't be a problem to people who wanna give you money. 1:26:33 How to evaluate an opportunity. 1:27:46 Skills/competence as better than wealth. 1:27:57 Real Wealth is what you have left when someone takes all your money away. ******** In an economy, consumption tends towards more distribution but production tends towards more concentration. By nature, consumption is distributed but production is concentrated. That is why the natural course of a nascent industry/market is ultimately a monopoly. (But that is also not good for society) Changed my mind cause of this lecture, that it's better to bet on your strengths than your weaknesses. (cause everything as has to align properly for you to end up in the better portion of the Pareto distribution. Weaknesses are redressable only to a certain extent & won't place you in the top 1%, hence one shouldn't bet on them) ********
I feel like you’ve been explaining the choice’s for joy (in a biblical way) , where were you when I needed you, to know thy self is a great start for the journey! Working on the understanding of myself is completely a very complex puzzle! Thank you for sharing your gift, you are a blessing for humanity!
This just gives such a sense of direction that simply isn't given anywhere else (that I know of). So valuable to watch the full lecture instead of little "Jordan Peterson Inspiration | This Will Change Your Life | Make A Damn Schedule | Jordan B. Peterson" type videos
One of the best videos yet. Providing a tremendous amount practical advice everyone can use (to an even greater degree than normal). Thanks Dr. Peterson
Listening to that last section made me whip out my notebook real fast. I started setting up a list of goals and I realized just how many different sections there have to be to encompass a balanced set of aims. So far I've got goals for my career, job, social life, hobbies, skills new and old, spiritual attainment, finance, and I'm just beginning. Truly not enough hours in the day to afford to waste any time. - from 1/1/2023
@@chendaniel8097 Career, I have gotten a new job in carpentry, considering starting a business residential framing. Still wish I could be a psychiatrist though. Hobbies, I have been getting back into music, though I'm still not as good as I once was. Spiritually, I have met my goal partially, by having read half the bible, and writing my dreams down for analysis. Socially I have less friends. I have been reading a good bit though. Jordans reading list is pretty good, also Carl Jung is a must. Financially I am worse of than ever before, but that's transitory. A new goal is emerging which is to stop drinking and nicotine habit, both undermine achievement of all other goals. Often fighting a feeling of hopelessness, futility, and loneliness . Considering the year is halfway, I will make a new list and reassess. I'll post it if you would like. How's your goals coming? What are they looking like? Thank you
@@peterburns4586you're not lonely with your ventures brother. i'll share my progress since i also started 1/1/2023: 7 months of consistent exercise for the first time in my life. never made it past 2 months. i'm so very happy with how my body looks, and how every shirt that used to be big now looks perfect on me. and i grew a millimeter of beard each month since january; up to 7mm now. good luck. you know you can forget that you even smoked if you quit it long enough. out of sight, out of mind; so keep it away for a while.
I am so thankful for this talks. Its like listening to someone similar to a wise grandfather that tells you the rules of the game of life and motivates you to move. I am actually sorted myself out and restarted my education thanks to this talks to get a better life. Thank you Jordan.
Anyone else notice "roughly speaking" slipping into their own everyday speech? Like, my wife will ask me to do something (like clean our room), and I'll say "in a minute... roughly speaking."
To all Jordan fans - Instead of doing the same lame jokes over and over and over again... ("Hey buckos", "I cleaned my room and slayed a dragon", "brb have to rescue dad from underworld") ...why don't you post notes from the lectures, share your experience (ACTUAL experiences) of executing on the things Jordan talks about, post questions of challenges you face when trying to use the thing he talks about in your life, or maybe just post some damn time stamps? The comment section here is 100x better than 99% of comment sections on RUclips, at least it used to be, but I guess now that his audience is growing at such a staggering pace it's inevitable that the majority of people watching are just simply going to be lazy. In any case, if you guys actually watch this because you are trying to make yourselves and the world better, then these ridiculous comments of trying to spin old jokes in new ways all the time are pretty damn useless. Do something useless with your time if you're going to make a fucking post. /End rant.
I think you have a very useful opinion and thank you for posting it. But yes, it’s difficult with so many people to keep the discussion productive and not let it slide into short entertaining bits. For be, finding Jordan’s work has been the boost I needed to try to perfect the way I make myself understood to myself and to others. To be more precise in my speech and to not lie, especially to myself ( which as Feynman says it’s the easiest). What can you share with us?
I do agree with you that the same ol' jokes are annoying, repetition gets old quick, but I just wanna enjoy some simple comments. If we wanted to do an analysis of our lives, we wouldnt be in a comment section lol. I would probably be talking face to face with people irl, or on an actual discussion board / website.
For those wondering about the heavy breathing, he could be suffering from an anxiety attack. He has said that he suffers from anxiety. I do too, as well as my sister, and we both start breathing like that when we get an anxiety attack sometimes. It's a fairly common symptom if you look it up. Also, constant death threats probably don't help.
Amazing. This is one of his best and most practical lectures I've seen to date. Everything he is preaching is completely true as I've applied them in my life and seen the results! Well done...
1:11:30 to about 1:20:00 is great tactical advice for actually meeting goals. I often fall into that trap of vacillating between self tyranny and total self indulgence. Gotta negotiate and figure out a set of behaviors that I could actually do and find rewarding and enjoyable while I do them.
there are few things in life that please me more than watching and/or listening to someone who is at the top of there game. i'm sure the good Dr could explain why that is so, why we enjoy the sight and sounds of success and brilliance.
Peterson said the first thing towards which I have a strong critique. He argued, essentially, that there isn't much you can do to provide someone with more information than if you provide them a computer. I would argue that giving someone teachers would radically alter their access to information because of specializations. It is well known the effect a good teacher can have, it accelerates and improves learning more than anything else. Someone who goes to a good university is NOT operating on the same informational landscape as someone scavenging the internet. That is my contribution.
I'd have to disagree with that quite a bit. Even when you go to a university or college with a very good reputation, it's damn rare to find a prof who cares enough or is good enough at teaching that it would actually help you in any meaningful way. There are TONS of good teachers on the internet, and I think at the end of the day the trick is to be able to accurately zero in on the information you need. That's the problem, even though everyone has access, a lot of people don't even know how to/or are too lazy to figure out a good pathway to finding the information they need. I went to 2 different post-secondary institutions, both very reputable, but the money and time wasted on all the useless shit vs. helpful information is unjustifiable.
I'm not saying all teachers are good, but I'm saying that a good one will do a heck of a job figuring that good pathway for you, giving you the information you need. Of course, its still leading a horse to water. I'm not saying a teacher will invariably revolutionize your rate of education, but I am saying its possible with some luck.
yeah I definitely agree with you there. My personal issue is that despite having had a couple of excellent teachers, I'm not sure the debt was worth it, taking into account the sheer amount of knowledge and skill I was able to gain before and after formal education without having to pay for it. I think it does largely depend on the specific type of education one is looking for though... My profession doesn't need a piece of paper to validate my skills, but I know it's different for most other fields.
Right. It's important to remember that your experience doesn't invalidate the entire system. Although, it may point to some worthy criticisms. I totally get where you're coming from.
I’m amazed at how much of his lectures I recognized from studying myself and others. I love how well he articulates his idea and would love to exchange ideas with him one day
I really enjoyed the sharing of frustration about how our economic society is organised. Managing a small sales and services company catering to the needs of large corporations brings huge frustration potential, requires nearly inhuman patience, but can be incredibly rewarding. Thank you for your insights, they are really helpful in constantly adjusting and powering through!
Hey Mr. Peterson. I don't agree with you on everything but I think you always give out great content. Very educational! especially when you talk about archetypes, movie allegory and philosophy/religion. I hope your Patreon haters don't make you stop making content. Keep on keeping on, bro.
The schedule thing can be seen as less constricted too if you don't plan everything to a T. I only schedule the times I exercise and my work schedule, which I put on a separate calendar to remind myself of how I work, but the rest I schedule how I see fit. So that varies on how badly I think I gotta do laundry or sweep my floor. For things like doing the dishes, that's a daily thing cuz when you live in a small space, you gotta make sure you keep the chaos at bay, because it grows very quickly.
Why is it the people who are already on the right track, or at least, trying to be, are listening to this priceless advice, while people who need it the most, and we all know someone like that, couldn't care less?
I think this and the previous video combine to make the best collective Peterson talks I've seen. And I've seen hundreds of hours believe me. I only wish I could have seen his closing remarks for the class. I felt it was a remarkable series with an anti-climatic fade out ending.
Oh dear ..... I am gonna have to watch this one several times....so much to absorb in each and every sentence: the work talk, the happiness talk, and.....zebras.
WOW!!!! Jordan Peterson's lectures are ALWAYS SO Fascinating, and full of interesting information, and concepts! I'm almost exhausted from trying to listen closely, and follow the flow of ideas! I feel like a Hockey Goalie! I don't dare take my mind off of the puck!.... Whew!!! .....
Thanks for putting that into perspective for me. I've always considered myself pretty bad at math, but now I realize that 73rd percentile isn't actually bad at all!
One phenomenon. Two phenomena. Just like one criterion, two criteria. Both derived from Greek second declension neuter nouns. I can't believe he's gotten this far without someone correcting him.
I don't like when JP says "the average amount of time employees stay in their positions is 4 years, so keep that in mind when picking a career". There's very little value in that statement, given the extremely diverse situational, geographic, demographic, pay scale and profession factors in which that statistic should actually play zero role in your decision. It's only when the statistic is isolated to a specific demographic would it be more applicable: "college graduates on average spend an average of 2 years at their first corporate job" for example. I feel like he does this a lot, like when he encourages people to pick a career path which aligns with their temperament, but not where they actually want to be in life. Like I don't identify with my temperament, because I feel weak when I'm in my temperament, so why would I submit to that biological substrate rather than work hard (harder than most people I suppose) to improve the side of the spectrum I need to improve?
Because you can't work against your biology. You will only wither and die if your desires don't align with your biological temperaments. He already explained that those with creative temperaments are unable to repress them. That means that you need to get sorted psychologically. Your question shouldn't be, how do I align my temperaments with my desires? It should be, how do I align my desires with my temperaments? Because only the later is possible.
6:10 I love it because it seems so obvious and it helps explain, in part, why managers are so disliked. Who likes relying on someone that regularly fails them? Throw in there the manager's natural desire for self-preservation and thus attempts to cover their failings.
WRONG!!!! I have a multidimensional validation structure comprised of not only upvotes, but also +1's, likes, retweets, shares so "What the Hell do you know anyways?! You're just a half crazed chimp who full of snakes! Well, that's one one way to think about, as far as I can tell... BUCKO!"
58:04 would have been the perfect time to loop in Heidegger's de-severance, closeness and proximity theories from "Being and Time." Wonderful set of lectures regardless.
Wow! His story about selling his performance tests gives real insight into his bleak-but undeniably reasonable-outlook on the risks of being a creative.
I have worked under 4 different supervisors and Peterson is absolutely correct in that bad supervisors can cause companies to fail. To me it's a lack of common sense and math.
Fantastic explanation when questioning social-norms and biology. I preferred this much more over the “that’s the way it is” or “just be yourself” answers that my parents gave me.
Because those advice give a very condensed, simple direction, but nothing else to support it. And while that can be useful occasionally, it's rather hit and miss.
47:07: IQ, Conciseness, Openness ALL normal dist. Creative output - Pareto dist 49:07: Big difference between 0 and 1. Especially in regards to economics.
I wish JP touched on matching your temperament to your career... was really hoping to elaborate on that concept. Anyone have any links to talks regarding this by him?
Nick Bultman I don't have the links, but he said that matching jobs to your extraversion is a good start. If you're creative, find a job you don't hate and create as a hobby, if you're too conscientious don't go into creative jobs per se and that you should always do things which open you the opportunity to do more things in the future (pick a job that's stimulating that won't consume you more than you are comfortable with).
Holy crap my friend, check out Jordan Peterson's RUclips channel. If you want a great introduction, watch his two appearances on the Joe Rogan Experience. Mind. Blown.
Firstly I want to say, I greatly appreciate you posting your lectures, love your books (12 rules and maps of meaning) and agree with - let's say 80%, in keeping with Pareto principles ;) - of what you say. I have considerable respect and this is mainly what motivates me to voice these opinions for consideration. But there are always one or two things. ;) My main problem here is that the ideas presented for recruitment are mainly useful at the micro (organisation) level because the resources are clearly limited. So some companies - might theoretically - recruit the best people. But then what of the others? Do we have a handful of successful monopolies and then let the rest go to the wall? Society currently functions by having everyone in work (or as many people as possible). Presumably things are going to get really bad at the bottom if all the 'best' people are working for all the 'best' companies (assuming it is individualistically determined and not - as I suspect - as much to do with structures and motivated roles within structures)? Organisational culture is surely a key player in this. Surely football teams - changes of manager - new structures and new levels of motivation and confidence demonstrate this kind of thing. Meanwhile many of the solutions you offer would bash confidence and likely achieve the opposite to your intention - or alternatively create a structure of such conscientious people that you lose all balance - and end up with the kind of hierarchy you talk of politically - where it becomes tyrannical due to lack of openness. Unless you aim to artificially address this too, but before long you're facing all the complexities of social group performance which may not correlate with individual performance - and indeed, there are a number of football teams that demonstrate this point too (the Dutch national team was filled with super stars at one point but they didn't play for each other at all - not even a little bit. Meanwhile there are some national teams that don't have many superstars but play a very solid game achieving results way above expectations that might be expected based on individual player skills and abilities alone). I also think there's a misunderstanding here about the use of Myers Briggs. This is often used in team building activities - not to hire and fire people based on their skills and merits which would be disastrous for moral and organisational trust. Instead, it's used to help people understand themselves and their colleagues and it's pretty good for that. It can help people understand their motivations, their strengths and their weaknesses. Certainly I've never seen better accounts of personalities than via Myers Briggs. Regarding Price's Law, interestingly, if 100 of 10,000 do 50% of the work, from a choice of 9,900 it seems reasonable you could build an organisation of 100 good people where 10 would do half the work. So the key determinant to output would appear to be structure and organisational culture rather than any inherent personality traits or IQ per se. I think you were on the right line with zebra's. Sometimes it seems to me you look at the individual then try to interpret the 'whole' through the individual and I just don't think that works out too well. With zebra's you understood, it is by fitting into the group that the zebra survives and in this way it's more the 'whole' that gives the individual meaning. It can not be looked at as an individual zebra - individually it doesn't work. I suspect the fact you seek to monetise this introduces its own bias (and I don't think you do this cynically - because I think you're a legitimate well intentioned person for what it's worth). But as you know from your own work on maps of meaning, 'meaning' and interests shape where and how we pay attention to things.
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"Match the career you pursue to your temperament, rather than trying to adjust the latter."
JBP, best life coach out there
At 6:08, he begins into the Peter Principle. Who hasn't had a mgr that destroyed a part of a company?
If you haven't, consider yourself lucky. I have, & it literally happens like Peterson says...destruction of people's careers first & if left unchecked by the directors, utter failure of the dept as the rest leave, to be replaced by less qualified yes men so the failing mgr can feel superior to his underlings.
But what if you have low conscientiousness? You are kinda out of options then.
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I'm low in this too and i like what is pointed out about setting a goal that you can work towards. Some notes i took regarding this:
Conscientiousness
* Set up valuable goals or motivations structure for yourself.
* Do micro decisions to take you towards that goal.
- If a goal is good health, does eating sugar make you healthy, if no, then don’t, if yes. Then do it.
Other things can be, how do you learn on a topic? How to build a tool you want to use?
- Doing nothing is easier, question is what to do towards your goal.
- This improves positive emotions towards your goal
* Make a schedule, don’t treat it as a prison!
* Take the responsibility to handle your schedule or micro decisions towards your goal.
* Who do you want to be? What do you want to do?
* Easy to not specify what you want, because it sets you up for failure. And no one wants to fail.
* Negotiate with yourself, no need to be a tyrant to yourself. Something is better than nothing.
- But not doing anything is failing all the time. Willful blindness.
My own rule of thumb summary: Do something in smalls steps towards your goal, try to schedule it if possible. Exclude or include with simpler logic towards your goal. Taking responsibility towards your goal, small or big is a reward in itself, but you can always have a carrot in the end in extra. Practice makes master.
@@StianGrindvoll Thank you for thorough reply.
The hardest thing seems to be setting that goal.
Like who I want to be? Well hell if I know, right?
@@protogionlastname6003 Jordan has said somewhere that if you're interested enough (specifically for high openness/creative people) you'd still succeed with low conscientiousness. Examples were comedians and rock stars/ probably just entertainers in general. Their careers and lifestyle aren't really suited for conscientious people because of the variety
Dr.Peterson, I recently went through a journey into the underworld and managed to slay the dragon and come out with the gold. I have newfound confidence in myself, reignited my passion towards my work, and sorted out my immediate and long term future goals. My room is cleaner than ever and I couldn't have done it without the framework you provided through your lectures online. Thank you for all your hard work
Which lecture was the most helpful to you ?
Greetings, brotha!
Wow, sounds like you sorted the fuck out of yourself.
"eksdee "- what it is ?
Same thing. OMW to what you described, man.
Here is a pretty detailed outline of this lecture:
0:00 Introduction
3:17 Ethical perspective on hiring.
6:00 Failure rate among managers is high.
7:32 Biases in interviews.
8:45 Binomial effect size display.
12:58 Walter Mischell
14:28 Measuring productivity is a problem.
17:51 Applying lab measures in a real world.
18:43 Probability of a company using a productivity test is inversely
proportional to its accuracy.
19:10 Criticism of Myers-Briggs test.
19:40 Problems with the tests that work. Percentiles and percentages.
23:58 Introducing a product to a big company.
25:15 Typical duration in a position in a big company is 4 years.
26:00 Publishing a book.
26:40 Entrepreneurship.
29:37 When making decisions, people do not think about succeeding,
they think about failing. Primary goal is to be invisible and left alone.
30:18 Zebra story.
34:56 People don't want happiness. They want not being hurt.
35:54 Price's law.
38:11 Variation in productivity is a function of the job complexity.
39:30 Economics of effective testing.
40:47 Galton board visualisation. Heroic normal distribution :)
42:40 Genetic vs societal differences.
44:17 Gender differences are largest in Scandinavia.
44:50 Pareto distribution. Simulation of a trading game.
47:00 Next lecture. Why productivity is not normaly distributed ?
48:30 Zero is a qualitatively different number.
50:24 Simulation again.
52:13 Is Pareto distribution a consequence of production being measured and social ?
53:39 Reinforcing feedback loop.
54:03 Example of the feedback: loosing a job.
55:34 Is problem inside or outside you ?
58:16 Social proof. People don't want to get in trouble for their decisions.
1:01:35 Income inequality.
1:02:50 Computers are intelligence and conscientiousness multipliers.
1:03:32 Silicon Valley.
1:04:48 Predictors of real life success. IQ.
1:05:54 Best cure against decreasing IQ - physical exercise, both aerobic and anaerobic.
1:06:47 Industriousness. Micro habits. Goals.
1:10:24 Where to look for worthwhile things ?
1:11:55 People don't want to specify conditions of failure.
1:12:57 Schedule. Make it so it's not a prison. Ratio of responsibility vs reward.
1:16:40 Worth of time.
1:18:07 Negotiation - don't walk away resentful and angry, walk away thrilled.
1:21:01 People who whine about being alive are dangerous to themselves and other people.
1:21:29 Social networking.
1:22:41 Who's a friend ?
a) you can tell them bad news;
b) you can tell them good news.
1:25:23 Skills.
1:25:44 Talking to someone who is supervising you.
Don't be a problem to people who give you money.
1:26:42 Should you take an opportunity ?
Take it if you can learn something that's applicable to other opportunities.
1:27:57 Wealth is something you have when all your money is taken away.
Thank you!
Thanks you
Awesome! Thank you - I assume that took a lot of time so really, thank you :)
More likes are needed here, it's the gist
Great work man
This is one of my favorite lectures. Having you online is like having a decent parent after having tried to grow up without any. Thank you!!
Amen!
My heart smiles whenever I see a new video from Dr. Peterson. RUclips time well spent!
Sharnee Martin my eyes have hearts looking at your picture.....but I’m not going to let you see them 🤦🏻♂️
Tesla referenced human energy 🌬👻jesus christ referenced living waters 💎👩🎓👨🎓science described water memory 🌊🎭psalms16:24 k,j proverbs27:19 existence psychologically god bless fight the good fight 💖👻💎👩🎓👨🎓🗽🤍⚖🌪🌬
I’m convinced this is the single most valuable video on RUclips
29:00 gets interesting. Watch it again
People want to be invisible and want to not fail
34:00 people don’t want to be happy. They want to not be unhappy (anxious or in pain)
53:30 depressive spiral triggered by being fired
59:00 i don’t want the best for the company I want to make a decision Thant don’t get me into trouble
1:04:00 what you can do to be successful 💙
1:07:30 sources of motivation according to personalities
Thank you. It's very helpful.
The last 30-40 minutes of this lecture is ear candy every time
Thx
This lesson was definitely worth 75 bucks of my time.
I'm just watching it for free on RUclips
@@ddsjgvk i can send you a bill. Its no problem.
Well if you can afford it you could Burn 75 dollars to equally distribute that purchasing power to everyone else or you could PayPal me.
I would definitely paid my employees to watch this... 😄
A solid $74.68 😂👌🏽
The thing i really appreciate about this man as an educator is that he’s the only one I’ve ever seen to not just teach from a PowerPoint or whatever is going to be exactly on an exam. He engages the students, trying to teach them actual stuff that is going to be useful not just in the course but in their careers and in life.
"Develop your skills...because wealth constitutes what you have when they take all your money away." Wow! Stunningly profound. This is one of truest statements you will ever hear in your life. There are a billion places on the internet which will give you information, some of it true, but much of it false or useless. Listening to Jordan Peterson is one of the infinitesimally few places you can gain useful and executable knowledge and wisdom. And it costs you nothing more than your time and attention.
Every time I watch this guy it makes me feel good and motivated. How is he getting hatred from people?
Because facts don't care about feeling.
Because he tells the hard cold truth and stick to it. This is why more people love him than the haters. Postmodernists leftists and feminists hate him.
@@pickywolf2728 I am both a leftist and a feminist :D
Hellion Shark That’s up to u. Who cares ..? Lol Anyway Peterson is a salvation. I’ll always thank him for opening our eyes on ur threat. And we are billions worldwide.
@@pickywolf2728 as long as he helps :) they really demonse him more than he deserves. You don't have to agree with everything a person says I think. It dosen't make them a bad person.
The last 40 minutes of this video are absolutely mind blowing! Even when I thought his lectures cannot get any better! Thank you Dr. Peterson for sharing your knowledge with us.
- People don't want to be happy, they want to be not in pain
- People want to remain in the herd, outside becomes bait for predators
- Price's Law - The square root of the number of people operating in a productive domain produces half the output (follows Pareto distribution)
- Income is naturally a positive feedback loop (Matthew Principle)
- Match the career you pursue to your temperament, rather than trying to adjust the latter.
To be successful
- IQ - aerobic and anaerobic
- Conscientiousness (orderliness + industriousness)
- Create goals that you actually want and a place you want to stay away from. Who are you trying to be?
- Specify conditions for failure
- Family, friends, educational, time outside work
- Micro-processes - Schedule - negotiate with yourself (you are an employee and a boss)
- Stop wasting time
- Leaving a conversation resentful means you still had something to say
- Surround yourself with people you want to be - maintain relationships
- Learn skills - public speaking, coding
- Every time you are offered an opportunity to learn take it
Jordan sounds like he just finished cleaning his room
What a comment. Give this dude a medal!
He sounds like he just cleaned a line of cocaine with his nose
😂
And he did it fast and efficient!
A pipe of crack came to mind
This comment section never disappoints 😂😂
Just when I think my weekend can't get any better... Cheers Doc!
Jordan can you please tell me the song at the start? It's Euphoric.
Mozart Manuetto Allegretto
More specifically, the Minuetto Allegretto movement from Symphony 41 K 551
The only man I can think of who is (or should be) the greatest inspiration for himself. I hope you reflect on your own beautiful thoughts sir
1:26:20 - "Don't be a problem for the people who want to give you money".
That's how I functioned throughout my nursing career
I've watched as much of his content as I've been able to and read his first book. His authenticity is undeniable.
We're lucky to be alive in a time where a man with such impeccable articulation of life's most difficult scenarios and ALSO an antidote to self destruction is available for free.
I appreciate you Dr. Peterson.
From my heart, Thank You.
I think likes on RUclips comments might be pareto-distributed.
Jack Colvin there you go, moved you from 0 to 1 :)
Intelligent RUclips comments most certainly are. But I think the really stupid comments are widely distributed.
They very likely are, as the minimum value is zero and zero is where any comment starts, so it's very likely to stay there and get no bumpup, unless it's very relevant (mainly creative, attribute that is distributed in a Pareto fashion, AFAIU).
Once you know about it you start seeing it everywhere. Why this isn't taught in every highschool in the country is beyond me.
Let's test this hypotesis! Here's a like and a comment!
For my own reference-
This is the best lecture in the whole playlist.
7:44 Binomial Effect size display
18:56 The Myer-Briggs personality test has no predictive utility with regards to performance prediction.
27:35 27:49 "They're not gonna buy anything unless they are on fire & you're selling water."
35:52 Price's law (Pareto principle), Square root law.
36:09 IQ (intelligence) is normally distributed. Same for Conscientiousness. 36:19 But productivity & also creative output are distributed on the Pareto distribution. Most of the activity/production happens at the extremes of the normal dist curve. 47:54
36:40 *****
38:11 *******
52:14 53:35 ********
57:09 ******************
58:39 Social proof is like the end all be all of sales. (Social proof is like outsourcing the analysis of a thing to the market itself)********
1:02:49 Computational devices are an intelligence & conscientiousness multiplier (leverage) ********* 1:02:57 1:03:33 Effectiveness of a place like Silicon Valley.
1:04:59 All Predictors of Performance
1:07:18 The future authoring program does more of a situational analysis than a psychological analysis.
1:15:53 "It's like you're a bad employee and a worse boss".
1:22:26 Power through social capital.
1:26:09 Don't be a problem to people who wanna give you money.
1:26:33 How to evaluate an opportunity.
1:27:46 Skills/competence as better than wealth. 1:27:57 Real Wealth is what you have left when someone takes all your money away. ********
In an economy, consumption tends towards more distribution but production tends towards more concentration. By nature, consumption is distributed but production is concentrated. That is why the natural course of a nascent industry/market is ultimately a monopoly. (But that is also not good for society)
Changed my mind cause of this lecture, that it's better to bet on your strengths than your weaknesses. (cause everything as has to align properly for you to end up in the better portion of the Pareto distribution. Weaknesses are redressable only to a certain extent & won't place you in the top 1%, hence one shouldn't bet on them) ********
I've found I've picked up these strange hand gestures when talking to people. Lol! What a genuine treasure Dr. Peterson is.
I feel like you’ve been explaining the choice’s for joy (in a biblical way) , where were you when I needed you, to know thy self is a great start for the journey! Working on the understanding of myself is completely a very complex puzzle! Thank you for sharing your gift, you are a blessing for humanity!
This lecture series is absolutely addictive...
Guess the elevator was out again before he got to class.
This just gives such a sense of direction that simply isn't given anywhere else (that I know of). So valuable to watch the full lecture instead of little "Jordan Peterson Inspiration | This Will Change Your Life | Make A Damn Schedule | Jordan B. Peterson" type videos
This man that has my undivided attention. I respect him
I scroll my recommended feed and I think RUclips has gone down the drain. Then I watch Jordans lectures, and now I’m grateful RUclips is still around
One of the best videos yet. Providing a tremendous amount practical advice everyone can use (to an even greater degree than normal).
Thanks Dr. Peterson
This is definitely in the top 5 for his best lectures.
Listening to that last section made me whip out my notebook real fast. I started setting up a list of goals and I realized just how many different sections there have to be to encompass a balanced set of aims. So far I've got goals for my career, job, social life, hobbies, skills new and old, spiritual attainment, finance, and I'm just beginning. Truly not enough hours in the day to afford to waste any time.
- from 1/1/2023
Update? :)
How are you doing now?
@@chendaniel8097
Career, I have gotten a new job in carpentry, considering starting a business residential framing. Still wish I could be a psychiatrist though.
Hobbies, I have been getting back into music, though I'm still not as good as I once was.
Spiritually, I have met my goal partially, by having read half the bible, and writing my dreams down for analysis.
Socially I have less friends.
I have been reading a good bit though. Jordans reading list is pretty good, also Carl Jung is a must.
Financially I am worse of than ever before, but that's transitory.
A new goal is emerging which is to stop drinking and nicotine habit, both undermine achievement of all other goals. Often fighting a feeling of hopelessness, futility, and loneliness .
Considering the year is halfway, I will make a new list and reassess. I'll post it if you would like.
How's your goals coming? What are they looking like?
Thank you
@@peterburns4586you're not lonely with your ventures brother.
i'll share my progress since i also started 1/1/2023: 7 months of consistent exercise for the first time in my life. never made it past 2 months. i'm so very happy with how my body looks, and how every shirt that used to be big now looks perfect on me.
and i grew a millimeter of beard each month since january; up to 7mm now.
good luck. you know you can forget that you even smoked if you quit it long enough. out of sight, out of mind; so keep it away for a while.
You hit the nail when you said, 'People want to be invisible and left alone.'
I am so thankful for this talks. Its like listening to someone similar to a wise grandfather that tells you the rules of the game of life and motivates you to move. I am actually sorted myself out and restarted my education thanks to this talks to get a better life. Thank you Jordan.
This one is not only a psychological course, it's of tremendous value in the area of entrepreneurship.
100% … helps with hiring/ recruiting
Engineer: "Here's the problem and here is the solution"
Google: "Get the fuck out of here"
Did he just finish a marathon?
jared sandoy or drugs, the sordid kind
Breathing triggered me. I kept thinking he's gonna have a heart attack or something.
Stairs will do that.
He just gave something the sorting out of its life.
He fought in MMA match.
That is one of the best and most life-changing lectures I have ever heard.
Anyone else notice "roughly speaking" slipping into their own everyday speech? Like, my wife will ask me to do something (like clean our room), and I'll say "in a minute... roughly speaking."
You might say that....
roughly speaking
eriksven "As far as I can tell" is certainly creeping into mine.
"In my estimation" is another one I like.
on point comment
"That's your answer to everything!" - Not true at all, generally speaking.
Just finished cleaning my room, now to watch Peterson videos!
I can no longer tell whether people are joking about this. But me too!
Bowden
Did you watch the live stream?
"messy bed = messy head."
Bag licker lol
To all Jordan fans - Instead of doing the same lame jokes over and over and over again...
("Hey buckos", "I cleaned my room and slayed a dragon", "brb have to rescue dad from underworld")
...why don't you post notes from the lectures, share your experience (ACTUAL experiences) of executing on the things Jordan talks about, post questions of challenges you face when trying to use the thing he talks about in your life, or maybe just post some damn time stamps?
The comment section here is 100x better than 99% of comment sections on RUclips, at least it used to be, but I guess now that his audience is growing at such a staggering pace it's inevitable that the majority of people watching are just simply going to be lazy.
In any case, if you guys actually watch this because you are trying to make yourselves and the world better, then these ridiculous comments of trying to spin old jokes in new ways all the time are pretty damn useless.
Do something useless with your time if you're going to make a fucking post.
/End rant.
"What ever turns your crank, bucko!"
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I think you have a very useful opinion and thank you for posting it. But yes, it’s difficult with so many people to keep the discussion productive and not let it slide into short entertaining bits.
For be, finding Jordan’s work has been the boost I needed to try to perfect the way I make myself understood to myself and to others. To be more precise in my speech and to not lie, especially to myself ( which as Feynman says it’s the easiest).
What can you share with us?
I do agree with you that the same ol' jokes are annoying, repetition gets old quick, but I just wanna enjoy some simple comments. If we wanted to do an analysis of our lives, we wouldnt be in a comment section lol. I would probably be talking face to face with people irl, or on an actual discussion board / website.
You sound like you need to clean your damn room, roughly speaking.
😂😂😂 your a comedian it seems
That one girl is ALWAYS late. Needs a good sorting
Last minute roomcleaning before the lectures.
carlotapuig Grazie
Which?
The campus is huge. You don't know how far away her previous class is located.
or maybe she's busy kicking handicaped kids between classes
Out of breath from sorting everything.
For those wondering about the heavy breathing, he could be suffering from an anxiety attack. He has said that he suffers from anxiety. I do too, as well as my sister, and we both start breathing like that when we get an anxiety attack sometimes. It's a fairly common symptom if you look it up. Also, constant death threats probably don't help.
Amazing. This is one of his best and most practical lectures I've seen to date. Everything he is preaching is completely true as I've applied them in my life and seen the results! Well done...
It is really surprising how enjoyable a lecture can be.
One of my favorite talks of his. Rare form here. Thank you JBP - you're a life saver.
This man is a bloody genius
1:11:30 to about 1:20:00 is great tactical advice for actually meeting goals. I often fall into that trap of vacillating between self tyranny and total self indulgence. Gotta negotiate and figure out a set of behaviors that I could actually do and find rewarding and enjoyable while I do them.
Dr. Peterson, can u tell the story of what you experienced right before this lecture? I mean you're breathless.
He's gone from slaying ¨dragons¨to slaying dragons for real. Dragonslayer Peterson npc in Dark Souls inc.
He just climbed all the dominance hierarchies
Jesse White Slaying Dragons
Dragonslaying...knighthood's highest calling
+Kalinmir A truer lecture has never been had. Now go, slay your dragon. Save your princess. Clean your room.
there are few things in life that please me more than watching and/or listening to someone who is at the top of there game. i'm sure the good Dr could explain why that is so, why we enjoy the sight and sounds of success and brilliance.
Peterson said the first thing towards which I have a strong critique. He argued, essentially, that there isn't much you can do to provide someone with more information than if you provide them a computer. I would argue that giving someone teachers would radically alter their access to information because of specializations. It is well known the effect a good teacher can have, it accelerates and improves learning more than anything else. Someone who goes to a good university is NOT operating on the same informational landscape as someone scavenging the internet.
That is my contribution.
I'd have to disagree with that quite a bit. Even when you go to a university or college with a very good reputation, it's damn rare to find a prof who cares enough or is good enough at teaching that it would actually help you in any meaningful way. There are TONS of good teachers on the internet, and I think at the end of the day the trick is to be able to accurately zero in on the information you need. That's the problem, even though everyone has access, a lot of people don't even know how to/or are too lazy to figure out a good pathway to finding the information they need.
I went to 2 different post-secondary institutions, both very reputable, but the money and time wasted on all the useless shit vs. helpful information is unjustifiable.
I'm not saying all teachers are good, but I'm saying that a good one will do a heck of a job figuring that good pathway for you, giving you the information you need. Of course, its still leading a horse to water. I'm not saying a teacher will invariably revolutionize your rate of education, but I am saying its possible with some luck.
yeah I definitely agree with you there. My personal issue is that despite having had a couple of excellent teachers, I'm not sure the debt was worth it, taking into account the sheer amount of knowledge and skill I was able to gain before and after formal education without having to pay for it. I think it does largely depend on the specific type of education one is looking for though... My profession doesn't need a piece of paper to validate my skills, but I know it's different for most other fields.
Right. It's important to remember that your experience doesn't invalidate the entire system. Although, it may point to some worthy criticisms. I totally get where you're coming from.
You got proves or is just an opinion?
To those who have everything more will be given and to those who have nothing everything will be taken!! phenomenal visualization.
What a deep and insightful lecture. Thank you prof. Peterson!!!
I’m amazed at how much of his lectures I recognized from studying myself and others. I love how well he articulates his idea and would love to exchange ideas with him one day
Jordan B Peterson is truly one dominant lobster 🦞
Edit: Roughly speaking!
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🦞 🦞 🦞🦞🦞🦞🦞
I really enjoyed the sharing of frustration about how our economic society is organised.
Managing a small sales and services company catering to the needs of large corporations brings huge frustration potential, requires nearly inhuman patience, but can be incredibly rewarding.
Thank you for your insights, they are really helpful in constantly adjusting and powering through!
This is one of the best lecture and advise, just wow! I wish I was in university days applying this knowledge
1:11:50 THESE COUPLE OF MINUTES ARE PURE GOLD & SPEAK DIRECTLY TO MY SOUL
Hey Mr. Peterson. I don't agree with you on everything but I think you always give out great content. Very educational! especially when you talk about archetypes, movie allegory and philosophy/religion. I hope your Patreon haters don't make you stop making content. Keep on keeping on, bro.
I got emotional at the end. Thank you Dr. Peterson
The schedule thing can be seen as less constricted too if you don't plan everything to a T. I only schedule the times I exercise and my work schedule, which I put on a separate calendar to remind myself of how I work, but the rest I schedule how I see fit. So that varies on how badly I think I gotta do laundry or sweep my floor. For things like doing the dishes, that's a daily thing cuz when you live in a small space, you gotta make sure you keep the chaos at bay, because it grows very quickly.
Why is it the people who are already on the right track, or at least, trying to be, are listening to this priceless advice, while people who need it the most, and we all know someone like that, couldn't care less?
What an enlightening and motivational video! Motivational speakers are put to shame
I think this and the previous video combine to make the best collective Peterson talks I've seen. And I've seen hundreds of hours believe me. I only wish I could have seen his closing remarks for the class. I felt it was a remarkable series with an anti-climatic fade out ending.
Wait a tick! There's one more video. Hopefully there's closure... I mean, it's Peterson. What, he's not going to think about closure...?
I plan to study economics and I found this video particularly interesting.
Read Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell. Excellent book
Oh dear ..... I am gonna have to watch this one several times....so much to absorb in each and every sentence: the work talk, the happiness talk, and.....zebras.
I adore this man...
Just want to take the 1000th comment to say thank you to Dr. Peterson for creating excellent content.
This lecture seems absolutely captivating compared to his other ones.
These lectures are incredible, man. Thank you so much for letting us sit in this classroom with everybody.
when you know better than the students in the room that he TOTALLY has told the zebra story before. #fanboy.
This man is the literal embodiment of the good father
WOW!!!! Jordan Peterson's lectures are ALWAYS SO Fascinating, and full of interesting information, and concepts! I'm almost exhausted from trying to listen closely, and follow the flow of ideas! I feel like a Hockey Goalie! I don't dare take my mind off of the puck!.... Whew!!! .....
Thanks for putting that into perspective for me. I've always considered myself pretty bad at math, but now I realize that 73rd percentile isn't actually bad at all!
One phenomenon. Two phenomena. Just like one criterion, two criteria. Both derived from Greek second declension neuter nouns. I can't believe he's gotten this far without someone correcting him.
30:05 People's fundamental motivation. Wow. Just wow. Wisdom here folks.
Gosh what a brilliant lecture! I'm always fascinated when I learn things from Peterson!
This is one of the best in the class I feel.
this guy drops so many gold nuggets it's ridiculous
I don't like when JP says "the average amount of time employees stay in their positions is 4 years, so keep that in mind when picking a career". There's very little value in that statement, given the extremely diverse situational, geographic, demographic, pay scale and profession factors in which that statistic should actually play zero role in your decision. It's only when the statistic is isolated to a specific demographic would it be more applicable: "college graduates on average spend an average of 2 years at their first corporate job" for example.
I feel like he does this a lot, like when he encourages people to pick a career path which aligns with their temperament, but not where they actually want to be in life. Like I don't identify with my temperament, because I feel weak when I'm in my temperament, so why would I submit to that biological substrate rather than work hard (harder than most people I suppose) to improve the side of the spectrum I need to improve?
Because you can't work against your biology. You will only wither and die if your desires don't align with your biological temperaments. He already explained that those with creative temperaments are unable to repress them. That means that you need to get sorted psychologically. Your question shouldn't be, how do I align my temperaments with my desires? It should be, how do I align my desires with my temperaments? Because only the later is possible.
Essa Husseini I'm triggered
The truth is a bitter pill to swallow, but it's also the only pill that alleviates suffering; personal and otherwise.
I really needed to hear the part about true friendships, it hit hard, but it was insanely useful to hear Dr.Peterson.
Jordan seems a little out of breath. Yet another interesting lecture. I'm addicted :)
6:10 I love it because it seems so obvious and it helps explain, in part, why managers are so disliked. Who likes relying on someone that regularly fails them? Throw in there the manager's natural desire for self-preservation and thus attempts to cover their failings.
*Insert out of context JBP quote because upvotes are my only source of validation*
WRONG!!!! I have a multidimensional validation structure comprised of not only upvotes, but also +1's, likes, retweets, shares so "What the Hell do you know anyways?! You're just a half crazed chimp who full of snakes! Well, that's one one way to think about, as far as I can tell... BUCKO!"
The Shitposting Spaghetti Monster are JBP quotes replacing original comments?
Roughly speaking.
*insert analytical and self aware meta comment so I can be validated yet maintain my ironic distance*
I'm playing the meta-game, roughly speaking.
58:04 would have been the perfect time to loop in Heidegger's de-severance, closeness and proximity theories from "Being and Time." Wonderful set of lectures regardless.
Wow! His story about selling his performance tests gives real insight into his bleak-but undeniably reasonable-outlook on the risks of being a creative.
I have worked under 4 different supervisors and Peterson is absolutely correct in that bad supervisors can cause companies to fail. To me it's a lack of common sense and math.
Probably the best video on RUclips
I don't think I've seen a better one.
This may be my favorite JBP video. Outstanding.
Fantastic explanation when questioning social-norms and biology. I preferred this much more over the “that’s the way it is” or “just be yourself” answers that my parents gave me.
Because those advice give a very condensed, simple direction, but nothing else to support it. And while that can be useful occasionally, it's rather hit and miss.
everything this guy says blows my mind
47:07: IQ, Conciseness, Openness ALL normal dist. Creative output - Pareto dist
49:07: Big difference between 0 and 1. Especially in regards to economics.
I wish JP touched on matching your temperament to your career... was really hoping to elaborate on that concept. Anyone have any links to talks regarding this by him?
Nick Bultman I don't have the links, but he said that matching jobs to your extraversion is a good start. If you're creative, find a job you don't hate and create as a hobby, if you're too conscientious don't go into creative jobs per se and that you should always do things which open you the opportunity to do more things in the future (pick a job that's stimulating that won't consume you more than you are comfortable with).
I was waiting for this year's lecture on the topic! Thank you Dr. Peterson
Are ther more youtube chanels like this one?
With quality, educational and/or thought provoking original content?
Mirko Tomovic
Retko
U Torontu sam ba sam imao cast the gledam Petersona uzivo.
Ekstremno mudar covjek.
Mirko Tomovic no
If you like scifi check out isaac arthur.
Holy crap my friend, check out Jordan Peterson's RUclips channel. If you want a great introduction, watch his two appearances on the Joe Rogan Experience. Mind. Blown.
Mirko Tomovic No
Outstanding. Best in the b+t series yet, thank you
chased by dragons all the way across campus, and all they managed was too unsort his collar
50 min mark till the end of the video - It's extraordinary!
This is the advice I've been looking for.
Firstly I want to say, I greatly appreciate you posting your lectures, love your books (12 rules and maps of meaning) and agree with - let's say 80%, in keeping with Pareto principles ;) - of what you say. I have considerable respect and this is mainly what motivates me to voice these opinions for consideration.
But there are always one or two things. ;)
My main problem here is that the ideas presented for recruitment are mainly useful at the micro (organisation) level because the resources are clearly limited. So some companies - might theoretically - recruit the best people. But then what of the others? Do we have a handful of successful monopolies and then let the rest go to the wall? Society currently functions by having everyone in work (or as many people as possible). Presumably things are going to get really bad at the bottom if all the 'best' people are working for all the 'best' companies (assuming it is individualistically determined and not - as I suspect - as much to do with structures and motivated roles within structures)? Organisational culture is surely a key player in this. Surely football teams - changes of manager - new structures and new levels of motivation and confidence demonstrate this kind of thing. Meanwhile many of the solutions you offer would bash confidence and likely achieve the opposite to your intention - or alternatively create a structure of such conscientious people that you lose all balance - and end up with the kind of hierarchy you talk of politically - where it becomes tyrannical due to lack of openness. Unless you aim to artificially address this too, but before long you're facing all the complexities of social group performance which may not correlate with individual performance - and indeed, there are a number of football teams that demonstrate this point too (the Dutch national team was filled with super stars at one point but they didn't play for each other at all - not even a little bit. Meanwhile there are some national teams that don't have many superstars but play a very solid game achieving results way above expectations that might be expected based on individual player skills and abilities alone).
I also think there's a misunderstanding here about the use of Myers Briggs. This is often used in team building activities - not to hire and fire people based on their skills and merits which would be disastrous for moral and organisational trust. Instead, it's used to help people understand themselves and their colleagues and it's pretty good for that. It can help people understand their motivations, their strengths and their weaknesses. Certainly I've never seen better accounts of personalities than via Myers Briggs.
Regarding Price's Law, interestingly, if 100 of 10,000 do 50% of the work, from a choice of 9,900 it seems reasonable you could build an organisation of 100 good people where 10 would do half the work. So the key determinant to output would appear to be structure and organisational culture rather than any inherent personality traits or IQ per se.
I think you were on the right line with zebra's. Sometimes it seems to me you look at the individual then try to interpret the 'whole' through the individual and I just don't think that works out too well. With zebra's you understood, it is by fitting into the group that the zebra survives and in this way it's more the 'whole' that gives the individual meaning. It can not be looked at as an individual zebra - individually it doesn't work.
I suspect the fact you seek to monetise this introduces its own bias (and I don't think you do this cynically - because I think you're a legitimate well intentioned person for what it's worth). But as you know from your own work on maps of meaning, 'meaning' and interests shape where and how we pay attention to things.
Man, the Zebra stripes and happiness is amazing
Listen once, take notes and criticize on second watch through, incorporate the third time through. Good stuff.