I had the pleasure of working with Tom and Chicago Podcast Studio to build my studio in Atlanta, and it's been nothing short of amazing. From the initial design based on my space's layout to the selection of furniture and equipment, the process was seamless. In less than six months, we've hosted over 100 sessions without a single complaint, a testament to their expertise and attention to detail. As someone who never even owned a camera, Tom's guidance was invaluable. He educated me on camera basics like aperture, ISO, and shutter speed, elevating my skills to a level that impresses other production teams. Our studio is now thriving, grossing up to $3k weekly. Looking forward to expanding in 2024 with at least three sets, and we're excited to collaborate with Tom and Chicago Podcast Studio again. Their dedication and expertise are worth every penny, and we're even considering their premium package for the next project. Huge thanks to Tom and CPS for their exceptional service!
Kisean, thank you for that nice testimony and allowing us to bring your studio to life! I'm SO SO glad that your studio looks good, functions well and is producing income for you!! Looking forward to these new sets in 2024!
Thank you for this! Our studio in Bangkok was inspired by your original videos! Looking forward to more content like this and inevitably sharing our setup.
@@TheStudioBusiness Can you make a video about how you got the funding to setup the studio and If you're not comfortable can you make a video about what you would do to raise money if you were starting from scratch and how much one will need to setup a studio like yours, rent, equipments and the whole nine yard.I want to open my own podcast studio and don't know how to go about the business plan and how to raise money. But i have the technical know how and i know i can manage a studio since i've been doing this for 15 plus years.
I just had my mind blown by the same thing. I saw how he was putting the audio straight from the Rodecaster's main stereo out to the Atem.... AND THATS IT??? Ok, so apparently no individual editing, no mic bleed editing..... WTF. Apart from the professional setup, that audio side of things is very unprofessional.
@@UmamiSegrt In short, in the case of a podcast like this guy, probably this: After recording, import the video from the camera('s) + the multitrack audio from the Rodecaster into whatever video editing software you prefer. If you're using the Atem like this guy it would make sense to use Davinci Resolve because you can import your Resolve file straight from the Atem which includes angle switches that you did on the go. Edit the video as you please synced with the multitrack audio. When finished export the edited multitrack audio as an AAF or OMF file and import into a DAW (I use Pro Tools). Edit and process the individual audio tracks here, mix tot the proper levels and put some end bus processing. Export the mix, import into Resolve and lay under the video. Export the video with the new audio mix. Done. Now, I know Resolve (and other video editing software) do have audio editing/processing capabilities. But I am an audio guy so I would prefer to work with audio in a DAW. Not a video editor. But I'm sure it can get the job done too...
The amount of vital information you shared in this video is insane!! Thank you so much. For the life of me I couldn’t figure out how to get over recording pass 30 minutes without my camera either overheating or dying 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thanks so much for this, and you're my inspiration for building my own podcast studio. I'm planning on 2 sets and have a Mega Desk also 😂 one set is a rolling table for up to 4 participants and the other set will be more intimate for 2. Size wise its 26x15' and plan to rotate the Mega desk 180⁰ depending on the set being used. 3 FF Canon cameras, and using the Rodecaster Pro 2 in tandem with the Atem mini pro ISO. Hopefully it will be enough to start. For editing, do you think I can upload to Riverside and use their AI editing tools to get a decent result?
Hey David, glad the videos have been helpful! Yes, Riverside offers great editing tools and that would for sure get you started and maybe the only thing you need. We typically edit in Premiere, but it's probably not needed.
I also set-up my 4 person studio conf table style almost identical to the first studio tour video you posted some time ago. Now I’m adding another set and will likely replicate much of the same with the furniture. Awesome to see you doing so well from when you started and your info was super helpful- thanks for sharing. I went with LUMIX S5iix instead of the fx30’s and the full frame in a tighter spaces has allowed us to have a much smaller footprint with roughly the same cost as the Sony’s. Looking forward to more videos in the (hopefully near this time) future!
Thanks for continuing to watch! Yes, I let this year get away from me, but I'm hoping to pick it back up and get on a more regular cadence for 2024. Glad it's been helpful to you!
Great followup video. We built our podcast recording studio based on the first video you released, which was super helpful. Thank you. The one area we are still trying to iron out is the quality of audio from the Rodecaster to the ATEM mini. We have the same cable you referred to and the mic input on the ATEM set to line. This takes care of the noise issue. However the audio recorded internally on the rodecaster seems to be higher quality then the audio we are getting when it is sent to the ATEM. I'm wondering if you ever any issues going from a balanced output (rodecaster) to an unbalanced input (ATEM). Also, how do you deal with audio delay/drift? Looking forward to the next video!
Thanks for the comment and glad the videos have helped! I've noticed that the audio from the atem (directly from the rodecaster) isn't 100% the same and I'd lean towards slightly worse, but to me it's a negligible difference (to my ears). That's why we give clients the audio too in case they want to use that. We do not have drift problems surprisingly.
Hello, thank you very much for the video. It's incredible. I just have one question! I connect the Rodecaster Pro to the Atem Mini, but the cameras don't change by themselves through sound? Does it have to be manually?
Hey bruh…you included links for all your equipment except the (video) monitor arms. I’m in desperate need and yours look perfect in every way. Please let me know where 🙏🏾 thanks!
HI. What an informative video; your studios are beautiful with a smart technical workflow. I'd like to ask, what are the individual sizes of each studio in your collection?
how close is the camera to the talent with a max 28mm lens on the A7III? Seems like that would still be pretty wide. Is there a link where we can see one of the podcasts and what the different shots look like on this setup?
The center camera (a7iii) is a 17-28 tamron. Use often use it fully wide when doing groups of 4. The fx30 side cameras have a 28-70 full frame lens (so it has a zoom crop) and we typically have that in 35-50mm. I believe I show example of the different shots at various times in the video, mostly at the start or camera section.
What about real-time redundancies for video and audio capture? Everything just going to a single drive with no simultaneous (if even individualized) backups?
Great stuff I am inspired for our upcoming studio build. My question is does the ATEM record each camera feed separately or at least can it? I ask because I am a one man show so I produce, host and edit all the content. So when I am actually hosting the podcast I can't be focused on Switching cams and such. So we have some good Canon DSLRs that I love but they have the 30min record limit so I also thought of using a video switcher but I want to be able to edit each camera feed after the fact. Just curious. Great video and very well done loved the editing and great ad integration.
Thanks, Logan! Appreciate the props for the ad integration lol. Get an ATEM Mini Pro ISO -- The ISO option will allow you to record the isolated files for all cameras. If you buy the other cheaper units, you won't be able to do that. This route you do not need to record in-camera.
Tom this is a great video! Thank you for being so thorough in sharing how you went about building it through. I have a podcast studio that I have built out in Austin, TX. We're creating a second studio with a room next door and excited to implement the lighting tricks you've shown here. Question: I use the ATEM Mini Pro ISO to record using two Sony A7SIII's and a Sony A7III. The file sizes in the Video ISO Folder are substantially big. How do you go about sending these massive files?
Yea i'm not sure what happens when you do ISO recordings but what would be a 10gb file turns into 70+ when you record 3 cameras, which doesn't add up to me. We rarely, if ever, hand over those files without a drive being supplied by client or transferring on-site. In the case we need to, we just bite the bullet and upload to google drive or dropbox and just let it take ages. Glad the videos have helped you out!
Hey buddy, I tried doing the same, with the camera being on an arm on the desk, but if someone were to sit at the Mega Desk and switch the camera on the switcher or even a slight knock to the table would shake the cameras, don’t you go through the same bro?
Yes, you are correct that it’s not perfect and I should have been more forthcoming about that drawback. If they are boomed out, the shake is quite noticeable, if they are collapsed on top of each other (the arms) it’s really not a big issue but being careful not the bump the table is still needed. I wish the arms did a better job absorbing bumps. I’d still prefer this with the limitations over doing tripods and more cables tho!
Congratulations! Great video, very well produced, and I picked up some incredible tips for my own studio! Have subscribed, and I look forward to more great videos from you!
We do, yes. If you put the camera in 4k mode, it'll look better (from the hdmi output) than if it was set to 1080p. You will need to set your hdmi output to 1080p though or else the atem won't recognize the signal.
Yea, I didn't mention it, but if they are in the boomed out position, they can slightly wobble if you bump the table or sometimes as little as just hitting the buttons on the atem. So we rarely boom out, and if we do, we be extra careful.
Very interesting video, I tried to set our studio up the way you described. Just one thing I didn’t quite understand yet. Isn’t it, that the Atem Mini Extreme can’t output 4K quality? Wouldn’t the cameras be quite overpowered or am I doing something wrong with either BMD or the camera settings?
Yea black magic atem is 1080p locked output wise. But you can put the cameras in 4k mode in idle and (still 1080p out via hdmi) but that will give you more of a downsampled 4k look. We also could, if we wanted to, record internally on the cameras in studio or elsewhere. Cheaper cameras could work all the same but we like the fx30s
Cameras are in PP0 or no picture profile. That way the most color is coming through right out the gate. Not sure what bar you are referring so, but the ones that go across the pipes and support the lighting, yes are secure, they are typically tension rods, but we mounted them with heavy duty clamps.
Mind blown!! I believe you just solved my biggest problem. Please correct me if I misunderstood your cameras are on all your settings are set but you never hit record on the camera. You do everything through the ATM, mini pro extreme and the SSD is that correct? Love your content keep it up
Just recorded a podcast last weekend, and the workflow worked great. However, when we were setting up, we had a tremendous amount of bleed over between the mics, and I followed the rule where you keep the one Mike polar pattern opposite from the other mics pattern and I had enough, but there shouldn’t of been bleed over any thoughts
@@TheStudioBusiness I've never thought about that. I have been recording with OBS and noticing some lags between audio and video sync. I have an Atem mini pro. I'll try that and see how it goes.
Hi, you can control de Atem not only búa usb c, you can control the Atem by the UTP conexión you have in the black conecte to your computer or if your computer and your Atem are in the same network enviroment.
You know, I looked into that, and was just not able to make it work. They way we move the desk around, it wasn't easily attached into the network and so I just ditched that method. Good idea for others to look into though!
Pro tip: If you dont need shallow DOF on your wide, get a ax700 for your next camera. That way you have more zoom options with it and dont need to buy more lenses.
I was thinking of starting a podcast studio love the three studio set up giving podcaster options. Are the cameras on the mobile studio only cameras in use?
Mostly, we have another 2 cameras we use for other content that sometimes are used in the setup. Especially if we have groups of 3-4 in, we bring out another camera.
Great information and very inspirational. But you left out one thing I really want to get for the studio I am building. At 0:21 / 19:01 you have a metalic object on the wall. Do you sell that, and if so, I want to buy one, but if not can you tell me where I can find it for sale? I am nowhere near your level of sophistication, but I aspire to get there. Thank you. • Core Gear Overview
You said that you record the video files to the SSD and then give that to the client. Are you only giving them the live cut or also the individual files as well? Do you also record using Riverside while recording to the SSD?
We just provide the live cut as part of the deal. If you want to bring your own SSD, we can ISO the files and you can take the drive with you as you leave. IF you have the extreme atem with 2 usb-c outs, you can record to ssd and use riverside yes. But if we are using riverside, we do not typically also record to ssd.
@@TheStudioBusiness I see, that is insightful. I had some hiccups with riverside recently, either static/cut outs in the audio due to bad connection or really laggy/low frame rate video for some reason. Never had that happen before either. It wasn't fixable either so my clients weren't happy about that. I figured it would be nice to have backups for both in the future just in case but it seems difficult and expensive to do so.
I would love to know more about the lenses and focal lengths you use for interviews. Not many videos on youtube about that subject. How far away are the cameras from the subjects, different framing options, etc. I'm considering on getting a setup similar to yours but using zve10s (apsc).
Thanks for the great videos! How do you mitigate camera shake, with cameras mounted to a table that the producer is actively working at?? We built a similar megadesk! We thought that the arm mounts would dampen some of that but the shake seems to be pretty sensitive. Is it as simple as just having to use cameras with stabilization?
No, it's an unfortunate dilemma I didn't really shed enough light on in the video. Yes, they do shake. We have the in-body stabilization on and are careful to touch the desk as little as possible. The more boomed out they are, the worse it is. We rarely boom them out and if we do, it's often just in ISO mode and we don't do a live cut. Hopefully something will come along and help mitigate that more.
They aren't great, no. And I wouldn't use them for actual editing or color accuracy, but they work fine for what we use them for and are cheap. Arms are amzn.to/41yS90E
@@TheStudioBusiness thanks! Yeah I’m trying to find something that’s reasonably priced, that’ll give me a decent reference for light/color. Been plugging in my laptop every time I record to double check the image haha
Thank you! We have a cloud lifter, yes. But it's not completely needed. Just helps out and since we have the older rodecaster, it's sort of required for powering SM7Bs.
No, not a must. At the time, we only had the first gen rodecaster and the preamps weren’t quite as good as the v2 model. The cloud lifter helps get a better level without needing to crank gain. Not totally required tho!
I have a question. I know that the Rodecaster Pro 2 has a setting for the Shure SM7B and claims it doesn't require a cloud lifter. Why did you go ahead and purchase a multi-mic cloud lifter for your set up given that claim? Did you test it with and without the cloud lifter:? Thanks. (BTW, I produce larger scale streams and TV series but also make my own content. Enjoying your channel., New Sub).
I don’t think the cloud lifter is as needed if you have a 2nd gen rodecaster, at the time of recording we still were using our first gen and the preamps DID need the extra help it provided to power the Shure mics. Not a total requirement.
@@TheStudioBusiness Appreciate the clarification. I've been hearing so much about the Rodecaster2 that I just assumed that's what you were using. Thanks again for the great video. Keep em coming.
How exactly do you set the cameras up on standby? When recording, is everything controlled only through the ATEM? Do you have to record through the Rode Podcaster at the same time for it to work?
Standby is just them sitting before you hit record, no special setting. Just make sure they don't auto turn off. The cameras aren't controllable through the ATEM, no. All settings, cropping, iso, shutter etc is all done on camera. If you have Black Magic cameras, you actually CAN adjust some of those settings directly from the ATEM. If you use this setup, you wouldn't NEED to record on the rodecaster too, but it's a safe backup and records a higher quality file.
Yes, unfortunately you do need to be careful if you boom the arms out with shaking the desk. I should have mentioned this in the video. We still use them, but usually more folded. Hope someone comes along and makes something better.
Amazing video thanks! How you can feed 4k on atem? I am have a sony fx6 and I only can see it when I feed on ATEM Extreme Pro Iso at 1080p. Can you share your trick?
I maybe didn't explain it so well on the video, the atem can still only take in a 1080p feed which is set by the hdmi out settings on the camera -- BUT, if you put the cameras in 4k mode over 1080p (with the output locked still at 1080) it looks better than if the camera is just in 1080p mode. Idk why I took so long to realize that, but that's what we do to sort of get a higher quality image. So while still a 1080p image, having it in 4k looks noticeably better.
We don't. We've never lost a recording, but if something was to happen like loss of power or the harddrive crashes, It may be a problem and the session lost.
Do you have any visual issues regarding lightning? I see you're using a crop sensor camera with a full frame. I own Sony A7iv and want 2 more cameras but was afraid of getting crop sensors. However, they are less expensive
No big ones. They often sit between 600-1000 ISO which isn't great, but isn't causing any issues imo. One day we may opt for full frame, but for now, these work great. We do use a a7iii for the center camera as that's the only way we can get wide enough.
Trying to build a studio in my office for my personal use. Would I be able to just run ZVE10's on all camara and keep a crisp quality. Literally the price of 3 ZVE10 is almost the same as one of the FX30 with lense. I would like to build the most superb set with under $8k.
The one main issue is going to be the crop on smaller sensor cameras. It’ll be difficult to get a great wide shot without at least one full frame. That is unless you have tons of room. The other concern is overheating… I have not tested the zve10s at length, but the fx30s have fans that will allow for longer recording/idle time.
It's just the rode wireless go ii and they sell a fake mic grip like you see. The grip is just plastic and way overpriced, but you can buy it from them.
I currently use the a6000. How do I switch the camera over to 4k until I’m able to afford the fx30? And would I also need to upgrade my Elgato HD1080 to the 4K as well?
Monitors are cheap ones from amazon, I believe linked in the description. Computer isn't really needed with this setup, but we typically use my macbook pro.
Hello, Thanks so much for this. It is very helpful. I have been following your channel since your very first video. What I need your help with is how to set up my Canon Cameras to only act as cam on idle without recording into them. You did mention this at about 13:20 of this video. I currently record to a SSD drive attached to my Atem Mini Pro, but I am unsure as to how to set up my camera to just remain as feeder camera without recording into the cameras. Thanks
Thanks for watching! I'm assuming those cameras have a HDMI out. You'll just need to get a cable from those into normal HDMI for the atem. Then just make sure you have dummy batteries in the cameras so you don't have to worry about them dying. Then just make sure the cameras don't auto turn off and you should be set? If you're able to see the images on your atem pro multi-view and record, you should be capturing the video from the hdmi. Let me know if that helps!
The rodecaster had balanced 1/4th inch outs and you need a y cable to get from that to a single 1/8th inch for the atem. All of the sound from the rodecaster will come in on mic one.
I produce 6 podcasts but am live producing switching cameras via OBS and that puts out my final video file. Does this setup record all 3 camera angles separately or are you live cutting to each camera?
with this setup we typically live cut it yielding one video file, like you do in OBS. However, we do have the ability to record isolated video feeds from the 3-5 cameras.
Ok. So you have a very professional setup. Decoration, lighting, video setup... all good. But it blows my mind that your clients accept a stereo mix straight out of the Rodecaster into the Atem. So you can't edit the mic signals individually anymore, you have mic bleed from all the microphones in your stereo mix. Your Rodecaster records multitrack. Why won't you use that???
Fair point and I know this drives audio guys up a wall. Sometimes we do, but yes, we often just give clients a single stereo mix. A lot of our clients are just in it for the video and clips. Long form audio only isn't so important to them. Sometimes it is, and if so, we just flip the switch on the rodecaster and run that stemmed out.
@@daanothoff I know a podcast studio. It's customers do not want anything to do with separate files, be it audio nor video. They want to just come in, have a session, get the program file delivered to them for minimal editing (names and position), and proceed to post the podcast. You are coming in as a professional. But there is demand for a much simple process
@@FinancialFaiz That depends. I own a sound sound studio myself where we also record and produce podcasts. There are roughly 2 types of clients: 1 - Clients who need their podcast recorded but want to do the edit themselves. These clients get all the raw recorded material delivered. And that means of course that they get the multitrack audio so that they can properly edit. 2 - Clients who do not want to deal with anything, certainly not anything to do with editing. These clients come in to record the podcast and get the fully produced ready to air product delivered. However, to be able to deliver professional audio, you will need to do the audio edit and mix with the multitrack audio. If you work with a stereo mix coming out of the RCP you will not be able to properly mix, edit and process mic signals individually and def not be able to eliminate mic bleed. So depending on the client I do or do not deliver multitrack audio, but in NO case I will work with a stereo mix from the RCP to do my edit with. Now, of course some people will just not care or even know about the existence of mic bleed... but I hold myself to a very high standard, which includes individually editing mic signals and eliminating mic bleed, because that just results in a more professional sounding podcast in the end. It has little to do with "demand for a simple process" as the client is not involved in that process.
Just coming back to this video, do you feel that podcasting is now a significant part of your business income as it looks like you've turned most of your studio into podcasting
It's about 1/3rd of the pie at this point. I made the mistake of uploading videos like this on this channel. It's soon to be rebranded to only podcast/studio related content and Innova Digital will go live on a new channel (just waiting to finish our 2024 reel). The video production side of things is still the bigger business and I plan to return my efforts towards that as I have the ball rolling on this now and someone else to run most of it.
this is a great and simple setup. its too bad you lose 4k as well as the audio quality going this route. But for 99% of clients this is more then enough
Yes, I agree the lack of 4k support on more entry level black magic products is a bummer, but honestly it looks great and I think people would prefer the smaller files sizes. We do give them the raw audio from the rodecaster too, but I haven't really noticed a big different between the two audios (one from rodecaster and one from the atem)
There’s a problem that I’m facing.. Now when I’m live in the session I have my camera mirrored but once I get to see the recording I’m inverted as in (left to right) btw I’m using FaceTime HD Camera Plz I need some help
We may have the opportunity to do some give aways soon with some of the brands we are partnering with. I'll be sure to let you know more when that comes about!
I had the pleasure of working with Tom and Chicago Podcast Studio to build my studio in Atlanta, and it's been nothing short of amazing. From the initial design based on my space's layout to the selection of furniture and equipment, the process was seamless. In less than six months, we've hosted over 100 sessions without a single complaint, a testament to their expertise and attention to detail.
As someone who never even owned a camera, Tom's guidance was invaluable. He educated me on camera basics like aperture, ISO, and shutter speed, elevating my skills to a level that impresses other production teams. Our studio is now thriving, grossing up to $3k weekly.
Looking forward to expanding in 2024 with at least three sets, and we're excited to collaborate with Tom and Chicago Podcast Studio again. Their dedication and expertise are worth every penny, and we're even considering their premium package for the next project. Huge thanks to Tom and CPS for their exceptional service!
Kisean, thank you for that nice testimony and allowing us to bring your studio to life! I'm SO SO glad that your studio looks good, functions well and is producing income for you!! Looking forward to these new sets in 2024!
Thank you for this! Our studio in Bangkok was inspired by your original videos! Looking forward to more content like this and inevitably sharing our setup.
Looking forward to seeing that! Thanks for watching and glad it's helped.
I remember watching the original video,Glad the algo brought me back!!
Glad to have you back
@@TheStudioBusiness Can you make a video about how you got the funding to setup the studio and If you're not comfortable can you make a video about what you would do to raise money if you were starting from scratch and how much one will need to setup a studio like yours, rent, equipments and the whole nine yard.I want to open my own podcast studio and don't know how to go about the business plan and how to raise money. But i have the technical know how and i know i can manage a studio since i've been doing this for 15 plus years.
It blows my mind when video guys don't multitrack their audio
I just had my mind blown by the same thing. I saw how he was putting the audio straight from the Rodecaster's main stereo out to the Atem.... AND THATS IT??? Ok, so apparently no individual editing, no mic bleed editing..... WTF. Apart from the professional setup, that audio side of things is very unprofessional.
@@daanothoffcan you guys suggest what would you have done differently? I would love to hear more on this. Thanks!
@@UmamiSegrt In short, in the case of a podcast like this guy, probably this: After recording, import the video from the camera('s) + the multitrack audio from the Rodecaster into whatever video editing software you prefer. If you're using the Atem like this guy it would make sense to use Davinci Resolve because you can import your Resolve file straight from the Atem which includes angle switches that you did on the go. Edit the video as you please synced with the multitrack audio. When finished export the edited multitrack audio as an AAF or OMF file and import into a DAW (I use Pro Tools). Edit and process the individual audio tracks here, mix tot the proper levels and put some end bus processing. Export the mix, import into Resolve and lay under the video. Export the video with the new audio mix. Done.
Now, I know Resolve (and other video editing software) do have audio editing/processing capabilities. But I am an audio guy so I would prefer to work with audio in a DAW. Not a video editor. But I'm sure it can get the job done too...
@@daanothoffthank you so much for the detailed answer!
@@daanothoffdon't underestimate fairlight for most people resolve has all the audio tools needed.
Thank you for sharing the ins and outs of a video podcast production. This is the most thorough and concise explanation on RUclips 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
The amount of vital information you shared in this video is insane!! Thank you so much. For the life of me I couldn’t figure out how to get over recording pass 30 minutes without my camera either overheating or dying 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Took a lot of tinkering to get it set for me too. Glad the info was helpful =)
I’ve loved what you have done over the past few years. Super helpful and looking forward to seeing where this goes for you and your team. Props!
I'm so fired up to try to build mine here in France based on your amazing work ! Thanks for sharing this much value man
You got this! Let me know how it goes!
Great video. Do you use any LUTS for the video footage?
Nope, the cameras for the podcast run in pp0. I do colorgrade the overall footage before upload.
Thanks so much for this, and you're my inspiration for building my own podcast studio.
I'm planning on 2 sets and have a Mega Desk also 😂 one set is a rolling table for up to 4 participants and the other set will be more intimate for 2. Size wise its 26x15' and plan to rotate the Mega desk 180⁰ depending on the set being used. 3 FF Canon cameras, and using the Rodecaster Pro 2 in tandem with the Atem mini pro ISO.
Hopefully it will be enough to start.
For editing, do you think I can upload to Riverside and use their AI editing tools to get a decent result?
Hey David, glad the videos have been helpful! Yes, Riverside offers great editing tools and that would for sure get you started and maybe the only thing you need. We typically edit in Premiere, but it's probably not needed.
Great video and much appreciated, good work with your studio keep them coming
I also set-up my 4 person studio conf table style almost identical to the first studio tour video you posted some time ago. Now I’m adding another set and will likely replicate much of the same with the furniture. Awesome to see you doing so well from when you started and your info was super helpful- thanks for sharing. I went with LUMIX S5iix instead of the fx30’s and the full frame in a tighter spaces has allowed us to have a much smaller footprint with roughly the same cost as the Sony’s. Looking forward to more videos in the (hopefully near this time) future!
Thanks for continuing to watch! Yes, I let this year get away from me, but I'm hoping to pick it back up and get on a more regular cadence for 2024. Glad it's been helpful to you!
Great followup video. We built our podcast recording studio based on the first video you released, which was super helpful. Thank you. The one area we are still trying to iron out is the quality of audio from the Rodecaster to the ATEM mini. We have the same cable you referred to and the mic input on the ATEM set to line. This takes care of the noise issue. However the audio recorded internally on the rodecaster seems to be higher quality then the audio we are getting when it is sent to the ATEM. I'm wondering if you ever any issues going from a balanced output (rodecaster) to an unbalanced input (ATEM). Also, how do you deal with audio delay/drift? Looking forward to the next video!
Thanks for the comment and glad the videos have helped! I've noticed that the audio from the atem (directly from the rodecaster) isn't 100% the same and I'd lean towards slightly worse, but to me it's a negligible difference (to my ears). That's why we give clients the audio too in case they want to use that. We do not have drift problems surprisingly.
@@TheStudioBusiness Glad to hear its not just me, thank you so much for taking the time to comment back!
This is an awesome content! Thanks for sharing it with us, I'm creating my podcast/interview studio in Peru and this is very helpful. Very thanks!
Hello, thank you very much for the video.
It's incredible.
I just have one question!
I connect the Rodecaster Pro to the Atem Mini, but the cameras don't change by themselves through sound? Does it have to be manually?
Curious with this setup, I’m assuming you’re only getting 1080p out of the switcher?
Great studio!
I’m just starting my podcast, and this is inspiring
RESPECT! ✊🏾
Great video- We set up our studio by watching your previous videos. Thank you so much!
Hey bruh…you included links for all your equipment except the (video) monitor arms. I’m in desperate need and yours look perfect in every way. Please let me know where 🙏🏾 thanks!
HUANUO single monitor mount on Amazon. 13-32 inch screen.
HI. What an informative video; your studios are beautiful with a smart technical workflow. I'd like to ask, what are the individual sizes of each studio in your collection?
Thank you! Most of the spaces are maybe 80-200sqft. The set featured most in this video is probably 20x15 or so.
how close is the camera to the talent with a max 28mm lens on the A7III? Seems like that would still be pretty wide. Is there a link where we can see one of the podcasts and what the different shots look like on this setup?
The center camera (a7iii) is a 17-28 tamron. Use often use it fully wide when doing groups of 4. The fx30 side cameras have a 28-70 full frame lens (so it has a zoom crop) and we typically have that in 35-50mm. I believe I show example of the different shots at various times in the video, mostly at the start or camera section.
What about real-time redundancies for video and audio capture? Everything just going to a single drive with no simultaneous (if even individualized) backups?
It’s a gamble we play with. After about 1000 sessions, we’ve never had a failure of the drive or files corrupted. 🤞
The audio is also be saved to the mixer itself*
In terms of quality will the A7III be superb to a crop sensor camara like ZVE10?
Great stuff I am inspired for our upcoming studio build. My question is does the ATEM record each camera feed separately or at least can it? I ask because I am a one man show so I produce, host and edit all the content. So when I am actually hosting the podcast I can't be focused on Switching cams and such. So we have some good Canon DSLRs that I love but they have the 30min record limit so I also thought of using a video switcher but I want to be able to edit each camera feed after the fact. Just curious. Great video and very well done loved the editing and great ad integration.
Thanks, Logan! Appreciate the props for the ad integration lol.
Get an ATEM Mini Pro ISO -- The ISO option will allow you to record the isolated files for all cameras. If you buy the other cheaper units, you won't be able to do that. This route you do not need to record in-camera.
Tom this is a great video! Thank you for being so thorough in sharing how you went about building it through. I have a podcast studio that I have built out in Austin, TX. We're creating a second studio with a room next door and excited to implement the lighting tricks you've shown here.
Question:
I use the ATEM Mini Pro ISO to record using two Sony A7SIII's and a Sony A7III. The file sizes in the Video ISO Folder are substantially big. How do you go about sending these massive files?
Yea i'm not sure what happens when you do ISO recordings but what would be a 10gb file turns into 70+ when you record 3 cameras, which doesn't add up to me. We rarely, if ever, hand over those files without a drive being supplied by client or transferring on-site. In the case we need to, we just bite the bullet and upload to google drive or dropbox and just let it take ages. Glad the videos have helped you out!
Hey buddy, I tried doing the same, with the camera being on an arm on the desk, but if someone were to sit at the Mega Desk and switch the camera on the switcher or even a slight knock to the table would shake the cameras, don’t you go through the same bro?
Yes, you are correct that it’s not perfect and I should have been more forthcoming about that drawback. If they are boomed out, the shake is quite noticeable, if they are collapsed on top of each other (the arms) it’s really not a big issue but being careful not the bump the table is still needed. I wish the arms did a better job absorbing bumps. I’d still prefer this with the limitations over doing tripods and more cables tho!
Great informative video! What software program do you use to record and bring all the streams together? Is that through the Black Magic switcher?
Yes, built into the switcher. It has hdmi out and that will show the multi-view. Records straight to a hard drive from the unit.
Congratulations! Great video, very well produced, and I picked up some incredible tips for my own studio! Have subscribed, and I look forward to more
great videos from you!
Thanks for the sub!
I have all u have and more but need some space where I can lease it out.. great motivation video
Yea you don't need a ton of space, especially just for one set, but our studio only 1100sqft and we make the most of it!
What "wireless" Mic are you using on this video? The audio is fantastic.
It's the rode wireless go II I believe? The handle is just the fake plastic one to hold the transmitter.
I Absolutely appreciate your channel!! Great Information
I appreciate that!
Amazing video, thank you! Do you need to set the fx30 to record in 4k before plugging in the hdmi cable into the ATEM?
We do, yes. If you put the camera in 4k mode, it'll look better (from the hdmi output) than if it was set to 1080p. You will need to set your hdmi output to 1080p though or else the atem won't recognize the signal.
Have you had any problems with the cameras being on the boom arms? Like wobbling. Does the table need to be very sturdy?
Yea, I didn't mention it, but if they are in the boomed out position, they can slightly wobble if you bump the table or sometimes as little as just hitting the buttons on the atem. So we rarely boom out, and if we do, we be extra careful.
Very interesting video, I tried to set our studio up the way you described. Just one thing I didn’t quite understand yet. Isn’t it, that the Atem Mini Extreme can’t output 4K quality? Wouldn’t the cameras be quite overpowered or am I doing something wrong with either BMD or the camera settings?
Yea black magic atem is 1080p locked output wise. But you can put the cameras in 4k mode in idle and (still 1080p out via hdmi) but that will give you more of a downsampled 4k look.
We also could, if we wanted to, record internally on the cameras in studio or elsewhere. Cheaper cameras could work all the same but we like the fx30s
This video was absolutely incredible
This is gold
Dude thanks for this! So excited to be building out my future studio definitely taking a lot of this to heart
What setting did you do for shooting the video? Was it shot in Log3? Anymore details? Love the video. I also wonder how stable the bar is on the wall.
Cameras are in PP0 or no picture profile. That way the most color is coming through right out the gate. Not sure what bar you are referring so, but the ones that go across the pipes and support the lighting, yes are secure, they are typically tension rods, but we mounted them with heavy duty clamps.
Mind blown!! I believe you just solved my biggest problem. Please correct me if I misunderstood your cameras are on all your settings are set but you never hit record on the camera. You do everything through the ATM, mini pro extreme and the SSD is that correct?
Love your content keep it up
Yep! That's the trick - they never record, they just sit in standby and the atem rips the hdmi feed to record from. Thanks for watching!
Just recorded a podcast last weekend, and the workflow worked great. However, when we were setting up, we had a tremendous amount of bleed over between the mics, and I followed the rule where you keep the one Mike polar pattern opposite from the other mics pattern and I had enough, but there shouldn’t of been bleed over any thoughts
Great setup mate. What software are you using for the recording?
No software! The atem switcher does the recording straight to an SSD.
@@TheStudioBusiness I've never thought about that. I have been recording with OBS and noticing some lags between audio and video sync.
I have an Atem mini pro. I'll try that and see how it goes.
I’ve been expecting this updateeee 🎉🎉
And here it is! Thanks for watching.
Hi, you can control de Atem not only búa usb c, you can control the Atem by the UTP conexión you have in the black conecte to your computer or if your computer and your Atem are in the same network enviroment.
You know, I looked into that, and was just not able to make it work. They way we move the desk around, it wasn't easily attached into the network and so I just ditched that method. Good idea for others to look into though!
Thanks for the detailed info!
Pro tip: If you dont need shallow DOF on your wide, get a ax700 for your next camera. That way you have more zoom options with it and dont need to buy more lenses.
We have someone in our group that uses AX700s. Yea I don't see them being a problem, we just have DSLRs here so it made the most sense.
I was thinking of starting a podcast studio love the three studio set up giving podcaster options. Are the cameras on the mobile studio only cameras in use?
Mostly, we have another 2 cameras we use for other content that sometimes are used in the setup. Especially if we have groups of 3-4 in, we bring out another camera.
Would you be able to provide a ballpark value/ total cost of the studio equipment you shared? Not including soundproofing and furnishings.
$12-17k seems about right. For the the core gear. Maybe not with all of the sets included.
Nice studio 💯💯🎯🎯🎯🎯 Great Camera Setup.
Thanks!!
Great information and very inspirational. But you left out one thing I really want to get for the studio I am building. At 0:21 / 19:01 you have a metalic object on the wall. Do you sell that, and if so, I want to buy one, but if not can you tell me where I can find it for sale? I am nowhere near your level of sophistication, but I aspire to get there. Thank you.
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You said that you record the video files to the SSD and then give that to the client. Are you only giving them the live cut or also the individual files as well?
Do you also record using Riverside while recording to the SSD?
We just provide the live cut as part of the deal. If you want to bring your own SSD, we can ISO the files and you can take the drive with you as you leave. IF you have the extreme atem with 2 usb-c outs, you can record to ssd and use riverside yes. But if we are using riverside, we do not typically also record to ssd.
@@TheStudioBusiness I see, that is insightful.
I had some hiccups with riverside recently, either static/cut outs in the audio due to bad connection or really laggy/low frame rate video for some reason. Never had that happen before either. It wasn't fixable either so my clients weren't happy about that. I figured it would be nice to have backups for both in the future just in case but it seems difficult and expensive to do so.
I would love to know more about the lenses and focal lengths you use for interviews. Not many videos on youtube about that subject. How far away are the cameras from the subjects, different framing options, etc. I'm considering on getting a setup similar to yours but using zve10s (apsc).
Thanks for your input, Carlos! I'll consider adding this to an upcoming video.
Looking forward! I want to get fixed focal lenses for budget reasons. And was wondering what you mostly use from that table setup. 🔔
Thanks for the great videos!
How do you mitigate camera shake, with cameras mounted to a table that the producer is actively working at??
We built a similar megadesk! We thought that the arm mounts would dampen some of that but the shake seems to be pretty sensitive.
Is it as simple as just having to use cameras with stabilization?
No, it's an unfortunate dilemma I didn't really shed enough light on in the video. Yes, they do shake. We have the in-body stabilization on and are careful to touch the desk as little as possible. The more boomed out they are, the worse it is. We rarely boom them out and if we do, it's often just in ISO mode and we don't do a live cut. Hopefully something will come along and help mitigate that more.
Where did you buy your hair lights from (pink)? Thanks for giving me ideas to improve my studio.
Amaran T2c tubes. They can be any color! They should be linked in the description.
Excellent video!!
Thank you! Cheers!
How do you like the Sceptre Monitors and how do they fair with color/image accuracy? Also what monitor arms are you using?
They aren't great, no. And I wouldn't use them for actual editing or color accuracy, but they work fine for what we use them for and are cheap. Arms are amzn.to/41yS90E
@@TheStudioBusiness thanks! Yeah I’m trying to find something that’s reasonably priced, that’ll give me a decent reference for light/color. Been plugging in my laptop every time I record to double check the image haha
Fantastic video. but I do have a question, do you have to have the cloud lifter or can you get by without out?
Thank you! We have a cloud lifter, yes. But it's not completely needed. Just helps out and since we have the older rodecaster, it's sort of required for powering SM7Bs.
Hi thanks for the video I just want to ask is that cloudlighter a must? Can I just pug the mic directly into the Rode?
No, not a must. At the time, we only had the first gen rodecaster and the preamps weren’t quite as good as the v2 model. The cloud lifter helps get a better level without needing to crank gain. Not totally required tho!
I truly enjoyed watching this video. What is the total expense to set a podcast studio like yours?
Office expenses not included. Just the equipments
Glad you enjoyed! Sort of lost count, but I’d guesstimate between around 20k?
Thanks for video! What brand is your mega desk?
Husky!
This was a great breakdown! Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Great studio and great ideas here
The magnets on the plates on the updated Elgato boom arms are much stronger. This newer model is available now
I just did a build the other day and noticed that they did indeed upgrade them. Much needed!
I have a question. I know that the Rodecaster Pro 2 has a setting for the Shure SM7B and claims it doesn't require a cloud lifter. Why did you go ahead and purchase a multi-mic cloud lifter for your set up given that claim? Did you test it with and without the cloud lifter:? Thanks. (BTW, I produce larger scale streams and TV series but also make my own content. Enjoying your channel., New Sub).
I don’t think the cloud lifter is as needed if you have a 2nd gen rodecaster, at the time of recording we still were using our first gen and the preamps DID need the extra help it provided to power the Shure mics. Not a total requirement.
@@TheStudioBusiness Appreciate the clarification. I've been hearing so much about the Rodecaster2 that I just assumed that's what you were using. Thanks again for the great video. Keep em coming.
How exactly do you set the cameras up on standby? When recording, is everything controlled only through the ATEM? Do you have to record through the Rode Podcaster at the same time for it to work?
Standby is just them sitting before you hit record, no special setting. Just make sure they don't auto turn off. The cameras aren't controllable through the ATEM, no. All settings, cropping, iso, shutter etc is all done on camera. If you have Black Magic cameras, you actually CAN adjust some of those settings directly from the ATEM. If you use this setup, you wouldn't NEED to record on the rodecaster too, but it's a safe backup and records a higher quality file.
i literally love ur content man , i pretymuch enjoy it☺
Would be helpful if you could share the audio cable used for rodcaster to atem mini 😊
Does the two side cameras shake when you leaning on your desk?
Yes, unfortunately you do need to be careful if you boom the arms out with shaking the desk. I should have mentioned this in the video. We still use them, but usually more folded. Hope someone comes along and makes something better.
Amazing video thanks! How you can feed 4k on atem? I am have a sony fx6 and I only can see it when I feed on ATEM Extreme Pro Iso at 1080p. Can you share your trick?
I maybe didn't explain it so well on the video, the atem can still only take in a 1080p feed which is set by the hdmi out settings on the camera -- BUT, if you put the cameras in 4k mode over 1080p (with the output locked still at 1080) it looks better than if the camera is just in 1080p mode. Idk why I took so long to realize that, but that's what we do to sort of get a higher quality image. So while still a 1080p image, having it in 4k looks noticeably better.
What do you do for redundancy during recording? Have you ever lost a podcast?
We don't. We've never lost a recording, but if something was to happen like loss of power or the harddrive crashes, It may be a problem and the session lost.
Not sure If I have missed this, but what are you using to actually run all of this? Do you use a laptop or using a computer for it all?
Yes we have a laptop we pair it with when needed but this setup can run entirely without a laptop as long as you aren’t streaming.
@@TheStudioBusiness thanks !
Do you have any visual issues regarding lightning? I see you're using a crop sensor camera with a full frame. I own Sony A7iv and want 2 more cameras but was afraid of getting crop sensors. However, they are less expensive
No big ones. They often sit between 600-1000 ISO which isn't great, but isn't causing any issues imo. One day we may opt for full frame, but for now, these work great. We do use a a7iii for the center camera as that's the only way we can get wide enough.
@TheStudioBusiness Cool, I was thinking of following your model and use the A7iv for the wide and 2 crops for the close ups. Thanks for responding! 🙌🏾
Mega desk 🔥🔥🔥
Trying to build a studio in my office for my personal use. Would I be able to just run ZVE10's on all camara and keep a crisp quality. Literally the price of 3 ZVE10 is almost the same as one of the FX30 with lense. I would like to build the most superb set with under $8k.
The one main issue is going to be the crop on smaller sensor cameras. It’ll be difficult to get a great wide shot without at least one full frame. That is unless you have tons of room.
The other concern is overheating… I have not tested the zve10s at length, but the fx30s have fans that will allow for longer recording/idle time.
Amazing content we need more ❤
Great vid! what is the mic u are using at 15:18? Couldnt find a wireless rode mic like that anywhere
It's just the rode wireless go ii and they sell a fake mic grip like you see. The grip is just plastic and way overpriced, but you can buy it from them.
what podcast hosting upload service do you recommend for beginners?
We use Spotify for Podcasters for most clients. It'll upload to multiple locations.
Great information! Thank you.
What software are you using to look at multiple cameras at the same time?
Built into the atem. No software needed.
@@TheStudioBusiness thank you!
Awesome video!
Does Riverside also work for an in-person inteview of 2 ppl?
It does! You can record directly to Riverside with two people in the same location.
I currently use the a6000. How do I switch the camera over to 4k until I’m able to afford the fx30? And would I also need to upgrade my Elgato HD1080 to the 4K as well?
A6000 won’t do 4k unfortunately. Only 1080p.
@@TheStudioBusiness thanks for the response. I appreciate it.
What type of monitor and computer do you use??
Monitors are cheap ones from amazon, I believe linked in the description. Computer isn't really needed with this setup, but we typically use my macbook pro.
How do you use A7III for recording podcasts if it has a 30 min record limit? Do you just press record every 30 minute or you have any other technique?
Cameras are never recording! We just take the feed from the hdmi out (that has no time lock) and that runs into the atem and records from there.
@@TheStudioBusiness Oh, right... That makes sense. But then you don't have backup recordings on SD cards.
Great job 👏
Hello,
Thanks so much for this. It is very helpful. I have been following your channel since your very first video.
What I need your help with is how to set up my Canon Cameras to only act as cam on idle without recording into them. You did mention this at about 13:20 of this video.
I currently record to a SSD drive attached to my Atem Mini Pro, but I am unsure as to how to set up my camera to just remain as feeder camera without recording into the cameras.
Thanks
My cameras are Canon M50, Canon 80D (main), and Canon SL3 (250D)
Thanks for watching! I'm assuming those cameras have a HDMI out. You'll just need to get a cable from those into normal HDMI for the atem. Then just make sure you have dummy batteries in the cameras so you don't have to worry about them dying. Then just make sure the cameras don't auto turn off and you should be set? If you're able to see the images on your atem pro multi-view and record, you should be capturing the video from the hdmi. Let me know if that helps!
Great video!! Can the ATEM export a session file for Premiere Pro?
From what I know, no. It can spit out a davinci resolve file though.
Can you use an iphone instead of the fx30 with the same setup?
My guess is yes, but it would probably not be the best route. Not sure what can be done to get an HDMI feed out of a Iphone.
Nice thank you
In studio 1 do you have a link for the rock looking wall cover?
It's a home depot product. Search Glacier 3d wall panel -- you'll find it.
Do you have a link for the 1/4 inch converted to 1/8 inch? Ive heard that the wrong cable will give off a static in the audio feed.
This is what we used www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K59CQ3R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
How do you connect the audio from the Rodecaster in 1/4” to the ATEM in 1/8” if the rodecaster has 4 jacks and the ATEM only has 2 jacks?
The rodecaster had balanced 1/4th inch outs and you need a y cable to get from that to a single 1/8th inch for the atem. All of the sound from the rodecaster will come in on mic one.
I produce 6 podcasts but am live producing switching cameras via OBS and that puts out my final video file. Does this setup record all 3 camera angles separately or are you live cutting to each camera?
with this setup we typically live cut it yielding one video file, like you do in OBS. However, we do have the ability to record isolated video feeds from the 3-5 cameras.
The ISO versions of the Atem series do both. They can record your live switching plus each video stream separately.
Haha. "...don't tell the Fire Ddepartment..." - right before the Fire Ddepartment subscribes anyway 😂😂
shhhhhh!
Ok. So you have a very professional setup. Decoration, lighting, video setup... all good. But it blows my mind that your clients accept a stereo mix straight out of the Rodecaster into the Atem. So you can't edit the mic signals individually anymore, you have mic bleed from all the microphones in your stereo mix. Your Rodecaster records multitrack. Why won't you use that???
Fair point and I know this drives audio guys up a wall. Sometimes we do, but yes, we often just give clients a single stereo mix. A lot of our clients are just in it for the video and clips. Long form audio only isn't so important to them. Sometimes it is, and if so, we just flip the switch on the rodecaster and run that stemmed out.
@@TheStudioBusiness Ok, that makes a lot more sense. Still would not be my way to go, but sure. I can see how this would be acceptable.
@@daanothoff I know a podcast studio. It's customers do not want anything to do with separate files, be it audio nor video. They want to just come in, have a session, get the program file delivered to them for minimal editing (names and position), and proceed to post the podcast.
You are coming in as a professional. But there is demand for a much simple process
@@FinancialFaiz That depends. I own a sound sound studio myself where we also record and produce podcasts. There are roughly 2 types of clients:
1 - Clients who need their podcast recorded but want to do the edit themselves. These clients get all the raw recorded material delivered. And that means of course that they get the multitrack audio so that they can properly edit.
2 - Clients who do not want to deal with anything, certainly not anything to do with editing. These clients come in to record the podcast and get the fully produced ready to air product delivered. However, to be able to deliver professional audio, you will need to do the audio edit and mix with the multitrack audio. If you work with a stereo mix coming out of the RCP you will not be able to properly mix, edit and process mic signals individually and def not be able to eliminate mic bleed.
So depending on the client I do or do not deliver multitrack audio, but in NO case I will work with a stereo mix from the RCP to do my edit with. Now, of course some people will just not care or even know about the existence of mic bleed... but I hold myself to a very high standard, which includes individually editing mic signals and eliminating mic bleed, because that just results in a more professional sounding podcast in the end. It has little to do with "demand for a simple process" as the client is not involved in that process.
Just coming back to this video, do you feel that podcasting is now a significant part of your business income as it looks like you've turned most of your studio into podcasting
It's about 1/3rd of the pie at this point. I made the mistake of uploading videos like this on this channel. It's soon to be rebranded to only podcast/studio related content and Innova Digital will go live on a new channel (just waiting to finish our 2024 reel). The video production side of things is still the bigger business and I plan to return my efforts towards that as I have the ball rolling on this now and someone else to run most of it.
@@TheStudioBusiness thanks for the reply, looking forward to future videos.
Where are the rgb lights mounted on the cieling from in the larger set?
If they are the tube lights they are amaran t2c. Square ones are neewer rgb panels. Not sure exact name.
What was used to mount them?
this is a great and simple setup. its too bad you lose 4k as well as the audio quality going this route. But for 99% of clients this is more then enough
Yes, I agree the lack of 4k support on more entry level black magic products is a bummer, but honestly it looks great and I think people would prefer the smaller files sizes. We do give them the raw audio from the rodecaster too, but I haven't really noticed a big different between the two audios (one from rodecaster and one from the atem)
There’s a problem that I’m facing..
Now when I’m live in the session I have my camera mirrored but once I get to see the recording I’m inverted as in (left to right) btw I’m using FaceTime HD Camera
Plz I need some help
It's common to see the video flipped initially on facetime or RUclips live, but the actual recording should be correct once it's done?
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Can you support this upcoming podcaster with any equipment you could possibly not using...if yes I appreciate and thanks for the good ideas
We may have the opportunity to do some give aways soon with some of the brands we are partnering with. I'll be sure to let you know more when that comes about!
@@TheStudioBusiness appreciate the reply 💯💯😌 W
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