I love my moken 10 v2. When I purchased the boat I was 375 lbs (6'4") and had no problems with it at all. Now that I have lost weight and 310lbs. The boat is more stable I can now stand and fish and over the summer of 2022 I got to test my limits with the boat it is very hard to flip while in the boat. I started with a cheaper yak from Walmart just to dabble in the sport of kayaking and loved it so I upgraded to the moken 10 v2. With a lot of research and I'm glad I did in October of 22 I took the moken out for a 7 day camping trip and packed 50lbs of camping gear and food plus 30lbs of fishing gear and never once felt uncomfortable in the boat paddling over 3 miles a day
I love my Moken 10 V2. Perfect for throwing in the back of my SUV, tie it down and put a red flag on the back, and heading to one of the local ponds or smaller lakes. I'm in my 2nd season with it and at no time have I ever felt like I was about to tip it. Plenty of stability to turn around and grab stuff out of my milk crate, etc. In my older Perception Pescador 10 I had to be a lot more core-centric and focused on keeping my weight centered when doing any reaching or twisting. I don't bother standing in the Moken for the type of fishing I do so I can't speak to that. By the way, I'm 5'9", about 185 lbs.
I've tipped mine over three times. Twice on the first day out just to see how far I could go before capsizing. A learning experience b4 taking it out with my gear. Not the smartest thing since the lake I was fishing in central Florida has an alligator warning sign at the launch. The third time involved a lure that hung on an overhanging tree branch near the bank. I was so involved with getting it out I did not see the huge hornet nest until they literally were covering my face. In the water I went on purpose. No stings.
Awesome seeing you review this boat. Bought my Moken 10v2 from you two years ago (same color). ABSOLUTELY love my yak. I’ve done quite a bit to it turning it into what I call “The ultimate compact fishing kayak”. At first what I considered cons actually turned out to be pros for me. Couldn’t be any more happier with my purchase 🤙🏼
that's a great review...I've had mine for two years....fantastic for floating downstream and fishing...I can't imagine ever tipping it over except on purpose...I've even had it pinned sideways in the rapids and it still didn't flip. It is slow....but it has a speed it travels well at...not a fast speed....if you try to push it to go fast you will wear yourself out... if you just paddle at a leisurely pace it will travel...even upstream. Super easy to turn...but, at the same time the rear doesn't try to swing out on you when you coast to make a cast. I am 6'4 270 and I have no problems with this kayak...65 pounds is just right for moving it around and getting it on a luggage rack. If you get this for its intended use...small river fishing and recreation as a stable easy to use platform...you will really enjoy it.
@@johndemario8173 If you need to paddle distance on flat water...this is most likely not the right kayak in my opinion...the 12.5 is a faster more efficient hull...this one is lighter...very stable...very comfortable...easy to turn...but it will tire you out over distance...if you are with people with longer faster kayaks...you will fall behind or wear yourself out keeping up.
Hey there! I am a shorter medium build woman. So far, your reply is the closest to what I would be doing with mine. Was going to check in and see how you are still liking yours for what it is you do with it? We mainly float/fish small small rivers/large creeks (moving water with some small shoal areas/depending on water levels-maybe a class II rapid here or there/maneuvering around a log here and there/etc...) rarely upstream, and small lakes (if we do large, it's just from our campsite area around in the cove). We also just simply do rec as well on the occasion, but it is definitely just floating on something with a good push to it. If I am understanding you right, you are saying that this tracks well without spinning out? The HooDoo my friend has which I have used and my husbands Tamarack both are awful about this. I want something that does not do this, or that I can easily add the rudder system to-and it is pre-loaded for that. What are your thoughts on this for my purpose?
Sadly I sold the Moken and got a crescent shoalie...only, because I have been paddling more and more upstream to fish...and that is a chore with a short boat. I do miss my moken...I would have kept it but the wife wasn't having 2 kayaks and 2 canoes in the garage. tracking for a 10 footer is very good...there is a little tail spin if you are moving on flat water and stop paddling... ...adding a rudder would completely correct for that....the moken is more comfortable to sit in for a long time than the shoalie... I have actually bought and extra feelfree seat and use it in my canoes. I used a friends 10 foot pelican and the spin was horrible when coasting...the moken has a little...but hardly any compared to that....the moken light now has the metal frame seat...so that might be an even lighter version for you ...but it is narrower so you would lose a little stability...all in all...I would recommend the moken 10 for anything but upstream speed or long distance on flat water...hard on the shoulders. I have also seen a lot of videos on the crescent ultralight...which is supposed to track really well...I can recommend the crescents as quality boats also...the feelfree seat is more comfortable though...some kayak shops have try out days...see if you can find one and give some kayaks a try out....its is hard to decide from just online research@@julieholmes9704
Pretty good review. Your channel is what for me interested in the Moken v2 a little over a year ago. The 4 issues I have with it are this. 1. It’s way too slow, wish they’d found more of a compromise between speed and stability. 2. The poorly designed center hatch that fills with water. It didn’t need an IPX rating, but at least design it not to collect water. 3. The Tackle box holders on either side of the seat don’t secure a Tackle box at all. Mine slide right out the bottom and wind up under the seat. 4. Like you said, the position of the paddle park is ridiculous.
I had one for 1 month and got rid of it. The moken was built like a tank but tracked bad, had bad hull water slap and felt like a slug in the water. The price is great and will probably work for other people but just wasn't suited for me. Great review and keep the videos coming.
@@HeadwatersKayak I ended up in a ck1 venture and very happy with it. The only gripe I got with it is that the nose gets pushed around a little more in the wind. But since it's so agile in the water one paddle stoke correction is all it takes to get back in position and keep fishing. Even though it's 34 inches wide it moves through the water like a narrower kayak. Crescent boats paddle great, i also ended up getting an ultralite for the wife and fixing to ad a crew to take the kids out with us.
@@andrue17 - I’ve been eyeing both the Moken 10 and the CK1 trying to decide. My two issues are 1) I’m 6’3” and 280 so I need a boat that can handle heavier paddler and 2) I need it to have a comfortable, supportive seat since I’m still rehabbing back injuries. Which one do you think was more comfortable to sit in for longer times? I don’t fish (yet) so I’m looking for a kayak I can take in the RV camping to get out on lakes and calmer rivers for some paddling, exploring, and exercise.
@@erhodes352 id go for the ck1, it's 10lbs lighter than the moken and the seat is better once you get it dialed in to your liking. The moken is also not a sealed hull which will take on some water especially where the pod console hinges are mounted. The ck1 is just a way better paddling boat and glides well with little effort. I hope that helps you out choosing between both.
I’ve run rivers all over Oregon and Washington in mine. After watching many people try my boat that the Moken 10v2 paddles very different depending on weight. At 136 lbs I scoot along upstream with barely a bow wave. My neighbor plods along at 220 lbs, my best friend at 190 lbs pushes water like you do. Matt at 220 was astounded that I could keep up with him in his 13’ pedal drive. He’s pushing a lot more water out of the way than I am.
More of a short term ownership review but so far the Moken 10 v2 has been great. My wife had no experience paddling and it is very stable even for someone with no experience. She has no trouble entering or exiting and it paddles very nice for what it is. We take it out in a shallow creek area all the way to the deeper river areas. The seat is pretty solid that comes with it and I have no issues with extended paddles. I even have taken one of my 30lb hunting terriers with me and she just sat in the bow area with no signs of taking on any extra water or loss of stability with her shifting around a little. I am 6'1 215. My wife is 5'10 and would punch me in the face for putting her weight on the internet. I will say that I don't feel very stable standing unless I am in very glassy conditions but I could cast if I wanted to, just would have to be mindful of being careful. If you are looking at this Kayak I would definitely give it a thumbs up. We paddle on the Susquehanna River both in Md. and Pa.
There's a lot of videos out there about the Moken 10 v2. This is by far the best demonstration of it's pros and cons. There are always shortcomings with a 10' boat. But the Moken 10 is packaged so well, you really don't sacrifice too much. It paddles nice, it's light enough to car top, excellent features for the price.
Outstanding for the price. Best in class. I am not a big fan if the uni-track system. I wish the stern uni-track was omitted. I agree the location of the paddle clip is too far to the rear. Also, the seat should be a bit further to the stern. When I stand up, I have to be careful to hug the seat. As I move forward a little, I start to lose stability.
I fished out of my 12’, 90 pound old town predator mx for 6 years and love it, but it’s so heavy and long. I only have a 5’ truck bed so I always wished my predator was 2 feet shorter and 20 pounds lighter. I came across a Moken 10 and instantly thought that’s the exact kayak I’ve been wishing I had. So I bought one and love it. I used it over 30 times last year. It’s perfect for the rivers and lakes around Pittsburgh that I frequent. The only time I’ll use my 12’ predator again is when I drive up to Lake Erie for spring smallmouth, which I only do three or 4 times a year.
I bought the Moken 10.6 winter camo absolutely love it I can stand up but sure with the larger ones stability is better I bought a Malone portable roof system for my 2012 Nissan Altima and tote it around everywhere....
I love watching your reviews and appreciate your honesty! I had been considering the moken 10, but changed my mind after you said it pushes the water. I bought a tamarack pro based on your review as a beginner last year. This year I feel ready to step it up a little and introduce my pup to it. That being said - I could use a little guidance. None of the kayak shops sell the ones I’m looking at so any feedback, reviews, suggestions would be great. I’m looking at the Cresent CK1, a vibe yellowfin or sea ghost and like the feel free based solely on its wheel. My pup is 10 months and huge. Between he and myself, we’re looking at approx combined weight of 325#. I am only 5’ and need to car top it on my SUV. So I’m looking for something with a spot for him, light enough to load, fast - easy paddle and not a tandem. Thanks!
@@johndemario8173 I ended up with a CK1. Its stable enough even with a curious pup who's still learning. I don't have great balance, so I can't speak to standing up. I think if you have the balance & stability to do it, you could stand. I was able to car top it with the help of the Malone Channel Loader. I really recommend this no matter what style you get! Feel like I could handle a heavier kayak with it!
Reminds me a lot of its sister brand/model Big Fish 105. I started out in a 105 and it was a great kayak to learn how to fish, stand, load, and learn what was important to me in a kayak and what features complimented my style and made my time on the water more enjoyable.
Man, I’m so glad I found this channel!! I purchased a lifetime pro the other day and came across the headwater review on it. I’ve been learning a lot about kayaking from these videos. Now I can’t stop watching!!! A much watch for anyone interested in kayaking. This man knows what he’s talking about. ✊🏼🫡
Great comparison of the different materials. I have a Eddyline Equinox and love it but my 70 year old bones need something lighter. You describe the composite Stellar. I am considering a S14G2 Advantage. Is that considered a composite or is the hull just fiberglass like the deck?
I am a younger person looking for my first kayak for fishing. Found the Moken 10 and the vibe Yellowfin 100. I am looking to go it streams and creeks and small part Rehoboth bay so what would you recommend. I am also around 4 foot 7 and around 90 pounds.
Smaller is better for you. The vibe would be better, but I’d look at even smaller kayaks like a Moken 10 lite or a Perception Pescador Sport. No reason for a 90lb kid to paddle around in a barge. Narrower is better.
What would you recommend as an entry tadem kayak? Would probably see water less than 5 times a year. Small creeks/rivers, resovoirs. Sam's club has a lifetime envoy 106 sub $400 range. Not sure if that would be ideal for an adult and 7 year old.. or if I should be looking at something different. Not sure if you have any videos on the topic
If you can find one, the Ocean Kayak Malibu Two is an awesome tandem to take the kids out in. They’re a little pricier than what you’re looking at new, but they’ve been in circulation for a long time and frequently come up used for decent prices. If you don’t have any luck on that front, i would try to track down something that’s at least 12 feet long. Kayaks under 11 feet can be squirrely even with just one adult. Add a kid to the mix and it can get really tough. Once you get into tandems over 12 feet you generally start getting stuff that’s stable enough to support two people.
Love all your vids. Just bought my 1st kayak. Pelican motion 100x fishing kayak. Been using an Elkton cormorant inflatable tandem with my brother for a month. Ready for my own. Excited and nervous at the same time.
Nice review. Good to see it in the river. I have a Moken 10 Lite. I don't really fish, I just wanted to be able to pack a decent size cooler when floating down the river. Also, for someone who like me who doesn't know any better, it paddles fine in flat water.
I got one a month ago and been out twice and boy it is a tank. Great stability, but slow like you said. Would be great for smaller lakes or don't go to far on the big lakes very fun to fish out of as long as you don't need to go very far. I used to have a Hobbi Quest 11 and it tracked great and was pretty fast but if not careful felt like you were going to tip over. By the way great review I have watched all your videos.
Hey i. 6'4 about 310 lbs i was wondering of this would be a good kayak for a guy my size?im just wanting aomething for running up and down river here in southern oregon that i can easily throw on top of my suv and head to the river, or if i should look at something a little longer ?
Thank you for this awesome review. I am considering this kayak for the sole purpose of doing photography and it seems like a very stable kayak. I am trying to figure out storage options in my garage and one question I have is, how heigh is this kayak? Online specs provide the length and the width hence my question. Thank you.
How would you compare the Moken 10 with the Liquidlogic Kiawah 10? Wifey and I are on the fence between these, and struggling between a 10 or 12ft... I feel like we'll be floating rivers just as often as lakes.. want to feel conformable if we hit a section of river that might be a class 2-ish here and there.
Liquid Logic would be a faster paddling boat but the Moken is more stable. For floating and fishing I’d go moken, for paddling I’d go Liquid Logic Kaiwah
great review. Looking at moken 10 v2 and the tamarack pro. as far as stability, it sounds like the moken is much more stable than tamarack pro? its about a $200 difference in price around this area (Nebraska). I thought i'd just pay extra for a better kayak (moken) but would you say its worth that? or should i consder a crescent? i want a 10 footer for easy of portability. i'm 5'10" 225. wanting to fish in ponds and small to midsize lakes (when its not windy) and maybe some small rivers and creeks. looking for stability, then smoothness of tracking/paddling (dont care about speed as much). whats your thoughts?
I think the $200 would be well spent on the Feelfree. The quality and attention to detail is far superior on the Feelfree. Crescent CK1 is also a great option although is a little more pricey.
to be honest I have the Pond Prowler can't beat it for fishing way more comfortable for fishing than any kayak hands down, depending how big of lake, for real small lakes trolling motor works for bigger lakes I would add a 3 or 4 hp engine. I picked up one at cabels for 700. 10 footer great for two people. If you fish by yourself a 8 footer will do.
I’m hoping for me though I’m only 5’ 7 and I’m use to light backpacking which I had to give up due to several knee surgeries That’s why I wanted to try camping this way
Hey Dan, I'm looking for a comfortable SOT recreational 10' kayak under $1000 to float/fish the Shenandoah, Potomac rivers (I'm not into fast white water, Class 1 for me) and small lakes; I've started looking at the Moken 10 and CK1 ; I'm 5'10"/190 and looking for something to throw in the back of the truck, has good water stability, and ease of movement on water; is there any distinctive advantage of one over the other between these two boats? Would you recommend something else for my application?
Hi Dan! I’ve been watching all of your reviews😊Now, that I want 2 of these, I don’t know where to get one. We live in Weed and want to use them on Lake Siskiyou. Do you know who sells them? We like the 12.5 too. Can’t find those either.
Thanks for another informative, well-presented video. In a sea (pun intended) of videos which are delivered with unbridled joy and enthusiasm for every product reviewed, those which unreservedly claim "Best" in the title, or those which require the application of a scopolamine patch prior to viewing, yours are realistic, enjoyable, and provide the viewer with what they need to know.
I appreciate that. Nothing worse than a reviewer that just tell you what they think you want to hear. There are no perfect kayaks, so you have to speak to the hood and the bad.
You can but that’s not the way to paddle. You need to have a slight bend in the knee to support you. If you legs are straight out you slouch and that ruins good paddling posture and kills stability l.
It would be way harder and more expensive than just getting the adapter. It’s not a bad track system by any means, just required an adapter for most accessories. The upside is that the adapter is much more stout than most other track mounts.
@@jddorland Agree with what Dan said, I got a 6 pack of the adapters and they work fine. I have a fish finder, paddle holder, and a rod holder mounted using the adapters on my Moken's unitrack. I think it was only $15 for the pack, though it looks like they are going for $25 now many places.
@@HypoLuxa13 thanks! Think I’m gonna pull the trigger on one tomorrow. Was thinking back and forth between the Moken 12.5 or lite tackle. The LT costs so much to ship and the Moken is only a couple of hours away. And all of Headwaters Kayak stuff, think I’m convinced on it. Thanks for the input.
Headstand... Now that's a proper Headwaters Kayak review. 👍 That being said, your walk -out on the bow- the plank was even more entertaining. 😉 But seriously... Thank you for the review. 👍👍
Going for a dip is a lot more appealing now that the sun is out again. Even if the boat could have handled it, I still woulda gone for a swim probably 🤣
I picked up my moken 10 v2 last month mainly got it for smaller creeks and rivers because I don't want to take my old town AP out picked it up in the fire red camo the the guy told me that they discontinued that color so I had to get it taking it out a few times I'm really liking it I just wish that the tank well would be a little bit bigger I can't fit a crate and a good size cooler at the same time and I wish there was a better way of strapping down the seat my cousin borrowed it and he flipped it over and the seat was just floating down in the water and it was a little hard for him to flip it over with the seat hanging below the kayak but overall it's an awesome kayak that storage hatch in the middle if you get some the door seal tape and wrap it around it it mostly keeps the water out you can spray it down with the water hose and get just a little bit of water inside compared to not having anything at all it would fill up real quick
I love my moken 10 v2. When I purchased the boat I was 375 lbs (6'4") and had no problems with it at all. Now that I have lost weight and 310lbs. The boat is more stable I can now stand and fish and over the summer of 2022 I got to test my limits with the boat it is very hard to flip while in the boat. I started with a cheaper yak from Walmart just to dabble in the sport of kayaking and loved it so I upgraded to the moken 10 v2. With a lot of research and I'm glad I did in October of 22 I took the moken out for a 7 day camping trip and packed 50lbs of camping gear and food plus 30lbs of fishing gear and never once felt uncomfortable in the boat paddling over 3 miles a day
Thanks for this comment I was wondering how I would fair as 315 lbs
@@alextran3147 your welcome no many guys my sized around doing reviews with kayaks
I'm 220lbs upgrading from a lifetime tamarack angler, I can get a moken 10v2 next weekend, how stable is it to stand and fish?
@@BareBassin it great. When I bass fish. I take a folding chair in so tall it's hard to stand but with the folding chair it's perfect.
Hey do you still have moken 10? I am 6’3 220lb and debating if moken 10 would be able to hold me or i need moken 12.5? Both options will be car topped
I love my Moken 10 V2. Perfect for throwing in the back of my SUV, tie it down and put a red flag on the back, and heading to one of the local ponds or smaller lakes. I'm in my 2nd season with it and at no time have I ever felt like I was about to tip it. Plenty of stability to turn around and grab stuff out of my milk crate, etc. In my older Perception Pescador 10 I had to be a lot more core-centric and focused on keeping my weight centered when doing any reaching or twisting. I don't bother standing in the Moken for the type of fishing I do so I can't speak to that. By the way, I'm 5'9", about 185 lbs.
I've tipped mine over three times. Twice on the first day out just to see how far I could go before capsizing. A learning experience b4 taking it out with my gear. Not the smartest thing since the lake I was fishing in central Florida has an alligator warning sign at the launch. The third time involved a lure that hung on an overhanging tree branch near the bank. I was so involved with getting it out I did not see the huge hornet nest until they literally were covering my face. In the water I went on purpose. No stings.
Great feedback. Always love hearing from folks that have spent some seat time in the boats.
Your the same size and weight as I am. Glad to hear you like your Moken 10. Mine is ordered and should be here any time now.
Awesome seeing you review this boat. Bought my Moken 10v2 from you two years ago (same color). ABSOLUTELY love my yak. I’ve done quite a bit to it turning it into what I call “The ultimate compact fishing kayak”. At first what I considered cons actually turned out to be pros for me. Couldn’t be any more happier with my purchase 🤙🏼
Great to hear!
I just bought the same kayak from you guys last week in seafoam. First kayak ever, and I'm super stoked. My son and doggies love it!
Right on. Congrats.
that's a great review...I've had mine for two years....fantastic for floating downstream and fishing...I can't imagine ever tipping it over except on purpose...I've even had it pinned sideways in the rapids and it still didn't flip. It is slow....but it has a speed it travels well at...not a fast speed....if you try to push it to go fast you will wear yourself out... if you just paddle at a leisurely pace it will travel...even upstream. Super easy to turn...but, at the same time the rear doesn't try to swing out on you when you coast to make a cast. I am 6'4 270 and I have no problems with this kayak...65 pounds is just right for moving it around and getting it on a luggage rack. If you get this for its intended use...small river fishing and recreation as a stable easy to use platform...you will really enjoy it.
Definitely a great little boat! Good to hear handles well at 6'4" / 270
@@johndemario8173 If you need to paddle distance on flat water...this is most likely not the right kayak in my opinion...the 12.5 is a faster more efficient hull...this one is lighter...very stable...very comfortable...easy to turn...but it will tire you out over distance...if you are with people with longer faster kayaks...you will fall behind or wear yourself out keeping up.
Hey there! I am a shorter medium build woman. So far, your reply is the closest to what I would be doing with mine. Was going to check in and see how you are still liking yours for what it is you do with it? We mainly float/fish small small rivers/large creeks (moving water with some small shoal areas/depending on water levels-maybe a class II rapid here or there/maneuvering around a log here and there/etc...) rarely upstream, and small lakes (if we do large, it's just from our campsite area around in the cove). We also just simply do rec as well on the occasion, but it is definitely just floating on something with a good push to it.
If I am understanding you right, you are saying that this tracks well without spinning out? The HooDoo my friend has which I have used and my husbands Tamarack both are awful about this. I want something that does not do this, or that I can easily add the rudder system to-and it is pre-loaded for that.
What are your thoughts on this for my purpose?
Sadly I sold the Moken and got a crescent shoalie...only, because I have been paddling more and more upstream to fish...and that is a chore with a short boat. I do miss my moken...I would have kept it but the wife wasn't having 2 kayaks and 2 canoes in the garage. tracking for a 10 footer is very good...there is a little tail spin if you are moving on flat water and stop paddling... ...adding a rudder would completely correct for that....the moken is more comfortable to sit in for a long time than the shoalie... I have actually bought and extra feelfree seat and use it in my canoes. I used a friends 10 foot pelican and the spin was horrible when coasting...the moken has a little...but hardly any compared to that....the moken light now has the metal frame seat...so that might be an even lighter version for you ...but it is narrower so you would lose a little stability...all in all...I would recommend the moken 10 for anything but upstream speed or long distance on flat water...hard on the shoulders. I have also seen a lot of videos on the crescent ultralight...which is supposed to track really well...I can recommend the crescents as quality boats also...the feelfree seat is more comfortable though...some kayak shops have try out days...see if you can find one and give some kayaks a try out....its is hard to decide from just online research@@julieholmes9704
@@mkanyuh we don't have anything like that around here, unfortunately. Thank you very much for your honest opinions.
Pretty good review. Your channel is what for me interested in the Moken v2 a little over a year ago. The 4 issues I have with it are this.
1. It’s way too slow, wish they’d found more of a compromise between speed and stability.
2. The poorly designed center hatch that fills with water. It didn’t need an IPX rating, but at least design it not to collect water.
3. The Tackle box holders on either side of the seat don’t secure a Tackle box at all. Mine slide right out the bottom and wind up under the seat.
4. Like you said, the position of the paddle park is ridiculous.
I had one for 1 month and got rid of it. The moken was built like a tank but tracked bad, had bad hull water slap and felt like a slug in the water. The price is great and will probably work for other people but just wasn't suited for me. Great review and keep the videos coming.
Good feedback. What did you move on to?
@@HeadwatersKayak I ended up in a ck1 venture and very happy with it. The only gripe I got with it is that the nose gets pushed around a little more in the wind. But since it's so agile in the water one paddle stoke correction is all it takes to get back in position and keep fishing. Even though it's 34 inches wide it moves through the water like a narrower kayak. Crescent boats paddle great, i also ended up getting an ultralite for the wife and fixing to ad a crew to take the kids out with us.
Right on. Crescent has some smart designs for sure.
@@andrue17 - I’ve been eyeing both the Moken 10 and the CK1 trying to decide. My two issues are 1) I’m 6’3” and 280 so I need a boat that can handle heavier paddler and 2) I need it to have a comfortable, supportive seat since I’m still rehabbing back injuries. Which one do you think was more comfortable to sit in for longer times?
I don’t fish (yet) so I’m looking for a kayak I can take in the RV camping to get out on lakes and calmer rivers for some paddling, exploring, and exercise.
@@erhodes352 id go for the ck1, it's 10lbs lighter than the moken and the seat is better once you get it dialed in to your liking. The moken is also not a sealed hull which will take on some water especially where the pod console hinges are mounted. The ck1 is just a way better paddling boat and glides well with little effort. I hope that helps you out choosing between both.
I’ve run rivers all over Oregon and Washington in mine. After watching many people try my boat that the Moken 10v2 paddles very different depending on weight. At 136 lbs I scoot along upstream with barely a bow wave. My neighbor plods along at 220 lbs, my best friend at 190 lbs pushes water like you do.
Matt at 220 was astounded that I could keep up with him in his 13’ pedal drive. He’s pushing a lot more water out of the way than I am.
More of a short term ownership review but so far the Moken 10 v2 has been great. My wife had no experience paddling and it is very stable even for someone with no experience. She has no trouble entering or exiting and it paddles very nice for what it is. We take it out in a shallow creek area all the way to the deeper river areas. The seat is pretty solid that comes with it and I have no issues with extended paddles. I even have taken one of my 30lb hunting terriers with me and she just sat in the bow area with no signs of taking on any extra water or loss of stability with her shifting around a little. I am 6'1 215. My wife is 5'10 and would punch me in the face for putting her weight on the internet. I will say that I don't feel very stable standing unless I am in very glassy conditions but I could cast if I wanted to, just would have to be mindful of being careful. If you are looking at this Kayak I would definitely give it a thumbs up. We paddle on the Susquehanna River both in Md. and Pa.
Shut up! I was looking for a woman specific review, saw this and spit out my coffee! I'm glad you take the threat upon your life seriously... LOL
I have seen a bunch of your videos, trying to get a first kayak, and you probably sold me Feelfree Moken. Thank you!
There's a lot of videos out there about the Moken 10 v2. This is by far the best demonstration of it's pros and cons. There are always shortcomings with a 10' boat. But the Moken 10 is packaged so well, you really don't sacrifice too much. It paddles nice, it's light enough to car top, excellent features for the price.
Thanks Meloy!
Outstanding for the price. Best in class. I am not a big fan if the uni-track system. I wish the stern uni-track was omitted. I agree the location of the paddle clip is too far to the rear. Also, the seat should be a bit further to the stern. When I stand up, I have to be careful to hug the seat. As I move forward a little, I start to lose stability.
Thanks for the feedback.
I fished out of my 12’, 90 pound old town predator mx for 6 years and love it, but it’s so heavy and long. I only have a 5’ truck bed so I always wished my predator was 2 feet shorter and 20 pounds lighter. I came across a Moken 10 and instantly thought that’s the exact kayak I’ve been wishing I had. So I bought one and love it. I used it over 30 times last year. It’s perfect for the rivers and lakes around Pittsburgh that I frequent. The only time I’ll use my 12’ predator again is when I drive up to Lake Erie for spring smallmouth, which I only do three or 4 times a year.
I bought the Moken 10.6 winter camo absolutely love it I can stand up but sure with the larger ones stability is better I bought a Malone portable roof system for my 2012 Nissan Altima and tote it around everywhere....
I love watching your reviews and appreciate your honesty! I had been considering the moken 10, but changed my mind after you said it pushes the water. I bought a tamarack pro based on your review as a beginner last year. This year I feel ready to step it up a little and introduce my pup to it. That being said - I could use a little guidance. None of the kayak shops sell the ones I’m looking at so any feedback, reviews, suggestions would be great. I’m looking at the Cresent CK1, a vibe yellowfin or sea ghost and like the feel free based solely on its wheel. My pup is 10 months and huge. Between he and myself, we’re looking at approx combined weight of 325#. I am only 5’ and need to car top it on my SUV. So I’m looking for something with a spot for him, light enough to load, fast - easy paddle and not a tandem. Thanks!
@@johndemario8173 I ended up with a CK1. Its stable enough even with a curious pup who's still learning. I don't have great balance, so I can't speak to standing up. I think if you have the balance & stability to do it, you could stand. I was able to car top it with the help of the Malone Channel Loader. I really recommend this no matter what style you get! Feel like I could handle a heavier kayak with it!
I demo'd this with Waterways in Austin and it was the deciding factor into adopting kayaking as a hobby.
Reminds me a lot of its sister brand/model Big Fish 105. I started out in a 105 and it was a great kayak to learn how to fish, stand, load, and learn what was important to me in a kayak and what features complimented my style and made my time on the water more enjoyable.
BF105 is a great little kayak too!
I live in Illinois and I feel like I need to drive out to Lodi to try some different kayaks out. You all do an awesome job.
Our retail shop closed down in 2020, but Lodi Paddlesports took over the space and is still a great spot to try out kayaks!
Man, I’m so glad I found this channel!! I purchased a lifetime pro the other day and came across the headwater review on it. I’ve been learning a lot about kayaking from these videos. Now I can’t stop watching!!! A much watch for anyone interested in kayaking. This man knows what he’s talking about. ✊🏼🫡
Thanks for hanging out and joining the community. Stoked you like your Lifetime.
Awesome review as always! Quick question any suggestions for water proofing the storage bin in front of the seat?
Great comparison of the different materials. I have a Eddyline Equinox and love it but my 70 year old bones need something lighter. You describe the composite Stellar. I am considering a S14G2 Advantage. Is that considered a composite or is the hull just fiberglass like the deck?
The Stellar is composite. It’s a great upgrade from an Equinox. Lighter and all around better handling.
Been researching kayaks for some time. Narrowed it down to this one but your review sealed the deal
Right on, glad it helped you dial in your decision
How do you like it? I plan on getting one next weekend, can you stand up and cast well on it?
I am a younger person looking for my first kayak for fishing. Found the Moken 10 and the vibe Yellowfin 100. I am looking to go it streams and creeks and small part Rehoboth bay so what would you recommend. I am also around 4 foot 7 and around 90 pounds.
Smaller is better for you. The vibe would be better, but I’d look at even smaller kayaks like a Moken 10 lite or a Perception Pescador Sport. No reason for a 90lb kid to paddle around in a barge. Narrower is better.
Thanks
What would you recommend as an entry tadem kayak? Would probably see water less than 5 times a year. Small creeks/rivers, resovoirs.
Sam's club has a lifetime envoy 106 sub $400 range. Not sure if that would be ideal for an adult and 7 year old.. or if I should be looking at something different. Not sure if you have any videos on the topic
If you can find one, the Ocean Kayak Malibu Two is an awesome tandem to take the kids out in. They’re a little pricier than what you’re looking at new, but they’ve been in circulation for a long time and frequently come up used for decent prices. If you don’t have any luck on that front, i would try to track down something that’s at least 12 feet long. Kayaks under 11 feet can be squirrely even with just one adult. Add a kid to the mix and it can get really tough. Once you get into tandems over 12 feet you generally start getting stuff that’s stable enough to support two people.
@@HeadwatersKayak
Would You Stick w/ That Same Suggestion for 2 Adults?
(Combined Weight prolly 410-420?)
Was Considering the “Crescent Crew”??
dude, we need a review on those shoes. those look sick!
Astral Loyaks - been using them for years and absolutely love ‘em!
Love all your vids. Just bought my 1st kayak. Pelican motion 100x fishing kayak. Been using an Elkton cormorant inflatable tandem with my brother for a month. Ready for my own. Excited and nervous at the same time.
Picking it up Saturday morning
Congrats! Hope it works well for ya.
Nice review. Good to see it in the river. I have a Moken 10 Lite. I don't really fish, I just wanted to be able to pack a decent size cooler when floating down the river. Also, for someone who like me who doesn't know any better, it paddles fine in flat water.
The 10 lite is sweet. I really hope they do a V2 of it because it’s a fantastic paddling little kayak for a smaller paddler
I got one a month ago and been out twice and boy it is a tank. Great stability, but slow like you said. Would be great for smaller lakes or don't go to far on the big lakes very fun to fish out of as long as you don't need to go very far. I used to have a Hobbi Quest 11 and it tracked great and was pretty fast but if not careful felt like you were going to tip over. By the way great review I have watched all your videos.
Quest is definitely a great paddling little kayak, too bad they discontinued them a few years back.
Thanks for being a part of the journey man!
Great review. Think I saw something similar to this one at big 5 in Redding. It had the stern and foot paddles? Looked really nice.
Interesting. I would suggest sticking to name brands if possible. Big Five usually has knock off kayaks. I’ll swing over there and check it out though
@@HeadwatersKayak I went back on the 4th and it's a Mako 10 Versa drive kayak. My mistake. Going for 1,199.00 with the drive.
I have the Moken 10v2. Been looking at the Crescent Light Tackle 2. I primarily fish. Can you give me your opinions on the differences between the 2?
Hey i. 6'4 about 310 lbs i was wondering of this would be a good kayak for a guy my size?im just wanting aomething for running up and down river here in southern oregon that i can easily throw on top of my suv and head to the river, or if i should look at something a little longer ?
Thank you for this awesome review. I am considering this kayak for the sole purpose of doing photography and it seems like a very stable kayak. I am trying to figure out storage options in my garage and one question I have is, how heigh is this kayak? Online specs provide the length and the width hence my question. Thank you.
I'd have to throw a tape measure on it. I'd say 15" as a guess.
How would you compare the Moken 10 with the Liquidlogic Kiawah 10? Wifey and I are on the fence between these, and struggling between a 10 or 12ft... I feel like we'll be floating rivers just as often as lakes.. want to feel conformable if we hit a section of river that might be a class 2-ish here and there.
Liquid Logic would be a faster paddling boat but the Moken is more stable. For floating and fishing I’d go moken, for paddling I’d go Liquid Logic Kaiwah
great review. Looking at moken 10 v2 and the tamarack pro. as far as stability, it sounds like the moken is much more stable than tamarack pro? its about a $200 difference in price around this area (Nebraska). I thought i'd just pay extra for a better kayak (moken) but would you say its worth that? or should i consder a crescent? i want a 10 footer for easy of portability. i'm 5'10" 225. wanting to fish in ponds and small to midsize lakes (when its not windy) and maybe some small rivers and creeks. looking for stability, then smoothness of tracking/paddling (dont care about speed as much). whats your thoughts?
I think the $200 would be well spent on the Feelfree. The quality and attention to detail is far superior on the Feelfree. Crescent CK1 is also a great option although is a little more pricey.
First time kayaking. Great experience. At 69 I found it to be just want I wanted to take out on the Intercoastal Waterway.
I know it's not a kayak.. but how about a little review on some of the mini boats available like the pond prowlers and pelican version, etc.
It’s hard enough just keeping up with all the kayaks that are on the market 😅 I doubt we’ll stray too much away from boats, but maybe some day!
to be honest I have the Pond Prowler can't beat it for fishing way more comfortable for fishing than any kayak hands down, depending how big of lake, for real small lakes trolling motor works for bigger lakes I would add a 3 or 4 hp engine. I picked up one at cabels for 700. 10 footer great for two people. If you fish by yourself a 8 footer will do.
I’m really new to kayaking and the question I have
How would the 10 handle river camping trips like for 3 or 4 days?
Not enough space for me.
I’m hoping for me though I’m only 5’ 7 and I’m use to light backpacking which I had to give up due to several knee surgeries
That’s why I wanted to try camping this way
Sold! Just bought one.
Hey Dan, I'm looking for a comfortable SOT recreational 10' kayak under $1000 to float/fish the Shenandoah, Potomac rivers (I'm not into fast white water, Class 1 for me) and small lakes; I've started looking at the Moken 10 and CK1 ; I'm 5'10"/190 and looking for something to throw in the back of the truck, has good water stability, and ease of movement on water; is there any distinctive advantage of one over the other between these two boats? Would you recommend something else for my application?
😂 Great job as always Dan 😂 love the stability test and handstands!!
Thank you!! 😁
Hi Dan! I’ve been watching all of your reviews😊Now, that I want 2 of these, I don’t know where to get one. We live in Weed and want to use them on Lake Siskiyou. Do you know who sells them? We like the 12.5 too. Can’t find those either.
Right down in Redding Ca or over in Klamath Falls. Both shops are stocked. I run through Weed almost weekly and could drop them off. For a small fee.
@@HeadwatersKayak thank you! I found the 12.5 at Headwaters Adventure for $929 each. They don’t have the the 10. Is the bigger one better?
Any chance for you to do a review on the Moken 10 PDL?
Yes as soon as I get my hands on one. Super curious to check it out.
Can I put 8 ball steering kit from feelfree on this kayak
I’m honestly not sure. It might be able to be rigged up. I’ve never tried
Thanks for another informative, well-presented video.
In a sea (pun intended) of videos which are delivered with unbridled joy and enthusiasm for every product reviewed, those which unreservedly claim "Best" in the title, or those which require the application of a scopolamine patch prior to viewing, yours are realistic, enjoyable, and provide the viewer with what they need to know.
I appreciate that. Nothing worse than a reviewer that just tell you what they think you want to hear. There are no perfect kayaks, so you have to speak to the hood and the bad.
How about leg length? Can you adjust the foot pads to extend your legs all the way ? Thank you
You can but that’s not the way to paddle. You need to have a slight bend in the knee to support you. If you legs are straight out you slouch and that ruins good paddling posture and kills stability l.
Great intro! Great review
Thanks! Trying some new things out and really liking it so far.
What paddle were you using?
Bending Branches Angler Pro
You get my 👍
is it hard to swap out the unitrack?
It would be way harder and more expensive than just getting the adapter. It’s not a bad track system by any means, just required an adapter for most accessories. The upside is that the adapter is much more stout than most other track mounts.
@@HeadwatersKayak gotcha, thanks!
@@jddorland Agree with what Dan said, I got a 6 pack of the adapters and they work fine. I have a fish finder, paddle holder, and a rod holder mounted using the adapters on my Moken's unitrack. I think it was only $15 for the pack, though it looks like they are going for $25 now many places.
@@HypoLuxa13 thanks! Think I’m gonna pull the trigger on one tomorrow. Was thinking back and forth between the Moken 12.5 or lite tackle. The LT costs so much to ship and the Moken is only a couple of hours away. And all of Headwaters Kayak stuff, think I’m convinced on it. Thanks for the input.
Headstand... Now that's a proper Headwaters Kayak review. 👍 That being said, your walk -out on the bow- the plank was even more entertaining. 😉
But seriously... Thank you for the review. 👍👍
Going for a dip is a lot more appealing now that the sun is out again. Even if the boat could have handled it, I still woulda gone for a swim probably 🤣
So it’s not padded drive
Do you guys currently have any and how much ? I live in Modesto lol
Check with Lodi Paddlesports. They have some and if not I’ve got a pile in the warehouse in Lodi.
I picked up my moken 10 v2 last month mainly got it for smaller creeks and rivers because I don't want to take my old town AP out picked it up in the fire red camo the the guy told me that they discontinued that color so I had to get it taking it out a few times I'm really liking it I just wish that the tank well would be a little bit bigger I can't fit a crate and a good size cooler at the same time and I wish there was a better way of strapping down the seat my cousin borrowed it and he flipped it over and the seat was just floating down in the water and it was a little hard for him to flip it over with the seat hanging below the kayak but overall it's an awesome kayak that storage hatch in the middle if you get some the door seal tape and wrap it around it it mostly keeps the water out you can spray it down with the water hose and get just a little bit of water inside compared to not having anything at all it would fill up real quick
Definitely a solid throw and go for rivers. Sounds like you’re using it well!
I got 400 for a tamarak pro and I cant find one could you help
Wish I could, but shipping boats has gotten way too expensive these days! Odds are you’re just going to need to track one down locally.
try big 5 or tractor supply
Falls off boat then "stablity? Check" hahaha
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F up too
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