Canteen Systems: Heavy Cover vs. Canterbury
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Let the viewer beware this video is a focused of the two canteen systems not the kits themselves though the kits are discussed in detail.
Pathfinder Canteen Kit:
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Base weight (Stove and Canteen Kit): 1 lb 10.5 oz (stove is 4.4 oz)
Heavy Cover Canteen Kit:
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Base Weight: 10.03 oz (includes a 0.7 oz Titanium Lid - 1.3 oz Plastic Lid optional)
It's important to make sure you purchase a CANteen and not a CANTeen. Be organized and prepared, know the difference!
I really appreciate seeing the difference between the two bags! Thanks!
for some people, weight is important. this is a great video.
The side pouches are generally intended to carry a few packs of water purification tablets, not really designed for altoids tins.
The last time I used a canteen was 1969; the North Vietcong were using me as target practice. It served me well there. Now, later in life, I use a Maxpedition 12 x 5 water bottle holder and a Nalgene Guyot Design s.s. bottle. But my system gets pretty heavy after awhile. Perhaps its time I revisted the old trusty canteen again. Hey thanks for the video, my friend.
Thanks for your service.
Don’t worry about the haters
I think your review was very informative-answered the questions I had about the titanium canteen BEFORE I spent the money. The weight explanations as well as each part, how the parts differ from one another. Great job man!
New Subscriber, thank you for making a comparison video on these two canteen kits.
Thank you for this video. It had exactly the info I was looking for.
Thanks for the great in depth review and for sharing. I recently got a Pathfinder canteen cook kit, but like you said, it is quite heavy even with no water yet. Good to know there are other options. But the Heavy Cover, is too heavy for my wallet. Thanks.
I made up a kit to keep in the vehicle for day walks or just fixing a meal when checking out a new area and the backpack is at home. It's a emergency kit using the Stanley Cook Kit to keep in my Jeep , Wrangler. Using a Condor H20 pouch. Starting at the bottom of the of the pouch there is a Oilcamp Stainless Steel Space Saver Cup. Then the Stanley Adventure Cook Camp System which fits ( sits ) inside the cup. The tapered sides of the Stanley Camp Cook kit fits inside the cup like it was made for it. Along the outside of the Stanley is a long handled Titanium spoon. Inside the Stanley is the Gen2 Folding Firebox Nano Ultralight Backpacking 3" Stove. On top of the Stanley is a Trangia Alcohol burner so I can cook with either alcohol or wood. The outside pocket of the Condor has a plastic ( Flask shaped ) 8 oz bottle which has the Denatured Alcohol for the Trangia. Next to it is a fero rod for lighting the burner or starting a fire. Folded next to the fero rod is a bandana which can be used if the handles of either pot gets to hot for a bare hand to touch. A few months later I added two canteen pouches one on each side of the Condor H20 pouch. One pouch has a Nalgene canteen in it and the other pouch has a couple dehydrated meals. Thanks to using a wood fire the Stanley has a nice blacken bottom and sides which I think helps it to heat up quicker.
Sounds like you have an all-round great kit meeting the same philosophy of use... much more affordable too. I've seen vids on the Stanley cup set. All robust gear.
Both are awesome kits but the weight of the pathfinder kit is just too much for practicality. I ended up buying 2 heavy cover sets. They are the best. Will last forever too. I also carry a toaks 2000ml pot, heavy cover fry pan, and a keith ti kettle. All bases covered. Expensive yes but the weight savings can't be beat.
I wholeheartedly agree. I'm considering getting a second.
Are you serious? The weight difference isnt that much once filled with water.
@@gxrebel1730 It actually is a substantial difference if you consider the cup and the lid, the water is indeed the main weight, but that's an unchangeable amount, you can't carry less weight of water without carrying less quantity of water, lightening your other gear though does have a cumulative effect.
The Pathfinder canteen set weighs 175% what the Heavy Cover set does, and doesn't include a lid but rather a GI style stove.
I like both of those kits, I have one of the GI kits, then a few other different ones and styles, but like that heavy cover one really good!!
The opening for the canteen stove is the best overall size and shape for its design purpose if you're having trouble getting wood into it then you're using wood that is far too large try using small twigs I burn Twigs in mind and broken up pine cones and there's plenty of room to put that sort of fuel into the stove
.. there should be a way to Report 1 handed videos, buy a tripod please!
yeah right u buy a tripod for 1 video.. its a public platform he can do whatever he wants
Be very careful of the price charged at checkout on the selfrelianceoutfitters/Canterbury website.
I put several canteen stoves in my cart and when I tried to checkout the items disappeared. I tried to put then back in the cart but they raised the price on the items to almost triple the cost. I tried to write review earlier but I'll have to try again as they are not automatically published this website. They censor the product reviews so that they can minimize the negative reviews. All you have to do is post a negative review and see what happens. I even called and spoke to owner at the Canterbury's selfrelianceoutfitters. He denied that they changed the price. He flat out lied to my face even though he clearly knew he was lying. Very disreputable
Be careful.
Does anyone know if the GI stove that goes with the military canteens will work with these titanium types.
Yes! The aluminum GI stoves nest with the heavy cover TI cup just fine.
Thank you for sharing this video, It's very good.
The appearance of the two looks very similar, so can their cups be interchanged?
Just buy whatever type of canteen you need, then buy a molle ll canteen cover then sew on the accessory pouches you want.
I look at it like its worth the money an investment not to have to carry the weight less weight more food. It is titanium so it will last a long time gavin you still take care of it. To of these kits are still way lighter then a steel set or anything like it. you can boil a shit load of water at ones with too of these sets plus add a Toaks 2000ml titanium pot and still crazy light.
It wasn't real clear to me if you know what your talking about!
Enjoyed the video keep up the good work be blessed
Do you find it's a pain in the ass to slide the Heavy cover past all the other stuff every time you take a drink?
It isn't of much difficulty. I made it harder by sticking my Emberlit Fire Ant stove, spork, and fish mouth spreaders behind my canteen kit so there is less clearance. In this case, it just takes a little jiggle to get it out in order not to hang up on anything... nothing tough though.
Without the Emberlit, spork, and fishmouth spreaders I have no difficulty. In comparison with the Canterbury kit the Heavy Cover kit is smaller in size and this helps.
Bakelite, (if it actually IS Bakelite, shatters when dropped on concrete or rock.
Huge drawback.
your Tim kit is closer to 200$. I am not sold on either idea.
Can you provide a link to the Amazon fish mouth spreaders please?
I hope the following link works for you. If not, search "fish mouth spreaders 6inch" and you should come to what I purchased. Be sure to select the 6 inch variety.
www.amazon.com/FishingSir-Mouth-Spreader-Fishing-Tools/dp/B01N547Y25/ref=pd_ybh_a_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=EXZEAZ3C8CWF0FXPM43T
Thanks. When I did an Amazon search there was a LOT of hits. Lol.
heavy cover kit is nice but to rich for my blood.
also is like to support Dave and the pathfinders for all they have done for the common man..
I priced the heavy cover bag . it was over $100.
I took an old pair of carhart bib overalls. ..cut off the pockets and made my own. cost me .......well nothin.workd just as good.
I call I the common man's cover..
Hey, man. Whatever works!
All they've done for the common man? You mean like sucking him dry by charging three time what a product is worth, or by charging so much in shipping and handling they can't sell their products on Amazon, or very many other places?
You mean by having their products made out of inferior materials in China?
Or do you mean by looking down on people and pretending they're common when he really means dirt poor, and still does nothing for them except overcharge for everything they make, and for every bushcraft and survival course they teach?
Maybe you like thinking of yourself as a common man because you can't afford to spend a hundred bucks. They doesn't make you common, it just makes you dirt poor. It's all Canterbury's way of trying to suck everyone in.
As just the most recent example, Dave Canterbury is a dishonest con man with no interest in anything except money. He hated stainless steel knives, right up until Mora made him their U.S. ambassador, and suddenly he carries one everywhere. You must have drank a lake full of his Kool-Aid.
Tripod, Ritalin , gather your thoughts!
Damn son, get a tri pod or set your GoPro in a level rock so you can produce your video lol ! Your presentation was very good.....invest a couple bucks
Get a tripod! I won’t subscribe.
I don't like or use either of them. I think the Pathfinder set is better, but it's still Chinese junk, and too big to be practical. I use the plain old G.I. canteen cook kit and mess kit. It still works better than anything else out there.
If you want to save on weight, save it somewhere that you don't store water. Even your titanium kit weights twice what mine does when you load yours up the way you do. You're paying a huge amount of money just to carry more weight.
I know people think a forty ounce canteen is great, but it isn't. Unless you want to wear suspenders, the military cook set is the max you should hang on your belt, and those kit, when full of water, are a pound heavier than the military cook set, and you definitely don't want that extra pound on a shoulder strap.
The military had good reason for making their canteen cook set the size they did. If you want more water, which is reasonable, it should be in a separate canteen, not all in the same one. There are good reasons for this, other than just the extra weight you're adding where it affects you the most.
Bigger is not always better, and canteen cook sets are one of the places where bigger is worse, much worse, but people can't get over the, "Wow, look at how big it is" factor.
Being made in China doesn't always mean it's "Chinese Junk", I've seen plenty of made in America stuff that was also junk, it just so happens that most of the junk gets made in China because there's such cheap labour and such lax regulation on quality.
There's plenty of legit companies which put out quality products however and the "Chinese made is junk" prejudice actually harms them and enables the crappy companies to continue to outcompete them on price while continuing to sell junk to any reseller who will be dumb enough to buy it.
You bought a garbage pouch from top gear. $300 to carry 32 oz. of water? That's insane and I know someone will give me crap for saying it about the beloved "TITANIUM",,,,,, but I don't care. Nice review though.
If your gonna do a review, at least weigh the items your reviewing without all the extra stuff with them to give people a base line. Its cool to show the whole kit and weigh it, but would be nice to see the weigh of the individual parts of the actual canteen setup for each one. Probably have a half pound or more of extra crap with the heavy cover one lol
The Rambler Roger that. I meant to do that but it slipped my mind. I will annotate the base weight.
Stats: The Total weight of the cup, cup cover and canteen is 9.6 oz. One can either go with the titanium canteen lid (which I show) which is an additional 0.7 oz for a total of 10.03 oz or the plastic lid which weighs 1.3 oz for a total of 10.9 oz.
I like to have one set of that canteen ..but how buy
Organized. .. you didn't even have your ideas about what you wanted to say in the video together.. dog barking wasn't the issue with your video .. lack of a tripod was .
Jeez this was a painful video to watch and listen to. If you're going to review something, prepare ahead of time so you're organized, plus for the love of God stop all that stuttering and stammering and umming and aahing. I had to skipping through the vid - so annoying
altoid kits are a joke