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okay, this year no Game of Thrones on the Comic Con and possible never ever on Comic Con with the Original Cast of this Show, with Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams, Gwendoline Christie, Lena Headey, etc. So I thought to tell you both lovely Ladies, that I would love to see some Game of Thrones-Videos about some unlikely Pairs, like: "The similarities of Dany and Cersei" And maybe Similarties between Got-Characters and real history-Personalities, like Dany being an combination between Queen Maud and King Henry 7.
Your last point about Joey is really moving. He always listens to his heart and has simple needs, which is why he doesn’t feel the need to change. I think that purity is why Phoebe liked him so much, because part of her emotional growth was stunted by her traumatic childhood. With someone as caring and unassuming as him, she could enjoy herself without having to think about anything.
He was a disgusting womanizer and not as cute and funny as they tried to make him be. Disrespecting women isn't funny to anyone who isn't a misogynist.
Sadly, I actually picture Joey in his "Joey Room" that Chandler & Monica set aside for him at their house, in his old age. Not because he wasn't successful in his career, but because - in the end, he needed to be near them. The true love of his life *_is_* Chandler. Great review. 😊❤️
Ugh Joey and chandlers moments are actually the ones that get me emotional !!! When he says he wished for chandler to get the job really makes me tear up!! He LOVES his friends and honestly I think that’s the one thing we all wish we had, a friend who truly loves us and wants the best for us
@@anarcho-communist11 Yes Joey is sexist and a cheater along with being a top notch manipulator, but he did love his closest friends I'll give him that. He was for sure a horrible bf to many of the women so no lie about that. Plus he was pretty childish and not in a good way, definitely emotionally immature.
let's also praise how he proposed to his friends when he found out about their pregnancy and didn't want them to be a single parent because of his own mother raising so many kids alone. GEM.
@@peacendpola23 Yes, but if I remember correctly, he was actively cheating on her their entire relationship, having Joey's mother raise her kids practically on her own. Joey wanted to help his friends not be alone when he thought they were pregnant
@@boredkory40472 years late here, but he had only been cheating on Joeys mother for the “last 6 years” so it’s likely that the majority of Joeys siblings had moved out by then
To all the people talking about Joey and Rachel’s romance, the writers said that when they pitched it, it was actually extremely rejected and pushed against. They argued that was exactly why they forced it, because sometimes friends do stupid things out of emotion and not reason. So that’s why it feels forced, because it is! It’s realistic and flawed, which I love.
This is a real thing. I know some people in my circle of friends who out of nowhere started dating. Everyone knew they weren't meant for each other, and even they themselves knew it, but they did it anyway. They broke up about a month later when they came to their senses, and remained friends after that. I'm pretty sure all of us have seen a Joey/Rachel-type relationship (or have been in one) at some point.
@@mikepuppetz9 yeah..and we also have that friends that we want to hook up because we thought or say to them, "Youre so meant to be," or "Youre supposed to be together," or "Youre lobsters"...that we often forget have badly theyve hurt each other in the past and even them fighting is kinda like an entertainment to us...i still dont get it why Phoebe still want them together...
Tbh Joey got my respect as soon as he was willing to MARRY Phoebe and Rachel because he thought they were pregnant and was willing to step up and be a dad to the unborn child
I've always thought of Joey as the best "friend" of the group. He's always the first to help or to defend. I didn't like his relationship with Rachel but I think he grew up a lot in that season and I wish he ended up with a girlfriend/wife.
Yessss. I cannot agree with you more. I feel Joey defines "A friend" and he is truly such a sweetheart. I find the one that he gave up eating meat for Phoebe to be the sweetest thing ever.
Abigail The video is about how not everyone needs a romantic partner or need to build a family to find fulfillment in life, though. I think this kind of thinking fits Joey perfectly.
Danielle Chandler did it because he is a good friend, not because there was not other choice. Joey was cheating on Katty just like he does with many women (and Chandler knew it), while Chandler was in love with her. Nevertheless he was the one who asked for forgiveness like a million times and I always thought Joey was too mean to him. Joey is kinda resentful. Chandler helped Joey like no one in this world would. I think Joey is very sweet to his friends (not to women lol) but Chandler is the definition of friendship. He is also such a good person not only to his friends but to everybody, for example, he would never just use a woman and then abandone her or cheat on her. Well, here is my opinion ☺
this is probably a controversial comment, but this video made me consider Joey as aromantic. Someone who WANTS the intimacy and closeness of a romantic relationship, but can never actually bring himself to really commit to it because it's against his nature. It's interesting how when he dreamed about Monica and pined after Rachel, it was mostly generic fantasies about doing cutesy couple things together and not about them specifically. And in the end he always chose/accepted friendship instead of romance, because to him friendship isn't a consolation prize but a true source of fullfilment. also damn, I forgot how good that "I guess they weren't as good friends as we are" line was. It actually made me feel things.
To my understanding, lithromantic is having romantic feelings but being indifferent as to whether they're reciprocated or not, which doesn't quite fit. And demiromantic would mean he could feel romance once in a while? Idk personally I don't see Joey as aromantic, just someone with different priorities. Maybe he's just one of those guys that has to be in his 40's or 50's before things click and he wants to settle down with someone. Or maybe he never does because while he seems to want that kind of intimacy and closeness sometimes, it doesn't seem like he's interested in the other aspects of a relationship (sex aside). It just seems like he occasionally gets a hankering for some close, cuddly affection with someone. I was like that as a teen, never had an interest in actually dating anyone, but I'd have cutesy little cliche fantasies about being all snuggly with them (funnily enough, often in a local coffee shop that had a big chair in it). It wasn't until I was in college that I ended up realizing I had fallen for a friend and now 8 years later, we're still together. Who knows what Joey's future has in store.
While I was watching the video I totally thought about this, at least in the face of this analysis, the things that the narrator was saying totally fit under the aro spectrum, and how he likes "the idea of being in love" or being in love in theory, fits the definition of lithromantic, so 100% agree with you
Barney is a straight up psychopath. If you think about it... is enjoying sex even a priority to Barney? He actually does not make an impression of a person who enjoys sex, he sees it as a sport, always competing with... himself, mostly. Joey is much more relatable, he's just a man who enjoys simple things in life and is charming enough to get girls regularly.
I saw How I Met Your Mother BEFORE I saw F.R.I.E.N.D.S. so when I heard that "Joey is a player" and then finally saw his character in action, I was like, "yeeeeeeah, man, this is so damn tame compared to Barney."
It's simple. We eat, we laugh, we feel stupid at the same time wise and of course we love. Joey is the kind of guy that improves all these aspects tenfold.
I love Joey:) He is truly a sweetheart. He proposed to both Phoebe and Rachel respectively when he taught they were pregnant and alone. That melted my heart to how pure his platonic love for his friends was.
Adnan Amin phoebe is very complex, yes. But I feel like they shouldn’t have made her so self involved. It kinda pissed me off about her character. Just like Ross and his whining.
@@romeostruedude she literally forces her friends to change their decisions to fit her views. EX .. getting mad at Rachel for getting a massage, and shopping at a store she doesn't like. She is also a hypocrite. Turned out she worked at the place. She ended up buying stuff from the same store. She wore a fur. She ate meat at joey's expense. She basically has all these rules and codes she claims to value, but drops and picks up again depending on what she feels like doing. I'd you think she's genuinely good then you fell for her many many lies.
Yeah., well, ....she actually was really mean to Chandler the entire tv show coz she thought he was lame and she always tried to get him and Monica fight or split up so......she's really vicious from time to time But overall she is a nice person ))
I always felt Joey was the most selfless character on the show, he went above and beyond in his friendships and took his friends feelings into consideration before his own. Phoebe didn't want him to date Ursula, he broke up with Kathy for Chandler, he broke up with Janine because Monica and Chandler didn't like her, he put his feelings for Rachel aside because he didn't want to hurt Ross, when he started earning more money and wanted to get his own apartment he was made to feel guilty, when he was making his first movie (which he had waited years to get) he was preoccupied with officiating Monica and Chandler's wedding. What's really so unfair is that in the end he was the only one alone while the others moved on. Joey is someone that actually should have been more selfish and put himself first for a change.
Joey is the most attractive of the Friends to me. He's a good guy to his friends, and that's what got me. I actually thought he was really sweet when he was with Rachel. And yeah, attraction comes out of close friendship for me. The way Joey usually comes onto women? Ironically, that does not work for me.
I think the writers should have written to where the story was taking them instead of being stuck with Ross and Rachel. After Joey's proposal is when they messed it up... I wish they had written it so that Rachel slowly realizes that she loves him and they (Joey and Rachel and Emma) go off the LA.. giving ross time to heal and Rachel realizing that she has actually got the true nice guy instead of the "nice guy/geek in love with popular girl trope". It would have been a more satisfying ending.. and actually more believable in reality! Sometimes we are mistaken in love, obsession.. And the most precious virtuous character (who upholds friendship above all else) is rewarded.
Fact: Joey's character was initially a jerk. But Mat Leblanc thought nobody would like to be a friend with a jerk. So they changed it to what we have seen on the show
What people don’t understand about Joey’s sleaziness with women is the he isn’t being childish about not being able to commit to a relationship, it’s because anytime he truly puts himself out there he gets hurt. When he bring home a women and Rachel gets him to really try to get into a relationship with her she ends up saying that SHE isn’t looking for a a serious relationship. When he falls for Kate ( the women from the play) she rejects him at first, then when they sleep together she doesn’t want to take it anywhere, finally after they truly fall for each other she leaves When he falls for Rachel and tells Ross it makes him think that he hates him because he was still in love with her. He then tells her and she doesn’t feel the same way, then when they get together they just can’t become more than friends So I don’t say Joey is being childishly rude for not getting into serious relationships, he just learns from his bad experiences
This is an interesting point, and to dig a little deeper it doesn’t necessarily contradict what The Take is getting at. Joey has a pattern of going for women in situations where the relationship is likely to fail from the very beginning. He falls for Kate despite her already being in another relationship and initially being clear that she’s not interested in him. He falls for Ursula, Phoebe’s estranged sister, whom he knows Phoebe has years of unresolved tension with. He continues to pursue her despite knowing he would pick Phoebe over Ursula because his friendship with her means more than a potential romance with Ursula. He does the same thing with Rachel and ends up prioritizing Ross’s feelings over his own towards Rachel multiple times. He pursues Janine despite his friends telling him it’s a bad idea to date a roommate. He dates Charlie who’s significantly more compatible with Ross, and Kathy who’s more compatible with Chandler. While I agree that he does get hurt in most of the relationships he seriously pursues, I can’t help but wonder whether he subconsciously goes for women things are unlikely to work out with because he’s not ready for the responsibility and commitment a relationship requires.
YES! This is the one I was waiting for. Thank you screenprism for your continued thoughtful and insightful analysis regarding the show. It's always incredibly fun to watch.
GODDAMN!! After understanding that Joey values his friends WAY more than getting in a relationship with a woman, the scene of him and Rachel deciding not to continue hurts harder now when you look at the way he says "I don't think they weren't as good friends as we are", He is saying it so heartbroken that you see he truly wants to be with Rachel but can't stand the idea of hurting a friend
Sometimes, I feel like I'm Joey. Here are the reasons why: - I sometimes don't share my food. - Even though I am a teenager, I still watch kid's shows to this day. - I sometimes suck at lying. - I sometimes forget stuff. - Whenever my friends have a conversation with each other and I don't understand what they are saying, I just roll with it and agree. - I don't care if I would have a girlfriend or wife, the only thing that cares is the happiness I give to both my friends and family.
Great video, tho about him looking 'sleazy' in today's standards i don't entirely see it, it's pretty harmless in way that even new young viewers watching Friends now don't seem to notice that he's 'sleazy'. At least not like Barney from HIMYM. Joey is boyishly foolish and charming that u'd feel bad for him about his immaturity rather than offended.
While there’s nothing wrong with casual sex, the women he slept with weren’t always aware it was casual. It’s dishonest to convince someone you care about them, sleep with them, and never call them back. Not to mention he constantly objectifies women instead of seeing them as individuals. He’s a pig.
Ehhh It’s pretty clear he knows what he’s doing with his dates, he just doesn’t care. And sure, he cares about women who happen to be his friends/family, but so do most guys. I’m personally not a big fan of the “protect the women in your life but all others are fair game” way of thinking lol, it seems a bit hypocritical. Agree to disagree, though.
Some of Joey's best words♥️ Hey, can I ask you something? In this, in this picture of you and your wife, is your wife Rachel? That’s okay Ross maybe you need a new picture. Okay? It’s not gonna be what you thought, but no matter what there’s gonna be a brand new little baby, your baby. Who cares what the picture looks like? They have a kid together, y'know. They’re like, they’re like a family, and if, I don’t know, there’s chance they could make that work, I know I wouldn’t want to be the guy who stood in the way of that. What about her? They've only been going out for two weeks. Ross has been in love with you for like 10 years. Look, Rach, Rach! I've been with my share of women. In fact, I've been with like a lot of people's share of women. The point is, I've never felt about anyone the way Ross felt about you. Chandler: How can I not be upset? Okay? I finally fall in love with this fantastic woman and it turns out that she wanted you first! Joey: Yeah for like a half an hour one night! Chandler, she wants you for the rest of her life! You’re so lucky! Look what I missed out on by not being there! Although you know what? It could never have worked like you guys did, ‘cause you guys are perfect for each other. Y’know, we look at you and-and we see you together and it just…it-it fits. Y’know? And you just know it’s gonna last forever.
faisal1979m I'd argue it'd be more along the lines of "the independent friend". She survived a very hard youth, prides herself on her not relying on anyone, doesn't commit to a relationship til Mike -well into her thirties-, lives alone most of the show and is the raw strength of the group - both physically and emotionally.
Omg I can’t wait to see Phoebe’s episode, she’s the one who had the hardest life but she still managed to get over all the shit she has been through,also she has the kindest heart, and we can see that when she had her brother’s babies for him.
You forgot that Joey was the one who indirectly taught Rachel the “Western Europe” story, resulting in Emma’s conception and the solidification of Ross and Rachel’s bond.
I disagree with this! I actually love the fact that my girlfriend wants my food and I am more than happy to share.. then we can just order some more! or even better I cook for her!! anything she fancy!
For real, this channel needs more subs, look at how they put their effort into every videos by editing and analysing as detail as possible each character in this sitcom Glad that i have found this high quality channel
Heck yes ScreenPrism! Don't have time to watch this now but just leaving a comment saying thanks for the Friends videos and I'll give this a watch later and give you my thoughts on it.
I can't wait for Phoebe's video. She is wonderfully weird, unique but always looks at the bright side of things. There is so much of her life that not even the others in the group know about and despite all the challenges she had over the course of her life, unlike Chandler. She always stayed positive and tried her best to be her own person, never be someone she wasn't and didn't really apologized for who she is. I think she is the one who reminds us to do the stuff you love and to just be yourself.
These Friends character analyses are so good and insightful. Makes me want to rewatch Friends. right now now. I wonder if you'll do a Take on "Supernatural" after it ends next year. Grand stuff!
You didn't talk about family or his career, so I feel the video is not complete. Family is big deal for Joey, is funny how he is a womanizer when he had so manny sisters; and the episode where he learns about his dad lover was one when he have to face the adult world. In the other hand, in the episode where he learn how to sail a boat he explains that "Tribbianis quit!" and in the one we saw his tailor, we found his dad is so naive that he can't reconize the guy taked advance to touch their genitalia, so that will explain why Joey is so innocent. I know the show never talk about how Joey is a (probably) son (or grandson) of immigrants, but his dad being a blue collar worked, as Joey wanted the second inmigration generation version of the american dream (become famous and rich making something fun) is something to talk about it. Also Joey likes to act, but the fact you don't see him wanting to take courses (in one episode he show he does not even the basics, and in another ones he fake he knows music, how todance and other things) or even explaining why he loves the stage point out about how his career is just a part of his eternal "Joeyhood" life and nothing he is investing anything.
I never had friends as close as those in FRIEND but I think I might be a mix of Joey and Phoebe. I tend to be the ever-child-like one who values friendship aspect of a relationship more than romance or sex (i've never been in a relationship yet but i know this much), and I am a bit of an positive oddball but has an unexpected edge.
Joey is Epicurean!!! He's not too ambitious, enjoys the simple pleasures of life like food, doesn't seek romantic relationship and the drama that stems from them, and keeps his friends close to him. So yeah, according to this philosophy, Joey would have already found happiness at the start of the series, that's why he doesn't need to change.
Joey is the sweetest, most loyal, and most childish friend you could ever ask for... And i honestly believe that girl in the hospital where Ben was born, was the one for Joey.
Idk why people keep telling Joey has never been in a long term relation. I keep remembering that episode where he has to buy a gift for Kathy and Chandler mentions a 3-year relationship he has been in. I know its the butt of a joke but still counts as a long term relationship.
I think I just teared up a little. Joey is that one friend I strive to have in my life. The one friend that is the first to step up in a crisis, the first one to defend me when I’m defenceless, the one that loves and lives and most importantly, teaches you how important it is to not share food!! I would’ve loved Joey and Rachel to have ended up together, the girl JOEY would choose to fall in love with, given the type of PERSON (as a whole, not just concentrated on his past history w other women) he is, THAT GIRL WOULD HAVE BEEN THE LUCKIEST GIRL IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD and we know it from how much he has loved Rachel. Rachel was so lucky omg, but she couldn’t keep the best man she could have ever had. Lastly, the little Joey room in Chandler and Monica’s little apartment. Could it BE any more emotional? Fuck I think I’m gonna cry 😭
I don't think Joey being a player is inappropriate for today, it's not like he ever pushes consent boundaries. He's just living his best life. I love Joey so much 🥰
Excellent discussion. I want to make something about the show's structure in terms of the three couples in relation to centuries of Western drama/comedy: Ross-Rachel as the structural moral center, Monica-Chandler as their parallel satellite and foil, and Phoebe-Joey as the comic servants, Greek chorus, and wise fools.
I know a lot of people say I CRIED even when they didn't. But I seriously did cry. Thank you so much for this video. I'm crying like a baby right now :'(
I've been watching the show since 1994 and watching this, it's made me see how good he really is... Him and Chandler were always my fav friendship but the way he loves them all is just beautiful
Your analyses of series characters, whether Friends or Mad Men and more and where they are situated in the larger context of the work are simply majestic in their thematic intricacy! At a time when the status of humanities is under attack, The Take is one of the best battle cries for their preservation. :)
So, if Joey just imagined himself being in a serious relationship with people he considered friends (even if he had one night stands with lot of women), and even with that, he platonicized his friendships, so it didn't felt good to date them, it could mean that he's demiromantic. Also, I think that is the one that loves himself (also I feel that Phoebe could fit this), and is happy with that. What I'm trying to say is that he thinks a relationship as person who want to be together with and not the "you're my half orange" thing, or being dependant of the other.
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Have you ladies ever thought of doing an analysis on “Five Easy Pieces”?
A video on phoebe
What song did you use for the video?
okay, this year no Game of Thrones on the Comic Con and possible never ever on Comic Con with the Original Cast of this Show, with Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams, Gwendoline Christie, Lena Headey, etc. So I thought to tell you both lovely Ladies, that I would love to see some Game of Thrones-Videos about some unlikely Pairs, like: "The similarities of Dany and Cersei" And maybe Similarties between Got-Characters and real history-Personalities, like Dany being an combination between Queen Maud and King Henry 7.
I would love to watch your analysis on How I met your mother!
You also forgot joey’s inability to lie, and that shows even more how much of an innocent child he is.
"Yeah this raccoon came and broke your plates" -Joey
😂😂
And difficulty to keep a secret lmao
Joey líes about the Dol's party so many times
I mean he’s lied to a lot of the women he’s dated
Children lie all the time lol that's not true
"How can we buy a house and not have Joey room" That dialogue made me cry
Aditya Shetye I ship them so much tbh! ❤️
same
Same
I forgot about that scene and when I was watching this video it really made me so happy
Me too!!!! 🥺
"You can't give up! Is that what a dinosaur would do??"
Haha! Wisdomous indeed
Rejoy Panakkal that needs to be a t- shirt 😂😂
Nohemi Gomez I would wear this t-shirt😃
wisdom*
That will be one hell of a tea shirt to wear.
Rejoy Panakkal that will be my senior quote!
Also his “backpacking through Europe” story effectively helped Ross and Rachel make Emma, which likely made their relationship stronger.
*Western Europe
Maxi but in the story he was in Barcelona what is in Southern Europe
@@Onneukbaar "It's Joey!"
Woah, i never made that connection.
Follower of Saints Southwestern Europe
“It’s like a cows opinion, doesn’t matter. It’s MOO.” 😂😂😂😂
I remember crying from laughter as I realized how much sense it made.
I've always loved that line delivery and how he commits to it 100%.
I don’t get it...
+rachke16 The joke in general? Joey is talking about a "moot" point, but he's misheard the phrase as "moo" point.
I feel sorry for poor cows😢
Your last point about Joey is really moving. He always listens to his heart and has simple needs, which is why he doesn’t feel the need to change. I think that purity is why Phoebe liked him so much, because part of her emotional growth was stunted by her traumatic childhood. With someone as caring and unassuming as him, she could enjoy herself without having to think about anything.
In other words, careless and stupid
Not exactly my cup of tea.
@@jennilee5514 It ain't about you in the first place.
Both Phoebe and Joey are AUTHENTIC..:-)
He was a disgusting womanizer and not as cute and funny as they tried to make him be. Disrespecting women isn't funny to anyone who isn't a misogynist.
@@anarcho-communist11 so do you like the show minus Joey, or do you just hate the show as a whole?
Sadly, I actually picture Joey in his "Joey Room" that Chandler & Monica set aside for him at their house, in his old age. Not because he wasn't successful in his career, but because - in the end, he needed to be near them. The true love of his life *_is_* Chandler. Great review. 😊❤️
angie 808 their friendship is the sweetest thing!!
angie 808 I picture him in a hand shaped mansion. 😂😂😂😂😂
angie 808 that's not sad, getting married doesn't guarantee happiness. As long as Chandy is around that's all hes ever going to need, period!
Uncle joey
angie 808 Plus he will also have Monica to cook and care for him.
Ugh Joey and chandlers moments are actually the ones that get me emotional !!! When he says he wished for chandler to get the job really makes me tear up!! He LOVES his friends and honestly I think that’s the one thing we all wish we had, a friend who truly loves us and wants the best for us
yep thats true friendship!
@Kagereneko and where chandly take the money out?
Joey is that TRUE BLUE friend and we all need a friend like that! Joey was a great character in that show!
@@BlazingPhoenix05 A sexist, cheater and manipulator? No thanks.
@@anarcho-communist11 Yes Joey is sexist and a cheater along with being a top notch manipulator, but he did love his closest friends I'll give him that. He was for sure a horrible bf to many of the women so no lie about that. Plus he was pretty childish and not in a good way, definitely emotionally immature.
let's also praise how he proposed to his friends when he found out about their pregnancy and didn't want them to be a single parent because of his own mother raising so many kids alone. GEM.
Joey's parents weren't divorced, dude.
@@peacendpola23 Yes, but if I remember correctly, he was actively cheating on her their entire relationship, having Joey's mother raise her kids practically on her own. Joey wanted to help his friends not be alone when he thought they were pregnant
@@boredkory40472 years late here, but he had only been cheating on Joeys mother for the “last 6 years” so it’s likely that the majority of Joeys siblings had moved out by then
@@boredkory4047 Yeah, but you forget when Joey's mom got mad at Joey for trying to set his dad on the right path... Literally, mad
To all the people talking about Joey and Rachel’s romance, the writers said that when they pitched it, it was actually extremely rejected and pushed against. They argued that was exactly why they forced it, because sometimes friends do stupid things out of emotion and not reason. So that’s why it feels forced, because it is! It’s realistic and flawed, which I love.
This is a real thing. I know some people in my circle of friends who out of nowhere started dating. Everyone knew they weren't meant for each other, and even they themselves knew it, but they did it anyway. They broke up about a month later when they came to their senses, and remained friends after that.
I'm pretty sure all of us have seen a Joey/Rachel-type relationship (or have been in one) at some point.
I still ship them though...Joey deserves to be happy at least for once..
@@immacentaur8793 I don't
@@mikepuppetz9 yeah..and we also have that friends that we want to hook up because we thought or say to them,
"Youre so meant to be," or "Youre supposed to be together," or "Youre lobsters"...that we often forget have badly theyve hurt each other in the past and even them fighting is kinda like an entertainment to us...i still dont get it why Phoebe still want them together...
It didn't translate well to the screen, it made the Joey and Rachel scenes unwatchable which is NOT good for a tv show. Worst parts of all of Friends.
Tbh Joey got my respect as soon as he was willing to MARRY Phoebe and Rachel because he thought they were pregnant and was willing to step up and be a dad to the unborn child
stop that moment was so frickin cute he was like this baby needs to have a father or something like that omg!
Joey has some special affection to pregnant woman. You would notice that in season 1 where ben was being born. He helped a pregnant women
Absolutely!
** _talking abt joey_ **
"aw there is a little child inside this man"
chandler: *"yes, the doctor said if they remove it, he'll die"*
I've always thought of Joey as the best "friend" of the group. He's always the first to help or to defend. I didn't like his relationship with Rachel but I think he grew up a lot in that season and I wish he ended up with a girlfriend/wife.
Yessss. I cannot agree with you more. I feel Joey defines "A friend" and he is truly such a sweetheart. I find the one that he gave up eating meat for Phoebe to be the sweetest thing ever.
Danielle Danielle he didn’t pee on Monica actually)
But doesn't that defy the purpose? I think the video explains it perfectly, he doesn't really want or need a wife
Abigail The video is about how not everyone needs a romantic partner or need to build a family to find fulfillment in life, though. I think this kind of thinking fits Joey perfectly.
Danielle Chandler did it because he is a good friend, not because there was not other choice.
Joey was cheating on Katty just like he does with many women (and Chandler knew it), while Chandler was in love with her. Nevertheless he was the one who asked for forgiveness like a million times and I always thought Joey was too mean to him. Joey is kinda resentful.
Chandler helped Joey like no one in this world would.
I think Joey is very sweet to his friends (not to women lol) but Chandler is the definition of friendship. He is also such a good person not only to his friends but to everybody, for example, he would never just use a woman and then abandone her or cheat on her. Well, here is my opinion ☺
Ant-man still looks the same while the friends all aged
except for rachel and pheebs.
and ross
sray118, yeah the only thing about Paul Rudd is that his hairstyle changed
Yup.
As far as I'm concerned, that's Americas ass
Lol
this is probably a controversial comment, but this video made me consider Joey as aromantic. Someone who WANTS the intimacy and closeness of a romantic relationship, but can never actually bring himself to really commit to it because it's against his nature. It's interesting how when he dreamed about Monica and pined after Rachel, it was mostly generic fantasies about doing cutesy couple things together and not about them specifically. And in the end he always chose/accepted friendship instead of romance, because to him friendship isn't a consolation prize but a true source of fullfilment.
also damn, I forgot how good that "I guess they weren't as good friends as we are" line was. It actually made me feel things.
Actually, I totally see this.
To my understanding, lithromantic is having romantic feelings but being indifferent as to whether they're reciprocated or not, which doesn't quite fit. And demiromantic would mean he could feel romance once in a while? Idk personally I don't see Joey as aromantic, just someone with different priorities. Maybe he's just one of those guys that has to be in his 40's or 50's before things click and he wants to settle down with someone. Or maybe he never does because while he seems to want that kind of intimacy and closeness sometimes, it doesn't seem like he's interested in the other aspects of a relationship (sex aside). It just seems like he occasionally gets a hankering for some close, cuddly affection with someone. I was like that as a teen, never had an interest in actually dating anyone, but I'd have cutesy little cliche fantasies about being all snuggly with them (funnily enough, often in a local coffee shop that had a big chair in it). It wasn't until I was in college that I ended up realizing I had fallen for a friend and now 8 years later, we're still together. Who knows what Joey's future has in store.
ULGROTHA yeah demi would work I think
While I was watching the video I totally thought about this, at least in the face of this analysis, the things that the narrator was saying totally fit under the aro spectrum, and how he likes "the idea of being in love" or being in love in theory, fits the definition of lithromantic, so 100% agree with you
Kat B OMG I LOVE YOUR THEORY
I used to think "OMG he's such a player", then I saw Barney Stinson. Joey looks really good by comparison.
Shauna Mother of Penguins yeah I mean Barney has a flipping playbook
Barney is a straight up psychopath. If you think about it... is enjoying sex even a priority to Barney? He actually does not make an impression of a person who enjoys sex, he sees it as a sport, always competing with... himself, mostly. Joey is much more relatable, he's just a man who enjoys simple things in life and is charming enough to get girls regularly.
I saw How I Met Your Mother BEFORE I saw F.R.I.E.N.D.S. so when I heard that "Joey is a player" and then finally saw his character in action, I was like, "yeeeeeeah, man, this is so damn tame compared to Barney."
HIMYM stole many ideas from FRIENDS so..
@@shakshi_ you just smcsnt sit through more than 3 seasons of himym if you started out with friends. That's my experience.
It's simple. We eat, we laugh, we feel stupid at the same time wise and of course we love. Joey is the kind of guy that improves all these aspects tenfold.
I love Joey:) He is truly a sweetheart. He proposed to both Phoebe and Rachel respectively when he taught they were pregnant and alone. That melted my heart to how pure his platonic love for his friends was.
right! now tell me if that is child play?
Out of all the friends. Phoebe is the most complex friend. She has a very sad history, and shes the most optimistic and whole hearted person
Adnan Amin phoebe is very complex, yes. But I feel like they shouldn’t have made her so self involved. It kinda pissed me off about her character. Just like Ross and his whining.
@@romeostruedude she literally forces her friends to change their decisions to fit her views. EX .. getting mad at Rachel for getting a massage, and shopping at a store she doesn't like. She is also a hypocrite. Turned out she worked at the place. She ended up buying stuff from the same store. She wore a fur. She ate meat at joey's expense. She basically has all these rules and codes she claims to value, but drops and picks up again depending on what she feels like doing.
I'd you think she's genuinely good then you fell for her many many lies.
@@farahshaheen7657 And Rachel's meanness, being unfair, inconsiderate, callous etc etc
But she doesn't miss a single opportunity to leverage her sad back-story to her advantage
Yeah., well, ....she actually was really mean to Chandler the entire tv show coz she thought he was lame and she always tried to get him and Monica fight or split up so......she's really vicious from time to time
But overall she is a nice person ))
I always felt Joey was the most selfless character on the show, he went above and beyond in his friendships and took his friends feelings into consideration before his own. Phoebe didn't want him to date Ursula, he broke up with Kathy for Chandler, he broke up with Janine because Monica and Chandler didn't like her, he put his feelings for Rachel aside because he didn't want to hurt Ross, when he started earning more money and wanted to get his own apartment he was made to feel guilty, when he was making his first movie (which he had waited years to get) he was preoccupied with officiating Monica and Chandler's wedding. What's really so unfair is that in the end he was the only one alone while the others moved on. Joey is someone that actually should have been more selfish and put himself first for a change.
Also, he was willing to marry Pheobe/Rachel when he thought they were pregnant out of wedlock.
Joey is the most attractive of the Friends to me. He's a good guy to his friends, and that's what got me. I actually thought he was really sweet when he was with Rachel. And yeah, attraction comes out of close friendship for me. The way Joey usually comes onto women? Ironically, that does not work for me.
i also enjoyed when joey was with rachel... is almost as if she was his first romantic love (and they truly are one of the closest friends)
I think the writers should have written to where the story was taking them instead of being stuck with Ross and Rachel.
After Joey's proposal is when they messed it up... I wish they had written it so that Rachel slowly realizes that she loves him and they (Joey and Rachel and Emma) go off the LA.. giving ross time to heal and Rachel realizing that she has actually got the true nice guy instead of the "nice guy/geek in love with popular girl trope".
It would have been a more satisfying ending.. and actually more believable in reality!
Sometimes we are mistaken in love, obsession..
And the most precious virtuous character (who upholds friendship above all else) is rewarded.
Fact: Joey's character was initially a jerk. But Mat Leblanc thought nobody would like to be a friend with a jerk. So they changed it to what we have seen on the show
What people don’t understand about Joey’s sleaziness with women is the he isn’t being childish about not being able to commit to a relationship, it’s because anytime he truly puts himself out there he gets hurt.
When he bring home a women and Rachel gets him to really try to get into a relationship with her she ends up saying that SHE isn’t looking for a a serious relationship.
When he falls for Kate ( the women from the play) she rejects him at first, then when they sleep together she doesn’t want to take it anywhere, finally after they truly fall for each other she leaves
When he falls for Rachel and tells Ross it makes him think that he hates him because he was still in love with her. He then tells her and she doesn’t feel the same way, then when they get together they just can’t become more than friends
So I don’t say Joey is being childishly rude for not getting into serious relationships, he just learns from his bad experiences
I totally agree with this.
Dont forget ursula
This is an interesting point, and to dig a little deeper it doesn’t necessarily contradict what The Take is getting at. Joey has a pattern of going for women in situations where the relationship is likely to fail from the very beginning.
He falls for Kate despite her already being in another relationship and initially being clear that she’s not interested in him. He falls for Ursula, Phoebe’s estranged sister, whom he knows Phoebe has years of unresolved tension with. He continues to pursue her despite knowing he would pick Phoebe over Ursula because his friendship with her means more than a potential romance with Ursula.
He does the same thing with Rachel and ends up prioritizing Ross’s feelings over his own towards Rachel multiple times. He pursues Janine despite his friends telling him it’s a bad idea to date a roommate. He dates Charlie who’s significantly more compatible with Ross, and Kathy who’s more compatible with Chandler.
While I agree that he does get hurt in most of the relationships he seriously pursues, I can’t help but wonder whether he subconsciously goes for women things are unlikely to work out with because he’s not ready for the responsibility and commitment a relationship requires.
YES! This is the one I was waiting for. Thank you screenprism for your continued thoughtful and insightful analysis regarding the show. It's always incredibly fun to watch.
the much awaited video is here ❤
No, thats the one with Phoebe xD
Can not agree more- I strive to have friends like Joey
Become that friend yourself.
" look at me! im chandler! could i BE wearing anymore clothes?"
gets me everytime😂
GODDAMN!! After understanding that Joey values his friends WAY more than getting in a relationship with a woman, the scene of him and Rachel deciding not to continue hurts harder now when you look at the way he says "I don't think they weren't as good friends as we are", He is saying it so heartbroken that you see he truly wants to be with Rachel but can't stand the idea of hurting a friend
Sometimes, I feel like I'm Joey.
Here are the reasons why:
- I sometimes don't share my food.
- Even though I am a teenager, I still watch kid's shows to this day.
- I sometimes suck at lying.
- I sometimes forget stuff.
- Whenever my friends have a conversation with each other and I don't understand what they are saying, I just roll with it and agree.
- I don't care if I would have a girlfriend or wife, the only thing that cares is the happiness I give to both my friends and family.
Same
hes so me 😫 i relate to him the most in the show
Bro, you're teenager, shut up
Great video, tho about him looking 'sleazy' in today's standards i don't entirely see it, it's pretty harmless in way that even new young viewers watching Friends now don't seem to notice that he's 'sleazy'. At least not like Barney from HIMYM. Joey is boyishly foolish and charming that u'd feel bad for him about his immaturity rather than offended.
Diana A I agree with you, he's even cute and clumsy as he tries so hard 😅
Diana A Yeah, I don't think so either. People get offended waay too much these days.
I had no Idea that someone could actually see Joey as a sleazy character. Very easily offended.
While there’s nothing wrong with casual sex, the women he slept with weren’t always aware it was casual. It’s dishonest to convince someone you care about them, sleep with them, and never call them back.
Not to mention he constantly objectifies women instead of seeing them as individuals. He’s a pig.
Ehhh It’s pretty clear he knows what he’s doing with his dates, he just doesn’t care. And sure, he cares about women who happen to be his friends/family, but so do most guys. I’m personally not a big fan of the “protect the women in your life but all others are fair game” way of thinking lol, it seems a bit hypocritical.
Agree to disagree, though.
Some of Joey's best words♥️
Hey, can I ask you something? In this, in this picture of you and your wife, is your wife Rachel?
That’s okay Ross maybe you need a new picture. Okay? It’s not gonna be what you thought, but no matter what there’s gonna be a brand new little baby, your baby. Who cares what the picture looks like?
They have a kid together, y'know. They’re like, they’re like a family, and if, I don’t know, there’s chance they could make that work, I know I wouldn’t want to be the guy who stood in the way of that.
What about her? They've only been going out for two weeks. Ross has been in love with you for like 10 years.
Look, Rach, Rach! I've been with my share of women. In fact, I've been with like a lot of people's share of women. The point is, I've never felt about anyone the way Ross felt about you.
Chandler: How can I not be upset? Okay? I finally fall in love with this fantastic woman and it turns out that she wanted you first!
Joey: Yeah for like a half an hour one night! Chandler, she wants you for the rest of her life! You’re so lucky! Look what I missed out on by not being there! Although you know what? It could never have worked like you guys did, ‘cause you guys are perfect for each other. Y’know, we look at you and-and we see you together and it just…it-it fits. Y’know? And you just know it’s gonna last forever.
Some of these are sooooo cheesy
People can barely recite scriptures ,but friends ,we can always quote with even the scenes playing in ur head
Ironically, Ross and Rachel had a kid together, and he DID become the guy who stood in the way of that
JOEY DOESN'T SHARE FOOD!!!!
Best line EVER
Thumbs up voting for next analysis (Phoebe the eccentric Friend) share us your point of view
faisal1979m I'd argue it'd be more along the lines of "the independent friend". She survived a very hard youth, prides herself on her not relying on anyone, doesn't commit to a relationship til Mike -well into her thirties-, lives alone most of the show and is the raw strength of the group - both physically and emotionally.
We also need to hear about her covert genius traits
Omg I can’t wait to see Phoebe’s episode, she’s the one who had the hardest life but she still managed to get over all the shit she has been through,also she has the kindest heart, and we can see that when she had her brother’s babies for him.
Phoebe episodes. CLICK what else is on
i never thought i'd cry watching a video about joey tribbiani being way too sweet for our world
I love these analysis so much! Makes you realise things you wouldn't normally notice when watching Friends, please do Phoebe!
Top 3 :
Grave of the fireflies
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away.
Truly the heart of friends. I love how chandler and monica treat him as their own child. He also gives the best advice when its necessary.
You forgot that Joey was the one who indirectly taught Rachel the “Western Europe” story, resulting in Emma’s conception and the solidification of Ross and Rachel’s bond.
Hey Susannah.
How u doin'?
Lord Reyne of Castemere And now the rains weep over his halls!!
we are doing just fine honey ..
*moisture intensifies*
YOU WIN
"I guess they weren't as good friends as we are."
This is both bitter and sweet.
he’s the sweetest bean, protect him at all costs
I actually really liked Joey and Rachel's thing. (Except when it became weird and awkward at the end)'
HAHAHAH
He's my favorite character along with Phoebe, SO glad you finally did this. Love your videos, you guys really put effort in every each one of them.
Clicked so fast I’ve been waiting for him❤️❤️❤️❤️
Im with Joey in the sharing food policy.
If you want some just ask and i can get it for you, but mine is mine.
I disagree with this! I actually love the fact that my girlfriend wants my food and I am more than happy to share.. then we can just order some more! or even better I cook for her!! anything she fancy!
@@saltalgilmour9745 you call that love?
@@edwardkumarkenway1875 yes i call that LOVE!!
@@saltalgilmour9745 did it hurt when your mommy had you castrated
Damn right
*_Joey = The Heart & Soul Of FRIENDS.. ♥️_*
*_He's The Best Of Them Of All.. ♥️_*
For real, this channel needs more subs, look at how they put their effort into every videos by editing and analysing as detail as possible each character in this sitcom
Glad that i have found this high quality channel
He's the most loyal friend too, he's the best, he was there for everyone even when they did him wrong I love him so much uwu
Heck yes ScreenPrism! Don't have time to watch this now but just leaving a comment saying thanks for the Friends videos and I'll give this a watch later and give you my thoughts on it.
Phoebe is left!
Amazing video as always.
Refreshing to see someone give a multi-dimensional peek at our beloved FRIENDS :)
Been waiting for this. Thank you so much, Screenprism!! :)
Your videos are just heartwarming. Lovingly put together, while never being afraid to take a stance when necessary. Love your series on tropes.
I'm not gonna lie, this made me tear up a bit
same!
lena rosetti me too
lena rosetti same, I love me some Joey
i would love to see a similar kind of series or something for how i met your mother. Everything is just so well written.
Joey is the most adorable character on the show. I'd love to have Joey as my own bestfriend.
I can't wait for Phoebe's video. She is wonderfully weird, unique but always looks at the bright side of things. There is so much of her life that not even the others in the group know about and despite all the challenges she had over the course of her life, unlike Chandler. She always stayed positive and tried her best to be her own person, never be someone she wasn't and didn't really apologized for who she is. I think she is the one who reminds us to do the stuff you love and to just be yourself.
Joey is a good example of platonic feelings being super important.
I have this strange optimistic feeling that you are saving phoebe as the best for last.
Grand finale with Phoebe hype!!!
These Friends character analyses are so good and insightful. Makes me want to rewatch Friends. right now now. I wonder if you'll do a Take on "Supernatural" after it ends next year. Grand stuff!
You didn't talk about family or his career, so I feel the video is not complete. Family is big deal for Joey, is funny how he is a womanizer when he had so manny sisters; and the episode where he learns about his dad lover was one when he have to face the adult world. In the other hand, in the episode where he learn how to sail a boat he explains that "Tribbianis quit!" and in the one we saw his tailor, we found his dad is so naive that he can't reconize the guy taked advance to touch their genitalia, so that will explain why Joey is so innocent. I know the show never talk about how Joey is a (probably) son (or grandson) of immigrants, but his dad being a blue collar worked, as Joey wanted the second inmigration generation version of the american dream (become famous and rich making something fun) is something to talk about it. Also Joey likes to act, but the fact you don't see him wanting to take courses (in one episode he show he does not even the basics, and in another ones he fake he knows music, how todance and other things) or even explaining why he loves the stage point out about how his career is just a part of his eternal "Joeyhood" life and nothing he is investing anything.
the eternal sunshine of the spotless Joeymind...
Finally! It's here. I'm watching FRIENDS on TBS right now. I can't wait for Phoebe because THAT'S gonna be crazy!
I never had friends as close as those in FRIEND but I think I might be a mix of Joey and Phoebe. I tend to be the ever-child-like one who values friendship aspect of a relationship more than romance or sex (i've never been in a relationship yet but i know this much), and I am a bit of an positive oddball but has an unexpected edge.
msk Me too!
This. I have been waiting for this!
I was binging your Friends series the whole day today.
Joey is Epicurean!!! He's not too ambitious, enjoys the simple pleasures of life like food, doesn't seek romantic relationship and the drama that stems from them, and keeps his friends close to him. So yeah, according to this philosophy, Joey would have already found happiness at the start of the series, that's why he doesn't need to change.
Rachel telling Joey "You're so pretty." 😂
I never clicked so fasttttt!!! I was waiting for this video for months❤
Joey is the sweetest, most loyal, and most childish friend you could ever ask for... And i honestly believe that girl in the hospital where Ben was born, was the one for Joey.
Idk why people keep telling Joey has never been in a long term relation. I keep remembering that episode where he has to buy a gift for Kathy and Chandler mentions a 3-year relationship he has been in. I know its the butt of a joke but still counts as a long term relationship.
Liked before even watching it bc of the title 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
I think that Joey is the one who really made Monica and Chandler possible and Phoebe kinda helped Ross & Rachel
Definitely!!
Wow this is a great video! you have some great points there and the scences from the show were a really good choice
Great, insightful video. Platonic love doesn't get enough appreciation.
Maybe
I would love it if you guys went in depth with the cast of Malcolm in the middle. There's plenty to cover with their entire family dynamic.
“The great loves of his life...”
Man that really hit me lol.
Y'all have such a way with words I've been binging your friends essays and honestly it's like therapudic
Chandler: Here’s the phone bill
Joey(seeing the paper): OH MY GOD
Chandler: That’s our phone number
😭😭😭I almost peed man LMAO
Amazing work on these video essays! Can't wait for you guys to upload Phoebe's 😊
I think I just teared up a little. Joey is that one friend I strive to have in my life. The one friend that is the first to step up in a crisis, the first one to defend me when I’m defenceless, the one that loves and lives and most importantly, teaches you how important it is to not share food!!
I would’ve loved Joey and Rachel to have ended up together, the girl JOEY would choose to fall in love with, given the type of PERSON (as a whole, not just concentrated on his past history w other women) he is, THAT GIRL WOULD HAVE BEEN THE LUCKIEST GIRL IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD and we know it from how much he has loved Rachel. Rachel was so lucky omg, but she couldn’t keep the best man she could have ever had.
Lastly, the little Joey room in Chandler and Monica’s little apartment. Could it BE any more emotional? Fuck I think I’m gonna cry 😭
He was such a good friend and great character
I don't think Joey being a player is inappropriate for today, it's not like he ever pushes consent boundaries. He's just living his best life. I love Joey so much 🥰
Excellent discussion. I want to make something about the show's structure in terms of the three couples in relation to centuries of Western drama/comedy:
Ross-Rachel as the structural moral center, Monica-Chandler as their parallel satellite and foil, and Phoebe-Joey as the comic servants, Greek chorus, and wise fools.
i'm 100% the Joey friend.
I know a lot of people say I CRIED even when they didn't. But I seriously did cry. Thank you so much for this video. I'm crying like a baby right now :'(
Life: What are you, a child?
Me: YES!
I've been watching the show since 1994 and watching this, it's made me see how good he really is... Him and Chandler were always my fav friendship but the way he loves them all is just beautiful
I love joey so much, the fact he was willing to marry Rachel because she was pregnant and he wanted the kid to have a father💕
I was waiting for this for a long time
Why have I always been so bothered by how much ice is in Rachel's water when Joey tells her he loves her? I still am! WHY??!
Diana Woods Don't worry I'm bothered by it too 😂😂😂
ClaraRose :3 *THANK* you!
Diana Woods Lmao no prob 😂😂😂
I waited for this for so long. Thank you so much ❤️
As a child hearted Joey is in good hands. As a friend everyone is in Joey's good hands.
Your analyses of series characters, whether Friends or Mad Men and more and where they are situated in the larger context of the work are simply majestic in their thematic intricacy! At a time when the status of humanities is under attack, The Take is one of the best battle cries for their preservation. :)
Joey do share food. He shares sandwich with Rachel on the boat. And I'm sure he shares his pizza somewhere in the series.
I cried from watching this video in midnight! how!!!! :0
Love ur vids more than i expected
amazing job as always!! waiting for phoebe now to close the circle
I'M LITERALLY SCREAMING I WAITED SO LOOONG FOR THIS VIDEOOOO
I admire him because he always picks his friends over his lover
Augh I'm so excited for the Joey Video- I've been waiting for it! :D
So, if Joey just imagined himself being in a serious relationship with people he considered friends (even if he had one night stands with lot of women), and even with that, he platonicized his friendships, so it didn't felt good to date them, it could mean that he's demiromantic.
Also, I think that is the one that loves himself (also I feel that Phoebe could fit this), and is happy with that. What I'm trying to say is that he thinks a relationship as person who want to be together with and not the "you're my half orange" thing, or being dependant of the other.