🐻 10MM Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 4.6" Full Review...Alaska Bear Defense Worthy or No⁉️
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- Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 10mm Full Review.
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I don't think any gun should be taken to the range before cleaning and oiling the firearm. I know a lot of people do but I always clean and lube a new firearm before I fire it and I have good results. Thanks for the video.
Best practice for sure. Thanks for watching
Glock recommends shooting it out of the box WITHOUT cleaning before hand according to break in . Source : I’m a certified Glock armorer
@@vic2796 that is fine but if I ever were to purchase a Glock I would not feel comfortable taking a new firearm to the range without a clean and lube. I'm sorry but I do not believe that is a good recommendation from Glock.
@@keithtate1241 and that’s completely ok! I’m sure it won’t hurt at all!
@@keithtate1241 it is important for the reliability of some firearms. Glock uses antisieze which is a mild abrasive to lubricate from the factory. It completes the final honing of the metal on metal parts, knocking off any burrs etc. Almost all these polymer guns use stamped parts inset into polymer and the wear surfaces need to be smoothed out for reliability. Source: former machinist at major firearms manufacturer.
I've now got two shooting sessions with my new S&W M&P 10mm M2.0 4.6" pistol. Both sessions were after I had thoroughly cleaned and lubricated my pistol.
During my first session I fired a total of 296 rounds of 10mm ammo, with a healthy mix of using the M&P stock steel guide rod and captured recoil spring assembly, and a Wolff Gunsprings steel guide rod and 24-pound uncaptured recoil spring set. I was shooting 216 rounds of Remington UMC 10mm 180 Gr FN FMJ range ammo (1,150 FPS with 528 FtLBs of muzzle energy); 40 rounds of Underwood 10mm NOSLER 180 Gr JHP (1,250 FPS w/ 625 FtLBs of muzzle energy); 40 rounds of Underwood 10mm 200 Gr FN Hi-Tek Coated HCL (1,250 FPS w/ 694 FtLBs of muzzle energy).
I had 1 malfunction, a FTF, while shooting Underwood 10mm 200 Gr FN Hi-Tek Coated HCL ammo, with the M&P stock guide rod and recoil spring assembly. My M&P functioned flawlessly with all the other 295 rounds fired on day one.
I used only the Wolff guide rod and uncaptured 24-LBs spring during my second shooting session, which included 100 more rounds of the same Remington UMC range ammo, 20 more rounds of the Underwood 180 Gr Nosler defensive ammo, and 20 more rounds of Underwood 200 Gr FN HCL hunting ammo. I shot two-handed, strong hand only, and weak hand only, with all three loads, as well as rapid-fire 15+1 strings with each of these three loads, with zero malfunctions of any kind.
So after a grand total of 436 rounds to date, I've experienced just that one malfunction with the stock spring and 200 Gr FN HCL hunting ammo.
I love the M&P M2.0 ergonomics, but I really dislike the new style M&P trigger. However, I have a fix coming in the mail for this.
I'm looking forward to trying out some Underwood 10mm 140 Gr Extreme Defender, and 220 Gr FN HCL ammo next, once my order from Underwood arrives. I should have both my forthcoming Apex Duty / Carry trigger, and Trijicon Bright & Tough tritium night sights installed before then.
Good things! 👍
Thanks
Love the review I just got mine the other day going to take it out tomorrow for a test run I'm sure I'm going to love it thanks again
I just picked up this 10mm in the 4" barrel, no thumb safety. I have a little less than 100 rounds through it but so far I love it. I cleaned and lubed it before I took it out the first time, which I think is a must with any gun. I had one failure to feed on my very first shot but I am 99% certain I limp wristed it. After I clamped down on it, it ran like a champ. No problems after that. Used sellier and bellot 180gr FMJ. Fits in my hand extremely well as all my M&Ps do. weight is great and I think helps to reduce recoil, which also i very manageable. Great review, solid info!
Thanks for the update, it sounds very much like my experience. No issues since my first trip to the range either.
Thank you for your video. Just this weekend I compared the look and feel of this gun and the Glock. I was impressed with the Smith and will purchase when I get back to my home state. Thank you again
You're very welcome, I still have mine and have had zero issues with the 4.6" version.
I'm in Alaska as well and I just got one of these a couple days ago. So far I much prefer this over the glock 40 I had.
Great video keep up the great work, I've been looking to get a 10mm, looking at the 1911s etc and I forgot about the s&w , seems like a great option.
Since that first hiccup (my fault) I've been pleasantly surprised, it's a keeper.
Just picked up the 4" yesterday. Only ammo at my lgs was critical duty. Ran 2 boxes flawlessly. Can't wait to try some hotter ammo. Love it so far.
Appreciate the report, I think I'll run Underwood Xtreme Penetrators through it and 200 or 220 gr hardcast when I take it out again. It's a keeper for sure.
Great comprehensive review!
Thanks buddy!
I have the 4 inch version with a Holosun 507c. I've only shot about three mags of sig 180 grain. Zero malfunctions. I'm waiting on my 4.6 inch right now. I had to have them both. I love 10mm. The 4 inch is my edc for the winter. Great video. Thanks for the review.
That's really good to hear, perhaps they've gotten the 4" issues finally sorted out. Did you purchase very recently? And thanks for watching sir
Thanks for the updated review, I really want to buy this gun and I look forward to the heavy bullet review. For me the only use of this gun would be trail carry black bear defense, so if it can go bang 6 times in a row with heavy bullets I will be happy.
Agreed, I will keep you posted!
Great video brother! I love the M&P 2.0’s. I look forward to you shooting the hot 10mm out of it with Chuke. I saw in the comments Chuck offered up some real 10mil too. 😎
Thanks! Nice, yeah, always a good time with those two
I really think all this needs is a heavier recoil spring and possibly mag springs. Only issues I had so far were with 220g underwood. Underwood 140g extreme penetrators worked fine. All other 10mm loads have worked but they were all weaker 10mm. Got some federal HST 200g I still need to try. Wolff is working on some heavy recoil springs so it’s just a waiting game.
Thanks, I appreciate the info, I will see if I can get 220gr Underwood when I test it. I'll keep an eye out for the Wolff springs as well.
Hello any word on the Wolff springs?
Nice pistol bro! I like the mag system. Quick eject and reload! Have a great weekend to you!
Definitely an amazingly good mag release and magazine system. You have a great weekend as well, DUMPING snow here!
Great review. I almost got one a week ago, but the 4” model. I have you seen any of Turkey opinion reviews? Funny enough, he had real problems with full power loads as have other reviewers so he ended up going with the Springfield then the Springfield just broke on him 🤷♂️. Also for what it’s worth, I wrote apex tactical if their M&P 2.0 triggers would work in this and they wrote me back saying they wouldn’t. I figured I’d wait till we get a performance center line of this for a better trigger and smith fixed the issues with high power loads that so many are saying doesn’t work in this yet.
FYI Apex has now updated for the 10mm.
Thanks for a good discussion of the pistol.
The weapon has a very high front sight blade and rear sight notch. What holster do you use that allows you to draw without hanging up on that tall front blade? You mentioned 180 gr cartridges for range shooting. What ammunition do you plan to use for bear stoppers when you wear the weapon in the woods or around cabin & camp?
Also, how do you expect to carry this pistol in bear country? I have a chest holster from Crossbreed. I really like the chest position for year round carry. I can access the weapon easily in typical winter weather in the mountains of the PNW when my coat is open to only half zipped. My chest carry holster will also work well in warm weather over a light shirt.
4.6 in barrel version m&p 10mm. Does it matter which gun oil to use and how much to use from getco. Which spring to replace the factory one and would getting different spring in the gun magazine will make any difference. All details are greatly appreciated. Which iwb holster would work great for the 4.6 in barrel version.
The chamber is fully supported. I've shot full power loads and handloads out of that firearm. Handled it with no problem
Do you have a source for the chamber support? I would like it to be able to share with viewers.
i wasnt a huge fan of gen 1 m&p because of trigger mostly, but fell in love with the 2.0 when i shot one.
They're really nice, and yes, don't miss that Gen 1 trigger one bit. Good riddance.
CH Precision makes mounting plates out of aluminum to use on it and stainless steel screws. And it has full case head support. Saw it demonstrated on a you-tube.
Nice
I think the steel chassis and single recoil spring lead to the greater perceived recoil. I just got into 10 mm and have an M&P to go with my 1911 10mm. Great video.
That makes sense @cw
Just purchased the same pistol you have 2 hours ago. Was worried a bit due to the other reviews with issues. Glad I watched yours! Will definitely Lube it tonight before shooting it tomorrow
How'd it run? And congrats!
Ran great! Zero issues
@@scotthoward1026 Great to hear! thanks for the report
I'm loving my "4". The 4.6 is on my wish list. I haven't found any Underwood yet. No issues with Doubletap.
Appreciate the feedback, I'll skip the Doubletap then and focus on the Underwood extreme penetrator and hardcast when I first test.
I,m looking to buy a 10mm smith and Wesson. Out of 10 review's on the smith and Wesson 10 mm 9 have been very good 👍😊. This will be my favorite new hand gun to have. Thanks for the good reviews on S&W.😅😅 Jin
Hey LW how are you doing? I've been down and out for awhile, but I hope I'm back. I'm glad all the gun needed was oil, I was worried about that. But you've talked me into checking one out, especially after the Supreme Court ruling. If I stay healthy long enough I have to get out to Arizona and freedom. Have a great day my 2A brother!
Great to hear from you again @RichardColligon! Hope you can make it to Arizona, that would be at the top of my list if I ever left Alaska.
Good review my friend
Thank you sir
I bought and modified a Glock 20 Gen 4 pistol & am keeping this one. I changed the dangerous factory unsupported barrel after watching Chuke's Glock 20 video with a KKM threaded barrel as per his recommendation, replaced the factory connector with a -3.0 connector, polished the trigger parts as per the .25 cent Glock trigger video, & now after $400 plus of aftermarket parts I feel I have a safe gun with a well tuned 3.5 lb. smooth trigger pull (for a Glock). Talon grips fixed the slippery Glock grip. I had a problem with a poor slide release spring causing the slide to lock back after every round shot. After re-stretching the spring I haven't had any problems with light, medium, or the heavy Underwood 220 gr. hard cast rounds. I don't have to lube the gun for reliability although I do for the longevity of the gun. I am very happy with the gun now. As reliability is #1, I feel no need to downgrade to an unreliable pistol that has to have lubrication to work properly that kicks more, weighs about the same & has the same footprint. The extra kick of the S&W is most likely due to the upper part of the backside of the grip being narrower than the Glock. I also have a beautiful Springfield Ronin Elite 10mm 1911 (also extremely reliable) that weighs 10 oz. more than the Glock but has more felt recoil because it is thinner and also being of metal does not absorb the shock like polymer does. A noticeable difference! If I couldn't take the lightweight Glock into the field, I would take the heavier Springfield 1911 10mm as it shoots more accurately with fiber optic sights and a 4 lb. 1911 trigger.
Interesting, it is substantially thinner so that makes sense. Appreciate you weighing in, great comment.
KKM good choice did you change your recoil spring to NDZ 22 pound and stainless rod
I had one ordered... But cancelled. I wanted the 4" hope they get it fixed... But lil more excited about the Sig320 in 10mm!!
@CW NEVER hurts to wait a year or so until the kinks get worked out. Hopefully the Sig this summer!
The suppressor height sights are so you can co-witness with a red dot sight. A big reason to buy it.
Yes indeed, great standard feature on the M&P 2.0 10mm
280+ rounds ran through my 4" 10mm everything from 135gr. To 200gr. Hot loads. Not 1 feeding issue. My only complaint is the front sight is off center from the factory. I've heard of alot of feeding issues with this model, but luckily i have not had 1. Anything over 200gr. In a compact polymer pistol @ 1200fps is hard on it... fun fact the caliber (pistol) that most bear have been killed with, in a defensive situation is ...........9mm!
Nice, great first person review.
I’ll have to check that out I’m looking for a new pcw not as heavy as my .45
It's a very ergonomic, light package, especially so for a 10mm.
that back strap pin is also a tool for the seer de-activator
I called s&w when I 1st was interested they said chamber is fully supported. Got rid of my Glock 20 because it wasn't, as reported by 1 of Chucke's video's. Got a Glock handy? pull the barrel, do the same w/S&W then compare. Justinopinion also covers the topic.
Well ,we'll try he say finally came my wife got me the 4.6 for my birthday I love it this is my 3rd 10mm,Rock island 1911, EAA Witness Elite, love them all, but the M&P has become my EDC I love the trigger ,it's slim not to heavy. I didn't lube mine when I first got it ran flawless, I ha seen the reviews on it saying I won't run full power loads, HELL it runs 155JHP JUST FINE...
Congratulations, sounds like you have a keeper! I'm looking to try the Underwood 220gr hardcast, that'll be the acid test I think. Enjoy and thanks for watching!
I too bought into the idea of replacing my 44 mag for bear protection with a 10mm. So I got one of these with the four inch barrel. The first night I shot 40 rounds of Blazer 180 gr bullets with no problems, but 10 rounds of Buffalo Bore 220 gr. With the Buffalo Bore I had one case of it not going into battery. Last night I shot 13 rounds of 220 gr Buffalo Bore: two failed to feed and two failed to go into battery. With 20 rounds of Grizzly 220 gr lead cast bullets, four failed to feed and I had one light strike. Then I tried five rounds of off brand 200 gr hard cast bullets that are supposed to go 1200 fps. Here I had two light strikes. Finally, I shot 15 rounds of 180 gr Blazer range ammo again with no problems. Smith and Wesson wants me to send the gun back, which I will do. Right now mine is certainly not ready to carry where bears could be a threat-which is my only purpose for buying this gun.
I'm with you, I don't have full confidence in carrying it for bear defense this summer. The G29 is sitting beside my on my deck right now with a moose a few hundred feet away, I KNOW that is good to go with Double Tap ammo.
I replaced my beloved Ruger Super Blackhawk 4 5/8” Predator with a G20 for my Alaskan sidearm !
I think the M&P 2.0 is a really sharp looking piece. The armornite finish is outstanding, par with Glock’s Gen5 NDLC and Sig Nitron. Also, Smith is more serious about stock dot ready guns, including all plates and tall sights right in the box. I also prefer the full 4.6” version of this 10mm. Looks “complete.” Compacts look bobbed or incomplete to me. Says me.
Yeah, M&P’s are handsome. I love the look of the new Glocks with front serrations, but this looks as good.
A lot of manufacturers now send out weapons either partially or dry lubed. Taurus does this with revolvers. I think they're doing as a cost cutting measure or a trend. Nice weapon. A new way of making sure your weapon will last. 🎩♠🏁🎯🏵
Very interesting, that makes sense. Just another way they're trying to force guys to actually read the manuals 🤣
@@LWRoad yes it is.
Didn't the gen 5 glock also need to be cleaned before use? Even says so in the manual.
I want it with the PORTED BARREL 5.6 Have owned smith and 4510 and Colt Delta ELITE both kick way harder then any 45 ACP
Definitely
Very cool review my brother. My brother loves m&ps just complain about their trigger I say I have to agree. Both of his 40s&w have bad trigger compared to other guns like my ruger sr40c . Theo my brother wife shield 9mm I say trigger nice in that. We where looking at the 10mm but know reson for it here for what we need 40s&w is enough or 357mag. Out would change the law for pistol hunting
I like the trigger once it hits the wall but there's far too much take-up in my opinion.
Add the weight of a Red Dot and TAC light on the TAC rail adds weight to mitigate felt recoil.
Roger
Thanks
Sure, thanks for watching
I wanted to like this gun because I love my m&p 40 and 9mm but my mags would fall out mid shooting and jammed on almost every ammo I tried. This one has such good ergos and trigger but it's not reliable enough for me.
Do what you want but IMO every new weapon should be lubed and patch ran down the barrel .
I really love mine , its actually working it's way up to my new carry . I just wish someone would make some damn iron sights for it already , I'm not putting a dot on it .
Just FYI when you use a date like December let people know what month you're filming in. You said you got it in December we don't know if it's January or November.
I am curious to see how long it takes for magazines and parts to reach the market. I like to have at least half a dozen magazines for all my firearms with detachable magazines, so that is a big issue for me. I am hesitant to buy something I know I can't even find spare magazines for. And with reports of issues coming from some with the M&P 10mm, esp concerning full power ammunition, I am interested to know how long it is going to take S&W and others to step up with increased power recoil assemblies. A 20 or 22 pound recoil spring would probably solve most of the functional issues with the M&P 10mm and full power loads, if one could be found for the pistol.
I've heard Wolff has a spring in development but as far as mags I can't help you there. I've been looking myself and still can't find ANY in stock anywhere. It's a real issue for sure. Appreciate you watching, thanks for the feedback👍🏽
I can get mags all day at my lgs for $40
Will stick with the XDM Springfield doesn't jam and has the red dot front sight.
Nice, solid choice.
The m&p frames seem to offer the best polymer that I've come across. The frames just feel and look ultra durable. Even the ez 380 my wife has seems top notch. The only thing I don't like is the models that don't have a manual safety have that small block of polymer where the manual safety would be and it looks pretty bad.
It would be interesting to shoot the s&w polymer frame 10mm m&p pistols next to the s&w steel frame 10mm pistols such as a 1076 model.
That would, I keep looking at them online, it's on my buy list one day...the 1076 that is
@@LWRoad Oh I bought a 1076 s&w 10mm in 1995, I saw it at a gun show at the Collinsville community center. Back then gun shows around St. Louis, MO., whether in MO or IL, you could attend the gun shows, be a vendor, and sell to MO or IL residents with the proper id, ammo, reloading components,that kind of stuff, and if an IL, dealer sold you a MO, resident and you showed him your valid driver license, you didn't have to pay sales tax, and vice versus for IL., residents with MO vendors, but not with the actual purchase of a firearm, you had to buy from the dealer from the state you lived in at the gun show. I saw this 1076 model 10mm at Hugh's display asked about and asked for his card. I bought stuff from IL vendors, showed them my valid MO drivers license and paid for it with no IL sales tax. I called Hugh a day or 2 later, his wife said he had gone out west for gun shows and I said I wanted to buy the 1076 fbi 10mm that I talked to him at the gun show. She said oh ok, Hugh said only 1 person talked to him about that 10mm pistol and he didn't think he could sell due to lack of interest. Boy times have changed, I got that gun for 550.00 and it had nite sites.
Soft leather holster off ebay carry mine just fine 😎 Turkeys opinion tried to say I'm ignorant for bringing up the oiling the inside lol Mine was dirty too out the box needed cleaned bad insantly.
The recoil on the Glock is lighter because you have a light on it. It adds extra weight to the front of the gun reducing recoil dramatically.
Yep, I noticed that after I filmed the original segment, next time I'll take it off.
I want to get one of these for deer hunting
That'd be a good use for it, the Springfield 5.25 or Glock 40 might be even better for that application.
I am getting one with a 4.6 inch barrel. It has full chamber support even more so than Glocks. A 24 pound Wolf spring is available for the 4.6 inch barrel if you want to change out the 17 pound spring it comes with. It will be my primary belt carry for my new security guard job.
That's the one I have. Did Wolff just release that new weight spring? I knew they were going to but didn't think it was available yet. Would you mind testing it and reporting your results, I may be very interested in getting one.
@@LWRoad have not received mine yet. But Wolff already has a 24 pound spring for the 4.6 inch barrel. Have heard if heavy loads are your preference the 24 pound spring saves stress on the slide and helps with ejection reliability. Fixing it as it were.
@@jeffreylocke8808 Roger, looking at their site now
@@LWRoad I just ordered the 24 pound spring from Wolff and the one for 9/357/40 is the one I got. $7.98 plus shipping. I am ready when mine comes in now.
I purchased the Wolff Gunsprings steel guide rod and uncaptured 24-pound recoil spring set (#54624 for $30, plus S&H). It's made for the S&W M&P 45 ACP full size pistol (4.6" barrel). The M&P 45 ACP and new 10mm are virtually identical in their exterior dimensions, both have 4.6" barrels, and they use the same length guide rod and recoil spring assemblies ( 3-5/8" ).
The M&P 9 and 40 M2.0 full size pistols have 4.25" barrels, or else 5" barrels in the "long slide" versions. The 4.25" and 5" 9mm and 40 S&W barreled pistols use the same length stock guide rod & captured recoil spring assemblies ( 3-1/4" ). The full size 10mm and 45 ACP 4.6" pistols use 3/8" longer guide rods than the full size 9mm and 40 S&W 4.25" and 5" pistols. At least that's how it is in my M&P M2.0 pistols.
I've got hundreds of 10mm rounds fired through mine without any malfunctions whatsoever, using the Wolff guide rod and uncaptured 24-pound recoil spring set (#54624).
My 357/44mg never has a miss fire, too many things can go wrong with semi's
I have seen one video where he showed its full chamber support
I would love the link if you have it.
@@LWRoad @13:15 he shows the support. I also remember I asked turkey to check his and he confirmed full support. ruclips.net/video/gE1VO-tbsLI/видео.html
Having a hard time finding a holster for my 2.0 10...any suggestions
I like to get local work done, here in Alaska Quicklock Holsters, GS Holsters and Frost Modular Systems are good go to's. They ship nationally too.
Next in my M&P collection
NICE
Really wish I could get .357 sig hard cast
The trigger over travel stop is fixed in the back of the trigger guard. It is non adjustable and keeps trigger over travel controlled.
Nope, read the manual, 1/16" Allen can adjust the over travel to what you like.
My M&P 10mm M2.0 4.6" trigger over-travel stop is fixed as well, it's not adjustable.
The fact that it’s compared mostly to the Glock I feel it’s a bad ax gun. Nice video fella
Thank you sir, much appreciated
So the title says good bear gun yes or no did I miss it because I didn’t hear it mentioned?
Reliability is the concern I have moving forward, I am not yet confident enough to carry it for bear protection based on my early issues. I have yet to test it with 220 gr hard cast as well. Stay tuned for more videos about it this summer and thanks for watching
I'm getting this out of gun jail ( layaway) today but the 4" version after watching a few videos about the problems it's having. I'm not sure about the purchase now. I guess will see how it goes 🤞🤞🤞🤞.
Yeah, I like to generalize but in the end treat every pistol as a sample size of one. Let me know what your experience is, I'd be very interested
@@LWRoad will do..just got it and will be at the range tomorrow... Just found some 10mm silver tips to run down it
@@fluffy10mmjeepguy92 Very nice, good luck have fun!
Got the 4" safety model, safety is destroying the top of my thumb-its gotta go. No reliability issues with 180gr WWB, 200gr handloads. Hate the sites but RMR is on the way. So far so good.
Great to hear the reliability report, not so much on the safety. Are you going to try to trade it for one without a safety?
@@LWRoad Thankfully the safety delete option and installation of frame plugs are a modularity bonus with the M&P. My plugs are on the way.
@@trpshooter9945 Good to know, I'll be curious to see how they function, let me know. Thanks for the info
I will get my M&P 2.0 4.6 inch barrel 10mm I am buying ported by Mag-Na-Port. Ken Kelly can do the slide and barrel for $167 as I called them.
Man, I almost got my Ruger Toklat 454 Casull done by them, curious to see how you like it.
@@LWRoad I have had my Model 329PD quad ported by Mag-Na-Port and would not be without it.
10mm grip is the same as the 45 2.0. Whole lower is the same form factor.
10mm. 200 grain underwood hitek hard cast
There is a tool for breaking it down that you pull out to change the grip.
I looked at the SW 10mm
No Thank You staying with G20 !
this is kinda novelty, but you can actually use your eyes to see if the chamber is fully supported. I actually trust them, more than what a company "says"
Roger, I don't like to misrepresent a company but I've got a video coming where I'll discuss this.
Ergonomics and trigger make the M&P the best striker 10mm.
Smith needs to put these triggers in all their guns instead of those hinge triggers
Hello, I have been looking for this Pistol for months and finally found one, purchased it, lubed it, and took it to the range. I brought 100 rounds of 200 grain ammo with me and it was having a very hard time feeding in a new round. I would have to tap the back of the slide or drop the mag, clear it and reload sometimes having a malfunction not feeding in a new round at that point. I made sure I didn't limp wrist the firearm so that couldn't be the problem. I was rather disappointed having no less than 30 jams within the first 100 rounds. I only had 200 grain ammo that day and plan on trying with 180 to see if it's any better which j am really hoping it is. Any advise or thoughts on why this might have been happening. Thanks for the videos 👍
The rounds in mine were feeding a little low from the magazine and slightly hanging up on the bottom of the feed ramp. I can see a worn area now straight below the start of the feed ramp. However, I have heard of issues with 220 gr. Sorry I can't help you more. I would contact Smith pronto and let them know what it going on.
@LWRoad Thanks for the input, I think I will contact S&W about this issue. Thanks again for the content, it's awsome seeing a fellow Alaskan put out good videos.
Smith put suppressor height sights on it so one can run a red dot with co-wittness iron sights.
I put a Holoson 507c on my 4.6" and it co-witnesses perfectly.
I've had zero problems or malfunctions thus far shooting Blazer, Underwood, HSM and Buffalo Bore .
I have a Glock 20 as well and I disagree with you on recoil.
I find the M&P much easier and more comfortably to shoot than the G20.
Bottom line for me is the G20 has become a safe queen and the new M&P is my bush carry gun.
Good to hear, trying to get with @AlaskanBallistics to run some heavy loads through it so I can maybe carry it too
@@LWRoad I hope my luck is yours as well with the M&P 10mm.
I too live in Alaska (down on the Kenai) and I feel confident thus far using the M&P as my bear gun.
I got nervous with the G20 after reports and videos of people's G20 blowing up on the upper receiver from using hot 220gr loads.
The grip on the Glocks I dislike as well. I prefer the 18 degree 1911 grip angle of the M&P.
I put the small backstrap on and it fits my hand perfectly like my M&P 2.0 9mm.
I only have 250 rounds through it thus far all from cheap to high end ammo.
I wish I could shoot it more but damn...10mm ammo is expensive!
@@bruceb9515 @AlaskanBallistics is hunting but we are going to try to sneak in some testing in the next couple weeks, stay tuned and yes...super expensive and add in gas and it's downright ridiculous!
@@LWRoad well said!
I look forward to seeing the results from your upcoming testing.
Anyone tried using the sig sauer ammo through the gun?
Hardly bear defense worthy!
Mine failed to chamber round 1-2 times per magazine, all types of ammo. Then with Underwood ammo dropped the magazine every shot! When I called S&W the turn around time was 5-6 weeks and they gave me no assurance that they had a fix for these problems. What was even more shocking was that the CUSTOMER SERVICE Rep. talked over the top of me and eventually raised her voice at me when I asked for a refund, since she could not assure me that the gun would be fixed in 6 weeks. Given this situation, 2 weeks after buying the Smith, I traded that POS in on A G20 and lost $300. Since S&W was of no help, my only recourse is to share this experience with as many people as I can.
I hate to be posting about this, but from what I have read others have experienced this same problem.
My G20 functions great with anything that I put in it. Including Underwood.
Yes, I have definitely heard others have these problems. Sorry to hear, glad the G20 is working for you, Chuke had trouble with one G20 but overall very reliable
You always clean and lube any new weapon before shooting it.metal shavings left in the barrel will ruin the weapon
Can’t find one anywhere
Weird, there should be plenty of Smith 10s around
Just some honest feedback. I don’t understand why anyone would spend their hard earned money on a gun and take it straight to the range to fire without cleaning and lubing . I have had too many guns with metal shavings, grit, dirt etc. I learned my lesson the first time I didn’t didn’t clean and lube first .
I am not sure how taking it straight out of the box for a RUclips review provides any good information . Otherwise great review thanks!
Nobody likes the hinge since most aren’t accustomed to one. If more guns used them this wouldn’t be a issue. Now flat triggers only so less options it seems. 🤦♂️
Did you get used to a hinged trigger? My experience is that controllability is much more enhanced with a flatter faced one piece trigger vs. the hinged design.
I NEVER fire a production firearm 1st without dis-assembly, inspection, lubrication and my re-assembly - NEVER.
The most recent... a factory fresh Ruger SFAR- was a lame excuse of their very loose staked gas key - its a clear example of why I always do a teardown first.
Look at my video if you want to see what the end result of a friday afternoon production piece looks like.
Do not ever trust someone else with your life, vision or general health when a new production line firearm is about to go off in your face. It may have been assembled 20min before the weekend!! with little pride in craftsmanship or integrity in a final quality control check.
I'm all horny for this pistol now. It is definitely my next purchase. I'm going to shop for a light, red dot (Holosun) and holster system. I'm liking the Alien Gear modular appendix carry. I have one for my xds and it's so comfortable I sleep in it. Thanks for the video, you went everywhere I needed you to go.
Do you put oil in your car? Lol
Yeah, there's a whole backstory to this saga, I lube up everything now before taking it out to test
An Alaskan Brown Bear is three feet thick solid muscle, can weigh well in excess of a thousand pounds, tenacious of life, claws that can tear apart trees, can run 35 miles per hour and can swat a moose’s head clean off ! You have to ask yourself, do you feel lucky today ??? A pistol ? Hell no !!! .416 Remington Magnum is a much better choice. An absolute minimum, short barreled 18 inches, 12 gauge shotgun with high speed slugs …auto loader or pump.
The never ending debate, it's up there with 45 vs. 9. Great points.
Except that a rifle or shotgun is a lot harder to bring into action quickly. Unless you know you're going to be attacked in advance, the rifle or shotgun will most likely be slung, nobody walks around for hours outdoors with a shotgun at the ready.
While a handgun can clear a holster in a second and be ready to go. Not to mention they can be used at point blank if the animal's already mauling you.
Also, while there are a lot of black bears in here, there are plenty of grizzlies, too, and 9mm, .40 S&W, 10mm, and .357 magnum and larger handguns all seem to provide around a 97% success rate against bears:
www.ammoland.com/2020/03/update-handgun-or-pistol-against-bear-attack-93-cases-97-effective/
The Danish Navy's SIRIUS Teams in Greenland evualtion for an effective caliber sidearm to be able to stop an attacking Polar Bear, (which gets bigger than Brown Bears), was to choose the 10mm round and the Glock model 20 pistol.
@@MrKaido93 Poor bear will die of a bowel obstruction after he swallows the pistol, lol.
@@donaldmartin4980
Your full of BS!
Say you've never held a M&P 2.0 without saying you've never held a 2.0. Seriously this guy must be living in a bubble.
Leave the bears alone.
That's the goal
How about the bears leave people alone!
Junk. Buy a Glock 20
Glocktard in the house
It's a solid choice
When you put too much sculpting into a gun design, it looks like crap. American gun companies make crappy looking pistols, especially with stupid warnings all over the guns.
My S&W M&P 10mm M2.0 4.6" pistol range update for Saturday, Sept. 30, 2023, testing my new magazine extensions from Floyd's Custom Shop, Inc. (located in Blanchard, ID). These extensions give me 2 x 16 round mags and 1 x 20 round mag of 10mm Auto ammo.
I ran 280 rounds of 10mm Auto ammo through my pistol today, bringing my grand total round-count of 10mm Auto ammo to 2,101. I experienced three near FTF jams with one specific type of ammo. I say "near" because ultimately these three rounds did feed on their own, but they did not go smoothly into battery (more on this, below). I put the following rounds of 10mm Auto ammo down range today:
1. Steinel Ammo 180 Gr FN FMJ × 100 rounds (1,140 FPS MV; 519 FtLbs ME). Clean, accurate, soft-shooting, low-powered for 10mm Auto, flawless operation.
2. Underwood Ammo Range Supply 180 Gr FN FMJ x 50 rounds (1,250 FPS MV; 624 FtLbs ME). Clean, very accurate, potent, moderately-powered 10mm Auto, flawless operation.
3. "'Blemished' on sale" SIG Sauer Elite Ball 180 Gr FMJ x 50 rounds (1,250 FPS MV; 624 FtLbs ME). Clean, accurate, potent, moderately-powered 10mm Auto, three near FTF jams. I could feel my pistol almost choke on three of these rounds, rather than smoothly slam into battery, but these three rounds did feed on their own without any added input from me. Post-firing, I examinded the cases and found slight barrel-like bulging, and micro-fracturing, around the central and top areas of these cases. SIG did post a warning that this "blemished" ammo might not be totally reliable... but it was on sale at a pretty big discount. Buyer beware - scrutinize each of these cartridges before attempting to fire them.
4. Underwood Ammo 180 Gr Hornady XTP JHP x 20 rounds (1,300 FPS MV; 675 FtLbs MV). Clean, very accurate, potent, moderately high-powered 10mm Auto, flawless operation.
5. Underwood Ammo 155 Gr Hornady XTP JHP x 20 rounds (1,500 FPS MV; 774 FtLbs MV). Clean, very accurate, very potent, full-powered 10mm Auto, flawless operation.
6. Underwood Ammo 200 Gr FN HCL x 20 rounds (1,250 FPS MV; 694 FtLbs MV). Smokey, very accurate, very potent, high-powered 10mm Auto, flawless operation. No uncommanded magazine drops.
7. Underwood Ammo 220 Gr FN HCL x 20 rounds (1,200 FPS MV; 703 FtLbs MV). Smokey, very accurate, very potent, high-powered 10mm Auto, flawless operation. No uncommanded magazine drops.
So my M&P 10mm Auto pistol has gone 2,100 for 2,101 (99.952% reliable), and has functioned 100% flawlessly since investing $46 in upgrading the stock 17# RSA and the stock mag springs in my two original magazines back in late May 2022. This is a very reliable, very ergonomic, very easy pistol to shoot well.
Good things! 👍