It is always better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission, but I feel maybe that doesn't count when you have an airline full of people at a busy airport
"You want us to follow Lan Chile all the way?" "Oh I don't want you to follow him to South America but all the way to the runway, yes please" Ha, made me crack up big time!🤣
I heard in another video (which I can't find now) told a Jet Blue/American pilot to follow a 747 to (taxi?) and said, "it's the plane in front of you with the 4 hair dryers under the wings". Maybe I'll get lucky and find it.
“Norwegian can’t figure out how to turn into the ramp - he’s working on it. The airplane was smart enough to get here but getting to the ramp is a challenge.” 😂😂😂😂 I could never have worked next to Kennedy Steve. That man would have had me laughing my ass off all day - I’d have got nothing done haha!
Eh, he lengthened a taxi for 20 minutes because the pilots had the audacity to confirm turning left and he says to go right just for the heck of it for my company once. Power corrupts
@@inventiveowl395 Yeah, people like @Redridge07 expect you to FIRMLY insert a MASSIVE stick up your ass. That way you can assure no humor can be used during anything productive. You see, the type don't believe that you can be highly professional, highly regarded, and damn good all while maintaining upbeat and humorous interactions. It just doesn't compute and that's the reason for the stick. It can reach far enough to engage the "Be that guy" button which accomplishes removing any and all social interaction abilities. :)
Kennedy Steve....if you're ever reading this....thank you. Thank you for not letting planes collide, and keeping everyone safe. I don't know how you kept your sanity.
Steve was a beast on the mic ! He was in total control , former pilots flying into JFK wake up sweating to this day , afraid to fuck up on his shift and frequency !
Steve is essentially an FDNY kitchen full of fighters busting each others chops distilled into an air traffic controller fielding people from all over the world from different cultures. Brits keep their cool the most with him it seems, probably used to him seeing as it's JFK, lol.
The best one for my 35 year Airline Career:- " Sydney Tow Charlie Zulu Alpha there appears to a Beer can on the taxiway" (Sydney Tower Australia) "Charlie Zulu Alpha, full or empty?". Every pilot on the ground grabbed the mike but we were too slow. BTW We were the only Airline in the World that asked Clearence Delivery for a "Green Flight" clearance & we got special priority. (The "Greeny" was the local Hotel ATC & us drank at).
It's been at least a year since I last listened to Kennedy Steve. Hearing him makes you want to drive/fly over to Long Island just to see all the controlled chaos.
*THANK YOU KENNEDY STEVE !!* Thank you Kennedy Steve for doing such a great job managing the chaos of NY airspace! You truly deserve a raise and recognition for handling such pilots so effectively, and teaching future Controllers in the art of NO B.S safe vectoring. #WeAppreciateSteve
Allegedly conversation between Frankfurt and a BAflight (Brithish Airways") BA pilot asked for confirmation of something... Frankfurt "have you never been to Frankfurt before?: BA pilot "No, but my Grandfather flew over in 1943, but he didn't stop"...
There's another story that goes similar to this. An American was traveling to France, and upon arriving, he was fumbling, trying to find his passport. The customs agent rolled his eyes and told him he should have known to have his passport at the ready. The traveler apologized and said last time he was in France, he didn't have to show his passport. The customs agent said that was ridiculous, and France has always required showing your passport. The traveler snapped back, "The last time I was here was in June of 1944 and i couldn't find one single Frenchman to show my passport to." Hope you enjoyed the laugh, just wanted to return the favor.
@@timmystips3935 More a sign of how too many Brits are stuck in WW2 as the last thing they feel is relevant. It used to be "I flew over Frankfurt", now it's Grandpa, I am sure I will live to see it updated to great-grandpa.
"Follow the rich people on your right" - picture is of a lufthansa with an Emirates on it's right. Love it. I was sad to not hear "Earth to Emirates 205 super!" Also "I deserve ramp pay for all this work" - unironically true. Idk why ramp earns more than ATC.
Kennedy Steve. One of the worst ground controllers I ever experienced in 30+ years of international piloting to major airports. Along with another female JFK controller. Amazing how many clips online there are of confusion between controller and pilot that involve him, and JFK. Instead of throwing up red flags some people interpret it as good controlling and entertainment. His derogatory and frankly bullying conspiratorial “asides” to usually USA carriers, often at the expense of pilots of foreign non-English speaking nations, reminds me of schoolyard bullies & one of the most utilised examples of inappropriate behaviour used in CRM courses; the one where the Captain’s and Flight Engineer’s belittling of the F/O led to a fatal crash….. the “difference between a co-pilot and a duck” story, where the F/O’s last words were something like “die you ****” shortly before impact. Sadly, several of the current JFK controllers continue in the same tradition. What many KFK controller fans do not realise, is that behind the scenes, most international carriers (and I suspect a good many domestic carriers) hold JFK and its controllers in poor esteem, but either are too polite or realise it is pointless to point it out or comment on it. A controller’s job is not to belittle and entertain. The “Kennedy culture” in a cockpit would never be tolerated in modern cockpit, with this exact type of culture and behaviour addressed as negatively impacting on safety at every CRM course developed. It is also interesting to note that the worst of JFK behaviour is experienced amongst Ground Controllers, which leads me to suspect that the people in charge actually recognise the problem, and places those people where they could do the least amount of damage. With my carrier I been flying regularly to 9 or so of the largest USA airports. While JFK has largely remained the same for the last 20 years that I have operated there, airports like Chicago, LAX and Miami have massively improved and have become a pleasure to fly to. Kudos to MIA which has a great reputation amongst foreign crew. We suspect they must have got a CATCO appointed there several years ago who was on a successful mission to standardise with international norms.
Loving this. 🤣I miss the days of being able to put on the headphones early on the plane and tune to the channel to listen to this kind of conversation... if that is still possible when flying, someone please let me know. Cheers
Get a data plan on your phone & only turn airplane mode on once the plane gets onto the runway. There are live streams of most major airports on liveatc, just Google it.
during flight, you'll have to look for flights with wifi onboard. Theyre overpriced though so it's better to select the few who offer free wifi instead.
How come the Brits manage to do the Same , but in Such a Professional way and with Perfect English ! Flew B 727 / 707 / 777 and DC 8 into JFK . Started in 1988.
I would have such a hard time keeping my composure with this ATC dude. I have this problem, once I start laughing? I’m done. Take me outta the plane 😂😂
There are some rude and unhinged, unprofessional AT controllers at the New York City airports. Must be the scabs from the 1980's that got permanent jobs.
The Aussie or Kiwi saying “I know” with the opposite tones of American English has provided an excellent example of these dialects might not be mutually intelligible.
Not sure there are many facilities that he could get by with that. All have quality assurance offices and tape talks. Most facilities are real sticklers with phraseology.
It appears there more lax on the ground Taxing communications at Kennedy. There’s different controllers for takeoff and landing. And the other people taking care of the Ramps
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"Maintain radio silence" is the most ATC way of telling a pilot to "shut the hell up and let me do my job." LOL
Well i'm sure he responded offline "Alright f*ck you too buddy." At least that's what I would do hahaha
"The airplane was smart enough to get here but getting to the ramp is a challenge." Steve could absolutely torch 'em when pressed.
autopilot only works in the air!
This was hilarious
@@trustmeiknowwhatimdoing3720 lol
😂😂😂
I spat my coffee out when that part came in the video.
I miss Kennedy Steve. He was the best ATC and obviously loved his job as he could be very serious but also knew how to have fun at times.
Did he get fired?
@@andrewd433 Retired
@@richardlaundon Gotcha, he's hilarious.
@@richardlaundon is that why vids so short now?
Is he retired, at what age? This job at New York without humor, would be insane burn out!!
"I see you are doing it anyway, so permission granted, I guess..."
It is always better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission, but I feel maybe that doesn't count when you have an airline full of people at a busy airport
😂😂😂
@@Trains_Travel_NZ well you can do it, exactly once :D
“Ok…so we’ve been cleared to-“
“Fine! Taxi the ramp”
“So…we’re-“
“YES! Taxi the ramp and MAINTAIN RADIO SILENCE!”
😂😂😂 he was done with him
3:04 "It's not a good plan. It's the only one we've got though"
Gold
Basically ATC's way of saying "it ain't much but it's honest work" 😂
"If you're nodding your head, I can't see it sir."😆
He said this as I was reading your quote. So strange.
That got me too🤣
"You want us to follow Lan Chile all the way?"
"Oh I don't want you to follow him to South America but all the way to the runway, yes please"
Ha, made me crack up big time!🤣
Absolute best!!!
😂
Yes, epic !!😂😂
that's my fave.. native NYker loves Steve
I heard in another video (which I can't find now) told a Jet Blue/American pilot to follow a 747 to (taxi?) and said, "it's the plane in front of you with the 4 hair dryers under the wings". Maybe I'll get lucky and find it.
"I dont want you to follow him all the way to south america"🤣 that killed me
“Norwegian can’t figure out how to turn into the ramp - he’s working on it. The airplane was smart enough to get here but getting to the ramp is a challenge.” 😂😂😂😂
I could never have worked next to Kennedy Steve. That man would have had me laughing my ass off all day - I’d have got nothing done haha!
rumor has it Kennedy Steve is still hailing Emirates 205 Super to this day
Sand people which u gona do..
😅
LOL.
Kennedy Steve was efficient and effective, all with a remarkable sense of humor. He is legend.
He is not very professional
Eh, he lengthened a taxi for 20 minutes because the pilots had the audacity to confirm turning left and he says to go right just for the heck of it for my company once. Power corrupts
@@Redridge07 For a New Yorker, that's professional
@@Redridge07Ah, I see.. You mean uptight.
@@inventiveowl395 Yeah, people like @Redridge07 expect you to FIRMLY insert a MASSIVE stick up your ass. That way you can assure no humor can be used during anything productive. You see, the type don't believe that you can be highly professional, highly regarded, and damn good all while maintaining upbeat and humorous interactions. It just doesn't compute and that's the reason for the stick. It can reach far enough to engage the "Be that guy" button which accomplishes removing any and all social interaction abilities. :)
Kennedy Steve....if you're ever reading this....thank you. Thank you for not letting planes collide, and keeping everyone safe. I don't know how you kept your sanity.
Chivas Regal?
@@3rdandlong He got better paid than that, I hope.
"If you're nodding your head I can't see it" Makes me laugh every time
"Jetbluetug1gorightonalphayoutalkveryfast" killed me
That was superb!
Steve was a beast on the mic !
He was in total control , former pilots flying into JFK wake up sweating to this day , afraid to fuck up on his shift and frequency !
Is that ATC at the beginning? I recognised his voice and instantly thought ' Oh, these pilots have to get their act together! It's *that* guy!'
No need to read the title or description to know that this ATC guy was at a New York airport. I love it.
Steve is essentially an FDNY kitchen full of fighters busting each others chops distilled into an air traffic controller fielding people from all over the world from different cultures. Brits keep their cool the most with him it seems, probably used to him seeing as it's JFK, lol.
Yep!
"Ya killin' me heah" 😂
The best one for my 35 year Airline Career:- " Sydney Tow Charlie Zulu Alpha there appears to a Beer can on the taxiway" (Sydney Tower Australia) "Charlie Zulu Alpha, full or empty?".
Every pilot on the ground grabbed the mike but we were too slow.
BTW We were the only Airline in the World that asked Clearence Delivery for a "Green Flight" clearance & we got special priority. (The "Greeny" was the local Hotel ATC & us drank at).
It's been at least a year since I last listened to Kennedy Steve. Hearing him makes you want to drive/fly over to Long Island just to see all the controlled chaos.
I hope Kennedy Steve is doing stand-up comedy shows in his retirement.
He'd have an audience rolling on the floor, while he insults them! 🤣
It's like a call center without the mute button... I love it.
Except funnier because if you don't listen to the ATC, you won't make it out alive 🤣
‘Well, I don’t want you to follow him to South America…..’ 😂😂
"I can't read your lips from here." Classic Kennedy Steve!
Taxi to the ramp and maintain radio silence. Professional way of saying "Just go and STFU!"
I love when ATC gets fed up and just tells the pilots to shut up
Pretty sure I talked to Steve years ago when flying the Saab out of JFK. What a legend.
Cool!😎👍
some people in the comments are really upset by the way this guy talks, but for a new yorker hes being straight up friendly with them lol
Americans are kind of known for being crass and or abrasive, but my experiences in New York showed they are on another level
I'm from the UK and I have no problem wit Kennedy Steve.
Right? This whole video is "welcome to NYC!". Lol
@@drd675 American tourists are the worst.
@@drd675They are a unique group even to the rest of us in the Mid-Atlantic region. Only possible rival is New Jersey.
“If you’re nodding your head sir I can’t see it” killed me 😂😂😂
God I love this guy. He should write dialogues for films.
"If you're nodding your head, I can't see it".😅
*THANK YOU KENNEDY STEVE !!*
Thank you Kennedy Steve for doing such a great job managing the chaos of NY airspace! You truly deserve a raise and recognition for handling such pilots so effectively, and teaching future Controllers in the art of NO B.S safe vectoring. #WeAppreciateSteve
Kennedy Steve was great. I love pulling up some of the old videos to get a laugh.
ATC is like a FaceBook discussion - if you can serve a sarcastic remark you score
JFK: nothing like being at a state of the art 1936 airport designed to handle maybe 50 flight each day.
you're thinking of LaGuardia
@@shchorss Yeah, that was a bone head on me.
I don't want you to follow him all the way to South America lmao! That was classic.
Kennedy Steve was a legend!!! Loved hearing him, bring him back!!!!!!
I was based at JFK flying for United 2000-2015 and absolutely loved working on ATC with Steve!!
A national treasure Kennedy Steve was!
I have an image in my head of this guy just corralling a bunch of unruly tugs from the tower like goats.
You know you've watched too many ATC recordings when you can recognise their voices!
Allegedly conversation between Frankfurt and a BAflight (Brithish Airways")
BA pilot asked for confirmation of something...
Frankfurt "have you never been to Frankfurt before?:
BA pilot "No, but my Grandfather flew over in 1943, but he didn't stop"...
There's another story that goes similar to this.
An American was traveling to France, and upon arriving, he was fumbling, trying to find his passport. The customs agent rolled his eyes and told him he should have known to have his passport at the ready. The traveler apologized and said last time he was in France, he didn't have to show his passport. The customs agent said that was ridiculous, and France has always required showing your passport. The traveler snapped back, "The last time I was here was in June of 1944 and i couldn't find one single Frenchman to show my passport to."
Hope you enjoyed the laugh, just wanted to return the favor.
That joke is so old by now, it's buried on a cemetary for WW2 veterans.
@@HDreamerIt might be old, but it's very appropriate... and funny.
@@timmystips3935 More a sign of how too many Brits are stuck in WW2 as the last thing they feel is relevant. It used to be "I flew over Frankfurt", now it's Grandpa, I am sure I will live to see it updated to great-grandpa.
@@HDreamer Actually my Grandfather WAS a navigator in a B-17 and flew 35 missions.... just sayin'
He was always worth the price of admission.
This is so NY I thought we were gonna get "EYY I'M TAXIING HERE"
This controller has a funny way of talking with pilots 😄
He's a new yorker that's how they all speak
Man I could make a full hour comedy routine from these ATC recordings
Just love the accent of the BA (Speedbird pilot) so calm and professional.
There will never be another like Steve.
Pearson Dave is shaping up to be the successor.
This is gold. It’s like you you stuck Lois C.K. in the tower. 😂
😂😂😂 love him ❤❤❤ don’t talk to me until you’re taxiing 😂
There will NEVER be another Kennedy Steve
Kennedy Steve…… aka
Mr.Sarcasm , gotta love him. 👍👍👍👍
"Follow the rich people on your right" - picture is of a lufthansa with an Emirates on it's right. Love it.
I was sad to not hear "Earth to Emirates 205 super!"
Also "I deserve ramp pay for all this work" - unironically true. Idk why ramp earns more than ATC.
Lufthansa first is so much more expensive as well lol
No it must have been a private jet like gulfstream or global
He does the "rich people" joke a lot. It's always a private jet.
As far as I know after Kennedy Steve retired from ATC he became a ramp manager.
@@georgeh5075 Lufthansa first is nicer than Emirates first IME.
Kennedy Steve. One of the worst ground controllers I ever experienced in 30+ years of international piloting to major airports. Along with another female JFK controller. Amazing how many clips online there are of confusion between controller and pilot that involve him, and JFK. Instead of throwing up red flags some people interpret it as good controlling and entertainment. His derogatory and frankly bullying conspiratorial “asides” to usually USA carriers, often at the expense of pilots of foreign non-English speaking nations, reminds me of schoolyard bullies & one of the most utilised examples of inappropriate behaviour used in CRM courses; the one where the Captain’s and Flight Engineer’s belittling of the F/O led to a fatal crash….. the “difference between a co-pilot and a duck” story, where the F/O’s last words were something like “die you ****” shortly before impact. Sadly, several of the current JFK controllers continue in the same tradition. What many KFK controller fans do not realise, is that behind the scenes, most international carriers (and I suspect a good many domestic carriers) hold JFK and its controllers in poor esteem, but either are too polite or realise it is pointless to point it out or comment on it. A controller’s job is not to belittle and entertain. The “Kennedy culture” in a cockpit would never be tolerated in modern cockpit, with this exact type of culture and behaviour addressed as negatively impacting on safety at every CRM course developed. It is also interesting to note that the worst of JFK behaviour is experienced amongst Ground Controllers, which leads me to suspect that the people in charge actually recognise the problem, and places those people where they could do the least amount of damage. With my carrier I been flying regularly to 9 or so of the largest USA airports. While JFK has largely remained the same for the last 20 years that I have operated there, airports like Chicago, LAX and Miami have massively improved and have become a pleasure to fly to. Kudos to MIA which has a great reputation amongst foreign crew. We suspect they must have got a CATCO appointed there several years ago who was on a successful mission to standardise with international norms.
I never knew this side of the story... :l
Remain radio silence AKA shut up 🤣
3:40 "If you're nodding your head, I can't see it, sir."
I laughed too loud at this one.
I understood about -10% of this but still hilarious
Knowing very little, this was still amazing lmao
Loving this. 🤣I miss the days of being able to put on the headphones early on the plane and tune to the channel to listen to this kind of conversation... if that is still possible when flying, someone please let me know. Cheers
Get a data plan on your phone & only turn airplane mode on once the plane gets onto the runway.
There are live streams of most major airports on liveatc, just Google it.
during flight, you'll have to look for flights with wifi onboard. Theyre overpriced though so it's better to select the few who offer free wifi instead.
"Maintain radio silence" 😂🤣😅😂🤣😅
How come the Brits manage to do the Same , but in Such a Professional way and with Perfect English !
Flew B 727 / 707 / 777 and DC 8 into JFK .
Started in 1988.
Hong Kong airport too, even clearer actually
There should be a reality show called “Real ATCs of NYC”
That would be incredible. Only reality show I’d watch
Please add a pause or a small audible signal to identify different clips.
Kennedy Steve is a legend
Kennedy Steve was the best. Very quick witted indeed. He was a very experienced ATC guy.
Yuk know, the world is a sadder place since Steve retired! I miss his humour.
That voice is none other than Kennedy Steve😊
As former Army ATC that was crazy. Luckily I only had 2 days that were memorable.
I would have such a hard time keeping my composure with this ATC dude. I have this problem, once I start laughing? I’m done. Take me outta the plane 😂😂
Friggin New York controllers, hilarious… I love how they mix humor in with direction and clearance
I was laughing my ass off listening to this. Definitely made my day considering I’ve been having a bad one.
He sounds and talks like somone from the "sopranos" lolol, almost expected to hear him say" You're gonna get whacked if you make that turn" lolol
"if u are nodding your head i cant see it"😂😂😂😂
0:49 Follow the rich people. XD
I don't want you to follow him all the way to South America ... LOL
"I don't want you to follow them all the way to South America..." got me laughing out loud!!!
The tug exchange got me 😂
2:33 bro didn’t even have a chance to read back when atc was just clogging up the frequency with his “EmIrAtEs 205 SuPeR???”
Dang! These videos are good! 😂
"Follow the rich people to your right" 😂
He was on fire that day 🤣😭.
These pilots makin me nervous to fly again 😂
Kennedy Steve is a legend in these streets
“Getting to the ramp was a challenge”😎🤣
I love Kennedy Steve!
This happened to me with Qatar, runway wasn't clear and he was asking which taxi lane you have parked. 😂
I wish I could hear this convo from my jump seat 😂
Legend has it Emirates 205 Super is still trying to respond.
How the heck aren't there more accidents and SNAFU's with all the sarcastic bickering?
Usually on the ground channel in the USA
The airplane was smart enough to get here and then we clear airplanes for take-off while a bunch of traffics are crossing the runway haha
There are some rude and unhinged, unprofessional AT controllers at the New York City airports. Must be the scabs from the 1980's that got permanent jobs.
Omg, Steve is SAVAGE! :)))
God I love Steve.
The dialogue is another language so cool 😎 extremely intelligent to listen to.
The Aussie or Kiwi saying “I know” with the opposite tones of American English has provided an excellent example of these dialects might not be mutually intelligible.
"you're nodding your head, i can't see you"😂😂😂 epic
Not sure there are many facilities that he could get by with that. All have quality assurance offices and tape talks. Most facilities are real sticklers with phraseology.
It appears there more lax on the ground Taxing communications at Kennedy.
There’s different controllers for takeoff and landing.
And the other people taking care of the Ramps
I get it!
Being an ATC is like herding toddlers….I can do that😂😂😂
This distinction between Ground and Ramp at JFK is unique and not conducive to safety
It's pretty normal for busy airports tho
Reminds me of an SFO controller years ago. Traffic 11 O clock probably John McEnroe in a 152.
The man, the legend. Kennedy Steve!