David, Ford certainly took a lot of time to get the Bronco back in production. Their market analysis determined it was worthwhile to offer 2 and 4 door models as well as automatic and manual transmissions across a wide price range. I wonder if this will inspire Toyota to do the same. 🤔
If i was gonna do some rock crawling with the guys, id use the Bronco. If i was taking the family on a offroad trail adventure then definitely the Land Cruiser
I much prefer the drive-train in Toyota's 95% of the time, but the form factor of the Bronco is hard to beat. Sadly, you can't always have your cake and eat it too unless you build something from scratch it feels like. Also for the record, Im a sucker for the nostalgic Landcruiser-ness that is the Landcruiser.
David, you really brought home an important point: the Land Cruiser 250 doesn’t really have an offroad package. Yes, they’ve included a rear locker and swaybar disconnect, but they limited the ground clearance, and once again require owners to modify a vehicle that should come stock in a high clearance version. We’ll see how the new 4Runner shakes out.
Fun fact: The engineers at Toyota and Lexus used an optimal ride height, for maximum articulation and suspension travel, for optimal off road performance. It is why the Lexus GX 550 Overtrail model was also not lifted higher than other models on the GX550 lineup. Lifts and bigger tires reduce suspension travel and articulation, which leads to reduced off road performance, due to reduced traction from wheel lifting. Given how off road capable even the base Land Cruiser is, and the offroad technology they all have, i'm not sure what more you need Toyota to pile on, to be considered "offroad package" lol. They are all offroad capable and top models have Toyota's best offroad features
@@lunamaria1048 Fun fact #2 - you've obviously watched a lot of RUclips videos, but never actually been offroad when low ground clearance causes the vehicle to get hung up on ground obstacles. Toyota could have engineered the vehicle with more ground clearance - Jeep managed to do it in 2007 when the Wrangler shipped with 32" tires stock and 10" of ground clearance.
@@AndrewMcDonald My father worked for Toyota for 17 years, and has always advised me in my choices when modifying my Toyota 4x4s for trail us, over the 14 years I have been driving. Toyota has 75 years of experience making the best 4x4s of all time. Also, during an expo, I had the chance to ask a Lexus GX550 engineer why the Overtrail was not lifted compared to other models, and he best explained to me, and I learned a lot from his answer. It is sitting at the optimal ride height to maximize suspension travel and articulation, which is needed to help keep tires on the ground, to maintain the best traction. The LC is built to be marketed to markets in Earth's most rugged, hostile regions, in Africa, Middle East, Asia, and Australia. Only in North America are 3" lifts and 37"+ tires thought to increase performance of a midsized 4x4😊.
@@lunamaria1048 Well, there's a big difference between someone's engineering explanations, and actual experience on the ground. Clearance is what gets you over obstacles, suspension travel helps you maintain traction. I highly recommend you get yourself a 4x4 and experiment with various off-road terrain to learn more about the physical world. Good luck!
I presume the LC is more in it's element on trails. It's appearance ain't so appealing on the freeway. The Lexus GX 550 does however appear striking in the city and highways and also probably more so off roading. Just waiting for the hybrid GX.
I am sorry to break the heart of many land cruiser fans but in my opinion latest 300 and 250 land cruisers are a step backwards in terms of quality. I loved the 200 landcruiser with the V8 but now i would pick the Nissan Patrol in a heartbeat.
Hi david! Have you heard of any rumors of new dedicated off-roaders coming to the USA? Lc300? Y61 patrol? (Obviously not those two but I looooove the Y61, and I know Nissans needs an off-roader!) Also how do you feel about the new armada pro-4x as it would naturally be Lc300s competition?
I’d take the Bronco and solely for the reason of Toyota trying to shove battery powered vehicles on us. We want options. My current and previous truck are Toyotas so I’m not a trolling hater.
I'm so sorry for the audio issue we had on this specific video. Somehow the microphone wasn't working that day....
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I like the interior of the Land Cruiser much, much better.
David, Ford certainly took a lot of time to get the Bronco back in production. Their market analysis determined it was worthwhile to offer 2 and 4 door models as well as automatic and manual transmissions across a wide price range. I wonder if this will inspire Toyota to do the same. 🤔
LC all day
If i was gonna do some rock crawling with the guys, id use the Bronco. If i was taking the family on a offroad trail adventure then definitely the Land Cruiser
The bronco is more capable offroad and Toyota no longer has the reliability badge. Their vehicles have just as much problems as their competitors
The interior of the Bronco is meant to get dirty and easy to clean
GX 550 Overtrail makes the most sense to me. Best value per dollar IMHO.
This ^! For the price of a top line LandCruiser I would get the GX550 Overtrail also.
I much prefer the drive-train in Toyota's 95% of the time, but the form factor of the Bronco is hard to beat.
Sadly, you can't always have your cake and eat it too unless you build something from scratch it feels like.
Also for the record, Im a sucker for the nostalgic Landcruiser-ness that is the Landcruiser.
This one’s easy, LC.
David, you really brought home an important point: the Land Cruiser 250 doesn’t really have an offroad package. Yes, they’ve included a rear locker and swaybar disconnect, but they limited the ground clearance, and once again require owners to modify a vehicle that should come stock in a high clearance version. We’ll see how the new 4Runner shakes out.
Fun fact: The engineers at Toyota and Lexus used an optimal ride height, for maximum articulation and suspension travel, for optimal off road performance. It is why the Lexus GX 550 Overtrail model was also not lifted higher than other models on the GX550 lineup. Lifts and bigger tires reduce suspension travel and articulation, which leads to reduced off road performance, due to reduced traction from wheel lifting. Given how off road capable even the base Land Cruiser is, and the offroad technology they all have, i'm not sure what more you need Toyota to pile on, to be considered "offroad package" lol. They are all offroad capable and top models have Toyota's best offroad features
@@lunamaria1048 Fun Fact - Toyota added a 1" lift to the 2025 GX Overtrail. So...hmmm
@@lunamaria1048 Fun fact #2 - you've obviously watched a lot of RUclips videos, but never actually been offroad when low ground clearance causes the vehicle to get hung up on ground obstacles. Toyota could have engineered the vehicle with more ground clearance - Jeep managed to do it in 2007 when the Wrangler shipped with 32" tires stock and 10" of ground clearance.
@@AndrewMcDonald My father worked for Toyota for 17 years, and has always advised me in my choices when modifying my Toyota 4x4s for trail us, over the 14 years I have been driving. Toyota has 75 years of experience making the best 4x4s of all time. Also, during an expo, I had the chance to ask a Lexus GX550 engineer why the Overtrail was not lifted compared to other models, and he best explained to me, and I learned a lot from his answer. It is sitting at the optimal ride height to maximize suspension travel and articulation, which is needed to help keep tires on the ground, to maintain the best traction. The LC is built to be marketed to markets in Earth's most rugged, hostile regions, in Africa, Middle East, Asia, and Australia. Only in North America are 3" lifts and 37"+ tires thought to increase performance of a midsized 4x4😊.
@@lunamaria1048 Well, there's a big difference between someone's engineering explanations, and actual experience on the ground. Clearance is what gets you over obstacles, suspension travel helps you maintain traction. I highly recommend you get yourself a 4x4 and experiment with various off-road terrain to learn more about the physical world. Good luck!
Hi David 😊greetings from South Africa 🇿🇦
I think Ford is missing some serious sales numbers here in North America by not importing or building a left hand drive Ford Everest SUV
fair review TY!
I presume the LC is more in it's element on trails. It's appearance ain't so appealing on the freeway. The Lexus GX 550 does however appear striking in the city and highways and also probably more so off roading. Just waiting for the hybrid GX.
I am sorry to break the heart of many land cruiser fans but in my opinion latest 300 and 250 land cruisers are a step backwards in terms of quality. I loved the 200 landcruiser with the V8 but now i would pick the Nissan Patrol in a heartbeat.
I absolutely love my 250 coming from a 200 series
Nissans are junk
@@noctilucent7396 Since you owned the 200 Series, how is 250 better? Thank you!
Thank you! I just purchased a 1958 today. What wheel and tire combo did you buy, stock has to go! From San Antonio happy holidays.
did your landcruiser tire stick out with a spacer ?
It's because I chose a very aggressive offset...
Love your content but the audio quality is terrible. Please improve your audio recording. Thanks
Yes I am aware of the audio issue we had on this video.. .the mic wasn't working that day. Sorry about that!
Hi david! Have you heard of any rumors of new dedicated off-roaders coming to the USA? Lc300? Y61 patrol? (Obviously not those two but I looooove the Y61, and I know Nissans needs an off-roader!) Also how do you feel about the new armada pro-4x as it would naturally be Lc300s competition?
You'd think an offroad vehicle would have thick paint - especially where mother nature is likely to hand out pinstripes.
to say that lc is ment for street use, is shocking, this boy can go anywhere
Did you lift the land cruiser.
Reliability is number 1 for me not gadgets LC
Bronco is more fit for purpose. LC is just another SUV.
I’d take the Bronco and solely for the reason of Toyota trying to shove battery powered vehicles on us. We want options. My current and previous truck are Toyotas so I’m not a trolling hater.
At least Toyota hasn’t gone to plastic oil/trans pans 😂
Everyone in favor of battery powered vehicles ought to visit a lithium mine.
You can thank the govt not Toyota for that.
@@UporaFilms The government is funded by We the People via taxation thereby making the supine public complicit.
@@UporaFilms Americans fund the government making them complicit.
He said Bronco is more capable than the Wrangler lol.
Bronco all day. Keep the land cruiser