BEST Option? Pathfinder BOTTLE or CANTEEN Set
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2023
- So what is the best option, the Pathfinder Bottle or Canteen set? The Bottle Set and Canteen Set are two of our all-time best selling products. Dave Canterbury explains the background on development, and why you may carry one or the other. Stainless Steel Canteens and Bottles and accompanying products are not all created equal. Dave explains why both Pathfinder sets have not only served him well on thousands of hikes and overnights, but will serve him well for years to come. The Stove for each set is perfect for over the coals or when paired with our Pathfinder Alcohol Stove. The thought process and continued development of the Canteen Set and Bottle Set in addition to our "Pathfinder Promise" Lifetime Guarantee speaks volumes to the degree we stand behind these sets and our quest to continually improve. Single Wall Stainless Steel construction and well thought out designs that pull influence from proven designs of the past, are what set Pathfinder Apart. If you are interested in either of these two sets, please check them out here:
Dave, thanks for doing this video! I've been torn between them. So might as well get both!
You do know that means you better spend some time in the woods. 👍👍
@SelfRelianceOutfit I try to everyday!
I have both, you won't go wrong
@danielmatthews4262 thanks! I appreciate the first hand knowledge! Although I must say I've Never received any bad piece of kit from PKS, Pathfinder, or Self Reliance Outfitters!
Just recently, I added the Pathfinder PFM40 (Swedish Mess Kit style) Cook Set to my Pathfinder Stainless Steel Canteen Set in my pack. This is a great setup for cooking up some lunch or dinner when in the woods. On longer journeys in this hot weather, I’ve also been carrying an additional 32 ounces of water in my Pathfinder Stainless Steel Bottle. That maybe a bit of container overload, but I’m usually doing more cooking than simply boiling up some water. Self Reliance Outfitters designs and sales rock solid camp cooking equipment. Very satisfied with these purchases.
Dave you are my favorite survival expert man i miss watching you on tv been watching you since i was a kid
As an ex British soldier, I totally agree with you on the water bottle and cup set. In the 80,s I had a plastic water bottle and cup. I hated it. I always wanted a metal version just to boil water like you said. I have now have the crusader mug but need the bottle to fit. Not sure if the American bottle will fit. Fortunately I'm not a soldier anymore. So don't need to worry about it too much. 😂
Austrian canteens will fit in the plastic British canteen cups
@@varnellhopkinsiii6863 Thanks for the info, ill have a look at it.👍
@@captainscarlet6758thanks for your service 👍🏴
Bring back Dave and Cody .... a youtube survival show with these two legends would rock !!
The bottles sets fit perfectly in outer pockets of a medium Alice pack.
I love the idea of the additional batwing cup.
Nice. 10-15yrs ago there really wasnt a lot of cup and bottle type options. Today its a golden age of containers compared to the 80's 90's and early 2000's. Good stuff
It’s good that you’re finally going to make the double cup system
We’ve been using the double canteen cup with the bat wings for years
Love getting home from dialysis and have a Dave Canterbury video loaded showing his magnificent designed camping equipment. I like both.❤️😎👍
SUPER Excited about batwing cup. Been waiting for such a cup for a long time.
me too
Yah but we need to create a campaign to push for it. I contacted, they said put off till next year
@@johngayley2588 I just have written you a message on FB...hoping that it's you account there
I think the most overlooked addition to the bottle cookset is that the entire thing including the stick stove will fit into the pathfinder 40 oz cup.
With that theres still room for the alcohol stove or a butane fuel can inside the molle bag. Best kit ever. Food and drink with 2 stove options.
Keep it up Dave!
Needs a spoon added.
I can't find the double (butterfly) handle canteen cup on your website. Can you give me a link to order please? Would be a nice Christmas present.
I never go into the woods without one of these, usually the canteen set. The stove makes a good water pre-filter too. Truly essential kit
My bottle set is from the era when the cup had holes for the fish mouth spreader to hang over fire - only criticism is i forget the holes are in the rim and regularly dribble coffee down myself 😂
Yeah actually pretty good info. I was wondering the same thing the other day.
I never knew about the kettle but the screen is interesting.
Can't wait for the cup with wire handles.
Cool deal Dave😊
thanks I use the bottle, nice to know I can put the klean kanteen cap on it, which I prefer from a previous klean product I had. I added a small 250ml SS cup that nests on the lid of the bottle so I can have tea/coffee as well as a meal at the same time. great products
I have been carrying the double canteen cup rigging for years I finally switched over to the Pathfinder canteen set and I added my 1981 basic training canteen cup and I am as happy as a Pathfinder on the trail
I have both,(well two of each) it depends on the kit it fits in better.
I like cooking in the canteen cup over the regular cup. But the bottle usually fits in the kits better. While in the Army I shaved in my canteen cup, then made coffee with it
When I go out I almost always gravitate to my canteen set
You can use the stove as a scraper for fero rods as well using the oval holes.
you can use the edge of the pot stand also or a sharp rock I dont carry the pot stand tho the striker that comes with these new sets is very nice
I bought the pathfinder canteen set, w the old school handle, I love it. I keep it in a old French military canteen cover because it withdraws perfectly while on the belt and drops right back in just like an old USGI.
I've been debating which one to buy for so long! I guess the canteen does make more sense for the campfire. Thanks Dave
Can't go wrong with either one. I would suggest a fish mouth spreader for placing and removing either one from a camp fire.
Very clever yet beneficial designs that make a lot of sense! 👍
🎉🎉Great video. By far the best complete set I've seen. All nests together perfectly. Very well developed. Largest cup I've seen. More like a bushcraft pot
Hey Dave I have both sets. I carry the bottle and cup set in my edc pack side pocket. I've just recently started carrying the canteen set. Just to let you know it will fit in the Hill People Gear bottle pouch. I was told it would not fit the canteen set but it does. Lid on botom, canteen cup and stove nest together. Theres a bungee cord lock on top that holds it in.I carry it on the prairie belt with molle attachment.
The bottle, cup and stove set are part of my backpacking set that I never leave at home. I have used them for years, abused them, and they are still rock solid. It is all I need for cooking and drinking.
I appreciate your experience Dave.
Dave, thanks so much for this video. It's great to see the ins and outs of each set.
VERY timely as deciding which to purchase. Thanks!
Yes, getting BOTH a good idea!!
SRO gear rocks! Been using that kettle every week for years now. Use the screen upside down in the winter inside my bush pot with cold food in foil suspended on the screen to steam warm it. Great for reheating ground venison taco meat on the wood stove.
Thank you!
Both are great, but it's the canteen for me hands down.
It's easier for me to grasp for opening, I like the lower profile kidney design that hugs a pack on the side bottle pocket, it's old school, it's MILSURP on steroids and I just subjectively like using it more. Anyone can pour 32oz in it, put a mark on the outside of it's wall and BOOM! That issues is solved regarding using water purification tablets. #LifeIsEasy
I'm just getting into UL kits like a Ti cup/pot combo for recreational hiking and gravel cycling, but for woodcraft (traditional camping, old school outings, hunting, etc...), give me that stainless steel canteen all day, everyday and thrice on Sunday. Nothing else will do. All my survival rigs have stainless bottles/pot/combos. There's only going to be 3 things left on the planet if we nuke ourselves into oblivion when the smoke clears; roaches, cold handle skillets and stainless steel canteens.
I recently acquired the canteen cook set. Tested it for leaks with positive results (no leaks). Dave is correct about tweaking the tabs on the cup to ensure a good lock up. I would suggest making those tabs a bit longer to enhance the friction lock up. Other than that this kit is outstanding. I also have a couple Pathfinder bottle kits with carrying pouches. The pouches are very roomy for carrying extra stuff in addition to the bottle kit. They have a water resistant lining, also. I have a couple of similar water bootle pouches made by another manufacturer which due to a thin layer of insulation aren't quite as voluminous as the Pathfinder pouches so fitting a 32 oz bottle inside is no problem until I try to add a nesting cup. Got my first PKS knife a couple years ago and have added 2 more since along with the Pathfinder water containers/cook kits and a Pathfinder skillet and I haven't been disappointed.
I've had the large canteen kit for almost 4 years now and still haven't had any problems. Yes they get black, but an SOS pad later they are good as new.
Nice! Thank you!
I have both systems. The Pathfinder Bottle System is in my hiking/camping pack, and the Pathfinder Canteen System is in my wilderness/ survival pack.
I have a second, batwing cup in my wilderness pack but it’s nested around another canteen.
Pathfinder products are scattered throughout all my bags, kits, and packs.
In the deep wilderness, or any time your life depends on your equipment, it pays to get the best products out there.
I've got both for the exact reasons you mentioned. Thanks Dave and SRO for your innovative designs.
I say get both although I prefer the canteen set because I have always used USGI surplus canteens with cup and stove that all nests together.
Great Products. I like a combination of the two. Canteen cook set in my canteen carrier or in my haversack. Canteen set is my food cooking set. And what I drink from while hiking. Then one bottle cook set in one of the pockets of my back pack. Then a second bottle for the pocket on the other side. This is what I make coffee in. My brew setup. This way I can be cooking and making coffee at the same time. With just one set my food or coffee gets cold. This gives me over 3/4 of a gallon of water. Most of the time I use Trangia type burners with both sets. By the way the Canteen stove makes a good digging tool.
I have one of each water bottle and canteen with cups looking forward to using them this weekend
I thought this was going to be a vid just about canteens and bottles, but wow what a lot more . Very very cool, thanks.
I own two of each set, complete. Both are awesome and like Dave says both have advantages and disadvantages between each other. One thing is for certain, just like all Pathfinder SS cookware both sets are of exceptional quality and, once you buy one you're gonna want the other....so might as well buy both....you won't be disappointed. Great products!!! Excellent video Dave!
Yes! This idea of the nesting strainer-basket and lid from the, Kettle set are great pieces to join other pieces of kit; I've been wanting to call SRO for years to ask about that idea, just not often available when I'm home from work. Very good move I believe that you folks are going to be doing that soon; thanks Dave and SRO family!
Thanks for this!
Nice. I have two bottle set and well pleased. I also have vintage WWII canteen cups sets ane well pleased with them as well. I had to buy recent production stoves for the canteen sets. Not a perfect fit but works.
The bottle set is fantastic and fits great in my helikon tex mk2 rig. And there's a grayl/pathfinder nesting cup in the other bottle holder the mk2 has
Dave, great video and info!!!!!!!!
Well explained Dave thx for that👍
Thank you for this comparison. It was helpful.
I have both and love them!
The 64 Oz water bottle cup which is 48 Oz will hold the 32 Oz cup and parts too. I like that bat wing cup for the army canteen. Hope that comes out soon.
Looking forward for the addons for my on sets. Thanks for quality outdoor gear.
I got them both. I put the canteen set on a war belt I made with a Maxpedition Janus pack and a Mora field knife.
Can we expect a return of the kettle at some point?
I don’t have either but I think I would get more use out of the canteen.
I own both and they have been used for many years and have never failed to be amazing. Buy both!
I have the bottle and cup set. Love them. Thanks guys.
THANKS DAVE
Well done Dave still the best of the best
The 2nd cup on top of the canteen, I can see that as a game changer
I quit buying SRO bottles when they stopped _selling_ them. After buying 3 bottles ( over time ) I lost one that popped out of my carry bag while it was strapped on my Sportsman. I tried to buy another, but SRO informed me they only sell them in a SET now. So I have been buying Klean Kanteen 40 oz. bottles ever since. They fit in my SRO cups, they have better lids, and they're only $30 compared to the SRO set ( $50 after shipping). I'm tough on equipment a gear. I only have one SRO water bottle left, even though I have 4 cups and lids. I've replaced 3 with Klean Kanteen bottles at this point. I am unsure about why they gank their longtime customers like this by absolutely refusing to sell them a freaking water bottle, but it has all worked out int he end. For those who are buying their first set - it's a great set but for the lid. DO NOT PUT THE LID IN THE DISHWASHER. It will ruin it. I messed up 2 lids by forgetting. My other lids ( KK's, YETI's, and Stanley's) have been through the dishwasher a hundred times. So I forget I have to handwash the SRO lid. But the kit. It's great. Just know if you ever need to replace the bottle, or if you want an extra bottle, they're gonna gank you for a whole kit.
Thanks for the info I have a 40 oz KK and the PF bottle set but had never tried to mix them.
Yeah, bro. Appreciate the 'heads up". I trashed my lid once in the dishwasher. Melted one side a bit flat and it leaked after that. Had to buy a new one. I didn't know they won't sell ya a replacement bottle but they'll sell ya a replacement lid. Seems hinky.
Another fantastic thumbs up video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom.
Great video Mr. DAVE
This just solved a problem I had w a cook kit I put together w your PFM40 Swiss Army Mess Kit.
I added an extra canteen cup , lid and alcohol stove inside the kit which left me: a cup, a pan and a pot.
Fairly robust and complete except for one thing: a container.
The simple upside down extra canteen cup over the top of the canteen gives me a cup, cook pot AND a container🎉😃
Both of these set ups , the PFM40 and double cup canteen BOTH fit perfectly inside the Pathfinder MOLLE Bag😃
I've had your bottle kit for over four years and I would LOVE to get that basket and lid addition!
Show eu tenho o kit do cantil e vou adicionar o outro tambem !
Great information
Out of all my cool bits of kit, my canteen set is one of my most beloved. Not flashy, not expensive, but beautiful in its own rite. A joy to use and I have 100% confidence in it.
Thanks. Have one of each and your presentation bring up some new points. I look forward to you have the additions for each available.
Good thing I took the time to wach this 😊 I didn't know about all the features of the canteen set, i still need to get a bag for the set 🥺
Solid Info!
Hey Dave, Giant fan, I myself only shop with SRO. And I went with the bottle/stove/cup/lid set with the fishmouth spreader. I keep a multitude of things inside the bottle when I'm not using it to carry water. It goes perfect with my Duluth haversack too.
Outstanding information! Very clarifying for helping me decide on what to purchase first!
Great informational video Dave
Great video I’ve been contemplating while setting up an emergency ultra light pack for my boat the last few days, waiting from an order from you to arrive tomorrow,love your videos and approach, big thumbs up from an old boy from Harlan Ky, keep up the fine work sir.
Very informative
Great info. Thank you.
I have them both and love them both. Like you said there are advantages and disadvantages to both. I love all the gear you make it's all wonderful and great quality.
Great gear period. Have had mine for 7 years now. Bottle set an now am working on saving for the canteen set.
Love the crusader cup, i have a Dutch army stainless variant.
My plastic bottle doesn't fit inside but other stuff does.
Great work mr C.
Thanks Dave
Definitely the canteen set. For the woods. Water bottle set for get home bag
I have both but when I’m at work I have the canteen on my harness mainly because I like the cup with it more for putting in a fire melting snow or making coffee on the fly but I do use the round water bottle alot when I have a back pack mainly because it just fits the outer pockets better for me
Danke für das geniale Video. 👌🏻✊🏻
Great updates on Bottle & Canteen set. We tweak items we bought to our specification & usages in the outback & rescue mission. Both are excellent set, it's just preference. Cheers DC from Australia.
The VDV canteen set is great because it provides two cups and lets you still drink out of the canteen without moving the cups. I find I don't need two cups frequently, so I stick with the greater volume and durability of the steel SRO canteen set.
Hey Dave, when does the new canteen cup with the bat wings come out? On the website it is still the older model? I love your idea of combining the two for a more complete cook system. Love your stuff and your products, keep up the awesome work and gear.
I would like to ask the same question! Dave, I can't find the "new" cup for the "big" canteen kit anywhere. WHERE and WHEN will I be able to buy this special extra cup?
Please let us know! It's time to have it😂! Greatings from northern Germany!
I have the bottle kit and love it
What you say makes absolute sense. I use the South African version of the bottle set on small hikes but use the SADF canteen set for overnighters and more self sustaining purposes when outdoors for a lengthy period of time.
I have the canteen and love it!
I love my pks Kephart as well!
Thanks for all the hard work Yinz fellas put in to help us out!
Appreciate it!
Thank you, the Kephart is a great choice!
I love mine. Canteen. I found a pouch that actually fits it and then some. I found a cork stopper for mine for when I boil water in it. Don’t want to ruin the screw on cap. Wish they’d make a stainless cap for it. I’m going to find a screen to fit my canteen, great idea. Maybe just a piece of food grade screening with a rubber band for filling canteen straight out of a water way so debris can’t float in.
I've used the canteen set for years. It pairs well with a German style mess kit, for the extra pot and cups. However, an extra cup might replace this setup for me.
Thanks for explaining the setup options, lots of things here I wouldnt realize until I used it for a few months. Really happy to buy from pathfinder / SRO because I know the products are made to work together and continue to be improved upon with various options and upgrades over time.
Amazing level of design thought and detail attention in these products! DoD should contract with Pathfinder on all their basic camping equipment procurements.
Like what someone else asked, what happened to the titanium sets? I bought one. Like the 2 different cups with it.
Thanks!
I have both of these items and I have used the bottle set much more than the canteen set mainly because I day hike much more and use the bottle set to drink from and a quick lunch or Ramen noodles. The alcohol stove is perfect for this since we are in open fire restrictions so much of the time. Both of them are great items for backpacking and camping.
The hiking aspect is where it loses me. The point is that it all nests together, but if you're out hiking, you need a bottle of water ready to drink....not a bottle nested and packed away. Do you just not drink or are you adding excess weight by carrying additional water?
@@Swearengen1980 yes, I do carry an additional bottle of water for quick swallows during my hike. Personally, I’ve never bought into the weight obsession. If I was hiking the AT, weight would be a factor. But, for a 4 hour day hike, I can handle an additional 6 or 8 ounces. I don’t buy ultra-light equipment and I use a 5”, stainless steel Firebox stove. So, yeah, I bring extra drinking water. When I was a Boy Scout, my backpack weighed more than I did. LOL.
@@elderhiker7787 I'm not a big nitpicker on weight either. It's just that if you piece all these types of videos together for everything you "should" have, you do end up with a 50 lb pack. Staying at a reasonable 25-30 lbs of gear isn't "weight obsession", not like the people who try to get to 10 lbs. I actually do hike long distances (like the AT), as well camp, hunt, etc. I try to make most of my purchases multi-functional (excluding fire/cooking), so weight to some degree does factor in and I have to pick and choose which areas I do need to go ultra light on. Really it comes down to, I don't consider a 4 hour hike to camp "backpacking". If they claim a gear is meant for backpacking, then it should be convenient and intended to be used often, easily accessible, over long distances for days at a time.
Another advantage to the canteen set is that it conforms to your body. So, it looks better on you when worn on a hip belt or cross body as opposed to the rounded bottle set which sticks out more.
Batwing handles on a canteen cup are the only way to go
no fussing around with your tab and that lever and the canteen cup collapsing, spilling your coffee on the ground
with bat wings. It’s simple
fool proof.
Why must people steal things I purchased one of yalls canteen a few months ago and maybe used 3 times and on one camping trip I went on a hike and when I returned my camp was gone. It took me a few years to build my camp set up I'm so sick of how our country is turning out great video thank you
Great video and designs. I’ve never had any of those plastic canteens (not counting later Nalgene variants) which EVER quit tasting like plastic. Especially if it was a 2nd quart on a hot day or later.
Yeah, you never shake the plastic/chemical taste no matter what brand plastic. The only plastic "canteen" that works without the taste problem are those "Smart Water" bottles which are big with UL thru-hiker types if going with a "canteen" setup.
A lid for the water bottle. Like the nesting cup would be cool.