How can we use the trinity oil blend for our unique molds and recipes without knowing how much of each oil is in the blend? My molds are 7.5lbs so curious. Thanks!
As someone who is just starting out in soap making, can you explain one more time why there's extra water if the 50/50 lye solution already has it? Also does the extra water have to be the same amout everytime? I'm excited to get started! :)
Yes of course! We could have made it a 33/66 solution, but we left the extra water portion available for customization. Using our formula, you can add an additional 7oz of distilled water OR use goat milk, aloe vera, or floral waters to customize it. That part is up to you! You can follow our exact formula here: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
Also, if I wanted to cut the recipe by half would all the measurements just be cut in half as well or are there certain measurements that stay the same regardless? Thanks for the help!
What would happen if you poured the distilled water directly into the 50/50 lye solution, and THEN added the lye water solution into the trinity oil blend? I only ask because I have been watching videos on making cold process soap and I have seen processes where the lye is poured into the distilled water, and THEN the lye water is poured into the oil mixture. However, in makesy's videos, the distilled water is added to the trinity oil blend and THEN the 50/50 lye solution is added to the oil mixture.
that step is only necessary in other videos because they are making their lye from scratch :) since ours is already 50% water and 50% lye, (easy peasy), you should add the water to your oils to avoid your 50/50 from heating up prior to being ready to combine with your oils.
Great question! This is cold process method. We have the oils in the melter heated to just above room temperature. This is not necessary if you are in a warmer climate, but they should be between 80-90 degrees. Cold process typically involves heating up oils and butters you may be using. The difference is that with hot process, you will actually "cook" the soap in a melter or crockpot for an extended period of time, which helps accelerate saponification!
Love love love this! Joanna is so sweet, I enjoyed you two in this video! Bar soap is something I wanted to add to my business but the process was too much so having this cold-processed method is so much better for us! I’m so happy you decided to add this to your product list! This company is my go-to for ingredients so I’ve been waiting for this!!
Cold process is easy, not sure what you are referring to as "the process was to hard" there are plenty of calculators that give you the exact formula for lye / water / superfat / fragrance down to the gram, no need to spend money buying something from someone that you can easily prepare yourself, you won't be making any money doing it that way, the process you are buying as a product, is no different to the process you would make yourself, it's the same cold process, either you pay someone else to give it to you so you will make less profit, or you mix the oils yourself, pretty simple.
My oils are: Palm Kernel Flakes, Shea butter, cocoa butter, Palm Oil, Coconut Oil, Olive, Castor, Rice Bran. I love conditioning soap bars with cleansing. Can I use 50/50 lye solution with this formula?
Also could we get the formulation to Make a smaller batche/ samples to test before making a bigger batch. How many parts Trinity oil to 50/50 lye solution?
The current formulation we have makes 1 loaf using 48 oz of trinity oil to 14 oz of 50/50 solution. To scale it down, you can divide it in half. For example, 24 oz of oil to 7 oz lye solution. You can verify the lye using a soap calculator!
Thank you ladies for your video. I would be really grateful if you can put clear all of recipes because I’m not very sharp as you,I need more details to make this up please.
Hi there! Here are some recipes we have: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap?_pos=1&_psq=cold+process+soap&_ss=e&_v=1.0 makesy.com/blogs/news/beginner-friendly-cold-process-soap-recipes?_pos=2&_psq=cold+process+soap&_ss=e&_v=1.0
This is amazing, thank you so much for sharing. I think I have done some of these principles in my young 6 month of soap making, without putting all the pieces together. On at least 2 occasions (I've made about 22 different batches of soap bars now), I got bars that were solid, hard, dry, soapy, and ready to use two days later, I could tell. I put it down to 10ml of Sodium Lactate. I had made and used 50:50 water/lye premix with a high water discount as I knew that is the minimum ratio a person could go to; and I even added 70g of Aloe Juice to make up the extra water/liquid to add in. I used either a lot of coconut or palm oil in the recipe also - and these so works. It appears correct that Coconut, Palm & Olive oils are the perfect combination, said by a number of established soapers online too. What amazes me, is the simplicity of weighing the bars daily until they weigh the same 3 days in a row, for early soap labelling. I've master batched water/lye 50:50 at 1 litre at a time a few times. I would love to get an electric Wax/Oil Melter too and master batch about 3kg of oils, especially the Trinity Oils (love the name by the way!). I notice from Makesy's blog that 0.22% of KOH, potassium hydroxide, is in the recipe bag? Do I need to add that? Thank you for this video - if it takes me two days to make soap safe, and can leave to quietly evaporate, until i gift it or promote it, that is a great game changer for me. Bless ya, from the UK.
Thanks so much Louisa! Sounds like such a fun and exciting soap journey you're on. We are verifying the info about the KOH and will get back to as soon as possible! Thanks for being a part of our community!
Yes the KOH is a type of lye that is necessary to make soap from oils :) It's not an extra ingredient but rather a type of lye that you can use. Hope that helps!
You can masterbatch your own oils without a wax/oil melter. Checkout soaping 101 channels video on masterbatching oils. You basically just melt your hard oils, combine them with your liquid oils and that’s it. Place you bucket in a sink of hot water for 15mins or so till it’s clear, give it a mix and pour out what you need.
Ps. KOH is a lye used to make liquid soap or used in combination with sodium hydroxide to create varying degrees of softness, viscosity or thickness. It is absolutely not required to make regular bar soap. To make your own trinity blend just use equal parts palm coconut and olive. Run the quantity you wish to use through a lye calculator and it will give you the amount of sodium hydroxide you need. I don’t know why their pre-made blend contains it (possibly to make it a proprietary blend for legal reasons) but it is absolutely not required. The ‘trinity’ without the KOH has been a time tried and tested recipe used by probably every soap maker at least once. To patent something it has to be unique in some way. That would be my best guess as to the inclusion of KOH in their blend.
This definitely invigorates my desire for learning how to make soap! I have so many questions, though. I need a dictionary for all of the terms Joanna used. My mind is blown.
In this video you mention using 8oz of distilled water. Your recipe link mentions 7oz. Which is correct? Also, what if I am using FO from another company? You don't have as large of a selection for FO so I buy other scents form other companies. I've used this recipe to a T (aside from the FO) being different and each time my soap comes out too hard and crumbles into pieces when I cut. I've tried it at 22hrs and 18hrs. I'm very confused. Can FO affect it that much!? Or am I missing something else here?
Hi there! The correct amount of water is 7oz, and yes, FO does affect it that much :( You'll need to find a fragrance that has been tested in CP soap. Most suppliers will have that information on their product pages!
I just found ur channel and it’s awesome. One of my batches is 7 lbs. I don’t use a slab mold cause I didn’t wanna get a slab cutter. So, I had my husband make me a long ass loaf mold. I do a 50/50 lye solution. So I don’t worry when I add the coconut milk or goats milk n my purée’s. But I master batch all my oils once every 2 weeks we melt down our oils n butters and mix them well and the butters never harden back up. So if I wanna infuse a soap I do it in the bucket and mark the bucket strain all the oil into a different bucket and I do it from there. I don’t infuse to often but when I do that’s how I do it. All my soaps jell and I wait 3 week’s then I do a ph test n lather check also cause I want it to be mild. But, u answered a question for me. Kinda, when someone makes hot process they cook the soap until it gel and in order for it to gel cause then it comes up to temperature once it’s that temp the soap is done and u can sell it after 48 hrs. So, even though I don’t cook GHE soap to get it to gel I still make sure it gel’s so it has to hit that temperature so, why do ppl say that u can’t sell gelled soap that is made through cold process but, u can sell that same soap if it’s cooked n forced into gel phase that way? They both have to hit the same temperature to reach gel phase so the manner in which it’s made to bring on gel phase. It makes no sense. Even though I do a huge water discount. I use 1 pound of lye and 1 pound of water then I add 3 ounces of water. I don’t know why I do that way I just do. So, why do u have to wait for one n not the other? If u could answer this question that would be great! Thank you! 🖤
Wow! So glad you found and thanks for telling us a little bit about your process. Premixing your lye and water helps the soap reach gel and proper ph faster which is why you don't need to wait. We have another video where we show using PH drops. ruclips.net/video/1229r9NxNLE/видео.html
Hi Adam! Using your PPE you can either scrape down your tools of any raw soap and then wash right away or you can set them in a bucket of water overnight. Overnight gives the raw soap a chance to saponify so it's the safest!
I am new to this, but what about a preservative? I understand that bacteria and mold grows very easily in water based formulas, or formulas with perishable materials such as aloe or green tea. What should happen in that case? Love the videos btw! 😍🥰
Great question! Because of the PH of the soap due to the lye, there shouldn't be any problem with mold as the water evaporates during gel phase! But because every formula behaves differently, we recommend always testing the life of the bar and making sure you're disinfecting your equipment prior to use.
Absolutely! The 50/50 lye solution can be used with any combination of oils you choose. When working with a new oil blend for the first time, we recommend making a small test batch first to see how the oils and fragrance behave!
Kindly explain this to me..U end up adding the same amount of water to the mixure, how do u say it is evaporated in 2 days? I mean only difference here is u add 1 part of water to lye and other part to the oil.
hi hi! Sure thing. The soap is safe to use and ready to sell in 2 days after saponification is complete. The water is not fully dissipated after 2 days. We are using a water discount in this formula to help speed up the cure time, but the real key is knowing what your final bar weight will be. If you are making your soaps to sell, you are most likely going to use the same formulas over and over again. Once you determine your final bar weight from a fully cured bar (if you get the same bar weight over a period of 3 days, it is fully cured), you know what to put on your labels moving forward. You can sell a bar of soap that weighs 3.6oz as a 3.5oz bar of soap, if 3.5oz is the final cured bar weight. This will allow you to mitigate the 4-6 week wait time before you can sell, and help scale your business and say yes to more sales opportunities. Thanks for asking this question! Let us know if you have any others!
@@makesyofficial Thank u so much for ur quick response. To go for a harder bar that's gonna last long we need to cure for 4 to 6 weeks. How in this method we r to skip that part? What happens in the process? How is the final result of the soap? Is it a harder bar? I do
I’m literally wondering the exact same thing. Are you saying that the bars have a shorter cure time because of less water we have to incorporate. Also am I allowed to add my additives like sugar and my tussah silk? Please explain more
@@josephinehodges8186 YES! You've got it. The bar uses a high water discount, sodium lactate, and with our Trinity blend of oils you can achieve a bar that is moisturizing, long-lasting, and hard. This exact formula has sold over 10 million bars of soap for Joanna at the Soap Gal! Yes, you can add sugar and tussah silk to this formula - along with whatever natural powders, micas, eco glitters, and cp soap approved fragrances that you would like!
@@madhaviudawatta4363 The formula uses a high water discount, sodium lactate, and with our Trinity blend of oils you can achieve a bar that is moisturizing, long-lasting, and hard. This exact formula has sold over 10 million bars of soap for Joanna at the Soap Gal! We highly suggest to check out our cold process soap starter kit so you can make some bars yourself! We find this to be a game changer to scale and grow their business!
I may have missed it, but to make it clear: if your recipe calls for 13.2oz of lye, and the soapmaker decides she wants 28oz of distilled water in total. Then the soap maker would dispense 13.2 of the master-batched lye, and also add 14.8 oz. of plain distilled water directly to the oils?
You would have the amount of water in a water discount to account for the water in the 50/50 solution. You can reference our written recipe here! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
Hi - thank you for sure a great video but I dont understand the water lye bit - was the 50/50 lye water in the jar master batched? The water that was added seemed like quite a bit given 50/50 lye in the jar, so do you know what the total lye vs water percentage was and what temps were you working at for both the water and oils - thank you so much for such an informative video
Hi there! Thanks so much for reaching out! It’s exactly 50% lye and 50% water. The oil is heated to room temperature and the lye is room temperature. Have fun!
If the 50/50 lye solution is not at room temperature, it’s somewhere near 65 degrees when I checked it, is there a way to warm it up? My first batch was a disaster and I read that if the lye solution and oils are too different in temperature than that would cause a fast trace. I tried email support but they only pointed me back to this video.
Hi there! Great question and so happy to help. We would recommend cooling or heating your oils to 65 degrees and/or increasing your ambient room temperature to a slightly higher temp. We would not recommend heating the solution as it could explode.
Does the 50/50 lye solution work with an oil blend we would like to use or does it only work with the trinity blend? Also if we make the 50/50 lye solution ourselves, what would you recommend to store it in?
Based on our testing, it should work well with most oil blends. We do always recommend doing a small test batch first to see how it behaves. We recommend storing your 50/50 solution in large plastic containers used to store gasoline or metal drums. Something that can't leak or leach the chemical smell! Hope that help!
@@QtwitSkyllz They won't answer because they don't know, citric acid will affect this the same way it affects any cold process ie: 1 gram of citric consumes 0.624grams of lye so you need to compensate for this as per normal, this trinity blend is nothing special, it's just equal parts coconut, olive and palm oil, do some research outside of this channel, this is just trickery they want you to buy their overpriced products
Love that you partnered with Joanna! Such a sweet and talented maker and business woman. Much felicitations on the success of Makesy, Charlotte. I'm in awe how Wooden Wick Co has become something so much more enormous and relevant.
oh, i see now, the 50/50 is not diy but a purchase ingredient. hmm, great video, i watched the whole thing! what good soap makers. great video and good luck.
I loved watching this but it didn't make using 50/50 any more clear to me. I bought a bottle of it but don't know how to adapt it to my recipe. I'm sure once I get it I'll feel dumb.😅
You can reference more info about the recipe here! The oils are just above room temp, slightly warmed to melt the palm oil and the lye solution is room temperature! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
Thank you for you video but I don’t understand anything with your water and you add more water can you please make a video in the soapcalc all your measurements and we know how you get this extra water thank you
The charcoal is an optional additive if you would like your soaps to be black! We used 1 ounce. You can swap this out for other natural powders, mica, or eco glitters. The amount you use can change depending on the strength of color pigment you want to achieve :)
@@makesyofficial so is the clay not needed? I used kaolin clay. You can replace it with mica powder? I tried making this recipe with the 50/50 lye from your website. I’m not sure what I did wrong but when I started mixing it started to get these big clumps in it and when the bar was ready to cut after sitting for recommend time, it started breaking apart. Are we suppose to use an even amount of each oil to equal out 48oz. ?
I am confused about the 50/50 lye solution and extra water. How is it different adding the water to the oils first, than it is making the lye more diluted? Also, how do I determine how much water to use in the oils separate from the 50/50 solution for my own soap formula? Were you saying that you can add up to the amount of water in the lye solution? So if I have a 50/50 solution of 5.5oz lye/5.5oz water, I can add up to 5.5oz of extra water in my oils before adding the Lye solution? Sorry for all of my confusion! Lol
Hi! Great questions! Happy to help. There is a chemical process that takes place with the 50/50 lye solution that allows the soap to cure more quickly. We talk more about this in this video here: ruclips.net/video/1229r9NxNLE/видео.html For determining your own water use, you'll want to make sure you use a soap calculator to figure our how much water to use. Hope that helps!!
@@makesyofficial thank you! I will watch it! so if it says to use 11oz of water and you have 5.5oz of lye, you use 5.5oz of water in the 50/50 solution and 5.5oz in the oil? Equaling a total of 11oz of water?
@@makesyofficials-o în soap calc how do you add? To water lye ratio ? 1:1 or do you add The extra water? Also.. What are the The trinity Blend 's ingredients? Thx
Confirming this first Q for you! The Trinity Blend is Pure Olive Oil, Coconut Oil, RSPO Palm Oil: makesy.com/products/trinity-oil-blend-1?variant=42617304711322
Yep it can! It only needs to be at 80-90F so you don't need to get it too warm. When we use it in our wax melter, we heat on low for around 10 minutes before starting. If you're in a hot climate, you may be able to get away without heating at all. Stir before you use it, to ensure all ingredients are fully combined :)
I love the concept, but the explanation of it was a little cloudy. I don't understand why that amount of water was added to the oils, with the lye solution and how one arrives at that particular number.
Correct, you would still need to add additional water, here's a recipe to try! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap?_pos=1&_psq=cold+process&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Hi... How does this 50-50 lye solution recipe wrk for those who completely use only juice or milk not distilled water ??.. plz clear my doubt In big 😕 confusion
If you want to use zero water in your formula, you wouldn't be able to use the 50-50 lye solution. However, if you're OK with some distilled water in your formula, you can substitute the 7oz water in your formula for juice or milk. Here is the formula: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
At about 3:10 you talk about the Lye concentration and I just want to clarify something. When formulating a soap recipe, first the oils are determined (types & quantity) then the amount of lye is determined to saponify the oils (with superfat as desired). If too much LYE is used as it relates to the OILS then that would be "LYE HEAVY". The amount of water used to dissolve the lye has nothing to do with a soap being lye heavy. After lye is calculated, the amount of water/liquid is determined based on many factors, including: additives, experience of soapmaker, etc. Many soap calculators default the water to "38% water as a % of oils" because most people are beginners and will benefit from a safer lye solution that contains more water. A 50/50 lye solution with water is extremely dangerous and should only be used by someone who thoroughly understands the risks!
Hi Jodi! Thank you for sharing. Can you elaborate on the danger you're speaking of so we can understand better? We have created a pre-mixed 50/50 lye solution that soap makers can buy without having to mix their own. No additional lye is necessary when using this recipe. makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
love this! Joanna you never let charlotte do anything initially it stated yall were partnering in this tutorial but dont worry next time cuz Charlotte did nothing that was so not good.
These videos are just creating confusion for everyone, sorry to say you are making such a fanfare about some magical formula but not actually explaining anything about this so called magical formula even though the videos say we are going to explain everything, so you are using a 50/50 water / lye solution, nothing special about that, all this is about is trying to sell your "special" trinity mixture, which is most likely 1/3 olive 1/3 coconut 1/3 palm, then you bang on an on about scaling your business, and show the most inaccurate way to cut a soap loaf using a cheap blade cutter that creates crooked bars, definitely won't be upscaling a soap making business using a cutter like that.
Hi there! We are so sorry to hear that you feel that way. To clarify, we have had excellent success using the 50/50 lye solution which is a pre-mixed batch which saves makers time and energy. All you need are your oils, fragrances, and solution. We do recommend using a larger scale soap cutter but this tutorial was for the entry level makers who likely will get started cutting by hand.
@@makesyofficial Hi. I'm also confused on how to use the 50/50 lye solution. I plan to use my own formula/oil blend, with your lye solution that I currently have. Yet, I do not understand how to find out implementing the amount of extra water that I'll need. I use a Winston & Walter 7.5 pound soap mold (20.13" L x 2.56" W x 4" H), With a 1.5:1 ratio of water & lye. Also, use a 7% superfat, 3% citric acid, and 1% silk fibers . Please help 🙏🏽
@diagrier9963 why wouldn't you just make your own lye solution? Why would you use theirs? Soaping at a 50/50 solution is for extremely seasoned shapers and should not be used for beginners. Use soapCalc and make your own lye solution. By the time they add their addional water the lye solution is technically a 33% concentration so why not just make your own lye solution?
Hi Alex! Yes the base recipe for this is using the trinity oil blend. You can find the details of this recipe here: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
It's clear, without even meeting her, that joanna is one of those very rare, genuinely kind harted humans. We need more people like her in the world❤
She absolutely is! And we can confirm :) She has the BIGGEST heart and wants to see everyone succeed!
How can we use the trinity oil blend for our unique molds and recipes without knowing how much of each oil is in the blend? My molds are 7.5lbs so curious. Thanks!
As someone who is just starting out in soap making, can you explain one more time why there's extra water if the 50/50 lye solution already has it? Also does the extra water have to be the same amout everytime? I'm excited to get started! :)
Yes of course! We could have made it a 33/66 solution, but we left the extra water portion available for customization. Using our formula, you can add an additional 7oz of distilled water OR use goat milk, aloe vera, or floral waters to customize it. That part is up to you! You can follow our exact formula here: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
Also, if I wanted to cut the recipe by half would all the measurements just be cut in half as well or are there certain measurements that stay the same regardless? Thanks for the help!
What would happen if you poured the distilled water directly into the 50/50 lye solution, and THEN added the lye water solution into the trinity oil blend? I only ask because I have been watching videos on making cold process soap and I have seen processes where the lye is poured into the distilled water, and THEN the lye water is poured into the oil mixture. However, in makesy's videos, the distilled water is added to the trinity oil blend and THEN the 50/50 lye solution is added to the oil mixture.
that step is only necessary in other videos because they are making their lye from scratch :) since ours is already 50% water and 50% lye, (easy peasy), you should add the water to your oils to avoid your 50/50 from heating up prior to being ready to combine with your oils.
Thank you for the video! I don’t have a melter yet, what would be a good replacement?
I have a question because you have the oil in an oil melter.Was the oil really hot?And was this considered cold process or hot?
Great question! This is cold process method. We have the oils in the melter heated to just above room temperature. This is not necessary if you are in a warmer climate, but they should be between 80-90 degrees. Cold process typically involves heating up oils and butters you may be using. The difference is that with hot process, you will actually "cook" the soap in a melter or crockpot for an extended period of time, which helps accelerate saponification!
Love this! Can you post exact ingredients/measurements so we can try this out, pretty please? Thank you!
hi love! here's the exact formula: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
Can you tell how much oils make up the 3 lbs
Great video! What would the recipe be for a 3 lb soap loaf mold?
You can get a 3lb soap mold recipe by referencing Joanna's tutorial using our new hobby lobby kit here! ruclips.net/video/8tn-VII8BO8/видео.html
Love love love this! Joanna is so sweet, I enjoyed you two in this video! Bar soap is something I wanted to add to my business but the process was too much so having this cold-processed method is so much better for us! I’m so happy you decided to add this to your product list! This company is my go-to for ingredients so I’ve been waiting for this!!
Woo! So excited. So glad to hear!!
Cold process is easy, not sure what you are referring to as "the process was to hard" there are plenty of calculators that give you the exact formula for lye / water / superfat / fragrance down to the gram, no need to spend money buying something from someone that you can easily prepare yourself, you won't be making any money doing it that way, the process you are buying as a product, is no different to the process you would make yourself, it's the same cold process, either you pay someone else to give it to you so you will make less profit, or you mix the oils yourself, pretty simple.
My oils are: Palm Kernel Flakes, Shea butter, cocoa butter, Palm Oil, Coconut Oil, Olive, Castor, Rice Bran. I love conditioning soap bars with cleansing. Can I use 50/50 lye solution with this formula?
Yes! You will want to reference a soap calculator for how much lye to use.
Also could we get the formulation to Make a smaller batche/ samples to test before making a bigger batch. How many parts Trinity oil to 50/50 lye solution?
The current formulation we have makes 1 loaf using 48 oz of trinity oil to 14 oz of 50/50 solution. To scale it down, you can divide it in half. For example, 24 oz of oil to 7 oz lye solution. You can verify the lye using a soap calculator!
I wanted to know if your bars end up weighing differently can they still be priced the same?
Hi! We would suggest to adjust the price if the bars weigh differently, it would be best to determine a base price and adjust based on weight! :)
Thank you ladies for your video.
I would be really grateful if you can put clear all of recipes because I’m not very sharp as you,I need more details to make this up please.
Hi there! Here are some recipes we have:
makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap?_pos=1&_psq=cold+process+soap&_ss=e&_v=1.0
makesy.com/blogs/news/beginner-friendly-cold-process-soap-recipes?_pos=2&_psq=cold+process+soap&_ss=e&_v=1.0
If I want to make just 100% coconut soap could I still use the 50/50 lye solution or would I still need to add the distilled water?
You can still use the 50/50 lye solution but make a very small test batch to see how it behaves!
This is amazing, thank you so much for sharing. I think I have done some of these principles in my young 6 month of soap making, without putting all the pieces together. On at least 2 occasions (I've made about 22 different batches of soap bars now), I got bars that were solid, hard, dry, soapy, and ready to use two days later, I could tell. I put it down to 10ml of Sodium Lactate. I had made and used 50:50 water/lye premix with a high water discount as I knew that is the minimum ratio a person could go to; and I even added 70g of Aloe Juice to make up the extra water/liquid to add in. I used either a lot of coconut or palm oil in the recipe also - and these so works. It appears correct that Coconut, Palm & Olive oils are the perfect combination, said by a number of established soapers online too. What amazes me, is the simplicity of weighing the bars daily until they weigh the same 3 days in a row, for early soap labelling. I've master batched water/lye 50:50 at 1 litre at a time a few times. I would love to get an electric Wax/Oil Melter too and master batch about 3kg of oils, especially the Trinity Oils (love the name by the way!). I notice from Makesy's blog that 0.22% of KOH, potassium hydroxide, is in the recipe bag? Do I need to add that? Thank you for this video - if it takes me two days to make soap safe, and can leave to quietly evaporate, until i gift it or promote it, that is a great game changer for me. Bless ya, from the UK.
Thanks so much Louisa! Sounds like such a fun and exciting soap journey you're on. We are verifying the info about the KOH and will get back to as soon as possible! Thanks for being a part of our community!
Yes the KOH is a type of lye that is necessary to make soap from oils :) It's not an extra ingredient but rather a type of lye that you can use. Hope that helps!
You can masterbatch your own oils without a wax/oil melter. Checkout soaping 101 channels video on masterbatching oils. You basically just melt your hard oils, combine them with your liquid oils and that’s it. Place you bucket in a sink of hot water for 15mins or so till it’s clear, give it a mix and pour out what you need.
Ps. KOH is a lye used to make liquid soap or used in combination with sodium hydroxide to create varying degrees of softness, viscosity or thickness. It is absolutely not required to make regular bar soap. To make your own trinity blend just use equal parts palm coconut and olive. Run the quantity you wish to use through a lye calculator and it will give you the amount of sodium hydroxide you need. I don’t know why their pre-made blend contains it (possibly to make it a proprietary blend for legal reasons) but it is absolutely not required. The ‘trinity’ without the KOH has been a time tried and tested recipe used by probably every soap maker at least once. To patent something it has to be unique in some way. That would be my best guess as to the inclusion of KOH in their blend.
And the reason for their wishy washy response.
What do I do with the pitcher of water once I am done making the batch? Is it safe to put down the drain?
yes it is safe to put down the drain! Lye is what your drain cleaner is made of - it'll keep your pipes clean ;)
This definitely invigorates my desire for learning how to make soap! I have so many questions, though. I need a dictionary for all of the terms Joanna used. My mind is blown.
Aw yay! Joanna is the best. We have a video here talking about the common soap terms :) ruclips.net/video/nXiyYZPSnhs/видео.html
Is there a way to properly calculate the right ratio of products for smaller batches?
There is! If you want to cup the recipe in half, just divide the formula by 2.
if you put this in soap calc will it do the calculations for you
You can reference the calculations here: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
In this video you mention using 8oz of distilled water. Your recipe link mentions 7oz. Which is correct? Also, what if I am using FO from another company? You don't have as large of a selection for FO so I buy other scents form other companies. I've used this recipe to a T (aside from the FO) being different and each time my soap comes out too hard and crumbles into pieces when I cut. I've tried it at 22hrs and 18hrs. I'm very confused. Can FO affect it that much!? Or am I missing something else here?
Hi there! The correct amount of water is 7oz, and yes, FO does affect it that much :( You'll need to find a fragrance that has been tested in CP soap. Most suppliers will have that information on their product pages!
Thank you for this amazing content, I would love to not use palm oil, what can I substitute it with?
There are many options! You can choose a butter or other rich oil.
What temp does one cool the lye solution down to before adding the other ingredients like essential oils or more into it?
We recommend allowing it to cool to room temperature. If you purchase a pre-made 50/50 mix you can use at its stored room temp :) tinyurl.com/32vaah6r
I just found ur channel and it’s awesome. One of my batches is 7 lbs. I don’t use a slab mold cause I didn’t wanna get a slab cutter. So, I had my husband make me a long ass loaf mold. I do a 50/50 lye solution. So I don’t worry when I add the coconut milk or goats milk n my purée’s. But I master batch all my oils once every 2 weeks we melt down our oils n butters and mix them well and the butters never harden back up. So if I wanna infuse a soap I do it in the bucket and mark the bucket strain all the oil into a different bucket and I do it from there. I don’t infuse to often but when I do that’s how I do it. All my soaps jell and I wait 3 week’s then I do a ph test n lather check also cause I want it to be mild. But, u answered a question for me. Kinda, when someone makes hot process they cook the soap until it gel and in order for it to gel cause then it comes up to temperature once it’s that temp the soap is done and u can sell it after 48 hrs. So, even though I don’t cook GHE soap to get it to gel I still make sure it gel’s so it has to hit that temperature so, why do ppl say that u can’t sell gelled soap that is made through cold process but, u can sell that same soap if it’s cooked n forced into gel phase that way? They both have to hit the same temperature to reach gel phase so the manner in which it’s made to bring on gel phase. It makes no sense. Even though I do a huge water discount. I use 1 pound of lye and 1 pound of water then I add 3 ounces of water. I don’t know why I do that way I just do. So, why do u have to wait for one n not the other? If u could answer this question that would be great! Thank you! 🖤
Wow! So glad you found and thanks for telling us a little bit about your process. Premixing your lye and water helps the soap reach gel and proper ph faster which is why you don't need to wait. We have another video where we show using PH drops. ruclips.net/video/1229r9NxNLE/видео.html
Cuánta agua extra hay que añadir a cualquier fórmula?. En esta fueron 7 onzas, pero si la mezcla de aceites tiene otra cantidad? Gracias
You can reference the recipe details here! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
THANK YOU JOANNA, THAK VERY MUCH
Thank you for useful information.
I mixed a little too long and had to scoop out climbs into the case 😅 any recommendations for clean up? Do I wait 48 hours to clean my tools??
Hi Adam! Using your PPE you can either scrape down your tools of any raw soap and then wash right away or you can set them in a bucket of water overnight. Overnight gives the raw soap a chance to saponify so it's the safest!
I am new to this, but what about a preservative? I understand that bacteria and mold grows very easily in water based formulas, or formulas with perishable materials such as aloe or green tea. What should happen in that case? Love the videos btw! 😍🥰
Great question! Because of the PH of the soap due to the lye, there shouldn't be any problem with mold as the water evaporates during gel phase! But because every formula behaves differently, we recommend always testing the life of the bar and making sure you're disinfecting your equipment prior to use.
Hello. That’s amazing! Can I use other base oils with this method, if I make my soap without palm oil or I prefer shea butter, for example?
Absolutely! The 50/50 lye solution can be used with any combination of oils you choose. When working with a new oil blend for the first time, we recommend making a small test batch first to see how the oils and fragrance behave!
@@makesyofficial thank you very much 💚💚💚
Kindly explain this to me..U end up adding the same amount of water to the mixure, how do u say it is evaporated in 2 days? I mean only difference here is u add 1 part of water to lye and other part to the oil.
hi hi! Sure thing. The soap is safe to use and ready to sell in 2 days after saponification is complete. The water is not fully dissipated after 2 days. We are using a water discount in this formula to help speed up the cure time, but the real key is knowing what your final bar weight will be. If you are making your soaps to sell, you are most likely going to use the same formulas over and over again. Once you determine your final bar weight from a fully cured bar (if you get the same bar weight over a period of 3 days, it is fully cured), you know what to put on your labels moving forward. You can sell a bar of soap that weighs 3.6oz as a 3.5oz bar of soap, if 3.5oz is the final cured bar weight. This will allow you to mitigate the 4-6 week wait time before you can sell, and help scale your business and say yes to more sales opportunities. Thanks for asking this question! Let us know if you have any others!
@@makesyofficial Thank u so much for ur quick response. To go for a harder bar that's gonna last long we need to cure for 4 to 6 weeks. How in this method we r to skip that part? What happens in the process? How is the final result of the soap? Is it a harder bar?
I do
I’m literally wondering the exact same thing. Are you saying that the bars have a shorter cure time because of less water we have to incorporate. Also am I allowed to add my additives like sugar and my tussah silk? Please explain more
@@josephinehodges8186 YES! You've got it. The bar uses a high water discount, sodium lactate, and with our Trinity blend of oils you can achieve a bar that is moisturizing, long-lasting, and hard. This exact formula has sold over 10 million bars of soap for Joanna at the Soap Gal! Yes, you can add sugar and tussah silk to this formula - along with whatever natural powders, micas, eco glitters, and cp soap approved fragrances that you would like!
@@madhaviudawatta4363 The formula uses a high water discount, sodium lactate, and with our Trinity blend of oils you can achieve a bar that is moisturizing, long-lasting, and hard. This exact formula has sold over 10 million bars of soap for Joanna at the Soap Gal! We highly suggest to check out our cold process soap starter kit so you can make some bars yourself! We find this to be a game changer to scale and grow their business!
I may have missed it, but to make it clear: if your recipe calls for 13.2oz of lye, and the soapmaker decides she wants 28oz of distilled water in total. Then the soap maker would dispense 13.2 of the master-batched lye, and also add 14.8 oz. of plain distilled water directly to the oils?
You would have the amount of water in a water discount to account for the water in the 50/50 solution. You can reference our written recipe here! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
So excited to try this! Can’t wait to get my order!
Yay! Look forward to seeing what you make!
So did you "try this" order, why can't you simply mix this stuff yourself, no need to order something it's just cold process using a 50/50 water / lye
Could you tell me please what fragrance has been used in this recipe? It looks like it behaves perfectly in CP soap. Thank you for sharing!
Rose Patchouli & Amber :) We also have the testing results available here! ruclips.net/video/2-aF0DkRtFs/видео.html
@@makesyofficial Thank you very much! ❤️
Great video! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! Have a great week!
Hi - thank you for sure a great video but I dont understand the water lye bit - was the 50/50 lye water in the jar master batched? The water that was added seemed like quite a bit given 50/50 lye in the jar, so do you know what the total lye vs water percentage was and what temps were you working at for both the water and oils - thank you so much for such an informative video
Hi there! Thanks so much for reaching out! It’s exactly 50% lye and 50% water. The oil is heated to room temperature and the lye is room temperature. Have fun!
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what is the ratio of the oil blend. I live in a place where I cant get your oil blend.
Please contact our customer service team at hello@makesy.com
Can’t wait to get my supplies. Recommendations on eco friendly labels to use?
Yay! Check out Pure Labels: www.purelabels.com/
I only bought one melter can I use it for both candles and soap making
Yes absolutely! It will just need to be cleaned thoroughly with hot soapy water between uses.
If the 50/50 lye solution is not at room temperature, it’s somewhere near 65 degrees when I checked it, is there a way to warm it up? My first batch was a disaster and I read that if the lye solution and oils are too different in temperature than that would cause a fast trace. I tried email support but they only pointed me back to this video.
Hi there! Great question and so happy to help. We would recommend cooling or heating your oils to 65 degrees and/or increasing your ambient room temperature to a slightly higher temp. We would not recommend heating the solution as it could explode.
Does the 50/50 lye solution work with an oil blend we would like to use or does it only work with the trinity blend? Also if we make the 50/50 lye solution ourselves, what would you recommend to store it in?
Based on our testing, it should work well with most oil blends. We do always recommend doing a small test batch first to see how it behaves. We recommend storing your 50/50 solution in large plastic containers used to store gasoline or metal drums. Something that can't leak or leach the chemical smell! Hope that help!
@@makesyofficial thank you so much!
@makesy How would citric acid affect this formula? And what are your thoughts on using citric acid in cp soap?
@@QtwitSkyllz They won't answer because they don't know, citric acid will affect this the same way it affects any cold process ie: 1 gram of citric consumes 0.624grams of lye so you need to compensate for this as per normal, this trinity blend is nothing special, it's just equal parts coconut, olive and palm oil, do some research outside of this channel, this is just trickery they want you to buy their overpriced products
Love that you partnered with Joanna! Such a sweet and talented maker and business woman. Much felicitations on the success of Makesy, Charlotte. I'm in awe how Wooden Wick Co has become something so much more enormous and relevant.
Thank you so much Layna! We agree and absolutely love the soap gal!
oh, i see now, the 50/50 is not diy but a purchase ingredient. hmm, great video, i watched the whole thing! what good soap makers. great video and good luck.
You can DIY the 50/50 solution if you'd like but we've pre-batched it for you so it's easier and you don't have to deal with nasty fumes!
Here’s a video I found that explains the math formula for 50/50 Lye solution: ruclips.net/video/-pTfiOVK4bY/видео.html
You can also purchase it premixed here! tinyurl.com/4k94vu7z
Hello! Such agreatvideo! Thanks
Thanks so much! We're so glad to hear! :)
How many Batches does the pro kit make?
3 batches - and that yields 48 bars!
I loved watching this but it didn't make using 50/50 any more clear to me. I bought a bottle of it but don't know how to adapt it to my recipe. I'm sure once I get it I'll feel dumb.😅
Nice video thanks! But about temperatures, there is not mention about it !
You can reference more info about the recipe here! The oils are just above room temp, slightly warmed to melt the palm oil and the lye solution is room temperature! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
Is the water discount based on the batch size?
The water discount is based on the ratios of oils - lye - water! You can double or triple etc this batch size.
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Thank you for you video but I don’t understand anything with your water and you add more water can you please make a video in the soapcalc all your measurements and we know how you get this extra water thank you
Yes! thanks so much for reaching out
The recipe on the site has 1oz of clay, but no mention of the charcoal. How much charcoal is needed for this exact recipe? Thank you!
The charcoal is an optional additive if you would like your soaps to be black! We used 1 ounce. You can swap this out for other natural powders, mica, or eco glitters. The amount you use can change depending on the strength of color pigment you want to achieve :)
@@makesyofficial so is the clay not needed? I used kaolin clay. You can replace it with mica powder? I tried making this recipe with the 50/50 lye from your website. I’m not sure what I did wrong but when I started mixing it started to get these big clumps in it and when the bar was ready to cut after sitting for recommend time, it started breaking apart. Are we suppose to use an even amount of each oil to equal out 48oz. ?
@@krae6010I hope you did not use that soap. Sounds to me like it's lye heavy and therefore should not be used
@@tennilledenton4678 no I didn’t use it! I threw that batch out.
@@krae6010 thank goodness. When I read this I almost shit myself hoping you had not used it lol
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks
Great video but that lid not being completely closed at ruclips.net/video/afSGRYxsqLI/видео.html is seriously causing me some OCD issues!
OMG haha! Ooops!
I am confused about the 50/50 lye solution and extra water. How is it different adding the water to the oils first, than it is making the lye more diluted?
Also, how do I determine how much water to use in the oils separate from the 50/50 solution for my own soap formula? Were you saying that you can add up to the amount of water in the lye solution? So if I have a 50/50 solution of 5.5oz lye/5.5oz water, I can add up to 5.5oz of extra water in my oils before adding the Lye solution?
Sorry for all of my confusion! Lol
Hi! Great questions! Happy to help. There is a chemical process that takes place with the 50/50 lye solution that allows the soap to cure more quickly. We talk more about this in this video here: ruclips.net/video/1229r9NxNLE/видео.html
For determining your own water use, you'll want to make sure you use a soap calculator to figure our how much water to use. Hope that helps!!
@@makesyofficial thank you! I will watch it! so if it says to use 11oz of water and you have 5.5oz of lye, you use 5.5oz of water in the 50/50 solution and 5.5oz in the oil? Equaling a total of 11oz of water?
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@@makesyofficials-o în soap calc how do you add? To water lye ratio ? 1:1 or do you add The extra water?
Also.. What are the The trinity Blend 's ingredients? Thx
Confirming this first Q for you! The Trinity Blend is Pure Olive Oil, Coconut Oil, RSPO Palm Oil: makesy.com/products/trinity-oil-blend-1?variant=42617304711322
Can the trinity blend only be melted in a melting pot? Or can it be done in a microwave as well?
Yep it can! It only needs to be at 80-90F so you don't need to get it too warm. When we use it in our wax melter, we heat on low for around 10 minutes before starting. If you're in a hot climate, you may be able to get away without heating at all. Stir before you use it, to ensure all ingredients are fully combined :)
@@makesyofficial what is the trinity recipe, if you want to make it yourself
I love the concept, but the explanation of it was a little cloudy. I don't understand why that amount of water was added to the oils, with the lye solution and how one arrives at that particular number.
You can reference more on our blog here! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
I’m confused using the 50-50 lye solution you still need to add distilled water ?
Correct, you would still need to add additional water, here's a recipe to try! makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap?_pos=1&_psq=cold+process&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Hi... How does this 50-50 lye solution recipe wrk for those who completely use only juice or milk not distilled water ??.. plz clear my doubt In big 😕 confusion
If you want to use zero water in your formula, you wouldn't be able to use the 50-50 lye solution. However, if you're OK with some distilled water in your formula, you can substitute the 7oz water in your formula for juice or milk. Here is the formula: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
@@makesyofficial thankyou 🥰
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At about 3:10 you talk about the Lye concentration and I just want to clarify something. When formulating a soap recipe, first the oils are determined (types & quantity) then the amount of lye is determined to saponify the oils (with superfat as desired). If too much LYE is used as it relates to the OILS then that would be "LYE HEAVY". The amount of water used to dissolve the lye has nothing to do with a soap being lye heavy. After lye is calculated, the amount of water/liquid is determined based on many factors, including: additives, experience of soapmaker, etc. Many soap calculators default the water to "38% water as a % of oils" because most people are beginners and will benefit from a safer lye solution that contains more water. A 50/50 lye solution with water is extremely dangerous and should only be used by someone who thoroughly understands the risks!
Hi Jodi! Thank you for sharing. Can you elaborate on the danger you're speaking of so we can understand better? We have created a pre-mixed 50/50 lye solution that soap makers can buy without having to mix their own. No additional lye is necessary when using this recipe. makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap
love this! Joanna you never let charlotte do anything initially it stated yall were partnering in this tutorial but dont worry next time cuz Charlotte did nothing that was so not good.
Hey when you're an expert, you're an expert! :) We wanted to let Joanna shine in her area of expertise.
These videos are just creating confusion for everyone, sorry to say you are making such a fanfare about some magical formula but not actually explaining anything about this so called magical formula even though the videos say we are going to explain everything, so you are using a 50/50 water / lye solution, nothing special about that, all this is about is trying to sell your "special" trinity mixture, which is most likely 1/3 olive 1/3 coconut 1/3 palm, then you bang on an on about scaling your business, and show the most inaccurate way to cut a soap loaf using a cheap blade cutter that creates crooked bars, definitely won't be upscaling a soap making business using a cutter like that.
Hi there! We are so sorry to hear that you feel that way. To clarify, we have had excellent success using the 50/50 lye solution which is a pre-mixed batch which saves makers time and energy. All you need are your oils, fragrances, and solution. We do recommend using a larger scale soap cutter but this tutorial was for the entry level makers who likely will get started cutting by hand.
@@makesyofficial Hi. I'm also confused on how to use the 50/50 lye solution. I plan to use my own formula/oil blend, with your lye solution that I currently have. Yet, I do not understand how to find out implementing the amount of extra water that I'll need. I use a Winston & Walter 7.5 pound soap mold (20.13" L x 2.56" W x 4" H), With a 1.5:1 ratio of water & lye. Also, use a 7% superfat, 3% citric acid, and 1% silk fibers . Please help 🙏🏽
@diagrier9963 why wouldn't you just make your own lye solution? Why would you use theirs? Soaping at a 50/50 solution is for extremely seasoned shapers and should not be used for beginners. Use soapCalc and make your own lye solution. By the time they add their addional water the lye solution is technically a 33% concentration so why not just make your own lye solution?
This isnt a recipe if you require us buy your trinity oil. Literally explained nothing properly.
Hi Alex! Yes the base recipe for this is using the trinity oil blend. You can find the details of this recipe here: makesy.com/blogs/news/how-to-make-cold-process-soap