I have had both but don't any longer have either. The moken 10.5 is head and shoulders above the lifetime. The lifetime is probably a better boat for a youth and really paddles better than the moken. The moken is really stable but a barge and spins when you quit paddling. It needs the rudder to live with it. I don't think of the lifetime as a fishing yak its more of a rec yak that you can fish from. It will go over quick when you reach back if you arent paying attention. No go with a bunch of expensive tackle and rods. My lifetime went back because it showed up with two left foot rests and screws missing. Couldn't get parts from lifetime. They said they were shut down at the time because of covid. The moken was warrantied because it cracked behind the scuppers under the seat. Now I have a Moken 12.5 v2 and I am a happy camper. Skip both of these and get the moken 12.5. It is really worth the money. You can save on the rudder if you went with the 12.5.
@Douglas Smith The moken can have the seat in a high or low position. The moken is quite a bit wider at the seat area. It's pretty stable to stand up in. The extra volume also makes it a really dry ride. The extra width also makes it paddle slower and not glide so well.
I absolutely love how you talk about and show the hulls of the kayaks you review so much of the time. So many "reviews" out there just go through the features and don't talk about the actual build and design of the yaks. Thank you!
Dan...I’m still shopping, but have watched now probably every one of your videos. I get the stink eye from my wife when I hint around I’d like to get a kayak, because I’m almost 70, retired, and so not much extra money for yet another hobby (I do have quite a few). I think my best bet...for me...for now...will be the Tamarack (non-Pro). I just want to fish ponds, backwaters, and slow rivers. Thanks so much for your thoughtful and insightful reviews!
I went kayaking for the first time in my life and I loved it. If I was amazed with those cheap rental ones, I can’t imagine all the fun with one of these. Def will buy one soon, following you now. great comparison between these two!!
Your videos got me into kayaking this year. Finding a kayak wasn’t the easiest though due to all going on in the world. Now that I know love the hobby I’m looking to upgrade into the Feelfree. Appreciate your videos and reviews!
I'm in a similar boat. Got into Kayaking in 2020 and Headwaters is a part of my inspiration. Started in a lifetime and picked up a Moken 14 at the end of this last summer. I'm impressed. I wanted the longer boat for the ocean around here in SE Alaska. You can't go wrong with the Feelfree Moken. The 12.5v2 is arguably the best deal on the water dollar for how much boat you get. Comfort is a huge factor in how enjoyable a day on the water is.
My advice is whatever kit you can afford, look after it, keep it clean and don't abuse it. It will last much longer. Always get the best paddle you can, cheaper ones tend to have less longevity.
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. ruclips.net/user/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
You do a really great job of going over the full boat on your walkthroughs; I just purchased a Moken 10 v2 here in Ohio and your video ( and others) helped me make my decision....your work beyond being a seller but a reviewer and content creator as well is greatly appreciated...
Excellent review. Similar boats, but one is built down to a price and the other is built up to a standard. Nothing wrong with that, both seem fairly priced. So you get what you pay for with either one. I have met a lot of kayakers who were happy with their first “budget” boat, but are saving for a better one. I’m glad wife and I were able to skip that step and start with Eddyline. Life is short.
My friend just bought the Moken 10 V2 this past spring and she loves it! I love it as well but bought a sportsman 120 cuz im a lil heavier......lol But bang for the dollar, when they are on sale for $699 - you're just not gonna beat it for quality of build and bang for buck. The purple camo really snaps!
Dan when i was in Highschool my best friend was in shop for a semester. They built a wood frame Kayak with a treated cloth skin. It looked a lot like the Kayaks used by the Deneé in the extreme north. He took that boat out on the ocean salmon fishing as well as on lakes. It was an incredible little craft!
I'm 6ft 250lbs and I love my Moken 10v2, my first kayak. I think its a great boat for the money especially when paired with a Bending Branches Angler Pro Plus paddle.
Have the moken 12.5 , don't weigh that much but wouldn't have it any other way. Same paddle, love it. I'm sure both will last my lifetime. ( unless I get lazy, can still put a trolling motor where my sonar pod is)) don't see that happening.
I think you nailed it!!! Comparisons like this are great.... I have the moken V2...and it is worth it for the extra features...#1 High capacity - I am 6'4 270... zero problems handling my size...#2 That seat...you can go 8 hours and not even feel discomfort...#3 STABILITY it says 33"... I think its closer to 35"...its just does not tip...I have been sideways in current pinned to a rock...it happens...it just does..... and still doesn't tip #4 wheel in the keel - I thought it was silly until I used it...it is awesome #5 molded in handles...so easy to carry...so easy to tie down...#6 Weight - 65 pounds is easily transportable #7 Rudder ready - I will be putting a rudder on it...it does really well for a 10 footer...but there is some swing out of the rear at low speed....I really think lifetime does a great job...if I was a reasonably normal sized person and wanted to stay under $500 i wouldn't hesitate to get a lifetime. How about those feelfree colors...I cant imagine how they get those fantastic color blends using little pebbles of plastic and melting them together.
The question then is how much more would a rudder kit add to the cost? I bet it's several hundred dollars because of the parst involved which would bring it out of the budget yak range. No?
Feel free customer support makes this a no Brainer. Feel free every day all day. Loved mine for 5 years. Finally went all in with a 21' bay boat, but I miss my lure 13.5 every time I fill up the tank.
I bought my 12 year old son (105 lbs) a Tamarack 10 footer and myself (250 lbs) a Yukon 12 footer last Spring. We have been in lakes, rivers, creeks, canals here in PA and in the bay backwater at the Jersey shore. Seats are good. Get a orange throw float for underneath. You won't regret the purchase.
I have the original Tamarack non pro version and it is ok. I had to get used to it as it felt like I was going to flip all the time but it never did. We tried to flip it once in 2 feet of water but it proved a lot more difficult than it feels. The one thing I found was the seat on it being attracted to the boat with plastic push plugs leak like crazy. Even in the rain it gets water in the hall. Glued those suckers closed. The paddle holder isn't like the pro so no leaking but I did go through all the screws and sealed them. Now here is the problem with it, I paid 249 for it two years ago and now they are going for 299 and 349. If I were in the market today I would save up to go from the standard Tamarack to the Pro and just hit everything with sealant.
You were thorough in your review, Thank you for that. Given the number of garbage reviews on the internet yours is refreshing. You are clear and explain the differences clearly. Not sure I would buy either of these because I can afford a little more. But certainly the more expensive of these was clearly better. Even in this discussion you have pointed out the differences and helped me understand the differences and attributes of fishing kayaks. I have had a sit in 13 foot yak for several years. It worked well as kayak, but as I get older, it is getting hard to to in and out. My choice was and Old Town P160 , We will see how that works out. I will update.
I have the Yukon lifetime. I fish for bass up north in Wisconsin above Hayward. It works well and paddles easy. Stable and easy to fish out of . Easy to anchor with paddle and cords on it. I can stand on it, but I am hot the best at it yet. I am 270 lbs. I have a better two seat height with snap in locks. I really like the headwaters info! Keep up the good work.
Thank you for your analysis. I am not a fisherman, but have an entry level Lifetime sit on top, and looking to move to the next level of my kayaking journey. When determining how much I am willing to spend upgrading to the next kayak, depends on disposable income and how much time I can expect to be on the water. I am in Las Vegas, so my choices are Lake Mead, which is a little boring, or the river below the Hoover Dam, which I prefer. Right now I am only setup to run in the hotter months of summer, but contemplating getting a wetsuit and continuing my paddling in the fall and winter months. Unfortunately, there is no other kayaking options nearby without planning a long drive or long weekend somewhere else with my Kayak.
I have a V1 Moken 12.5. paid 600$ for it brand new when the V2's came out. I must say, the wheel in the keel that Feelfree puts on their kayaks has made me a Feelfree fan for life.
Great video, my wife and I both went with Jackson Kilroy yes at about 1200 each we wanted piece of mind that we won't be replacing any time soon. I love mine for fishing, only down side they are a tad heavy at around 75 lbs each they are great though.
Feelfree all day. For $250 more you're getting something much higher quality that will easily last twice as long as the Lifetime. Being pre-plumbed for a rudder is a big plus, and the wheel in the keel is a game changer. I thought it was stupid gimmick when I saw it online, but I love it on my Lure 11.5. Hopefully they move away from their proprietary gear rails in the future. I wish Feelfree would change their Moken molds to use the transducer pod and accept their pedal drive. I feel like a Moken 12.5 with a pedal drive being offered at the $1500-$1600 price point would one of the best values in the industry. And a Moken 14 with the current 30 inch width and a pedal drive would be an offshore machine and a Hobie revo competitor.
Bought two moken 10s. 6 years ago new. The one guy is right. They are barges. But I'm 6ft 5in tall and pushing 265 lbs. I load it with camping gear as does my wife with hers. Tomales bay bioluminescent every year. They may be wide and slow but I have no worries at all even in water that gets a little rough. They are a solid boat. Would recommend for a larger person, especially a beginner. Have beat the crap out of that thing and people think still that I just bought it. Holds its color well and the camo hides the scratches. Spend the extra money IF you cand afford it. Well worth it
To answer your question of which boat I would choose of these 2, it depends on how frequently I want to take it out and if I had help. I'm in my 60's so I have to think about things like ease of loading/unloading. The Lifetime is more basic but it is also a fair bit lighter which is easier to load/unload with my roof rack. I would probably choose this one if I were going out once a month or so. Some of the problems you point out are pretty easy and inexpensive to fix such as adding a flexible grommet to the paddle holder and maybe adding grips to the floor for standing up. I also have made my own trolley wheel to attach for rolling the boat to and from the water that is pretty lightweight, easy to attach and store on the boat. If I were a more frequent paddle fisherman, I might go with the other with more features. Honestly either one would be a decent choice.
Evening. I have been doing my attending as many kayak tour events as possible to get my bearing of what I would like most when I purchase and thought I was set on the Pungo 125 until having my hand at a sea kayak when the tour guide gave me a go at the Old Town Nantucket 149. I know they don't make these anymore but would like your insight to help me with that decision. So far I have enjoyed how I felt more sound in the Pungo, by not flipping it any of the times I went out, but the Old town I flipped over several times in until I was able to get my bearing learning the sea kayaks are WAY MORE sensitive with any movement of your legs of shifting of your body weight. But once I got it, I really enjoyed it. I liked how it felt faster and more nimble when dealing with getting in/out of Eddie's, lagoons and being more in the center of the mass of water we were kayaking in, but when we chilled and I got lost in my taking pictures I always felt like I was going to flip over again and it deterred me from taking pictures whenever I wanted to. I know we have some good waters here in the MD area and want to be able to do more than just the shallow stream waterways and hit the wider waterways between the Susquehanna or Annapolis waters. WIth the present Old Town lineup I am torn between the Sorrento 126, which reviews has given me pause since it doesn't have the option for a scag and they say it has trouble tracking when there is wind, and the Loon 126sk which does have come with the scag, and an anchor, but I am not really tripping on getting an angler kayak, but guess I can't complain if it does all I want it to do AND give me the ability to take a rod out when I go out with my buddies that ARE All About fishing when they're out. Or, just stick with the Pungo 126, that I can put a rudder on, if I so chose down the line. And I also know I can get a waterproof skirt for when I have evolved on the water to get in more choppy water and take a roll or two.... So to that, your insight is greatly appreciated?
HEY THANKS, I just ordered my Feelfree moken 10 v2 today, let ya know your video is one that helped turn my eye to it. So yeah the video definitely helped me 👍
Bought the moken 10 in 2020 and love it nice size plenty of room. I'm 5' 11'' and 250 lbs. standing is doable but I wasn't real comfortable to stand and fish. Reaching the back was great because I could turn in the seat to easily reach my gear behind me. Packed full of camping gear last year and it was fine on the water but rides low so dragged on the shallows. Great boat in all, happy with my purchase from Mike's Hike and Bike in Richmond Ky.
I'm not a fisherman, so I got the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's at Walmart end of season last one sale, got a deal. Took it out and was impressed with the stability and at about 57 lb I can lift myself and slide in into our RV (I'll be getting a rack soon). And most of all the seat is very nice for me. Adjustable tilt too. Other kayaks I've tried, my back is killing me after an hour. May be the best feature of this boat...at least for me. Wish it had a wheel like the more expensive boat, but I'll build or buy a dolly for it soon. Nice job on the video.
So I live in Utah and there are several Lifetime stores and the manufacturing plant near me. If you can get to a lifetime store it is considerably cheaper, I just got a Yukon for 399.97 at the lifetime store. which Im waiting on your review cause there are no real good reviews out there for it, Lifetime is starting to get into rotomolded kayaks you can check out the Lifetime Emotion Stealth Pro Angler 118 very similar to the feel free in this review and nearly the same price. ** I don't know if this is breaking news but Lifetime is coming out with a pedal drive kayak, the employees got to see pictures and got some information about it, looks like they are really starting to get serious about fishing kayaks. I'm new to the Kayak scene mostly because of fishing but this is my favorite RUclips channel i bought a sevylor Colorado fishing kayak in May, the Yukon will be my 2nd. love this channel.
Yep I saw in another vid that Lifetime mentioned a peddle drive comming out. Ive got a yukon myself used it 2 summers now. Great boat for the $400 I paid for it.
Ive been in the market for kayaks for awhile now tired of bank fishing and making plans with buddies that have boats. Just found the feel free kayaks from your videos and more than likely thays what im going with the craftsmanship that goes into making them for the price is hard to beat. Plus the wheel in the keel is very nice as well and huge plus.
You did a great job with this video. I'm a dedicated canoe guy. Seems everybody and their sister in law are buying kayaks these days. While i don't understand the attraction to the kayaks, compared to even a 12 foot fiberglass canoe, (My 12 footer weighs 40 pounds) It's good for those looking at kayaks to see comparisons like this one. That V2 weighs more than my 16 foot Sawyer, that can carry fishing and camping supplies and two coolers with two people. I think maybe the attraction is the learning curve to efficiently control a kayak is shorter than with a canoe. But again, great job on the video.
You did a terrific job in your comparison of these two crafts. Me, I would definitely purchase the FeelFree over the Tamarack Pro. For the difference in price, which is only a couple of hundred dollars, you get the added security of stability and drainage. You also have the foundation for a rudder system. Standing up needs to have secure confidence with the rider, which I don't believe you will have with the Pro. The Pro to me is a bit too cheesy for my liking. I think for a Kayak that does not have a pedal system, the FeelFree gives you a great bang for your buck. A few years ago I purchased a Field & Stream Talon for very close to the same price (about $50 less) which I have since sold. It had stability problems, and I got sick and tired of getting wet. If it was choppy in the Bay, it would load up with water. Or if you leaned a bit too far to either side, you were going for a roll. I rolled it 3 or 4 times so I’m really into stability. Thank you for a great comparison job. - Jeffeo
I'm going to be buying 2 of the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's for my oldest grandsons, the boat is plenty big enough for both boys and for what we will be using them for. Thank you for continuing to do these videos and reviews, I enjoy watching them.
I’m hunting around for a couple of kayaks. I have an inflatable now but want a couple hard shells. I’m sold on the moken just have to wait for bonus time. I, a couple hours away from Redding so may go there to purchase. Liking the videos.
Aloha Dan. I'm in the market for a used kayak, but not either of these models. That said, I found this video to be very useful in identifying design features that I should be looking for when looking at various models. Just like your other videos I've seen, this was very helpful...and I really appreciate your practical approach to these reviews. Thank you.
My wife and I are getting into Kayaking. I started with an inflatable Intex and she started with an 8 foot Sun Dolphin. We are both ready to upgrade. My budget says go for the cheaper Kayak, but the features on the more expensive boat seems to be worth it based on the life of the boat.
Old guy . Love fishing . Never owned a kayak. 6’3” 190 lbs $699 suite me . 30 % lost in buying power . Love your knowledge. Any help would be marvellous
I upgraded from a cheap princess auto buffer/polisher to the dewalt after breaking the handle off. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfzbDkCRyv3CFXnLZI4APZtRRuG2uRmP2 The dewalt is beyond rugged! It's super comfortable to use and the "D" handle has many options for holding onto it if you are working in weird positions. The electronic speed control is precise and it has a nice variable speed trigger for slow ramp up.I have upgraded to the 3m quick change setup and been using it for 3 years for reconditioning gel coat on boats. It's hard work for any machine and I've had no issues. If you need a machine that can put in serious work, this is the one you want. If you want to light buffing, on your car, this is not the machine for you. It's easy to control but you can get yourself in trouble very quickly if you don't know what you are doing.
Another great video Dan. You do so much for the sport and not afraid to show the box store stuff against the bigger name products. You were one of the main reasons I went with the feelfree two years ago and have had no regrets. Thanks again.
I just got a used ATAK 12 by Wilderness Systems I'm anxious to get on the water. Inspired by Kayak Catfishing I'm getting tips on affordable modifications instead of really expensive store bought ones. The $2,200 electric trolling motor is not in my fishing budget when I can attach a regular trolling motor for a couple of hundred. I hope the built in wheel and keel showed will become an industry standard.
Nice to see you back! Will have to forward this to a friend who's looking into kayaking. Have the 12.5 v2. Love it.Can't understand why people still look at my kayak as if they never saw a wheel on the keel. Amazing how many people don't do their homework. Thanks Dan!
Thxx for the review Dan. Both are cool. For me several benefits for the extra $$ long term on the Moken! Its a great looking craft as well. Nice sizable seat 2
I wouldn't buy either as both will track miserably. if this is your budget, however, the feel free would be the better choice. I have a feel free lure 13.5 and it's stellar. I started fishing on crappy kayaks, like most of us, and they will do until something better comes along. good review.
I have a Perception Pescador Pro 100. Decent fishing kayak...but it certainly lacks a lot of the creature comforts of more expensive boats. Yes, it has a cup holder. Yes it has front and rear storage compartments but they're all just barely out of reach to be comfortable. You can't stand and fish on it. You don't have stowage or any other compartments within reach. There's a huge price difference in what's "workable" vs what's intuitive designed and comfortable.
I just received my Feel Free Moken 10 V2. Had an Ascend 12T sold it because it was just getting to cumbersome to car top (I go kayaking a lot by myself). One of those situations where I thought I wanted/needed a 12ft then after having it a couple years came to the conclusion I didn’t lol Wheel in the keel is amazing for feel free. No more multiple trips to the boat launch to empty gear out then coming back for the yak. The basic moken 10 is good for me as I kayak/fish skinny water mostly. Love the quality of the plastics of feel free over the Ascend. Plus it’s just an amazing price for what you get really can’t beat it.
I find that the qualifying factors for any consideration is if I can put all of my rods, gear and myself on the yak without capsizing. lol Many of these budget yaks have a really low weight limit and a person doesn't really consider how much gear ways when you start loading things on. Let alone another 245 lbs. --- I think that I could handle one without all of the bells and whistles, but it seems to go hand in hand between price and capacity.
Great review so new buyers can learn what they get for their money. Hands down, I believe you’re better off saving up the additional $250 and buying the much higher quality Feel Free...it will out perform at every level and because it’s designed, engineered and built better, it will last longer, particularly under hard use. The extra payload alone is worth the $250. If you actually touch and feel both these kayaks, you will immediately feel the difference...the Feel Free is far more robust and the hull is much stiffer with thicker material built to last. The higher seating position on the Feel Free is also a game changer when it comes to sitting for extended time. The budge kayaks have come a long way...but so have the premium brands. When it comes to kayaks, you truly get what you pay for...so save a little longer and I believe you’ll be a lot happier in the long run. Great review!! Thanks!!
Can't wait to see the Yukon review. It was all I could get because of COVID this summer. I still want a Big Fish 120, but I'll stick with the Yukon for one more year. Love the channel!
7:39 Seats are a total dealmaker/breaker. it's the second thing I look for after length. Anything over ten feet is too big for a lot of the water I fish but If I feel like I've been in a car crash after 8 hours in the boat dat no goot.
I think the ascend d10 sit in kayak for 450 is a good deal, looks like a comfortable seat, I don't see many reviews, but the ones i do see, people like them.
I have a 10 ft Old Town Vapor fishing kayak. I looked at cheaper options, but the Vapor is so much more sturdy, and seemed like a better made option. I've had it for I think five years and it's been fantastic. I'm glad I didn't go for something cheap.
Can't wait for the review on the 11'6 Yukon you gave a glimpse of in this video. I've owned one for 2 seasons now and all around great boat for the $399 I got it for the new. Wheel is janky but I love the open platform for measuring and submitting photos in KBF tournaments. I'm looking at welding a riser to get the seat up more.
i was going to get the Tamarack pro 103 but decided to go a little bigger to the Yukon, I picked it up this morning it will be a while before I can get it on the water but Im stoked.
@@mcrew26 you'll love it. I added an anchor trolley, cup holder, fish finder, 12v power bank with usb, navigation lights and a trolling motor. The yukon is definitely not a high dollar kayak but it's worth it!
Ive got a yukon. Used it 2 summers now. Awsome boat. Grabbed it for $400 at the time. Did a few mods like better paddle holders, anchor trolly, depth finder. All in all great stable boat.
Great to see a review where the host doesn't try and come off as the authority on every feature. Very fair comparisons. It would come down to budget and how long you expect to own either kayak. We have a Perception Pescador10 and a Pelican Catch 100 with a rudder, both do all we need to fish lakes in N Georgia. Great site
I have a lifetime Tioga and I’ve had expensive kayaks and I love my new Tioga ..!! For the price it’s very nice and fast on water has great balance I tried flipping it by rivking it hard and literally very hard to flip it.!
Dan. Can you tell me about the front of the boat. It looks like green one has a higher nose than the lifetime. Does that mean less water will come into the front of the boat, or does the solid handle allow water to come up through the back of the handle and into the boat? Which one takes on less water from the front?
I have had the Lifetime Tamarack now for 8 months used it at least ten times this summer. I love it! My first time kayaking and fishing. I got into the sport from watching your videos by the way!! Love it!! The Lifetime seat is super comfy.... The seals are good I don't have any water inside unless I open the front middle hatch when I caught a fish otherwise no leaks with the seals. The only thing is say the FF has over the Lifetime is the wheel and rudder which would be nice in the wind. The Lifetime I would imagine would paddle alot better than the FF I also plugged all my scuppers that helped alot because its a low boat. I would 100% recommend the Lifetime for a 1st angler!
At this point for me it really depends on stability. If/when I get another kayak really depends on if I can find something relatively easy to stand on. I like to spend a fairly long time on the water and it doesn't matter how good the seat is sooner or later I'd like the option to stand for a while. My current lifetime tamarak is a little older/different than that one, but I certainly wouldn't attempt to stand in it. The elevated seat option on the other one looks like it might make that process a bit easier.
@@brqxton8974 Wouldn’t have the storage and I’d have the opposite problem of not having an easy way to sit. What it really boils down to is I’m gonna have to upsize or maybe settle for a John boat.
@@jongahimer5338 fair points, if you go out regularly enough and have the budget for it, I think a jon boat would be the best option for standing stability and plus you’ll never fit as much stuff on a yak as you can in a boat(safely)
Good review of both boats. Much more on the higher priced model. If you get out more, probably worth the extra 300 dollars. Looks like it is built much better.
Remember if you buy a lifetime and want to practice with it and then re-sale it, make sure to resell it before Walmart releases the new models! lol, you will never get your return on reselling a kayak but it is a great place to start to learn if you even like paddling or not. I have had essentially both and now know that I want a pedal drive for bass fishing tournaments and why. I have taken every word of Dan from headwaters advice. So those are both great options for starting learning and figuring it all out.🙂
When I buy a boat, I never expect to resell it for anywhere near the original price. I don't know of a single boater that does. Buying a boat is like puying a hole in the water that you fill with money.
Where do you shop? The tamarack pro is $399.99 at Dicks and most other places, $380 a tractor supply co and I’m seeing the molten selling for $599-$699. The prices are the same or less than they were when this was filmed…
To your question in your description asking if it's worth the extra $250..... it all depends on your planned use. My kayak's are for just relaxing, padding around, and light fishing. My $230 Pelican 10ft boat only weighs 43lbs, does exactly what I wanted it for. So for me personally, No... not worth the extra cash.. I spent a little extra for a good Werner paddle($114). So for under $400 in total, I have a lightweight rig, and I have a blast. All those extras are not needed for myself personally.
Thanks for another excellent review! One of the things I love love love about this and similar videos is that it shows me things to look for what comparing kayaks. In that way, your video goes well beyond these two particular kayaks. You are teaching us to be observant kayak consumers. Well done! Thank you!
I went with the Moken 12.5 V2, because I am fat! 6’ 280lbs. I also wanted the sonar pod. I have terrible equilibrium so I put a yakgear stabilizer on my boat. Love feel free, tough, tough, tough! Wanted and needed a larger cargo hold for kayak camping. Moken paddles so easy, it takes off with little effort and I am a new kayaker. I would recommend going to an independent dealer and make sure you get a kayak that fits you.
I have had both but don't any longer have either. The moken 10.5 is head and shoulders above the lifetime. The lifetime is probably a better boat for a youth and really paddles better than the moken. The moken is really stable but a barge and spins when you quit paddling. It needs the rudder to live with it. I don't think of the lifetime as a fishing yak its more of a rec yak that you can fish from. It will go over quick when you reach back if you arent paying attention. No go with a bunch of expensive tackle and rods.
My lifetime went back because it showed up with two left foot rests and screws missing. Couldn't get parts from lifetime. They said they were shut down at the time because of covid. The moken was warrantied because it cracked behind the scuppers under the seat. Now I have a Moken 12.5 v2 and I am a happy camper. Skip both of these and get the moken 12.5. It is really worth the money. You can save on the rudder if you went with the 12.5.
Great feedback. I agree for not a lot more $ the Moken 12.5 paddles circles around the 10.
@Douglas Smith The moken can have the seat in a high or low position. The moken is quite a bit wider at the seat area. It's pretty stable to stand up in. The extra volume also makes it a really dry ride. The extra width also makes it paddle slower and not glide so well.
Maybe u could throw the agenda 10.5 in the mix
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Went with the moken 12.5 from the get go. Love it.
I absolutely love how you talk about and show the hulls of the kayaks you review so much of the time. So many "reviews" out there just go through the features and don't talk about the actual build and design of the yaks. Thank you!
It's also great to get the opinion from an experienced paddler for sure. I bet he paddles a hundred miles a month.
Dan...I’m still shopping, but have watched now probably every one of your videos. I get the stink eye from my wife when I hint around I’d like to get a kayak, because I’m almost 70, retired, and so not much extra money for yet another hobby (I do have quite a few). I think my best bet...for me...for now...will be the Tamarack (non-Pro). I just want to fish ponds, backwaters, and slow rivers. Thanks so much for your thoughtful and insightful reviews!
I went kayaking for the first time in my life and I loved it. If I was amazed with those cheap rental ones, I can’t imagine all the fun with one of these. Def will buy one soon, following you now. great comparison between these two!!
You are missed, the best Kayak reviews on RUclips
Your videos got me into kayaking this year. Finding a kayak wasn’t the easiest though due to all going on in the world. Now that I know love the hobby I’m looking to upgrade into the Feelfree. Appreciate your videos and reviews!
Awesome. Welcome to the sport and thanks for watching.
I'm in a similar boat. Got into Kayaking in 2020 and Headwaters is a part of my inspiration. Started in a lifetime and picked up a Moken 14 at the end of this last summer. I'm impressed. I wanted the longer boat for the ocean around here in SE Alaska. You can't go wrong with the Feelfree Moken. The 12.5v2 is arguably the best deal on the water dollar for how much boat you get. Comfort is a huge factor in how enjoyable a day on the water is.
My advice is whatever kit you can afford, look after it, keep it clean and don't abuse it. It will last much longer. Always get the best paddle you can, cheaper ones tend to have less longevity.
My first time Kayaking and this Kayak held strong. ruclips.net/user/postUgkx4k5UrhC3v_Y4hIEaXLGvHcN5a5aBmZNB The water got pretty rough as a speed boat zipped by me, and the Kayak withstood it (I expected to be capsized). The Ores are very easy to put together, the pump worked beautifully. the seats are a bit hard to sit in after a while (I recommend sitting on the floor). after reading the reviews I was very scared it'd get a hole in it, the material is very strong and durable. The Air valve may need a small Phillips head screwdriver to adjust, other than that, it's well worth the money!(update)I've gone Kayaking in 3 Lakes and 2 rivers totaling about 40 miles. the kayak had two holes and they patched easily and no other problems can't wait for kayaking season this year!
You do a really great job of going over the full boat on your walkthroughs; I just purchased a Moken 10 v2 here in Ohio and your video ( and others) helped me make my decision....your work beyond being a seller but a reviewer and content creator as well is greatly appreciated...
Excellent review. Similar boats, but one is built down to a price and the other is built up to a standard. Nothing wrong with that, both seem fairly priced. So you get what you pay for with either one. I have met a lot of kayakers who were happy with their first “budget” boat, but are saving for a better one. I’m glad wife and I were able to skip that step and start with Eddyline. Life is short.
I think the Lifetime Kayaks are great for entry level kayak fishing and for those who want to get started in Kayak Fishing
The lifetime Teton fishing Kayak proved to be a great first fishing kayak for 399.00 at Dicks!!! Fast and stable. A good platform.
My friend just bought the Moken 10 V2 this past spring and she loves it! I love it as well but bought a sportsman 120 cuz im a lil heavier......lol But bang for the dollar, when they are on sale for $699 - you're just not gonna beat it for quality of build and bang for buck. The purple camo really snaps!
Dan when i was in Highschool my best friend was in shop for a semester. They built a wood frame Kayak with a treated cloth skin. It looked a lot like the Kayaks used by the Deneé in the extreme north. He took that boat out on the ocean salmon fishing as well as on lakes. It was an incredible little craft!
I'm 6ft 250lbs and I love my Moken 10v2, my first kayak. I think its a great boat for the money especially when paired with a Bending Branches Angler Pro Plus paddle.
Have the moken 12.5 , don't weigh that much but wouldn't have it any other way. Same paddle, love it. I'm sure both will last my lifetime. ( unless I get lazy, can still put a trolling motor where my sonar pod is)) don't see that happening.
So thankful for your comparisons. You do an excellent job.
7:50. If you unlock the seat clips and lean back you can access the tackle box storage.
I'm picking up the lifetime mocan 10 on Friday. Thanks for the great review. The wheel in the keel sold me, against other comparable kayaks.
A new appreciation for the Moken 10’ ...Thanks Dan as always.
I think you nailed it!!! Comparisons like this are great....
I have the moken V2...and it is worth it for the extra features...#1 High capacity - I am 6'4 270... zero problems handling my size...#2 That seat...you can go 8 hours and not even feel discomfort...#3 STABILITY it says 33"... I think its closer to 35"...its just does not tip...I have been sideways in current pinned to a rock...it happens...it just does..... and still doesn't tip #4 wheel in the keel - I thought it was silly until I used it...it is awesome #5 molded in handles...so easy to carry...so easy to tie down...#6 Weight - 65 pounds is easily transportable #7 Rudder ready - I will be putting a rudder on it...it does really well for a 10 footer...but there is some swing out of the rear at low speed....I really think lifetime does a great job...if I was a reasonably normal sized person and wanted to stay under $500 i wouldn't hesitate to get a lifetime. How about those feelfree colors...I cant imagine how they get those fantastic color blends using little pebbles of plastic and melting them together.
The added features seems to be well worth the added $250. I think the rudder kit would make it a top notch rig for a budget kayak.
The question then is how much more would a rudder kit add to the cost? I bet it's several hundred dollars because of the parst involved which would bring it out of the budget yak range. No?
Dang it! You might be correct!
Feel free customer support makes this a no Brainer. Feel free every day all day. Loved mine for 5 years. Finally went all in with a 21' bay boat, but I miss my lure 13.5 every time I fill up the tank.
I bought my 12 year old son (105 lbs) a Tamarack 10 footer and myself (250 lbs) a Yukon 12 footer last Spring. We have been in lakes, rivers, creeks, canals here in PA and in the bay backwater at the Jersey shore. Seats are good. Get a orange throw float for underneath. You won't regret the purchase.
I have the original Tamarack non pro version and it is ok. I had to get used to it as it felt like I was going to flip all the time but it never did. We tried to flip it once in 2 feet of water but it proved a lot more difficult than it feels. The one thing I found was the seat on it being attracted to the boat with plastic push plugs leak like crazy. Even in the rain it gets water in the hall. Glued those suckers closed. The paddle holder isn't like the pro so no leaking but I did go through all the screws and sealed them. Now here is the problem with it, I paid 249 for it two years ago and now they are going for 299 and 349. If I were in the market today I would save up to go from the standard Tamarack to the Pro and just hit everything with sealant.
You were thorough in your review, Thank you for that. Given the number of garbage reviews on the internet yours is refreshing. You are clear and explain the differences clearly. Not sure I would buy either of these because I can afford a little more. But certainly the more expensive of these was clearly better. Even in this discussion you have pointed out the differences and helped me understand the differences and attributes of fishing kayaks. I have had a sit in 13 foot yak for several years. It worked well as kayak, but as I get older, it is getting hard to to in and out. My choice was and Old Town P160 , We will see how that works out. I will update.
I have the Yukon lifetime. I fish for bass up north in Wisconsin above Hayward. It works well and paddles easy. Stable and easy to fish out of . Easy to anchor with paddle and cords on it. I can stand on it, but I am hot the best at it yet. I am 270 lbs. I have a better two seat height with snap in locks.
I really like the headwaters info! Keep up the good work.
Thank you for your analysis. I am not a fisherman, but have an entry level Lifetime sit on top, and looking to move to the next level of my kayaking journey. When determining how much I am willing to spend upgrading to the next kayak, depends on disposable income and how much time I can expect to be on the water. I am in Las Vegas, so my choices are Lake Mead, which is a little boring, or the river below the Hoover Dam, which I prefer. Right now I am only setup to run in the hotter months of summer, but contemplating getting a wetsuit and continuing my paddling in the fall and winter months. Unfortunately, there is no other kayaking options nearby without planning a long drive or long weekend somewhere else with my Kayak.
I got a bigfish 105 for my first kayak 2 years ago and still love it, and its holding up very good.
I have a V1 Moken 12.5. paid 600$ for it brand new when the V2's came out. I must say, the wheel in the keel that Feelfree puts on their kayaks has made me a Feelfree fan for life.
Great video, my wife and I both went with Jackson Kilroy yes at about 1200 each we wanted piece of mind that we won't be replacing any time soon. I love mine for fishing, only down side they are a tad heavy at around 75 lbs each they are great though.
Feelfree all day. For $250 more you're getting something much higher quality that will easily last twice as long as the Lifetime. Being pre-plumbed for a rudder is a big plus, and the wheel in the keel is a game changer. I thought it was stupid gimmick when I saw it online, but I love it on my Lure 11.5. Hopefully they move away from their proprietary gear rails in the future.
I wish Feelfree would change their Moken molds to use the transducer pod and accept their pedal drive. I feel like a Moken 12.5 with a pedal drive being offered at the $1500-$1600 price point would one of the best values in the industry. And a Moken 14 with the current 30 inch width and a pedal drive would be an offshore machine and a Hobie revo competitor.
Bought two moken 10s. 6 years ago new. The one guy is right. They are barges. But I'm 6ft 5in tall and pushing 265 lbs. I load it with camping gear as does my wife with hers. Tomales bay bioluminescent every year. They may be wide and slow but I have no worries at all even in water that gets a little rough. They are a solid boat. Would recommend for a larger person, especially a beginner. Have beat the crap out of that thing and people think still that I just bought it. Holds its color well and the camo hides the scratches. Spend the extra money IF you cand afford it. Well worth it
Holy crap!! I looked away before the video started and I thought it was Kevin Costner speaking.
Great video. Thanks for doing the comparison.
To answer your question of which boat I would choose of these 2, it depends on how frequently I want to take it out and if I had help. I'm in my 60's so I have to think about things like ease of loading/unloading. The Lifetime is more basic but it is also a fair bit lighter which is easier to load/unload with my roof rack. I would probably choose this one if I were going out once a month or so. Some of the problems you point out are pretty easy and inexpensive to fix such as adding a flexible grommet to the paddle holder and maybe adding grips to the floor for standing up. I also have made my own trolley wheel to attach for rolling the boat to and from the water that is pretty lightweight, easy to attach and store on the boat. If I were a more frequent paddle fisherman, I might go with the other with more features. Honestly either one would be a decent choice.
Evening. I have been doing my attending as many kayak tour events as possible to get my bearing of what I would like most when I purchase and thought I was set on the Pungo 125 until having my hand at a sea kayak when the tour guide gave me a go at the Old Town Nantucket 149. I know they don't make these anymore but would like your insight to help me with that decision. So far I have enjoyed how I felt more sound in the Pungo, by not flipping it any of the times I went out, but the Old town I flipped over several times in until I was able to get my bearing learning the sea kayaks are WAY MORE sensitive with any movement of your legs of shifting of your body weight. But once I got it, I really enjoyed it. I liked how it felt faster and more nimble when dealing with getting in/out of Eddie's, lagoons and being more in the center of the mass of water we were kayaking in, but when we chilled and I got lost in my taking pictures I always felt like I was going to flip over again and it deterred me from taking pictures whenever I wanted to. I know we have some good waters here in the MD area and want to be able to do more than just the shallow stream waterways and hit the wider waterways between the Susquehanna or Annapolis waters.
WIth the present Old Town lineup I am torn between the Sorrento 126, which reviews has given me pause since it doesn't have the option for a scag and they say it has trouble tracking when there is wind, and the Loon 126sk which does have come with the scag, and an anchor, but I am not really tripping on getting an angler kayak, but guess I can't complain if it does all I want it to do AND give me the ability to take a rod out when I go out with my buddies that ARE All About fishing when they're out.
Or, just stick with the Pungo 126, that I can put a rudder on, if I so chose down the line. And I also know I can get a waterproof skirt for when I have evolved on the water to get in more choppy water and take a roll or two....
So to that, your insight is greatly appreciated?
HEY THANKS, I just ordered my Feelfree moken 10 v2 today, let ya know your video is one that helped turn my eye to it. So yeah the video definitely helped me 👍
Bought the moken 10 in 2020 and love it nice size plenty of room. I'm 5' 11'' and 250 lbs. standing is doable but I wasn't real comfortable to stand and fish. Reaching the back was great because I could turn in the seat to easily reach my gear behind me. Packed full of camping gear last year and it was fine on the water but rides low so dragged on the shallows. Great boat in all, happy with my purchase from Mike's Hike and Bike in Richmond Ky.
Awesome video. I learned a lot.
I'm not a fisherman, so I got the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's at Walmart end of season last one sale, got a deal. Took it out and was impressed with the stability and at about 57 lb I can lift myself and slide in into our RV (I'll be getting a rack soon). And most of all the seat is very nice for me. Adjustable tilt too. Other kayaks I've tried, my back is killing me after an hour. May be the best feature of this boat...at least for me. Wish it had a wheel like the more expensive boat, but I'll build or buy a dolly for it soon. Nice job on the video.
So I live in Utah and there are several Lifetime stores and the manufacturing plant near me. If you can get to a lifetime store it is considerably cheaper, I just got a Yukon for 399.97 at the lifetime store. which Im waiting on your review cause there are no real good reviews out there for it, Lifetime is starting to get into rotomolded kayaks you can check out the Lifetime Emotion Stealth Pro Angler 118 very similar to the feel free in this review and nearly the same price. ** I don't know if this is breaking news but Lifetime is coming out with a pedal drive kayak, the employees got to see pictures and got some information about it, looks like they are really starting to get serious about fishing kayaks. I'm new to the Kayak scene mostly because of fishing but this is my favorite RUclips channel i bought a sevylor Colorado fishing kayak in May, the Yukon will be my 2nd. love this channel.
Thanks Mark for the feedback and for watching the channel.
Yep I saw in another vid that Lifetime mentioned a peddle drive comming out. Ive got a yukon myself used it 2 summers now. Great boat for the $400 I paid for it.
Ive been in the market for kayaks for awhile now tired of bank fishing and making plans with buddies that have boats. Just found the feel free kayaks from your videos and more than likely thays what im going with the craftsmanship that goes into making them for the price is hard to beat. Plus the wheel in the keel is very nice as well and huge plus.
Awesome review, more money seems to be the better. I'm just a little too heavy at 275lbs. Thanks for the info.
You did a great job with this video. I'm a dedicated canoe guy. Seems everybody and their sister in law are buying kayaks these days. While i don't understand the attraction to the kayaks, compared to even a 12 foot fiberglass canoe, (My 12 footer weighs 40 pounds) It's good for those looking at kayaks to see comparisons like this one.
That V2 weighs more than my 16 foot Sawyer, that can carry fishing and camping supplies and two coolers with two people.
I think maybe the attraction is the learning curve to efficiently control a kayak is shorter than with a canoe.
But again, great job on the video.
You did a terrific job in your comparison of these two crafts. Me, I would definitely purchase the FeelFree over the Tamarack Pro. For the difference in price, which is only a couple of hundred dollars, you get the added security of stability and drainage. You also have the foundation for a rudder system. Standing up needs to have secure confidence with the rider, which I don't believe you will have with the Pro. The Pro to me is a bit too cheesy for my liking.
I think for a Kayak that does not have a pedal system, the FeelFree gives you a great bang for your buck. A few years ago I purchased a Field & Stream Talon for very close to the same price (about $50 less) which I have since sold. It had stability problems, and I got sick and tired of getting wet. If it was choppy in the Bay, it would load up with water. Or if you leaned a bit too far to either side, you were going for a roll. I rolled it 3 or 4 times so I’m really into stability.
Thank you for a great comparison job. - Jeffeo
I'm going to be buying 2 of the Lifetime Tamarack Pro's for my oldest grandsons, the boat is plenty big enough for both boys and for what we will be using them for. Thank you for continuing to do these videos and reviews, I enjoy watching them.
I’m hunting around for a couple of kayaks. I have an inflatable now but want a couple hard shells. I’m sold on the moken just have to wait for bonus time. I, a couple hours away from Redding so may go there to purchase. Liking the videos.
Aloha Dan. I'm in the market for a used kayak, but not either of these models. That said, I found this video to be very useful in identifying design features that I should be looking for when looking at various models. Just like your other videos I've seen, this was very helpful...and I really appreciate your practical approach to these reviews. Thank you.
It's 2024 and the Lifetime kayak is now priced at $679 with no changes to the design. The Feelfree Moken 10 v2 is still $699.
I just got my first kayak and it's a yukon (got a deal used). I'm excited to see your review of it that you mentioned you'd be doing in the future.
My wife and I are getting into Kayaking.
I started with an inflatable Intex and she started with an 8 foot Sun Dolphin. We are both ready to upgrade. My budget says go for the cheaper Kayak, but the features on the more expensive boat seems to be worth it based on the life of the boat.
Old guy . Love fishing . Never owned a kayak. 6’3” 190 lbs $699 suite me . 30 % lost in buying power . Love your knowledge. Any help would be marvellous
I upgraded from a cheap princess auto buffer/polisher to the dewalt after breaking the handle off. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfzbDkCRyv3CFXnLZI4APZtRRuG2uRmP2 The dewalt is beyond rugged! It's super comfortable to use and the "D" handle has many options for holding onto it if you are working in weird positions. The electronic speed control is precise and it has a nice variable speed trigger for slow ramp up.I have upgraded to the 3m quick change setup and been using it for 3 years for reconditioning gel coat on boats. It's hard work for any machine and I've had no issues. If you need a machine that can put in serious work, this is the one you want. If you want to light buffing, on your car, this is not the machine for you. It's easy to control but you can get yourself in trouble very quickly if you don't know what you are doing.
Another great video Dan. You do so much for the sport and not afraid to show the box store stuff against the bigger name products. You were one of the main reasons I went with the feelfree two years ago and have had no regrets. Thanks again.
I would wait for the more expensive one.
Hoping to get my first kayak just before spring next year.
Can’t get excited about sit on top kayaks. But,I love your reviews.
Awesome comparison video. Very much worth the view for newbies to the hobby.
I bought a Moken 10 V2 months ago and love it.
I have the tamarack and love it ! Awesome recreation kayak , very sturdy and won’t break the bank
I just got a used ATAK 12 by Wilderness Systems I'm anxious to get on the water. Inspired by Kayak Catfishing I'm getting tips on affordable modifications instead of really expensive store bought ones. The $2,200 electric trolling motor is not in my fishing budget when I can attach a regular trolling motor for a couple of hundred. I hope the built in wheel and keel showed will become an industry standard.
Nice to see you back! Will have to forward this to a friend who's looking into kayaking. Have the 12.5 v2. Love it.Can't understand why people still look at my kayak as if they never saw a wheel on the keel. Amazing how many people don't do their homework. Thanks Dan!
Thxx for the review Dan. Both are cool. For me several benefits for the extra $$ long term on the Moken!
Its a great looking craft as well. Nice sizable seat 2
I wouldn't buy either as both will track miserably. if this is your budget, however, the feel free would be the better choice. I have a feel free lure 13.5 and it's stellar. I started fishing on crappy kayaks, like most of us, and they will do until something better comes along. good review.
I have a Perception Pescador Pro 100. Decent fishing kayak...but it certainly lacks a lot of the creature comforts of more expensive boats. Yes, it has a cup holder. Yes it has front and rear storage compartments but they're all just barely out of reach to be comfortable. You can't stand and fish on it. You don't have stowage or any other compartments within reach. There's a huge price difference in what's "workable" vs what's intuitive designed and comfortable.
I just received my Feel Free Moken 10 V2. Had an Ascend 12T sold it because it was just getting to cumbersome to car top (I go kayaking a lot by myself). One of those situations where I thought I wanted/needed a 12ft then after having it a couple years came to the conclusion I didn’t lol Wheel in the keel is amazing for feel free. No more multiple trips to the boat launch to empty gear out then coming back for the yak. The basic moken 10 is good for me as I kayak/fish skinny water mostly. Love the quality of the plastics of feel free over the Ascend. Plus it’s just an amazing price for what you get really can’t beat it.
you should check out the perception outlaw 11.5 awesome budget fishing kayak for us bigger guys
Yes that's what ended up with and I love it
Yep. My second yak and I'm thrilled with it. Will probably be my last
I find that the qualifying factors for any consideration is if I can put all of my rods, gear and myself on the yak without capsizing. lol Many of these budget yaks have a really low weight limit and a person doesn't really consider how much gear ways when you start loading things on. Let alone another 245 lbs. --- I think that I could handle one without all of the bells and whistles, but it seems to go hand in hand between price and capacity.
Great review so new buyers can learn what they get for their money. Hands down, I believe you’re better off saving up the additional $250 and buying the much higher quality Feel Free...it will out perform at every level and because it’s designed, engineered and built better, it will last longer, particularly under hard use.
The extra payload alone is worth the $250. If you actually touch and feel both these kayaks, you will immediately feel the difference...the Feel Free is far more robust and the hull is much stiffer with thicker material built to last. The higher seating position on the Feel Free is also a game changer when it comes to sitting for extended time.
The budge kayaks have come a long way...but so have the premium brands. When it comes to kayaks, you truly get what you pay for...so save a little longer and I believe you’ll be a lot happier in the long run.
Great review!! Thanks!!
Can't wait to see the Yukon review. It was all I could get because of COVID this summer. I still want a Big Fish 120, but I'll stick with the Yukon for one more year. Love the channel!
7:39 Seats are a total dealmaker/breaker. it's the second thing I look for after length. Anything over ten feet is too big for a lot of the water I fish but If I feel like I've been in a car crash after 8 hours in the boat dat no goot.
I think the ascend d10 sit in kayak for 450 is a good deal, looks like a comfortable seat, I don't see many reviews, but the ones i do see, people like them.
I bought the lifetime tamarac 103 pro, an I love it. It tracks great. It's stable., seat is great.
Moken or the bigfish 105. Im leaning for the big fish due to the removable fish finder box ip front. But the feelfree has the wheel in the back
Good review. This helps a lot. Trying to pick out my first fishing kayak
I have a 10 ft Old Town Vapor fishing kayak. I looked at cheaper options, but the Vapor is so much more sturdy, and seemed like a better made option. I've had it for I think five years and it's been fantastic. I'm glad I didn't go for something cheap.
Can't wait for the review on the 11'6 Yukon you gave a glimpse of in this video. I've owned one for 2 seasons now and all around great boat for the $399 I got it for the new. Wheel is janky but I love the open platform for measuring and submitting photos in KBF tournaments. I'm looking at welding a riser to get the seat up more.
Great video Dan, I purchased the Moken 10 V2 for my son last spring and we couldn’t be happier, awesome boat for the money!
Great video again man ! I am learning so much about Kayaks. Once again thank you! Very much appreciated.
Happy to help. Thanks for watching!
Looking forward to the Yukon review. I have a tamarack right now but am planning to upgrade in the spring
i was going to get the Tamarack pro 103 but decided to go a little bigger to the Yukon, I picked it up this morning it will be a while before I can get it on the water but Im stoked.
@@mcrew26 you'll love it. I added an anchor trolley, cup holder, fish finder, 12v power bank with usb, navigation lights and a trolling motor. The yukon is definitely not a high dollar kayak but it's worth it!
Ive got a yukon. Used it 2 summers now. Awsome boat. Grabbed it for $400 at the time. Did a few mods like better paddle holders, anchor trolly, depth finder. All in all great stable boat.
Wow..... You just stopped me from buying the Tamarack!
The Moken.... Hands down!... Thks Dan
Glad I could help
Just boat the moken 12.5 as my first kayak. It does what I expected it to do- get me out on the water, fishing comfortably.
Fantastic breakdown thank you. I would go for the one at $649. Looks like much better quality
Great to see a review where the host doesn't try and come off as the authority on every feature. Very fair comparisons. It would come down to budget and how long you expect to own either kayak. We have a Perception Pescador10 and a Pelican Catch 100 with a rudder, both do all we need to fish lakes in N Georgia. Great site
I like the 649 one, I am looking to get a fishing kayak very soon.
Great video! Spend a little more money to get a more quality and better Kayak for your money! Thanks again Dan.
I think the bungee under the seat on the Tamarack is for two 3500 Plano trays. They’re only 1 inch thick.
I have a lifetime Tioga and I’ve had expensive kayaks and I love my new Tioga ..!! For the price it’s very nice and fast on water has great balance I tried flipping it by rivking it hard and literally very hard to flip it.!
Would love to see a review of the ascend 10t or hear your thoughts on the ascend line.
Or the 12t would be cool to see a review on
I dont think he does reviews anymore.
Dan. Can you tell me about the front of the boat. It looks like green one has a higher nose than the lifetime. Does that mean less water will come into the front of the boat, or does the solid handle allow water to come up through the back of the handle and into the boat? Which one takes on less water from the front?
I have had the Lifetime Tamarack now for 8 months used it at least ten times this summer. I love it! My first time kayaking and fishing. I got into the sport from watching your videos by the way!! Love it!! The Lifetime seat is super comfy.... The seals are good I don't have any water inside unless I open the front middle hatch when I caught a fish otherwise no leaks with the seals. The only thing is say the FF has over the Lifetime is the wheel and rudder which would be nice in the wind. The Lifetime I would imagine would paddle alot better than the FF I also plugged all my scuppers that helped alot because its a low boat. I would 100% recommend the Lifetime for a 1st angler!
At this point for me it really depends on stability. If/when I get another kayak really depends on if I can find something relatively easy to stand on. I like to spend a fairly long time on the water and it doesn't matter how good the seat is sooner or later I'd like the option to stand for a while. My current lifetime tamarak is a little older/different than that one, but I certainly wouldn't attempt to stand in it. The elevated seat option on the other one looks like it might make that process a bit easier.
Sounds like you wanna use a paddle board.
@@brqxton8974 Wouldn’t have the storage and I’d have the opposite problem of not having an easy way to sit. What it really boils down to is I’m gonna have to upsize or maybe settle for a John boat.
@@jongahimer5338 fair points, if you go out regularly enough and have the budget for it, I think a jon boat would be the best option for standing stability and plus you’ll never fit as much stuff on a yak as you can in a boat(safely)
Good review of both boats. Much more on the higher priced model. If you get out more, probably worth the extra 300 dollars. Looks like it is built much better.
Thank you for video on kakay fishing. I am looking forward get my first kakay this year. I like the green camoflodge
Remember if you buy a lifetime and want to practice with it and then re-sale it, make sure to resell it before Walmart releases the new models! lol, you will never get your return on reselling a kayak but it is a great place to start to learn if you even like paddling or not. I have had essentially both and now know that I want a pedal drive for bass fishing tournaments and why. I have taken every word of Dan from headwaters advice. So those are both great options for starting learning and figuring it all out.🙂
When I buy a boat, I never expect to resell it for anywhere near the original price. I don't know of a single boater that does. Buying a boat is like puying a hole in the water that you fill with money.
Wish I would’ve seen this earlier but I already ordered the Tamarack Pro. It was a good deal though, $313 shipped.
Where did you buy the Pro?
Coming at ya from 2024... They're 750 now. 😢
Not true. I just bought the Tamarack Pro at BiMart in southern Oregon today for $429.😉
Where do you shop? The tamarack pro is $399.99 at Dicks and most other places, $380 a tractor supply co and I’m seeing the molten selling for $599-$699. The prices are the same or less than they were when this was filmed…
Are you using a vpn? I had my server in Canada and was wondering why everything was so expensive then switched to USA and it was great
@@CatDaddySteve he’s talking about the more expensive one
Great video . Very informative. Thumbs up.
To your question in your description asking if it's worth the extra $250..... it all depends on your planned use. My kayak's are for just relaxing, padding around, and light fishing. My $230 Pelican 10ft boat only weighs 43lbs, does exactly what I wanted it for. So for me personally, No... not worth the extra cash.. I spent a little extra for a good Werner paddle($114). So for under $400 in total, I have a lightweight rig, and I have a blast. All those extras are not needed for myself personally.
Nice comparison video. Thanks much!
Great video, very informative. Thanks!
Thanks for another excellent review! One of the things I love love love about this and similar videos is that it shows me things to look for what comparing kayaks. In that way, your video goes well beyond these two particular kayaks. You are teaching us to be observant kayak consumers. Well done! Thank you!
Green kayak have a good height and the fantastic seat much better for you back for a long day Fishing
I have problems with my feel free in the river the bottom catches the current pretty bad and can get you sideways on rocks.
I went with the Moken 12.5 V2, because I am fat! 6’ 280lbs. I also wanted the sonar pod. I have terrible equilibrium so I put a yakgear stabilizer on my boat. Love feel free, tough, tough, tough! Wanted and needed a larger cargo hold for kayak camping. Moken paddles so easy, it takes off with little effort and I am a new kayaker. I would recommend going to an independent dealer and make sure you get a kayak that fits you.
Great feedback and advice. If you can sit in one or try one your $$ ahead.