$399 VS $649 What's The Difference? Budget Kayak Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @twowheelslater7112
    @twowheelslater7112 4 года назад +146

    I have had both but don't any longer have either. The moken 10.5 is head and shoulders above the lifetime. The lifetime is probably a better boat for a youth and really paddles better than the moken. The moken is really stable but a barge and spins when you quit paddling. It needs the rudder to live with it. I don't think of the lifetime as a fishing yak its more of a rec yak that you can fish from. It will go over quick when you reach back if you arent paying attention. No go with a bunch of expensive tackle and rods.
    My lifetime went back because it showed up with two left foot rests and screws missing. Couldn't get parts from lifetime. They said they were shut down at the time because of covid. The moken was warrantied because it cracked behind the scuppers under the seat. Now I have a Moken 12.5 v2 and I am a happy camper. Skip both of these and get the moken 12.5. It is really worth the money. You can save on the rudder if you went with the 12.5.

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  4 года назад +19

      Great feedback. I agree for not a lot more $ the Moken 12.5 paddles circles around the 10.

    • @twowheelslater7112
      @twowheelslater7112 4 года назад +1

      @Douglas Smith The moken can have the seat in a high or low position. The moken is quite a bit wider at the seat area. It's pretty stable to stand up in. The extra volume also makes it a really dry ride. The extra width also makes it paddle slower and not glide so well.

    • @carluskurowski8273
      @carluskurowski8273 4 года назад

      Maybe u could throw the agenda 10.5 in the mix

    • @carluskurowski8273
      @carluskurowski8273 4 года назад

      Acend

    • @gregstabryla9945
      @gregstabryla9945 4 года назад +2

      Went with the moken 12.5 from the get go. Love it.

  • @HypoLuxa13
    @HypoLuxa13 4 года назад +50

    I absolutely love how you talk about and show the hulls of the kayaks you review so much of the time. So many "reviews" out there just go through the features and don't talk about the actual build and design of the yaks. Thank you!

    • @jonluis9088
      @jonluis9088 3 года назад +2

      It's also great to get the opinion from an experienced paddler for sure. I bet he paddles a hundred miles a month.

  • @rorschach5652
    @rorschach5652 3 года назад +8

    I went kayaking for the first time in my life and I loved it. If I was amazed with those cheap rental ones, I can’t imagine all the fun with one of these. Def will buy one soon, following you now. great comparison between these two!!

  • @-SINSLAY
    @-SINSLAY 4 года назад +30

    Your videos got me into kayaking this year. Finding a kayak wasn’t the easiest though due to all going on in the world. Now that I know love the hobby I’m looking to upgrade into the Feelfree. Appreciate your videos and reviews!

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  4 года назад +4

      Awesome. Welcome to the sport and thanks for watching.

    • @OGJD1984
      @OGJD1984 4 года назад +5

      I'm in a similar boat. Got into Kayaking in 2020 and Headwaters is a part of my inspiration. Started in a lifetime and picked up a Moken 14 at the end of this last summer. I'm impressed. I wanted the longer boat for the ocean around here in SE Alaska. You can't go wrong with the Feelfree Moken. The 12.5v2 is arguably the best deal on the water dollar for how much boat you get. Comfort is a huge factor in how enjoyable a day on the water is.

  • @NickyKDChaleunphone
    @NickyKDChaleunphone 4 года назад +12

    I think the Lifetime Kayaks are great for entry level kayak fishing and for those who want to get started in Kayak Fishing

    • @petersuddath6477
      @petersuddath6477 4 года назад +2

      The lifetime Teton fishing Kayak proved to be a great first fishing kayak for 399.00 at Dicks!!! Fast and stable. A good platform.

  • @6Sally5
    @6Sally5 3 года назад +2

    Dan...I’m still shopping, but have watched now probably every one of your videos. I get the stink eye from my wife when I hint around I’d like to get a kayak, because I’m almost 70, retired, and so not much extra money for yet another hobby (I do have quite a few). I think my best bet...for me...for now...will be the Tamarack (non-Pro). I just want to fish ponds, backwaters, and slow rivers. Thanks so much for your thoughtful and insightful reviews!

  • @kadams0017
    @kadams0017 4 года назад +8

    You do a really great job of going over the full boat on your walkthroughs; I just purchased a Moken 10 v2 here in Ohio and your video ( and others) helped me make my decision....your work beyond being a seller but a reviewer and content creator as well is greatly appreciated...

  • @skullduggerysmiles8393
    @skullduggerysmiles8393 3 года назад +23

    My advice is whatever kit you can afford, look after it, keep it clean and don't abuse it. It will last much longer. Always get the best paddle you can, cheaper ones tend to have less longevity.

  • @steveprinty5674
    @steveprinty5674 4 года назад +15

    Excellent review. Similar boats, but one is built down to a price and the other is built up to a standard. Nothing wrong with that, both seem fairly priced. So you get what you pay for with either one. I have met a lot of kayakers who were happy with their first “budget” boat, but are saving for a better one. I’m glad wife and I were able to skip that step and start with Eddyline. Life is short.

  • @wordhog61
    @wordhog61 4 года назад +12

    You are missed, the best Kayak reviews on RUclips

  • @Xdriftninjax
    @Xdriftninjax 4 года назад +4

    I'm 6ft 250lbs and I love my Moken 10v2, my first kayak. I think its a great boat for the money especially when paired with a Bending Branches Angler Pro Plus paddle.

    • @gregstabryla9945
      @gregstabryla9945 4 года назад

      Have the moken 12.5 , don't weigh that much but wouldn't have it any other way. Same paddle, love it. I'm sure both will last my lifetime. ( unless I get lazy, can still put a trolling motor where my sonar pod is)) don't see that happening.

  • @vernonsimmons4578
    @vernonsimmons4578 4 года назад +8

    A new appreciation for the Moken 10’ ...Thanks Dan as always.

  • @kerrypitt9789
    @kerrypitt9789 Год назад

    Dan when i was in Highschool my best friend was in shop for a semester. They built a wood frame Kayak with a treated cloth skin. It looked a lot like the Kayaks used by the Deneé in the extreme north. He took that boat out on the ocean salmon fishing as well as on lakes. It was an incredible little craft!

  • @mikes1345
    @mikes1345 4 года назад +17

    The added features seems to be well worth the added $250. I think the rudder kit would make it a top notch rig for a budget kayak.

    • @jonluis9088
      @jonluis9088 3 года назад +2

      The question then is how much more would a rudder kit add to the cost? I bet it's several hundred dollars because of the parst involved which would bring it out of the budget yak range. No?

    • @mikes1345
      @mikes1345 3 года назад

      Dang it! You might be correct!

  • @randywester5851
    @randywester5851 4 года назад +10

    So thankful for your comparisons. You do an excellent job.

  • @TJ_Loves2fish
    @TJ_Loves2fish 4 года назад +1

    I have a V1 Moken 12.5. paid 600$ for it brand new when the V2's came out. I must say, the wheel in the keel that Feelfree puts on their kayaks has made me a Feelfree fan for life.

  • @moziasgezias
    @moziasgezias 3 года назад +2

    I got a bigfish 105 for my first kayak 2 years ago and still love it, and its holding up very good.

  • @WardenofWolves
    @WardenofWolves 4 года назад +4

    Aloha Dan. I'm in the market for a used kayak, but not either of these models. That said, I found this video to be very useful in identifying design features that I should be looking for when looking at various models. Just like your other videos I've seen, this was very helpful...and I really appreciate your practical approach to these reviews. Thank you.

  • @SWBStX
    @SWBStX 4 года назад +4

    I just got my first kayak and it's a yukon (got a deal used). I'm excited to see your review of it that you mentioned you'd be doing in the future.

  • @GeeDog1965
    @GeeDog1965 8 месяцев назад

    I'm picking up the lifetime mocan 10 on Friday. Thanks for the great review. The wheel in the keel sold me, against other comparable kayaks.

  • @RedDragon72q
    @RedDragon72q 4 года назад +1

    I have the original Tamarack non pro version and it is ok. I had to get used to it as it felt like I was going to flip all the time but it never did. We tried to flip it once in 2 feet of water but it proved a lot more difficult than it feels. The one thing I found was the seat on it being attracted to the boat with plastic push plugs leak like crazy. Even in the rain it gets water in the hall. Glued those suckers closed. The paddle holder isn't like the pro so no leaking but I did go through all the screws and sealed them. Now here is the problem with it, I paid 249 for it two years ago and now they are going for 299 and 349. If I were in the market today I would save up to go from the standard Tamarack to the Pro and just hit everything with sealant.

  • @jimnason9271
    @jimnason9271 2 года назад +1

    You were thorough in your review, Thank you for that. Given the number of garbage reviews on the internet yours is refreshing. You are clear and explain the differences clearly. Not sure I would buy either of these because I can afford a little more. But certainly the more expensive of these was clearly better. Even in this discussion you have pointed out the differences and helped me understand the differences and attributes of fishing kayaks. I have had a sit in 13 foot yak for several years. It worked well as kayak, but as I get older, it is getting hard to to in and out. My choice was and Old Town P160 , We will see how that works out. I will update.

  • @lachainem
    @lachainem 2 года назад

    Holy crap!! I looked away before the video started and I thought it was Kevin Costner speaking.
    Great video. Thanks for doing the comparison.

  • @KayakingBubblehead
    @KayakingBubblehead 4 года назад +2

    I'm going to be buying 2 of the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's for my oldest grandsons, the boat is plenty big enough for both boys and for what we will be using them for. Thank you for continuing to do these videos and reviews, I enjoy watching them.

  • @MajorPecker
    @MajorPecker Год назад

    Thank you for your analysis. I am not a fisherman, but have an entry level Lifetime sit on top, and looking to move to the next level of my kayaking journey. When determining how much I am willing to spend upgrading to the next kayak, depends on disposable income and how much time I can expect to be on the water. I am in Las Vegas, so my choices are Lake Mead, which is a little boring, or the river below the Hoover Dam, which I prefer. Right now I am only setup to run in the hotter months of summer, but contemplating getting a wetsuit and continuing my paddling in the fall and winter months. Unfortunately, there is no other kayaking options nearby without planning a long drive or long weekend somewhere else with my Kayak.

  • @glenerickson358
    @glenerickson358 3 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video. I learned a lot.

  • @codyk7552
    @codyk7552 4 года назад +5

    Feelfree all day. For $250 more you're getting something much higher quality that will easily last twice as long as the Lifetime. Being pre-plumbed for a rudder is a big plus, and the wheel in the keel is a game changer. I thought it was stupid gimmick when I saw it online, but I love it on my Lure 11.5. Hopefully they move away from their proprietary gear rails in the future.
    I wish Feelfree would change their Moken molds to use the transducer pod and accept their pedal drive. I feel like a Moken 12.5 with a pedal drive being offered at the $1500-$1600 price point would one of the best values in the industry. And a Moken 14 with the current 30 inch width and a pedal drive would be an offshore machine and a Hobie revo competitor.

  • @BDiHaze
    @BDiHaze 3 года назад

    Evening. I have been doing my attending as many kayak tour events as possible to get my bearing of what I would like most when I purchase and thought I was set on the Pungo 125 until having my hand at a sea kayak when the tour guide gave me a go at the Old Town Nantucket 149. I know they don't make these anymore but would like your insight to help me with that decision. So far I have enjoyed how I felt more sound in the Pungo, by not flipping it any of the times I went out, but the Old town I flipped over several times in until I was able to get my bearing learning the sea kayaks are WAY MORE sensitive with any movement of your legs of shifting of your body weight. But once I got it, I really enjoyed it. I liked how it felt faster and more nimble when dealing with getting in/out of Eddie's, lagoons and being more in the center of the mass of water we were kayaking in, but when we chilled and I got lost in my taking pictures I always felt like I was going to flip over again and it deterred me from taking pictures whenever I wanted to. I know we have some good waters here in the MD area and want to be able to do more than just the shallow stream waterways and hit the wider waterways between the Susquehanna or Annapolis waters.
    WIth the present Old Town lineup I am torn between the Sorrento 126, which reviews has given me pause since it doesn't have the option for a scag and they say it has trouble tracking when there is wind, and the Loon 126sk which does have come with the scag, and an anchor, but I am not really tripping on getting an angler kayak, but guess I can't complain if it does all I want it to do AND give me the ability to take a rod out when I go out with my buddies that ARE All About fishing when they're out.
    Or, just stick with the Pungo 126, that I can put a rudder on, if I so chose down the line. And I also know I can get a waterproof skirt for when I have evolved on the water to get in more choppy water and take a roll or two....
    So to that, your insight is greatly appreciated?

  • @dwrdcl
    @dwrdcl 4 года назад +12

    you should check out the perception outlaw 11.5 awesome budget fishing kayak for us bigger guys

    • @ormonddude
      @ormonddude 4 года назад

      Yes that's what ended up with and I love it

    • @stevenlusk1547
      @stevenlusk1547 4 года назад

      Yep. My second yak and I'm thrilled with it. Will probably be my last

    • @MTPatriot1787
      @MTPatriot1787 4 года назад

      I find that the qualifying factors for any consideration is if I can put all of my rods, gear and myself on the yak without capsizing. lol Many of these budget yaks have a really low weight limit and a person doesn't really consider how much gear ways when you start loading things on. Let alone another 245 lbs. --- I think that I could handle one without all of the bells and whistles, but it seems to go hand in hand between price and capacity.

  • @TheGoochinator1
    @TheGoochinator1 4 года назад +1

    Can't wait to see the Yukon review. It was all I could get because of COVID this summer. I still want a Big Fish 120, but I'll stick with the Yukon for one more year. Love the channel!

  • @tommyrehbein5306
    @tommyrehbein5306 5 месяцев назад

    My friend just bought the Moken 10 V2 this past spring and she loves it! I love it as well but bought a sportsman 120 cuz im a lil heavier......lol But bang for the dollar, when they are on sale for $699 - you're just not gonna beat it for quality of build and bang for buck. The purple camo really snaps!

  • @scubarojo
    @scubarojo 3 года назад

    I'm not a fisherman, so I got the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's at Walmart end of season last one sale, got a deal. Took it out and was impressed with the stability and at about 57 lb I can lift myself and slide in into our RV (I'll be getting a rack soon). And most of all the seat is very nice for me. Adjustable tilt too. Other kayaks I've tried, my back is killing me after an hour. May be the best feature of this boat...at least for me. Wish it had a wheel like the more expensive boat, but I'll build or buy a dolly for it soon. Nice job on the video.

  • @chrisstark442
    @chrisstark442 4 года назад

    My wife and I are getting into Kayaking.
    I started with an inflatable Intex and she started with an 8 foot Sun Dolphin. We are both ready to upgrade. My budget says go for the cheaper Kayak, but the features on the more expensive boat seems to be worth it based on the life of the boat.

  • @mcrew26
    @mcrew26 4 года назад +5

    So I live in Utah and there are several Lifetime stores and the manufacturing plant near me. If you can get to a lifetime store it is considerably cheaper, I just got a Yukon for 399.97 at the lifetime store. which Im waiting on your review cause there are no real good reviews out there for it, Lifetime is starting to get into rotomolded kayaks you can check out the Lifetime Emotion Stealth Pro Angler 118 very similar to the feel free in this review and nearly the same price. ** I don't know if this is breaking news but Lifetime is coming out with a pedal drive kayak, the employees got to see pictures and got some information about it, looks like they are really starting to get serious about fishing kayaks. I'm new to the Kayak scene mostly because of fishing but this is my favorite RUclips channel i bought a sevylor Colorado fishing kayak in May, the Yukon will be my 2nd. love this channel.

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  4 года назад +2

      Thanks Mark for the feedback and for watching the channel.

    • @Ozzypup1
      @Ozzypup1 4 года назад +2

      Yep I saw in another vid that Lifetime mentioned a peddle drive comming out. Ive got a yukon myself used it 2 summers now. Great boat for the $400 I paid for it.

  • @davidball8
    @davidball8 3 года назад +6

    Another great video Dan. You do so much for the sport and not afraid to show the box store stuff against the bigger name products. You were one of the main reasons I went with the feelfree two years ago and have had no regrets. Thanks again.

  • @RemayPesca
    @RemayPesca 4 года назад +3

    Very informative review for those looking to start in kayak fishing.

  • @alanfrye2706
    @alanfrye2706 4 года назад

    Feel free customer support makes this a no Brainer. Feel free every day all day. Loved mine for 5 years. Finally went all in with a 21' bay boat, but I miss my lure 13.5 every time I fill up the tank.

  • @ryanpaasch7464
    @ryanpaasch7464 4 года назад

    I have the Yukon lifetime. I fish for bass up north in Wisconsin above Hayward. It works well and paddles easy. Stable and easy to fish out of . Easy to anchor with paddle and cords on it. I can stand on it, but I am hot the best at it yet. I am 270 lbs. I have a better two seat height with snap in locks.
    I really like the headwaters info! Keep up the good work.

  • @honkerman74
    @honkerman74 4 года назад

    I have a 10 ft Old Town Vapor fishing kayak. I looked at cheaper options, but the Vapor is so much more sturdy, and seemed like a better made option. I've had it for I think five years and it's been fantastic. I'm glad I didn't go for something cheap.

  • @zachjachino2385
    @zachjachino2385 4 года назад +9

    Would love to see a review of the ascend 10t or hear your thoughts on the ascend line.

    • @brianchrusciel7822
      @brianchrusciel7822 3 года назад

      Or the 12t would be cool to see a review on

    • @wordhog61
      @wordhog61 3 года назад

      I dont think he does reviews anymore.

  • @joemartin6439
    @joemartin6439 3 года назад

    Old guy . Love fishing . Never owned a kayak. 6’3” 190 lbs $699 suite me . 30 % lost in buying power . Love your knowledge. Any help would be marvellous

  • @GoSTLBlues
    @GoSTLBlues 9 месяцев назад

    HEY THANKS, I just ordered my Feelfree moken 10 v2 today, let ya know your video is one that helped turn my eye to it. So yeah the video definitely helped me 👍

  • @mkanyuh
    @mkanyuh 4 года назад

    I think you nailed it!!! Comparisons like this are great....
    I have the moken V2...and it is worth it for the extra features...#1 High capacity - I am 6'4 270... zero problems handling my size...#2 That seat...you can go 8 hours and not even feel discomfort...#3 STABILITY it says 33"... I think its closer to 35"...its just does not tip...I have been sideways in current pinned to a rock...it happens...it just does..... and still doesn't tip #4 wheel in the keel - I thought it was silly until I used it...it is awesome #5 molded in handles...so easy to carry...so easy to tie down...#6 Weight - 65 pounds is easily transportable #7 Rudder ready - I will be putting a rudder on it...it does really well for a 10 footer...but there is some swing out of the rear at low speed....I really think lifetime does a great job...if I was a reasonably normal sized person and wanted to stay under $500 i wouldn't hesitate to get a lifetime. How about those feelfree colors...I cant imagine how they get those fantastic color blends using little pebbles of plastic and melting them together.

  • @bcarss1970
    @bcarss1970 4 года назад

    I bought my 12 year old son (105 lbs) a Tamarack 10 footer and myself (250 lbs) a Yukon 12 footer last Spring. We have been in lakes, rivers, creeks, canals here in PA and in the bay backwater at the Jersey shore. Seats are good. Get a orange throw float for underneath. You won't regret the purchase.

  • @gonzo2.0
    @gonzo2.0 3 года назад

    Great to see a review where the host doesn't try and come off as the authority on every feature. Very fair comparisons. It would come down to budget and how long you expect to own either kayak. We have a Perception Pescador10 and a Pelican Catch 100 with a rudder, both do all we need to fish lakes in N Georgia. Great site

  • @nickkeen6209
    @nickkeen6209 3 года назад

    Ive been in the market for kayaks for awhile now tired of bank fishing and making plans with buddies that have boats. Just found the feel free kayaks from your videos and more than likely thays what im going with the craftsmanship that goes into making them for the price is hard to beat. Plus the wheel in the keel is very nice as well and huge plus.

  • @jakew383
    @jakew383 4 года назад +2

    Looking forward to the Yukon review. I have a tamarack right now but am planning to upgrade in the spring

    • @mcrew26
      @mcrew26 4 года назад +1

      i was going to get the Tamarack pro 103 but decided to go a little bigger to the Yukon, I picked it up this morning it will be a while before I can get it on the water but Im stoked.

    • @CALIBEAR
      @CALIBEAR 4 года назад +1

      @@mcrew26 you'll love it. I added an anchor trolley, cup holder, fish finder, 12v power bank with usb, navigation lights and a trolling motor. The yukon is definitely not a high dollar kayak but it's worth it!

    • @Ozzypup1
      @Ozzypup1 4 года назад +1

      Ive got a yukon. Used it 2 summers now. Awsome boat. Grabbed it for $400 at the time. Did a few mods like better paddle holders, anchor trolly, depth finder. All in all great stable boat.

  • @angelamicay8748
    @angelamicay8748 3 года назад +2

    Good review. This helps a lot. Trying to pick out my first fishing kayak

  • @MrBob121582
    @MrBob121582 2 года назад

    7:50. If you unlock the seat clips and lean back you can access the tackle box storage.

  • @sflagg0817
    @sflagg0817 3 года назад

    Great video, my wife and I both went with Jackson Kilroy yes at about 1200 each we wanted piece of mind that we won't be replacing any time soon. I love mine for fishing, only down side they are a tad heavy at around 75 lbs each they are great though.

  • @Naturesoothesme25
    @Naturesoothesme25 3 года назад +1

    I have the tamarack and love it ! Awesome recreation kayak , very sturdy and won’t break the bank

  • @gregstabryla9945
    @gregstabryla9945 4 года назад +3

    Nice to see you back! Will have to forward this to a friend who's looking into kayaking. Have the 12.5 v2. Love it.Can't understand why people still look at my kayak as if they never saw a wheel on the keel. Amazing how many people don't do their homework. Thanks Dan!

  • @brushybillroberts2654
    @brushybillroberts2654 4 года назад

    You did a great job with this video. I'm a dedicated canoe guy. Seems everybody and their sister in law are buying kayaks these days. While i don't understand the attraction to the kayaks, compared to even a 12 foot fiberglass canoe, (My 12 footer weighs 40 pounds) It's good for those looking at kayaks to see comparisons like this one.
    That V2 weighs more than my 16 foot Sawyer, that can carry fishing and camping supplies and two coolers with two people.
    I think maybe the attraction is the learning curve to efficiently control a kayak is shorter than with a canoe.
    But again, great job on the video.

  • @johnturner5001
    @johnturner5001 7 месяцев назад +2

    It's 2024 and the Lifetime kayak is now priced at $679 with no changes to the design. The Feelfree Moken 10 v2 is still $699.

  • @jaygoings9933
    @jaygoings9933 4 года назад

    Can't wait for the review on the 11'6 Yukon you gave a glimpse of in this video. I've owned one for 2 seasons now and all around great boat for the $399 I got it for the new. Wheel is janky but I love the open platform for measuring and submitting photos in KBF tournaments. I'm looking at welding a riser to get the seat up more.

  • @joshuad.3466
    @joshuad.3466 4 года назад

    Great video Dan, I purchased the Moken 10 V2 for my son last spring and we couldn’t be happier, awesome boat for the money!

  • @AverageDadFishing
    @AverageDadFishing 4 года назад +3

    I was looking at both boats. I ended up with the feel free, because of the wheel and the better features.

    • @pharma37
      @pharma37 4 года назад

      I pay $1500 every 6 months for a kayak after I break them, and they don't have any of these comforts😢

    • @joecuillo5005
      @joecuillo5005 2 года назад +1

      @@pharma37 get a bonafied you prolly won't keep breaking them. Too much money to spend twice a year

    • @pharma37
      @pharma37 2 года назад

      @@joecuillo5005 I have a short video of how I use a kayak on my page. You'll soon realize why I break them.

    • @pharma37
      @pharma37 2 года назад

      @@joecuillo5005 Kayaks can be expensive. I currently own a little over 20 (1/3 are broke, and I use them for extra welding plastic if I have a minor crack I can patch). Each one is a bit different for various uses.

  • @dw4897
    @dw4897 Год назад

    I would wait for the more expensive one.
    Hoping to get my first kayak just before spring next year.

  • @ethanganse1519
    @ethanganse1519 4 года назад

    I just received my Feel Free Moken 10 V2. Had an Ascend 12T sold it because it was just getting to cumbersome to car top (I go kayaking a lot by myself). One of those situations where I thought I wanted/needed a 12ft then after having it a couple years came to the conclusion I didn’t lol Wheel in the keel is amazing for feel free. No more multiple trips to the boat launch to empty gear out then coming back for the yak. The basic moken 10 is good for me as I kayak/fish skinny water mostly. Love the quality of the plastics of feel free over the Ascend. Plus it’s just an amazing price for what you get really can’t beat it.

  • @just-dl
    @just-dl 3 года назад

    Can’t get excited about sit on top kayaks. But,I love your reviews.

  • @larryreid8562
    @larryreid8562 Год назад +78

    My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. ruclips.net/user/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!

  • @jonluis9088
    @jonluis9088 3 года назад

    To answer your question of which boat I would choose of these 2, it depends on how frequently I want to take it out and if I had help. I'm in my 60's so I have to think about things like ease of loading/unloading. The Lifetime is more basic but it is also a fair bit lighter which is easier to load/unload with my roof rack. I would probably choose this one if I were going out once a month or so. Some of the problems you point out are pretty easy and inexpensive to fix such as adding a flexible grommet to the paddle holder and maybe adding grips to the floor for standing up. I also have made my own trolley wheel to attach for rolling the boat to and from the water that is pretty lightweight, easy to attach and store on the boat. If I were a more frequent paddle fisherman, I might go with the other with more features. Honestly either one would be a decent choice.

  • @paulwescott3011
    @paulwescott3011 4 года назад +1

    I bought a Moken 10 V2 months ago and love it.

  • @ch33kz
    @ch33kz 4 года назад +4

    Looking forward to the review on the Lifetime Yukon. Also I like to know your opinion on the Vibe Sea 6host 110. Love the channel. ✌️

  • @dougwafzig1051
    @dougwafzig1051 3 года назад

    Bought the moken 10 in 2020 and love it nice size plenty of room. I'm 5' 11'' and 250 lbs. standing is doable but I wasn't real comfortable to stand and fish. Reaching the back was great because I could turn in the seat to easily reach my gear behind me. Packed full of camping gear last year and it was fine on the water but rides low so dragged on the shallows. Great boat in all, happy with my purchase from Mike's Hike and Bike in Richmond Ky.

  • @TwistedMetalVideos
    @TwistedMetalVideos 3 года назад

    Thxx for the review Dan. Both are cool. For me several benefits for the extra $$ long term on the Moken!
    Its a great looking craft as well. Nice sizable seat 2

  • @Chicitypo
    @Chicitypo 3 года назад +1

    Wish I would’ve seen this earlier but I already ordered the Tamarack Pro. It was a good deal though, $313 shipped.

    • @videojoe7
      @videojoe7 3 года назад +1

      Where did you buy the Pro?

  • @Jakecooks
    @Jakecooks 3 года назад

    I like the 649 one, I am looking to get a fishing kayak very soon.

  • @VTHokies1987
    @VTHokies1987 Год назад

    Awesome comparison video. Very much worth the view for newbies to the hobby.

  • @randystone4903
    @randystone4903 3 года назад

    I just got a used ATAK 12 by Wilderness Systems I'm anxious to get on the water. Inspired by Kayak Catfishing I'm getting tips on affordable modifications instead of really expensive store bought ones. The $2,200 electric trolling motor is not in my fishing budget when I can attach a regular trolling motor for a couple of hundred. I hope the built in wheel and keel showed will become an industry standard.

  • @krakhare7111
    @krakhare7111 3 года назад

    Just boat the moken 12.5 as my first kayak. It does what I expected it to do- get me out on the water, fishing comfortably.

  • @hungrydad7537
    @hungrydad7537 4 года назад +1

    Remember if you buy a lifetime and want to practice with it and then re-sale it, make sure to resell it before Walmart releases the new models! lol, you will never get your return on reselling a kayak but it is a great place to start to learn if you even like paddling or not. I have had essentially both and now know that I want a pedal drive for bass fishing tournaments and why. I have taken every word of Dan from headwaters advice. So those are both great options for starting learning and figuring it all out.🙂

    • @jonluis9088
      @jonluis9088 3 года назад

      When I buy a boat, I never expect to resell it for anywhere near the original price. I don't know of a single boater that does. Buying a boat is like puying a hole in the water that you fill with money.

  • @bodhi974
    @bodhi974 3 года назад

    I’m hunting around for a couple of kayaks. I have an inflatable now but want a couple hard shells. I’m sold on the moken just have to wait for bonus time. I, a couple hours away from Redding so may go there to purchase. Liking the videos.

  • @1745pacman
    @1745pacman 4 года назад +4

    I have had the Lifetime Tamarack now for 8 months used it at least ten times this summer. I love it! My first time kayaking and fishing. I got into the sport from watching your videos by the way!! Love it!! The Lifetime seat is super comfy.... The seals are good I don't have any water inside unless I open the front middle hatch when I caught a fish otherwise no leaks with the seals. The only thing is say the FF has over the Lifetime is the wheel and rudder which would be nice in the wind. The Lifetime I would imagine would paddle alot better than the FF I also plugged all my scuppers that helped alot because its a low boat. I would 100% recommend the Lifetime for a 1st angler!

  • @SalvadorFrieri
    @SalvadorFrieri 4 года назад +6

    I’d get the crescent ultra light.

  • @goonch7956
    @goonch7956 4 года назад +1

    I think the ascend d10 sit in kayak for 450 is a good deal, looks like a comfortable seat, I don't see many reviews, but the ones i do see, people like them.

    • @rudyramirez2827
      @rudyramirez2827 3 года назад

      I bought the lifetime tamarac 103 pro, an I love it. It tracks great. It's stable., seat is great.

  • @dougmiles6489
    @dougmiles6489 3 года назад

    Thank you for video on kakay fishing. I am looking forward get my first kakay this year. I like the green camoflodge

  • @swimstud10
    @swimstud10 4 года назад +1

    Love the video!! You should do one on the best kayaks to add a trolling motor/ motorize!

  • @bayarea5168
    @bayarea5168 4 года назад

    Stability, load capacity, price ($649 plus tax) and truck bed loadable is what I settled for in the Pelican Bass Raider 10E. I really feel that this little boat is like a pontoon kayak on steroids with the option to add an outboard motor and make all sorts of modifications.

  • @USMCdad470
    @USMCdad470 2 года назад

    Awesome review, more money seems to be the better. I'm just a little too heavy at 275lbs. Thanks for the info.

  • @jeffreyhopkins4157
    @jeffreyhopkins4157 3 года назад

    You did a terrific job in your comparison of these two crafts. Me, I would definitely purchase the FeelFree over the Tamarack Pro. For the difference in price, which is only a couple of hundred dollars, you get the added security of stability and drainage. You also have the foundation for a rudder system. Standing up needs to have secure confidence with the rider, which I don't believe you will have with the Pro. The Pro to me is a bit too cheesy for my liking.
    I think for a Kayak that does not have a pedal system, the FeelFree gives you a great bang for your buck. A few years ago I purchased a Field & Stream Talon for very close to the same price (about $50 less) which I have since sold. It had stability problems, and I got sick and tired of getting wet. If it was choppy in the Bay, it would load up with water. Or if you leaned a bit too far to either side, you were going for a roll. I rolled it 3 or 4 times so I’m really into stability.
    Thank you for a great comparison job. - Jeffeo

  • @robjurbala84
    @robjurbala84 4 года назад +1

    Honest reviews, even if you don't sell the kayak. Honesty IS the best policy. 👍👍

  • @egon3072
    @egon3072 4 года назад +8

    Damn!! I wish this video was our 9 months ago!! I woulda bought the more expensive one. But I enjoy my lifetime!! Just that those extras are nice!!

  • @charlesdjones1
    @charlesdjones1 2 года назад

    After seeing these 2, I definitely feel good about getting the Pelican Catch 100, it's been great so far.

  • @albert2araujo
    @albert2araujo 2 года назад

    Great video again man ! I am learning so much about Kayaks. Once again thank you! Very much appreciated.

  • @iowamatt2519
    @iowamatt2519 4 года назад

    U must have a good Editor making these videos. I/ve had a moken 10 for years and it handle my 275 and gear as good as any boat I've owned. It's also great in class 1 and 2 rivers.

  • @jasonwall3591
    @jasonwall3591 4 года назад +3

    Brilliant video bro!...could not get tom hanks out of my head though 🤣

    • @Patrick-it8nk
      @Patrick-it8nk 3 года назад +1

      Dude I was JUST about to leave a comment along the lines of that. I need this man to do some regular Tom Hanks impressions!

  • @terribleatfishing
    @terribleatfishing 4 года назад

    I went with the Moken 12.5 V2, because I am fat! 6’ 280lbs. I also wanted the sonar pod. I have terrible equilibrium so I put a yakgear stabilizer on my boat. Love feel free, tough, tough, tough! Wanted and needed a larger cargo hold for kayak camping. Moken paddles so easy, it takes off with little effort and I am a new kayaker. I would recommend going to an independent dealer and make sure you get a kayak that fits you.

    • @HeadwatersKayak
      @HeadwatersKayak  4 года назад +1

      Great feedback and advice. If you can sit in one or try one your $$ ahead.

  • @larrynorrisjr9137
    @larrynorrisjr9137 4 года назад

    I love your reviews!! I have yet to get a kayak but your reviews are an absolute help!! Of the two here I would go with the Moken. But for just a hundred or so more I will probably go for the Moken 12.5. More speed, more stability and more boat.

  • @largemouthbassman5628
    @largemouthbassman5628 3 года назад

    Feel free kayaks are solid. I bought one long time ago and love it.

  • @speedracer87
    @speedracer87 Год назад

    Fantastic breakdown thank you. I would go for the one at $649. Looks like much better quality

  • @yakketyyak954
    @yakketyyak954 2 года назад

    I think the bungee under the seat on the Tamarack is for two 3500 Plano trays. They’re only 1 inch thick.

  • @skoli55
    @skoli55 4 года назад

    Great vid. I have lifetime as my secondary kayak. It's great for a quick trip to weedy pond or small river. Lightweight is a big plus. Moken seems like much more of the kayak but not nearly enough for your main fishing vessel.

  • @petersuddath6477
    @petersuddath6477 4 года назад +1

    Well done Dan! I found it to be really helpful.

  • @danielfischer1811
    @danielfischer1811 3 года назад

    Wow..... You just stopped me from buying the Tamarack!
    The Moken.... Hands down!... Thks Dan

  • @MrOffshore
    @MrOffshore 4 года назад

    Great review so new buyers can learn what they get for their money. Hands down, I believe you’re better off saving up the additional $250 and buying the much higher quality Feel Free...it will out perform at every level and because it’s designed, engineered and built better, it will last longer, particularly under hard use.
    The extra payload alone is worth the $250. If you actually touch and feel both these kayaks, you will immediately feel the difference...the Feel Free is far more robust and the hull is much stiffer with thicker material built to last. The higher seating position on the Feel Free is also a game changer when it comes to sitting for extended time.
    The budge kayaks have come a long way...but so have the premium brands. When it comes to kayaks, you truly get what you pay for...so save a little longer and I believe you’ll be a lot happier in the long run.
    Great review!! Thanks!!

  • @Apple4life27
    @Apple4life27 3 года назад

    I bought the lifetime kayak just to give fishing from a kayak a try and see if it’s something I would do. It worked and realized that I enjoy fishing from kayaks. Plan to pass this down to my 10 year old son. I’ve been looking at the Feelfree lure 13.5. Mostly due to the seat and size for storage plus weight that it can hold. I recently went to Cabela’s and seen one of the Ascend 133x. I know it’s a new model and just a little different than most kayaks. My question, is have you had a chance to look at the kayak and if so how does it stack up against the Feelfree? It’s more designed to be used with a trolling motor over a pedal drive. Which makes no difference to me honestly. Thanks!

  • @truckerdavesroadtoglory636
    @truckerdavesroadtoglory636 4 года назад

    Dan. Can you tell me about the front of the boat. It looks like green one has a higher nose than the lifetime. Does that mean less water will come into the front of the boat, or does the solid handle allow water to come up through the back of the handle and into the boat? Which one takes on less water from the front?

  • @planetxmetal
    @planetxmetal 3 года назад

    I have a Perception Pescador Pro 100. Decent fishing kayak...but it certainly lacks a lot of the creature comforts of more expensive boats. Yes, it has a cup holder. Yes it has front and rear storage compartments but they're all just barely out of reach to be comfortable. You can't stand and fish on it. You don't have stowage or any other compartments within reach. There's a huge price difference in what's "workable" vs what's intuitive designed and comfortable.

  • @jpem86
    @jpem86 3 года назад

    I wonder which would be better for car top transportation? Seems like the Tamarack is a little more flat, still a tough call on which one to go with. I'm hopefully getting into a new kayak this spring. Thanks for the content!