STUCK IN THE MUD? Tracks over Tires on Skid Steer Which design is best?
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- STUCK IN THE MUD? Tracks over Tires on Skid Steer Which design is best? Come along as we install the Grouser track and the Tracks Plus track on 2 wheeled loaders. You'll see which is the one you might consider for your machine! Links/Coupons Below
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I have the grouser tracks on my skidsteer , they are a godsend in the mud , you can go anywhere, but when the snow flies here in western NY I take them off and put chains on, they don't do well in snow unless im missing something!
I have grouser too, they are fine in snow, terrible on ice. When I first got them it took me about 1 hour to put them on, now I can do it in 15-20 min
Could you add spikes for ice?
They just spin in the snow. If you ever have to re do your treads use the rubber coated ones and then you will be able to use the tracks in the snow.
your not missing anything they are like iceskates
if you chain up all 4 tires it really turns the machine into an animal
You make everyone want their own Stoney Ridge Farm. You've inspired me to buy a farm.
You've all got one right here buddy! Wooooo!!!
@@captaincrazypants10 why?
One thing I've learned after installing grouser tracks several times is to air down the tires before you install. You can install them somewhat loose. Once you air back up they tighten right up. They are still a pain but it makes it a lot easier.
To all the people saying you don’t need to use the safety lockout, you don’t need common sense either, but if you have it and use it, you will live and succeed.Very good video
Josh your doc will love this . My Chiropractor asked me what kind of lifting I did . He said he couldn't prescribe a better way to mess up ones back . He was going to go ahead with his new back deck plans .
To make things easier, place a 1”x 6” deck board between both tires underneath the track so u don’t have to struggle holding the track while ratcheting.
When I put our Grouse tracks on I drive the loader onto the tracks until there is one pad behind the rear tire, then I attach a chain to that pad and run it over the tire to the bucket. If you do it right you can slowly pull ahead while raising the bucket and use it to pull the track over the tire.
Just before he enlisted in the USAF, our son worked for Public Works and was certified on skid steer. I don't recall that he ever had to mount tracks, so now I'm one up on him.
Helpful hints take a 2*4 and cut it to the length of gap in between tires set it in the middle of tires . That way your track are in line with each other. The use a piece of rebar or whatever will work for the bolt size to help pull them together. Just put a set of grouser tracks cast iron ones on my landlord 773 bobcat
Nice video love the country life
Its been a while. I realize the holidays have been tough for us all, and you have had some challenges in your personal life. I hope you are well. Thank you for inspiring us! We are looking to relocate from Las Vegas to East Tennessee and do something similar. Keep on keeping on brother!
I have Grouser Tracks for my 865 New HOLLAND purchased new in 1998 Machine and tracks used for 13 yrs before I purchased new tires I know unbelievable but it's true, I need to rebuild my tracks now, USE A LADY FOOT PRY BAR TO LINE UP THE LINKS TO INSTALL BUSHINGS AND BOLTS IT'S NOT TO BAD I DO IT BY MYSELF ! TRACKS ARE BAD ASS FOR THE MUD ! GREAT VIDEO ! LET'S HOPE FOR THE BEST IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN !
I always hook my ratchet up on the front of the front tire and rear of the rear tire. Get them ratcheted and roll the machine back and forth a few feet. Takes a the slack up on the ground side. Then put a board between the tires to help support the track while bolting them together. I can get a set on in about 15 minutes now.
Tracks of course. That's why I told you before about the argo with Adair tracks.
My grandpa put tracks on his new holland skid steer years ago. This will be very helpful when it comes time to remove them as he passed away and I had no clue how to remove them
I have a set of the Tracks plus on a Bobcat 743. It will go through the mud, where without them You would not be able to move. I have to run them alot tighter than You have them on the Cat, or the tires will spin inside them. To get them tight enough I let the air out of the tires when I put them on, then pump them up. One problem with the Tracks plus You can't run them in the snow. They will grow into one big ball. They said that when I bought them. I found out they were right. That metal does wear also. They say the bolts are 9 grade. Never heard of that before. But they still wear. I've got about 500 hours on them. I have to keep adjusting them up every so often. Don't regret buying though. They make 100% difference.
kind a wish my tracks were lighter like the ones you have, mine are more like real dozer tracks. heavy as crap. 2 inches of sag. it's that time for my to adjust them. pressure washed them sat. not sure if i'm going to take them off and adjust or try it on the machine. i use my small john deer with forks to lift the track on. heavy tracks are nice if your tracking in dirt. but not nice on the machine.
Traction Tracks.
I have grouser tracks also on my s160. I let my tires way down and have teeth on my bucket. I use the teeth on the bucket to pull the rachet strap and slack out of the track. Then I inflate the tires. It takes me by myself 25 minutes to put on the grouser trackes
I just purchased some Grosser Tracks and they are hell a heavy and I have no help but I was thinking deflating some the tires first so I can get it tighter with air but will a ratchet strap around the outside of the tire and track will allow yo to get the back track up when you do it alone.
When friends come over to help me, I always have beer 🍺 on hand. Where's the beer?
his bride took it !!
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Beer once work gets done my brotha...I remind my farm help of that frequently lol
Thank you so much, Stoney Ridge Farmer! We hope you and Cousin Vick enjoy the tracks!
Them there is called shoulder bolts.
And you should air up the tires after installation which tightens the track more than you can pull.
We run those things on a 7810 for years in early 2000’s foam filled tire and wheel spacers. They worked but a man killer when it was time to work on them our change a tire tuber tacks where a game changer.
I was thinking when you said new tires on skidybop ...you were going to need to extend from last year😆
Have a wonderful evening❄❄❄
I have a set of rubber over tracks for my Case SV185, they work great for soft ground, mud, and steep inclines.
I always raise my loader arms up to get them out of the way.. I also have the rear counter weights on my 325 so it is a little tighter getting the tracks up around the rear weights.. I made a tightening tool out of an old ratchet chain binder that works very well..
Try turning the tracks upside down in a straight line, dive up to it, hook your strap up to the end, wrap it over voth tires, back up and drag the track over the wheels and keep goin till you have the track under both wheels and you can hook em together. Did this on wheeled harvesters/forwarders for years. Can do it by yourself in the middle of the night in -10. Takes 20 mins for a pair
I've had those track plus tracks on my skidsteer for over 15 years. No complaints 👌
the svls has tracks and ssv's tires
How many hours is that ? The tracks plus don't seam as aggressive as the grouser tracks
@@wjamesm1001 the kubota tracks accully last long time plus the tracks for kubotas are acculy not to bad of price wich my buddy replaced his and only cost him $1,000 for both tracks wich cat and deeres are around $5,600 plus kubota accully only one has different track options to choose from plus kubota uselly has discounts on tracks and tires when buying new or used svl 75-2 or svl95-2 track loaders or ssv wheel skid steers
@@wjamesm1001 probably have 800-1000 hrs on the tracks. They are smoother than the grousers and I think they tear up less on hard turns. The main thing is they provide enough floatation.
@@andrewscott2866 Gotcha ! Flotation is better on the track plus , traction on the grousers . How much wear is there for the hours on the track plus ?
That was pretty cool editing when you were working on the tracks. The sounds of the impact wrench as it went through the editing cuts were almost musical.
Handyman Jack in the same position as your strap makes a great puller with a board between the tires to hold the sections up.
When your tensioning the tracks it can help to drive the machine forward and backwards 6" to work the slack out of the bottom side. Whenever I take our tacks off (usually once a year) I like to split them at a bolt in the loose position so when I put them back on I can put the bolt in the inner position to tighten the tracks slightly.
I wonder if you let some of the air out tire would help some just a thought
Those look good Josh. On your machine, I think the cleats are probably forged, not cast, I could be wrong, though.
The tracks plus is more for flotation more than traction. I have them on my skid steer which I use in sandy loam soil. I couldn't make it 2 feet w/out them
Learn as you go, nothing wrong with that! I learn best by actually watching/doing. Can you leave the tracks on all year or only during mud/snow time of year?
@Toni you can leave them on year round.
You could put a piece of 2x4 between the tires so your tracks can lay on a lot easier if your by yourself
Flip the tracks over when on the ground in front of the skid steer. Hook a chain to the end grouser. Pace the other end of the chain over both tires of the skid steer, tucking the excess chain under the rear tire. Back the skid steer up on top of the chain. The chain will pull tight, continue backing pulling the tracks over the tires until the grouser ends meet up. Attach your tensioner at this point and drive back to gain access to attach the links. No need to lift heavy tracks.
Dude, a come along would go a long way right here
Will be interested to see how the special tempered tracks hold up. They sure seemed easier to handle. Looking forward to seeing you get to use the 2 TYM tractors more. Enjoyed it Josh, thanks man.
Doug
Great content love the channel josh keep up the great work thank you
Appreciate it!
Cant wait to see them in action.
Great vid brotha it's allways fun on the farm isn't it ..lol but ya got to love it and I miss the old farm work I'm 52and I busted my but for 2dollars a hr .but loved every minute of it ..it's well missed ..I'd love to come see your farm and help ya out a lil bit .your good peaple brotha ..godbless and stay safe
This video was exactly what I was looking for. Very helpful Bryan you kindly.
Ooooo watch your fingers boys!
Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 👍
Tracks should give much more traction for sure. Hard work--to hard for me anymore. Great information.
Thanks
Ifit was me I would use the lighter tracks so maybe they would not tear up the mud and stuff you may have to go through
Michael
Hello hope you are doing great
Good to see Skiddy bop rolling around! Thanks for the info bro! I always lean something!
Hi.... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
Sold my grouser tracks. Too hard for 1 guy to manage. Picked up some tractionttacks but haven't put them on yet.
Get rid of the strap and get a track tool, and take the weight off of the tracks, it will make your life easier
"I'm gonna show this vidso to my chiropracter"! Superb! Hello from snowy Malvern, England. Subscribed.
Great video Josh 🇺🇲 WOOOOOO 🇺🇲!!!!!!
Didn't find out which was better.
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Great video Josh!!
I use a board under the track between the tire when I do it single hand to help hold it up.
It takes me like 10 minutes to put on both of my tracks and that’s including tightening them to. I have a track tool/ratchet strap. Makes life a whole bunch easier
The Grouser tracks seem like they’d last through Armageddon
Looks like cast iron tracks vs steel tracks. Nice demo.
Wait, you can use the adjustable wrench backwards?
Love the videos man
LOL I was thinking you were using the wrench bakerds and the you said it ...Lol. I'm not critical usually but that was funny!
Great video stoneyman love the content buddy
That John Deere is a BEAST!
I got the ls170 with tracks plus! Haven't gotten stuck yet. And the price was 1,700 delivered!
This just made me remember the image of a guy I saw break his arm 30 years ago in the Army. He was "breaking tracks" on an M88 and they were very rusty. He was using a tool to do and and fighting the thing fierce when his arm slipped off and hit the tracks breaking it. Be careful with that stuff Josh, those aren't anywhere near the job of dealing with tank tracks, but I'm sure those can still do some damage.
This is the best method I’ve seen done. Easiest on the back.
Good video.
Woooooo!
tracks will totally change the machine have you looked at those rubber tracks ?
Would it help you adjust the finale tension or sag if you do this with the tires slightly under pressure? Then you can use the air pressure as the finale adjustment to get the correct tension? Just thinking outside the box. I'm sure everyone has their own preferences for the install.
I have to ask : could you drive onto the tracks just enough to have some track behind the back wheel and then pull the track over both tyres and put in the bolts behind the back wheels instead of between the wheels ?
yes ! for me I would have steel over tires. best pf buth worlds.
You missed a good chance to use the Cat to help do the heavy lifting when putting the tracks on the JD.
U didn't do anything wrong, but 30 years of putting tracks on my machines I've figured a few things out. If u have help, have one guy drive the machine on to the tracks and other guy rolls track right up around tire, no slack and less weight to pick up.
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Use a 1/2 poly rope from the rear track and over both tires to the front(first drive the front tire forward onto the rope once over both tires) tires the back end to the track. (Both sides at the same time once you know how to)
The drive forward to haul the track over to the front top tire. To can remove the rope in between the tires once done.
The rachet the track a bit. Reverse the skidsteer so the open end in in between the tires to set your slack and or bolt in on with out slipping after your rachet it tight to bolt holes.
Just advice. They are heavy.
true American hold on bro !!!!
I think it would be interesting to see if you could have a similar size skid steer with wheels versus one where you put the tracks on in order to see how they perform in a muddy test area. They say that treads will leave less of an imprint than tires on a skid steer. Would that also be true when you mount these steel treads over the tires?
He did a video on that with his machine in mud. Huge difference! I am surprised he takes them off.
@@brianhillis3701 thanks I will have to check it out. Hopefully it'll be easy enough to find on these playlist
Yep....got one out there....1000% improvement! Wheeled skid loaders are useless on wet muddy ground
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer is there footprint lighter than the tires?
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Yes I found it and I see what you mean! Absolutely a night and day difference between the tires and the add-on tracks.
Truley enjoy your vlogs but here lately it seems like your just doing info commercials . Just me being honest I know your better then that I still watch Keep it real Brother
Hayes
Hello hope you are doing great
@@lydiaanderson1747 hope you are as well Anderson You too have a great day
@@darrylhayes9066 Yeah, thanks! I was surfing the RUclips channel and I came across your profile in a comment and thought you seem worth talking to, hope you don’t mind
I'll take the tracksplus over the other ones because i don't trust any company that doesn't show prices on their website! So if the tracksplus tracks go for 2k how much are the ones you bought for your skid steer because i can't find the prices on their website?
Finger pinchers for sure, watch your tutus!
Thanks mate - perfect timing. Ive been wondering what how to get my JD s240 some better traction....new tyres or some OEM tracks. Will let you know how I go. Really informative video. Thanks from the Snowy Mountains of Australia
When you goin going to put that big bat wing on that new beast of a tractor lol
when grass starts growing again! The cows are eating me out of house and home lol
Hey Josh thank you for the video I enjoyed it and it was very interesting video to watch and I will give you a woo. Back woo hehehe
Did the skidsteer finally make it through a whole video without a leak, bud?
yeppers
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer #progress. Haha
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer It is just marking its territory, it doesn’t want that CAT to try and take over, Duh. 🤣
Can you put rubber tracks on that fit with rubber tires?
you can bolt on rubber feet to these tracks
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer put paddle tires on the skidsteer pls
Wow Awesome Technology 👌
I don't want to believe the old man stronger than him
lol huh?
"I'm gonna show this video to my chiropractor".....ROFL
Why not just drop one cross bar to start with on the new tracks.
that weird ratchet strap thing on the 1st set looked like a bad joke. seems like a standard 2 inch ratchet strap with hooks would be better.
I'm surprised that they don't powder coat those tracks to at least make them semi rust proof.
would be a total waste...the minute they hit dirt they'd be stripped of powder coating
If the tracks are heavier, they will have more sag with the same amount tension.
👍 yes🐴🐴
Why do you join the 2 ends in the empty space between tires, fighting the gravity that pulls both of them down when you can do it over the top of one of the tires (moving forward or backward that current position)
The open area is necessary to run the bolts through the connecting links and secure with nuts.
from my experience in heavy equipment over the years, these style units wear out the tires quicker and are a cheaper option but still a band aid compared to real tracked skid steer. if they get side pressure they can cause a lot of tire damage, inch and half to three inches is hard to maintain and harder to adjust compared to real tracked vehicle. for temporary use they are costly and cause replacement tires being necessary. a true tracked vehicle the tracks last much longer, are easier to adjust, and pricey to replace but they last a lot longer than tires. they don't have the traction of real tracks and if out of adjustment they can be damaged and need costly repair. and an option I wouldn't use them . also metal tracks can't be used on hard surfaced roads.
Me: You're using the spanner backwards!
Stoney Ridge Farmer 3 seconds later: Tell me we're using the adjustable wrench backwards.
Me: LMAO
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